The script to this video is part of... - The Philosophy Vibe "Plato & Aristotle" eBook, available on Amazon: mybook.to/philosophyvibe6 - The Philosophy Vibe Paperback Anthology Vol 2 'Metaphysics' available worldwide on Amazon: mybook.to/philosophyvibevol2
Great series. I think one of the main issues with the cave that you missed mentioning though, is that the prisoner is *dragged* up the staircase and into the light (the challenge of learning can be painful). Great work. -cheers
yup! and dont forget to mention that the prisoner that break loose first saw the fire behind him, and the light causes pain to his eyes because he had never seen a light since he has been living in the shadow. he then went back and sit to watch the shadows (his comfort zone) again.
This reminds me of Zaheer on the show Avatar: the legend of korra, he said "When you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself from the possibility of a new reality." Thanks for this video awesome will share with friends.
That's a very good Allegory. What is often overlooked is the fact that it doesn't address the way in which someone enlightened can overcome the mindsets of those who can be compared to the inhabitants of the cave. It highlights the eternal problem that philosophers have in trying to reach out to people, often with ineffective strategies to overcome the "living in a cave" mindset. It also runs counter to the questionable truths that religious missionaries tried to inflict on unbelievers, especially people inhabiting newly discovered lands.
There's a few holes in this allegory of course. The biggest one being that if the prisoners were chained for life their limbs would've atrophied to the point of uselessness. So the freed prisoner's gonna have a hell of a time getting about once he's been dragged out of the cave. Then there's the matter of the prisoners' basic needs like eating and - well you know what happens a few hours after you eat or drink. These needs would require attendants that the prisoners would naturally be curious about. "Who are these beings?" "Are they not the same as us?" "Where do they go when we can't see them?" ect. Makes me wonder if Plato got annoyed by the few ppl smart enough to find these holes persistently asking questions. 😅
I love this series. It’s great to see philosophy presented for visual learners. I do have one question. Are both characters voiced by the same person? Just curious.
@@PhilosophyVibe Hello, I was hope if you're able to help me with something. I am not sure if this is too much to ask but is it possible that you could explain the Paradigms Lost by Barash D.P I read his article twice. I am not able to understand it may because I have dyslexia I don't know. This article is for English class.
Stop watching mainstream media mate. Anything that mainstream tries to tell you is wrong.... you should explore and make up your own mind. Identify where mainstream tries to direct public opinion and especially when they outright dismiss things. We are in the last days of freedom right now. Within years there won’t be any resources available to explore alternative thinking.
Learn the basics of Critical Thinking and how to scrutinize information. Don't just believe whatever people tell you. Always ask "where did you get that information?". "Oh, I just know" or "It's common sense" are not acceptable responses.
great video, its so fun learning this way please come up with videos of more political thinkers like Machiavelli, hobbes, john locke, rousseau, JS Mill, etc.
Thank you glad you liked the video. We have in fact covered Hobbes, Locke and Mill's Utilitarianism so check out the channel. We have a video on Machiavelli and Rousseau planned :)
Plato's Allegory of the Cave: A Khanversation about how it is relevant to us today @ In this Khanversation Dr. Muqtedar Khan summarizes Plato's Allegory of the cave and discusses how it is more than an invitation to philosophy. He shows how it speaks to our reality today which is marred by social media, ideological narratives, corporate media and governments.
I feel like I left the cave but the outside world rejected me so I choose to go back into the cave and watch the shadows on the wall with the people I'm familiar with
Could it be, that the physical world, as the cave wall in the allegory, is also responding to and are changing depending on what shadows or maybe what other information which are are being cast on it, and that some of these impressions will last longer than others, like for instance when an intelligent design of DNA code may spread and be prolonged much more than other impressions?
I was born again after being faced with death for several months. I was born again, but I realized there's no point of God. I could have died and you lot would have just said "it was just God's will", and now that I'm still alive, you'd say 'God spared him" - ridiculous if you ask me.
Do the slaves then transition into the puppet masters at some point? Instead of the prisoners resenting the puppet masters, they respect them and aspire to be them. Idk
Hello. A video on David Hume is definitely on the list, but we cannot say exactly how soon. We should be getting back to regular uploads within the next 3 months. Out of curiosity what part of Hume's work would you like to see covered?
Why is a man chained because he follows religion? Maybe he believes that he is enlightened and you are not. Who are you to say what a man's reality is supposed to be? This is exactly what Plato was trying to say, the greater reality is out their for the man to discover. When he discovers it, he will know the greater reality. The greater reality is different for each man, and that wisdom comes to a select few who are open to learning. I am a Christian myself and I believe that the greater reality is that Heaven is my home and I am not home yet, Earth is just a temporary place for me to live until my father brings me home. You said that knowledge starts with doubt, but it does not. Knowledge and wisdom are different things. You say knowledge, but what Plato is referring to is wisdom. True wisdom, at least according to me, comes from Yahwey alone. To obtain this wisdom you grow in relationship with him and eagerly seek and ask for his wisdom. I don't care what you do, this is a free country, but I felt like this needed to be said.
I equate the man being freed from his chains to when Jesus Christ freed me of my sin and chains. I have walk out of my cave and I want to serve him the rest of my days. Amen.
The greater reality is a reality most people can't comprehend. The spirit realm. That is why we are not supposed to see into that realm. It is not meant for humans to see it.
buddha is the one who leave the cave firstly, just read more at the survey of paramathatham sujin borihanwanaket, and you will know what is shadow and what is the real truth.
The Matrix isn’t just an exciting sci-fi/fantasy action/adventure movie. The Matrix is a very serious philosophical discussion of the nature of reality. The Matrix is very much in the tradition of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. The question "what is real" can now be answered scientifically in terms of modern physics. The answer of course is nothing is real. See the Science and Nonduality website: scienceandnonduality.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/all-movies-are-a-footnote-to-the-matrix/ or read the PDF document: scienceandnonduality.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/all-movies-are-a-footnote-to-the-matrix-2.pdf
The body has no life of itself. Thought has no life of itself. By themselves, they are inert. They are activated by life. Life is the only Being. What is life? What is consciousness? When activated by life, thought creates the idea "I", a simulacrum of Being. Because thought is limited, the simulacrum, the representation, is limited, insufficient. Consciousness, which is life, cannot be measured - it is infinite, unknowable. Because life is infinite, the simulacrum, by reflection, wants to be complete too. So, it goes after power, position, fortune, and all the rest of it, never reaching completeness. In this ambition, it creates division, competition, wars and destruction. In this movement of becoming, the simulacrum has continuity, with all its miseries. Do I depend on thought to be alive and conscious? Who or what am I? Can I measure who or what I am? With which instrument? Am I not the unknowable, the infinite, the timeless?
@@diegolam6118 Well are you free if you suicide or just dead? Lol. If you live outside of society you deal with the challenges of nature and are limited in that way. There are no true absolutes I think... there is no 'absolute' freedom... only levels...
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The script to this video is part of...
- The Philosophy Vibe "Plato & Aristotle" eBook, available on Amazon:
mybook.to/philosophyvibe6
- The Philosophy Vibe Paperback Anthology Vol 2 'Metaphysics' available worldwide on Amazon:
mybook.to/philosophyvibevol2
Great series. I think one of the main issues with the cave that you missed mentioning though, is that the prisoner is *dragged* up the staircase and into the light (the challenge of learning can be painful). Great work.
-cheers
yup! and dont forget to mention that the prisoner that break loose first saw the fire behind him, and the light causes pain to his eyes because he had never seen a light since he has been living in the shadow. he then went back and sit to watch the shadows (his comfort zone) again.
This reminds me of Zaheer on the show Avatar: the legend of korra, he said "When you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself from the possibility of a new reality." Thanks for this video awesome will share with friends.
Bro that is so spot on
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Profound
I really appreciate your videos. You make philosophy easy to understand and by doing these videos you are doing a HUGE service for society. Thank you.
A great comment to read, thank you so much. Really happy these videos are helping 😊
Hey Vanessa! Any new manor reality changes?
"Take the red pill and see how deep the rabbit hole goes."
Thank you so much for this. I learned a lot and I can now answer my modules.
A pleasure, thank you for watching, best of luck in the module.
That's a very good Allegory. What is often overlooked is the fact that it doesn't address the way in which someone enlightened can overcome the mindsets of those who can be compared to the inhabitants of the cave. It highlights the eternal problem that philosophers have in trying to reach out to people, often with ineffective strategies to overcome the "living in a cave" mindset. It also runs counter to the questionable truths that religious missionaries tried to inflict on unbelievers, especially people inhabiting newly discovered lands.
Its funny how well The Cave works as a intro to Epistemology when Plato meant it as a treatise on metaphysical ontology.
Best animation and concise explanation on the cave that I've seen. Great job.
Thank you very much!
There's a few holes in this allegory of course. The biggest one being that if the prisoners were chained for life their limbs would've atrophied to the point of uselessness. So the freed prisoner's gonna have a hell of a time getting about once he's been dragged out of the cave. Then there's the matter of the prisoners' basic needs like eating and - well you know what happens a few hours after you eat or drink. These needs would require attendants that the prisoners would naturally be curious about. "Who are these beings?" "Are they not the same as us?" "Where do they go when we can't see them?" ect.
Makes me wonder if Plato got annoyed by the few ppl smart enough to find these holes persistently asking questions. 😅
Our new podcast The Sage's Way discusses the Allegory of the Cave in our first episode. Check us out..🙏🏼👊🏼🌌
This is literally Best explanation of this subject online, Keep it up👍
Thank you! Glad you found it useful.
I love this series. It’s great to see philosophy presented for visual learners. I do have one question. Are both characters voiced by the same person? Just curious.
Thank you so much for explain these to me.I understand it more better with pictures rather then reading the book. Thank you
You're welcome, glad it was helpful :)
@@PhilosophyVibe Hello, I was hope if you're able to help me with something. I am not sure if this is too much to ask but is it possible that you could explain the Paradigms Lost by Barash D.P I read his article twice. I am not able to understand it may because I have dyslexia I don't know. This article is for English class.
Love the message behind Plato's Allegory Cave story. "FOOD FOR THOUGHT" & "WORDS OF WISDOM".
The question is... How do I get out of the cave?? How do you break the shackles??
Stop watching mainstream media mate. Anything that mainstream tries to tell you is wrong.... you should explore and make up your own mind. Identify where mainstream tries to direct public opinion and especially when they outright dismiss things.
We are in the last days of freedom right now. Within years there won’t be any resources available to explore alternative thinking.
Learn the basics of Critical Thinking and how to scrutinize information. Don't just believe whatever people tell you. Always ask "where did you get that information?". "Oh, I just know" or "It's common sense" are not acceptable responses.
your channel is awesome
keep it up!!
2021 in a nut shell!
great video, its so fun learning this way please come up with videos of more political thinkers like Machiavelli, hobbes, john locke, rousseau, JS Mill, etc.
Thank you glad you liked the video.
We have in fact covered Hobbes, Locke and Mill's Utilitarianism so check out the channel. We have a video on Machiavelli and Rousseau planned :)
@@PhilosophyVibe So cool you're still responding to people 4+ years later
Plato's Allegory of the Cave: A Khanversation about how it is relevant to us today
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In this Khanversation Dr. Muqtedar Khan summarizes Plato's Allegory of the cave and discusses how it is more than an invitation to philosophy. He shows how it speaks to our reality today which is marred by social media, ideological narratives, corporate media and governments.
How can they kill the freed man? They are chained.🤔🤔😁
Even cave-dwelling troglodytes can kick-box.
words can
Chained is metaphorical. Remember, one captive freed himself (the philosopher) from the "chains". "I sees the light, I be free" he said. LOL!
I had to watch this for a school assignment
same, but it was still nice
Cave is a symbol of our body 👁️👁️👁️ and the soul is stuck inside the body 👁️ that's why we can't control on our mind because of restrictions of chain
this has really opened my eyes thank you
You're welcome thanks for watching.
you guys really make me question knowledge as i know it. Thank you
Our pleasure :D
Great job! Your videos gets more and more interesting as I browse your channel. 👌
Thank you, hope you enjoy the rest of the content.
Keep em coming!
🥰 Great series
Plato tripped acid my doods
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Excellent!!
Does anyone know a period in time of a passage that is similar to The Allegory of the cave?
How about the transition to scince
I feel like I left the cave but the outside world rejected me so I choose to go back into the cave and watch the shadows on the wall with the people I'm familiar with
Me too man Ive been going through a spiritually awakening for 3 months now
This is my new favorite channel 🥰
Thank you!
Could it be, that the physical world, as the cave wall in the allegory, is also responding to and are changing depending on what shadows or maybe what other information which are are being cast on it, and that some of these impressions will last longer than others, like for instance when an intelligent design of DNA code may spread and be prolonged much more than other impressions?
Great video helps me understand the text
Thank you, so glad this helped.
Awesome work ....
Thank you.
Hallucinogens=Leaving The Cave
drop sum fungi to free the mind
What an organized video 💜
Thank you!! 😊
I just realized that the movie THX 1138 is sort of based off of this.
Oh to surf on the wave of a dream.
2:15 is me in the morning when I first wake up lol
Please make more videos
I think the honors they give each other Is a way of enforcing perpetual ignorance.
In Christianity is called born again
I was born again after being faced with death for several months. I was born again, but I realized there's no point of God. I could have died and you lot would have just said "it was just God's will", and now that I'm still alive, you'd say 'God spared him" - ridiculous if you ask me.
plato allegory of the cave **Take off the mask!’ Thousands gather in London for ‘Unite for Freedom’ rally, demanding ‘back to normal now’ (VIDEOS)
In this example are the ralliers or government the enlightened ones?
love your vids
Do you have any disagreement about the story?
nice vid help me with my kids
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Orson Welles version: th-cam.com/video/QFi8JUIwu2s/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo
I love your video so much
Thank you, glad you enjoyed :)
Do the slaves then transition into the puppet masters at some point? Instead of the prisoners resenting the puppet masters, they respect them and aspire to be them. Idk
great video! :)
Do you think you guys will make a video on Hume any time soon? That would be lovely! :)
Hello. A video on David Hume is definitely on the list, but we cannot say exactly how soon. We should be getting back to regular uploads within the next 3 months. Out of curiosity what part of Hume's work would you like to see covered?
No worries. There's no rush! I'd love to see you all cover the problem of induction. Thank you :)!
Reminds me of those who are chained to religion. Knowledge starts with Doubt, not received pseudo-knowledge.
Why is a man chained because he follows religion? Maybe he believes that he is enlightened and you are not. Who are you to say what a man's reality is supposed to be? This is exactly what Plato was trying to say, the greater reality is out their for the man to discover. When he discovers it, he will know the greater reality. The greater reality is different for each man, and that wisdom comes to a select few who are open to learning. I am a Christian myself and I believe that the greater reality is that Heaven is my home and I am not home yet, Earth is just a temporary place for me to live until my father brings me home. You said that knowledge starts with doubt, but it does not. Knowledge and wisdom are different things. You say knowledge, but what Plato is referring to is wisdom. True wisdom, at least according to me, comes from Yahwey alone. To obtain this wisdom you grow in relationship with him and eagerly seek and ask for his wisdom. I don't care what you do, this is a free country, but I felt like this needed to be said.
Thank you☺️☺️☺️
Welcome 😊
Hooray for reason!
I equate the man being freed from his chains to when Jesus Christ freed me of my sin and chains. I have walk out of my cave and I want to serve him the rest of my days. Amen.
May i ask who created this script?? I would like to make similar animation version also.
idk if u still wanna know,, but their name is charles georgiou (if u wanna find them then i guess u can google them or smthn?)
The greater reality is a reality most people can't comprehend. The spirit realm. That is why we are not supposed to see into that realm. It is not meant for humans to see it.
buddha is the one who leave the cave firstly, just read more at the survey of paramathatham sujin borihanwanaket, and you will know what is shadow and what is the real truth.
So basically we live in the matrix
It's a bit like when you stop watching the BBC news ect.
The Matrix isn’t just an exciting sci-fi/fantasy action/adventure movie. The Matrix is a very serious philosophical discussion of the nature of reality. The Matrix is very much in the tradition of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. The question "what is real" can now be answered scientifically in terms of modern physics. The answer of course is nothing is real. See the Science and Nonduality website:
scienceandnonduality.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/all-movies-are-a-footnote-to-the-matrix/
or read the PDF document:
scienceandnonduality.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/all-movies-are-a-footnote-to-the-matrix-2.pdf
The body has no life of itself. Thought has no life of itself. By themselves, they are inert. They are activated by life. Life is the only Being. What is life? What is consciousness? When activated by life, thought creates the idea "I", a simulacrum of Being.
Because thought is limited, the simulacrum, the representation, is limited, insufficient. Consciousness, which is life, cannot be measured - it is infinite, unknowable. Because life is infinite, the simulacrum, by reflection, wants to be complete too. So, it goes after power, position, fortune, and all the rest of it, never reaching completeness. In this ambition, it creates division, competition, wars and destruction. In this movement of becoming, the simulacrum has continuity, with all its miseries.
Do I depend on thought to be alive and conscious? Who or what am I? Can I measure who or what I am? With which instrument?
Am I not the unknowable, the infinite, the timeless?
this could really applied to those tiktokers who won't understand shts
you don't have to darken the video thus
So I asked you What is truth
So I ask you now what is evil
great
Thanks.
The film "The Matrix" is based on this story and of the story of Jesus.
And Jean Baudrillard
To power
Eleusinian Mysteries
one
Love your channnel could a topic for an upcoming video be religious experience
It is happening.
The cave is the trenches
Dang near knock off attempt of the Ted talk version
Why are you saying greater reality..you don't understand if your saying greater..
The gospel.
Jesus Christ is enlightenment.
COVID in a nutshell
how are they prisoners from birth what did they even do lmao
It’s hypothetical, obviously
We are all prisoners in the sense that we give up certain freedoms to be part of society.
@@lukevanni2987 so in some way that if you suicide or live alone its way of breaking free from all the stress and miserable from living.
@@diegolam6118 Well are you free if you suicide or just dead? Lol. If you live outside of society you deal with the challenges of nature and are limited in that way. There are no true absolutes I think... there is no 'absolute' freedom... only levels...
@@lukevanni2987 I would be down for suiciding I don't rly see the meaning of life its kinda boring just work get old and die and say byebye
Nobody cares
He went back to the cave because he was lonely