Marvel Rivals is NOT Overwatch Killer

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  • @Raelyn
    @Raelyn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Nah. I don't like OW2 because I think Blizzard are highly incompetent. They don't stand by any of their design choices, the amount of reworks certain characters in the game have had is mind boggling. They know they got incredibly lucky when designing a hero like Tracer, because they've never needed to do anything with her aside from minor tweaks and bug fixes. Most other heroes get absurd changes and reworks constantly.
    Also, one reason why 5v5 is worse than 6v6 is that they removed a key role that helped limit Widowmaker. Since the game's inception she has been a cancer, and OW2 only made it worse. It's crazy how well the Rival's devs understood this and made Black Widow feel way fairer in comparison both in her design, and just the overwhelming amount of mobility in the game in comparison to OW.
    I'm not telling you that Rivals doesn't have balancing issues. Hela, Luna, Mantis and Hawkeye are all definite problems at the moment. But I legit find the game more fun as it stands, and I don't think it's fair to say that Rivals will have the exact same balance philosophy when we haven't seen their first balance patch yet.
    As far as I'm concerned I think the only thing Overwatch has over Rivals in every respect is optimization. The game runs like absolute butter, and that can't be denied. But other than that, I would much rather play Rivals over OW, and that is not due to new game bias. Some super fun kit ideas in heroes like Magik, Spidey, Iron Fist etc compared to aids shit like Orisa, Mauga, Sombra, etc. Has arguably has one of the most talented art teams I've seen in a long time, tanking to me feels fixed in Rivals compared to OW (where it's just fucking misery and you can't do anything), but I think the number one thing for me just has to be the devs.
    At this point I fucking despise Blizzard. They are known liars on so many fronts, involved in numerous controversies, clearly don't play their own game (their devs peaked in gold, Rivals devs were farming Necros/Flats on stream), and are greedy as fuck. OW2 should have never been created and I will forever believe that. They deserve to crash and burn, and I'm glad Rivals is here to give them competition. Their dev team so far seem passionate and care a lot about the product. I had optimism for OW once, but it died after what Blizzard did to it. As it stands I'm choosing to support the game that looks like it has a future.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Raelyn thats cool that you like Rivals more and I know what you’re saying, but still ow is a good game if it matches your gameplay preferences. For example you don’t like OW because you don’t like Mauga, Orisa which are currently meta, and I like Overwatch because I like to play Mauga from time to time and I have no problems with playing against him. It’s all just preferences and that why non of these games will kill each other. There won’t be a moment where suddenly 80% of ow players will completely leave ow for Rivals and vice versa. Unless Blizzard REALLY decides to destroy their own game with like fr absolutely tragic hero / gameplay changes and thats why I’m scared of their recent thinking about bringing back 6v6. With all heroes we have rn and current small problems with balancing the game I can’t believe Blizzard can bring back 6v6 which is gonna be well balanced. It might be even worse than 5v5 during its first days after launch of ow2, but we’ll see
      Oh and btw, I’m blizzard hater as well. I just like the game itself and I think its good, but blizzard as a company is absolutely fucking tragic. At least the blizzard we have for the last like 5 years. The old blizzard that used to be led by Jeff Kaplan at the launch of ow1 was actually peak

    • @skorpers
      @skorpers 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have different developers than they did in 2014 when the game was beginning to leave its alpha/beta stage.
      As do they have different management than they did pre 2020. You're blaming people who weren't there for not being able to follow the same choices.
      If you have a problem with where overwatch is headed, stop throwing tantrums in other peoples comment sections and trying to force your choices on other people.
      If you care about it, submit actual concise feedback, if you don't care, just go and stop coming back to overwatch communities trying to convince other people.
      Marvel rivals is unfinished despite having beta testing, I don't need to write 30 pages to explain why a game that doesn't even have basic FPS functionality and consistency down is somehow a competitor to an actual finished, and refined game with many QoL updates over the years. As well as not struggling to meet the bare minimum of acceptable performance.

  • @OnlyTidus
    @OnlyTidus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    stockholm syndrome, sunk cost fallacy

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@OnlyTidus soo REAL!!

    • @mahino420
      @mahino420 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      HAHHAHAHHAHA such a based comment from a my little pony pfp

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mahino420 let him cook 🗣️🔥🔥😭

  • @SmGTwist
    @SmGTwist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Overwatch just had the rotten luck of being the brainchild of one of the worst developer on the market. Speaking as an OW1 fan, Blizzard kept slapping my face again and again and again. I know when I'm being abused, and Blizzard is one of the most abusive companies to its players and consumers.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmGTwist as a og too, I think blizzard might be even the worst game company ever. They are def one of the worst

    • @Zakon673
      @Zakon673 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am no Blizzard apologist, but speaking purely about this comparison between OW and Rivals, Netease is so much worse than Blizzard. In fact I'm upset I'm enjoying Rivals as much as I am because I have no faith in Netease as a company. Trust me that if Rivals ever starts to drop off in popularity, they will begin far more predatory practices than Blizzard ever did in an attempt to begin milking whales as far as they are able.

  • @amonster1896
    @amonster1896 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    OW is sorry asf i feel bad for this guy

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amonster1896 I love ow and it’s not blind glazing. The game itself is just great. Only blizzard as a company is not cool at all after all of their false promises

    • @amonster1896
      @amonster1896 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Skyblue_ttv yes that's what make the game ass but instead of yall weirdo fans not playing it to force it to either die or become better you choose to gain cancer playing ow

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amonster1896 ? We play the game cause we love it and because it’s good. You really think we are forcing ourselves to play that game? Cmon bro. If we didn’t like the game we would just quit.

    • @amonster1896
      @amonster1896 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Skyblue_ttv sounds like a load of crap to me and I'm a guy who used to force myself to play games i loved ow is a mess and I really feel bad for ow fans

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amonster1896 it's just preferences. If you don't like the game then just don't play it, but don't say that it's a bad game only because you don't like it.

  • @19vaida87
    @19vaida87 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    can't kill something, that's already dead...

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@19vaida87 facts, but ow is actually not dead.

    • @admin-nimda
      @admin-nimda 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      whiners will whine. Keep whining as OW thrive

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@admin-nimda blizzard is actually slowly improving ow so let’s let them cook. They won’t make ow as good as it used to be in ow1 but I believe they can make that game way better than it is rn

    • @geniexyz
      @geniexyz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@admin-nimdaOverwatch is not thriving if you had eyeballs you would see that

    • @jakobethan6399
      @jakobethan6399 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Skyblue_ttv why are you accepting dogshit from this company, why has everyone's standards lowered so much that this game gets a pass...Blizzard doesn't deserve to still have their game thrive after they shot their fanbase in the head. Overwatch 1 is one of my favorite games of all time, and I refuse to acknowledge the absolute embarrassing corporate greed of OW2 that OW1 died for.

  • @Dinos4829
    @Dinos4829 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This has to be rage bait

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Dinos4829 it’s not. It’s just truth and truth often hurts 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @Zakon673
    @Zakon673 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I will never agree that you should purely balance around pros. That's how you get characters who are totally worthless and throw picks at low skill levels just because they've got a high skill/coordination reliant ability that has the potential to make them overpowered at high ranks. Symmetra is an example of this. You also get pubstomper characters who are oppressive at low skill levels just because they're "fine" at high skill levels.
    As for the Rivals vs Overwatch comparison, I actually never enjoyed Overwatch that much. I got it on launch day in 2016 and never got what other people saw in it. I like playing some characters so I intermittently came back to it, but I get tired of it quickly and have to put it down again. Plus I find the majority of the cast infuriating to play against. Rivals I actually went into not wanting to like it because I don't like Netease, but... I am genuinely having so much fun and I can't stop the urge to keep playing it.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Zakon673 the thing is, when you balance heroes based on pros feedback they will be balanced for people who know how to play that game. And as you said some heroes that are harder to play will be considered throw picks in low elo, but not because character is underperforming in that rank, but because player who plays that character hasn’t learned it yet and it makes sense, because if you want to get a higher rank, you should improve at the game and your heroes. Other wise now you have brainded Sojourn mains in plat who carry games only because Soj is op so they don’t even need to be good at her and on pro level soj is just extremely op and destroys the entire game both for players and people who watch Overwatch esports. I can’t explain it better than that :/

    • @Zakon673
      @Zakon673 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttv I agree with you, but I think they did a good job with Sojourn. I am far from a high skill player but I think she feels totally fine now. I am able to play her to a decent level and I see other Sojourns I encounter seem to do well. To my knowledge, she's also fine at high ranks.
      The kind of characters I'm more worried about are characters who can totally dominate low skill lobbies and they get away with it because in high skill lobbies they're weak. Junkrat is a pretty great example of what I mean, I think. Or again, characters like Symmetra who have a potentially broken power if used in high skill groups, which necessitates the rest of their kit to be kept weak, totally screwing over people who just wanna play the character because they think they're cool.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Zakon673 soj is nice now. She is still really strong, but she’s not op. She just needs a small changes to make her again more of a rail gun hero, rather than soldier like hero, but it’s not sth that is like really necessary. Same with Mauga. He, just like soj, was completely broken at the launch, but blizzard is slowly balancing him really well. They still make a lot of questionable balance changes, which now all people who quit ow for Marvel Rivals, bring as a reason why OW is a terrible game, but they are just overexaggerating (especially when we are talking about orisa buff). Like those trash balance changes are really not a big of a deal. Casual ow players are just mad at blizzard for literally everything nowadays and even if Blizzard would buff Orisa again and give her just +1hp more, everyone would again start to meltdown and trash talk blizzard that this buff just completely destroyed ow and now orisa is even more op. Like cmon xDDDD

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Zakon673 and I’m not even joking with that Orisa buff. People just hate orisa cuz they don’t know how to play against her. And fun fact, Orisa in high elo and pro play is quite bad, but ppl in lower ranks instead of learning how to play against her (which btw is really easy) prefer to just blame blizzard for every single small buff they give her that literally doesn’t even make any difference for high elo players

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It is really fun for me. Tanking feels so much better than in OW2 for me. Been playing a lot of Captain America, I love the movement mechanics of him.
    For those wanting to know why 6v6 and open are better, I'll explain:
    More players means more team building options.
    No locked roles means more hero choice, more diverse teams, and faster queues.
    Its the same reason OW classic was such a breath of fresh air.
    Blizzard reminded me of the game I fell in love with, then MR came out and reminded me that other games can be that fun.
    Enjoy your shitty version of OW.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fettbub92 you right, but at the same time all of your arguments why 6v6 and no role lock are better is a downside, because more players on your team means that you have one more person that can throw your game and make it harder for you to solo carry. And no role lock means people will troll, pick 6 dpss and these type of things. This is the part most of OG overwatch players, that now complain about 5v5, don’t remember

    • @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289
      @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Give it time you'll go back on that. Tanks in Rivals have literally no play making ability, their damage is far too low and have no burst damage whatsoever outside of Magneto's secondary fire. Pretty much their only role in the game is just being meat-slabs. The only thing holding back OW2's tank gameplay from being better is the fact that there is only 1 tank but that might change soon.
      But other than that both support and DPS are way better in Rivals imo

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 play making is more than just getting elims. Tanks in this game have so much utility to function as they need. It reminds me more of old overwatch, and the kit combos thay could be used. Either comboing abilities or playstyles.

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttv you will always have the risk of throwers or "bad teammates." No game format can fix that. Maybe stay away from multiplayer games if you cant stand playing with others.

    • @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289
      @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ That would be fine if Rivals wasn’t so heavy on sustainability. If you are a tank and you get say one of the supports isolated there is still a very low chance of you killing them by yourself.
      Realistically speaking the only thing keeping Rivals from falling into a complete sustainfest where nothing ever dies is the lack of a support like Brigitte. If the devs ever cave in and add a support that is similar to Brigitte we’re gonna see a meta similar to double shield in OW

  • @DanielHorn-u8i
    @DanielHorn-u8i 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    overwatch is already in a coma and on life support but blizzard aint pulling the plug just yet

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DanielHorn-u8i they prolly won’t and they’re actually trying to slowly fix the game. It won’t be as great as it used to be, but I hope they at least make it better than it is rn

  • @REMOVEMAUGAFROMTHEGAMENOW
    @REMOVEMAUGAFROMTHEGAMENOW 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice video bro!!! :P

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@REMOVEMAUGAFROMTHEGAMENOW thank you so much! Btw I love your yt name 😂😂🔥🔥🔥

  • @carverwilliams3304
    @carverwilliams3304 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    rivals is unbalanced and chaotic and thats why its fun. but its unbalanced and chaotic. after a couple games it gets old especially when people just start playing only the broken characters. then you see why overwatch is so strict with balancing. although overwatch still sucks at balancing and everything else they do, marvel rivals isnt gonna kill the game. marvel rivals is a straight up copy as well its a little ridiculous like im suprised there isnt some kinda lawsuit. even tho overwatch is essentially a copy of tf2 they still feel like different games. rivals feels like overwatch with mods or some shit

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carverwilliams3304 the funniest thing people say is that they love Rivals for having unbalanced heroes, but at the same time the main reason they hate overwatch is because it has unbalanced heroes 🤣🤣🤣
      Like it just completely doesn’t make sense. It’s like changing only the cover of a book while leaving the entire story the same and then coping that now its better 🤣

    • @carverwilliams3304
      @carverwilliams3304 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ i feel like overwatch fans dont even know what they want and they just hate losing. like i agree some characters and mechanics were broken and made things too one sided but thats kinda the point of a hero shooter. its like rock paper scissors. if your a rock tryna fight paper your gonna lose. although i feel like the only way to make mechanics like that work is to give every character some way to survive or escape if they are good enough so its the better player who wins instead of whoever was lucky enough to choose the right class for the occasion

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carverwilliams3304 people who say that Overwatch 2 is trash are either:
      - people who hate Blizzard and carry the hate in the game itself, when the game is still really good and all of those blizzard PVE promises have nothing to do with normal ow gameplay
      - people who are either terrible at the game or pro gamers. Trash players are mad that certain hero like lets say Hog is op, because they just don’t know how to play against him and pros are mad because at pro level everyone only plays mauga cause hes meta and even though its not the worst meta overwatch has ever had, it is still not really fun at all
      Edit: and to be clear I’m not hating on anyone. These are just a real reasons and I know that because I also was a trash at overwatch and even now I sometimes play like an idiot, I also used to be a low tier pro gamer who played in many tournaments and scrims, and I also used to be a coach who was coaching both grandmaster teams and individual gm / top500 players, so I know literally almost everything about this game. Not to mention that I’ve been playing it since release of ow1 which was 8, almost 9, years ago

    • @BigPro1123
      @BigPro1123 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      If I could describe rivals it would be the “random bullshit go” meme. It just feels like spamming all your abilities once you get them up making it super chaotic. OW feels like you need to plan what to do a lot more making it feel more strategic.

    • @carverwilliams3304
      @carverwilliams3304 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ yeah, most abilities in rivals are super buggy or cancel if you move the movement joystick. and some of them have such awful descriptions it looks like they translated it from a different language or something.

  • @Relectro151
    @Relectro151 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blizzard had and has so much potential with all the lore and stuff that it just baffles me that they chose not to go through with pve.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Relectro151 I came up with idea like 3-4 years ago that they should make overwatch animated series on Netflix instead of ow2, cuz no one was asking for ow2, but everyone was asking for overwatch movie since the game release. And now when I look at it after all of that shit happened and after seeing how much Arcane succeeded, if they actually made those series they would not only not let down their entire fan base either ow2 and pve mess, but they would actually really hype and reward current players, bring a lot of new players to the game and also they would make so much money if they kept the quality of their original hero cinematics and not make it like the ones we have rn which are more comic style like their old series of “Original Story”

  • @iProphetYT
    @iProphetYT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this comment is for engagement

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iProphetYT haha. W Prophet!

  • @kemoree
    @kemoree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The amount of cope in this video is insane, your take at the end was absolutely idiotic, claming if someone doesnt like any aspects of overwatch, then they just must not like shooter games. I have friends who would never touch overwatch with a ten foot pole that love rivals, they're two completely different games and this whole argument of one killing the other is just dumb, repetitive and annoying. Who knows if rivals will die? Who really cares? People are having fun with it now and thats what matters. People are out here defending overwatch as if the developers havent been the laziest sacks of shit ever that clearly dont even understand their OWN game, but sure, if you really have a boner for ow keep playing it, no one is forcing anyone to play anything else. These types of videos have just gotten so repetitive and bothersome, just stfu and play your game.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kemoree damn, chill out lil guy. These videos are just personal opinios and we should respect other ppl opinions even if we don’t agree with them. Nothing I said in this video is a cope, it’s all facts. When it comes to the part where I said that ppl who don’t like any aspect of ow won’t like Rivals, I meant that if people don’t like getting bullied on ranked, or they don’t like the game when balancing is not favoring their fav heroes then they probably* won’t like Marvel Rivals too, cuz Rivals will have the same problems in the future once people learn how to play the game and will start to abuse strongest heroes.

    • @gerardol3449
      @gerardol3449 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "The amount of cope in this video is insane"
      *proceeds to write one of the most cope fueled comments I've ever read

  • @qniquma
    @qniquma 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    coming from someone who doesn't really play hero shooters but have played both, feel like overwatch's lifespan has both been prolonged and neglected by blizzard and it would take smth like another company to actually make overwatch stand on its own again
    since the main gripe against overwatch anyways is how the company treated it, and what the devs are doing in rivals felt like a breath of fresh air
    overwatch did kind of fell off but went into some sort of hibernation when the pve was announced, which was probably what kept it alive for a bit.
    but genuinely overwatch should be developed by another company and not blizzard, y'all deserve better honestly

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@qniquma if riot or fortnite epic games overtook ow, it would’ve been peak game. And they would’ve made ow series which everyone has been asking for since literally first days of ow1. If blizzard actually made Arcane like ow series instead of making PVE which we didn’t get anyways, they would not only make a lot of money, but they would bring a lot of new players to the game and please their curret fanbase.

  • @BigPro1123
    @BigPro1123 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I swear marvel rivals players and OW players act like they can’t play both. They will be back to OW once they get burnt out playing the same game every day like it’s a job and not for fun. They should try playing multiple games and realize that they are just burnt out and not that the game is trash. Both games are good. People are glazing rivals too much and they will see it’s flaws and bullshit once everyone gets better at the game and metas start to form.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @BigPro1123 finally someone gets it. Meanwhile I’m getting hated in the comments for defending ow because people are mad at blizzard for Kiriko skins, when they have nothing to do with gameplay which was the topic of that video 😂

  • @Matix94
    @Matix94 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello your computer has virus

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Matix94 please nooo!! 😭😭😭🙏🏻😂

  • @giulianokurtulaj7682
    @giulianokurtulaj7682 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    killing overwatch only right now because its new but once people get super competitive and start hating going against unbalanced hero’s it will just lose all the magic it had on launch and feel just as overly competitive and day ruining as an overwatch match

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@giulianokurtulaj7682 exactly. Marvel Rivals gonna run into literally the same problems as Overwatch, but it just needs time. Once ppl learn the game, suddenly some hero’s will become op and ppl will complain that Marvel Rivals also has bad balancing etc. But we’ll see which direction Marvel devs will go

    • @iProphetYT
      @iProphetYT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      so true. launch hype will prob fade

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iProphetYT yep, once people realize that some ppl who knows how to play marvel rivals can suddenly make some heroes op, they will stop saying that Rivals is better than overwatch because of the game balancing and will either still play Rivals with less fun, quit both games or just go back to ow

  • @jordanglover792
    @jordanglover792 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    OW is much more team oriented, and rivals is more individual. Rivals is more casually balanced and OW is more comp. I think the start of 5v5 made overwatch worse, not cuz 5v5 is worse, could totally work. But 5v5 inherently makes the game more individual based than team, i mean you take away an entire tank. They play totally different. If OW can just get their shit together and move to 6v6 or change to benefit 5v5. Also doesn’t help they made the game free, no hate just more casual players and no one talks in chat anymore.
    OW isn’t a bad game, it just feels like it lost itself somewhere. There are FAR worse games and most games dont measure up to OW. It’s become bandwagon hate. Like they do a lot right, imo more right than wrong, esp in the last year.
    Also ik pve was cancelled, but not counting, only counting game design here

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jordanglover792 you are literally the first person who understands the real reasons why 5v5 ow2 failed. People keep saying that ow2 sucks because we only get kiriko skins, or because blizzard didn’t give us pve, but cmon bro, those things doesn’t affect the gameplay of ow2 and it doesn’t make it a bad game.
      And also you are the first person that finally see the problem with ow2 being free to play. I’ve said it so many times - Overwatch being ftp is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) reasons why ow2 is worse than ow1. Because of it, now we only have kiriko skins cause they need to make money, we don’t have lootboxes which were giving a player huge motivation to play the game, especially arcade modes during events to grind new skin. Now events are just a main screen skin background change, you don’t feel like we have any events happening and since they removed lootboxes I haven’t touched arcade for one and it was such a breath of fresh air to stop playing only ranked, to jump into arcade and play Junkerstein Revenge to chill from tryharding, get a new lootboxes and to get new event skins. Also ftp ow brought more smurfs or cheaters cuz now you can literally infinitely make new accounts if your main gets banned. And imo probably the biggest reason why ow2 is less fun than ow1 - players / community. Just like u said, now literally noone uses voice chat in game and thats what made ow1 soo fun, cuz in ow1 you would have 3-6 ppl in voice in literally every single game and also those ppl back then were actually super chill, funny and they just wanted to have fun even on ranked. It literally felt like u were constantly playing with friends even though you played with randoms and playing with friends is always way more fun and less annoying than playing solo

  • @siggspi
    @siggspi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I’m currently playing both Rivals casually with friends and Overwatch for competitive. While I’m having fun with both, Overwatch is undeniably the more polished game. Switching back to Overwatch after an hour of Rivals feels like going from rough edges to smooth butter.
    That said, I don’t see Rivals having the same staying power as Overwatch. As players start taking Rivals more seriously, I think its flaws will become more apparent.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@siggspi thats exactly what I’m saying. And I still don’t understand people who say that Rivals is better than overwatch, because Rivals is unbalanced, when their reason why they left Overwatch 2 is that it was unbalanced lmao
      It’s like if they had a book called Overwatch 2, said that its content is trash, then took off just the Overwatch 2 book cover while leaving the same content, then put Marvel Rivals book cover on it and now call it better xD

  • @gnagflow1001
    @gnagflow1001 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think they are complettely fine to co-exist. I want nothing but the best for Overwatch AND Marvel Rivals. I want both to suceed and learn from each other as long as it benefits the consumer. I think Marvel Rivals has the chance to really take off i they keep the momentum.
    OW is fun as long as you dont play it too much, Rivals is the same.
    OW is incredibly polished... but its also not really doing anything right now? Like content nowadays FEELS like its mostly just skins. I know its FACTUALLY not true but i dunno mostly what you see is just content in forms of cosmetics (which are always good)

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gnagflow1001 you cooked well my friend. I won’t play Rivals cuz it’s not my vibe, but I hope they succeed and won’t make the same mistakes as Blizzard, but we’ll see

  • @deddowaddo6443
    @deddowaddo6443 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    overwatch is frustrating and unbalanced. The meta doesn't give any room to have fun and the players are some of the most toxic people ever. Yeah, a lot of people are looking at marvel rivals with rose tinted glasses but at this time with the current state of both games I would still say overwatch is bad. This is my personal opinion but the fun in overwatch was killed when mauga was released and became a constant game of counterswapping instead of being a fun video game. It is tedious and hellish to play right now.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@deddowaddo6443 and toxicity was caused by making ow free to play. When ow was a paid game you had more ppl in vc and all literally almost all of them were really cool, chill and funny. Now you only have one person on vc which won’t say a word for entire game and only will trash talk you at the end. When it comes to Mauga thing and overall game balancing, it’s not bad especially if you are playing ranked solo and you are good at the game and understand the basics of the game. But if you don’t have good gamesense or you play scrims as a pro, then Mauga is really strong.

  • @waynetec13
    @waynetec13 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only thing that can kill Overwatch is Overwatch.
    Rivals isn't a threat to the core players of Overwatch. It's an entirely different game, really.
    High ELO OW isn't in too much trouble. Low to mid level OW will suffer from smaller player pools,because casual players who are only looking for hero fantasy will likely switch.
    Calling anything an Overwatch killer is like calling any shooter a CS:GO killer or a CoD killer.
    The biggest problem Rivals poses to Overwatch is stealing MARKET SHARE, and Blizz making less from the cash shop. But don't worry, Kiri will get a new skin every 2 weeks from now until the end of time.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@waynetec13 facts. Marvel rivals is a better game only for casual gamers who play all games just for fun, or for people that are really mad at blizzard. Most of the regular overwatch players won’t switch to Rivals

    • @waynetec13
      @waynetec13 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttvI'd imagine Blizzards biggest fear is that the top level content creators may switch over. The "Big guys" like Flats, Emongg, etc can shift attention easily.
      I feel like several of them are drinking up the free content and views right now, but only time will tell if some of them make the jump.
      Honestly, as someone who was a die hard OW fan since closed beta, and is now loving Rivals, my biggest fear right now is the OW community complaining that Rivals isn't OW.
      To the OW fans: If you want to play a game like OW, then PLAY OW, don't try to force Rivals to be OW. Allow them to fill different niches.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@waynetec13 tbh I think most of the biggest ow content creators won’t switch to Marvel Rivals. They can do that and it would really profit their growth as content creators, but Rivals is not as hard and complex as ow so they will get bored really fast. But if they decide to swap to Marvel Rivals I will be thankful cause that means now it’s gonna be easier for me to become the new generation of biggest ow content creators and I have huge plans for content and not only sitting on my fat ass and complaining about the game 24/7. I’m gonna be honest, current ow content creators are boring af and thats one of the reasons why I decided to become ow content creator. I want to bring back the old era of fun ow content that actually made many’s people love to overwatch better (me included). So if they want to swap, I won’t mind, especially cuz I know it would benefit both mine and their growth as a content creator so its a win win

    • @waynetec13
      @waynetec13 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttv I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree that Rivals isn't as hard or complicated as OW. Right now, it's the wild west. As the community plays more, strengths, special interactions, and more will come about. Think back to the launch of OW 1. That gameplay looks insanely simple compared to today's gameplay. Not even figuring the extra mechanics added to the game since launch, we've managed to juice the heroes for every drop of skill expression. It'll happen in Rivals, too. It's already started with the introduction of comp.
      The high level guys (not me, I'm an old guy with slow reflexes and bad eyes, and even worse aim.) are already talking about how certain skills and strategies become useless at the higher levels of gameplay. The pub stompers become throw picks, and the more complex interactions have more value. I feel like, if the community toxicity doesn't ruin one or the other, there's a future where each game can fill a particular niche, kinda like Fortnite vs something like Apex or Warzone. I'll always have a special place in my heart for OW, as it's the first competitive FPS I've gotten into, and Rivals definitely scratches a particular itch.
      Personally, I think I prefer Rivals, but I still haven't un-installed OW. I'll probably always come back to it.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@waynetec13 I mean you’re right, but it all depends how devs will change Marvel Rivals. They can make Rivals harder than ow in the future, but now it is way less complex than ow, especially aiming. Marvel Rivals is more about using abilities and overwatch is almost like a 50/50 aim and good ability usage. We just gotta wait and see how Rivals evolve

  • @BigPro1123
    @BigPro1123 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    With the 6v6 update out for OW I have mixed opinions on it. It feels really good when playing on the OW1 maps but hot garbage when on the OW2 maps and modes cause they were made for 5v5. 5v5 works better on OW1 maps than 6v6 does on OW2 maps.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @BigPro1123 i need to play that 6v6 mode again, cuz I haven’t got time yet to hop on the newest 6v6. I played the first version of ow classic and it was really fun, but I got bored of it really fast due to the small hero roster. I can’t wait to play the last stage of ow classic which I think is going to be the GOATS update

  • @yoboyraj9994
    @yoboyraj9994 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tank balancing for 5v5 fucked ow also nice rage bait lmao

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yoboyraj9994 first of all, it’s not a rage bait but facts. Second of all, tanks are not a problem why 5v5 failed.

    • @yoboyraj9994
      @yoboyraj9994 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ literally anyone who played ow 1 understands how certain tanks were designed as main tank and others as off tanks so they could play together and making it 5v5 has screwed up the balance of it which is why one of the tanks will be randomly op each season while another will be terrible just look at orisa and hog recently

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yoboyraj9994 I played ow1 since the release date as a off tank main, both solo on ranked and in full teams on scrims and tournaments so I know how 2 tanks worked really well and I know why people liked 2 tanks so much. But my guy, tanks in ow2 are not a problem. Reason you gave with one tank being randomly op and other being trash has nothing to do with main tank and off tank thing. You can make both off tank and main tank op or trash and it all depends only on blizzards balancing decisions and not because now you don’t have 2 tanks. Also orisa and hog are bad rn, I mean orisa is still ok, not the greatest tank, there are better tanks than her, but she’s still playable. Hog on the other hand is absolutely trash and heavily relies on both your supports and enemy supports. And hog is a perfect example why tanks in ow2 are not the problem, but supports, cuz supports have the most op abilities in the game and those abilities most of the times dictate which tank is gonna win. Also supports make some tanks broken or meta and the perfect example is Mauga and Dva. Mauga and Dva became meta only because blizzard added Juno to the game and Juno made those tanks really strong which is another proof that supports dictate how good or bad tank experience in 5v5 is. Also since now you only have one tank and still 2 supports, all of those op support cds land only on one tank which again either makes that tank extremely op, or extremely ass when you get hit by both enemy ana anti, sleep and zen orb. It’s not the bad tank balancing that makes tank bad or op, it’s not the one tank factor, that makes tank experience miserable in 5v5. Its the supports

  • @mahino420
    @mahino420 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    the only thing currently threatning marvel rivals is how badly optimized it is, however the game will always be more fun than overwatch because overwatch is balanced top down while marvel rivals is just unbalanced
    it is like league vs dota league beat dota and all other mobas simply because it is so unbalanced it is more fun to play because yea u wil lget shit on but one game ur gonna be the asshole shitting on others (plus 1 sec queue times in marvel rivals overwatch cant compete)

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mahino420 thats my only reason why Marvel Rivals is better than OW2 when it comes to the game itself, how good is it and not players experience - queue times. If you are below GM queue times are not that bad, but if you’re gm+ and especially gm1 / champion, sometimes you wait 30 - 90m to get a game

    • @mahino420
      @mahino420 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttv i would have stayed as an overwatch player but when they revealed pve isn't coming i quit the game, they made me wait for years and i remember they didnt release any updates for 2 years with the excuse of overwatch 2 development which was just an update that removed lootboxes and 6v6
      i am playing marvel rivals because overwatch and blizzard don't deserve anyone's time and tbh i hope all overwatch players switch to rivals if temporarily maybe the kick in the butt will wake up the overwatch devs and make them actually get their shit together

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mahino420 I mean thats true. I also got really pissed at blizzard for what they’ve done in the last few years, but I we can’t deny the fact that the base game itself if peak. Its literally impossible to make overwatch bad on accident. This game is so good Blizzard can only make OW bad and unplayable on purpose

    • @JojiUrHomie
      @JojiUrHomie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mahino420I was mad at them too but then I remembered being angry at them didn’t serve me at all and I bought OW1 for pvp. My $60 was happily spent before a promise for PvE was ever made. Those $60 were happily spent before the game was decided to be live service. I got my value out of the game I paid for and then some. So boycotting over a mode I didn’t buy the game for and unsustainable monetization strategy in loot boxes just doesn’t seem real to me. I’d just be pretending to care and taking myself away from a game I genuinely enjoy playing even when it annoys me every other match

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JojiUrHomie I feel exactly the same. I’m only mad that they made ow ftp because now we have more smurfs and lootboxes were really fun to collect and open, but I still play this game to have fun on ranked on scrims, so I don’t really care about lootboxes and events

  • @aidanibarra3957
    @aidanibarra3957 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I cant play marvel rivals and enjoy it in a competitive format as much as overwatch, the biggest thing for me besides the characters, and open queue and all that jazz. Its the aim feel. I have pretty good aim all things considered, and i just feel like my aim is always so off in marvel rivals. Im connstantly tweaking my settings and never finding something that feels good. In ow, if i change my settings slightly, it takes a very short amount of time to adjust,whereas in rivals, i feel like i just never can

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aidanibarra3957 i think it might be the fact that Marvel is 3rd person shooter and not 1st person shooters and aiming in 3rd person shooters feels and works slightly different. I think someone actually made video or tweet about aiming in Marvel Rivals and that it has some problems, but I don’t remember who was it. Maybe thats a case

    • @aidanibarra3957
      @aidanibarra3957 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Skyblue_ttv I play another over the shoulder 3rd person game called warframe. Now I know it's not a tactical, hero shooter... although- but anyway. The shooting actually works in that game. You aim and shoot, and it doesn't have a sort of syrupy feel to it, like you are slogging your mouse cursor though mud. Also fortnite, I don't play anymore but I remember the guns shooting perfectly fine. I was just shit at cranking 90°s so I quit while I was ahead lmao

  • @ClaymoreDesign
    @ClaymoreDesign 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nnot going to lie, i dont think overwatch is bad i just miss double tank as a tank player i will be honest mauga and orisa are unhealthy and they got buffed recently again which makes no sense at all than they nerf junker queen, a hero than by majority of the player base dont know how to play the hero, that why they say ow2 only lissen to pro's, ive see multiable pro even say that those heroes are unhealthy but guess what people will play it anyways because instead of having fun they want to win all the time. which ig is cool but it gets to the point it gets toxic. another example is when im a healer doing 4.325 dmg got 8.478 healing and 3.478 mititgation as briggs supp and my dps has less stats yet they blame healers or tank even tho they are the problem also some tanks dont feel the same at all zarya just constantly bubbles herself that why i move to marvel rivels with a premade team so atleast we got double tank and no locks on heroe cuz they get team ups also so mor variaty honestly allready

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ClaymoreDesign I’m gonna make a video about role problem in Overwatch cuz noone speaks about it. The main problem why tanks are either op or terrible is not tanks themselves, but supports being broken and supports are enabling your entire team. In short, without supports your tank can’t do anything and when your tank can’t do anything, your DPSs can’t do anything.

    • @ClaymoreDesign
      @ClaymoreDesign 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Skyblue_ttv yea good idea.

  • @Skyblue_ttv
    @Skyblue_ttv  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let me know down below, what do you think about Marvel Rivals? Do you enjoy it more than ow? If yes, tell me why cuz I'm curious. Or ow2 still number 1?
    🔥

    • @bela260
      @bela260 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The main reason Marvel Rivals feels more interesting to me than Overwatch is that the Marvel Rivals developers haven't made any major mistakes yet. This gives me hope that they will continue to bring good new content to the game, but I could be wrong-we’ll see in the future. On the other hand, Overwatch's developers, and Blizzard as a whole, feel like they're beyond redemption for me. I’ve completely lost hope in them, especially after they failed to keep their promises for Overwatch 2.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bela260 yeah I can relate to that. Me as a OG overwatch player who’s been playing this game since almost the release also got really mad at blizzard for everything they’ve done past few years, but still, the game itself is really good and it won’t be bad unless blizzard decides to make it bad on purpose

  • @jonstokes1832
    @jonstokes1832 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love ow rivals looks like a fun party game

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jonstokes1832 fr! My fun party game is either DBD or For Honor

  • @aaahmnts8993
    @aaahmnts8993 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good vid

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aaahmnts8993 thank you so much 🙇
      I need to work on my talking flow and editing tho ^^

  • @Onitoryu
    @Onitoryu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This topics are so useless.
    People who prefer one game will play this game, that's it, nobody can say if it's or not a game killer.
    The community will prove it or not.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Onitoryu true, people decide if one game will kill another or not. This vid is just my response to all ow players who are currently crashing out and telling everyone that Rivals will kill Overwatch, just because they are mad at blizzard when the game itself won’t die and is great.

    • @Onitoryu
      @Onitoryu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Skyblue_ttv i know it was not against you.
      I told about the fact you have to do a video about this because too much people said bullshit about game killers.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Onitoryu yep, I just don’t want ppl to spread lies about good game, just because they are mad at the company for making mistakes that are not really effecting the gameplay

  • @selflessuplift
    @selflessuplift 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    bro you need to be locked up, these takes are the worst ever.... omg bro are you ok? "no one knows why 6v6 was better" bro if i knew you in real life you would be my first fist fight.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@selflessuplift xDDDD

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@selflessuplift if you don’t believe me than read my other replies where I exactly explain why “no one knows why 6v6 was better”. Especially my @yoboyrain response. Maybe that will clarify your misunderstanding

    • @selflessuplift
      @selflessuplift 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Skyblue_ttv I'm not going to bother, bro every single OG quit bc 6v6 is gone. NO ONE LIKES 5V5

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@selflessuplift don’t say that everyone quit ow because 6v6 is gone. You’re not the only human on the entire world. And if you don’t want to spend time on doing good research before discussing certain topic with other people, then don’t trash talk and hate them for no reason. 🙏🏻
      Thank you very much and have a nice day

  • @milansvancara
    @milansvancara 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Well..
    There are three types of people.
    a) Those bored with Overwatch because of lack of freshness so they go to Marvel Rivals
    b) Those bored with Overwatch because of lack of complexity so they go to Deadlock
    c) Those who bought Overwatch 2 and are coping hard about their mistake :P

    • @psychelicious5003
      @psychelicious5003 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bought overwatch 2? I thought it was free.

    • @ClaymoreDesign
      @ClaymoreDesign 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      than their is me i went to marvel rivals cuz i miss the double tank meta and now me and my full premade team so we get marvel with 2 tank 2 dps and 2 supp xD i just dont like the unhealthy playstyle overwatch got either tanks are kajiu and almost never die examples are orisa zarya and mauga, orisa doesnt die mauga does more dmg than ur dps, and zarya doesnt feel like zarya anymore cuz she constantly bubbles herself now

    • @milansvancara
      @milansvancara 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@psychelicious5003 Lul you are correct, I remembered buying it but I guess I got it mixed up with OW1:D
      Well my point still stands, just swap it with buying skins:D

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@psychelicious5003 ow2 is free but original version of the game aka ow1 was paid. I bought it and I’m not mad that now its ftp because I spent my money on it. I’m mad because since they made it ftp now we have more cheaters, more multi accounts, more smurfs and also now we don’t have lootboxes and free skins cause blizzard has to make money. And also thats why now they only make skins for kiri, juno, mercy and dva cuz they need to be sure that ppl will buy those skins and even though I understand their point of view, I’m still mad

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ClaymoreDesign yeah, the problem with tanks is that blizzard always buff or nerf them, which either makes them op or absolutely trash. And the real problem is not tank but supports being too broken. If blizzard nerfed supports and then slightly adjusted tanks (just like they’re doing now with mauga) tanks would become fun to play and well balanced and ppl wouldn’t complain about 5v5 being trash. Unless they just want to have 2 tanks for more interesting gameplay

  • @wwerty234
    @wwerty234 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    you are coping hard af, overwatch started dying once 5v5 started

    • @wwerty234
      @wwerty234 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      why was it better? so many dps and tank characters have lost their identity bc they went to 5v5. Also that was not the 6v6 play test you absolute bot of a human. nobody played that mode bc it sucked it was day 1 patch. The real 6v6 test starts on the 17th. brother the more your video goes on the more i can tell you have zero clue what you are talking about and you deff are hard stuck in gold/sliver.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wwerty234 what am I coping? Let me know so I can explain what I mean

  • @jrg7777
    @jrg7777 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The new game freshness of Rivals wore off for me the moment I saw 4 dps and someone said "Someone go tank."

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jrg7777 wahahaha. Thats literally the part of ow1 6v6 with no role lock that no one remembers. The times where you wanted to plain certain heroes, but you never could, cause you were forced to flex all heroes 24 due to your team always picking 5 DPSs. People who think no role lock ow was better either never played 6v6 no role lock ow, oe they are just hard coping just to have another reason to blame Overwatch 2. Sorry but it’s just facts maaan

  • @bruh545
    @bruh545 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6v6 is the problem tho we need to go back to 6v6 and balance tanks again in the format super tanks in 5v5 dont work we have already seen this. The game is just a cycle of tank buffs and nerfs where at the end of the cycle dva mauga or orisa will turn hard meta

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bruh545 the problem of 5v5 isn’t tank, it’s supports. Buffing / nerfing tanks won’t do anything, because supports are the main problem why both tank and dps experience is miserable. Supports are just too op and they dictate the game both for your dpss and tank. I will prolly make video about it in the future

  • @pedroaa8239
    @pedroaa8239 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    great video

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pedroaa8239 thank you my friend 🙌🏻. Fun fact, I’m Pedro as well haha

  • @bAmb00zled189
    @bAmb00zled189 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay here's my take.
    I hate overwatch two for several reasons, and I'll try to break it down as someone's who's been enjoying Marvel Rivals.
    1 monetization. This game isn't shoving microtransactions down my throat. it isn't making me pay for the battle pass just to get the RIGHT to own the new character day one. i know this was fixed, but it was a God-awful idea in the first place. Unlike all games with a battle pass system, when overwatch 2 started the coins weren't in the battle pass, so you can't buy one battle pass and get the next and then the next and so on. it feels money hungry to make people continue buying new passes when in other games there's the option just to buy one and get the next from completing the last. It was harder to get anything from progressing. you got 50 coins from doing a week's worth of challenges or something like that. it wasn't fair when just months ago you could've gotten a free loot box just from playing and even though this loot box shit has given me a severe gambling addiction I still appreciate it more than what overwatch 2 started with.
    2 failed promises. The whole point of overwatch 2 was PVE, which because of Blizzard and corporate greed was canceled the whole reason the game was made objectively worse never came to be. it was all pointless. We were hyped for nothing. Instead, we got an unfinished buggy mess. Rivals haven't promised something like this before we were given what we wanted, and we love it
    3 familiar faces. Let's all be real here, we all care far more about the Marvel characters then the overwatch ones. I've grown up with superheros and love their personalities and familiarity more than overwatch's now frankly bland characters and archetypes. being able to play as Star-lord or Squirrel Girl in a third person shooter feels like heaven while Overwatch just dropped the most boring season along with the most boring hero with the most disgusting design what's the point in going back?
    4 better gameplay. It just feels smoother. the third person view makes it somehow feel less slow and disorienting. personally zipping around as Tracer gives me motion sickness while back flipping and zooming around as Star-lord doesn't. it just makes me feel less bored it's not as generic or bland like just another shooter, which gives it personality and style
    5 Style. Speaking of which, the game just looks better. it has a more defined unique style that makes it pop. it doesn't feel like another shooter since it's based off and looks like comics. all the maps in Overwatch honestly look the same. There's no cartoony bright artsyle that intrigues me it's all dark and boring.
    6 6v6. It makes matches last longer and more enjoyable. A team wipe feels more rewarding, and a team fight feels more exciting. especially since I'm a tank main being all alone, having to be the only damage sponge felt exhausting. It's the reason why I play open cue. The only reason why 6v6 failed in its later stages was all the shields, but most characters in Marvel Rivals don't have shields there's like three, so it still feels balanced.
    7 quicker matches that don't make me want to kms. If I'm playing payload or point and a Ball or Lucio or Tracer are on the objective it takes forever to get rid of them I literally just want to commit toaster bath by that point I rarely ever have this issue in Marvel mainly because THERE IS NO BALL.
    8 JEFF. Jeff is in the game that's all that needs to be said :3
    All in all Marvel Rivals has just felt like overwatch but better in every way i have no reason to play overwatch anymore it's not as fun or replayable I'm not getting swarmed by Sombra every second while playing Rivals the devs won't lie to me they won't force microtransactions down my throat and instead of having to nerf everyone each patch everyone's broken so it's fair you have a right to an opinion I do too and my opinion in that overwatch has been dead for a long while and Marvel Rivals is the new overwatch it might die in a year too but hey every game besides Fortnite does.

    • @bAmb00zled189
      @bAmb00zled189 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Whoops meant to say PVE I'm such a silly lil guy but you know what I meant the MvM player vs cpu type stuff

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @bAmb00zled189 I can relate to the bp part. I (as an ex og Fortnite and Rocket League player) was kinda upset that blizzard made bps that don’t give you full price of bp worth of coins back. Also I hate the fact that “seasonal” / “event” bps have literally like 1-2 seasonal skins, everything thing else is just a random shit and the whole rest of the seasonal skins (which is like 80-90%) is in the shop to buy for overpriced prices.
      When it comes to Marvel Rivals I get all of your ow frustrations cause it also still makes me mad from time to time when I’m getting perma tunneled by sombra when I want to have fun on for example doom or pharah, but u know, the fact that now you don’t have annoying heroes like sombra / ball / tracer in Marvel Rivals doesn’t change the fact that they will probably add at least one super annoying hero in the future 😅 so I can only pray that they won’t make you dirty 😭
      But who knows, maybe they will actually cook perfectly with their hero designs and they won’t release a single annoying hero. They literally have OW as a perfect feedback on what heroes or abilities people don’t like so there is actually a big chance they won’t make the same mistakes as Overwatch. Anyways, I love your response! Thank you for your great, really detailed opinion 🙌🏻🔥

    • @bAmb00zled189
      @bAmb00zled189 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Skyblue_ttv thank you for your calm collected response that isn't just overwatch glazing and your right they will most likely add annoying characters in the future I can't like them all there's always a chance for a slip up and I'll understand now that they have Overwatch's homework to copy off of including all the wrong answers though it'll be very hard to fuck this up

  • @satanicchocobo9705
    @satanicchocobo9705 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Overwatch
    IS
    dead

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@satanicchocobo9705 why? XD

    • @satanicchocobo9705
      @satanicchocobo9705 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Skyblue_ttv lol idk i just wanted to be that guy, both are fun

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@satanicchocobo9705 valid haha 😂🔥

  • @admin-nimda
    @admin-nimda 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This video nails it. People are glazing Marvel Rivals hard. In my opinion, Marvel Rivals as a game is not even better than Concord. It only gained its current temporary success because of its IP and people's blind hatred toward Blizzard.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@admin-nimda exactly. Most ppl that swap from ow to Marvel is just mad at blizzard and thats why they say Marvel Rivals is better. Like, I get it that Rivale may be more fun for you to play, but it doesn’t make it a better game

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      blind hatred to blizzard??
      do i need to remind myself why i uninstalled battlenet / ow early 23?
      they literally cancelled all of the PvE stuff that was promised. they left ow1 in the dirt for AGES. they were working on PvE the entire time. then we get ow2, which is just one big patch to ow1, removing a player on each team. nothing mega new, just some reworks, a gamemode, and overall balance.
      and then they start making all skins paid for, like 20 bucks for skins, when everything used to be earnable through gameplay. they removed ur level borders. they dont let u see ur own rank on ur icon, all to save ppl from toxicity??
      i can dig on a LOT of other stuff and reasons for blizzard being bad. but i rly shouldnt have to... its not blind hatred, its rather justified.
      also how come u say marvel rivals is worse than concord? Concord mind you, was like one of if not the LARGEST game flops ever??? rivals is doing crazy good with hundreds of thousands of players. concord had barely a few thousand at best.
      Rivals is great on many different levels, a lot of good stuff there. no need to hate on ow or rivals, both are good games. it just sucks that ow is driven by blizzard, thats all.

    • @GeosNotHere
      @GeosNotHere 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Cryoptic_ Idk dude these Overwatch players are weird. They remind me of TF2 players back in 2016 when Overwatch first came out

    • @kemoree
      @kemoree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Saying rivals isnt even as good as concord is the dumbest statement that I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth. Did rivals get a head start because of the IP? Yes, no shit. Is it still a genuinely good game? Also yes. When tens of thousands of people are switching to rivals, even the biggest overwatch content creators, you can't sit there and say it's not an objectively fun game to play, as if thousands of people are just playing a game to spite blizzard. Overwatch has been on a decline ever since 5v5 came out and no matter how much copium you take the game is objectively so shit right now it's unbelievable. Will either game kill each other? Probably not, but saying that rivals isn't a genuine competitor is just ignorant

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GeosNotHere there are ALWAYS people who will be extremely sceptical or just blindly dislike whats new.
      valorant came out, bunch of cs players would complain about everything. no spray patterns, no map select, to cartoonish and childs game, not everyone has access to flashesh and smokes, the anti cheat....
      and now plenty of those cs fans are now begging for 120hz / tickrate servers, better hitreg, better anti cheat....
      its the same loop. some people want to dislike marvel to be someone special, as to not be a sheep. but sometimes being a sheep is nice :P

  • @Seacle14
    @Seacle14 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Obviously, a licensed game immediately loses against literally anything original

  • @travisabr1294
    @travisabr1294 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marvel Rivals is very spammy and art style is too sketch/comic looking. Plus it is unoriginal with many of the abilities are just copy pasted from OW.

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      facts with abilities. Rivals looks like someone thrown all ow hero abilities into spin wheel and used it to combine them into new heroes

    • @jackmyers6821
      @jackmyers6821 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Skyblue_ttvY'all are really outhear sounding like you support Nintendo and it's wild

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jackmyers6821 what? XD wdym nintendo?

  • @porterjensen8853
    @porterjensen8853 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like 5v5 because it allows for 1 player to have a bigger affect. I played 6 years ago, and now so I’ve tried both

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@porterjensen8853 that’s why I still prefer 5v5 even though I was a tank player in ow1. I get it that having 2 tanks that can combo with with each other was really fun, but most of the times ppl (me included) play ow alone, and playing alone with random second tank wasn’t fun when most of the times he was throwing. And also as you said and me in the vid said, it was harder to solo carry in 6v6, especially on tank who needed second tank to do sth, cause now you have one more person on your team that can throw you a game and enemy team has one more person that can carry their game. People never remembers that problem of 6v6. They just cope that 6v6 was perfect and now ow is dead because of 5v5. 5v5 is only less fun on scrims and pro play when you play in 5 stack and everyone is good at the game, cuz 6v6 and 2 tanks allowed your team to have more strats and more cooperation, but for playing solo or even duo, 5v5 is better

  • @kirbinalg0n363
    @kirbinalg0n363 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Marvel Rivals it's not bad ngl, but people just hate Overwatch and blizzard that much, so they're trying to like Rivals no matter what because of that, that's why they're saying such things like "Rivals is more fun because it's unbalanced"

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kirbinalg0n363 the best thing is that the people who say that Rivals is better because game is unbalanced are the same people who hate overwatch because it’s also unbalanced 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bartekpietrzak6230
    @bartekpietrzak6230 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I played overwatch for the past few days and it just feels do awful. Every game I see Widow hanzo Ana combo and without two tanks to protect you either Play the same or Die

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bartekpietrzak6230 if you constantly play against Hanzo and Widow, than just play:
      On Tank: Ball, Doomfist, Dva, Sigma, Hazard, even Rein can work if you play him well
      On DPS: either mirror Widow or Hanzo and outskill enemies, or play Soj, Genji, Mei, even Pharah can work, if again, you use her correctly
      On Support: Literally every hero works, just don’t peek snipers and hug walls. Moira may only suck if your teammates will stay in the open and you won’t be able to reach them with your heals without leaving a cover

  • @waiokol9446
    @waiokol9446 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kinda chaotic video but ngl , I start doing 1 season breaks in Overwatch 2 and every time i come back , i having a good time and playing almost full season. Most people going to have burnout and its true when you grind

    • @Skyblue_ttv
      @Skyblue_ttv  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waiokol9446 exactly. If you only play ow you will burn out at some point, but once you take a break, you will enjoy the game again. Unless you’re really gaslighting yourself that ow is trash