M18 Milwaukee Track Saw VS 18v Metabo Track Saw Comparison Review. Plunge Saw Showdown.

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  • @heathjones9844
    @heathjones9844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know many have only just Re ent years caught on to these plunge saws but for me , it’s been a tool I couldn’t live without since my first one as an apprentice in the 80’s
    Festo now known as festool have had them for like 35 years
    I’ve worn 2 out on my 3rd , next one I think will be the makita xgt as I have so much of xgt it seems a good choice for me
    I love all your reviews , keep up the good work ! 🇦🇺

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was awesome, can't wait to see the big comparison video with all of them, I would really like to see the new Milwaukee and hikoki go against the Makita xgt one :)
    Btw in europe makita now sells 1500mm tracks instead of 1400mm ones.

  • @jumb0juice327
    @jumb0juice327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my opinion, 18v, 20v, 24v, 36v and 60v (flexvolt) should all be able to compare to eachother in a test because theyre not uncommon on a jobsite.
    It could also be interesting to see how some of these "shop" tools hold up against a corded version.

  • @ProToolsApproved
    @ProToolsApproved ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video mate! Very detailed! Being a huge Makita fan here in the states I always look forward to your videos. So much info packed in them, no wasted time, info info info. Keep up the great work! I aspire to make review videos as good as yours one day! I just got started, be easy on me, i'm learning!

  • @spbygga8123
    @spbygga8123 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have the metabo, like the extra depth of cut, love the dust bag supplied and the dust port. Miss the scoring feature. Supplied blade was pretty average. Overall good tool. Sold my 2x18 makita for the metabo because the 2 batteries was inconvenient.

    • @Therealphantomzero
      @Therealphantomzero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh man no scoring feature big Shane I was thinking of upgrading to the hikoki but that's a must have feature

    • @anthonyturner5319
      @anthonyturner5319 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Therealphantomzerowhy just set to 2mm or whatever, then takes 1/2 second to adjust to depth, only need scoring for some materials

  • @frenchyroastify
    @frenchyroastify ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Makita guy, I think the Milwaukee track saw is better.

    • @is5032
      @is5032 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m on both platforms but I’ll shortly be buying the XGT saw. The Bluetooth dust extraction feature has sealed the deal for me

    • @frenchyroastify
      @frenchyroastify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@is5032 I have the XGT model. An issue I have with it is if the front and rear angle screw locks are not just so, when tightened they will bow the base as the two are squeezed together. It can be remedied by adjusting the base and angle bracket screws.

    • @aaronoconnor606
      @aaronoconnor606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the XGT tracksaw I don't like the depth stop adjustment as much as milwaukee but the AWS is really nice to have. I have the adapter and a fein turbo for my dust extractor. It's a great system I also think the makita has more grunt then the milwaukee with a 5Ah or a 8Ah battery its going to be better at cutting hardwoods then a milwaukee and if you are cutting stuff up on a MFT type table the saw and material/sheets or wood are going to be supported so anti kickback features are rather redundant. The both have them but for what I use that saw for I don't find them to be necessary.

  • @baseballdude8491
    @baseballdude8491 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Folks need to stop worrying about differences in voltages
    If the size, weight and other specs are in same ballpark voltage should make no difference when comparing
    I've never been cutting with my Hikoki/MHPT or Makita 36V rear handle framing saw vs my Milwaukee 18V and said "damn these 36V's why are they cutting so much better" than the 18V
    But I did notice 36V's are actually lighter than the Milwaukee, Flex and Dewalts
    Stop the voltage madness-just want the best tool for the job

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Milwaukee tracksaw is lighter than the hikoki. Hikoki is heavier than the Metabo.

    • @HotForgeChaos
      @HotForgeChaos ปีที่แล้ว

      My M18 7 1/4 skilly cuts harder than most corded skillys. Probably just as hard as the 40v Makita and 54v Default I reckon

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL mostly referring to voltage Nazi's- does the 36V Hikoki have any more power than the German Metabo?

    • @glenndennis6801
      @glenndennis6801 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's about power and torque to the drive spindle. At 18 volts, you need 2x the amperage as at 36 volts to provide this out put. If the system is well designed to provide a certain output, then there is not much difference in which voltage is used. Yes, I know great efficiencies can be gained in higher voltages, but maybe not in these cases.

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@glenndennis6801 we've noticed the 36V tools especially the Hikoki/MHPT triple hammers to run cooler that the identical 18V version doing the same job-and the 2.5ahr 36V runs just as long as a 5.0ahr which folks seem to always point out "it's only a 2.5 ahr, your losing run time with the higher voltage with same size battery compared to 18V" this isn't actually our experience, the 36V tend to run cooler, have a bit more consistent torque and have longer lingevity

  • @is5032
    @is5032 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a great video. I’m considering the Makita XGT or Milwaukee. I have mostly Milwaukee tools which I love but I’ve always disliked their saws. I see on this one too it appears to have a giant motor housing that overhangs the track. With that and the battery up high I think i prefer the ergonomics and design of the Makita XGT. Could we please see a XGT Vs M18 track saw?

  • @Dtonk4609
    @Dtonk4609 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, you answered for me that metabo will work with Bosch rails

  • @richiejames928
    @richiejames928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always have one hand on the base plate one pushing when I’m cutting mitres with the trackasawrus. Can’t trust any of those hook devices. Plus lifting the saw off at the end of the cut to set down and move the track. can’t be assed to keep flicking the tab back in. Grief.

  • @MrTherbst
    @MrTherbst ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great detailed video.
    The obvious rhing you forgot to mention is how Metabo achieve 11mm more deoth of cut using the same diameter blade

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can't of watched the whole thing else you would know it isn't 11mm. The first test I did showed that.

    • @MrTherbst
      @MrTherbst ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Sorry my mistake.Metabo achieve that extra 6mm by placing the spindle bearing closer to the base plate.If you turnthe saw upside down you can actually see the cut out in the base plate.ok it's only 6mm but every mm is an advntage.

    • @rbproductions78
      @rbproductions78 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL can't HAVE, not can't of. What is it with us Kiwi's and our terrible grasp on the English language 🤣

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, nah, I was talking kiwi, not English.

    • @rbproductions78
      @rbproductions78 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL haha

  • @FixthisCD
    @FixthisCD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice but now I am torn between the 2. I was all set to get a Matabo. Maybe I better just save some money and get the Mafell ?????? I agree those Metabo track lengths are bizarre.

  • @aaronoconnor606
    @aaronoconnor606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the makita 40v the AWS feature is the best thing about it. The milwaukee has a few features I wish makita had but no auto vacuum is a deal breaker for me.
    as it mostly gets used in my shop with a MFT type table I built myself with a fence rail guide ,hinge ect,

    • @fuzzymoto1334
      @fuzzymoto1334 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Makita AWS is nice. I have the Milwaukee track saw and the Milwaukee remote to turn my dust extractor on and off. It's not AWS but it's good and it has a long range. DeWALT has a similar technology - a manual on/off remote.

  • @lyfeofsai
    @lyfeofsai ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you recovered from the vid, although a bit late to the game, missed ya

  • @UncleIvan1
    @UncleIvan1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    unless makita starts dropping a ball big time, not really interested in any other brand. Not saying they are bad or better in some tools, just not interested in purchasing. Of course its nice to see new tool releases, but I am good with Makita.

    • @MrTherbst
      @MrTherbst ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they have already dropped the ball to some extent by still using 18650 battery cells in a lot of there tools when most of the other major brands are using the 21700 cells.

    • @UncleIvan1
      @UncleIvan1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrTherbst 40v line is where it's at for pros ...when it comes to the 18v line makita likes their tools working for a long time. that's why their battery and tool connection is top notch and they last forever. Yes I'm 100% on board that the batteries give a power to a tool, that's why Milwaukee and Dewalt tools are constantly at the repair shop

    • @MrTherbst
      @MrTherbst ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleIvan1 I don't agree with your statemenent that only 40v Makita tools are designed for Pro's..........so you implying that any other tool Brand such as Festool,Mafell, Metabo,etc aren't designed for Pros because they are running on 18V batteries?This makes no sense at all.

    • @UncleIvan1
      @UncleIvan1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTherbst no, im saying if you are a pro and want your batteries to have the juice longer (because that is one of the most important things) , then invest in the 40v. meaning the 40v makita is probably better suited for pros. Not that the 18v tools can't handle most jobs. They sure can.

  • @ealdydar
    @ealdydar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Makita and the Festool. I like my Makita over Co workers Festool due to Makita has a plunge function. Im interested in the Milwaukee but no one ever talks about how the blade is on the splitter strip does it cut the same spot and not mess up the strip cutting 90 or 45? My Makita cuts at the same spot and would be a deal breaker if it cuts like the Dewalt in 2 different spots.

  • @donmcleod8307
    @donmcleod8307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review. Thanks

  • @Bence205
    @Bence205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just today I got to check out the Milwaukee at the tool store, display model didn't have the anti tip knob, only a black plastic button in place that didn't seem to do anything. I guess it's different here in europe, just like sheet sizes.
    OSB and ply you can get 2500x1250mm, but laminated chipboard and mdf is almost always 2800x2070 for a full sheet. Bosch and Mafell also use 1600 rails and they are a necessity for comfortably cutting these if you don't have a 3m track.
    Thanks for the video, good stuff as usual!

  • @michaelplays2449
    @michaelplays2449 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review !!! Thanks

  • @robertzhao852
    @robertzhao852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost bought the Metabo last year, because the Festool consume battery so quickly. But I can't find any information about whether this saw is compatible with Bosch track.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว

      Now you know it is. But be careful as the width may be different from the bosch so the splinter strip may be an issue.

  • @Chris-iu5ol
    @Chris-iu5ol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem you have with the track has probably to do with the "very competent importer" responsible for Metabo in this part of the world. I am German and since 10 years in Australia, know Metabo in Germany and how they operate over there. Big difference. Hikoki is coming with the Metabo plunge saw , and apparently already on the NZ market, (?) as a 36V version as far as I know. The scoring we did in the old day was just adjust it to scoring depth 😂

    • @robertrada4783
      @robertrada4783 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe you’ll find that Metabo everywhere in the world other than Germany is like Metabo everywhere in the world except for Germany. 😂

  • @baseballdude8491
    @baseballdude8491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new Hikoki/Metabo HPT looks very similar to the Metabo(German) version

    • @baraksinz
      @baraksinz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately. I love my Metabo HPT tools, but this track saw seems to have too many misses for me to wait for one.

  • @veitjacob9764
    @veitjacob9764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The big makita is the deathstar of saws. Drop it in the picture and everything gets dark.😅
    But nice review mate. Very detailed and even at 35min. no lenghty moments or unnecessary stuff put in.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love that saw.!

    • @veitjacob9764
      @veitjacob9764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIALtalked to a roofer who had this saw sitting on his workside and he loved it too. They switched almost completely to Makita 40v. Really impressive tool.

    • @HotForgeChaos
      @HotForgeChaos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cordless saws mind, wait til you come across the Hitachi 12 inch saw, that thing is an animal. My old man has one for me to repair and hopefully someday I inherit it

  • @wookieecantina
    @wookieecantina 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You chaps outside the US have the nice red tracks! Darn! Ours in the US are just plain aluminum. 😉

  • @C_V_u
    @C_V_u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since I use Metabo (CAS) battery tools, this video makes me sad☹️ Metabo angle grinders still rock btw

  • @gsantee
    @gsantee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Tools & Stuff episode without a Makita?!?

  • @StealthTinyhomes
    @StealthTinyhomes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The milwaukee slaps nearly all other tracksaws

  • @sccwoodwork6655
    @sccwoodwork6655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow on the 1st cut Milwaukee have almost no sign of struggle when cutting but the Matabo sound like it’s struggling. I own both the Makita and the Milwaukee and the Milwaukee put the Makita to shame

  • @FixthisCD
    @FixthisCD ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned Mafell, did you have a video of their track saw too? I did a search and I saw the little mafell saw

  • @LluisTheWoodWorker
    @LluisTheWoodWorker ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely stuff as always! Is there a vid with all the other saw you had on ur on insta?

  • @piknikist
    @piknikist ปีที่แล้ว

    I did watched most of the video, but I did skip through a bit hoping to see 40v in play haha👍

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I warned you near the start that the Makita wasn't going to be tested. One day I will...

  • @AkosLukacs42
    @AkosLukacs42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any tool review without the Makita duster? :)

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว

      Super handy tool...

    • @AkosLukacs42
      @AkosLukacs42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL now you mention, I do have a cheap Parkside duster, and use that more often than I thought I would

  • @phillipmoody710
    @phillipmoody710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a walk through on trady republic would love to see big box stores outside the US.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been meaning to do one for a while. And it most certainly isn't a big box store. It is a small privately owned store.

    • @phillipmoody710
      @phillipmoody710 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL even better I like the mom and pop stores.

  • @robertrada4783
    @robertrada4783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re gonna hate the Festool when you review it. 😂

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว

      Surely not.

    • @brandonbennett127
      @brandonbennett127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have the TSC 55, and I'm really tired of the dual battery. Plus, their batteries suck.

    • @robertrada4783
      @robertrada4783 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonbennett127 The older batteries with the adjustable belt clip on the bottom or the more recent “airstream” and following Bluetooth variations with the fuel gauge? I sold off the older ones before I got the blue Supercut. I run the newer ones really hard on that. No issues (knock on wood).

    • @brandonbennett127
      @brandonbennett127 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Robert Rada they are the newer airstream bluetooth batteries.

  • @saiiiiiii1
    @saiiiiiii1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They had so many years to get the perfect saw out. Really don't know how to feel. 🤷🏻

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos ปีที่แล้ว

    So do I go and spend a grand on the Milwaukee to go with the rest of my red shit or do I buy a corded Festool to go with the CTM Midi vac that I run? At this stage its almost worthwhile to buy the Festool

    • @fancraft1266
      @fancraft1266 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The festool TS60 is the best corded track saw on the market (in my opinion )

  • @DL-fg7tk
    @DL-fg7tk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hikoki wont fit on the Milwaukee track. the guide rail is just a little to wide and is too tight to push easily, even when adjusted right out. I actually took my hikoki into the shop to try, as i brought a dodgey makita track, and their are no hikoki/metabo tracks in Nz yet, can get a hikoki saw but no track!

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The hikoki does fit on the milwaukee track. Watch this video. The Metabo is identical to the hikoki.

    • @DL-fg7tk
      @DL-fg7tk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I don't know if it's my particular hikoki saw that's the problem or what, but getting a track for it has been the most frustrating experience ever. After buying the hikoki and a Makita track, cos there were no hikoki/Metabo tracks in NZ . The Makita track had high spots in the extrusion which caused the aluminium track to rub the base of the saw. Checked with a straight edge and yes the aluminium was higher than the friction strips. Grrr took it back to the shop, Makita said since it wasn't a Makita saw on it they wouldnt replace it. So took it into tradie republic to try a Milwaukee track and it was too tight. So forced to buy another Makita track and thankfully got a good one. Interestingly I tried joining the two Makita tracks and my original one was slightly wider in the square guide rail part, so the saw is sloppy/tight on one but good on the other! So, I have a hikoki saw running on Makita tracks, one which is unusable, joined together using Milwaukee joiners!

  • @toolscientist
    @toolscientist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:53 that's not a knob, that's a switch!

  • @zielonastolarnia
    @zielonastolarnia ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope hikoki waited to see what issues Metabo had since release and eliminated all of them 🤠 Yeah well, too good to be true - probably same tools except motors 😏

  • @edwardlogan267
    @edwardlogan267 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, a new Makita grinder has been released in Japan, Ga052. Any details?

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. Fastest cordless grinder ever!

    • @funkyllama639
      @funkyllama639 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Fastest cordless grinder is the german made Metabo 125mm WPBA 18 LTX BL or not? 1500 Watt motor.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not anymore. Makita have just released 2100 watt 11,000 RPM cordless grinders.

    • @funkyllama639
      @funkyllama639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL cant find this grinder. Can you send the model number.

  • @wearsjorge55
    @wearsjorge55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate makita have a track saw for cutting metal here in australia so youve probably got it there too.
    It only got my attention because its fully enclosed unlike the traditional makita track saw with the hole for changing blades. I wonder if its identical to the normal track saw just with a different frame.

  • @sirmalus5153
    @sirmalus5153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe Milwaukee will sort out the little problems with a MK2 version in a couple of years?

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that ✋️ 👧

  • @CrookedSkew
    @CrookedSkew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Milwaukee saw has a sticker which in part reads "Professionally Made in China" 😆
    I'm not knocking China. It's just that the use of the word professionally somewhat undermines the intent.
    Apple don't say their iPhone is Professionally designed in Cupertino and Professionally made in China.

  • @kayvaanshr1ke
    @kayvaanshr1ke ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad I bought a festool

  • @andrewlee4938
    @andrewlee4938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of dust 😢

  • @Nornical1500s
    @Nornical1500s ปีที่แล้ว

    im early for once

  • @trevorm7013
    @trevorm7013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a damn minute, isn’t metabo (the ridiculously named) hikoki in your part of the world?

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. I have a video going up tonight on Builds & Stuff to explain that. It will also be explained at the beginning of the hikoki and metabo track saw vid when I put it hp here.

    • @trevorm7013
      @trevorm7013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ooooo👀

  • @vangelisevangelou4545
    @vangelisevangelou4545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    metabo is better from festool have the best dust collector

  • @minialbinocuda1
    @minialbinocuda1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own both and the Metabo is significantly better.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It most certainly isn't.

    • @minialbinocuda1
      @minialbinocuda1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yes, it is. It has more power through harder material. The adjustments are more accurate and easier to implement. The blade change is better. The depth of plunge is significantly better. It is more powerful with the same blade. It has the capability of using off the shelf 6-1/2 blades with 5/8 arbors (standard here in the US). Dust collection is so much better that it's laughable. And it feels more premium. Battery placement is better. Everything about the Metabo track saw is better than the Milwaukee.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. It feels cheaper, has less power. Has the flimsyist blade change of any brand to the point I had to get three of them as the first 2 failed immediately. It is so cheaply made. Has less features. Amazing how we see things so differently.

    • @minialbinocuda1
      @minialbinocuda1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL that is strange. I own and use both, regularly. I keep the M18 at work and use the Metabo for custom woodworking. To me, the Metabo oozes quality while the Milwaukee feels like an average construction tool.

  • @vangelisevangelou4545
    @vangelisevangelou4545 ปีที่แล้ว

    change the rubber on the truck

  • @shadow2load
    @shadow2load ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With the Metabo, you can always start with a corded circular saw, a fine blade and a track. Even the ~$150 Metabo circular saw is track compatible. And upgrade to the track saw anytime in the future.