I FINALLY Got GPS Rescue Mode to Work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2020
- I've been working on getting rescue mode to work the proper way for a few weeks now, and I finally got the settings to work the way that I expected! It's been such a pain to get it to work the way that I wanted, but now that it's there and in place, I have one extra fallback mode when I'm trying out super long range flights.
Original video: • Finally trying out GPS...
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"Why can't it just work?" - My FPV experience in a nutshell.
That's the fun of it. Fixing quad puzzels
Definitely not a hobby for those who don't want to invest in learning a new OS/System. From troubleshooting Betaflight to figuring out what the menu's on the controllers do. Many variables. It is rewarding if you stick with it though!
@@metrocaptain absolutly
@Benedict Nied F*** you....
The way I tested the failsafe is Land over 200m away and then turning off the remote. If it works the quad will take off and come back. If it stays it won’t work. Just in case you don’t want to crash your stuff 😉
You land and keep it armed? Or disarm?
Lmao this is a way smarter way, then I suppose if this works then you can test it in air to make doubly sure.
keep it armed. You can turn off air mode and/or idle prop spin so it does not freak out on the ground. Betaflight does not detect if you are flying or on the ground so as long as it’s armed it thinks you are flying and starts the return to home if the remote is turned off.
This is brilliant! Excellent idea
Wish I could like this twice
13:04 Betaflight is preconfigured to need you to push the sticks by more than 30% before it exits failsafe mode and gives you control.
You can change the 30% setting in CLI, to something more or less
Heyyy I'm the one that suggested the Crossfire CUT thing!! :) Glad it worked
LEGEND !!!
Thank you very much for your input, this will save me alot of frustration or switching back to FrSky just to get this to work.
Niiiiiiiiice... He didn't mension your name!!?? You fixed his life-long frustration!! He should send you his quad as a "Thank You"... 😂😂 Just kidding 😘😘
Wouldnt cut do the same thing though?! Set failsafe = gps rescue...!
@@stickboyfpv4742 CUT must be set in the module so when you failsafe the receiver stops sending pulses/commands to the flight controller and then the flight controller is able to trigger whatever failsafe method you configured in the GUI (drop, gps rescue, etc)
You look´s like me when the GPS rescue kicks in and is working for the first time. Awsome function for Long Range stuff!
I have been struggling with this same issue over the past months. The feeling you showed when something finally, FINALLY worked the way you wanted it to will hopefully be the same feeling I will be having soon. Thanks for sharing your struggles and success, it helps me out immensly. Stay safe and healthy
I always thought it was so strange that the GPS rescue mode was a big mystery with no definitive instructions, at least that I could find. Almost as if BetaFlight was found in a cave from a long lost civilization. Betaflight has developers, right? Why has this been a mystery for so long?
They didn't have caves long ago . Caves formed recently from years of erosion from bats and stalagtites falling .
Great stuff Paul! Your persistence pays off! Thank the dev's for GPS rescue, its awesome! Found a few ways to get around any electrical "noise" that slows down your GPS module getting a "fix."
17:43!!! That look when it all comes together!! Great job and thanks for explaining.
My daughter went to that school! You could see my old neighborhood from your drone! Know the area well and have had many DJI Mavic flights. Keep up the good work!
YESS THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS. super in depth, nice to see you show your failures and successes like you did. I am about to start my first long range build, first 7 inch build, first crossfire build, annnnd itll be my first ever 5s set up as well. Excited af to be building quads again. i haven't flown in months 0.0
I know that feeling EXACTLY! That’s why this hobby is so so great!
Excellent effort Nurk! Thanks
That was useful. Thanks. I like that brainstorm/ trouble shoot format. Keep it that way
Btw, you don't need a failsafe switch or mode at all, when it's coming back just move the sticks and you'll regain control.
He figures that out I think.
Jess & Josh Wyatt yup, saw he figured it out later in the video.
But why took so much time? I did that and the quad did not react, and I started to touch all switches, and I think I disarm my quad, and fell down. Are there, some seconds of delay?
@@grhosso yes, if you lose signal and the quad starts to come back you'll have some delay when it reconnects again, just stay cool and move the pitch and roll slightly till you see it responds to the inputs.
I've been struggling with GPS as well thanks for keeping it up!!!
Glad you stuck with this project cause I get the feeling that with some of the tips you showed in here, my GPS Rescue issues will be gone when I hit the sticks tomorrow. Thanks for the trial and error work brother.
Did it work?
Cheers for this man! I have set rescue up ages ago on an old quad and forgot how to get it set up so this was decent way to recap and just entertaining man! Away to go out and test now as heading across to the Isle of Skye in a few weeks and going to do some proper mountain surfing so wish me luck haha
This is so satisfying. The challenge of FPV is awesome in every level, even troubleshooting, followed by sweet victory and that feeling of excitement when you finally figure out the problem. ❤️🙌🏽⚡
Funny how there’s many ways to achieve the same result. I used crossfire Fs.pos to trigger rescue mode by setting the switches in armed and rescue position when setting FS.pos on crossfire. This bypasses the Betaflight failsafe protocol and goes directly to rescue. It seemed like there was less delay and reconnect time when testing by turning off the radio. I’ll try it your way on my next quad soon and see what the difference is. Thanks for sticking with it.
Awesome, glad you got it figured out!
Nice flying most of the parts for my first quads have showed up and I going to put it together this weekend
GET IT! Keep us posted on your first build!
20:32, I literally lol'd. This whole video was great, the challenge of the start, the struggle, and the eventual victory!
I think we can all relate to the struggle i know ive had that victory laugh before. Its like IN YOUR FACE KWAD.
Great job. Thanks for doing this. Really been enjoying these rescue vids. Thanks
Glad you like it! I've been having fun making them - at least when the damn thing works.
the ardrupiolit has auto land and auto mission and tons of other stuff, u might have some fun with that.
Newbie old guy here. My first Drone is a Holy Stone HS 120d. I am here to just learn and get ideas, yeah? Righteous dude!
those are great drones. I'm an old fart myself. After flying my son's Holy stone I was hooked. Now have a Tiny Hawk 2 amd an Armattan Marmotte 5" and now doing a 5" Catylst Machine Works build myself.
Channel fallback values are done after a failsafe has already been detected. So when you set failsafe mode (stage 2, receiver signal loss) from drop to gps rescue there is no need to set the AUX channel to FS also.Your main problem was Crossfire not triggering stage 2 failsafe at all. There is also a "Set Home Point Once" option under GPS settings. If you activate this it will only set the GPS Home point the first time you arm, meaning you can disarm/arm during flight and not change the home point to something else.
That is a great idea to fly 200m away and land, stay armed and test gps rescue. I tested my GPS rescue by arming the quad (removed props) and putting it on the dash of my car while I drove 200m away with the controller and flipped the switch. The motors spooled up and in my fpv goggles I could see the arrow pointing to where I drove from indicating things should work. I then did this same thing to test turning off the controller. Same thing success. So this gave me the confidence to try the failsafe in real conditions and so it worked.
Love the prop noise left in with music!
Dude, (Nurk) I have not flown since I got my FIRST lambo and watching you always pushes me back to thinking; Geez I miss this!🤙🏼
One more thing about your settings: the altitude setting is a bit tricky as well. It goes the value that you've set *plus* the highest you were during the flight.
That is so that if you have flown over something that's higher than your altitude setting it will go over it.
Highest altitude plus 15? Meters.
So glad you got that sorted out. I was scared after watching your video that my failsafe wasn't properly working, but I have r9 on my GPS quad, and the few times I tested failsafe it did work. Never shut off my radio though lol. Good to know all this today, because today's the day it moves to crossfire!
I FOLLOWED YOUR CONFIGUARATION SEEMS TO WORK VERY WELL, THANKS NURK
Great stuff man, glad I know about the crossfire settings before I try this myself, thanks. BTW when you were flicking the switches coming out off failsafe I had already read somewhere that you get control back when you put in a stick command and I was almost shouting at my screen the first time lol 😂😂😂 and I know turning the radio off is something you really need to do a few times to start to trust it but man that’s terrifying.
Thanks again for uploading these videos, they help a lot 👍😎
Love that positive attitude man, it’s contagious
Yes you have a little bit more confidence with going far !! Thank you for your video :)
Also very helpful! Thanks for sharing!
Great video... I am glad you got it working! Managed to get working first time after watching your videos first...
Nice flying!
Glad you got it working. Nice work!
Thanks man! Really glad that it's finally there.
sorry so late to the video, just going thru the same issues, glad to see it working and really appreciate you troubleshooting this on video. I had a feeling it was a crossfire issue since mine works fine on a RXSR and even a xm+ but on crossfire it only worked in rescue mode. Thank you so much will try this out tomorrow after work, weather permitting. I thought I was going to have to be quick enough to switch to rescue mode before I lost complete control, (not exactly what I was wanting), my panic mode is a little to slow.
Sick dude congrats !
Awesome! I'm halfway through my 8in qav-rxl build. And I can't wait to hopefully have the same success with gps rescue. Although I'll have an R9 handycap. But I have actually been lucky with its capabilities so far. But I am still definitely going to crossfire sooner than later! I need some TBS TRAPPY SECURRITY IN MY LIFE FOR THE REAL!
1.35 made my day haha you champion. Fresh cut looks good too man 👌😁
I remember been nearly that exited when we got this running on a multiwii board about 6 years ago. back then we had the same issue. got to get those rx failsafes right. we were using spektrum so we dropped it out the sky a couple of times before figuring out half throttle and rth switch on then bind to the rx.
Great info ! Many thanks.
Nice work bud.. I'm just about to do a build like this and this video will definitely come in handy
That's awesome, good work
Nice Haircut about time 👍🏻 Thanks for all work that you put into test
Congrate bro....i been following on this project.btw nice flying below the tree xd
haha glad that made you laugh!
Try to set ur gps ground assistant type from autodetect to ur region. I guess that prevents u from those sattelite drops during flight. Also disable the autobaud rate and set it to 11xxxx.
At least your a good flyer and can recover no problem,great video I’m just starting to try set gps up. Wish me luck.👍
Congrats on solving the problem, now we all have more information on how to implement the rescue mode, thanks a lot!
So glad it finally worked!
Please let us know in a follow up if you end up changing sanity checks back to failsafe. I'm going by your settings getting ready to fly and test gps for my first time.. 😮 Lol Ive had this for about 5 months now but I have waited and waited for a video like this to come out! Thanks for all the detail!!!!
great video but would have been good to also show the modes tab because i'm not sure when you set 1800 if the quad should continue armed or not.
Hey, good work sticking with it until you got it to work!
I followed the instructions under Oscar Liang and also set the Crossfire failsafe to CUT. Worked like a charm the very first time I tried it. Thanks lots!
I think the "Channel Fallback Settings" take effect in Stage 1, not in Stage 2. So the quad doesn't set the aux 4 to 1800 after 0.2 seconds (in your case); it just sets it to 1800 instantly. It's annoying to have it set this way and you have microfailsafes on the drone because the gps rescue will kick in right away.
If anyone knows something different, please answer :)
You still don't need it to set to return to home. If you have stage 2 set to GPS rescue, then it will GPS rescue. Previously it must have just been the crossfire sending a disarm signal that was the problem. Also, you can change all your GPS rescue parameters in the OSD now.
In BF 4.2 RC1 you can now stop it resetting the home position on rearm :)
nice good to know!
You could already do that before in the CLI. Only 4.2 now has it as a GUI setting... ;)
@@hateeternalmaver what does "GUI" stand for?
@@timcable GUI = 'Graphical User Interface' - buttons that you can press, as opposed to typing text into the CLI ('Command Lline Interface')
These are great videos. Thanks for sharing the frustration we all face! One question... what does a T18SZ do / have that an X7 or Jumper 16 does not, that is useful for FPV Racing or freestyle?
saved me some hours of work man, thanks a bunch!
My pleasure!
Thanks so much for the video! Did you need the magnetometer to return to home also or just the gps?
I’m excited to see how other software besides beta flight works. I’m just starting out and I’m wondering if other software would offer a better experience.
well done. Hey Nurk, can you tackle the same, using all your DJI digital set-up?
A tutorial for this would be really good, not many are going to be as technical as you and / or have the time or patience to pull this off.
Just in case you haven't heard in bf4.2 there's an option to keep the home point after disarming ( Will only be reset after power cycling the qaud)
if you use the fail safe on a switch. And you re arm it sets a new home position and the distance is set from there
Good job! Just watching this video gave me anxiety. I'll be referring back to this video for sure when I setup GPS in BF. Nice coat Btw, I've got the same one! How do you like the Pyro Patch?
Well I was kinda right. Lol. Thanks for the mention, bro! :)
I like that you put the crash in there ... keep it real👍
A very useful tipp. Set your homepoint to the location where the quad is going to power up. So if you disarm and arm again while flying, the home position is still at the point where you plugged in the battery. if you unplug and plug the battery back in, then there is going to be a new home position set.
thankyou i couldnt figure out what i was doing wrong this helped alot
Bloody trees😂😂 great video, one of the best I’ve watched.
Hey Nurk, this is incredible! Can you also do this with the DJI FPV HD modules?
yes
Hey, Nurk: Can you comment on your 7" setup? In particular I'd like to know what motors and props you are using. Thanks!
Cool to see someone from Indy
Note for RR:…don’t have failsafe as a switch. This for testing only, and may result in a false sense of security being that the test is in controlled conditions. Instead, being that we are more likely to lose video b4 rx, have gps rescue mode as a switch. In this way, if we lose video, trigger gps rescue. When vid is restored, resume control via stick command input.
failsafe set isn't necessary; in addition, stage one functions are what you'd want to set for failsafes; set throttle to a level that allows it to climb, set flight mode to level stabilized mode instead of acro or whatever. This'll stop the quad from being in a real weird unexpected position or very aggressive angle, and then it'll be in a safe spot when stage 2 kicks in.
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I'm at 7:40 and recall seeing a green ring on the xfire module during the first test - radio off, xfire still connected to rx = no failsafe, just no control = no gps rth?
a true hero,thx sooooooo much :)
The only thing that still has me puzzled is the channel settings for stage-1 failsafe...
If I had the quad connected w/o power to the receiver it would say in BF "GPS rescue switch in an unsafe position"...
So *if* you're using GPS rescue on a switch (in addition to failsafe) the value for stage 1 needs to be at the value where it would be activated on a switch. ... ?! ;D
what about your modes tab? do you have crossfire set up as 8ch? will you post your modes tab so we can see your switches. thx Nurk. I have been tuning my 10" and am ready to apply some GPS rescue. Thanks a million for this video
Nice👏... Flightones working on GPS RTH
Nice.. congratulations. Patience and perseverance wins.. enjoy. Hopefully now a little more peace of mind @NURK FPV
Surprised u had issues. Bardwell vid from last year worked first try. Glad it works. Make sure you’re far out enough. You can set less distance out too.
Same. Slapped on a GPS and it's been working like a champ since.
I think my problem was mostly related to crossfire and not having the right setting there.
Hi Nurk, I like you OSD setup.Can you explain to me how to get the altitude bars showing on the right hand side? and what are the multiple bars showing on the left hand side? what do I have to enable in the OSD to see the commands like in yours? thanks so much!
Could you put this as an article on your website? Will be much easier to follow when I'm doing my own configuration.
Cool stuff men I installed a gps on my drone but don't think it works lol lol 😆 but im going to keep trying and see if I can set it up.
Excellent!!
Hi Nurk
i forgot to mention that point, but you can do either way , if you let Xfire in "FSPOS" you will have to program the Aux channel "gps rescue" in the correct position
in your radio/RX this time, i don't remember the exact process you can do this way too.
But the best way is to select like you did "CUT" and set in BF the failsafe gps rescue AUX chan with the good value 1800
in your case.
when i had this issue my Xfire was set correctly to "cut" but the gps Rescue aux chan in BF was set to hold...and my Kwad tumbled down each time i switched off my radio.
By using only the gps rescue switch it worked like a charme !.
it is not obvious , 1st you have to declare an AUX chan for gps rescue, and then you have to tell BF that you did so, it took me a while to understand what was the problem.
Sry for my really basic English :)
Nice Channel
Happy Flying cheers !
Phil
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Well I can provide some info how I set it up on Futaba T8j with Corona receiver. It seams that FC doesn't see rxloss when i turn off radio or maybe it can see but doesn't react properly. My setup when goes to failsafe, then receiver sets failsafe values and holds them and it seams that sbus protocol doesn't have any rxlost signaling.
It's the same thing for inav with csrf. The only time you want pos hold is with a fixed wing with no fc or with zohd ko -piolet with the rth switch enabled when you record the fs position
copy that
@@NURKFPV I wouldn't mind seeing documentation from betaflight about this essential step when setting up a GPS failsafe. I can only imagine how many people lost quads thinking they had some kind of insurance
That was awesome and by the way nice car.
Nurk this is a cracking video and so helpful. So just to check - I have GPS bailout set for my failsafe and changed the delay to 2. I have NOT set a failsafe switch & have crossfire (on jumper t16 lua script) set to cut. Anything else ? Thanks man 👍👍
Thats nice nurk :) ive did it the same way :) But you have to have arm switch on and failsafe switch otherwise it will just disarm the quad :D
That's what happened! haha
That tree just jumped out in front of you. LOL Good stuff
is it possible to have it on a switch so you can have standard failsafe for normal freestyle and bandos etc? i really need both