I heard that dji like glass and for beginner who willing to race or do freestyle is terrible, drones crash every day and dji shatters compared to analog drones. Fixing is expensive and no simulator will save you from crash since even pro crash everyday... One hit and dji is dead... Is it true that cost is way bigger to learn and/or fly with dji than analog? Ppl say that dji fpv is a hard way to learn and fly fpv since of price and fixing price...
I doubt it will be much cheaper than what you can already buy it from China right now going on DJI's history. I got the full fly more combo tx/rx/goggles for $800USD the other day.
Huh, the dji goggles actually fit me perfectly. I bought the dji made foam that is supposed to fit better as well, and definitely made it worse for me. I get the feeling the stock foam is for flatter Asian faces like mine, and the better fit foam is for pointer faces.
100% upgrading the antennas made a BIG diff for me, flying at 1200mw. I upgraded from stock DJI goggle and Caddx Vista air unit antennas to TrueRC LHCP singularities on both goggle and Caddx. The difference was amazing. I got 1.3km down a beach with stock antennas, signal getting low and when I turned the quad around to come back the quad dropped out of the sky. With TrueRC, I still had 50MBs going both directions at the same spot. At 2km still 50MBs. Didn’t fancy testing further, but I don’t worry about signal often anymore. It may be that the extra height of the 7cm Air unit antenna is what made most the difference. But either way, I am now happy and was disappointed before. And they look heaps better!!
Flo-Rida FPV sure I’ll do it using a car in 700mw, to have more real world result, myself, the video I saw the stock and the patch gave the same result!
At 1200mw aftermarket antennas make a big difference . I get huge signal drop and frame drops in one area where l fly with the stock antennas. With the pagodas i get almost no loss in the same place and yes l have done back to back testing. I didnt notice a difference between the pagodas and true rc singularities
This is so helpful!!! Almost every question that I've had got answered here. As I just bought the system. We need more real world situation addressing videos that list stuff people will run into. Cheers Nurk
Nice job! Agree...So far I'm loving the DJI FPV System (just getting started in FPV) and that its also compatible with Caddx Vista (as I just bought a BetaFPV 9X) as well. Everything can be bound to my DJI FVP Goggles and RC so I'm not switching gear all the time. Wish DJI would improve those MMCX Connectors though (mine broke off 1st crash). Someone recommended soldering a piece of wire to it to pull it out (I'll have to try next time).
There needs to be a Open Digital standard. Any chance of that? Hate to be locked into one company and just their products. Good review ... thanks. Sub'd
for sure they are, the market is hitting its teenage years, there will only be more money in it. I'm running a mid range priced but high end specced analog goggle rn, and I plan to purchase second generation digital goggles when they come.
No manufacturer cares for the hobby and more than the next. If we stop flying, they stop making money. So unlike industries that are essential to our daily lives, they have a vested interest in keeping us happy and establishing a competitive advantage to ensure we buy their stuff. DJI entered a market that hated them, man an awesome product, and won over a whole bunch of customers. Now manufacturers like Fatshark and Runcam have to play catch up because they weren't keen to innovate or didn't have the means to do it. If DJI didn't stir things up with their ability to invest millions into R&D for digital FPV, we wouldn't have it. Fatshark only announced their product after DJI swooped in and 12 months later we still don't have a working product from them...
What about long range mountain surfing? Seems like pilots like Jet fpv or Gab707 are not really convinced about this system for that kind of flying. Also what's your opinion about the closed ecosystem of DJI?
I love the DJI FPV system too. Just wish for a couple additions to the system: 1: A 10-25mw HDMI-to-VTX. This way you could plug in your PC (simulator) and broadcast to goggles. 2: Type C to HDMI support for the goggles. This way you can output goggles' video directly to a monitor. For industrial use, You could just hand a spare pair of goggles to the producer. They can use the HDMI as needed. 3: More elements supported via OSD (for iNav Planes) 4: Better handling of signal loss - for Digital & Analog. 5: (Perhaps the most important) Support audio on goggles! I want to hear the quad from the goggles. Again, pipe-dreams but all of these are extremely do-able.
This ! The lack of HDMI output (and no, the 750$ Smart Controller doesn't count...) is what has been holding me from purchasing DJI's system. I fly with friends and family often, not being able to lend them a spare pair of goggles and share the experience is a no-go for me. HDMI-in would be great too, as would audio support. If Shark Byte is priced adequately (i.e. price of SB system + HDO2
I'll be happy if they get rid of some of the heat issues that holds the system back with respect to making it even smaller or for putting it in other applications (such as small RC cars/robotics) that do not have the cooling capabilities of a quad
I found it worked great for racing with some timing system imperfections. Made a video about running the Multigp qualifier all on digital this year on my channel.
Wish the hell they were. Love my mavic platinum pro, but love my dji goggles and my QAV2R even more. Poor Mavics just been sitting there since I got my goggles.
@@tt-vc8fd I've seen if you get litchi app it has an fpv mode slip ya phone in one of those vr headsets& it even moves the gimbal up & down with your head.look up litchi fpv on utube some aussie guy got it up and running.i ain't tried it yet but it looks pretty awesome. P.s I got martian4 and qav250same as. 👍🇬🇧
as much as I love technology and wanna fly digital. I will hold back on the DJI system and wait for some other systems. I am just not a huge fan of DJI. they kinda are like Apple in many ways. and I'm sure Fatshark and skyzone will get a variable solution in the near future!
#1 Thing I hate about DJI goggles: NO HDMI OUT If they had an HDMI OUT, I could screw wearing these POS suffocating bricks on my face, set them on the table, and plug them into a legit military grade 720p ruggetized computer monitor and fly off of that. I for real legit don't want to and hate wearing these d@mn things. The weight drags your face down and rests on your nose, press your nostrils closed, and you can't breathe. I can adjust mine slightly to alleviate that, but then the line of sight is somewhat above what is straight ahead and down viewing for me since I'm use to working on a computer monitor... and I then have to look straigh ahead or upward while flying which is a ROYAL PITA. Fix the damn goggles DJI. Make a box set version for people with vision problems so we can get closer to the screen and read the OSD. Just pipe dreams here...
Thanks Nurk! You are the man! thank you for your honest review! I am thinking to upgrade my gears. Currently I have Qx7 and FrSky receivers and box analog goggle. I want to move to DJI FPV, my question is should I buy tango 2 (crossfire) and DJI goggles or should I buy the DJI controller? What do you recommend ?
Next time, you might try to reverse psychology with people. Do NOT Subscribe to this channel I beg you PLEASE DO NOT. You might reach out those 70% not subscribed :P
I could've got DJI and still can, BUT.. 1. 2x heavier unmodded. 2. No small drones with cheap batteries for playing for long periods with many batteries. 3. Very expensive drones you can't relax with properly. 4. They have higher latency. 5. Image cuts to black immediately making it more likely to lose or crash expensive drone. 6. Only 2 cameras actually look O.K. (i own 4k TV's) 7. Dji is and always has been just a flying camera company for photographers. 8. Stress, worry, devastation, ect. 9. I'm not stupid.
Bought a GLR 1.28 track racing car instead and then my DJI Inspire 1 and a Raptor 650 Folding and my Futaba T10J and T14SG went in the same spirit. Instead of Futaba, I got a new Jumper T16 Pro to drive my BetaFPV 85 HD and Mobula 6, which I was an idiotic purchase as that Jumper never came out of the box. Brand new Eachine EV200 and two whoop are therefore lying and scrapping together with Jumper and it only gives a bad conscience. Well, I have a "small" hobby project left too and it is a Sky Hero Spy Y6-900 with Dji Naza V2 and 4S engine system. Without Futaba radio and an unwillingness to drive it with the Jumper, I am now thinking of a DJI FPV Fly More Combo instead. If I buy a DJI kit with radio, goggles and air unit, can I fligh this with the Naza flight controller as well? I have a Diatone 210 that got a kit EMax RS 2205 2600KV, Matek F722-SE FC and Runcam Split Mini 2 for 4S configuration with Jumper ... As I said, Betaflight and analogue suck both energy and patience out of me, so last winter the Runcam went out with Turnigy Evo radio and it was aimed to also take the Matek FC out and replace with OneFlight and Caddx Turtle V2. Then Covid struck and most of it halted. Now, however, I want this 210 race drone in airworthy condition and I am thinking of stopping in a DJI kit instead and then comes the third question. If I can fly Air Unit with radio in RTH centered GPS lever for Sky Heron, is there a possibility that you could easily change the radio to race mode with the throttle lever at the bottom for the race drone and be able to switch between these modes? If I can get this done and get these drones in airworthy condition again, then the hope is to replace the drive system in Sky Heron with a 6S configuration for longer flight time. If it does not work to run the radio in different modes and have GPS mode, then the Sky Heron might have to be an FPV drone, but in a larger scale to mimic a ”wing”. How do you make your FPV Goggle to fit your face, out of the box it's terrible for me? Is there an FlightOne FC that is PnP with DJI Air Unit? Is there a DJI PnN Flight Controller with GPS to get a Naza V2 flight experience? I need a jump start to get the motivation back, and BetaFlight is NOT the way to get me back on track!
mate..good job...i like ur vids :) i m flying more than 8 years...3d helis ..and last 3 -4 years i fly drones also...i just got a 6s beast with dji goggles and new radio with crossfire...love it ...just curious why should i change the stock antennas of goggles? whats the differense with the aftermarket? range or quality of image? both? thanks.
rsx-r $20, Any 800 mw VTX, $30, bought the HD3's with antennae and 2 modules for $250, and brand new QX7S with battery for $180. Once this stuff starts showing up used, for those prices, I'm down.
Im an Indianapolis resident Nurk, but in serious need of some help getting my OSD to work in my DJI goggles with my Taycan/Mamba F405 DJI mini flight controller. Works perfect with my Luminier QAV2-R. Even had Capn Mavic look into it yesterday when we maidened the Taycan. How can I contact you for a little assistance please?
I had so much trouble with dvr before last update. Strap sucks not good in the year of covid 🤣🤣🤣🤣 check out my dji water proof vid? My new favorite bird! th-cam.com/video/7tjm7lRCns4/w-d-xo.html
its nice knowing even pros like yourself make mistakes and crash, specifically the flying over water for example. thanks for the water bottle tip too lol
Agreed on the "more than one company" thing. Caddx vista is just another hardware vendor obeying the same specs laid out by DJI. I won't change over until either DJI open source their code or another company or two offer an entire different take on digital FPV. DJI are just flying apple phones. Some people love their iphones. I would not touch one with the septic rod in a leper's pants.
sry but the price is way different I can get the best fat sharks for 4 to 500 plus the 120ish you said for parts , vs 800 for JUST the dji goggles and then another 180+ for the parts.. that makes it a good bit more expensive I could basically buy 2 sets of fat sharks ( top tier goggles) for one dji goggle set...
Re subscribers you got it backward. The fact that most people who watch are not subscribers is a GOOD thing. It means youtube likes your video so much that it is pushing it even to nonsubs and the nonsubs are watching.
Do you think DJI have continued to show the same level of support to the fpv community in how they’ve made and set up the newer Goggles 2, or do you think the V2’s were their pinnacle for this? And if the V2’s were the pinnacle, do you think there’s been a shift in what DJI are aiming for in their approach to FPV? Thanks again.
Aye bro, your videos are cool and informative as hell. I subscribed from the first video i saw of yours (the explorer lr review). I don't know who wouldnt subscribe. Anyway, I Just dipped my toe into fpv and got a tinyhawk 2. Have done a ton of research these last 2 weeks (a lot from your channel) and decided that digital (DJI) is the way to go for me because I'm not so tech savvy and the ease of use thing seems right up my alley, lol. But also DJI seem to be the leading innovators in the industry. I love camera drones also tho which is what I started with (zino pro) and I plan to get a skydio 2. I want to freestyle very well thats all. I'm a few days into this so far and I haven't really crashed much and I'm thinking about the simulator but I don't wanna but a controller just to do it. Anyway sorry to run on in your comments. Keep posting amazing content especially like that train video from a few years ago. That was DOPE as hell bro. You a beast for that one.
The DJI HD system does indeed rock. My biggest monetary complaint is the big pile of worthless analog boards I have here and I do miss all my custom OpenTX switches and functions, and the 4 transmitters (all equipped with Crossfire, one with 2W). My other complaints are mostly minor in the big picture. One problem was admitting DJI was doing something good, and overlooking that whole China business/political thing, which has (and looks like it will continue to be) something anyone who flys RC has to deal with, as alternatives are rare to non-existent. The other stuff doesn't even comes close to compelling me to even think of running analog. The real big complaint is (as with you) the lack of an output so you can take people for rides. It's kind of a vicious thing, I often find myself saying "did you see that??, isn't this HD awesome??" only to realize nobody can watch. While it is hard to justify another set of goggles just to hand off to A (One, Uno, Singular) spectator/spotter. If they had a receiver I could hook to a display, I''d buy one instantly. A video out on the goggles should be a standard feature though, and I don't understand the reason there isn't one, technically, it couldn't add cost enough create any barrier, it would, in fact most probably increase sales, even at a higher price. The reason must be that it will effect other product lines sales or something like that. If it's obvious and I'm missing it, please point it out for me, I would really like to understand. Thanks for the great long term test report, nicely done.
I like the knowledge you possess and pass on, but I'm not surprised you broke so many switches. I have seen in many videos that you just throw everything to the table. You have such a manner, and the equipment does not like it very much. Apparently, DJI is just lucky.
Interesting video. Concerning the price...BUT we do not all fly on TBS unify and top of the range analog stuff. For instance, I have one rig out of 5 with tbs unify and crsf and etc. So analog gives way more flexibility in the choice of components, rather than paying the premium price for all quads of a personal fleet. Ccl: Dji is way more expensive than analog.
I do slightly regret not starting with the DJI FPV system. I just wish it wasn't such a closed ecosystem. FWIW I really don't like my HDO2s, when they are in focus, my eyelashes hit the lenses and the lenses hit my forehead if I put them up. I will, no doubt, pick up the DJI gear eventually, I just hope the pros outweigh the cons.
DJI customer service sucks though my Moto is if they don't care about me and my Issues with there products I don't buy there products just my opinion. You did say comment so it's your fault LOL!!! . Keep making great videos and if you ever make it to Minnesota let me know would be cool to meet you just saying. I never comment and see what you did now I'm long winded text. your videos are awesome btw.
Completely agree with all points. The one only other complaint is that DJI Digital FPV is not compatible with any of their Drones...I am into this for the cinematic capabilities (Inspire Pilot). Why do we have to build a drone or buy a third party drone to be able to use this system...?
What are the cheap-medium-high end setup for long range in terms of Video Feed ? I am going with analog ev800d with lumenier axii patch and omni, and another lumenier omni on drone and still got like 150m of signal. Some tips on how to improve to a newbie ? Thanks
If you don’t have to get on a computer to transfer files, update firmware, and SD card on open transmitter then I will do digital FPV. I am not in any way good with computers and did away with my radio master tx. Too much technical stuff. I will rather pay higher cost for digital then mess with analog anyday.
First flight ever on hd was your DJI setup at Bloomfield. It locked out and I disarmed and your quad fell atleast 50ft straight down... will never forget that moment. Thought for sure I just destroyed your early release quad😬. I really do appreciate you allowing us to try it out and the time being around you was awsome! It’s so cool your down to earth about everything. 2021 we will be on the same podium( as long as you stay in indy😂, had the shot at the air-force museum but first race nerves got me)
I understand your point and maybe that is the case, the only thing that makes me think they may get the Goggles 2 compatible with the "old" air units is that they made the Goggles V2 compatible with the Avata, and following your thought this would not be done for everyone to buy a new equipment!
im pretty new to FPV and have recently got the Iflight Titan H3 with th DJI system.... i love it, made a massive difference to me when i fly, i can now see the ground and don't hit it... the only issue i have with the goggles is the battery packs... i use a fat shark case with two 18650's but its not ideal, yet......
Nobody seems to use the controller, I got the controller and I absolutely love! However, the darn thing starts to vibrate after 5 minutes when it’s powered on and I set it down. I can’t figure out a way to turn that off and since nobody really uses the controller I’m having a heck of a time trying to figure out if someone knows a way to fix that issue. I guess what I’m saying is that if anyone has any insight into this annoying problem please let me know 😁
Hey Paul, RunCam and DJI got to an agreement? Because from their posts on Facebook, DJI doesn't recognize the RunCam camera. 😬 Anyway, the discussion wasn't pretty. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
wrap the whole unit in painters tape, except the lip, and dremel the lip so the antenna do not pop off. Use one of these ... www.amazon.com/Dremel-Cordless-Variable-Multi-Purpose-Accessory/dp/B07R9PNRBD
Your price comparison for the items needed for an analog set up, it's, to my opinion, wrong. To get the range and penetration that the DJI fpv system has, you need double than the budget you mentioned. So DJI fpv comes cheaper not more expensive. And, so, if I don't mind (bulky) goggles, can I race with the DJI fpv system? If you watch this video in six months? What will you think?
Its so cool, just so damn expensive!! Here in Aus I can get a good BNF or build a 5inch drone complete ready to fly for like $30US more than the DJI or vista Air units here....
DJI should have paid this guy off to not mention the negatives. Personally, I don't mind the negatives except for the native inability to allow others to see your flights outside of Audience Mode.
Its soo easy to test man, i do static 25mw, kwad out back w fan, stand out front thru 3bdr concrete house, note mbps...put on new tennas, note HIGHER mbps..the end...YW ;)
You said the antennas pop out because of the lip on the air unit. Just flip the air unit upside down avoiding the lip. I’ve never had it pop out that way even after multiple crashes.
It would be interesting to test what kind of serial data is in the USB-C cable. As you may know lots of professional video equipment uses SDI or serial digital interface with BNC connectors. Maybe an adaptor could be built.
What do you think about the future? I really hope fatshark or any other company(WHY NOT DJI?) Comes with a digital module to plug in any goggles we want. I am a dreamer...
With crossfire you have technically more range you can fly 5-7 km with the right setup, but your video is nearly just noise but still flyable. DJI you fly 2 km and still have a flawless image. That's the difference. You just have no noice with DJI .
Agree on pretty much all points.. Couple of other gripes: 1: DJI themselves released a thicker foam padding for the goggles, reviews are mixed, but they've been out of stock everywhere for months so we're stuck with shitty overpriced TPU shims or printing our own ($10 for 5 grams of tpu is robbery) 2: the wiring harness that ships with the DJI is using the worst wire quality I've ever experienced; the insulation melts away at the slightest touch of the iron. And they have the gall to charge $6 for another one. (iFlight recently released a FIVE pack for the same price with silicone wire) 3: the camera is hardwired. If there was a quick connect at the air unit, it'd be much easier to build multiple quads and mount a camera in each (hint to DJI: more cameras sold) and just unplug the camera and swap the air unit between quads. 4: the SMA mounts in the goggles are really quick to come loose. I haven't overtightened mine and one still has a little bit of turn when I tighten the antenna down 5: lack of documentation: you mentioned in a video last week that you *think* 3 antennas receive and 1 antenna transmits, but who knows which is which.. You have your axii 2's hooked up backwards from the product page, btw.. Is one of the patch antennas assigned to transmit? (maybe you could test this btw?) 6: I can't believe the air unit is limited to 4S voltage. $1 more spent on the voltage regulator would've let us run 6S direct. 7: the antennas themselves kinda fragile.. I (and a few others that I know of) have lost the caps off of the tops fairly easily. Re: this video.. not gonna lie, I love your channel but not a fan of the multiple like/subscribe bits. (sorry, not a fan) Otherwise you were on the money with: 1: the antenna connectors (hate the mmcx, sma adapters are almost a necessity in most cases and further add to the cost) 2: people saying "the per quad cost is too much" while spending nearly as much on an analog kit 3: the strap suuuuucks 4: the power cord suuuuucks 5: the fit/foam suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks I really hope they address the blackout time of system reboot & reconnect, improve the quality of the included gear (c'mon, it's top tier, not budget, don't skimp on the small stuff to save pennies on a premium product), and hopefully we see more third party dji compatible equipment. Would love to see an even lighter weight alternative to the caddx vista, even if it were limited to say 700mw. Oh and it'd be nice if they included a little cover/protector for the usb-c/microSD slots on the air unit to keep them from getting jammed with grass. PS - In your recent video testing the axii 2s, you mentioned the dvr video was corrupted then in post you added "salvaged" or similar.. Can you share how you did that? I've had a number of corrupt videos that I'd love to be able to view. Keep up the good work!
Agree with you (and Nurk), except on one point : cost per quad. An analog kit is nowhere near as expensive. Nurk's figure aren't really realistic : every VTX (even brand names) other than TBS Unify are 35$ or less. And he even said that crossfire isn't 30$ anymore, but still counted it up as 30$... And there are plenty of very good, yet cheaper analog alternatives... There are good 20$ camera, great 20$ vtx, awesome 15$ antennas, etc... So, worst case, total for analog is 108$ (35 camera + 35 vtx + 23 crossfire + 20 antenna), versus 180$ for DJI air unit... But ! That is only if you use DJI's radio... If you use a separate radio with your HD FPV, it's 85$ for analog versus 180$ for DJI (plus a receiver in both cases)... More than twice as expensive for DJI PS : I'm not saying analog is better than HD :) I'm just pointing out that this specific argument should be in favor of analog PPS : lighter wieght alternatives aren't likely to come to market if DJI sues manufacturers for unauthorized products... For all we know, licensing fees could be enormous, and without competition, manufacturers have no incentive to improve on their products...
@@triggermovies I guess that's fair, though the air unit includes a DVR and diversity antennas.. To get those features in an analog setup, how much closer does that bring the two?
@@chipt4 yes, we could try to compare exactly feature to feature, but it would be an exercise in futility imho. In the end, most of us still carry a GoPro, and a lot of us would still use a separate radio. There's no doubt that the complete DJI package is reasonably priced imho, and the upfront price is similar to an analog setup. The price per extra quad is more, though, in my book.
@@triggermovies again, that's fair, but you'd be better off comparing it to the caddx vista (no DVR, single antenna) at $150 retail, $30 less than the air unit. But you're right, most of us run crossfire, or at the very least an xm+, so the built in rx on the dji units are pretty much unused.
The only surprise in there was you're using the stock padding for goggles. You should try the aftermarket ones. Fix the light leakage and far softer and more comfortable. Also loved the fact you mentioned the lip on the MMCX connector. Is annoying how those pop out so easy..
I heard that dji like glass and for beginner who willing to race or do freestyle is terrible, drones crash every day and dji shatters compared to analog drones. Fixing is expensive and no simulator will save you from crash since even pro crash everyday... One hit and dji is dead... Is it true that cost is way bigger to learn and/or fly with dji than analog? Ppl say that dji fpv is a hard way to learn and fly fpv since of price and fixing price...
Can't wait for V2 so I can get the V1s for cheap lol
I'm on the same thing man smdh 🤣
Feel you...
Likewise! :)
yeah lol can't justify the price over analog yet
I doubt it will be much cheaper than what you can already buy it from China right now going on DJI's history. I got the full fly more combo tx/rx/goggles for $800USD the other day.
Huh, the dji goggles actually fit me perfectly. I bought the dji made foam that is supposed to fit better as well, and definitely made it worse for me. I get the feeling the stock foam is for flatter Asian faces like mine, and the better fit foam is for pointer faces.
All compare between stock and upgraded antennas shows no difference, could you do the comparison?
thats what i thought too.....
100% upgrading the antennas made a BIG diff for me, flying at 1200mw. I upgraded from stock DJI goggle and Caddx Vista air unit antennas to TrueRC LHCP singularities on both goggle and Caddx. The difference was amazing. I got 1.3km down a beach with stock antennas, signal getting low and when I turned the quad around to come back the quad dropped out of the sky. With TrueRC, I still had 50MBs going both directions at the same spot. At 2km still 50MBs. Didn’t fancy testing further, but I don’t worry about signal often anymore. It may be that the extra height of the 7cm Air unit antenna is what made most the difference. But either way, I am now happy and was disappointed before. And they look heaps better!!
Flo-Rida FPV sure I’ll do it using a car in 700mw, to have more real world result, myself, the video I saw the stock and the patch gave the same result!
Mike Lanzo maybe the 7cm difference is the only thing that changed all!
At 1200mw aftermarket antennas make a big difference . I get huge signal drop and frame drops in one area where l fly with the stock antennas. With the pagodas i get almost no loss in the same place and yes l have done back to back testing. I didnt notice a difference between the pagodas and true rc singularities
This feels like a paid commercial....
This is so helpful!!! Almost every question that I've had got answered here. As I just bought the system. We need more real world situation addressing videos that list stuff people will run into. Cheers Nurk
Copy that! I'll do my best to find more things!
Nice job! Agree...So far I'm loving the DJI FPV System (just getting started in FPV) and that its also compatible with Caddx Vista (as I just bought a BetaFPV 9X) as well. Everything can be bound to my DJI FVP Goggles and RC so I'm not switching gear all the time. Wish DJI would improve those MMCX Connectors though (mine broke off 1st crash). Someone recommended soldering a piece of wire to it to pull it out (I'll have to try next time).
Yeah those mmcx are super obnoxious.
How many times did you crash you dji? How much so far dji it self amd fixing did it cost you? Do you fly in acro?
There needs to be a Open Digital standard. Any chance of that? Hate to be locked into one company and just their products. Good review ... thanks. Sub'd
Does anyone know if DJI are working on a v2 version of the glasses?
for sure they are, the market is hitting its teenage years, there will only be more money in it.
I'm running a mid range priced but high end specced analog goggle rn, and I plan to purchase second generation digital goggles when they come.
Just throwing it out there, dji don’t care for the hobby. There there for the money .
That is fine! It's called capitalism.
as long as we get what we want, who tf cares
And by caring about money, they're subsequently caring for the hobby... sooooo
No manufacturer cares for the hobby and more than the next. If we stop flying, they stop making money. So unlike industries that are essential to our daily lives, they have a vested interest in keeping us happy and establishing a competitive advantage to ensure we buy their stuff. DJI entered a market that hated them, man an awesome product, and won over a whole bunch of customers. Now manufacturers like Fatshark and Runcam have to play catch up because they weren't keen to innovate or didn't have the means to do it. If DJI didn't stir things up with their ability to invest millions into R&D for digital FPV, we wouldn't have it. Fatshark only announced their product after DJI swooped in and 12 months later we still don't have a working product from them...
Right.... and I suppose you think Fatshark are a non profit organisation who only make goggles to keep the hobby alive? 😄😆😆
What about long range mountain surfing? Seems like pilots like Jet fpv or Gab707 are not really convinced about this system for that kind of flying. Also what's your opinion about the closed ecosystem of DJI?
Here you go TH-cam algorithm, have another comment
Hey do those goggles have headtracking or is that only the RE version ?
I love the DJI FPV system too. Just wish for a couple additions to the system:
1: A 10-25mw HDMI-to-VTX. This way you could plug in your PC (simulator) and broadcast to goggles.
2: Type C to HDMI support for the goggles. This way you can output goggles' video directly to a monitor.
For industrial use, You could just hand a spare pair of goggles to the producer. They can use the HDMI as needed.
3: More elements supported via OSD (for iNav Planes)
4: Better handling of signal loss - for Digital & Analog.
5: (Perhaps the most important) Support audio on goggles! I want to hear the quad from the goggles.
Again, pipe-dreams but all of these are extremely do-able.
the dji don't have a micro-hdmi port? never knew that darn
Nurk has a video of output though, but I haven't watched it
just found this too: th-cam.com/video/0hv5pqc6kHE/w-d-xo.html
To add to this I wish I could use them to view the video from other DJI drones - It wold be epic if I could fly my mavic mini from the FPV goggles!
This !
The lack of HDMI output (and no, the 750$ Smart Controller doesn't count...) is what has been holding me from purchasing DJI's system.
I fly with friends and family often, not being able to lend them a spare pair of goggles and share the experience is a no-go for me.
HDMI-in would be great too, as would audio support.
If Shark Byte is priced adequately (i.e. price of SB system + HDO2
I'm already thinking about what V2 will be like this time next year.
1440P Stream
4K60 Stabilised DVR
OLED Goggles
Sub 10ms latency
Mmmmmm 😄
Idk about that yet but hopefully 1080p and lower consistent latency.
You are dreaming hahaha
I'll be happy if they get rid of some of the heat issues that holds the system back with respect to making it even smaller or for putting it in other applications (such as small RC cars/robotics) that do not have the cooling capabilities of a quad
Yes, yes, possibly, it's doable and absolutely. 😁
Nah, 1440p or even 1080p 144hz is far better than 4k60 purely because of how much more information you're getting.
I found it worked great for racing with some timing system imperfections. Made a video about running the Multigp qualifier all on digital this year on my channel.
So are dji mavics compatible with dji fpv goggles ?????
Does anyone know?
I got mini and mavic air2
&very impressed
Wish the hell they were. Love my mavic platinum pro, but love my dji goggles and my QAV2R even more. Poor Mavics just been sitting there since I got my goggles.
@@tt-vc8fd I've seen if you get litchi app it has an fpv mode slip ya phone in one of those vr headsets& it even moves the gimbal up & down with your head.look up litchi fpv on utube some aussie guy got it up and running.i ain't tried it yet but it looks pretty awesome.
P.s I got martian4 and qav250same as. 👍🇬🇧
Sick infomercial Nurk. But I’m still not buying shit from you 🙂
No worries brotha
as much as I love technology and wanna fly digital. I will hold back on the DJI system and wait for some other systems. I am just not a huge fan of DJI. they kinda are like Apple in many ways. and I'm sure Fatshark and skyzone will get a variable solution in the near future!
#1 Thing I hate about DJI goggles: NO HDMI OUT
If they had an HDMI OUT, I could screw wearing these POS suffocating bricks on my face, set them on the table, and plug them into a legit military grade 720p ruggetized computer monitor and fly off of that. I for real legit don't want to and hate wearing these d@mn things.
The weight drags your face down and rests on your nose, press your nostrils closed, and you can't breathe. I can adjust mine slightly to alleviate that, but then the line of sight is somewhat above what is straight ahead and down viewing for me since I'm use to working on a computer monitor... and I then have to look straigh ahead or upward while flying which is a ROYAL PITA.
Fix the damn goggles DJI. Make a box set version for people with vision problems so we can get closer to the screen and read the OSD. Just pipe dreams here...
Thanks Nurk! You are the man! thank you for your honest review! I am thinking to upgrade my gears. Currently I have Qx7 and FrSky receivers and box analog goggle. I want to move to DJI FPV, my question is should I buy tango 2 (crossfire) and DJI goggles or should I buy the DJI controller? What do you recommend ?
I just bought the Tango 2 and I am wondering the same thing.
Next time, you might try to reverse psychology with people. Do NOT Subscribe to this channel I beg you PLEASE DO NOT. You might reach out those 70% not subscribed :P
DJI said they were not going to support the RunCam 4.
Hey brother 👊👊💪💪
@@sleepingbearffg5008 Hey
Ah whoops I got that wrong somewhere
When Nurk said "subscribe NOW" I felt that in my soul lol
I could've got DJI and still can, BUT..
1. 2x heavier unmodded.
2. No small drones with cheap batteries for playing for long periods with many batteries.
3. Very expensive drones you can't relax with properly.
4. They have higher latency.
5. Image cuts to black immediately making it more likely to lose or crash expensive drone.
6. Only 2 cameras actually look O.K. (i own 4k TV's)
7. Dji is and always has been just a flying camera company for photographers.
8. Stress, worry, devastation, ect.
9. I'm not stupid.
Bought a GLR 1.28 track racing car instead and then my DJI Inspire 1 and a Raptor 650 Folding and my Futaba T10J and T14SG went in the same spirit.
Instead of Futaba, I got a new Jumper T16 Pro to drive my BetaFPV 85 HD and Mobula 6, which I was an idiotic purchase as that Jumper never came out of the box.
Brand new Eachine EV200 and two whoop are therefore lying and scrapping together with Jumper and it only gives a bad conscience.
Well, I have a "small" hobby project left too and it is a Sky Hero Spy Y6-900 with Dji Naza V2 and 4S engine system.
Without Futaba radio and an unwillingness to drive it with the Jumper, I am now thinking of a DJI FPV Fly More Combo instead.
If I buy a DJI kit with radio, goggles and air unit, can I fligh this with the Naza flight controller as well?
I have a Diatone 210 that got a kit EMax RS 2205 2600KV, Matek F722-SE FC and Runcam Split Mini 2 for 4S configuration with Jumper ...
As I said, Betaflight and analogue suck both energy and patience out of me, so last winter the Runcam went out with Turnigy Evo radio and it was aimed to also take the Matek FC out and replace with OneFlight and Caddx Turtle V2.
Then Covid struck and most of it halted.
Now, however, I want this 210 race drone in airworthy condition and I am thinking of stopping in a DJI kit instead and then comes the third question.
If I can fly Air Unit with radio in RTH centered GPS lever for Sky Heron, is there a possibility that you could easily change the radio to race mode with the throttle lever at the bottom for the race drone and be able to switch between these modes?
If I can get this done and get these drones in airworthy condition again, then the hope is to replace the drive system in Sky Heron with a 6S configuration for longer flight time.
If it does not work to run the radio in different modes and have GPS mode, then the Sky Heron might have to be an FPV drone, but in a larger scale to mimic a ”wing”.
How do you make your FPV Goggle to fit your face, out of the box it's terrible for me?
Is there an FlightOne FC that is PnP with DJI Air Unit?
Is there a DJI PnN Flight Controller with GPS to get a Naza V2 flight experience?
I need a jump start to get the motivation back, and BetaFlight is NOT the way to get me back on track!
mate..good job...i like ur vids :) i m flying more than 8 years...3d helis ..and last 3 -4 years i fly drones also...i just got a 6s beast with dji goggles and new radio with crossfire...love it ...just curious why should i change the stock antennas of goggles? whats the differense with the aftermarket? range or quality of image? both? thanks.
rsx-r $20, Any 800 mw VTX, $30, bought the HD3's with antennae and 2 modules for $250, and brand new QX7S with battery for $180. Once this stuff starts showing up used, for those prices, I'm down.
Im an Indianapolis resident Nurk, but in serious need of some help getting my OSD to work in my DJI goggles with my Taycan/Mamba F405 DJI mini flight controller. Works perfect with my Luminier QAV2-R. Even had Capn Mavic look into it yesterday when we maidened the Taycan. How can I contact you for a little assistance please?
I had so much trouble with dvr before last update. Strap sucks not good in the year of covid 🤣🤣🤣🤣 check out my dji water proof vid? My new favorite bird! th-cam.com/video/7tjm7lRCns4/w-d-xo.html
its nice knowing even pros like yourself make mistakes and crash, specifically the flying over water for example. thanks for the water bottle tip too lol
hehe - i crash over the water waaaaay more than I should..
id buy digital once theres more than one company making everything and prices godown, besides the caddx vista which is cool they made another option
Agreed on the "more than one company" thing. Caddx vista is just another hardware vendor obeying the same specs laid out by DJI. I won't change over until either DJI open source their code or another company or two offer an entire different take on digital FPV. DJI are just flying apple phones. Some people love their iphones. I would not touch one with the septic rod in a leper's pants.
sry but the price is way different I can get the best fat sharks for 4 to 500 plus the 120ish you said for parts , vs 800 for JUST the dji goggles and then another 180+ for the parts.. that makes it a good bit more expensive I could basically buy 2 sets of fat sharks ( top tier goggles) for one dji goggle set...
Re subscribers you got it backward. The fact that most people who watch are not subscribers is a GOOD thing. It means youtube likes your video so much that it is pushing it even to nonsubs and the nonsubs are watching.
yeah but we need them to also be clicking in! :-)
Do you think DJI have continued to show the same level of support to the fpv community in how they’ve made and set up the newer Goggles 2, or do you think the V2’s were their pinnacle for this?
And if the V2’s were the pinnacle, do you think there’s been a shift in what DJI are aiming for in their approach to FPV?
Thanks again.
Aye bro, your videos are cool and informative as hell. I subscribed from the first video i saw of yours (the explorer lr review). I don't know who wouldnt subscribe.
Anyway, I Just dipped my toe into fpv and got a tinyhawk 2. Have done a ton of research these last 2 weeks (a lot from your channel) and decided that digital (DJI) is the way to go for me because I'm not so tech savvy and the ease of use thing seems right up my alley, lol. But also DJI seem to be the leading innovators in the industry. I love camera drones also tho which is what I started with (zino pro) and I plan to get a skydio 2. I want to freestyle very well thats all. I'm a few days into this so far and I haven't really crashed much and I'm thinking about the simulator but I don't wanna but a controller just to do it. Anyway sorry to run on in your comments. Keep posting amazing content especially like that train video from a few years ago. That was DOPE as hell bro. You a beast for that one.
The DJI HD system does indeed rock. My biggest monetary complaint is the big pile of worthless analog boards I have here and I do miss all my custom OpenTX switches and functions, and the 4 transmitters (all equipped with Crossfire, one with 2W). My other complaints are mostly minor in the big picture. One problem was admitting DJI was doing something good, and overlooking that whole China business/political thing, which has (and looks like it will continue to be) something anyone who flys RC has to deal with, as alternatives are rare to non-existent. The other stuff doesn't even comes close to compelling me to even think of running analog.
The real big complaint is (as with you) the lack of an output so you can take people for rides. It's kind of a vicious thing, I often find myself saying "did you see that??, isn't this HD awesome??" only to realize nobody can watch. While it is hard to justify another set of goggles just to hand off to A (One, Uno, Singular) spectator/spotter. If they had a receiver I could hook to a display, I''d buy one instantly. A video out on the goggles should be a standard feature though, and I don't understand the reason there isn't one, technically, it couldn't add cost enough create any barrier, it would, in fact most probably increase sales, even at a higher price. The reason must be that it will effect other product lines sales or something like that. If it's obvious and I'm missing it, please point it out for me, I would really like to understand.
Thanks for the great long term test report, nicely done.
I like the knowledge you possess and pass on, but I'm not surprised you broke so many switches.
I have seen in many videos that you just throw everything to the table.
You have such a manner, and the equipment does not like it very much.
Apparently, DJI is just lucky.
Love ur recent vids dude!🔥
Love the !!!humor!!! and great information 🔥🔥🔥
Interesting video.
Concerning the price...BUT we do not all fly on TBS unify and top of the range analog stuff. For instance, I have one rig out of 5 with tbs unify and crsf and etc. So analog gives way more flexibility in the choice of components, rather than paying the premium price for all quads of a personal fleet.
Ccl: Dji is way more expensive than analog.
Hey Nurk, do you know if there is anyway yet to remap DJI FPV TX buttons and dials? Specifically the record button to use on naked gopro.
I do slightly regret not starting with the DJI FPV system. I just wish it wasn't such a closed ecosystem. FWIW I really don't like my HDO2s, when they are in focus, my eyelashes hit the lenses and the lenses hit my forehead if I put them up. I will, no doubt, pick up the DJI gear eventually, I just hope the pros outweigh the cons.
DJI customer service sucks though my Moto is if they don't care about me and my Issues with there products I don't buy there products just my opinion. You did say comment so it's your fault LOL!!! . Keep making great videos and if you ever make it to Minnesota let me know would be cool to meet you just saying. I never comment and see what you did now I'm long winded text. your videos are awesome btw.
Hi! My googles don't work. I have a message "image transmission stopped" they don't bind and most menues are inaccessible. Can anybody help?
I use the DJI ocusync system on my ranger 2000... with the head tracking racing edition goggles... longer range.
Completely agree with all points. The one only other complaint is that DJI Digital FPV is not compatible with any of their Drones...I am into this for the cinematic capabilities (Inspire Pilot). Why do we have to build a drone or buy a third party drone to be able to use this system...?
What are the cheap-medium-high end setup for long range in terms of Video Feed ? I am going with analog ev800d with lumenier axii patch and omni, and another lumenier omni on drone and still got like 150m of signal. Some tips on how to improve to a newbie ? Thanks
If you don’t have to get on a computer to transfer files, update firmware, and SD card on open transmitter then I will do digital FPV. I am not in any way good with computers and did away with my radio master tx. Too much technical stuff. I will rather pay higher cost for digital then mess with analog anyday.
First flight ever on hd was your DJI setup at Bloomfield. It locked out and I disarmed and your quad fell atleast 50ft straight down... will never forget that moment. Thought for sure I just destroyed your early release quad😬. I really do appreciate you allowing us to try it out and the time being around you was awsome! It’s so cool your down to earth about everything.
2021 we will be on the same podium( as long as you stay in indy😂, had the shot at the air-force museum but first race nerves got me)
I understand your point and maybe that is the case, the only thing that makes me think they may get the Goggles 2 compatible with the "old" air units is that they made the Goggles V2 compatible with the Avata, and following your thought this would not be done for everyone to buy a new equipment!
im pretty new to FPV and have recently got the Iflight Titan H3 with th DJI system.... i love it, made a massive difference to me when i fly, i can now see the ground and don't hit it... the only issue i have with the goggles is the battery packs... i use a fat shark case with two 18650's but its not ideal, yet......
you can pick up 4s 1300mah's dirt cheap, they work perfectly and you'll get a lot longer run time with them.
RADER FPV really I thought I would get longer from the 18650’s... thanks will look into that.
I'm sure you could get a good sized pocket battery that would last forever
NURK FPV any recommendations?
Congrats bro welcome to hd club....Get a vifly v2 n never fly without it ....YW
Nobody seems to use the controller, I got the controller and I absolutely love! However, the darn thing starts to vibrate after 5 minutes when it’s powered on and I set it down. I can’t figure out a way to turn that off and since nobody really uses the controller I’m having a heck of a time trying to figure out if someone knows a way to fix that issue. I guess what I’m saying is that if anyone has any insight into this annoying problem please let me know 😁
What battery do you use for the goggle? If you don't mind helping me with making sure I get the right battery for mine :) thank you! Big fan!
Thank You for introducing FPV to me too. And this video has been helpful. I was wondering whether to start with analogue or digital.
Is the DJI FPV compatible to all DJI drones? I'm new to this and if ever, will the analog be obsolete in the near future?
DJI FPV is for FPV race drones, not for the DJI Mavic or Phantom drones
not all drones but yes you can mate, mavics etc
Love mine. I don't own the Dji FPV drone but do have loads of AirUnits and Vistas
At 14:40, i beleve your problem is because your are mounting the air untir the wrong way.
Just got my 1st V2's, great video. Thanks fella 🔥
Really nice edit and good video as a whole. Informative and entertaining!
Thanks! Glad you think so.
thank for the Review man
tbs tango 2 crossfire + dji air unit is it a better combination than using dji controller?
So is it typically more expensive to build because of the added expense of the module? Or does it balance out?
One more down side: don't record osd and do not suport a lot of osd elements for fixed wing guys:)
Have to run Sbus to a receiver... but ONLY with the ocusync air system
Does the DJI radio work as a controller for the playstation 4 on DRL sim?
Hey Paul, RunCam and DJI got to an agreement? Because from their posts on Facebook, DJI doesn't recognize the RunCam camera. 😬
Anyway, the discussion wasn't pretty. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I'm seeing a love/hate with the FPV. Is it just me? I cant seem to find a solid consensus
They could just let us use our phones as a second screen as the smart controller is just an android tablet.
I just really wish the goggles were slimmer.
They could have easily been slimmer. Lots of empty space behind the front panel. Perhaps they left room for improvement for a V2!
wrap the whole unit in painters tape, except the lip, and dremel the lip so the antenna do not pop off. Use one of these ... www.amazon.com/Dremel-Cordless-Variable-Multi-Purpose-Accessory/dp/B07R9PNRBD
You should do an iq test to see if that had killed some brain cells too as well over a year😂
Great video! Thanks for showing clips of our museum!!! Come back anytime Nurk!!!
Your price comparison for the items needed for an analog set up, it's, to my opinion, wrong.
To get the range and penetration that the DJI fpv system has, you need double than the budget you mentioned. So DJI fpv comes cheaper not more expensive.
And, so, if I don't mind (bulky) goggles, can I race with the DJI fpv system?
If you watch this video in six months? What will you think?
Totally understood and I hear what you're saying absolutely
Its so cool, just so damn expensive!! Here in Aus I can get a good BNF or build a 5inch drone complete ready to fly for like $30US more than the DJI or vista Air units here....
And fixing is wayyy less frequent and wayyy less expesive for a regular fpv drone
Don't worry the new DJI goggles are coming in quite short time, so will be better for racers!
How do you know?
@@FPFPV there is now upcoming dji race drone, and it will have other goggles.
Rc Reviews Lt Source or you’re talking out of your ass.
DJI should have paid this guy off to not mention the negatives. Personally, I don't mind the negatives except for the native inability to allow others to see your flights outside of Audience Mode.
They should have! :P
Great for those who are just starting...$700...😂
Dude, im already subbed... Don't yell at me. Lol
I can’t justify the cost too my wife . So it’s a no from me.
Easy, don’t tell her 👍🏻
damn, must suck to have a wife like that
😁😁👍👍
im curious why you say change the stock antennas every video i watch aftermarket seems to be the same so i never change
Its soo easy to test man, i do static 25mw, kwad out back w fan, stand out front thru 3bdr concrete house, note mbps...put on new tennas, note HIGHER mbps..the end...YW ;)
air unit antennae ............file off that lip !!!! jeepers !
air unit antennae ............file off that lip !!!! jeepers !
Gits me perfectly 👌 way better than Fatshark
Wait! Whats this about not using the Crossfire tech i just bought with digital?
820$ for goggles and air unit is the big hurdle im trying to jump...ill just have to work a couple Saturdays.
You won't be disappointed!
Very interesting and informative video on your experiences with digital HD fpv. Saving up for my dji setup, happy flying 🤓
Had for 4 months. Haven't flew analog since. It's the shit. Even built a water proof dji bird th-cam.com/video/7tjm7lRCns4/w-d-xo.html
So are all your antennas LHCP for all your DJI stuff
You said the antennas pop out because of the lip on the air unit. Just flip the air unit upside down avoiding the lip. I’ve never had it pop out that way even after multiple crashes.
Yup i do same ...n e6000 glue mmcx to AU
using the fatshark rechargable battery pack with theses is a heaven sent
It would be interesting to test what kind of serial data is in the USB-C cable. As you may know lots of professional video equipment uses SDI or serial digital interface with BNC connectors. Maybe an adaptor could be built.
What do you think about the future?
I really hope fatshark or any other company(WHY NOT DJI?) Comes with a digital module to plug in any goggles we want.
I am a dreamer...
14:00 it fits my face too :) I think they made it for my type of face :)
Hello,
Have you used the dji transmitter on a fixed wing? If so how did you go about trimming the servos in flight?
I have not.
I'm confused now. You say the penetration from DJI system is great, meanwhile everyone else tells me that crossfire penetration is better?
With crossfire you have technically more range you can fly 5-7 km with the right setup, but your video is nearly just noise but still flyable. DJI you fly 2 km and still have a flawless image. That's the difference. You just have no noice with DJI .
@@TheGlitscher good ol digital...is good til suddenly it isn't.
crossfire is a control link. This is a video & control link. Crossfire is still the better radio link and will easily outrun video :D
Agree on pretty much all points.. Couple of other gripes:
1: DJI themselves released a thicker foam padding for the goggles, reviews are mixed, but they've been out of stock everywhere for months so we're stuck with shitty overpriced TPU shims or printing our own ($10 for 5 grams of tpu is robbery)
2: the wiring harness that ships with the DJI is using the worst wire quality I've ever experienced; the insulation melts away at the slightest touch of the iron. And they have the gall to charge $6 for another one. (iFlight recently released a FIVE pack for the same price with silicone wire)
3: the camera is hardwired. If there was a quick connect at the air unit, it'd be much easier to build multiple quads and mount a camera in each (hint to DJI: more cameras sold) and just unplug the camera and swap the air unit between quads.
4: the SMA mounts in the goggles are really quick to come loose. I haven't overtightened mine and one still has a little bit of turn when I tighten the antenna down
5: lack of documentation: you mentioned in a video last week that you *think* 3 antennas receive and 1 antenna transmits, but who knows which is which.. You have your axii 2's hooked up backwards from the product page, btw.. Is one of the patch antennas assigned to transmit? (maybe you could test this btw?)
6: I can't believe the air unit is limited to 4S voltage. $1 more spent on the voltage regulator would've let us run 6S direct.
7: the antennas themselves kinda fragile.. I (and a few others that I know of) have lost the caps off of the tops fairly easily.
Re: this video.. not gonna lie, I love your channel but not a fan of the multiple like/subscribe bits. (sorry, not a fan)
Otherwise you were on the money with:
1: the antenna connectors (hate the mmcx, sma adapters are almost a necessity in most cases and further add to the cost)
2: people saying "the per quad cost is too much" while spending nearly as much on an analog kit
3: the strap suuuuucks
4: the power cord suuuuucks
5: the fit/foam suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
I really hope they address the blackout time of system reboot & reconnect, improve the quality of the included gear (c'mon, it's top tier, not budget, don't skimp on the small stuff to save pennies on a premium product), and hopefully we see more third party dji compatible equipment. Would love to see an even lighter weight alternative to the caddx vista, even if it were limited to say 700mw. Oh and it'd be nice if they included a little cover/protector for the usb-c/microSD slots on the air unit to keep them from getting jammed with grass.
PS - In your recent video testing the axii 2s, you mentioned the dvr video was corrupted then in post you added "salvaged" or similar.. Can you share how you did that? I've had a number of corrupt videos that I'd love to be able to view.
Keep up the good work!
Agree with you (and Nurk), except on one point : cost per quad.
An analog kit is nowhere near as expensive.
Nurk's figure aren't really realistic : every VTX (even brand names) other than TBS Unify are 35$ or less. And he even said that crossfire isn't 30$ anymore, but still counted it up as 30$...
And there are plenty of very good, yet cheaper analog alternatives... There are good 20$ camera, great 20$ vtx, awesome 15$ antennas, etc...
So, worst case, total for analog is 108$ (35 camera + 35 vtx + 23 crossfire + 20 antenna), versus 180$ for DJI air unit...
But ! That is only if you use DJI's radio...
If you use a separate radio with your HD FPV, it's 85$ for analog versus 180$ for DJI (plus a receiver in both cases)... More than twice as expensive for DJI
PS : I'm not saying analog is better than HD :) I'm just pointing out that this specific argument should be in favor of analog
PPS : lighter wieght alternatives aren't likely to come to market if DJI sues manufacturers for unauthorized products... For all we know, licensing fees could be enormous, and without competition, manufacturers have no incentive to improve on their products...
@@triggermovies I guess that's fair, though the air unit includes a DVR and diversity antennas.. To get those features in an analog setup, how much closer does that bring the two?
@@chipt4 yes, we could try to compare exactly feature to feature, but it would be an exercise in futility imho.
In the end, most of us still carry a GoPro, and a lot of us would still use a separate radio.
There's no doubt that the complete DJI package is reasonably priced imho, and the upfront price is similar to an analog setup.
The price per extra quad is more, though, in my book.
@@triggermovies again, that's fair, but you'd be better off comparing it to the caddx vista (no DVR, single antenna) at $150 retail, $30 less than the air unit.
But you're right, most of us run crossfire, or at the very least an xm+, so the built in rx on the dji units are pretty much unused.
opens video, *likes* *saves* *comments*
Just dropped $2k on DJI gear! can't wait to outfit stuff.
Congrats! you're going to love it and make a huge different!
@@NURKFPV watch V2 come out like tomorrow
Things I don't love, the controller :(
The only surprise in there was you're using the stock padding for goggles. You should try the aftermarket ones. Fix the light leakage and far softer and more comfortable. Also loved the fact you mentioned the lip on the MMCX connector. Is annoying how those pop out so easy..
What fat sharks do you recommend?
Nice if you get free stuff for us folks way to expensive
shit.... already a year since i used analoge!!
Also analog for tiny whoops haha