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No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on TH-cam. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL. Yours are much more informative.
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top. All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
Thanks, man... after several years of debating, "woodworking track saw or not" I'm going to take the plunge and get the M18. After seeing dozens of review/comparison videos and the fact that as a professional remodeling contractor i'm already $10k invested into Milwaukee, M18 it is! I do have several other branded tools, pieces that stand out in their respective categories at particular price points & features so I wasn't set on Milwaukee but in this case, it makes sense.
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
My biggest gripe is the lied about the cost. They originally said you could buy the kit for $549 then delayed the release by several months and massively increased the cost!
Hi Kevin, I have the Mafell battery saw too, do you have issues with the blade vibrating during cuts? It spoils the cut when it happens, is my blade causing it?
Eh, they are certainly good for woodworking. But for someone who's a general contractor, milwaukee or makita is about only way to go to stay on one battery system.
I know I already stated this on your earlier video on the Milwaukee, but I'll say it again here: I have owned the Wen tracksaw for several months. Other than it being corded, I'm really not seeing THAT much of an improvement over it that the Milwaukee or Festool give. At least, not at nearly 10x the price, compared to the Wen. And, the Wen also has anti-kickback, and you can put other blades in it (I think I have a Makita 6-1/2" in my Wen now). And, the Wen also has the "scoring" option as well. Maybe durability will be a thing to consider in the long run, but so far, I'm impressed with the Wen. And it was under $100.
I bought my WEN about 3 years ago, and it’s worked great for my needs. I’m sure all the other track saws that cost far more money are likely far better, but they all have a blade that goes round and cuts as it follows a track. Of course I can put any brand saw blade on my WEN. If I used a track saw all the time, or took it to the jobsite as my table saw replacement, perhaps I’d buy something more expensive, perhaps not, as then I would worry about someone walking off with it while on site. I’ve never done an angle cut with it, so maybe it’s crap for that, maybe not, but what I do know, is that when I ordered the WEN track saw, with tracks ($150) from Home Depot, I was also able to order a Grizzly bandsaw ($600) through Home Depot, along with a WEN oscillating spindle sander ($100) for less than the Festool track saw or the Milwaukee kit you purchased alone, and I filled my shop with 3 tools I didn’t have, but found I needed. However, I now see that the Festool and Milwaukee saws appear to be selling for less than they were, even a few weeks back, but not sure. I know there are those of you who likely have complaints about the Grizzly bandsaw, but it’s actually a great saw and, numerous reviews rate it as the best value bandsaw on the market. No, it’s not a Laguna, but I’m very happy with all three of my purchases, and in the end, that’s all that really matters for all of us.
Hey, a point for Milwaukee...if you are a veteran, you can pick up the pack-out kit for only $575.10. Im not sure of any military discounts on Festool.
Thanks for your videos. I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site. If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
Jeez, your title made me expect that this Milwaukee Track Saw (that I'm considering purchasing) would be a disaster, and you finish with "This is an absolute awesome saw! There is nothing wrong with it".(20:27). I can appreciate the point (that you and others make) that it hasn't raised the bar with any game changing innovation among the best track saws available especially since Milwaukee is the last major tool company to produce a track saw, but my take away is, it . Your statement in your title "But You Made This" nearly turned me off from considering this product any further. All that being said, may I say that I have watched several review videos as I research track saws, and you are by far the most informed and effective product reviewer out there. You're like a video version of the owners manual. I suspect I'll buy this since I'm already tied to the M18 system, and when I do, I'll be glad I subscribed to your station so I can review the features again. Thank you Sir!
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
So your right they finally made a track saw. I am a Milwaukee tool guy so yeah that's the one for me. I think with the box you could take out the foam tool holder and put sockets or other things under the saw. I did like the auto switch on the vacuum but I will never own a fancy jobber like that anyway.
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw. I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
I am Inclusively invested in Dewalt cordless tools (both 20vo/60v). Based on my wants and needs instead of a table saw this Dewalt Track Saw will do me just fine, just saying * I did have trouble finding the "Dewalt" 102 inch track at a decent price, but did find them on a site at a $93 cost net with free shipping and ordered one from them.
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
Powertec, now makes a track for the Milwaukee, track saw. I included the Amazon, description below. This track can do both bevel, and straight cuts. Would love to see an updated on the Milwaukee, track review using the Powertec tack, 71871. POWERTEC 110" Track Saw Guide Rail Joining Set for Milwaukee Track Saws Includes 2x55" Aluminum Extruded Guide Rails and (2) Guide Rail Connectors for Woodworking Projects, 71871
The Festool multifunction table allows their rail to be mounted on a hinge so it can be easily flipped out of the way when changing pieces and then locked down again when cutting. Will the Milwaukee rail properly mate with that hinge system?
Awesome video!! Can the Milwaukee be adjusted so that the shoe allows it to fit exactly to have zero clearance on the strip already cut by another saw so that both Festool and Milwaukee can be used on the same rail and BOTH saws will have true zero clearance without having to change the strip?
You mentioned the blade being proprietary. Is this still the case that only Milwaukee makes blades for it? Also, It seems the arbor cap link is no longer working.
I just purchased the Milwaukee track saw combo kit and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. The High Output XC 8.0 that is part of the kit is $199 at Home Depot. I saw the same battery, new, for $110. I've watched a bunch of videos, and by now, I'm sure you have an opinion on what battery you would use in this saw, being you've been using it for a while. Whatever insight you can give is greatly appreciated.
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
I wish Milwaukee offered a corded version of this saw. While I can see the advantage of a battery powered saw in some circumstances, I don't see it for use in a shop. You're going to want to use it with a dust collection hose attached, so the electrical cord isn't much of an added hinderance. Instead, the battery adds extra weight and future expense. Batteries wear out and are expensive to replace.
Is the spring to plunge too tight for anyone else? The plunge on my Milwaukee takes a lot of strength, I can barely keep it down with 1 hand. I have a festool track saw and I can plunge that with 2 fingers. My other issue is the bevel degree indicator shows 44 when tilted all the way. I don't see any micro adjustment for this. Thanks
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features. There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk. Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it. I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories. Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident. Ignorance is bliss right!
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
Thanks for this excellent comparison, although I am still a little conflicted. Here is what happened: apparently my insurance company has been overcharging me for my auto insurance over the past year, so they recently sent me a check for a little over a grand! Pretty sweet. Of course I am going to use the funds to get myself a new toy. I love my Makita track saw, but heck, I think it is time for something new. I am leaning towards the Festool TSC 55 KEB, because it will give me an excuse to eventually buy their excellent dust collection system. One can never have too many tools and for me, accuracy is King!
i have the festool TS55 track saw with a regular 220v (im in Denmark) but i have no festool battery machines. i do have a bunch of milwaukee m18 and m12 tools, would you recommend the milwaukee track saw or should i get the festool cordless one since im alrdy used to festool saws
Thanks! That's what I thought. I have a few 6 1/2 inch circular saws already and prefer the size and weight to the 7 1/4. I was confused about what made it require a proprietary blade.
There are quite a few other brands that make blades to suit the festool saws of all kinds, our local building supplier carry all sorts from cheap blades at around $20 each in the 160mm to nicer than the festool blades at around $300
Any ideas I’ll apréciate I’m a Milwaukee fab I have many Milwaukee battery tools I don’t know if I want to buy a Fest tool track saw or the Milwaukee Id like 👍 suggestion in your experience thanks
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
I'm definitely going to buy the Milwaukee Track Saw Kit as I am already on the system. The upside of buying the kit from Acme Tools was the clamps being included in their kit along with the track saw carry bag, they're not included anymore. Wish I would've seen the video sooner. Are the clamps proprietary as well or can we use any track saw clamp out in the market already?
TSO released a statement that their current items will not work with Milwaukee's track. Just went and checked the milwaukee track in the track holders and they do fit.
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
Does anyone know if the M18 track saw will fit on the Kreg tracks? I am wondering about the possible options with the Kreg ACS table. Thanks for sharing!
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review. I have mine coming this next week. Question: I am looking for a way to have a button on the Milwaukee track saw that I can press to activate my shop vac. I have a Fenn that has an option to plug in a (corded) power-tool so when the tool is turned on the vac comes on, dwells for 8 seconds after finishing. Is there a device besides Fastcap RCV Remote ? That option seems troublesome because the manufacturer says don’t use on any vacuum or power-tool that has a 12 amp or greater draw. It is a unit plugged into the wall outlet and then the vacuum is plugged into the RCV. So. Is there a Bluetooth device that plugs directly into the Fenn onboard receptacle with a remote button attached to the track saw? Thanks. Hope you can help.
i don't understand the comment about proprietary blade. isn't 6 1/2" very common blade size with almost all new circular saws? is it the fact this is track saw specific? how long will that last? it seems like diablo has a blade for everything.
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
@731 Woodworks have you notice any issues using the TSO attachments with the Milwaukee Track?? I was looking into the rail square but wondering if there not compatible?
It is not compatible. Got an email from them shortly after filming this video stating that it is not compatible. Below is their statement: "At first look, the Milwaukee guide rail appears to be patterned after the Festool and Makita profiles. However, closer examination shows that multiple critical dimensions are different enough on the Milwaukee guide rail to interfere with the performance expected from TSO accessories. As a result, our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide System are currently not compatible with the Milwaukee guide rail. Stay tuned for more."
Spencer Lewis at Insider Carpentry noticed that the Milwaukee saw on the Festool track lines up with the splinter guard differently at 90 degrees vs 45 degrees. Is that also the case with the Milwaukee track (i.e. does the blade line up with the splinter guard regardless of the angle if you use the Milwaukee track)?
I saw the TSO 90degree guide attached to the milwaukee track, do you know if the Benchdog guide is also compatible due to the thickness of the center being slightly bigger than festool's?
FYI, both Ryobi and Milwaukee are owned by Techtronic Industries, based in Hong Kong. Milwaukee was an American company that got bought by Techtronic, and I think a lot of their research and development is still based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In 2022, Milwaukee also opened a new engineering office in downtown Chicago. Have you ever tried the Makita track saw? I don't have a track saw. If I end up buying one, I'll either get the Milwaukee or a Makita since I have batteries and chargers for both platforms. I think the Makita saw doesn't have a riving knife, but some other reviews suggest that it cuts very clean. I have a shop vacuum that uses Makita's bluetooth system to turn on a shop vac via blootooth when you start up a compatible Makita tool, which is nice. I think riving knives are absolutely necessary on table saws, but I'm not sure if I think they're absolutely necessary on track saws.
Just as an aside, the Ryobi name is licensed from a Japanese industrial tool company that doesn’t make power tools, the actual Ryobi company has nothing to do with the Gatorade green tools So it’s a HK company licensing a Japanese brand name to sell tools exclusively at Home Depot in the USA Globalization in a nutshell
Hello! Thanks for the great videos! Do you know if the Milwaukee is compatible with the track for the Wen track saw? The tracks are MUCH cheaper and I have plenty of batteries and chargers for Milwaukee so hoping to save a few dollars...
Finally got around to picking this up. Upgrading from the corded DeWalt. Been rocking that saw since brushed / NiCad was the only cordless option. It would be cool if you could get the red track in the states. Then again, it might get hard on the eyes. Question, is your riving knife a sheet-of-paper thickness away from the blade?
what do i do if im on both makita and milwaukee platform? festool because it has two more features that are better, i also have a dust extractor from festool, non bluetooth though.
This was a GREAT review. Unfortunately, in terms of cordless tools, I'm already vested in DeWalt, or I would've gone with Milwaukee. That's one of the many reasons the batteries are so expensive. But, I digress... So, I've got a 60v circular saw, and didn't like DeWalts either. So, in my search for track's I came across a site called TrueTrac. It's one of the best companies I've ever dealt with, on every level. I wound up purchasing several of their products (i.e. table track setup track channels), because of the phenomenal quality and customer service. Not trying to steal any of Milwaukee's thunder, or hijack this review, but until my own search, I had no idea TrueTrac even existed. I needed something of incredible quality that was universal. If this doesn't suit you, and you're already vested in your saws, then check them out. 👍
bro milwaulkee is trash for the price. dewalts track saw is stupid powerful. i like truetrac btw but i personally think that powertec ones are pretty good for the price.
@@dougupah8778 That's a good question, Doug. I honestly don't know. Honestly I bought it out of desperation, and was a bit cynical because it's expensive. When it arrived I was astonished at the quality of this stuff. I ran into some issues mounting the adapter plate to my saw (which has a unique setup), and I sent the saw to them, and they mounted it for me, and sent it back with extra parts for the future. Just a great (yet, small) company, with really good products, if you're in the same boat as me.
@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 Interesting... That's one of the few negative comments I've heard about Milwaukee. Mind you, I'm referring to their lithium product line. They're ALL expensive, brother. I got burnt by two bad DeWalt batteries. They replaced one, to their credit. But, it left a bad taste in my mouth. That said, the DeWalt tools themselves have held up very well, I have to say. Although, I am having issues with my oscillating tool getting really hot at the handle. Anyway....it's a moot point now, I'm so deep into DeWalt tools, that I'll be buried with them. I can't remember why I didn't buy the DeWalt track saw....I think it was because I'm using a heavy duty 60v circular saw, not the "plunge" style (if I recall). That said, it all worked out in the end with the TrueTrac I wound up getting. Just wanted to share that info, for anyone who was in the same boat. 👍
@@phillamoore157 If it is I had bought one approximately 20 years ago under the name of EZ(and when I google EZ system it takes me to the True Trac site), knew the creator/inventor of it, worked good, had some really good features and was considerably less money then the current track saw models.
I got another brand of track saw recently. Some thin jobs were easy enough to set up and cut and then I decided to take a cut to straighten up and old door on the hinge side, it was bowed out of shape over the years. I realized why this type of saw would have been better with the blade on the left so that on wide jobs a right handed person can walk past the left edge of the job as they go. I had to use the saw left handed to do the job. And so I began to wonder why so many "Skil" like saws have the blade on the right for the same problematic reason. Anyway thats my 2 cents worth.
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No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
I appreciate that you buy many of the tools you review yourself.
IMHO there are way too many “sponsored” tool reviews on TH-cam.
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on TH-cam. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL.
Yours are much more informative.
I appreciate that!
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
I think Mikita Tracksaw is great for the price. Well I got the corded version since I'm in team yellow.
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
Great in-depth video. You do a great job going over every little details on these tools reviews!
I appreciate that!
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
That's right!
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
I just got the milwaukee saw and router for 389! Good to know the wen track works for the milwaukee
@@DeathLikeWebz How did you manage to get that deal?
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
Thanks
Not sure how I missed this! Sorry for the delayed response but THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top.
All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
Makita cordless all day, quality piece of kit, and for the price! Thanks for the video.
Thanks, man... after several years of debating, "woodworking track saw or not" I'm going to take the plunge and get the M18. After seeing dozens of review/comparison videos and the fact that as a professional remodeling contractor i'm already $10k invested into Milwaukee, M18 it is! I do have several other branded tools, pieces that stand out in their respective categories at particular price points & features so I wasn't set on Milwaukee but in this case, it makes sense.
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
Diablo it is a Freud's brand.
Freud (Frese Udinesi) is an italian company bought some years ago by Bosch.
You need to compare the 2-battery Makita, now that you've covered most of the other bases.
I'm pretty sure he'd be happy to do it if you purchased and sent him one. ;)
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
My biggest gripe is the lied about the cost. They originally said you could buy the kit for $549 then delayed the release by several months and massively increased the cost!
still beats the 1500$ festool in price
I like Festool but for a track saw I chose Makita and saved a few bucks. And am more than happy with it.
Best choice
I'm using team red MAFELL.
Hi Kevin, I have the Mafell battery saw too, do you have issues with the blade vibrating during cuts? It spoils the cut when it happens, is my blade causing it?
Eh, they are certainly good for woodworking. But for someone who's a general contractor, milwaukee or makita is about only way to go to stay on one battery system.
The pack out box system
Is 10x festainers
@@dimr1088if you want 1 battery system then the CAS system is the way to go
Man mafell to dang expensive
I know I already stated this on your earlier video on the Milwaukee, but I'll say it again here: I have owned the Wen tracksaw for several months. Other than it being corded, I'm really not seeing THAT much of an improvement over it that the Milwaukee or Festool give. At least, not at nearly 10x the price, compared to the Wen. And, the Wen also has anti-kickback, and you can put other blades in it (I think I have a Makita 6-1/2" in my Wen now). And, the Wen also has the "scoring" option as well. Maybe durability will be a thing to consider in the long run, but so far, I'm impressed with the Wen. And it was under $100.
Wow it's under 100, that's nice. A little bald birdy told me it doesn't handle the angled/ mitre cuts very well?
@@joegeorge4608 At that price, why not get two or three and set each one at a standard angle, 90, 45, 30?
You'll have to actually try the others before your point is valid. I get premis but it's all perception to you
I bought my WEN about 3 years ago, and it’s worked great for my needs. I’m sure all the other track saws that cost far more money are likely far better, but they all have a blade that goes round and cuts as it follows a track. Of course I can put any brand saw blade on my WEN. If I used a track saw all the time, or took it to the jobsite as my table saw replacement, perhaps I’d buy something more expensive, perhaps not, as then I would worry about someone walking off with it while on site. I’ve never done an angle cut with it, so maybe it’s crap for that, maybe not, but what I do know, is that when I ordered the WEN track saw, with tracks ($150) from Home Depot, I was also able to order a Grizzly bandsaw ($600) through Home Depot, along with a WEN oscillating spindle sander ($100) for less than the Festool track saw or the Milwaukee kit you purchased alone, and I filled my shop with 3 tools I didn’t have, but found I needed. However, I now see that the Festool and Milwaukee saws appear to be selling for less than they were, even a few weeks back, but not sure.
I know there are those of you who likely have complaints about the Grizzly bandsaw, but it’s actually a great saw and, numerous reviews rate it as the best value bandsaw on the market. No, it’s not a Laguna, but I’m very happy with all three of my purchases, and in the end, that’s all that really matters for all of us.
Compatibility of accessories might be a factor.
Hey, a point for Milwaukee...if you are a veteran, you can pick up the pack-out kit for only $575.10. Im not sure of any military discounts on Festool.
CMT and others have blades for both of those track saws. There are several options besides the OEM blades. Taytools sells them, for one.
I just found a cmt 165mm to fit this on taytools. Thanks
Thanks for your videos.
I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
I also bought the Makita 36v dual battery track saw. Couldn't be happier, definitely a lot cheaper than this Milwaukee
Another vote for the Makita, it’s amazing, love that 36v
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site.
If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
Totally agree
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
Jeez, your title made me expect that this Milwaukee Track Saw (that I'm considering purchasing) would be a disaster, and you finish with "This is an absolute awesome saw! There is nothing wrong with it".(20:27). I can appreciate the point (that you and others make) that it hasn't raised the bar with any game changing innovation among the best track saws available especially since Milwaukee is the last major tool company to produce a track saw, but my take away is, it . Your statement in your title "But You Made This" nearly turned me off from considering this product any further. All that being said, may I say that I have watched several review videos as I research track saws, and you are by far the most informed and effective product reviewer out there. You're like a video version of the owners manual. I suspect I'll buy this since I'm already tied to the M18 system, and when I do, I'll be glad I subscribed to your station so I can review the features again. Thank you Sir!
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
milwaukee fanboys crying
@@gm08351 don’t be a keyboard muppet
It is clearly a copy of the Festool minus the patented items XD
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
Freud also makes a 6-1/2 20mm tracksaw blade...it cuts so nice.
So your right they finally made a track saw. I am a Milwaukee tool guy so yeah that's the one for me. I think with the box you could take out the foam tool holder and put sockets or other things under the saw. I did like the auto switch on the vacuum but I will never own a fancy jobber like that anyway.
debating between the M18 vs makita... leaning towards makita though
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw.
I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
Key blades make a great alternative up the festool blades.
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
Anti tip tab on the milwaukee doesn't seem to fit the makita tracks unfortunately 😅
driving knife prevents from downing plunge cuts, which is the whole point of track saws
I am Inclusively invested in Dewalt cordless tools (both 20vo/60v). Based on my wants and needs instead of a table saw this Dewalt Track Saw will do me just fine, just saying
* I did have trouble finding the "Dewalt" 102 inch track at a decent price, but did find them on a site at a $93 cost net with free shipping and ordered one from them.
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
Powertec, now makes a track for the Milwaukee, track saw. I included the Amazon, description below. This track can do both bevel, and straight cuts. Would love to see an updated on the Milwaukee, track review using the Powertec tack, 71871.
POWERTEC 110" Track Saw Guide Rail Joining Set for Milwaukee Track Saws Includes 2x55" Aluminum Extruded Guide Rails and (2) Guide Rail Connectors for Woodworking Projects, 71871
The Festool multifunction table allows their rail to be mounted on a hinge so it can be easily flipped out of the way when changing pieces and then locked down again when cutting. Will the Milwaukee rail properly mate with that hinge system?
Awesome video!! Can the Milwaukee be adjusted so that the shoe allows it to fit exactly to have zero clearance on the strip already cut by another saw so that both Festool and Milwaukee can be used on the same rail and BOTH saws will have true zero clearance without having to change the strip?
Will the milwaukee fit in the festool tracksaw systainer?
Where can I get the track parallel guide you were using while ripping the plywood...?
You mentioned the blade being proprietary. Is this still the case that only Milwaukee makes blades for it?
Also, It seems the arbor cap link is no longer working.
I just purchased the Milwaukee track saw combo kit and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. The High Output XC 8.0 that is part of the kit is $199 at Home Depot. I saw the same battery, new, for $110. I've watched a bunch of videos, and by now, I'm sure you have an opinion on what battery you would use in this saw, being you've been using it for a while. Whatever insight you can give is greatly appreciated.
Is it possible to do a Makita track saw comparison? You really outlined the features and differences between the two. Thanks
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
Yeah, it has a lock button though. Not a big deal, IMO
@@731Woodworks I agree. Just another difference.
@@731Woodworks when are you going to compare the Mafell track saw
@@rickyperkins232 ....Mafell is in another league. Wish i could own one.
I wish I weren't so cheap, I have been clamping levels to plywood for years as saw guides for my occasional projects and this looks so much better...
Does the milwaukee track fit in the holders you have on the garage door for the festool tracks, if so can I have a link for those
I wish Milwaukee offered a corded version of this saw. While I can see the advantage of a battery powered saw in some circumstances, I don't see it for use in a shop. You're going to want to use it with a dust collection hose attached, so the electrical cord isn't much of an added hinderance. Instead, the battery adds extra weight and future expense. Batteries wear out and are expensive to replace.
Curious which blade you used when you rip cut walnut. Was it 24 tooth ripcut blade or the finish or fine finish blade?
Is the spring to plunge too tight for anyone else? The plunge on my Milwaukee takes a lot of strength, I can barely keep it down with 1 hand. I have a festool track saw and I can plunge that with 2 fingers. My other issue is the bevel degree indicator shows 44 when tilted all the way. I don't see any micro adjustment for this. Thanks
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features.
There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk.
Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it.
I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories.
Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident.
Ignorance is bliss right!
Can you supply a link or info on the TSO comment. I've not seen anything, and can't locate any such comment about compatibility with the Milwaukee.
Go check out WittWorks TH-cam channel. He has it on a Short video
For a weekend warrior how does Kreg matchup with Rigid track saw?
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
@@m.d.d.3051 thanks, maybe I’ll consider them next time. So far my Kapex is cutting through wood like butter.
Awesome video! great to see an in depth video on them both, out of curiosity, have you ever tried the Mafell version of the track saw?
will the 8ah batter fit on this or will is the handle in the way? thanks
Thanks for this excellent comparison, although I am still a little conflicted. Here is what happened: apparently my insurance company has been overcharging me for my auto insurance over the past year, so they recently sent me a check for a little over a grand! Pretty sweet. Of course I am going to use the funds to get myself a new toy. I love my Makita track saw, but heck, I think it is time for something new. I am leaning towards the Festool TSC 55 KEB, because it will give me an excuse to eventually buy their excellent dust collection system. One can never have too many tools and for me, accuracy is King!
i have the festool TS55 track saw with a regular 220v (im in Denmark) but i have no festool battery machines. i do have a bunch of milwaukee m18 and m12 tools, would you recommend the milwaukee track saw or should i get the festool cordless one since im alrdy used to festool saws
Actually, you could buy Diablo blades to use on the Milwaukee track saw, and with the festool you only use festool blades which gets pricey.
Thanks! That's what I thought. I have a few 6 1/2 inch circular saws already and prefer the size and weight to the 7 1/4. I was confused about what made it require a proprietary blade.
There are quite a few other brands that make blades to suit the festool saws of all kinds, our local building supplier carry all sorts from cheap blades at around $20 each in the 160mm to nicer than the festool blades at around $300
Any ideas I’ll apréciate I’m a Milwaukee fab I have many Milwaukee battery tools I don’t know if I want to buy a Fest tool track saw or the Milwaukee
Id like 👍 suggestion in your experience thanks
Will the Milwaukee track saw work on a Makita guide track?
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
I'm definitely going to buy the Milwaukee Track Saw Kit as I am already on the system. The upside of buying the kit from Acme Tools was the clamps being included in their kit along with the track saw carry bag, they're not included anymore. Wish I would've seen the video sooner.
Are the clamps proprietary as well or can we use any track saw clamp out in the market already?
Does the Milwaukee Track fit in the Fast Cap Track holders? Also any info on TSO stuff with the Milwaukee Track.
TSO released a statement that their current items will not work with Milwaukee's track. Just went and checked the milwaukee track in the track holders and they do fit.
@@731Woodworks thanks at least I can get the track up on the wall then. Thanks.
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
Does anyone know if the M18 track saw will fit on the Kreg tracks? I am wondering about the possible options with the Kreg ACS table. Thanks for sharing!
is the festool corded version the same as the cordless other than the obvious differences of course :)
Working on the Jobsite you are happy for a proper sturdy Toollbox. Extra storage is always welcome.
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review. I have mine coming this next week. Question: I am looking for a way to have a button on the Milwaukee track saw that I can press to activate my shop vac. I have a Fenn that has an option to plug in a (corded) power-tool so when the tool is turned on the vac comes on, dwells for 8 seconds after finishing.
Is there a device besides Fastcap RCV Remote ? That option seems troublesome because the manufacturer says don’t use on any vacuum or power-tool that has a 12 amp or greater draw. It is a unit plugged into the wall outlet and then the vacuum is plugged into the RCV.
So. Is there a Bluetooth device that plugs directly into the Fenn onboard receptacle with a remote button attached to the track saw?
Thanks. Hope you can help.
i don't understand the comment about proprietary blade. isn't 6 1/2" very common blade size with almost all new circular saws? is it the fact this is track saw specific? how long will that last? it seems like diablo has a blade for everything.
Good comment. 7 1/4 is the common size for circular saws. 6 1/2 is more geared towards the track saw.
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
What makes the blade proprietary? I couldn't use a 6 1/2 inch diablo etc circular saw blade on this?
This is why I got fed up and went ahead and bought the Makita last year, even though all my battery-powered tools are Milwaukee.
@731woodworks, Does the Milwuakee track saw fit on the PowerTec track?
I just bought this track saw, but I noticed a problem that it doesn’t stop at 45 degrees bevel exactly. It stops at about 44 degrees. Is that normal?
@731 Woodworks have you notice any issues using the TSO attachments with the Milwaukee Track?? I was looking into the rail square but wondering if there not compatible?
It is not compatible. Got an email from them shortly after filming this video stating that it is not compatible. Below is their statement:
"At first look, the Milwaukee guide rail appears to be patterned after the Festool and Makita profiles.
However, closer examination shows that multiple critical dimensions are different enough on the Milwaukee guide rail to interfere with the performance expected from TSO accessories.
As a result, our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide System are currently not compatible with the Milwaukee guide rail.
Stay tuned for more."
great video, do you think milwaukee will ever make a corded version of this?
Man, this is a great review. You're a natural!
I appreciate that!
Spencer Lewis at Insider Carpentry noticed that the Milwaukee saw on the Festool track lines up with the splinter guard differently at 90 degrees vs 45 degrees. Is that also the case with the Milwaukee track (i.e. does the blade line up with the splinter guard regardless of the angle if you use the Milwaukee track)?
it lines up the same on the milwaukee track. Have a REEL on my Instagram that shows it
I saw the TSO 90degree guide attached to the milwaukee track, do you know if the Benchdog guide is also compatible due to the thickness of the center being slightly bigger than festool's?
Need to get a Milwaukee dust extractor? And does it fit the Makita track better with the anti-tip?
Thanks for the review. I’m curious as to how the Dewalt 60v compares. I’m not in either of those platforms..
Great video, Matt. I was wondering how you square up your track to get a square cut? Thanks!
Measure on both ends and match the track
Or even better, use a track Square such as the TSO product or Woodpeckers
I'm an electrician and almost everything I own is Milwaukee but are their products good for fine woodwork?
FYI, both Ryobi and Milwaukee are owned by Techtronic Industries, based in Hong Kong. Milwaukee was an American company that got bought by Techtronic, and I think a lot of their research and development is still based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In 2022, Milwaukee also opened a new engineering office in downtown Chicago.
Have you ever tried the Makita track saw? I don't have a track saw. If I end up buying one, I'll either get the Milwaukee or a Makita since I have batteries and chargers for both platforms. I think the Makita saw doesn't have a riving knife, but some other reviews suggest that it cuts very clean. I have a shop vacuum that uses Makita's bluetooth system to turn on a shop vac via blootooth when you start up a compatible Makita tool, which is nice.
I think riving knives are absolutely necessary on table saws, but I'm not sure if I think they're absolutely necessary on track saws.
Just as an aside, the Ryobi name is licensed from a Japanese industrial tool company that doesn’t make power tools, the actual Ryobi company has nothing to do with the Gatorade green tools
So it’s a HK company licensing a Japanese brand name to sell tools exclusively at Home Depot in the USA
Globalization in a nutshell
New to all of this - What does a track saw do (or make easier) than a table saw? Is it just portability?
I made a video on that topic here th-cam.com/video/UAIr27EOoCc/w-d-xo.html
Everything I was hoping to learn, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
What is the blade offset at the anti splinter strip? Same or something else. Festool and Makita are different.
Hello! Thanks for the great videos! Do you know if the Milwaukee is compatible with the track for the Wen track saw? The tracks are MUCH cheaper and I have plenty of batteries and chargers for Milwaukee so hoping to save a few dollars...
Yes, they should work on the WEN tracks. Milwaukee, Festool, WEN, Powertech, and Makita all share the same track design.
@@731Woodworks thanks brother!
Finally got around to picking this up. Upgrading from the corded DeWalt. Been rocking that saw since brushed / NiCad was the only cordless option.
It would be cool if you could get the red track in the states. Then again, it might get hard on the eyes.
Question, is your riving knife a sheet-of-paper thickness away from the blade?
Mine is lined up with the blade.
I mean behind the tooth. Seems awfully close to me.
Ryobi and Milwaukee are all part of the same TTI company. I'm not surprised that they released the Ryobi first.
Does CMT make a compatible blade?
The 106" rail is too short for 4x8' plywood. Move up to the next length to be able to keep the saw foot on the track from start to finish.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but Ryobi is made by Milwaukee or they are both owned by the same parent company, one of the two.
We don't get Festool here in Barbados...but we do get Miwaulkee tools (eventually 😁)
what do i do if im on both makita and milwaukee platform? festool because it has two more features that are better, i also have a dust extractor from festool, non bluetooth though.
This was a GREAT review. Unfortunately, in terms of cordless tools, I'm already vested in DeWalt, or I would've gone with Milwaukee. That's one of the many reasons the batteries are so expensive. But, I digress... So, I've got a 60v circular saw, and didn't like DeWalts either. So, in my search for track's I came across a site called TrueTrac. It's one of the best companies I've ever dealt with, on every level. I wound up purchasing several of their products (i.e. table track setup track channels), because of the phenomenal quality and customer service. Not trying to steal any of Milwaukee's thunder, or hijack this review, but until my own search, I had no idea TrueTrac even existed. I needed something of incredible quality that was universal. If this doesn't suit you, and you're already vested in your saws, then check them out. 👍
bro milwaulkee is trash for the price. dewalts track saw is stupid powerful. i like truetrac btw but i personally think that powertec ones are pretty good for the price.
Is True Trac the old EZ track system? looks like it because you use your own saw and some of the components look familiar
@@dougupah8778 That's a good question, Doug. I honestly don't know. Honestly I bought it out of desperation, and was a bit cynical because it's expensive. When it arrived I was astonished at the quality of this stuff. I ran into some issues mounting the adapter plate to my saw (which has a unique setup), and I sent the saw to them, and they mounted it for me, and sent it back with extra parts for the future. Just a great (yet, small) company, with really good products, if you're in the same boat as me.
@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 Interesting... That's one of the few negative comments I've heard about Milwaukee. Mind you, I'm referring to their lithium product line. They're ALL expensive, brother. I got burnt by two bad DeWalt batteries. They replaced one, to their credit. But, it left a bad taste in my mouth. That said, the DeWalt tools themselves have held up very well, I have to say. Although, I am having issues with my oscillating tool getting really hot at the handle. Anyway....it's a moot point now, I'm so deep into DeWalt tools, that I'll be buried with them. I can't remember why I didn't buy the DeWalt track saw....I think it was because I'm using a heavy duty 60v circular saw, not the "plunge" style (if I recall). That said, it all worked out in the end with the TrueTrac I wound up getting. Just wanted to share that info, for anyone who was in the same boat. 👍
@@phillamoore157 If it is I had bought one approximately 20 years ago under the name of EZ(and when I google EZ system it takes me to the True Trac site), knew the creator/inventor of it, worked good, had some really good features and was considerably less money then the current track saw models.
Powertec tells me they are coming out with track compatible with Milwaukee track saw in March
I got another brand of track saw recently. Some thin jobs were easy enough to set up and cut and then I decided to take a cut to straighten up and old door on the hinge side, it was bowed out of shape over the years.
I realized why this type of saw would have been better with the blade on the left so that on wide jobs a right handed person can walk past the left edge of the job as they go. I had to use the saw left handed to do the job. And so I began to wonder why so many "Skil" like saws have the blade on the right for the same problematic reason. Anyway thats my 2 cents worth.
Why did not build to track to cut 60 inches. Most cabinet work sheets come in 5x5ft or 5x10 ft. Maybe its in canada.
So you'd have to buy the extra track is what I would assume.