Why Jetfire Wasn't Revived In ROTF

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  • @Theorymus
    @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

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    • @BrownBombshell2000
      @BrownBombshell2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Next is please what if Shockwave survive the events of Transformers Dark of the Moon

    • @robloxerclaw807
      @robloxerclaw807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BrownBombshell2000 yes pls

    • @arcticwarriors7014
      @arcticwarriors7014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you do a what if blackout bonecrusher brawl and jet fire survived please I would love that 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @voltxxshot2619
      @voltxxshot2619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi

    • @SiahHimself
      @SiahHimself 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi

  • @LightningZetton
    @LightningZetton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    Jetfire isn't wasted. He gave his life to save humanity and the sun. At least he wasn't wasted like most g1 series characters who got less screentime than jolt in the 86 movie lmao

    • @risan7108
      @risan7108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Jolt was in the 86 movie?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I dont think so

    • @Achieme
      @Achieme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@risan7108 no he never was, although he is a minicon in Transformers armada.

    • @risan7108
      @risan7108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Achieme ok

    • @LightningZetton
      @LightningZetton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@risan7108 said the g1 characters who had less screentime than ROTF jolt (which was a minute) most g1 series characters that were in the 86 movie only appear for seconds and die or just never used again

  • @TheOnlyKlubbnoob
    @TheOnlyKlubbnoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    Finally someone who cares about jet fire.

  • @razorshark6790
    @razorshark6790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    As Jetfire would say "I'm too old for this crap"

  • @CameraAgent
    @CameraAgent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Jetfire in G1:
    "Time to turn science into War"
    Jetfire In the bayverse:
    "BEHOLD THE GLORY OF JETFIRE!"

  • @rockzilla1664
    @rockzilla1664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    I am actually Sad that They didn’t revive him he was actually a good character

    • @pikachu3220
      @pikachu3220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      true

    • @cvtamg11
      @cvtamg11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah true he would have made a great character especially in the last knight because of his knowledge 🤔

    • @shinwave
      @shinwave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But you know maybe it's the perfect time to put him to rest because he even saids "I'm too old for this crap"

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@shinwave surely reviving him would rejuvenate his body?

    • @MrCouchmen
      @MrCouchmen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moonwhooper Can you iimagine him as Tu-160?

  • @MrFedoraFilm
    @MrFedoraFilm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Despite his death, his glory still remains eternal.

    • @cyberwarrior5939
      @cyberwarrior5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well I mean it is eternal glory jetfire himself said so

  • @lazarussolomon3541
    @lazarussolomon3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Kinda hard to respect someone while they're being used for armor

    • @brandan5708
      @brandan5708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I mean, look at jake (armor suit)

    • @pikachu3220
      @pikachu3220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      true

  • @etam8099
    @etam8099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    Jetfire lived all his life like a Decepticon but died like an Autobot...Sentinel lived all his life like an Autobot but died like a Decepticon...
    Now that's what i call symbolism

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Wise words

    • @deaththekid7626
      @deaththekid7626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      👑 You drop this Alex Prime

    • @acethebeast9971
      @acethebeast9971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True

    • @TheZamaron
      @TheZamaron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sentinel in just the movie suffers a little, he just seems like a lying back stabber. But when we add in the IDW movie comics, he's pretty interesting. Sentinel does believe in all the things Optimus does, Sentinel is kind and caring, I do believe if things were different that he'd fight to protect Earth and the Humans, the problem here is that he cares about Cybertron more. He saw the war was tearing Cybertron apart, so he made the deal with Megatron, find the planet where the Star Harvester was hidden and use it to restore CYbertron, that plan changed a little when he fell into stasis for many year and woke to Cybertron in ruins, thus enslaving Humanity to rebuild with Earth's resources seemed the only option.

    • @parkertitle1923
      @parkertitle1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to mention Jetfire died to make Optimus strong enough to kill the fallen and save earth. Meanwhile Sentinel died by Megaton’s hand as a result of his attempt to kill Optimus.

  • @transformersfan3509
    @transformersfan3509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Honestly if he survived he would've gotten killed on DOTM very fast since he was to old to fight Decepticons like Megatron, Sentinel or Shockwave

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah him instead of Quw

    • @themasteroflaughter2458
      @themasteroflaughter2458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Not necessarily. Remember how Jetfire was able to take on Mixmaster without a problem. Besides, if you may recall, research also says that while Jetfire is old, he is still very powerful.

    • @transformersfan3509
      @transformersfan3509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@themasteroflaughter2458 Yeah but if you saw him in the 2nd film were he gets reawaken and couldn't walk right and Sentinel could kill him easily.

    • @themasteroflaughter2458
      @themasteroflaughter2458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@transformersfan3509 That was because Jetfire was getting readjusted to life after having been in status lock for so long. After that, depending on how long it would take, I bet that Jetfire would be more concentrated. Besides, if Jetfire were to be restored and revived with a spare fragment of the AllSpark somewhere in the end of the 2nd film, Jetfire would be able to have plenty of time to readjust to walking right because of the amount of years that pass between the events of the 2nd film and the 3rd film and since Sentinel Prime did not get revived yet until the 3rd film. Common knowledge, really.

    • @yomommaman4072
      @yomommaman4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@themasteroflaughter2458 plus the upgrades the wreckers could have gave him is crazy and jetfire is so strong

  • @darkusblader
    @darkusblader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I like to believe that optimus's jet pack was based off of jetfire. It comes seemingly out of nowhere and would be one way of honoring him in dotm.

    • @axelgrease69
      @axelgrease69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well it is

    • @darkusblader
      @darkusblader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axelgrease69 what is your source?

    • @alejandromomota6934
      @alejandromomota6934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@darkusblader they literally say a throwaway line about it and the jetpack is obviously inspired by the afterburners

    • @darkusblader
      @darkusblader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandromomota6934 were? I have watched dotm like 10 times and they never once mention anything about its development in the movie or any interviews.

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Darkus Blader just look at its design

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I mean he sacrificed his spark including all his parts, he was probably beyond repair, and I'm pretty sure the Matrix can't fix or physically rebuild them like you said.
    And let's be honest Michael Bay probably didn't want a boomer in future Transformers movie.

    • @Carpediem357
      @Carpediem357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The all spark would’ve been the only way to resurrect him I assume

    • @Achieme
      @Achieme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Carpediem357 yup, if it was the allspark he probably would have been revived

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The matrix is for the primes only that is can by while the allspark could have been the most indestructible object in the universe that could logically resurrect any con and bot as long they are connected to it and make them more stronger than before and give super powers which makes me hate the bayverse for *blowing up* such a cool concept

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Achieme yes

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Carpediem357 yes

  • @ballisticblocker9163
    @ballisticblocker9163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    My only problem is that his spark remained undamaged while Optimus basically had his blown to bits.
    Most continuities basically say that the spark holds the soul which probably means their personality as well. Since the movies never contradict this then we can assume that this is a similar case (after all, lockdown seems to collect them meaning they must have some more value than just being a heart).
    In theory, they could’ve revived Jetfire by building a new body, putting his spark in it and uniting it with the matrix. They even had reason to do it as he’s clearly a very good fighter, killing two deceptions within a minute. He can also open space bridges, something that would have been invaluable during DOTM for infiltrating Chicago.

    • @muneebhussain6729
      @muneebhussain6729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wait, does this mean there is a chance even Ratchet could be given another body and another life if it were to happen?

    • @alexanderpalmarin7840
      @alexanderpalmarin7840 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muneebhussain6729 all of them if they can find where lockdown kept the sparks of those he killed

    • @quantum.codex42
      @quantum.codex42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My guess is that if you got Jetfire’s spark and the allspark/allspark shard, you could use the two to give jet fire a new body

  • @snowcube_steel
    @snowcube_steel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This guys is one of those people who actually cares about other charecters like jet fire

  • @Sp00kyBones
    @Sp00kyBones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Some people say Jetfire wasn't wasted.
    That's partly wrong, Jetfire could have been done more in the movie, aswell as it's sequels. Yes, if it weren't for him, the Autobots would have lost, aswell as Earth's sun being Destroyed. But still, simply throwing a character in a series to sacrifice themselves in the same episode/movie, is a waste of potential. Yes, Jetfire couldn't be much help to the Autobots if he were to survive, but no matter how small, he still could have done more none the less.

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    LET'S GO!!

  • @DragoonMS
    @DragoonMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Another thing: if I had to guess, the way the evidence is presented gives away the real answer (aside from "it's physically impossible")...and that would be that the Matrix *_ONLY_* works on Primes. Optimus, Sentinel, etc.

  • @kathryncampbell9564
    @kathryncampbell9564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Jetfire's always been an honorable character. The movie is no different.

  • @zerrierslizer1
    @zerrierslizer1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    what Jetfire did was a moral decision he himself chose. "if i could do naught in life, then i will in death do whatever is required of my body to do. if to nurture the earth or to rot away in the neverending flow of time, it is only time itself that can say for certain."

  • @gamersinacontainer
    @gamersinacontainer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Asking the questions nobody ever thought of, and closing all loose ends and plot holes. Amazing work!
    Never realized the All-Spark was for full-body repair while the Matrix can only repower a Spark....

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Happy to help man

  • @themasteroflaughter2458
    @themasteroflaughter2458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So, to conclude, the only way Jetfire would be able to be revived if not with the Matrix of Leadership, it would have to be with the AllSpark itself, since the AllSpark can do things that the Matrix of Leadership is limited to doing, such as reassembling a Transformer's parts on their original bodies and restore all their parts that got destroyed or ripped off. And the way I see it, if Optimus Prime chose to revive Jetfire with a spare fragment of the AllSpark, I think it would have to be because he decided that he wanted to return the favor for Jetfire helping him and because Jetfire could be of very great further use among the rest of the Autobots. I bet that one of the things Jetifire would have been able to do in Dark of the Moon if that were to happen is that he would be able to know of Sentinel Prime's secret scheme with Megatron since he is very knowledgeable and know not to trust Sentinel Prime at all.

  • @johnkeith4177
    @johnkeith4177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think the reason why prime didn't revive him aside from the fact that he wasn't a prime is because Jetfire was in too many parts and Optimus was mostly whole aside from his abdominal region so it could feasably just replace the parts. That and Jetfire ripped out his spark for prime to get his parts and prime had his spark.

  • @brenscott5416
    @brenscott5416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I may have mixed feelings on the bayverse but Jetfire is probably one of my favorite characters in all of those movies

  • @justzillathekingofgames6867
    @justzillathekingofgames6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still would've been cool if Jetfire came back in his prime(no pun intended). The Autobots desperately needed more flying Autobots. That Fall of Cybertron line cut me real deep. Still miss that game.

  • @-MrPinapple-
    @-MrPinapple- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man, if he had energon he would live longer. DARN YOU FALLEN

  • @beyondthemax2623
    @beyondthemax2623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I cannot stress enough how much I love this channel. Don’t stop theorizing!

  • @AK-nt4wp
    @AK-nt4wp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi trans I love this its so interesting you probably wont remember me but iv been watching from 15k subs its amazing to see how far you've come I love each and everyone of these I love this channel please keep this amazing content up

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thx man I appreciate you sticking around for so long

    • @AK-nt4wp
      @AK-nt4wp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course this is quality content

  • @cp368productions2
    @cp368productions2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In G1 and all other Transformers series they had to rebuild Autobots many times. Ironhide especially, guy kept getting killed. Everything that is JetFire is that spark, and only the spark. So they could have built a new body. But they wouldn't have had enough Cybertronian metal to do it. They could have done it with Earth Metal but I doubt the Autobots would know how to do that.

  • @rosanirodrigues557
    @rosanirodrigues557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    What if Starscream joined the Autobot’s instead of the Decepticons in the film series?

    • @eugeneman18akathingyguy19
      @eugeneman18akathingyguy19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @deaththekid7626
      @deaththekid7626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ``Optimus Has Fallen, I Starscream is Your Newfound Ruler Autobots! Follow me and Roll Out!!!!``

    • @rosanirodrigues557
      @rosanirodrigues557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deaththekid7626
      Yes! YES! I wanted to know what would’ve happened in Revenge of the Fallen if Starscream was an Autobot?

    • @FunniMillie
      @FunniMillie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosanirodrigues557 Bay would probably use Starscream as an upgrade for Optimus cuz bay probably hates autobots that transform into something that can fly, the exception being Drift from AOE, cuz he is a Triple changer

  • @Nakedmolerat3552
    @Nakedmolerat3552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yessssss finally something anything about jetfire on youtube good job trans thories keep it up

  • @marilugallegos4969
    @marilugallegos4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jetfire is one of greatest characters. I’ve been trying to find the studio series figure to combine with prime

  • @mrpepper8383
    @mrpepper8383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like to think it’s Kami Piccolo scenario where their personalities merged as well, or at least Piccolo and Nail

  • @keikai565
    @keikai565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was sad to see jetfire die in the first movie he appeared in but he went down as a hero

  • @dinobotslug5422
    @dinobotslug5422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jetfire will remain as nostalgic and a great warrior who saved Earth. I am glad there are others who also care for him.

  • @AevisPrime
    @AevisPrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While I do say the SR-71 is a good choice for his AltMode, It still seems a little too recent. Something earlier like a 262 would've worked well, although I know they needed something recognizable. And would it stand to reason that Jolt and Ratchet, as a scientist and a medical officer, would've been able to save Jetfire, had he allowed them to?

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait, I know what your probably going to say but if the allspark can repair and bring stuff to life and repair/rebuild TF, how come they didn't use the cube to repair Bumblebee's legs? I would have forgiven Megatron being revived because the Decepticons used a shard of the allspark and there's no telling how much power it has to repair or bring TF back, but the autobots have the cube to fix his legs or even his voice box.

  • @acethebeast9971
    @acethebeast9971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Five days after this came out and I get a notification now btw KEEP YOUR VIDS UP like I said you're the best youtuber no one can compete with

  • @buuhan994
    @buuhan994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been binge watching your videos lately

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thx man

    • @buuhan994
      @buuhan994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Theorymus no problem loving the content

  • @DerangedIntellectual9
    @DerangedIntellectual9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the dude ripped out his own spark (like a heart for us humans) and his entire body was taken apart and reassembled as combat and flight armor/weaponry. it would've been disgraceful to his sacrifice to try and bring him back as some frankenstein looking hunk of metal. better to let him rest after the fight against the fallen.

  • @KSLVBornana
    @KSLVBornana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Okay. Here me out...what if you made a series opposite of "What if I Survived" called "What if I Died"
    Featuring what would have happened if a Transformer died instead of lived

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is an interesting concept which I would likely do in the future

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow did you forget something that is *impossible* since the bayhell is literally the place for a cybertronian cycle of death
      Nan it's a good idea consider that you can plan on who will kill who and how they will die like for mine devastator will be killed by the autobots sideswipe will be killed shockwave blackout will be killed by warpath instead of a human and starscream will be killed by megatron instead of a HuMaN

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus yes that will give a ton of ideas

  • @joeymcadams9351
    @joeymcadams9351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro im so glad there people like u working Hella hard to make people happy keep up the good work

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to help man

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What kind of life would have just being a bunch of alive parts

  • @LostStarCelestial
    @LostStarCelestial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    woooo you got a sponsor! i don't know if this is the first time you did but it is the first time i saw a video of yours that had a sponsor

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man I appreciate it I took a break from sponsors and then I dipped my toe in them once again

  • @robloxerclaw807
    @robloxerclaw807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have a theory: who was the one that started the war?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      According to optimus it was Megatron

    • @Alter0308
      @Alter0308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It all started when optimus dropped ice cream he was getting for megatron

    • @robloxerclaw807
      @robloxerclaw807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Alter0308 lol

    • @Carpediem357
      @Carpediem357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In the comics it was Megatron influenced by the Fallen

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All mighty bucket head as always

  • @beeeboxer
    @beeeboxer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want everything in transformers to come back, this movie was my childhood ❤️❤️❤️

  • @EmiMation
    @EmiMation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your videos are so interesting and amazing! Thank you for making sense of this sloppy franchise! Keep up the good work!!!!

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thx man I appreciate it 👍

    • @EmiMation
      @EmiMation 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus np ; )

  • @murallattice8543
    @murallattice8543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for stile making these joyful videos

  • @twister107
    @twister107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always thought it would be cruel to bring a soldier back into battle just to die again.

  • @djxzgalaxylang7703
    @djxzgalaxylang7703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks TransTheories for this

  • @DinopuppetandFriendschannel008
    @DinopuppetandFriendschannel008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hey trans pls do how did Optimus prime made to earth safely at the end of the bumblebee movie?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sure thing

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With Jerfire's part's

    • @millround7126
      @millround7126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How did he have Jetfires parts in bumblebee?

    • @Sol_Umbrius
      @Sol_Umbrius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD how would Optimus have jetfires in bumblebee movie? The bumblebee move is way before Transformers 2.

    • @dairiskuznecovs7233
      @dairiskuznecovs7233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD isnt bumblebee movie a sotry reset?
      as in entirely different things happen so optimus would probably never need jetfires parts

  • @Superb23
    @Superb23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly wish Jetfire survived. Anyway, awesome vid keep on Theorizing

  • @edwardanagho4032
    @edwardanagho4032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Poor jetfire I guess he was too old like that one autobot in tlk

  • @Nate_productions
    @Nate_productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video bro keep it up

  • @shockwave727
    @shockwave727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im glad this was explained

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Happy to help

    • @Charahuman213
      @Charahuman213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus it's only logical

  • @Megatron_Clan
    @Megatron_Clan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos ,there so good ,i hope 1 day you score 1mil subscribers.

  • @alexz6462
    @alexz6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another 🔥 video

  • @tinyzenleo4290
    @tinyzenleo4290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yaaaaaay trans the legend is back baby I can’t wait to watch and video idea you show continue the what if Series like do óptimas in rotf

  • @galvinjohnson2934
    @galvinjohnson2934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was wondering if a what if Megatron kept his 2007 through out the movies

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He would be more powerful in my opinion

    • @khizarata7255
      @khizarata7255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah he would be more powerful because in 2007 he was very strong.

    • @kraftik5300
      @kraftik5300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theorymus yes, because he was used to that body when he fought on cybertron. Reason why he was weaker in revenge of the fallen was baceuse his body wasn't balanced and he wasn't used to it. Remeber forest fight when Optimus cut off Grindor's arm. It hits megatron blaster arm and that impact caused him to comletely miss target and fell to knees.

  • @Scourge_Studios
    @Scourge_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was the best video ever!!!! … I don’t won’t to be a pain but when will u make the video I requested what if sentinel prime survived? Anyway nothing can stop u can it Man U have amazed me and I’m sure everyone else watching u will never lose this streak so I now u will do a amazing job on ur next video!!!!!!!!

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx man the what if Sentinel Prime survived is the video I still want to do and I plan on doing I just don't know when I will get to it

    • @Scourge_Studios
      @Scourge_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok cool no problem it is just u r the first TH-camr that has said they will make a video I suggested anyway at least I now when u will do it thank you 🙏

  • @Toon_Lucario
    @Toon_Lucario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally jolt is mentioned

  • @LiterallyEveryone217
    @LiterallyEveryone217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just woke up and the title sent my brain into full confused screaming mode

  • @2creamy4you15
    @2creamy4you15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would’ve been interesting to see jet fire and sentinel interact with each other in dotm

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'd love to see that as well but from a plot standpoint what do you think old man black bird would do in the movie

    • @2creamy4you15
      @2creamy4you15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus do you think that jetfire would be able to convince sentinel to return to the autobots, like optimus tryed to do

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe

    • @cyberwarrior5939
      @cyberwarrior5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2creamy4you15 i think he would have either been carved up or shot by sentinel

    • @brawmankerlexterminateurde860
      @brawmankerlexterminateurde860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Cosmic gun go shpeennnnnnnnn*

  • @dancingflames2563
    @dancingflames2563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool vid!

  • @sonicdude2123
    @sonicdude2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Video was cool but I want to see what happened to Jolt or What If I survived Jolt

    • @dalislonga4444
      @dalislonga4444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too I rlly want to see What if Jolt survived

  • @hydra4678
    @hydra4678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jetfire is honestly my favourite transformer.

  • @BronyLord-wo1ym
    @BronyLord-wo1ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Jason if Jetfire was in DOTM evan though Jetfire is Old, Would Que upgrade him for better Advantages?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Likely possibly into Skyfire

    • @BronyLord-wo1ym
      @BronyLord-wo1ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theorymus I can also see Que making a much better handheld weapon for Jetfire since in ROTF he had a Axe.

  • @dreadhavoc
    @dreadhavoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back at it again with yet another amazing answer to an interesting theory. Love your videos man.0

  • @RomanEmpire25
    @RomanEmpire25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here’s a theorie what happend to the blue race car transformer (I forgot him name lol) in TKL

  • @aurafireheart
    @aurafireheart ปีที่แล้ว

    Man Jetfire was my favourite character in RotF. Partly bc he was a funny sassy senile old bot but I guess for me personally it was because that was the first time I'd seen a truly old Cybertronian. Yes, the Fallen is even older than him but he was a Prime and he wasn't really showing signs of aging like Jetfire. It was a different kind of thing with Jetfire because you get to see what happens to Cybertronians that reach that kind of old age. Although I did originally wonder why they didn't bring him back with the Matrix but it makes sense after this video why they wouldn't have been able to for various reasons. And the possibility that the Matrix may only work on reactivating/reviving Primes. Not to mention that even if it did work, Optimus probably wanted to respect Jetfire's choice to sacrifice himself for a noble cause and bringing him back would've made that sacrifice less noteworthy. Also you can't tell me Jetfire wouldn't be a cranky old man and chastise Prime if he did somehow bring him back.

  • @speedflashanimations221
    @speedflashanimations221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Okay so In your theory about jetfries parts where left in where he died that could mean that KSI could have use jetfire parts to Maybe the boss drone
    Mabey KSI used some of jetfire parts and strascream parts to crest the KSI boss drones and this would be in chareter for KSI scines they see cybertroniems as just machines

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its possible

    • @speedflashanimations221
      @speedflashanimations221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus okay so after the events of dark of the moon humans saw all cybretorniens as threats to them and they are just machines . This theory is backed up with cemetery wind witch killed autobots and decepticons even tho the autobots save the humans many times so whats stopping KSI from using jetfires parts to creat more drones? Nothing even tho that’s disrespecting jetfires scarifies they would go to where jetfire parts where left and took them to KSI to be melted down jet fire and starscreams parts to creat to boss drones and a few other ones examples look at the KSI boss drone it has the jet repulsers behind his arms similar to jetfire and optimus had when he combine with jetfire look at the KSI boss feet they look just like the optimus powers jetfire if you look at KSI boss head it has to spikes in the head just like jetfire had with his beer. The optimus jetfire combiner had an canon in his hand right where the KSI boss had his and they do look really similiar and the hands alos do look similar both in jet fire and KSI boss drone and the reason it looks like this is because that’s how they where able to get jetfires part scines he was really damged and the optimus combined from is the last from of jetfire and mabey some of the spikily parts was brought from jetfires beer

    • @speedflashanimations221
      @speedflashanimations221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theorymus thoughts theory I came up as I watched the video witch i alos took inspiration from your other theory’s about the KSI?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do agree there is a similarity to boss and just fire but only nest and the OtterBox would know where Jetfire was laid to rest, KSI likely got that information when they shut down so it is possible they did dig up the parts and use it for themselves

    • @speedflashanimations221
      @speedflashanimations221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theorymus thanks =D

  • @Superdog3207
    @Superdog3207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey dude It`s been a while and sorry for not supporting your videos because today is a special day.

  • @dark_of_the_moon_1482
    @dark_of_the_moon_1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First

  • @maggiiopgott8975
    @maggiiopgott8975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes new Trans-Theory Video😍

  • @jellyslogocrainerd9089
    @jellyslogocrainerd9089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man tht intro never gets old 💜
    Why wuld they kill rachet tho, he’s like a main character in the movie

  • @benazirislam409
    @benazirislam409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry I was late by 4 hrs.... tuition was going on mate 😅.....but amazing video 🔥🔥🔥🔥❣️

  • @telles0824
    @telles0824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About to watch the video rn but what’s funny is I’m currently watching ROTF 😂
    Edit: another amazing video Trans and as always can never look at little things the same anymore 😂 and especially because I’m watching ROTF rn 😂
    Can’t wait till ur next video Trans keep up the good work 😎

  • @sliverlunior9841
    @sliverlunior9841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still on the question On why Brawl called himself "Devastator

  • @MySkinnydip
    @MySkinnydip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jolt was so awesome! Hope we get to see more in future TF shows or movies!

  • @bubbagrissett3579
    @bubbagrissett3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been a while Trans but I'm here🤝🏽😂

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another amazing video

  • @MrSpace-b4d
    @MrSpace-b4d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that intro never gets old

  • @brandan5708
    @brandan5708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyyy you got a sponsor!!!💪💪💪💯💯💯

  • @ZackWP1309
    @ZackWP1309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another awesome video trans and also could you do what if jolt survived?

  • @superion1082
    @superion1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love love this channel so much

  • @swagguy6315
    @swagguy6315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trans Theories is a masterpiece 👍

  • @blackice3435
    @blackice3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another amazing video🔥🔥

  • @rajeshvrajan9058
    @rajeshvrajan9058 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always !!!

  • @endreus2251
    @endreus2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an opinion unlike any other..
    I like Age of extinction, and The Last Knight when Trans makes enough videos to explain all the misconceptions..

  • @jaidenplayzzzx
    @jaidenplayzzzx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sounds like true science. evan tho its still sad of jetfire's death.

  • @michaelmahabir213
    @michaelmahabir213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jetfire died as a true hero and Autobot. I would've loved to see Jetfire fight Sentinel Prime.

  • @LiterallyEveryone217
    @LiterallyEveryone217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jetfire in most comics and tv shows: Badass, cool, giant autobot
    Jetfire in bay movies: Grumpy Robot

    • @kinnoedar2990
      @kinnoedar2990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grandpa Autobot

    • @LiterallyEveryone217
      @LiterallyEveryone217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kinnoedar2990 He's like the Transformers version of a Vietnam war veteran or something

  • @nicholasthomas.7553
    @nicholasthomas.7553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the intros

  • @felhardo1
    @felhardo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a new 🙌😌👏✨🙏☺ video 📹🙌!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @breaker_0835
    @breaker_0835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always get excited when I see you posting videos also first

  • @sonicdude2123
    @sonicdude2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a question for you where was Cliffjumper and Ultra Magnus during all the bayformers movies?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's possible but we never know

  • @bitesized.5053
    @bitesized.5053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Behold! The Eternal Glory of Optimus's Discarded Upgrades

  • @mralt7798
    @mralt7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another sponsor congrats man,in the future you think it’s possible to do a vid on drifts past?

  • @finp1116
    @finp1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay new vid!

  • @brotheradrian9368
    @brotheradrian9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will miss you old friend R.I.P Jetfire

  • @eliteballer23
    @eliteballer23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He wasnt revived cuz he was too op (btw great vid)