Yes! Please make more videos like this! Heck, i'd love to see the following covered if you don't mind recommendations: * Who is the deadlier killer with a gun- Golgo 13 or Deadshot? * Would the Guyver control metal be unstoppable in the Dragon Ball Universe? * Unicron vs Galactus ( why not?) *Aptom vs Cell ( who has the better absorbsion Abilities?)
The difference between this and the Batman-Kira case is that the Joker isn't really doing anything to prevent L from figuring out his real identity. This is less of a "L vs Joker" and more L being curious about something. Learning his identity isn't really all that relevant to stopping him from doing crimes. Imagine L going "I finally know who Joker is", and then the Joker blows up a hospital anyway.
Only way it can be considered a loss or win is if the joker actually agree to the terms. L has to actually announce his intentions so that the joker does what he does. otherwise the joker will just play anything off because from an outsiders point of view it's just L being interested in the red hood.
Well, L has to figure out the identity AND catch/stop him. And he could only do that for 1/3 anyway. But unlike Batman, I don't think L would be like, "I know his identity but it doesn't matter." He'd be like, "I figured out 1/3. Execute that one." Which is still a loss, but 1 less Joker is a win for Gotham and all of DC's Earth, really. Sometimes even beyond Earth lol.
i mean joker would probably just straight up kill L (or torture him) if we are being honest like joker would find it entertaining that L is trying to find him but probably get bored and just blow him up (and by him i mean the city he is currently in)
@@diveblock2058 It's really really hard to imagine that happening considering how cautious and anonymous L is. There is no insensitive for L to reveal himself in any way as it would not get him anywhere close to finding out the Joker's identity because L would most likely without much hesitation execute the Joker after achieving that. This match just doesn't make much sense to me. L does not need to get too close to the joker to find that out and therefore the Joker would have no real reason to gun for him.
The recent Gordon comic reminded me that Joker isn't just some crazy dude. He's ingenious and meticulous. All the insane things he does has a purpose, but the only person who truely knows that purpose is Joker.
As always with comics that depends on the writers, in recent times he is mostly just a crazy dude with tons of power, the thing about joker is that he was never ment to challenge batman's mind henis there to challenge his morals, he is the chaos to batman's law. The one that is rightfully smart as batman is the riddler, when the writers don't make him into just a joke from the adam west era he is as smart or maybe smarter than batman, while batman is only able to defeat him thinking outside the box
My theory is that the Joker's super sanity allows him to realize that the entire existence of his multiverse depends on him being the Joker. Without him and his crazy antics, the Batman series would go broke, so it doesn't matter how many lives he ruins when doing nothing ruins everything.
The Court of Owls, League of Assassins, Joker and Bane at minimum have a strong chance, considering the 4 groups/individuals have outsmarted Batman on multiple occasions. Most others have no hope. Certain rogues may not count as "human" for the purpose of being killed by the book, like Poison Ivy or Clayface, due to their altered biology. In those cases Kira may simply be shit-out-of-luck. But normals like Crane, Cobblepot and Nigma? Dead instantly.
@@psychicsidekick4198 To be fair, I think Movie Light managed to orchestrate a death such that the person killed someone else? So it’s possible he could maybe get another person to kill Ivy for him if Ivy doesn’t count as human for the purposes of the death note.
If you mean literally all, then no. Like yeah the Penguin and all the mobsters are easy, they have their names. But Joker? Or even the Court of Owls. It's nye-impossible
L finding out Joker's identity means absolutely nothing. He would hear it announced and then do what Aaron Sanchez said and just blow up a hospital to prove it means nothing. That would be such a Joker thing to do. He'd also say something like "figuring out the punchline means nothing when you don't have *delivery*" before he blows up the maternal ward of a hospital.
Well when Batman threatened to tell joker his identity making him freak out and then he threw himself off a cliff rather then know the truth but other’s versions of the joker might not care
@@StarSteve681 True. I guess it does depend. Still, I think Joker making a "delivery" joke and then blowing up a maternity ward of a hospital would be an moment in this hypothetical battle.
Batman once said about the joker’s identity “I knew who he was Alfred, from the day we met, he has a kid and wife still living, but his backstory doesn’t matter the man he is now is completely different from what he was”
The problem with these videos Batman and Joker live in paranormal world with God's, Alien's, Demon etc. Let me explain Batman on being World Greatest Detective is a master of 127 martial art's being the best H2H combatant basically Brawn and Brain combined and Joker just like Batman has a genius level intelligence and has his own chaotic fighting style in other words their conflict is both action packed and heavy dilagoue between ideology's .That's why most people can collab with them and do crossover's and that's why someone like Johan, Kira or L will never crossover beacuse they are not that speacial.
@@Resident4Island Kira's main strength is being able to kill literally anyone with a soul if he has their face and name. However once his method of killing is known, it becomes much easier to defend against.
Batman would understand the rules of Light and L are high end Detective work game theory, and threats of death don't count if the game strategy dictates something else would happen if the other guy is smart. Batman demands Light to kill the Joker. If he doesn't do it, he's a bad person and a hypocrite. If he does do it, it proves he's Kira. Or Batman approves of L asking if he can put Light on the spot with this high pressure question. Making Light interact with the Joker would bring evidence that Light is Kira out faster. Light is more dangerous and evil than the Joker. And Batman is willing to gamble Joker's life to catch Kira. Kira gets the same kind of exceptional treatment Joker does to a level beyond the Joker gets. L and Batman put together easily take down Light with no win scenarios.
batman knows the jokers real name and knows where joker lives, watches over the jokers son and wifes house. Batman has known about jokers personal life for years. He just doesnt take action sadly
@@realme-tq4cq Thats not Jokers current personal life but his OLD life Usually he doesnt know where Joker is. Joker has always been able to challenge Batmans intellect
I think a more interesting question to answer in the future could be, “Could L Catch Batman?” And have the game be around L trying to solve Batman’s true identity, something I think he’d probably take interest in
I feel like L would work out that it's Bruce in 3 seconds just with simple logic. Clearly someone who loves Gotham and has access to virtually unlimited funds and technology. bruce Wayne. Next.
Carefree drunken idiot Bruce Wayne? Batman? Ridiculous. Have you ever seen that rich boy lift? At most he’s privately funding Batman. Maybe a team of them. Now Lex Luthor? That’s your guy. Seriously though people only think it’s easy to figure out because there’re not in the world of the story. At most he’s a suspect.
Another thing to note, though it might not be too important, Joker is probably aware of the fact he’s in a comic book. He’s referenced the reader a few times, referenced past crossovers nobody else remembers, and even turned the page of a comic he was in.
that’s not 100% confirmed that’s just a theory i believe that it probably true for a few versions of the joker but not every joker i’ve seen the imaginary axis too
@@asura3229 lmao you joker fanboys are so dumb. It's because of dumb writing joker could do this. Joker is a mere human. L has history of dealing with worse than joker like Beyond Birthday. L will take necessary precautions and he isn't dumb enough to send joker back to Arkham lol.
I don't think he'd kill him, that'd be too boring. Joker would break L's mind and shatter his soul. Joker, out of pure amusement and boredom, would go out of his way to prove to L that he is nothing, just like everyone else. That all his little detective games that he plays is all one massive joke. Then he'd leave him to rot within his own self-created madness while the Joker goes off to chase the next shinny car.
Joker’s not exactly covering his tracks but he would probably want L to find him only to kidnap and torture him. EDIT: yikes looks like I started a war with the L fans lol
L would obviously know that. Do you think L is stupid lmao, Why do you think seth made this video in the first place? It's because he is a detective that almost rivals batman in intelligence.
Having L execute joker I actually see as the ultimate loss for joker it isn't a big scary vigilante who stops joker to keep people safe it's just a childish detective who finds solving cases interesting
Yup. Joker was terrified in one of the shows when the situation came up where he thought an average guy could kill him with a bomb. He wants a real flashy ending not some nobody that he himself has no interest in.
I assumed L’s win condition is more prove the Joker is guilty in the judicial system, not so much revealing his identity. He needed Light’s identity to prove he was a serial killer not strictly for the name. Same thing with BB, he wanted to prove BB’s guilt and arrest him, not specifically getting his name.
@@Michael-sb8jfin maximum security in a mental asylum where there not meant to kill him plus joker has a reason to go after batman he doesn't have the same thinh towards L as L wouldn't care to go back after joker
The fact is, even in the Killing Joke, Joker himself admits that his backstory might not be true. He likes it to be different every time. Some parts of it might be true but some are mixed up. The fact that after all these years even the readers don't know what his actual backstory is, it's kinda terrifying.
@@cryamistellimek9184 yeah I feel you, joker worked best as a small scale villain not with over complicated plots to destroy gotham but being there to mess up specific people, before the modern age joker the tought of joker having a backstory wasn't even important he either was a mafioso with clown makeup or a crazy dude doing petty crimes being batman's archnemesis is modern era stuff, when the righters made joker and batman needing each other existance is sickening it implies that batman is not doing super hero stuff to fix the city and is just doing it as a petty game with joker
Yeah, it's kinda silly treating this specific origin as canon and then wondering why no one figured it out. It's easy because you're falling into the trap of taking the Joker on his word. In all likelihood he didn't even have "one bad day", he just had a degenerative neurological disorder that lead him to go mad over time, then he retroactively applied a twisted philosophy to justify his behaviour until he was so far gone that he didn't need it, by which point he was already obsessed with demonstrating it. Even if he was confident in what his backstory is, he's not a reliable narrator, especially after how often he's gone to Arkham Asylum (whose founder electrocuted his first patient during shock therapy, was home to Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, and the second Black Mask during their prior careers in psychology, and is notorious for having doctors experiment on the patients).
@@cryamistellimek9184 and that's exactly why it's great. The joker not having a true origin means the possibilities of stories that can be told with him are endless.
So L practically has a chance on beating the joker if he finds out his original identity and arrest him before he becomes insane but if he fails the game is already over and joker would instantly win. That’s cool.😺
Batman knows Joker's real identity and has been keeping his ex wife and son in witness protection in Alaska. TOok him a week to find it out (Also Bruce Told the jOker who HE WAS too at that time). I'm pretty sure L could find the same information just as fast if not faster given he doesn't spend most of his nights jumping off of rooftops.
This was never said in the video...L would still be able to find out the joker's identity as long as he gets to working before the work files are erased. the files weren't erased as soon as the joker fell, the files still existed at the point of the joker falling it's simply only a matter of time before the files do happen to get erased.
Right, but that's after Joker really got going. Basically, if L got interested in Joker during the Clown Prince Of Crime's first year, L could probably win. (Assuming the files existed for about a year. We aren't told exactly when they're deleted, so let's just say a year, because the government/EPA move slow irl) After that? Pretty much instant loss. Also, he can only figure out 1/3 Joker's identities. But assuming Red Hood/Killing Joke Joker is the 1st Joker (which I don't think he is but let's pretend for a second), then L can win in Year 1 and the other 2 Jokers possibly never exist. However, if I remember right, there's basically classic-Silver Age Joker, from the 60s and stuff, who is canonically the 1st Joker. Pretty sure Killing Joke Joker is then the 2nd. Because I think he's from the more modern era. Not even sure which is the 3rd? I'm gonna guess the one who cut his face off? Seems different enough from KJ Joker to be a 3rd lol. But who knows? They're all crazy.
Just put an add in the newspaper "Looking for insane clown with murderous tendencies and interest in a good laugh" Next day the Joker stands at the door.
Joker would just fuck with Light effortlessly. Joker, as wicked as he seems, is actually INCREDIBLY calculated and I'd argue, WAY MORE STABLE than Light, emotionally at least. Joker's ridiculously cunning and intelligent, you never quite know what he's about, meanwhile if not observed with a one sided eye like Light's father or his friends in the task force, Light's lies are quite obvious and are always pretty cheesy
I'm sure L can catch him but that's when Joker game starts , if L commits the error of restrain him like he did with Kira and Misa he's pretty much done. L always looked superior to Kira until he did something unpredictable like losing his memories at purpose, that's L weakness and one of Joker best feats, being unpredictable.
@@shastacat9632 It's true, it is about winning. In the end whatever happens the Joker basically wins, he wants to be caught meaning he would win in the end no matter what L does.
Stopping the Joker case is less about figuring out his identity. And more about finding out which warehouse he's using as a base. And capturing him before he can cause more terror
No. The Joker's greatest asset isn't his intelligence, it's his judge of character. He sees right through every single person immediately. Makes him so much more dangerous. Keep in mind - L's greatest strength is his powers of deduction. You can't deduce much from the Joker - he's truly bananas.
Catch Joker? Yes maybe but, stopping him is a completely different debate especially considering Batman has stated the only person who knows what Joker is doing is the Joker and what makes him dangerous is just how unpredictable he is especially considering just how insane he is. He also famously says he’s a man without a plan but he is constantly “planning” sometimes ahead of Batman due to his unpredictability, he’s insane but smart and knows what he’s doing , only he knows. L is smart but due to Jokers sheer insanity I’d say he’d get caught but break out whenever he wants or just bully L his whole career.
@@grandcanyon-fu9ztJoker beats L 9/10 times and it’s bullying, again only Joker knows what he’s doing it doesn’t matter how far ahead L thinks he is, Joker is gonna be ahead. He’s insane but a very methodical thinker don’t underestimate his intelligence just cause he’s insane.
@@justsomebody5450 agreed even if he did I feel like they’d laugh at him or underestimate him at first which would give Joker the automatic win. As soon as you let your guard down against Joker your fucked, superman did it and injustice happened lmao.
I like the idea a young Batman attempts to stop the red hood but is killed and the reveal of Billionaire Bruce Wayne being a vigilante and being killed by another costumed foe / gang Interests L enough to become involved but he’s too late to stop Red hood before becoming the Joker. Great vid!
@@ThefifthBishopofGord your wrong about that the joker is way too smart for L but at the end he just wants to have fun if L announces these rules it more than likely joker will accept and play by them unless he wants to torture L by killing someone close to him in order to make him stronger
@@sss_7399 Yeah, I honestly barely know anything about either characters and that does seem like something the Joker from what I know. Like I have literally not read or seen a single panel of death note before this video but I know a slight bit more since I have actually a seen panels with the joker in them
I mean what would revealing his identity really do like “the joker is John Doe now we can send people out to go catch him” like everyone’s been trying to catch him regardless revealing his true identity doesn’t change the goal or approach at all and doesn’t even really provide any useful info.
L is skilled at analyzing calculated strategy, whereas the Joker is pure unpredictable chaos. When someone’s moves aren’t traceable, they become almost impossible to beat.
the joker isnt just pure chaos though. he does do things with a purpose. he wants to make the world laugh like he does. he wants to teach people lessons in despair and madness. that life is chaos and a giant joke of suffering and tragedy. you might not be able to predict his moves easily but baiting a trap would be easy.
Yes we're back with deathnote omg. Deathnote is such a good show and this is like the best possible follow up to your "could batman catch kira" and thank you so much
Very dangerous, L is already an amazing detective considering how he stopped World War 3 from happening at the age of 8. So if Batman trained him, L will probably have no such weaknesses or get an unfair disadvantage at all and would catch BB or Kira already. Batman would be a key to helping L to bring out his fullest potential as a detective.
If Light does exists in the DC Universe, then The Riddler has finally found a worthy opponent, since both of them are narcissistic geniuses who is obsessed with finding out their identities through names.
The only advantage L has up on Batman is that if L gets a hold of Joker he would have no qualms about killing him. If he deduced that Joker is too big a threat to keep alive, which I’m sure L would figure out, he’d have him killed immediately.
What exactly are they trying to do? If this is L versus Batman in who can figure out each other's identity, L stomps 10/10 If it's who can catch each other first, Batman stomps 10/10
Making the victory condition arresting the joker, is weighing this heavily in lights favor. The joker regularly escapes from the police and allows himself to be caught very consistently.
Exactly, the only win condition would be to arrest him, sentence him to death and actually carrying out the sentence. That is of course if L doesn't care about proving the joker's ideology by killing him and doesn't want to rehabilitate him like batman
Yeah, but the police in DC is so embarrassingly incompetent lol. Joker usually just turns himself in and pleads for insanity despite that making no sense. If L caught Joker in his early days, he would've executed him right there and then
L would whip Gotham's law enforcement into shape with terrifying efficiency, assuming he didn't just pull the national agencies into his game first. There wouldn't be any 'incompetent official somehow lets the Joker out' for the Joker to abuse, L would seal the holes in his net first, before casting it. Likely through illegal means, depending on how much he wants to win the game.
That plot point about L having to not send a helicopter after Joker when he jumped into the river, like... why would L even be interested in this RANDOM ASS robery in the first place? I'd guess it would be just the police trying to catch the Joker, causing him to jump into the river
The Jokers' strength is his unpredictability. Which is interesting since L seems to revel in asymmetrical warfare. The main issue is that the L has morals and the Joker doesn't, which will make life difficult for L.
I just keep rewatching Death Note. It’s short enough to binge over and over, like Invincible, and it’s just so good. While people complain about the second arc, and it does indeed have issues, it is still great (especially the soundtrack, if you listen to the anime while gaming like I do). So I love to see any videos like this that goes into a more realistic outcome of certain moments in the ani-manga, and videos that see if L could discover other villains or real criminals and vise versa if other villains or heroes could discover and arrest/kill Light or kill L.
Batman actually does know Joker’s identity. He speaks to Alfred in one comic that he knew who the Joker was a week after meeting him and the only reason he doesn’t reveal it is because he is keeping Joker’s family(his wife and son who both lived), in hiding so neither the Joker or others would be able to find them.
Can you imagine if the Death Note still worked if the pages were laminated. Light could have used an erasable sharpie and have an unlimited use Death Note 📝
This fight is more of a "why bother" scenario. Either give L the ability to go back in time to when Joker was less mysterious and catch him in the act of a crime, or face the force of inevitable entropy. The last video was much more of a strategy video while this is more of a thought experiment of combining two very different characters.
I'd think the most realistic outcome from this scenario is L being manipulated into ingesting Joker toxin and thus creating The L Who Laughs; cackling from a chair in a fetal position while nomming on dessert.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec It's due to poor execution. There is a character whose whole backstory (B Rex) is a page front and back. 14 textboxes. To me that's not a backstory, that's an idea held together by glue, duck tape, and a nearly terminal case of writer's block. If you have an idea, don't make it so blatant that you're out of ideas.
well it is explained that joker doesn't fully try and him sometimes WANTING batman to catch him, plus considering that godlike entities can't even find out who the joker truly is its going to be one hell of a challenge. plus joker himself admits not even he knows his past and if he is going to have multiple he might as well choose what backstory he believes.
@@Mr_Edward_Nigma that keeps changing depending on the writter, for example in 3 Jokers It is explained that Batman always knew the who the Joker was. In most versions he is just a regular insane criminal, nothing special compared to Light Yagami who had top level intelligence and supernatural help from his Note, Misa and the Shinigami. The Joker is not a challengr to Batman as a detective, he never was, he is a challenge to his morals. It's not about wether Batman Will catch Joker, it's what Will he do after he gets him, kill him and break his n1 rule or follow the law. That was what Killing Joke was all about. Joker knew that he would get caught easily so his plan was to prove thqt good men like Batman and Gordon could turn bad like him.
I love the "theory" that The Joker is aware of the 4th wall... in that he's pretty much the ONLY being in the DC universe that's aware of it... for example: the lasurus pit always turns the user insane, as if all of their mental processes have left them... but when Joker uses it... he becomes a normal person... So his motivation can't be anything logical or sensible to anyone in that universe, because his entire purpose is to make a thrilling storyline and entice the audience... us... insanity incarnate... if he wasn't correct
@@HeroineMotherOfficial what? How tf would light ever figure out joker identity? He would need to follow joker to his beginning to ever find it which isn’t likely.
The thing is the joker cant be predicated as kira can plus what is stopping the joker from just killing him out right plus the joker can be get himself arrested to get to L and then breakout
When it comes to supernatural themes, something which fits the Death Note Universe, I think that the Batman that Laughs vs L would also be a valid matchup.
The alternative is the Joker is just your everyday narcissist who's more sane than he wants people to believe who can only get away with his crimes because batman has a code. Joker's personality changes all the time for the sake of the story. "We want a universe threatening story, but we also want the villain to be the more recognizable joker? Got to give him god level intelligence."
Okay… but why would L the worlds greatest detective care about some random hooded guy breaking into a plant? L only tackles cases that nobody else can solve, this usually demands some time between the crime and L going on alert. Batman on the other hand just listens to the police scanner in his local area and shows up. At minimum L wouldn’t get interested in the Joker until late in his career.
Looks like you have missed the comics. Batman had to pull out every tactic, solve various mysteries and riddles in order to just get to know where Joker lives. Joker scales higher than L in intellect and feats. Joker was shown to have the ability to manipulate human population into killing themselves. Batman has beaten many people smarter and higher than L multiple times, but still he couldn't reach Joker's intellect
@@Sakurushi_OwO Sure I'm fine with that. But it still doesn't touch my argument. The video stated that L would be interested in finding Joker before he even broke into his old workplace. My question is why? He hadn't done anything yet for L to notice.
@@KeizerSinbad Oh you make sense. But Joker was wanted in America and the government couldn't do anything to Joker because of how smart he is. So somehow, L might be interested in this case
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I love your death note analysis videos so yes 100%
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Yes! Please make more videos like this! Heck, i'd love to see the following covered if you don't mind recommendations:
* Who is the deadlier killer with a gun- Golgo 13 or Deadshot?
* Would the Guyver control metal be unstoppable in the Dragon Ball Universe?
* Unicron vs Galactus ( why not?)
*Aptom vs Cell ( who has the better absorbsion Abilities?)
You could do who is smarter, Ayanokoji or Light? Or maybe Ayanokoji or L?
Do you read manhwa or LN? If so, can you scale Nirvana Jin Mori from God Of High School or LN Sung Jin Woo from Solo Levelling?
The difference between this and the Batman-Kira case is that the Joker isn't really doing anything to prevent L from figuring out his real identity. This is less of a "L vs Joker" and more L being curious about something. Learning his identity isn't really all that relevant to stopping him from doing crimes. Imagine L going "I finally know who Joker is", and then the Joker blows up a hospital anyway.
Only way it can be considered a loss or win is if the joker actually agree to the terms. L has to actually announce his intentions so that the joker does what he does. otherwise the joker will just play anything off because from an outsiders point of view it's just L being interested in the red hood.
Well, L has to figure out the identity AND catch/stop him. And he could only do that for 1/3 anyway. But unlike Batman, I don't think L would be like, "I know his identity but it doesn't matter." He'd be like, "I figured out 1/3. Execute that one." Which is still a loss, but 1 less Joker is a win for Gotham and all of DC's Earth, really. Sometimes even beyond Earth lol.
i mean joker would probably just straight up kill L (or torture him) if we are being honest like joker would find it entertaining that L is trying to find him but probably get bored and just blow him up (and by him i mean the city he is currently in)
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@@diveblock2058 It's really really hard to imagine that happening considering how cautious and anonymous L is. There is no insensitive for L to reveal himself in any way as it would not get him anywhere close to finding out the Joker's identity because L would most likely without much hesitation execute the Joker after achieving that. This match just doesn't make much sense to me. L does not need to get too close to the joker to find that out and therefore the Joker would have no real reason to gun for him.
The recent Gordon comic reminded me that Joker isn't just some crazy dude. He's ingenious and meticulous. All the insane things he does has a purpose, but the only person who truely knows that purpose is Joker.
joker doesnt even know the purpose
As always with comics that depends on the writers, in recent times he is mostly just a crazy dude with tons of power, the thing about joker is that he was never ment to challenge batman's mind henis there to challenge his morals, he is the chaos to batman's law. The one that is rightfully smart as batman is the riddler, when the writers don't make him into just a joke from the adam west era he is as smart or maybe smarter than batman, while batman is only able to defeat him thinking outside the box
@@nechocat1234 The Riddler sucks.
My theory is that the Joker's super sanity allows him to realize that the entire existence of his multiverse depends on him being the Joker. Without him and his crazy antics, the Batman series would go broke, so it doesn't matter how many lives he ruins when doing nothing ruins everything.
@@nechocat1234
Example plz as someone with only experience with riddler from the AA game series
Now, all that’s left is, “Could Kira end crime in Gotham”. Basically, could he kill all of Batmans rogues gallery before they catch on/kill him.
Reminds me of a Dark Multiverse fan video where a version of Batman gets the Death Note and ultimately decides to start killing criminals with it.
The Court of Owls, League of Assassins, Joker and Bane at minimum have a strong chance, considering the 4 groups/individuals have outsmarted Batman on multiple occasions. Most others have no hope. Certain rogues may not count as "human" for the purpose of being killed by the book, like Poison Ivy or Clayface, due to their altered biology. In those cases Kira may simply be shit-out-of-luck. But normals like Crane, Cobblepot and Nigma? Dead instantly.
@@psychicsidekick4198 To be fair, I think Movie Light managed to orchestrate a death such that the person killed someone else? So it’s possible he could maybe get another person to kill Ivy for him if Ivy doesn’t count as human for the purposes of the death note.
On top of what everyone else said, someone hiring Deathstroke to deal with him will have Kira’s ass handed to him on a silver platter
If you mean literally all, then no. Like yeah the Penguin and all the mobsters are easy, they have their names. But Joker? Or even the Court of Owls. It's nye-impossible
L finding out Joker's identity means absolutely nothing. He would hear it announced and then do what Aaron Sanchez said and just blow up a hospital to prove it means nothing. That would be such a Joker thing to do. He'd also say something like "figuring out the punchline means nothing when you don't have *delivery*" before he blows up the maternal ward of a hospital.
Well when Batman threatened to tell joker his identity making him freak out and then he threw himself off a cliff rather then know the truth but other’s versions of the joker might not care
@@StarSteve681 True. I guess it does depend. Still, I think Joker making a "delivery" joke and then blowing up a maternity ward of a hospital would be an moment in this hypothetical battle.
@@clyax113well yeah he definitely would do that at some point
@StarSteve681 I'm pretty sure this is the last laugh version of the joker not that one
Batman once said about the joker’s identity
“I knew who he was Alfred, from the day we met, he has a kid and wife still living, but his backstory doesn’t matter the man he is now is completely different from what he was”
AKA the Joker's original self is dead and no longer him.
That was a different timeline it’s not actually Alfred just so you know
@@Randomguy09818 no, it's Batman talking to Alfred, not about Alfred
Fear God
so even if he figures it out joker will still blow up some hospital?
The "Could Batman solve the Kira case" video was always one of my favourite videos from your channel! Glad to see a "sequel" on the idea
Not any of the deleted ones?
The problem with these videos Batman and Joker live in paranormal world with God's, Alien's, Demon etc. Let me explain Batman on being World Greatest Detective is a master of 127 martial art's being the best H2H combatant basically Brawn and Brain combined and Joker just like Batman has a genius level intelligence and has his own chaotic fighting style in other words their conflict is both action packed and heavy dilagoue between ideology's .That's why most people can collab with them and do crossover's and that's why someone like Johan, Kira or L will never crossover beacuse they are not that speacial.
@@Resident4Island Kira's main strength is being able to kill literally anyone with a soul if he has their face and name. However once his method of killing is known, it becomes much easier to defend against.
Batman would understand the rules of Light and L are high end Detective work game theory, and threats of death don't count if the game strategy dictates something else would happen if the other guy is smart.
Batman demands Light to kill the Joker. If he doesn't do it, he's a bad person and a hypocrite.
If he does do it, it proves he's Kira.
Or Batman approves of L asking if he can put Light on the spot with this high pressure question.
Making Light interact with the Joker would bring evidence that Light is Kira out faster.
Light is more dangerous and evil than the Joker.
And Batman is willing to gamble Joker's life to catch Kira.
Kira gets the same kind of exceptional treatment Joker does to a level beyond the Joker gets.
L and Batman put together easily take down Light with no win scenarios.
Great sequel to your first Batman/ Death Note video. I like how you mentioned the three Jokers as part of the equation.
Didn't expect to see you here either but, yo big fan also!
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Seeing you here is kinda funny for me, the two peeps that inspired my gamertag lol
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Now could Batman catch the Joker is the real question here 🤔
he could, several times
Only if Batman uses the Deathnote [insert maniacal Joker laugh]
He could if he worked with the IRS
batman knows the jokers real name and knows where joker lives, watches over the jokers son and wifes house. Batman has known about jokers personal life for years. He just doesnt take action sadly
@@realme-tq4cq Thats not Jokers current personal life but his OLD life
Usually he doesnt know where Joker is.
Joker has always been able to challenge Batmans intellect
Riddler: Why not me? I am a better rival for L for a long list of reasons
I think a more interesting question to answer in the future could be, “Could L Catch Batman?”
And have the game be around L trying to solve Batman’s true identity, something I think he’d probably take interest in
If you look at the "Kira vs. Batman" video, you can infer the answer to this easily.
I feel like L would work out that it's Bruce in 3 seconds just with simple logic. Clearly someone who loves Gotham and has access to virtually unlimited funds and technology. bruce Wayne. Next.
@@ceilingsintheireyes6288 he would need proof of said deduction which he wouldn’t get.
Careful people who think Bruce Wayne is the only multi billionaire in Gotham are going to tell you it's obvious.
Carefree drunken idiot Bruce Wayne? Batman? Ridiculous. Have you ever seen that rich boy lift? At most he’s privately funding Batman. Maybe a team of them. Now Lex Luthor? That’s your guy.
Seriously though people only think it’s easy to figure out because there’re not in the world of the story. At most he’s a suspect.
Another thing to note, though it might not be too important, Joker is probably aware of the fact he’s in a comic book. He’s referenced the reader a few times, referenced past crossovers nobody else remembers, and even turned the page of a comic he was in.
Batman outsmarted Anti Monitor who also Destroyed a place that viewed DC as Fiction .
If that's the case, Joker being in a manga and it being read the opposite way would confuse him and cause him to slip up and get caught
that’s not 100% confirmed that’s just a theory i believe that it probably true for a few versions of the joker but not every joker i’ve seen the imaginary axis too
@@TypetwoAbsolute he’s actually been in a manga before, though I’m not sure if that version of him was aware of the 4th wall
@@lukefloor hence the “probably”
Plus with the state of DC Comics last I checked anything you want is canon, or at least that’s what I still hear.
I think Joker would WANT L to catch him, but I also believe Joker would get bored with him quick (unlike Batman) and just straight up kill him off.
pretty much
No, lol. L isn't defense less. He would be the one to kill/arrest the joker. L isn't dumb enough to send him back to Arkham lol.
@@asura3229 lmao you joker fanboys are so dumb. It's because of dumb writing joker could do this. Joker is a mere human.
L has history of dealing with worse than joker like Beyond Birthday. L will take necessary precautions and he isn't dumb enough to send joker back to Arkham lol.
@@GenUrobutcher If it's the Joker then yeah L is fuckin defenseless against him
I don't think he'd kill him, that'd be too boring. Joker would break L's mind and shatter his soul. Joker, out of pure amusement and boredom, would go out of his way to prove to L that he is nothing, just like everyone else. That all his little detective games that he plays is all one massive joke.
Then he'd leave him to rot within his own self-created madness while the Joker goes off to chase the next shinny car.
Joker’s not exactly covering his tracks but he would probably want L to find him only to kidnap and torture him.
EDIT: yikes looks like I started a war with the L fans lol
I'd love Joker vs Johan Liebert would be interesting
If L stops the outbreak of WW3 , then he's not a walk in the park.
Yeah he would want to but L isn't Batman so he wouldn't.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt oh god Joker and Johan together feels even more insane than Kratos and Asura in the same room
L would obviously know that. Do you think L is stupid lmao, Why do you think seth made this video in the first place? It's because he is a detective that almost rivals batman in intelligence.
@@itzYonko Batman's IQ is 192 while kid L was 250 - 300
Having L execute joker I actually see as the ultimate loss for joker it isn't a big scary vigilante who stops joker to keep people safe it's just a childish detective who finds solving cases interesting
Yup. Joker was terrified in one of the shows when the situation came up where he thought an average guy could kill him with a bomb. He wants a real flashy ending not some nobody that he himself has no interest in.
@@TrixyTrixter my favorite ep
this is just disrespect... makes me wish L is getting buried alive by being outsmarted because of his cockiness.
Joker could easily kill L to he honest
It would be a nightmare for him.
I assumed L’s win condition is more prove the Joker is guilty in the judicial system, not so much revealing his identity. He needed Light’s identity to prove he was a serial killer not strictly for the name. Same thing with BB, he wanted to prove BB’s guilt and arrest him, not specifically getting his name.
Yeah get joker tried as a sane man as he is and throw him in the chair
@@tfordham13
good luck with that
he's been in numerous max security prisons and finds a way out via by shenanigans or outside help
@@Michael-sb8jfin maximum security in a mental asylum where there not meant to kill him plus joker has a reason to go after batman he doesn't have the same thinh towards L as L wouldn't care to go back after joker
The fact is, even in the Killing Joke, Joker himself admits that his backstory might not be true. He likes it to be different every time. Some parts of it might be true but some are mixed up.
The fact that after all these years even the readers don't know what his actual backstory is, it's kinda terrifying.
Not terrifying, just annoying. They’ll make up whatever bullshit they want to push the story with joker that week.
@@cryamistellimek9184 yeah I feel you, joker worked best as a small scale villain not with over complicated plots to destroy gotham but being there to mess up specific people, before the modern age joker the tought of joker having a backstory wasn't even important he either was a mafioso with clown makeup or a crazy dude doing petty crimes being batman's archnemesis is modern era stuff, when the righters made joker and batman needing each other existance is sickening it implies that batman is not doing super hero stuff to fix the city and is just doing it as a petty game with joker
@@cryamistellimek9184 So you can shit any idea, no matter how good it is, just call it nonsense and that's it, it's not an argument
Yeah, it's kinda silly treating this specific origin as canon and then wondering why no one figured it out. It's easy because you're falling into the trap of taking the Joker on his word. In all likelihood he didn't even have "one bad day", he just had a degenerative neurological disorder that lead him to go mad over time, then he retroactively applied a twisted philosophy to justify his behaviour until he was so far gone that he didn't need it, by which point he was already obsessed with demonstrating it. Even if he was confident in what his backstory is, he's not a reliable narrator, especially after how often he's gone to Arkham Asylum (whose founder electrocuted his first patient during shock therapy, was home to Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, and the second Black Mask during their prior careers in psychology, and is notorious for having doctors experiment on the patients).
@@cryamistellimek9184 and that's exactly why it's great. The joker not having a true origin means the possibilities of stories that can be told with him are endless.
So L practically has a chance on beating the joker if he finds out his original identity and arrest him before he becomes insane but if he fails the game is already over and joker would instantly win. That’s cool.😺
Batman knows Joker's real identity and has been keeping his ex wife and son in witness protection in Alaska. TOok him a week to find it out (Also Bruce Told the jOker who HE WAS too at that time). I'm pretty sure L could find the same information just as fast if not faster given he doesn't spend most of his nights jumping off of rooftops.
This was never said in the video...L would still be able to find out the joker's identity as long as he gets to working before the work files are erased. the files weren't erased as soon as the joker fell, the files still existed at the point of the joker falling it's simply only a matter of time before the files do happen to get erased.
@@erichaskins1942 Even people who are smarter than L couldn't figure out who joker is though
@@bulbafett5001 Joker outsmarts Gods and aliens , so basically it won't matter
Right, but that's after Joker really got going. Basically, if L got interested in Joker during the Clown Prince Of Crime's first year, L could probably win. (Assuming the files existed for about a year. We aren't told exactly when they're deleted, so let's just say a year, because the government/EPA move slow irl) After that? Pretty much instant loss.
Also, he can only figure out 1/3 Joker's identities. But assuming Red Hood/Killing Joke Joker is the 1st Joker (which I don't think he is but let's pretend for a second), then L can win in Year 1 and the other 2 Jokers possibly never exist.
However, if I remember right, there's basically classic-Silver Age Joker, from the 60s and stuff, who is canonically the 1st Joker. Pretty sure Killing Joke Joker is then the 2nd. Because I think he's from the more modern era. Not even sure which is the 3rd? I'm gonna guess the one who cut his face off? Seems different enough from KJ Joker to be a 3rd lol. But who knows? They're all crazy.
Capturing The Joker is not the problem. On the other hand, outsmarting The Joker is the real issue.
Genius Intellect Vs. Super Insanity
Just put an add in the newspaper
"Looking for insane clown with murderous tendencies and interest in a good laugh"
Next day the Joker stands at the door.
I'd love a dialogue between Joker & Light. I think the Joker would recognise his inner insanity near immediately.
I think Joker would kill Light in general
Nah, he would hella laugh about it
Yeah or Joker would probably get in his head and/or reduce him to tears just by sheer manipulation.
Joker would just fuck with Light effortlessly. Joker, as wicked as he seems, is actually INCREDIBLY calculated and I'd argue, WAY MORE STABLE than Light, emotionally at least. Joker's ridiculously cunning and intelligent, you never quite know what he's about, meanwhile if not observed with a one sided eye like Light's father or his friends in the task force, Light's lies are quite obvious and are always pretty cheesy
GREAT VIDEO
This is what makes L so much fun. He's a really well done trope character so he transitions well.
The sequel you never knew you wanted
I'm sure L can catch him but that's when Joker game starts , if L commits the error of restrain him like he did with Kira and Misa he's pretty much done.
L always looked superior to Kira until he did something unpredictable like losing his memories at purpose, that's L weakness and one of Joker best feats, being unpredictable.
L stopped ww3 at 8 years old
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt joker is as smart as batman and outsmarted the entire justice league so no
@@justsomebody5450 if both were on neutral grounds, L could definitely catch him.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt its not about catching him though, its about winning
@@shastacat9632 It's true, it is about winning. In the end whatever happens the Joker basically wins, he wants to be caught meaning he would win in the end no matter what L does.
Stopping the Joker case is less about figuring out his identity. And more about finding out which warehouse he's using as a base. And capturing him before he can cause more terror
Can the FBI catch SethTheProgrammer?
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Why would they?
@@dynias7282
You have a lot to catch up on
As a FBI agent he is still on the lose.
No. The Joker's greatest asset isn't his intelligence, it's his judge of character. He sees right through every single person immediately. Makes him so much more dangerous.
Keep in mind - L's greatest strength is his powers of deduction. You can't deduce much from the Joker - he's truly bananas.
No jokers more truely sane he knows he isnt real most of the time
Catch Joker? Yes maybe but, stopping him is a completely different debate especially considering Batman has stated the only person who knows what Joker is doing is the Joker and what makes him dangerous is just how unpredictable he is especially considering just how insane he is. He also famously says he’s a man without a plan but he is constantly “planning” sometimes ahead of Batman due to his unpredictability, he’s insane but smart and knows what he’s doing , only he knows. L is smart but due to Jokers sheer insanity I’d say he’d get caught but break out whenever he wants or just bully L his whole career.
If the story is in Death Note, then Joker loses.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt no joker wins
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt also there's no way joker would exist in the death note universe so this like a combined universe
@@grandcanyon-fu9ztJoker beats L 9/10 times and it’s bullying, again only Joker knows what he’s doing it doesn’t matter how far ahead L thinks he is, Joker is gonna be ahead. He’s insane but a very methodical thinker don’t underestimate his intelligence just cause he’s insane.
@@justsomebody5450 agreed even if he did I feel like they’d laugh at him or underestimate him at first which would give Joker the automatic win. As soon as you let your guard down against Joker your fucked, superman did it and injustice happened lmao.
As expected back to back to back quality content from Seth.
Had no idea that there was three different canonical versions of the Joker. This guy just keeps getting stranger by the day, I swear.
The clown, the criminal, and the comedian.
Meanwhile in the Harley Quin show: Joker becomes a step dad and mayor
I like the idea a young Batman attempts to stop the red hood but is killed and the reveal of Billionaire Bruce Wayne being a vigilante and being killed by another costumed foe / gang Interests L enough to become involved but he’s too late to stop Red hood before becoming the Joker. Great vid!
The Joker's identity doesn't matter because he presumably doesn't have anything to do with his former life, he is a new insane identity.
Also he said at the beginning that nobody ever found Jokers real identity but Batman did find his identity, he just didn't tell anyone about it
For the sake of the rules is matters but it really doesn’t make sense when it comes down to Joker’s character
@@ThefifthBishopofGord your wrong about that the joker is way too smart for L but at the end he just wants to have fun if L announces these rules it more than likely joker will accept and play by them unless he wants to torture L by killing someone close to him in order to make him stronger
@@sss_7399 Yeah, I honestly barely know anything about either characters and that does seem like something the Joker from what I know. Like I have literally not read or seen a single panel of death note before this video but I know a slight bit more since I have actually a seen panels with the joker in them
I mean what would revealing his identity really do like “the joker is John Doe now we can send people out to go catch him” like everyone’s been trying to catch him regardless revealing his true identity doesn’t change the goal or approach at all and doesn’t even really provide any useful info.
I love when seth has to pay bills and showers us with vids
L : "I am Justice"
Joker : "Oh thank God, I thought you were the IRS"
Hey, even the Joker pays his taxes.
3:46 He HAS been identified, Batman has always known the Joker's identity. This has been revealed in a canon story.
L is skilled at analyzing calculated strategy, whereas the Joker is pure unpredictable chaos. When someone’s moves aren’t traceable, they become almost impossible to beat.
He isn't pure unpredictable chaos otherwise at times he would start trying to aid the world.
Chaos swings all ways.
@@Dragoonsoul7878 You could very well argue that his chaos could help the world. It really depends on how you look at it.
the joker isnt just pure chaos though. he does do things with a purpose. he wants to make the world laugh like he does. he wants to teach people lessons in despair and madness. that life is chaos and a giant joke of suffering and tragedy. you might not be able to predict his moves easily but baiting a trap would be easy.
Yes we're back with deathnote omg. Deathnote is such a good show and this is like the best possible follow up to your "could batman catch kira" and thank you so much
*Death Note
The deathnote and Batman crossovers are your best videos imo
Imagine how dangerous L would be if he was trained by Batman instead lol
Very dangerous, L is already an amazing detective considering how he stopped World War 3 from happening at the age of 8. So if Batman trained him, L will probably have no such weaknesses or get an unfair disadvantage at all and would catch BB or Kira already. Batman would be a key to helping L to bring out his fullest potential as a detective.
Yes. Next question. (The joker never really tries to hide his trail.
If Light does exists in the DC Universe, then The Riddler has finally found a worthy opponent, since both of them are narcissistic geniuses who is obsessed with finding out their identities through names.
I love when you make videos like this, they're genuinely interesting and in-depth. I hope you'll keep posting videos like this
can L catch you though?
Riddler: “Hey L, Riddle me th…”
L: “Oh don’t worry we already had all the bombs you planted around the city defused”
The only advantage L has up on Batman is that if L gets a hold of Joker he would have no qualms about killing him. If he deduced that Joker is too big a threat to keep alive, which I’m sure L would figure out, he’d have him killed immediately.
He would still want to know his identity
His pride is too much
@@AdvancedGamer- but why is there pride in revealing a madman's former identity?....
@@iamLI3 Kira js proof
@@AdvancedGamer- but L doesn't think kira is a madman
You should a third video about how L and Batman would outsmart each other if placed in the same universe.
Actually no,No would be a child's play for Batman..so is Johan..
Bruce is just built different and the intellect feats are not even comparable..
What exactly are they trying to do?
If this is L versus Batman in who can figure out each other's identity, L stomps 10/10
If it's who can catch each other first, Batman stomps 10/10
It'd likely be some kind of tie where they work together or ignore each other due to having the same goals of stopping crime.
The real challenge isn't catching Joker (or any of batman's villains) it's keeping them contained 😶
Joker is basically a villain with plot armor because everyone loves him so much
3 years later and your mic went from a modern mic to a mic you'd get bundled with an OG Xbox 360
I literally just rewatched the Batman V Light video yesterday, this upload is perfect timing
Man Seth's really bangin' out the content this week, keep up the good work bro
Could Mystery Inc. solve the Kira case?
Jinkies
No.
@@MichaelAChristian1 you must be forgetting about ultra instinct shaggy and god of destruction scooby doo. Two gods definitely sweep Kira
@@krankkid7394 Yeah super shaggy could figure it out.
Maby they wil cause the kira case or get deathnote first
L can figure out jokers plan and maybe even how to stop him but actually having the capability to do it is something else entirely
L is shameless enough to just ask Light directly to kill the Joker.
You ARE the Joker
seth been killing it lately
ikr?
Killing people's mental health
Making the victory condition arresting the joker, is weighing this heavily in lights favor. The joker regularly escapes from the police and allows himself to be caught very consistently.
Exactly, the only win condition would be to arrest him, sentence him to death and actually carrying out the sentence. That is of course if L doesn't care about proving the joker's ideology by killing him and doesn't want to rehabilitate him like batman
Yeah, but the police in DC is so embarrassingly incompetent lol. Joker usually just turns himself in and pleads for insanity despite that making no sense. If L caught Joker in his early days, he would've executed him right there and then
L would whip Gotham's law enforcement into shape with terrifying efficiency, assuming he didn't just pull the national agencies into his game first. There wouldn't be any 'incompetent official somehow lets the Joker out' for the Joker to abuse, L would seal the holes in his net first, before casting it. Likely through illegal means, depending on how much he wants to win the game.
That plot point about L having to not send a helicopter after Joker when he jumped into the river, like... why would L even be interested in this RANDOM ASS robery in the first place? I'd guess it would be just the police trying to catch the Joker, causing him to jump into the river
Best anime youtuber for me the most underrated channel with shonen showdown i love your videos man
Joker doesn’t care about getting caught. His plot armor allows him to escape prison
these kinds of videos are so interesting and relaxing to watch thanks Seth
The Jokers' strength is his unpredictability. Which is interesting since L seems to revel in asymmetrical warfare. The main issue is that the L has morals and the Joker doesn't, which will make life difficult for L.
L's Morals are very questionable. these cases are higher on his value system than basic morals.
I just keep rewatching Death Note. It’s short enough to binge over and over, like Invincible, and it’s just so good. While people complain about the second arc, and it does indeed have issues, it is still great (especially the soundtrack, if you listen to the anime while gaming like I do). So I love to see any videos like this that goes into a more realistic outcome of certain moments in the ani-manga, and videos that see if L could discover other villains or real criminals and vise versa if other villains or heroes could discover and arrest/kill Light or kill L.
I just watched Death Note for the first time, it’s just so gripping. I’m watching it again just after finishing it, something I’ve never done before.
I still don't believe how people forget how for many many years Joker has managed to outsmart Batman again and again
Batman actually does know Joker’s identity. He speaks to Alfred in one comic that he knew who the Joker was a week after meeting him and the only reason he doesn’t reveal it is because he is keeping Joker’s family(his wife and son who both lived), in hiding so neither the Joker or others would be able to find them.
Can you imagine if the Death Note still worked if the pages were laminated. Light could have used an erasable sharpie and have an unlimited use Death Note 📝
This fight is more of a "why bother" scenario. Either give L the ability to go back in time to when Joker was less mysterious and catch him in the act of a crime, or face the force of inevitable entropy. The last video was much more of a strategy video while this is more of a thought experiment of combining two very different characters.
And?
Hmm... I don't really think L would at first think Red hood is interesting enough to investigate.
this was an awesome video and hope we get more like it
😂😂😂This man Seth disappears for a month and comes back to drop straight bangers
I'd think the most realistic outcome from this scenario is L being manipulated into ingesting Joker toxin and thus creating The L Who Laughs; cackling from a chair in a fetal position while nomming on dessert.
Please stopped no more who laugh. People who laugh gets boring really quick
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec I'd don't know about you or anyone else but I'd read "The Khanh Nguyen Who Laughs"!
@@livelivingpoker Until I become so powerful I make conflict non existence thus no story.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec It's due to poor execution. There is a character whose whole backstory (B Rex) is a page front and back. 14 textboxes. To me that's not a backstory, that's an idea held together by glue, duck tape, and a nearly terminal case of writer's block. If you have an idea, don't make it so blatant that you're out of ideas.
I think a better name would be " The Laughing Man "
Seth is really on a roll
Skipped to the end just to hear you say idk. I'm dead 💀
The Joker is so unpredictable, L would not have an easy task
The crazy part to take into account is that Joker is an insanely smart character.
Easily. Batman has caught him 100 times.The hard part is not catching him, it's keeping him in the revolving door that is Arkham.
well it is explained that joker doesn't fully try and him sometimes WANTING batman to catch him, plus considering that godlike entities can't even find out who the joker truly is its going to be one hell of a challenge. plus joker himself admits not even he knows his past and if he is going to have multiple he might as well choose what backstory he believes.
@@Mr_Edward_Nigma that keeps changing depending on the writter, for example in 3 Jokers It is explained that Batman always knew the who the Joker was.
In most versions he is just a regular insane criminal, nothing special compared to Light Yagami who had top level intelligence and supernatural help from his Note, Misa and the Shinigami.
The Joker is not a challengr to Batman as a detective, he never was, he is a challenge to his morals. It's not about wether Batman Will catch Joker, it's what Will he do after he gets him, kill him and break his n1 rule or follow the law. That was what Killing Joke was all about. Joker knew that he would get caught easily so his plan was to prove thqt good men like Batman and Gordon could turn bad like him.
I love the "theory" that The Joker is aware of the 4th wall... in that he's pretty much the ONLY being in the DC universe that's aware of it... for example: the lasurus pit always turns the user insane, as if all of their mental processes have left them... but when Joker uses it... he becomes a normal person... So his motivation can't be anything logical or sensible to anyone in that universe, because his entire purpose is to make a thrilling storyline and entice the audience... us...
insanity incarnate... if he wasn't correct
Its not about catching Joker, its about keeping him locked up
I feel like L sending a helicopter to catch a few mobsters trespassing in a chemical plant is a misallocation of resources
Now we need a Joker vs Kira! That would be really fun to see play out
And than Batman and L vs Joker and Kira.
Light wins so easily💀
@@HeroineMotherOfficial what? How tf would light ever figure out joker identity? He would need to follow joker to his beginning to ever find it which isn’t likely.
@@HeroineMotherOfficial nah not even close, there is just no possible way light could ever find out joker's name
@@Jsipki265 misa has the shinigami eyes tho
Even Martian Manhunter having trouble messing with Joker’s mind is crazy.
What if Kira called Saul Goodman?
Its over then.
Gg to the joker.
He would reduce his death sentence to 3 months of community service
@@rusty7984 Or using death note under supervision.
I love these death note "what if" stories keep up the good work
Yes!! I just rewatched batman vs kira last night. We need more death note content seth!
Could L catch Seth?
Nope
No, but Seth is always catching Ls
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Batman taking Care of Kira and Ask L to take Care of Joker. I love it!
Batman works alone
@@muhammadeyssa23648 Robin, Nightwing, Red Hood, Batgirl, Alfred, the list goes on
@@jordanfriederichs8698 Don’t know why you added Batgirl. Batman doesn’t work with women 🍽☕️
@@muhammadeyssa23648 Lol he has many times before wym
@@muhammadeyssa23648 maybe in your headcanon he doesn't. Hate to break it to you but batman isn't an incel like you.
Joker is alot smarter then people think
The thing is the joker cant be predicated as kira can plus what is stopping the joker from just killing him out right plus the joker can be get himself arrested to get to L and then breakout
Banger video. This style is some of y’all’s best work.
When it comes to supernatural themes, something which fits the Death Note Universe, I think that the Batman that Laughs vs L would also be a valid matchup.
The better question is could L keep Joker in jail…
This is great! It's easy to forget how ridiculously intelligent the Joker is.
I think L vs Riddler makes more sense, but that’d be easier for L
He also broke into the Pentagon twice,
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I feel like maybe L vs Riddler would be better suited
Joker is easy to catch, he literally wants it.
The alternative is the Joker is just your everyday narcissist who's more sane than he wants people to believe who can only get away with his crimes because batman has a code.
Joker's personality changes all the time for the sake of the story. "We want a universe threatening story, but we also want the villain to be the more recognizable joker? Got to give him god level intelligence."
Okay… but why would L the worlds greatest detective care about some random hooded guy breaking into a plant?
L only tackles cases that nobody else can solve, this usually demands some time between the crime and L going on alert.
Batman on the other hand just listens to the police scanner in his local area and shows up.
At minimum L wouldn’t get interested in the Joker until late in his career.
Looks like you have missed the comics. Batman had to pull out every tactic, solve various mysteries and riddles in order to just get to know where Joker lives.
Joker scales higher than L in intellect and feats. Joker was shown to have the ability to manipulate human population into killing themselves.
Batman has beaten many people smarter and higher than L multiple times, but still he couldn't reach Joker's intellect
@@Sakurushi_OwO Sure I'm fine with that. But it still doesn't touch my argument. The video stated that L would be interested in finding Joker before he even broke into his old workplace. My question is why? He hadn't done anything yet for L to notice.
@@KeizerSinbad Oh you make sense. But Joker was wanted in America and the government couldn't do anything to Joker because of how smart he is. So somehow, L might be interested in this case
More like "Could L catch YOU" bro