The Difference Between Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown

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  • @kanathekid7814
    @kanathekid7814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    Great video! The Jays are one of the best young duos in the league, i still feel like tatum is very passive and brown can be to aggressive. They both should just learn from each others styles in order to get better.

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      For sure bro! Thanks for the comment (:

    • @ImMeE19
      @ImMeE19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too*

    • @jehoshualewis2525
      @jehoshualewis2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is the best comment. Brown has go to moves and aggressiveness. Tatum plays basketball more freely and has learned to pass the ball. If they each do what the other does they would be Kobe and tmac on the same team

    • @David-kl7to
      @David-kl7to 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine a dragon ball fusion of them two lol, the undisputed goat.

    • @shleeb896
      @shleeb896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@David-kl7to jordan still better

  • @crippledepre9539
    @crippledepre9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +946

    Warriors were focusing way more on Tatum so brown was able to take advantage of that. Tatum is definitely better offensively, but not by much. I think towards the end of the year they finally found a way to really play off each other which is exciting.

    • @stoopconvo2924
      @stoopconvo2924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      I agree with everything but the Warriors focus. Wiggins is a good defender but Dray was on Brown. Dray is a better defender but Wiggins is a better size match.

    • @RemyKingKen
      @RemyKingKen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I used to think it they were offensively on a similar level but after consistently watching them both be inconsistent I’ve realized Tatum gets so much more defensive attention from opposing teams. It’s actually crazy how different the defensive pressure will change when Tatum gets the ball but that does have to do with his ball stopper like scoring style too

    • @RemyKingKen
      @RemyKingKen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@stoopconvo2924 brown was getting the same helpside pressure on drives or the same amount of double teams. Draymond was also guarding al horford early in the series and helping off heavy on Tatum. But the warriors were switching on any pin downs and the Celtics knew this so they were attacking Curry a lot of games with brown especially because the warriors left Curry on an island.

    • @crippledepre9539
      @crippledepre9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RemyKingKen 100%, but he has gotten a bit better at moving the ball if there’s nothing there. Still room to grow in that department of course.

    • @crippledepre9539
      @crippledepre9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stoopconvo2924 yeah but they would send help if Tatum drove and he wasn’t able to work through that. Also curry was after switched on JB creating easy driving lanes. I will say, Tatum was able to get some good looks in the mid range that he just bricked.

  • @Doobie_AdamsSSB
    @Doobie_AdamsSSB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I’m a Celtics fan and we don’t get anywhere without either one of them! Both of them have their games when they take over and win it, and both of them provide that steady floor of production (among other key players) that together has brought that team to where it is! 😤🍀

  • @Lol-xy6fz
    @Lol-xy6fz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I’ve personally got to watch Jaylen brown since my brother played with him since jaylen was in hs and I can say after watching him practice amongst peers like Tatum and other elite talent at top camps (like the USA Olympic team for instance) and he has always had the TALENT!! Simply put, Tatums skill set is more transitional to the nba than jaylen browns… at least for now… they’re both getting better and better and this is only the beginning of their greatness 😭 so just shut up, watch, and admire their game lol

  • @The2006Scaper
    @The2006Scaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Tatum has the length and strength advantage against bigger defenders vs Brown. Brown has top tier athleticism and a hot mid range in between game that Tatums still developing. They definitely balance each other out and it’s hard to pick one over the other

    • @macattack8658
      @macattack8658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Tatum not stronger than brown nor does he have a bigger wingspan. It's his height along with the wingspan that makes him imposing. Brown really 6'5 3/4, 6'6" with long arms that make him seem bigger and helps alot with his posters.

    • @Accensioni
      @Accensioni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@macattack8658 lmao I was going to say same. Tatum is no where as strong as Jalen brown

    • @blueboy1394
      @blueboy1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Definitely doesn’t have a strength advantage against brown he’s one of the strongest players in the league.

    • @The2006Scaper
      @The2006Scaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blueboy1394 Debatable, Tatum is HUGE

    • @unknownd5679
      @unknownd5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@The2006Scaper 😂yeah okay bro if you say so

  • @royalpalm_941
    @royalpalm_941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The thing that amazes me about Tatum is that HE’S ONLY 19!!!

  • @brandobuckz3857
    @brandobuckz3857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    just because jaylen was a worse player early on doesnt mean he's a harder worker, and JT has not plateaued, he's gotten better every year same as jaylen

    • @Bruh-do4dn
      @Bruh-do4dn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you seen both guys progression, you can see the distinct difference they have in terms of hard work and talent. JB worked harder, possibly not a crazy amount more, than JT. That’s how he was able to keep up despite the fact JT is way more talented with frame, athleticism, and offensive bag.

    • @ottorocket4456
      @ottorocket4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bruh-do4dn bro... Jaylen brown was a top 3 pick... He was expected to be an all star caliber player 😂😂

    • @zacharygiardina9042
      @zacharygiardina9042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottorocket4456 yeah but tatum came in and went punch for punch with bronbron and damn near won, like the video said jb came in and averaged like 7/2/1. I think bro got a point🤷‍♀️

    • @Bruh-do4dn
      @Bruh-do4dn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ottorocket4456 2017 draft class turned out more talented than 2016. Although both are 3rd, Jayson Tatum was arguably the best player in his draft class along with a much bigger ceiling and immediate impact. Jaylen took a few years to get in the groove. He seemed promising but he definitely worked hard to increase his 3 point % from less than 30 to 40. Also you have to think that the Celtics were a high seed team and had the Nets pick so they would have tried to pick someone to help with defense and shooting rather than a project.

    • @moisesalmonte8271
      @moisesalmonte8271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ottorocket4456 Is a MVP finals

  • @Land2.0
    @Land2.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like brown more than Tatum.. at this pace he’s gonna go way past what Tatum can do

  • @antrodcampbell5340
    @antrodcampbell5340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Brown was slowed by all the other stars Boston brought in.. Heyward kemba kyrie tatum.. he had to compete for minutes to develop tatum was given a starting spot ( not saying it wasn't deserved)

    • @sGzBugz
      @sGzBugz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but Jayson earned his spot on that same team and took the reins in the playoffs after Kyrie went down. it should be much harder for a 19 year old rookie compared to a Jaylen with a couple seasons under his belt and Jayson STILL became the guy. that speaks more to how good Tatum is. if Jaylen was that good he would have also shined even with the talent around him. also both were 3rd overall draft picks at the same age of 19. Jaylen had to wait longer for his starting spot simply bc he was a very raw prospect while Tatum was NBA ready from day 1. Jaylen wasnt slowed he was always a project pick for us

    • @antrodcampbell5340
      @antrodcampbell5340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sGzBugz one went to Duke the other went to cal they want tatum to be the guy. So it fit the narrative of brown was given the minutes not everyone else his rise would've been just as fast.

    • @antrodcampbell5340
      @antrodcampbell5340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sGzBugz same with smart but they kept bringing others in

  • @yupman5252
    @yupman5252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I honestly would take brown over Tatum. I think they’re even overall, but Brown seems to have more of that Dog and IT factor in him than Tatum

    • @AbsoleteAim
      @AbsoleteAim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree, Tatum already has multiple playoff moments where he's been the guy, including this year's playoffs. One poor Finals performance shouldn't gloss over that, the Cs in general were poor against an experienced Warriors team. I'd still take Tatum, but Brown is probably the best 2nd option you could have.

  • @antrodcampbell5340
    @antrodcampbell5340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And brown needs to become much better at the free throw line. I don't get it for such an elite mid range scorer he barely average 70% from the line.. unacceptable if he ever wants to be elite 😤 and he's my favorite player

  • @jeremynitta1449
    @jeremynitta1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Hear me out, okay? I’m not saying that they’re exactly like them, or ever will be, but Tatum and Brown remind me a lot of Lebron and D-Wade in Miami. You can make a strong case that Lebron/Tatum is the most talented player on his team, but the grit and effort of Wade/Brown make it very close on who is the best. Like Lebron and Wade, I think that Tatum is the best player talent wise, but Brown might be the guy most vital to the team winning

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nah I actually really like the comparison! Good take

    • @spiderninja57
      @spiderninja57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Idk if this is a good comparison bro, Lebron was a hustler just as much as dwade was, and was the best player on the team clear cut. Maybe in 2011, but for the rest of the time together there was never a series where d wade is outperforming Lebron and you have to question if they are on the same level.

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiderninja57 also valid bro

    • @jeremynitta1449
      @jeremynitta1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiderninja57 really? I feel pre-Big Three that Wade was right behind Lebron in the best player in the league convo, and visibly took a step back to defer to Lebron, who is certainly more talented but Wade’s work ethic and grit made him one of the best in the league. I feel it’s the same with Tatum and Brown, where Tatum is better from a talent standpoint, but like Wade, Brown made himself into that conversation of who is the best

    • @Accensioni
      @Accensioni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lebron was better than Wade lmao. Tatum and Brown you can’t really say who’s “better”. Lebron was simply Wade’s big bro

  • @NotCharAznable
    @NotCharAznable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even on 2k, Tatum stats overblown, Jaylen much scarier.

  • @saibotshawdow5090
    @saibotshawdow5090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I definitely think Tatum better. Brown isn’t the creator Tatum is. But he one of the best 2nd options in the league fs

    • @davepop8192
      @davepop8192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul George and kyrie are better 2nd options

  • @rayshaunharris9497
    @rayshaunharris9497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Both work hard tho… Jaylen is seen as the harder worker because he wasn’t as good in the beginning while Tatum started good but they BOTH want to be great you can tell they not relying on just Talent

  • @crodfilms
    @crodfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    🔥🔥 my favorite 25 and under duo. This year will be interesting to see what they do with some new team additions

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You already know fam 💯

    • @ttaron8053
      @ttaron8053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly give them time .. UNDER 25 . And made finals that speak don’t break up like OKC did fr learn from that

    • @dribbIegod
      @dribbIegod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tatum and Brown torn ACL

    • @antisocialsocialite3575
      @antisocialsocialite3575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dribbIegod hope ur Mycareer file gets corrupted bum

  • @itsallenwow
    @itsallenwow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think a lot of this is the narrative shifting because of bad Tatum looked in the finals.
    I’d still take tatum even though I accept that the biggest stage is where you want to be your best. But I’ll take the consistent higher scoring tatum provided for the entire season.
    Not to mention that if you want to focus on the finals. Draymond himself said the series flipped when they just started forcing Brown to his left. And from that point on in game 4 the series was pretty much done.
    For me it’s tatum moving forward. To Brown’s credit though I say he’s a more consistent player overall. But I expect that gap to narrow as they get older and more experienced

    • @francisco2525
      @francisco2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Draymond basically said the same thing about Tatum, the only difference is that with Brown the Warriors still couldn't stop Brown; however, they were able to stop Tatum because Tatum is not as athletic as Brown. Both need to improve their game when using their left hand.

  • @eul95
    @eul95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Although you didn’t approach this video as a retrospective, I appreciate the research and dedicated hrs it took to bring this video into fruition. I love the fact that you touched on certain topics that might be deemed “hot takes” … I love the content you create, not just as a Celtics fan, but as a fan of basketball. Thank you for this presentation and I wish you much success on future endeavors… thank you for sharing this form of art with us! 😌🙏🏾
    -ps I’m sure you probably won’t see this message, but if you do, know tht we love your videos and the content you have/will continue to make 😉👏🏾👏🏾

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks bro! Means a lot coming from you! Hope to see you on the next one

  • @Cnm-be1eg
    @Cnm-be1eg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s the rule!!

    • @kizplays9915
      @kizplays9915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thing with Tatum is he's talent plus he works hard. Give him a few more years

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's not forget Tatum and brown took a step back through the "kryie " era . Basically the I Lynn years they haven't made conference finals were the Kyrie years . Browns my favorite player, I get Tatum can get hit on the offensive side, but brown is a better leader I believe, brown is the only one who didn't back down from the warriors last year, Tatum wants to be buddies with everyone, brown is a little more old school minded. Doesn't hurt that Celtics treat Tatum like a golden boy from day one. I like how they both carry themselves but brown has a little more edge I believe. I'm Soo glad Celtics never traded for brown for KD or anyone else, Durant couldn't handle Boston media and expectations.

  • @versatillion15
    @versatillion15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the whole “Batman & Robin” conversation is a sneaky tactic to divide teammates so I hate when I see former players engaging in that

  • @ethandew1768
    @ethandew1768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I find that when most people say Jaylen ie as good as Tatum, they're not giving Jaylen his props, they're disrespecting Tatum

    • @magotheguy173
      @magotheguy173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally have only every said that to elevate Brown

    • @accountant3847
      @accountant3847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fact

  • @Randomperson-zt3il
    @Randomperson-zt3il 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m a Boston fan and I’m so happy about that JB didn’t get traded. I remember the rumours and I was scared lol

  • @curtiskellam5358
    @curtiskellam5358 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What I like is both players are still getting better. If they both can have a relatively injury-free careers, there is a least one championship in their future together.

  • @Nimr187
    @Nimr187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tatum didn't plateau, he genuinely had an injury, add that to two tough and physical series vs the Bucks and Heat, he was shot before reaching the Finals. And let's be honest, the Warriors are the Warriors for a reason.
    Both Tatum and Brown struggled with turnovers as they were tasked with being more aggressive and driving into the paint, be it for the
    Layup or to kick the ball out to the perimeter. This is a part of their game that they need to continue to develop and last year was part of that learning curve.
    Over the playoffs Brown was the better player, although both had their ups and down. The loss has made them hungrier and this year they've had their first full off-season in 3 years, hopefully we'll see the fruits of it this season.

  • @braedensteele3184
    @braedensteele3184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can tell your knowledge of the Boston Celtics if you think Brown is as good or better than Tatum. Tatum is quite a bit better and it is really not that close.

  • @nejineedlebana
    @nejineedlebana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's like comparing Gordon Hayward before injury & Jimmy Butler, it's close

  • @AndrewStefanik-r6c
    @AndrewStefanik-r6c ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dw I'm watching Tatum go 0-10 rn against the Sixers. Celtics in 7.

  • @RoccoGuyBoiThing
    @RoccoGuyBoiThing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you actually saying that someone that has been highly regarded as a top player his whole life, Including being a high draft pick, isn't as talented as his peers?? That's absurd.

  • @sebfinnigan1484
    @sebfinnigan1484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is Jayson Tatum, not Kobe. He should stop getting compared to him, its putting expectations to his name and his play represents that as he tries to resemble the Mamba. He just isn't and will never be that type of player. Which in my opinion, is why he was having so many turnovers in the first place

  • @siredwin770
    @siredwin770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tatum’s rookie year, in 2018, the Celtics were one of the deepest teams in the league and they were the 2nd seed. Cleveland was (infamously) the 4th seed that year.

  • @edouardjean5039
    @edouardjean5039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now people saying what I have been saying for a long time ,jalen brown is a much better player than jason tatum, the only thing I have with him driving the ball to the basketball with two three players circling he will loose the ball or miss
    That's where he need to adjust himself this year

  • @shadowwhisperer5480
    @shadowwhisperer5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was watching some of the basketball games like Celtics vs Heat. Jaylen Brown was the one hitting shots when it MATTERED. Anytime when the Celtics needed a bucket when it’s close or in the clutch.

  • @picassojulien899
    @picassojulien899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I would say the jays are the same level with Tatum being better only because Tatum has a better handle and a better passer. He also is just a better “face” for the Celtics then Jaylen is. Honestly they are both so young still so only time will tell who is better. They really just need to learn to play off each other.

    • @keyjugg
      @keyjugg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Brown a better finisher defender and leader

    • @jadensity847
      @jadensity847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@keyjuggbetter defender lol how many celtics games have u watched😭

    • @prolific1518
      @prolific1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder why the league wants to push the lightskin face over the dark skin one... Seems similar to Steph hype 🤔

    • @TheRealMRGG85
      @TheRealMRGG85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She doesn't really have a better handle they're both turnover prone they're both prone to dribble a ball off their foot while driving the ball they're the same player this different positions.

    • @youngvertt6608
      @youngvertt6608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jadensity847 Jaylen is a batter defender. Tatum just has size over him but Jaylen is a better Defender overall. Also I Saw at least 75+ games last season hbu?

  • @mactrilogy6030
    @mactrilogy6030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brown and Tatum are like Might Guy and Kakashi

  • @Trainingwithjwat
    @Trainingwithjwat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of people underrate Jayson Tatum’s defense, but as a Celtics fan, they work so well together and bounce off of each other. Without JT, there’s no JB. Without JB, there’s no JT!

  • @PhillAccio
    @PhillAccio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tatum is the FACE but we all know who the HEART is

  • @elhadji13
    @elhadji13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jaylen brown is the best player in the Celtics

  • @reynoodle
    @reynoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    noone calls the jays 7/11 lol check brooklyn for that duo

  • @sniperplayz6895
    @sniperplayz6895 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    JT and JB are both 🐐’s

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think getting to the championship may be a little bit of a curse. Their offense is very difficult most nights so I just think they should start incorporating more of an offensive flow. Let's say those shots aren't falling. Okay, now iso. The isos stop falling, maybe iso Brown instead of Tatum or vice-versa or go back to the set plays. Or trickle in isos around set plays to keep defense on its toes and the offense more involved. Idk I don't watch them a whole lot but it's a major criticism I hear.

    • @philmoe
      @philmoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely agree! The run was against the nets with 3 guys under 6'3 being attacked by switches. They beat Milwaukee w/o Middleton and beat the Heat who can barely score 90 at times. I hope that nba/celtics fans cool off with high expectations bc other teams got better as well. As far as Tatum it was the first real superstar moment in the playoffs and ppl thought they were seeing the best player in the league while hes more like top 12.

    • @scordatura9259
      @scordatura9259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's literally what they're doing last season

    • @SamUHells
      @SamUHells 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@philmoe nets were favored, bucks were favored, heat were favored. Stop making excuses. How come the 6’3 guards on the warriors didn’t fold on defense? They had a great run last year and got better this year. And no one was calling Tatum the best player in the league, every other game he was called overrated. This is a great example of revisionist history, you’re revising what happened in real life to fit your narrative. Ignorant

    • @alexsmith3598
      @alexsmith3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamUHells You're also revising that the Bucks were favored thinking that Middleton could come back by game 6. The Heat were favored because they were deep but they lost because they were unhealthy. The Celtics definitely got better in a lot of ways, but as far as I heard about their offense, it was still all iso and on occasion actually playing as a team during the season. From what I could tell, it was iso only in the playoffs and they were stagnant often. All people are saying is to temper expectations despite an incredible run and you're defensive for no reason. Just neck tattoo Celtics 2023 champs or whatever.

    • @SamUHells
      @SamUHells 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexsmith3598 nah I’m not being defensive I’m calling you out on your blatant inaccurate facts. Celtics offense only struggled in the finals. They were the number 1 defensive team and added a better backup guard than Pritchard. Now expectations are in question cause of ime udoka suspension, but they got better in every way in the off-season.

  • @darrylwallace2428
    @darrylwallace2428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alot of people love to just gas up Tatum, and make him out to be top 5 in the league. But in reality…he hasn’t really added anything new to his game. He still settles for tough shots, misses easy layups, and hangs his head if he doesn’t get bailed out with a call. I don’t think he’s better then Jaylen, and get sick of seeing people gloss over his flaws.

    • @TheDON914
      @TheDON914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FACTS lol he's not even top 15

  • @TheRealMRGG85
    @TheRealMRGG85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Browns rookie your numbers was never a skill issue it was a usage issue and if I remember correctly he still made one of the all rookie teams.

    • @J4htheartist
      @J4htheartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was still a skill issue because even when he got the minutes his shot was still meh and his bag of moves was nonexistent. He worked with tmac and some others summers after and now his offense has blossomed. The keys should go to him imo. He has the heart of a Celtic and he showed it in the last game. Tatum bailed while JB fought till the end. I like Tatum but doing shit like texting the late kobe and posting it is not only cringe, but a misrepresentation of Kobe. Kobe would have gave it his all in that last finals game. I’m sure he would approve of JB’s efforts

    • @TheRealMRGG85
      @TheRealMRGG85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@J4htheartist inconsistent minutes lead to inconsistent results. His role his minutes and his usage all fluctuated throughout his rookie season because he was on a very good team. It wasn't like Tatum's rookie year when injuries opened up a defined role.

    • @J4htheartist
      @J4htheartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRealMRGG85 Tatum was always going to get that spot. He came out of Duke already polished with a bag that a lot of players don’t get till 3 years down the road. Brad already had it in the plans to make him “that guy” once the season ended . IT was basically the only guy carrying our Celtics squad. Our team wasn’t that deep in terms of players getting plays called for them. If brown had the skill he would have been a bigger piece. Like I said his shot still was iffy and his handles were simply not there yet. Tatums rookie year was more stacked yet he was given the same touches as brown and minutes. Kyrie, Marcus Morris, Terry, and Al were all capable bucket getters at that time, yet Brad still found a way to get Tatum touches. Of course the Hayward injury aided in helping Tatum get minutes, but if anything more of haywards mins should have went to brown. That only tells me that from practice, Brad still saw that JB needed to show more improvement. I’m telling you JB worked his ass off multiple summers just to reach Tatums level. That right their is heart and dedication. Imo both him and Tatum are on the same level, but I rather have JB get the keys to the offense.

    • @TheRealMRGG85
      @TheRealMRGG85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@J4htheartistTatum was mostly 3 and D his first year wasn't much getting into his bag, but no he wasn't going to start over Gordon Hayward and Marcus Morris senior who was also injured to start that season. IT wasn't even on the team he got traded in the offseason. they where going to build around Kyrie Gordon Hayward and Al horford not Jason Tatum what are you talking about complete revisionist history. The real plan was to trade Jason Tatum and jaylen Brown for Anthony Davis.

    • @J4htheartist
      @J4htheartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRealMRGG85 Bro Jaylen brown was drafted in 2016, was he not. IT was on that team and he was the main go to scorer that could create for himself. JB averaged 17 mpg. What I’m saying is if his skill was up to par, he would have more usage on that 2016 team. If Tatum was drafted in 2016 instead of brown, Tatum is being used more plain and simple. Saying Tatum was only a 3 and D player coming into the league is laughable. Was his bag as deep as it is now? No, but he was doing far more moves compared to a rookie JB who was mainly a slashing defender. JB also struggled from the line his rookie year. Tatum started 80 games in his rookie year. Even when Marcus Morris was healthy he still got plenty minutes and the starting job. AD was off the table once the Celtics got rid of IT. AD’s camp made it known. As for the drafting of Tatum ainge saw Paul Pierce like potential in him and pulled the trigger. Even if Hayward was healthy Jayson Tatum is the 6th man without a doubt. The man finished 3rd in rookie of the year on a stacked team. Ainge and brad knew what Tatum could bring right away. Getting Hayward was simply them being greedy.

  • @averythompkins3682
    @averythompkins3682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOD loves you enough to send HIS only SON to save you and if you repent and turn from your sins and be baptized in THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT. ((if you haven't )

  • @Leharrio_Structure7414
    @Leharrio_Structure7414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We all know Brown is the one leadership ready and more like a Jordan and Tatum is Pippen but y’all to bias to admit it so am saying it loud 😃 JB THE MAN 🦹🏾‍♂️& 🦸🏽‍♂️JT the sidekick 💯

  • @veeisher
    @veeisher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jaylen Brown is BETTER BADDER and FACE of the CELTICS but love the Kidd and Play duo! Wouldn be right if we don’t have them both! 🎉

  • @yahboyd1361
    @yahboyd1361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I rly enjoyed the video bro love the deep dive into each player personally I like browns play style better but I think they have two top 20-30 players in the league and they can do great things in the league

  • @UltraHalo27
    @UltraHalo27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you’re talking about building legacy for a team. Don’t show LeBron in the Lakers jersey ever again. I’m a die hard Lakers fan grew up with Kobe and Pau duo. This man LeBron has a Mickey Mouse ring with the Lakers. Also it’s his only playoff appearance with them soo.. stop really

  • @joshwallace7734
    @joshwallace7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hard work beats talent. Jaylen Brown>Jayson Tatum. And I thought so before watching this video😂

  • @thetruetank6132
    @thetruetank6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact you only have 800 subscribers is CRIMINAL

  • @POINTS-OF-LIGHT
    @POINTS-OF-LIGHT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Underdog? JB been a prodigy most of his life😂...Only ppl that don't know his story or know B.B think that JB is less talented than JT.

  • @iqtv2137
    @iqtv2137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jaylen Brown is the best player on the present Boston Celtics Squad period and is more consistent and Jason Tatum is 1-B 2 Jaylen Browns 1-A stay tuned and you will 🙈 ( with both injury free)

  • @ecobean3440
    @ecobean3440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good vid! It seems like the better Jaylen Brown played, the further the C's went through the playoffs.

    • @lightstripes03
      @lightstripes03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good observation. The only time they got bounced in round 1 was when he didn't play.

  • @scj1668
    @scj1668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They’re the best duo in the NBA
    And in terms of the NBA finals if they focused on shutting down Jaylen Brown the Celtics win the championship obviously they’re going to try to stop Tatum

  • @TheRealMRGG85
    @TheRealMRGG85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you act like Jalen Brown isn't talented for the sake of TH-cam title you're a bit of a clown. to be honest with you jaylen Brown has more god-given talent then Jason Tatum. Tatum's better numbers can be attributed to a higher usage rate. Statistically speaking these guys are so similar to each other it's shocking. And the only real difference in their careers so far is that the media seems to have taken a liking to Jason Tatum more than they have to Brown because All-Star team selections NBA first team selections and all rookie team selections are voted on by the media. I'm a firm believer in Brown should have made the All-Star game over Jason Tatum last year because Jason Tatum got off to a horribly slow start to begin the season giving them a slightly above 500 record at the All-Star break if they played as good as they did post All-Star break pre All-Star break they would have had two All-Stars but since Jason Tatum started the year playing like s*** they only got one All-Star and the media bias towards Tatum is so evident. Whenever there's a toss up between the two of them the media will always choose Tatum.

  • @zp4790
    @zp4790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmaoo this bullsht why y’all have to compare these two anyway respect the fact they grew on a team together instead of being two starts joining each other . Tatum and brown are broth good in their own way the real reason these two look off at times is really because they never had a real point guard that can control the game with both of them on the court . That’s more of the reason why Tatum takes over more because his playmaking ability , Brown doesn’t reallly have that in his game he’s a pure scorer. Boston drafted two guys at #3 that was drafted to a team ready to win a chip . Jt was the 4th option JB was the 3rd once Kyrie started getting injuried And Hayward was out Tatum was instantly inserted in the lineup over brown mainly because rozier was there also . Once Kyrie was gone in the playoffs 2017 u could already tell Tatum and brown were ready but once Kyrie left and Hayward was gone that whole time Tatum was a better player than brown . He was more consistent and younger . Brown main issue was his consistency and injuries while Tatum was flourishing past him at tthat point . So from there on out Tatum haas. Been the main focus for soo many reasons , u can even google their stats compared to each other Tatum has an edged on about 90% stats . Annd I honestly hate comparing them but thee numbers never. Lied annd from watching them since both were drafted I’ve always said Tatum was better. I believe if they both were drafted without a player like Kyrie and Hayward they would’ve had big rookie seasons and they would easily would’ve been the best duo . Instead of comparing enjoy them . It’s almost like pg and Kawhi staying on tthe same teams when they got drafted . It’s no 1 option , they both benefit each other. If anything a playingmaking defensive pg is what’s needed thatlll help them both get in better. Spots and also cut their TOs down and maybe a vet that could be their ear during deep playoff runs. This finals run was a plus imo Becus they lost to GS not somee bums or another inexperience team so it was more of a lesson than lost that’ll help this team and them both become better leaders and soon to be champions . I do believe Tatum ceiling is higher as an individual player but Brown is definitely a guy who wants to win for team who can bee apart of any championship team any day . But stop the comparing enjoy them it’s bout their rime

  • @Leharrio_Structure7414
    @Leharrio_Structure7414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They Tryna force an introvert JT to be the Main man when it’s really JB THE CHOSEN ONE ☝🏽

  • @chasinda4th502
    @chasinda4th502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I just saw one flaw last playoffs one that duo, tatum has to become a better playmaker & develop a better off ball game whether it’s a catch & shooting or slashing to the basket he needs to learn how to backtrack when his game just don’t naturally flow to him that A Wiggins putting him in an island back to back to back and him still going to it everytime was a huge set up for failure & boston did right with adding brogdon they need a Ricky Rubio kind of player tho, a walking 5-7 assist kind of guy who can drop that middy with ease. That duo needs a good 3 more runs at a chip before they are split if failure.

  • @kdem2977
    @kdem2977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only casual fans or those trying to sell a show are saying this. Tatum was getting boxed by 3 players at all times he was on the court. Brown had complete freedom to go 1 v 1. The second Warriors took that defense and did it to Brown we saw Tatum go off. When reversed Brown didn’t go off enough to force the Warriors out of that defense. They knew Brown wouldn’t carry them how Tatum would.
    Go watch how the Warriors would go on runs when Brown was expected to carry the Celtics as Tatum rested. The Celtics had to shorten Tatum’s rest minutes. Anyone knowing these facts and still making this point need to look in the mirror to see what a hater looks like

  • @prolific1518
    @prolific1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brown>Tatum. Tatum gets that lightskin/Kobe hype

  • @eliyelabera8774
    @eliyelabera8774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get trying to give Brown his love but Tatum is better. I mean Tatum is in discussion for top 10 and brown is in the discussion for top 20ish. I know he choked in the finals but up to that point Tatum is statistically better then brown in almost every area. There’s a reason the Celtics want him to be the number one option.

  • @Austin-cr5zo
    @Austin-cr5zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tatum isn’t 6 overalls higher than Jaylen brown I’m js

  • @MarcAndrewII
    @MarcAndrewII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People forget Tatum be having 60 point games (only legends do that) and dominated KD

  • @Gpeagasus246
    @Gpeagasus246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was an interesting topic but i can not finish it. you have the same 30 second beat on repeat for the whole video, your script sounds like you're reading straight from wikipedia, and you can't even edit out slip ups when talking.
    not trynna be a hater, you def got room to improve tho

  • @theoallan3010
    @theoallan3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okay my take on this is jason is a better player in almost every way. scoring, defense, playmaking. all of them go to jason. i also think jason still has untapped potential. jaylen on the other hand i think is pretty much capped out, and the only way he'll improve more in making improved reads. however jaylens mentality is superior to jaysons. i agree that jayson has become complacent and i think he needs to change that if boston are ever going to win a chip with these two..

  • @ddchoppa8803
    @ddchoppa8803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ain’t watch the video yet but based on the thumbnail cut it out. Jayson Tatum works hard as well you can see it translate to his game and he’s definitely better than jaylen brown. Jaylen brown is really good also though.

  • @AMGTT
    @AMGTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brown honestly might be the better talent because he is athletically gifted he is quicker faster more agility jumps higher than Tatum

  • @Tsuny999
    @Tsuny999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Duo in the game and will be for a long time

  • @D1Kwazy
    @D1Kwazy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    40 inch vertical ain't talent

  • @ltmodestdragon1687
    @ltmodestdragon1687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jayson Tatum would be more better if when he took layups he would not try and draw a foul and jus use his strength to get past his defender ave if he becomes a better playmaker then that’s when him and jaylen will compliment each other better

  • @sqdagreat419
    @sqdagreat419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video... i honestly feel like jalen is jealous of Tatum... just by his body language n they have power struggles on the court ... honestly think they can be even more dynamic than they already have been if they get their relationship stronger...its times ive seen jt look jalen off too...but u can almost see this its my turn thing goin on amongst each other too...but great video...i think jalen is better at driving to the cup n i think jt is a better shooter

  • @jones1926
    @jones1926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All last year they were saying the east was better than the west. Bucks, Celtics, overrated, and Nets fell apart. No one thought the sixers would take it.

  • @frankwoods6821
    @frankwoods6821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro what is the painting at the beginning of video? To me it's so peaceful and beautiful, do you have the name of it?

  • @djsneed98
    @djsneed98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jaylen brown was the number 2 player in his class behind Ben Simmons he’s always had talent he’s always been as good as he is it’s just these past couple years he has had opportunity

  • @ManoharRajanlalala
    @ManoharRajanlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both are good. Just not better than the Warriors and their amazing teamwork led by Chef Curry 🍛

  • @kontinued5823
    @kontinued5823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, but I actually feel like both JT and JB are stars that require another star to win a chip because of their play styles. Obviously, JT without brown is taking the Celtics to a 5ish seed, and, as seen in the finals, brown without JT isn’t good enough against the best of the best. The teams that they’re on need them and another almost more than all star caliber player to reach the promised land, and with JT not playing at that level in the finals, Brown had to put the team on his back against one of the best players/teams of all time

  • @AlwysLouisiana
    @AlwysLouisiana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robert Williams is all ima say 🥶

  • @christopherreid-wn3tk
    @christopherreid-wn3tk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dunking on LeBron let him no I'm up next u see me recognize u washed up its my time pass the crown!u had it long enough it's business nothing personal

  • @Fernandesci
    @Fernandesci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nigga if you are going to put background music make sure your mic is good b

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao my fault bro i'm going to up the voice volume next time

  • @CS-np2oo
    @CS-np2oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I'm saying is people be SLEEPING on JB.

  • @Kupalkababoss24
    @Kupalkababoss24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Celtics bullshit franchise traded IT and trying to trade JB

  • @choochoo7099
    @choochoo7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JB do a lot more dirty work guards the better player more than JT… whoever made the video definitely a JT fan

  • @Chrism7178
    @Chrism7178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tatum has a more impactful presence and gravity than Brown .

  • @nivak11
    @nivak11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Either Mix your voice louder or lose the background music

  • @mewchuking8639
    @mewchuking8639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tatum is more skilled brown is a slightly better defender. Tatum struggles with decision making and brown has an awful left hand for an NBA player

  • @OGSVN
    @OGSVN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this might be the most casual thumbnail i’ve ever seen. there’s no way you’ve ever been a hooper.

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's just to get you to click on the video bro. You're entitled to your opinion, I feel like I could work you in 1's though

    • @OGSVN
      @OGSVN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@underdogbase dope sells itself bro. let ya product speak for itself.
      &you’re entitled to your opinion too 😂

  • @christian0491
    @christian0491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jayson do everything better there’s like 20 players between them in rankings

  • @itsgreg8198
    @itsgreg8198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tatum is better on offense and defense this isnt even a debut, trying to push that Brown is better because he preformed better 1 series is insane, and i would argue Brown should've played better because he barely face the strong side of the defense

  • @greatness7619
    @greatness7619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just by the thumbnail you got it.That’s exactly the way to describe them

  • @SULLY937
    @SULLY937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i hadda build a team round Tatum or Brown am picking Tatum every time

  • @botyyboy9646
    @botyyboy9646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Tatum is the better. I think that it’s not a Batman and robin but like Batman and Batman you can switch them out, their as good as each other to me.

  • @danielh3303
    @danielh3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tatum is just a taller Brown, they pretty much have the same skillset and moves, Jaylen is better at finishing where JT is a better shooting

    • @brandobuckz3857
      @brandobuckz3857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jt is slightly better at just about everything aside from finishing and much better at playmaking

    • @danielh3303
      @danielh3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandobuckz3857 i didnt mean same exact level at everything but yeah Tatum is the better overall player but Jaylen could very well become better, we have no clue.

  • @marksoto5423
    @marksoto5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only knock on Jaylen is that he's got terrible hands and mediocre ball handling.

  • @vonnypooh8564
    @vonnypooh8564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Agenda being pushed here is crazy, Both were top ranked players coming out of high school even though Tatum was better, Both went 3rd overall even though Tatum was better in college as well, Tatum doesn’t get credit for leading the Celtics as a rookie after Kai was injured because they were the number 1 seed the year before but Jaylen “immediately contributed to winning” his rookie year even though it was the IT show the whole year and Tatum’s numbers were so much better, And every year Tatum been in the league he’s been better than Jaylen, Tatum had a bad finals while playing through injury and receiving 5x the amount of attention jaylen receives. Questioning his work ethic and dog is crazy because he has some bad moments that are only publicized because he is a superstar, nobody ever talks about when Jaylen disappears yet you want ppl to believe that this comparison is close, it isn’t and hasn’t been for 3 years now

    • @ytoowbbb8997
      @ytoowbbb8997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not reading all that

  • @easyyeye
    @easyyeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol ngl Brown carried the Celtics thru the playoffs

  • @keepingupwithlamarjackson5831
    @keepingupwithlamarjackson5831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not a big difference Tatum was just the chosen one he was the higher draft pick. But JB really better

    • @hokagegod8790
      @hokagegod8790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were both drafted wit the 3rd pick bro

    • @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch
      @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They are both pretty similar and are similarly inconsistent.
      Tatum seems to have higher highs and lower lows.

    • @verdict4048
      @verdict4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tatums top 8 in every advanced metric available. Brown falls around 30th, Tatums made two all nba teams Browns made zero.
      Tatums better in absolutely every way.

    • @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch
      @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@verdict4048
      He is not TOP 8 in every advanced metric available.
      Have you no idea how broad a statement is when you include “EVERY” in it?

    • @verdict4048
      @verdict4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch BPM, PIPM, RAPTOR, LEBRON, TPA etc all top 8 or 12 at absolute worst. Cope

  • @watermelonman8430
    @watermelonman8430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, I like your video but you gotta turn up your mic volume compared to the music.

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very good video, I just feel like the background music could be dropped a tick or 2. It's actually very loud. Especially the snaps. Lol

    • @underdogbase
      @underdogbase  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely will do next time! Still learning bro my b lol

  • @tdkshelsupreme8390
    @tdkshelsupreme8390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jaylen Brown for me!!! But I’m happy they are both on my favorite team an hope they stay here long term even career.

  • @commentacc765
    @commentacc765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never thought I’d see the day were skip Bayless agrees with someone