For anybody that knows radios, as she was taking off from Lae at small cloud of dust was seen on video. It was their receiving antenna that was torn off. They could not receive messages from Itasca.
No antenna was found on the runway. Puff of dirt from a dirt runway was just that. The problem with the radio communication was a misunderstanding by the Itasca crew of the radio schedules established by Earhart.
@@raoulcruz4404 and her exceedingly poor understanding of systems and failure to do a comm check or flight plan that covered all bases. Doomed from the start. Hubris and way over rated as an aviator.
A 2 degree wind error! That’s funny seeing how a 67 degree magnetic (compass) course is only 1.5 degrees north of Howland. If Clarence Williams calculated the wrong true course (76.5 degrees instead of the 78 degree true course), this could explain why they were on 157-337!!
@@SkyborneVisions I agree, there’s more than one way to get an answer. Mother nature can really mess up a good day. But there’s a difference between pre planning a flight and creating a map strip (detailed instructions), and having to make adjustments or trouble shoot while in the air over the ocean with no safety net.
She knew nothing of navigation or communication. Why in the hell would they remove the trailing wire for low frequency. I In addition to this she was a poor pilot to begin with.
I've heard this too that she was in way over her head. Maybe PC or AA was already in play way back then. 😎 It does seem incompetence her, him, both was the likely reason.
Amelia wasnt the one doing the navigation Fred Noonan was the navigator...Noonan was the 'Go to Guy' for navigation in that area of the world...Lufthansa,Pan Am relied on his calculations and navigation charts when those airlines began flying the 'clippers' long before the flight with Amelia...if their navigation was so bad...How is it they managed to fly around the world with very little trouble..up until leaving Lae?
@@getoffenit7827 I guess you've never knew well of drinking alcoholic. He was fired from panam for that. Even back then they knew it was deadly. The p I c is the p I c.
@@getoffenit7827 @Simple. Pilotage and de'd reckoning are used. You plot your course, winds and known ground fixes - typically visual particularly in that day. And time your way between fixes. You Correct for wind and ground speed as you verify the ground fixes. All private pilots in America have to still do this and it is fairly easy. All their flying was over stretches where land marks could be seen and validated. Oh, well what about the crossing of the Atlantic to Africa, you ask? Well, correct, they had nothing to mark their progress by and the DID INDEED wind up quite far north of their intended landing spot in Africa. But Africa was also close enough to not be a real problem with fuel. Eventually there would be a huge land mass in front of them. Plenty of places to land if they were off course. And they were. Plenty of gas and a no brainer. But it's a far different matter when crossing with your maximum range looking for a speck on the ocean that if you don't find, you are going in. And they did. If the radios were working properly, this wouldn't be a discussion. Enough from the others that she was incompetent. A series of links in an accident chain, that if any one of them had been broken the accident would not have happened. 2 things in an emergency ALL pilots wish they had. 10,000 gallons of aviation fuel below you and 10,000 feet of paved runway just ahead of you.
@@getoffenit7827 Well, other than flying across the Atlantic this was truly the first leg that relied heavily on celestial navigation hoping to get close enough for picking up the ship's radio signal. Finding this island without reliable radio is nearly impossible. If you're 1'000 feet high you could fly within 7 miles of it any never see it. At least crossing the Atlantic you were pretty much guaranteed to hit somewhere in Africa if you just kept flying north-east. I can't think of a more difficult place to navigate to on the planet without radio navigation or GPS.
Great presentation, it looks like you’re the grand prize winner. They did in fact, find Amelia’s plane, well done.
they did not actually turned out to be coral.
really well done video
For anybody that knows radios, as she was taking off from Lae at small cloud of dust was seen on video. It was their receiving antenna that was torn off. They could not receive messages from Itasca.
No antenna was found on the runway. Puff of dirt from a dirt runway was just that.
The problem with the radio communication was a misunderstanding by the Itasca crew of the radio schedules established by Earhart.
@user-vd1uz3dj8l right. They were sending messages. But I'm sure they figured out that they weren't receiving return messages..
@@raoulcruz4404 and her exceedingly poor understanding of systems and failure to do a comm check or flight plan that covered all bases. Doomed from the start. Hubris and way over rated as an aviator.
Excellent video.
As a former USAF navigator with celestial navigation experience, this event has always interested me. Thanks for sharing.
They screwed up their very first position report. Unbelievable. Unbelievable they didn't get lost before this.
A 2 degree wind error! That’s funny seeing how a 67 degree magnetic (compass) course is only 1.5 degrees north of Howland. If Clarence Williams calculated the wrong true course (76.5 degrees instead of the 78 degree true course), this could explain why they were on 157-337!!
Your true course would change by 2 degrees and magnetic heading would also change about 7 degrees along the way, flying great circle of the earth.
@@SkyborneVisions I agree, there’s more than one way to get an answer. Mother nature can really mess up a good day. But there’s a difference between pre planning a flight and creating a map strip (detailed instructions), and having to make adjustments or trouble shoot while in the air over the ocean with no safety net.
She knew nothing of navigation or communication. Why in the hell would they remove the trailing wire for low frequency. I In addition to this she was a poor pilot to begin with.
I've heard this too that she was in way over her head. Maybe PC or AA was already in play way back then. 😎 It does seem incompetence her, him, both was the likely reason.
Amelia wasnt the one doing the navigation Fred Noonan was the navigator...Noonan was the 'Go to Guy' for navigation in that area of the world...Lufthansa,Pan Am relied on his calculations and navigation charts when those airlines began flying the 'clippers' long before the flight with Amelia...if their navigation was so bad...How is it they managed to fly around the world with very little trouble..up until leaving Lae?
@@getoffenit7827 I guess you've never knew well of drinking alcoholic. He was fired from panam for that. Even back then they knew it was deadly. The p I c is the p I c.
@@getoffenit7827 @Simple. Pilotage and de'd reckoning are used. You plot your course, winds and known ground fixes - typically visual particularly in that day. And time your way between fixes. You Correct for wind and ground speed as you verify the ground fixes. All private pilots in America have to still do this and it is fairly easy.
All their flying was over stretches where land marks could be seen and validated. Oh, well what about the crossing of the Atlantic to Africa, you ask? Well, correct, they had nothing to mark their progress by and the DID INDEED wind up quite far north of their intended landing spot in Africa. But Africa was also close enough to not be a real problem with fuel. Eventually there would be a huge land mass in front of them. Plenty of places to land if they were off course. And they were. Plenty of gas and a no brainer. But it's a far different matter when crossing with your maximum range looking for a speck on the ocean that if you don't find, you are going in. And they did. If the radios were working properly, this wouldn't be a discussion. Enough from the others that she was incompetent. A series of links in an accident chain, that if any one of them had been broken the accident would not have happened.
2 things in an emergency ALL pilots wish they had. 10,000 gallons of aviation fuel below you and 10,000 feet of paved runway just ahead of you.
@@getoffenit7827 Well, other than flying across the Atlantic this was truly the first leg that relied heavily on celestial navigation hoping to get close enough for picking up the ship's radio signal. Finding this island without reliable radio is nearly impossible. If you're 1'000 feet high you could fly within 7 miles of it any never see it. At least crossing the Atlantic you were pretty much guaranteed to hit somewhere in Africa if you just kept flying north-east. I can't think of a more difficult place to navigate to on the planet without radio navigation or GPS.
They might be dead now.
I'm pretty sure they are.
@@TheFarmerfitz : She would be almost 130 years old by now so I think its a certainty that she's no longer alive 😞
@@paganphil100 for sures on that..