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- Substack columnist and former MMA fighter Malcolm Flex gives his take on how the media is using the death of Jordan Neely to push a specific narrative on 'Jesse Watters Primetime.' #foxnews #fox #jessewattersprimetime
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The Marine has to leave NYC after all this comes to a conclusion. These left leaning liberals who hold elected office don't ride the subways.
Anthony Vasquez crimes only take place on subways? don't be a pu$$Y answer the question.
And becareful his location never leaks especially to government officials because they will get on a bullhorn and tell EVERYONE THE NAME OF HIS FAMILY ALL THEIR ADDRESSES AND HIS EXACT LOCATION AND TELL PROTESTERS TO ATTACK..and that's the truth😊
Agreed, but NYC has become a cesspool
You are right. The Marine must leave the city and serve his conviction behind bars. I don't care where he serves as long as he is somewhere thinking about his Murderous behavior!!!
@@Candy-yk5pg you are such a joke 😂
I once saw a video of a Black man choking an Asian man until he became unconscious. No one ever cried racism and I doubt that he Black man got prosecuted.
Granted, Jones and Machida agreed to fight under a sanctioned rule set….. lol ok ok I know this is no joking matter but I had to 😂 if you don’t know, youtube it and thank me later 🙏🏽 sorry for the somewhat relevant irrelevancy lol
I’m pretty sure it’s because they didn’t DIE. Are you slow in the head?
This is not a racial matter.
@@philalexander7902 definitely Rachel
Did the Asian man die?
As someone who commutes in NYC, I often see EDPs like Jordan Neely terrorizing the commuters. We’re so tired and in fear that we’re going to be next and no one will help. In that case I wish someone like the marine is around since the system won’t protect us.
Universial housing is the way!
@@darthgrievous3678 😂😂😂😂
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
We are the system? Wake up, Snap out of it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Was he born to act that way or was he nurtured?
Scarlet Mercedes wouldn't it be a smart idea to ignore mentally ill people on a train if you encounter them? isn't that what most new yorkers do? the system doesn't need to baby sit people because crimes take place every where not just on trains. Just admit you don't like colored people and you are self projecting your hatred for them simple.
There’s not a side you can objectively take with this because the fact is, this young man had mental problems and shouldn’t have been on the streets in the first place.
The only questions I have are, why was he given so many chances when there are people doing time for victimless crimes like marijuana?
Why did his family intervene and get him help years ago?
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
Unfortunately in many states, an adult can refuse treatment and walk back out onto the street. He didn't have a weapon, didn't threaten anyone yet people are defending the murderer. However when the mentally ill person is white (the waffle house murderer) then kills and injured many black people there were many people advocating for him to be found innocent. Racism and bias will always be an issue in this country
what was he arrested for?
@@InIt2winIt247i heard he punched a 67 year old woman and broke one of her bones and he was arrested over 40 times
sad when an innocent person gets thrown into a wall and loses an eye ball and there is barely any news coverage about it ! Or the senior that was pushed down the subway stairwell . There was no protesting about that 😏
Exactly all these crocodile tears save some for the victims
Guess BLM should have shared that money, donors gave instead of buying themselves bling & mansions instead of helping black people
Lol what they did with the money means nothing it’s not about money it’s systemic issues u moron
What a scam of an organization! With another Democrat Style Deceptive Name!
The country is sick and has lost it's mind , what do you expect. But where are the sane people?
Most news outlets only give us the criminal’s perspective these days and want us to empathize with criminals. Not with the real victims of crime.
Neely is the victim of a violent crime. He's dead.
@@philalexander7902 violent?
@silver zoldek um yeah. Isn't Neely dead? Come on try to keep up.
@@augusto34 your reading comprehension isn't too good, is it?
Malcolm Flex is a breath of sanity and eloquence
Yes but needs a voice coach. "You know?"
Nicholas Politis because he is black and he is the voice of the racist? the guy seems to be very slow and it's funny how he is trying to justify a marine who murdered a black man.
ikr
@@jaymatthew738 Neely died in a hospital. Not by marine. What happened there?
why does every ex athlete think they need to be a politician now?
he changed his name planning to do this
My interest in this case is personal, not political. This was a straightforward case of commuters defending themselves against a violent escaped lunatic who threatened their lives for drug money. As a straphanger, I see vagrants doing these sorts of things all the time. The way this poor young Marine is being treated is appalling.
It's just sad that we as a society has reached this point
It's not "sad". It's outrageous!!! This was self defense.
@@jaygold4467 15+ minutes of chokehold is self defence to you?
In fact in the trial Penny didn’t even make the claim Jordan Neely had verbally threatened him.
In what way is this self defence and no Jordan shouting or prior convictions do not make it self defence. Penny had no knowledge of Jordan’s problems and shouting doesn’t mean you can use excessive force.
@@truthnotfeelings Neely the s on video making physical threats to Penny and other passengers! Stop your lies. This was clearly self defense against a dangerous deranged individual who was threatening violence on people. He had a history of assaulting people. So yes, it was clear justified self defense. Stop your lies. Enough of this!
@@jaygold4467 the trial happened he did not make a physical threat. He did not make a single threat of violence against the individuals involved.
Hence why it was ruled manslaughter and not self defence.
You stop with your lies, since I’m reporting from the trial and the footage you are lying.
Why embellish what happened?
@@truthnotfeelings can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen 😂.
If Jordan Neely didn’t qualify for involuntary inpatient treatment with his record, what kind of record does it take??
Had Neely been White, Asian, or Larino, and Penny been Black no one in the media, or the mayors office, would have even covered this matter. Would people protesting now be protesting if Neely was White, Asian, or Latino, and Penny was Black? The ignorance, hatred, and hypocrisy of it all is beyond nauseating.
Your theory could be true, but if we keep looking at these types of incidents through racial lenses, we will never have unity. It’s all an agenda for us to always be divided . The conservative/right said is missing the mark here with this case. They could be better in their assessment but they rather engage in and perpetuate the racial war
Of course!!people of all colors protested. It’s simply about right and wrong.
The real question is: If Penny was black and did this to a white man, would he have gotten away initially? Would protest be necessary just for his arrest?
This is what happens when you let career criminals out of jail.This guy had 42 arrests
He had rights also.
How do you feel about Ashli Babbit?
@@halbleavy9900I don't think you have a right to get of.jail free card
@@BigFootTheRealOne Put that in a narrative and give it context.
@@deshawn18 I literally hate the fact that she had to die that day. I wonder the reason for her actions and where her husband was at the time she attacked the U.S. Capital when they're certifying the Presidential election.
They’d rather be political instead of stopping crime.
Yep
AOC likes the third rail…her bf isn’t getting it done….
Thank you Mr. Flex for coming forward and speaking the truth, you Sir are a breath of fresh air.
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
ikr
@@magaman911 😂 lol you realize how stupid you sound lol
I watched too many videos of somebody bullying, terrorizing, or assaulting other people on a train or bus and nobody stepped in to help. They just stood there watching and recording with their stupid cell phones. Well this time somebody did something.
And now, nobody will again. Women will just get outright rap*d and people will just get robbed and beat. People keep protecting criminals. It’s happening everywhere and it’s disgusting.
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
@@magaman911 🥴
@@magaman911 Who is? Not sure I get what you're sayin'...
And still the people that recorded and did not intervene were called cowards and despicable for not helping.
If they charge anyone they should charge the DA for being spineless pigs. With that mans record shouldnt have even been out of jail
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
So self defense is useless now days the law is on their side ( criminal )
I worked in the mental health system for three years, and i’ll tell you, you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. We can’t follow them around for the rest of their lives reminding them to stay on their treatment plan.
This was a young man in his twenties you sick depraved lunatic!
Malcolm is spot on. I hope to see more of him.
My granddaughter had someone go after her with a knife she's 16 absolutely scary now day's so I take her back and forth.
This is a wise man.
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
@@magaman911 Trump is not president
Yes Jesse is.
That's a African.... He's not a foundational black American... Why is a African ok American television anyway? He doesn't represent my community. That African working hard for that green card 😂
Thanks Malcolm for helping explain this to the simpletons
Great interview. Would love to hear more from him. I stand by the marine. He saves lives even off duty. He deserves a medal by this administration.
He's a murderer. Should be stripped of his pension and put behind bars. I love how no one discusses how his PTSD from being in the maries was possibly triggered by the guys' yelling. Yelling isn't a crime. But yelling triggers ppl. I know as someone that has PTSD.
I've been on thousands of rails and there's always a houseless schizophrenic yelling in one of the cars. You just ignore them if you have no way to help them. I dealt with one guy staring at me calling me sexist slurs while he jerked off. Sure it sucks but again - you just ignore them if you can't help them. Murdering them is not an option. At least not a CHRISTIAN option.
no. maybe had he restrained him instead of KILLING him. it’s gross how willing he was to take a life instead of using his training to restrain him until the police arrived.
@Lawn Chair That hold wasn't dug in...
@@madisonbell6045 He did restrain him...why don't you wait for all of the facts? Are you a believer in fantasy Floyd too?
@@sykwookiee his way of restraining him killed him.
Protect our service members.
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
Year protect him with a bullet to date head
They tried to use this dude as a cash cow.
Division ammo to distract the masses too.
another floyd episode.
A very smart American. Thank you for helping spread the truth
Tj Lance very smart american because he is your voice. You don't truly think he is smart let alone respect black people.
@@jaymatthew738 disagree.
He is a hero not a criminal
How much you want to bet he was on fentanyl moral of the story if your on fentanyl don’t something stupid to get put in a chokehold fentanyl users need to learn this lesson
God Bless our Heroes.
Especially those who’ve come home and got therapy- and those who’ve become murderers out of their own personal loathing
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 oh yes and let’s also take a moment of silence for all those mentally ill people out there causing fear, and chaos and living in an alternate reality because of how fried their brains are from all the drugs they’ve taken, and then finally get killed because people are tired of their stupid sh!t 😔
Scott Adams is a prescient man. He is once again proven correct.
No logic found in above comment to compare with this story. Feels for the other four idiots who liked the comment.😊
To the enablers who downplay Neely's conduct on that night, I say: Yes, he did threaten the entire train car of people. His words have been reported by witnesses. Try again. He committed no less than 3 crimes that night, one of which was "Making A Threat To Cause Mass Harm" NY Penal Law 240.78. And it does NOT matter that he was unable to carry out his threats--under the law. He was stopped before he could carry them out. By declaring and yelling, "I want food. I want money. I'm gonna get it. I'll hurt anyone on this train. I don't care if I gotta get life in jail!"...he threatened the entire train car. Unless you believe (and some of you enablers do sound dumb enough to, honestly) that Neely meant getting life in jail for dropping a candy wrapper on the ground.
Everything is justified if you're black poor and oppressed. They erre being white amd RRRRRRICH as all us white ppl are.... so no harm done just give your wallet quit complaining
Before he was killed, Neely said, "I don't care if I die. I don't care if I go to jail. I don't have any food ... I'm done," according to Vazquez.
Why do you feel the need to embellish? He was choked for 7 minutes. The marie could have stopped at any point.
@@Ccc-ru7oe why do you feel the need to conveniently forget two other people felt the need to engage Neely. I'm sure you would have included that if all three where white.
@@Ccc-ru7oe by which he put him in the recovery position waited until the cops came explained the situation. Btw, neely died in the hospital not on the subway
@@Ccc-ru7oe not only that but marines are definitely trained how to restrain someone without killing them.
I think a big possibility here, that no one is talking about - the marine was triggered by Neely. I have PTSD and one of my worst triggers is ppl yelling.
Just try to imagine this marine's unit hitting an explosive device in their tank and the amount of yelling that would happen right after the blast (in part because they still haven't regained full hearing after) as they struggle to gather up survivors and assist them. This exact thing happened to one of my marine friends.
I ain't even hating on the marine guy. Lord knows mental healthcare is completely ignored in this country and I don't see any way to fix this without universal healthcare. Houseless ppl don't have access to Medicaid. You need an address to get on that. The VA is practically useless with PTSD.
Neely CHOSE violence. He was in NYC, where shoplifters and looters are given free reign. He could've walked into any supermarket or store and walked out with a years' supply of food. Instead, he reverted to his natural instinct, which was to threaten and assault innocent people. YES, he would've assaulted someone...had he not been stopped. His rap sheet and violent past proves that. Violence was ALL he knew how to do. He lived violently...and died violently. Period.
Correct!
This guy knows what’s up
JULIE111100 and penny is going to know what's up when he is getting BBC every night in prison.
Charles Murray wrote "Losing Ground' using most all the studies from 1960-1980, working thru what we can learn from them. The main take away was that the elite was throwing money at a problem that LOOKED like the most compassionate answer, but ACTUALLY rewarded the wrong behavior, so the most rational thing to do was the worst choice for the person's future. He updated it for 2015, adding that the only way to help would take the elite admitting they were wrong- so he had little hope for us. As here, the elite ACTUALLY expects the ones to pay the REAL, daily costs are the responsible poor so the irresponsible get to take what they want from THEM while the elite get the applause
I like this Dude, Malcolm Flex! Another reasonable Black Man Telling the Truth! We need more of this!
Love how they always say we don’t have all the facts when the video is out…
Where is this video that shows the WHOLE incident?
Video isn’t out it’s just a tiny clip
We don’t have all the facts. I said it again for you since you love it!
We have eyewitnesses from the train who said Neely was acting erratically but posed no threat. They said he didn't physically attack or assault anyone on that train.
Great interview, subject matter expert input helps with perspective of what occurred.
As my parents use to say, a person is smart, a bunch of people are sytupid. Heard mentality is the worse thing we have in humanity, it prevents the inability of self thinking.
I couldn't agree more
Malcolm is a real man !!!
He's a African immigrant ... He's not a foundational black American. That black African isn't nothing like me or my people.
Just because someone has brown skin don't mean they are the same . .... We aren't Africans
@@TheHoodVoice2024 lol your not a very smart guy, did you vote for Biden ? Come on man tell us ???
@@MAB1907 you weirdos with this political sh!t . It's so obvious when im talking to a 🐷 that didn't grow up around blk Americans. First Explain to me "smart guy" how does the group that only makes 15% of the population. Determines who's the president. Go ahead. I thought you were smart .
If you don't like the president go Storm the capital
@@MAB1907 I'm very smart, whytes can't tell the difference between Africans and black Americans. Their opinion doesn't represent my community.. If the marine isn't arrested NYC business owners will regret it
Malcolm is a bootlick.
Would love to see Malcolm Flex v. Brandon Clown in an MMA fight!
This young man is well spoken!!!! God Bless Him!!!!!
What would make you think otherwise?
@@legoat8818 DON"T bring race into it! BOTT
@@greg2976 never mentioned race, u did. Thanks be honest now we know what u meant by your comment
@@legoat8818 Thank you so much for pointing out the inner raciest of me that I never knew I had!🤣🤣😂😂👍👍
@@greg2976 👏
Why is no one asking for the toxicity levels in Neely's system? Why is the coroner silent on this? I am willing to bet that guy was high as a kite. Yet NOT A WORD on what was found in his system. They have to have this information and if they are not releasing it it has to be because there is exculpatory evidence otherwise they would be flaunting that his system was clean, which we all know 99.9% that was not the case.
Really this has nothing to do with race.
Here in philly the closer they get to the 2 stops where the drugs are on Kensington Avenue, the more loud ,obnoxious, aggressive they become.. im sure ny is the same as here where we have ppl feeding them several times a day, #1 there are organizations that feed them 3x @day and theres volunteers from 6am thru midnight dropping off food to them.. in short the panhandling junkies on our trains are NOT starving!! Jordan was NOT starving. He was in withdrawal
That is accurate.
This is an actual “Bonfire of the Vanities “.
Find yourself in threatening or violent situations? 1) Don't intervene. Just keep your video going and record it. 2) If intervening be sure to take the first stab wound, gunshot wound or blunt force injury before acting. 3) If intervening, be sure you do not harm the perpetrator before knowing whether or not he's homeless. If he's homeless, you will end up in prison.
@Greg B Keep fantasizing.
@Greg B OK.OK. If the perp was armed with an Uzi the action would have been different. Probably inaction. Let me add step #4) Assess the likelihood of your intervention succeeding.
@Greg B Bye. it's been fun. Haven't run into a troll for while now.
I don't think it's something to do with race. it's all about people are fed up with homeless and criminals out on the street. people are fed up with this lawless city. it's a tipping point. just saying and no offense to anyone.
This is America. Jordan had the right to assault someone else and break another nose. His rights were violated. I’m disappointed.
Glad to hear some one speak out
Someone
The blind misleading the blind!!!
Love it how he says they are pushing a narrative and starts pushing a narrative.
You can restrain without killing.
There's a video of this guy from 2011 dressed up as Michael Jackson attacking youtuber Joey Boots just for telling him a MJ joke, he has been violent for a long time.
Divide & conquer is what's happening to America
If the chokeholder was black,there would have been no protests.
I keep trying to find the full vid of this confrontation. Getting crazy cant trust mainstream media.
Neely died in a hospital. He was alive. What happened in the hospital?
Interesting and important detail. I have not heard about that yet!
This is a very smart man!
I think he died of drug poisoning and not the choke hold. 😾 I wanna see toxicology reports . .
Like Fentanyl Floyd
@@goldbud2287 yes !
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
Very good show thank you. Yes remember the devil takes care of his own my friend the devil take care of his own.. His ideas make it where it's fun to be evil and disturb. Anyone? With any sense you can see this whole thing is like a war between good and evil. It's sort of like reading a really bad book. But you can't put it down because you don't know what the ending is. God speed!!
Will NY end up pinning a charge on him for "not providing immediate CPR" after being the"main culprit" to an unresponsive person? And then will NY be able to charge the other passengers that watched with grounds based in Good Samaritan Law?🤔
TRUMPAMARICA 2024 CAN MAKE AMERICA 🇺🇸 SAFE AGAIN.
Rather Kennedy
why does every ex athlete think they need to be a politician now?
If this man goes to jail we are all not safe to defend ourselves.
How can you be on set of a media platform speaking and accusing the media with the media? Someone make this all make since. Who is really pulling our strings?
That marine is taking all the heat and backlash that the State deserves, they're the ones who failed the people of NY by putting everyone in this situation. This is what happens when authorities do nothing and people are forced to defend themselves while the politicians sit on their high horses and and play the blame game as if they care. If they had to commute on the subway let alone sit in that cart they would've been grateful for someone like Daniel Penny the way the people on that train were. Ironically if everyone sat there and minded their own business, let the guy yell and escalate, social media would be erupting with fury because no one stood up to him.
Does anyone have any links to Malcolm Flex's MMA fights, I would like to check them out
This!!! Glad someone has said it
Deborah Lewis
well i'm not surprised a weave wearing self hating "independent" woman is coming to the marine's defense. Yet you still can't get a white man to marry you because they just want you for s*x.
Remove the guessing by showing the transit footage.
WELL… let this be a lesson to you KARENS out there! ‼️
In the words of Candace Owens… YOU ARE NEXT!
She told off a KAREN that went off on people and threatened a police officer in the airport… then after being reprimanded by Candace the KAREN asked Candace isn’t she BLACK… lol SMDH! Then the KAREN pulled the mental illnesses card! Typical!
Explain 3 dudes on a 120 pound man you don’t make sense. Smh
UFC is a national Treasure
he isnt in the ufc lol hes trash
You call it a battle strategy divide and conquer
If Neely was on drugs, it could have made him stronger & less sensitive to pain & be an even more very difficult, very dangerous person to contain. 2 Other people saw how difficult he was & attempted to assist containing him until the police arrived. Did Neely’s own movement & activity cause his neck to be more effected than was intented, meant to be? It appears Neely was totally out of it.
It is too bad Neely didn’t get the help he needed & wasn’t institutionalize if he again & again was found to be a danger to himself or others. NYC failed him knowing his history & mental illness etc. His mother should go after NYC & apologize to all on the train effected by her son’s threatening, scary behavior, including to Daniel Penny for all the trauma her son has caused him. Daniel Penny was protecting lives. It is too bad it took so long for the police to arrive on the scene. No one knows how many lives on that train would have been hurt or come to an end if Daniel Penny had not stopped Neely.
Be funny if someone jumps down and hits the third rail
Bet you anything it's just like George. If you are on opiates your respiratory system is already depressed. No one is truly at fault in either case except the broken system.
Thank You for your honesty Malcolm, and you're right. Most people talking about this incident do not know the law (including the media) and do not know the facts of the case....I agree the about the chokehold. It did not look that deep....In fact, it looked more like Daniel was trying to hold him than choke him.
Exactly
If it wasn't that deep - the guy would still be alive.
I can't believe conservatives pride themselves on being "good Christians". So much for turning the other cheek, eh?
Its so annoying seeing so many people thinking every black person needs saving.
It all depends on whether the marine acted out of self defense or out of anger
Marine didn't act in self defense especially when a person walks away only to be placed in a choke hold, held down by two other cowards and MURDERED!.
Former MMA fighter? What were there no former Dunkin Donuters available?
Toxicology report!?! We got George Floyd’s tox report. And what did it accomplish? NOTHING.
Having drugs in your system doesn't warrant capital punishment.
IF ANYONE HAS A HARD TIME RECognzing evil, then they are blind. evil is alwayss evil. humans are evil. and you can see who are the evil humans. thou shalt not lie . we see now why lying is the worst sin in life.
He would be alive if show up for court and accept jail time with mental health treatment that was a reason arrest warrant was issued
I'm tired of seeing only half of the video.
I want to see the FULL VIDEO which led up to this incident.🤨
This MMA fighter would agree, a full Nelson would have worked and he would be alove
Interviewing MMA fighter really. We’re is the Lawyer ?
Dummy readin prompter 😂😂
Thank you if we all thought like this guess what we would get along better
We need to pay attention to all the random train derailments happening in our country
that train should of kept on
He said proactive defense 😂
Let’s send billions to Ukraine instead of helping our own with housing, medical care, food, clothes etc etc let’s vote Biden - Clinton - Pelosi etc etc 🧠 if you want more of this
Involuntary manslaughter
The 13%
Hey family members of this man.... Remember when you sue that he was homeless!!! You don't get a cut! Rest of you protestors get a job. If he was in jail where he belonged he would have been alive. Blame the justice system!!!! Had he pushed someone on the tracks there would have been no protest.... It would have been mental illness.
Exactly! Judge, jury and executioner military style. Sorry Libs, Oooooorah! MAGA!!
@@magaman911 America is already great!!!! It's sh*tty people who f*ck it up for everyone else! Especially the greedy ones!!!
Not familiar with NYC subways. Is there still a 3rd rail? (electric)
Criminals protesting ! That’s who these people are !
"Y'know?" "You know?" Malcolm needs a voice coach, you know?
If you know ya know.😃
@@oxyfee6486 And for the record, I KNOW ... I'M not speaking into a camera but ... sigh. Could be Abraham Lincoln giving a speech but if he has something hanging out his nose, that's all you can see. Geeze, I don't even recall what the hell he said but know it was good!
@@mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976 👈This guy knows.
Hey New York citizens you want this crap now? Well when you finally wake up, don't move my area.