@@urbanumbra6170 imagine if he was actually portrayed by a Space Shuttle or a Valkyrie though 🤯 SR71 is cool as but so far away from any of Jetfire's colour schemes.
He was definitely supposed to be Jetfire(technically they should have gone with Skyfire but, oh well.) In the original G1 he was a Decepticon then an Autobot as Chris said in the video.
Cybertron is probably my favourite version of Jetfire. He came off as the level headed second in command but had his moments of comedy as well. Plus his design was the coolest, he looked like a mech version of Boba Fett before they did the crossover figures
Honestly, I hated Cybertron Jetfire’s design and Australian accent. His cargo plane look wasn’t as impressive as a space shuttle and the green paint just looked ugly to me. And Wing Saber basically took his role as the superior Autobot flyer that combined with Optimus. Jetfire’s Armada incarnation looks the coolest to me.
ColinDowdVEVO 86 they are ok, but how will they be able to make plans to stop the decepticons. We know skyfire died because he sacrificed himself. But they wouldn't have any ideas of the dinobots. Then they would be screwed. I guess they can have their own team? Idk
Jetfire is now in the War for Cybertron Trilogy, siding with the Decepticons at first, even leading the Seekers, before he opened his eyes and sided with the Autobots. One iconic scene is him shooting Skywarp in the back when his ideals were conflicted.
I always think of Jetfire as the flashy second in command Armada character and Skyfire as the scientist G1 character. He's one of the few characters I prefer in his cartoon portrayal rather than comic origin.
The Star Wars Crossovers ARC-170 Starfighter figure was my substitute Jetfire toy, since I never got an actual Jetfire. Might get the Cold Constructs third party MP Cybertron Jetfire...
*Jetfire:* “What the bleeding hell?! We were ‘avin a ripe rip-snorter here, and then this piker shows up, and just like that, it’s goodnight Irene!” *Ironhide:* “We get it, you’re from space Australia!”*
I really like the idea of Skyfire and Jetfire being two separate characters, Skyfire being the scientist who wasnt the most willing to fight, and friend of Starscream before the War, with Jetfire being the more Autobots Officer type, with a background in science, and looks similar to the Veritech/ F- 14 tomcat design.
I like what they did with his character in siege, he became one of my favorites un that series right away. The way they developed him from arrogant decepticon to remorseful autobot was very well done in my opinion.
Being from the Netherlands, I owned the Jetfire toy as a kid in 1985...sadly it broke, but I remember it fondly. Such a nicely built figure with an awesome transformation.
@@barrybend7189 I mean, Jetfire _was_ one of the Macross variable fighters. But the dude designed the first Masterpiece Starscream, which turns into a nearly perfect real-life F-15.
Armada Jetfire is where it's at for me. Somehow his name made more sense to me when considering a space shuttle taking off. I wonder if his combination with Optimus was a concept fueled by the European slant on Jetfire as the leader... My one hope for Cyberverse is for Jetfire to combine with Optimus again but I guess it's playing it too straight laced G1 for that to happen.
waspshot23 Armada's Jetfire was so Badass and it was Epic seeing him and Optimus Combine, I have a Nickname for Their Fusion, it could either be Jet Optimus or Jet Prime, Fire Optimus or Fire Prime, Jet Mode Optimus Prime... Those last two I just thought of lol
It may be the fact that Armada was my first major exposure to the series, but that version of Jetfire still remains to be my favorite. The space shuttle alt mode is also admittedly really cool.
“Legal headache” considering he’s a Phoenix Hawk (BattleTech) to me I definitely get where you’re coming from, also Harmony Gold keeps suing the owners of BattleTech whenever a new license based on the property is announced or released even though the infringing mechs have been redesigned. Harmony Gold just likes to sue for Macross but never release anything and gate off the actual anime series from being released outside of Japan.
@@granmastersword My understanding is that Harmony Gold's boss was a shady property developer from SoCal who had grand dreams of becoming a movie mogul, but when they fell through, sat on what IPs he had out of spite.
Armada Jetfire was my second ever Transformer. I enjoyed the heck out of him, his gimmicks were cool and he looked so awesome. He still has a very prominent spot on my shelf.
Ay man. I just recently found your Channel. As an avid transformers fan who has liked the genre ever since I was a kid, I can proudly say that the videos you made so far are one of the most accurate transformers descriptions ever made! As there are hundreds if not thousands of transformers, I would hope you would create even more of such of these videos. Once again keep up the good work and you earned yourself a subscriber!
He was so short-lived on screen though. My disappointment was immeasurable that he died to give Optimus his parts. Then Optimus just shrugs them off for completely different flight tech in the next movie 🤦 Bay did a huge disservice to the Jetfire character along with many many others.
Great episode! I knew about the Macross origins but didn’t know about the issues in Europe too, or that Optimus Prime wasn’t even allowed to be sold there!
Oh he was sold... just not as Optimus Prime until later. Joustra's version was based on the Diaclone CarRobots (Battle Convoy in this case) and was sold in France. During the transition from Diaclone to Transformers, Italian CarRobots _and_ Transformers were both sold under the "Trasformer" name. (Never ask about Italian missiles.)
Almost happened ! Animated art direction Derrick Wyatt used to say that, since Animated Jetfire was designed by someone else and had no connection to the G1 character, he'd have created a character who DID and called him "Skyfire."
I have always identified him as Skyfire and I really enjoyed Dreamwave’s portrayal of the character. Thanks for the video! I learned a few things that I never knew about the character, like his U.K. beginnings.
My favourite version of Jetfire would have to be from the Cyberverse series. I loved the part where him and Skybite were tricked by Starscream by using the power of the All spark to battle each other
Wow I'm really glad I watched this. Most transformers lore channel's I've found are atrocious, being misinformed and often just making things up but you clearly know your stuff! Great video, will subscribe and be back for more!
I got the G1 Jetfire toy this past week, and it's a super good toy. I'm really glad design elements from the original figure stuck around. The antenna and helmet design are more interesting to me
that was awesome. thanks for making this. jet fire was always one of my favorite transformers, especially because of same design of the valkyries from Robotech/Macross. Finding out he was written as being atheistic is extra awesome.
The Fans Toys animation accurate interpretation of the character is one of the best Transformers figures I've seen. Both robot and alt modes are fantastic. I have him alongside my original G1 Jetfire and he dwarfs that bot, even though that was one of the bigger G1 toys.
Thanks for putting the spotlight on my favorite G1 toy. I forgot how confusing this Autobot leadership issue and the name switching was with the European toyline back then. That image of Megatron vs. Jetfire sure brought back some memories.
Wow, I knew about some of the controversy of this character, but had no idea it was that widespread. Thanks for sharing the fascinating history (and clearing up the mystery of why he came and went so fast) of this character.
I tell ya when I was a kid and he came out on shelves. I had ta have him begged my mother day and night .then I got him he was bigger then almost all the autobots and just so cool I still have him in storage. He also was so well built ratcheted arms & legs . The best alt mode I've nothing but good things to say about this toy. Great review.
Same here, except I broke his shoulder joint the first time I tried to transform him. lol, I begged to exchange him fort a new one, but my Dad said he was junk for breaking so easy and wouldn't let me. ...I never got over that, as he was easily the coolest G1 toy ever made. Thanks to ebay, I now have him back in my possession!
The funny thing about Ceji Jousta having the rights to Diaclone in Europe is Ceji also owned Revell in both the US and Europe at the time. Revell created the Robotech name and imported the model kit forms of the VF-1 Valkyrie as the "Robotech Changers" kit line. Harmony Gold then partnered with Revell to turn Robotech into the American version of Macross. So Ceji was part of the controversy from early on.
there was a toy released in the rid 2015 toyline depicting a character called "Stormshot". considering that his early working name was going to be "Skyfire", i believe that this was supposed to be a rid 2015 version of the Aligned Continuity Jetfire seen in the "War For Cybertron" and "Fall of Cybertron'" video games. Unfortunately he never appeared in the series itself, however if he had appeared I imagine it would be similar to when the aligned continuity Jazz from the same games appeared in the series. showing up in only 2 episodes, the first would've shown him arriving on earth in some unexplained way and winding up helping to catch one or more of the Alcamore prisoners, and then coming back to help Optimus Prime and his team with the decepticon invasion of earth in the second.
Do the basics on Prowl! Jetfire was my other favorite Autobot (after Prowl). He was one of my favorite toys ever. The design was Japanese fantastic! So much more innovative than American toys. I always wondered why all the changes on the cartoon and comic. Honestly, my biggest gripe was the changes to his head. I loved the simple yet powerful head sculpt of the figure. To me, the other versions were busy and distracting. Trying too hard to change his appearance. Thank you for this informative video.
Looks wise, my favorite incarnation of Jetfire is actually the leader class toy that came out a few years ago. It perfectly meshes the G1 cartoon model and the Macross figure together. Like how it has a Skyfire head sculpt with an optional Valkyrie-esque mask (I use it as a battle mask). It's the best of both worlds! PS: Do the basics on Jazz.
G1 will always be my fav, but that Leader Class Jetfire is great. Hey, please check out my custom job I did on it to make a bit more G1'ish... www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/generations-jetfire-retro-paint-and-decals.1007274/
If you're talking about that Thrilling 30 Jetfire, I actually saw him at my hobby shop being sold for the rough converted equivalent of 51 USD in the box. I'm still a relatively new TF fan with only a few toys, mostly from recent lines like Power of the Primes. Jetfire's character history both in TF lore as well as his legal headaches and whathaveyou with Macross are really interesting to me, so I've been wondering about the various Jetfire toys out there, and wondering if that Thrilling 30 one is worth it.
@@myriadmediamusings Probably the best you're gonna find for a decent price if you're aiming at a G1 style Jetfire. It's unlikely that Hasbro are going to do a re-release of the original toy, and getting an original it off the secondary market would probably cost an arm and a leg. The Thrilling 30 version is better than the Classics one to boot.
5:50 I like how they had the blue Jetfire into a new Autobot name Overcast and to be his brother. 6:00 Out of all of Jetfire character designs, I like the one from Transformers Cybertron the most. From the accent, to green color scheme and cargo plane mode.
This guy is amazing. When I got him back in 198? his packaging was huge, only equaled by Optimus Prime himself. I had no idea about Robotech or anything like that, but it was obvious that Jetfire was something different and amazing, even compared to many of the other very well-made Transformers being made at the time.
My favorite version of Jetfire is from Transformers Revenge of the Fallen I love the way how we looked in the movie, but even though he was elderly character he was really good on the battlefield in Egypt.
Ah, Armada. Some of the best days of Transformer history, to me at least. I just loved how Prime was done in the series. Although Jetfire may not want to be pants, he made a good set of pants.
My favorite has always been the G1 version. (I liked him enough to eventually get the original variant of the toy, which still included a Macross insignia on the left wing.) I always imagined Jetfire and Skyfire as two different individuals -- Skyfire as the Cybertronian scientist and Jetfire as a Shockwave-built clone of Skyfire who eventually came online as a loyal Autobot warrior.
My fave incarnation of Jetfire is the one from Transformers Cybertron. Why, you may ask? Let's just say I have a thing for guys with foreign accents and leave it at that. BTW My nickname for Cybertron Jetfire is the "Aussie Aviator".
One of my favorite characters. Was first introduced to him as Skyfire in the G1 cartoon. Then when I saw the toy I always wondered why his name was Jetfire and he looked like a Robotech robot. Funny how things turn out. I would have to say my top forms for him are 1. G1 Cartoon Skyfire, 2. Armada Jetfire (since he was used as a transport in a couple episodes in G1 I though it was kinda fitting to redo him as a space shuttle), 3. G1 Jetfire toy (Robotech) and 4. Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen Jetfire (Alt. mode only I never liked the Alien or maybe it's Centipede/Transformer Hybrid Child look). I just think his robot mode in the movie was just as much a monstrosity as what they did with Devastator. Was glad to see they made a proper release of the toy for his G1 Cartoon form. Too bad the trouble they had with him early on would of been cool to have had the original in more episodes. Was wondering is you might consider a basics on The Female Autobots and Decepticons.
Always loved the original version of Jetfire/Skyfire since i was a kid. I remember the days when me and my friend who owns a lot of transformers toys always play after school and i always make sure that i have first dibs on his Jetfire while the others have their own faves. Now, i own a movie version of Jetfire which i combined with my leader class prime and never spearated them for a span of 2 years. Keep up the good work sir Chris, i support you all the way.
Long comment, skip to the TL;DR for a fun fact about one of his toy incarnations: It's 100% the nostalgia of coming home from elementary and seeing the tail end of the Unicron series talking when I say I ultimately prefer the Australian cargo jet version of him. I remember in the later seasons they would have the characters internal monologue while they played the transforming/rolling out B-roll. In one of these sequences he described a situation where you had to get somewhere, and fast even though he's a cargo plane, with everyone counting on him. That coupled with his personality/nuggets of great interaction with the human characters made up for his extremely lackluster character development. That final series he was part of may also be the reason I'm so good at math. Hear me out: the show was on thirty minutes after school got out. After the cartoon block I would have responsibilities/playing with the kids outside/dinner/sleep. The biggest chunk of my homework time was spent on math BUT it was also the only work I could do since you can't exactly write or read very effectively during commercial breaks. So I ended up speed running equations which lead to me tutoring math in highschool which lead to going into mathematics in college. All thanks to this conclusion to the series which I didn't even know was a trilogy until this video! Tl;DR I like the Australian version the best, transformers inadvertently made me good at math?! Fun fact: His toy incarnation of his Australian iteration also had a recolor called 'Sky Shadow'. His description reading something to the effect that he had grown tired of the 'passive' role as earths defender while Optimus was away (gathering more Mcguffin keys or leading cybertron proper) so he searched the archives for a deceased Decepticon to steal the identity of. The name fit him a little too well ,ironically, because while the other bots would be plotting against each other or fighting no one suspected this newcomer rising through the ranks... waiting for the right moment to strike when victory would be assured. This is so cool that his 'story' in this cannon would come full circle to see him going back to being amongst decepticons again and just adds so much more to a his characterization!
My favorite incarnation of him has always been the WFC/FOC version. Although I really liked the G1 version and the compelling story of him, there’s just something about the WFC/FOC version that makes me like him more. The design is my personal favorite out here of all of them, his Australian accent is cool, and he was just a badass in those games
I actually have the Robots in Disguise Jetfire toy somewhere in storage, but he's missing that big speaker-looking gun of his Also, for those who have essentially been living under a rock for the past couple of years: Hasbro has released a new Jetfire toy, introducing the "Commander Class" to toylines, in the War for Cybertron: Siege toyline, even including armor and weapons to have the same "armored up" form his original toy had, face-covering mask in all.
If you want a durable, posable G1 styled Jetfire, go for the Classics mold from '06. I don't trust the more modern Combiner Wars toy to be durable enough.
primeoetgrunn Yeah, the plastic on recent releases looks cheap af. I did just find the 3rd party Phoenix though, so I think I'll be saving 2500 pennies for that...
For Christmas, my brother and I got Robotech toys. The first time I saw skyfire/jetfire, I thought it was the same toy but bigger and different color schemes. It wasn't until a neighbor got it that I basically confirmed they were one in the same.
I wish we had a movie about just Jetfire, like his relationship with Starscream, his interesting personality and maybe him on Earth during the war or something
He's finally getting some more love. Big Bad Toy Store just released a pre-order page as part of the Transformers Masterpiece collection. Looks good so far from the promotional pages.
Here in the Netherlands the first two years were indeed with Jetfire as leader (distributed by Milton Bradley (MB)), which also gave us a RED Tracks instead of a Blue one among others things. The mini-comic shown was actually drawn by Marvel themselves, and even show Optimus as a background character in the first panel (!). It was confusing to me, as the cartoon DID have Prime as the leader. Still Jetfire was the 'real' leader for me in the beginning (bigger too).
Well done, sir. You unraveled the complicated, global mess that is Jetfire's career with a certain grace :) excellent work! The only incarnation I have is the original 1984 Autobot version, Macross insignia on the wing and all :) he is complete, though, and beautiful.
For about 20 years now, maybe more, Harmony Gold's business model has been suing companies for infringing on the Robotech license and almost never using it.
If your first exposure to Jetfire was in Armada (like mine), you can't beat it. He's a legendary 2nd in command that gets called to Earth and can combine with Optimus. And his voice actor was solid. Such a good character. Was very excited to see him in that terrible movie 😂 Very nice touch they had him combine with Optimus again
Jetfire is my Favorite Autobot(next to the Dinobots). Since he's pretty much the only known Autobot with an Arial Vehicle mode. Where as 99% of the Autobots have Ground Vehicle Modes.
I saw The design in Macross first so when I saw the G1 toys I was really shocked that An anime character was there and I always wondered why. Thanks your the video it answered my questions
The G1 Macross based toy is where it's at for me. Best G1 Transformer hands down in my opinion. I'm just sad that we'll never get an official Masterpiece version... though I can still hope for 3'd party or KO. ;)
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I like how Jetfire just tore off his Deception insignia like it was simply a sticker.
Plot Twist: Because of his dubious legal status, Jetfire was the only one who knew he was a toy.
@@Gojirawars03I support this
My favorite part is how he pulls out an Autobot insignia and puts it on.
Like, why would he even have that on his person?
Who knew you can switch sides
TF One writer: "Decepticon insignia sticker" bro, write that stuff down. I have a brilliant idea.
I like the idea of Jetfire and Starscream being former friends. Adds interesting dynamic between the two
Yeah I like those little interactions of “Starscream what the heck happened to you”
Fans: Why does movie Jetfire look so different from his G1 counterpart?
Every other cartoon incarnation:
Starscream and Megatron: ALLOW US TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES SKYFUCKERS!
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Movie jet fire is the coolest looking imo because he’s an sr71, would be so cool if we got to see him when he was in his prime
@@urbanumbra6170 Maybe Rise of The Beast or the new movies set in the past will do it?
@@urbanumbra6170 imagine if he was actually portrayed by a Space Shuttle or a Valkyrie though 🤯
SR71 is cool as but so far away from any of Jetfire's colour schemes.
I still think the revenge of the fallen jetfire was originally supposed to be skywarp, since he can teleport and is still a decepticon.
james marsh the movies seekers all have the ability to teleport because they scout planet to harvest energon.
That actually makes a lot of sense
Jetfire wasn't still a decepticon when he died
He was definitely supposed to be Jetfire(technically they should have gone with Skyfire but, oh well.) In the original G1 he was a Decepticon then an Autobot as Chris said in the video.
@@elijahwatson3474 star scream was the only seeker in the live action movies and yes sky warp does have the ability to teleport
Cybertron is probably my favourite version of Jetfire. He came off as the level headed second in command but had his moments of comedy as well. Plus his design was the coolest, he looked like a mech version of Boba Fett before they did the crossover figures
Ontarioku and his voice
I like the cyberverse version
Agreed, it was my favorite along side with Optimus design
All I have to say is, all that for a punch
Honestly, I hated Cybertron Jetfire’s design and Australian accent. His cargo plane look wasn’t as impressive as a space shuttle and the green paint just looked ugly to me. And Wing Saber basically took his role as the superior Autobot flyer that combined with Optimus. Jetfire’s Armada incarnation looks the coolest to me.
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Jetfire as the Autobot leader actually sounds like a cool idea.
Well, big toys do work for faction leaders well.
Also, Jetfire as a leader would be a big fat middle finger to Leader-1 toys. Cy-kill approves!
June The Fox I like either jetfire or blaster as autobot leader
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ColinDowdVEVO 86 they are ok, but how will they be able to make plans to stop the decepticons. We know skyfire died because he sacrificed himself. But they wouldn't have any ideas of the dinobots. Then they would be screwed. I guess they can have their own team? Idk
The Superior Superion247 I’m not setting it in any particular universe I’m just saying they would make interesting leaders
Jetfire’s secret identity is a shady lawyer that helps his toys sell.
Ahh, the case to end all cases.
Lolololololololololololololololololololol
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I mean if shady means screwing over Harmony Gold then that shady lawyer is a hero
@@Ecl1ps0_ my uncle had the jetfirebtiy greoing up I found in my grandpas computer room
The current Jetfire story as told in Siege is pretty dang good.
Agree. His background as Decepticon was fully explored.
Jeff Ward it’s great the whole time I was like please switch side
Cuts of starscreams arm for talking 10 seconds later HONOUR!!!!
Me too! I really loves it!
Yep
Jetfire is now in the War for Cybertron Trilogy, siding with the Decepticons at first, even leading the Seekers, before he opened his eyes and sided with the Autobots. One iconic scene is him shooting Skywarp in the back when his ideals were conflicted.
I know. It's an interesting take on the Jetfire origin. I love it.
It's a great depiction, but he's still a traitor to the Decepticon cause and lord Megatron
Well, that's what I like about Jetfire, he gets his priorities straightened out.
I always think of Jetfire as the flashy second in command Armada character and Skyfire as the scientist G1 character. He's one of the few characters I prefer in his cartoon portrayal rather than comic origin.
2:39 he's got a red deception symbol
Same. I grew up with an Energon VHS and a Cybertron DVD. Never quite understood that Australian accent Jetfire got in the Cybertron cartoon...
The Star Wars Crossovers ARC-170 Starfighter figure was my substitute Jetfire toy, since I never got an actual Jetfire. Might get the Cold Constructs third party MP Cybertron Jetfire...
*Jetfire:* “What the bleeding hell?! We were ‘avin a ripe rip-snorter here, and then this piker shows up, and just like that, it’s goodnight Irene!”
*Ironhide:* “We get it, you’re from space Australia!”*
I feel like this tfs reference
@@AC_memes It is.
Australians. Reaaaaally overhyped Accents
@@AC_memes love your username lol
Go Space Broncos!
I really like the idea of Skyfire and Jetfire being two separate characters, Skyfire being the scientist who wasnt the most willing to fight, and friend of Starscream before the War, with Jetfire being the more Autobots Officer type, with a background in science, and looks similar to the Veritech/ F- 14 tomcat design.
and i like the idea where skyfire originally originate on cybertron while jetfire was built on earth. p.s skyfire superior, jetfire inferior.
I like what they did with his character in siege, he became one of my favorites un that series right away. The way they developed him from arrogant decepticon to remorseful autobot was very well done in my opinion.
Being from the Netherlands, I owned the Jetfire toy as a kid in 1985...sadly it broke, but I remember it fondly. Such a nicely built figure with an awesome transformation.
The Human Torch because it's designer Shoji Kowamori is a god of transforming mechs. Example Macross variable fighters and Nervash from Eureka 7.
Thank you for this enlightening piece of information that I did not know. :)
The Human Torch your welcome.
@@barrybend7189 I mean, Jetfire _was_ one of the Macross variable fighters. But the dude designed the first Masterpiece Starscream, which turns into a nearly perfect real-life F-15.
I still have mine in box put up. I wanted it due to the Robotech cartoon.
Armada Jetfire is where it's at for me. Somehow his name made more sense to me when considering a space shuttle taking off. I wonder if his combination with Optimus was a concept fueled by the European slant on Jetfire as the leader... My one hope for Cyberverse is for Jetfire to combine with Optimus again but I guess it's playing it too straight laced G1 for that to happen.
waspshot23 Armada's Jetfire was so Badass and it was Epic seeing him and Optimus Combine, I have a Nickname for Their Fusion, it could either be Jet Optimus or Jet Prime, Fire Optimus or Fire Prime, Jet Mode Optimus Prime... Those last two I just thought of lol
Marcus O jet convoy sounds nice
@@marcuso4934 they called the combination Jet Optimus usually except when the script was rushed and used the japanese Jet Convoy name instead
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer I didn't know the English Dub called him Jet Convey, thanks for telling me :-)
@@marcuso4934 it was only once I think during the debut episode
It may be the fact that Armada was my first major exposure to the series, but that version of Jetfire still remains to be my favorite. The space shuttle alt mode is also admittedly really cool.
“Legal headache” considering he’s a Phoenix Hawk (BattleTech) to me I definitely get where you’re coming from, also Harmony Gold keeps suing the owners of BattleTech whenever a new license based on the property is announced or released even though the infringing mechs have been redesigned. Harmony Gold just likes to sue for Macross but never release anything and gate off the actual anime series from being released outside of Japan.
HG is weird, alright. They prevent Macross to enjoy prominence in the west, but does jack shit with the IP save for a promised Robotech movie
@@granmastersword My understanding is that Harmony Gold's boss was a shady property developer from SoCal who had grand dreams of becoming a movie mogul, but when they fell through, sat on what IPs he had out of spite.
He's a legal headache alright. Even after this video, I still can't completely wrap my head around it
Same here... But still... no wthat his toy as SKyfire is out in the WFC-Siege line, I LOVE HIM!
I like the name "Jetfire" a lot better than the name "Skyfire".
Y s_ame
Im kinda torn. I like both names
Same
Yeah same
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Armada Jetfire was my second ever Transformer. I enjoyed the heck out of him, his gimmicks were cool and he looked so awesome. He still has a very prominent spot on my shelf.
I think it would be cool to see Jetfire in Transformers Prime, team up with Agent Fowler
My thoughts exactly
MORE CONNECTIONS TO WFC AND FOC. Yes.
That would be fun
I thought Jetfire was the airborne autobot coming to the rescue at first, before it became clear it was upgraded Optimus.
Ay man. I just recently found your Channel. As an avid transformers fan who has liked the genre ever since I was a kid, I can proudly say that the videos you made so far are one of the most accurate transformers descriptions ever made! As there are hundreds if not thousands of transformers, I would hope you would create even more of such of these videos. Once again keep up the good work and you earned yourself a subscriber!
Basics on Megatron please! Pretty please.
The Bayformers Jetfire is honestly an amazing character, one of the few good things to come from those.
He was so short-lived on screen though. My disappointment was immeasurable that he died to give Optimus his parts. Then Optimus just shrugs them off for completely different flight tech in the next movie 🤦
Bay did a huge disservice to the Jetfire character along with many many others.
Great episode! I knew about the Macross origins but didn’t know about the issues in Europe too, or that Optimus Prime wasn’t even allowed to be sold there!
Oh he was sold... just not as Optimus Prime until later. Joustra's version was based on the Diaclone CarRobots (Battle Convoy in this case) and was sold in France. During the transition from Diaclone to Transformers, Italian CarRobots _and_ Transformers were both sold under the "Trasformer" name. (Never ask about Italian missiles.)
Your channel is now my new favorite Saturday morning show.
Yeah. The hell with Saturday morning TV.
Same
Would it be interesting if both Jetfire and Skyfire were two different characters
Almost happened ! Animated art direction Derrick Wyatt used to say that, since Animated Jetfire was designed by someone else and had no connection to the G1 character, he'd have created a character who DID and called him "Skyfire."
Oh cool, is there a link to that
Never actually got designed!
Well that sucks, oh well at least we got fanartists
Chris McFeely man, I can't wait until you do a basics on transformers animated and those character designs
I have always identified him as Skyfire and I really enjoyed Dreamwave’s portrayal of the character. Thanks for the video! I learned a few things that I never knew about the character, like his U.K. beginnings.
My favourite version of Jetfire would have to be from the Cyberverse series. I loved the part where him and Skybite were tricked by Starscream by using the power of the All spark to battle each other
I've actually been to the museum where revenge of the fallen Jetfire was. Now I will never unsee their SR-71 as the cranky old seeker
Same
Hey it would be fun for a Macross/transforms crossover. So Jetfire can use the Macross design.
Pfft Like Harmony Gold would let that happen. I wish though
@@Boom__6678 Why bother with Harmony Gold though? Go through Bandai, and the real Macross, not the chopped up mess that is "Robotech".
It’s also the Phoenix Hawk LAM from Battletech
@@Boom__6678 well they are easing up on that stuff now. You'd have better luck looking to Bandai tho
Wow I'm really glad I watched this. Most transformers lore channel's I've found are atrocious, being misinformed and often just making things up but you clearly know your stuff! Great video, will subscribe and be back for more!
*My favorite Jetfire is the Bayverse version. If we gotten the original prequel about WW2, we would have seen such an awesome moment with him!*
2:17 Does anyone else hear him say sky f***er?
*It's that traitor Skyfuqer!*
Lmao
someone seems salty about being betrayed
YES
I will never un here that
I always thought that the characters true name was “Skyfire”, with “Jetfire” being the trademark-friendly name.
Love your videos mate. Seeing your video pop up in my feed makes my day. Hope someday you get on Springer
SimS cool mjolnir profile pic
king Thor haha Thank you!
@@sims8717 hello
I got the G1 Jetfire toy this past week, and it's a super good toy. I'm really glad design elements from the original figure stuck around. The antenna and helmet design are more interesting to me
that was awesome. thanks for making this.
jet fire was always one of my favorite transformers, especially because of same design of the valkyries from Robotech/Macross.
Finding out he was written as being atheistic is extra awesome.
The Fans Toys animation accurate interpretation of the character is one of the best Transformers figures I've seen. Both robot and alt modes are fantastic. I have him alongside my original G1 Jetfire and he dwarfs that bot, even though that was one of the bigger G1 toys.
My favorite Transformers characters are: Bumblebee - TP Smokescreen - Ratchet - Hound - Drift - Jetfire - Ultra Magnus
Then for Decepticons is: Soundwave - Starscream
Thanks for putting the spotlight on my favorite G1 toy. I forgot how confusing this Autobot leadership issue and the name switching was with the European toyline back then. That image of Megatron vs. Jetfire sure brought back some memories.
Wow, I knew about some of the controversy of this character, but had no idea it was that widespread. Thanks for sharing the fascinating history (and clearing up the mystery of why he came and went so fast) of this character.
I tell ya when I was a kid and he came out on shelves. I had ta have him begged my mother day and night .then I got him he was bigger then almost all the autobots and just so cool I still have him in storage. He also was so well built ratcheted arms & legs . The best alt mode I've nothing but good things to say about this toy. Great review.
Same here, except I broke his shoulder joint the first time I tried to transform him. lol, I begged to exchange him fort a new one, but my Dad said he was junk for breaking so easy and wouldn't let me. ...I never got over that, as he was easily the coolest G1 toy ever made.
Thanks to ebay, I now have him back in my possession!
Do a Basic on Deadlock/Drift
Lol just for one character
Lol if they won't accept you as a star, you create a character that would be accepted
Yes
@@somphothbsiratsamy3748 Deadlock is Drift when he was a Decepticon and changed his name to Drift after joining the Autobots
I remember that, when I saw Jetfire's first episode, I assumed that he died at the end. My brother and cried a lot after that
The funniest joke in all Transformers is knowing Starscream had any friends
The funny thing about Ceji Jousta having the rights to Diaclone in Europe is Ceji also owned Revell in both the US and Europe at the time. Revell created the Robotech name and imported the model kit forms of the VF-1 Valkyrie as the "Robotech Changers" kit line. Harmony Gold then partnered with Revell to turn Robotech into the American version of Macross. So Ceji was part of the controversy from early on.
there was a toy released in the rid 2015 toyline depicting a character called "Stormshot". considering that his early working name was going to be "Skyfire", i believe that this was supposed to be a rid 2015 version of the Aligned Continuity Jetfire seen in the "War For Cybertron" and "Fall of Cybertron'" video games. Unfortunately he never appeared in the series itself, however if he had appeared I imagine it would be similar to when the aligned continuity Jazz from the same games appeared in the series. showing up in only 2 episodes, the first would've shown him arriving on earth in some unexplained way and winding up helping to catch one or more of the Alcamore prisoners, and then coming back to help Optimus Prime and his team with the decepticon invasion of earth in the second.
I still have my Jetfire from the 80s. Favorite toy and out of all the Transformers that I had back then, he is one that always remained.
Do the basics on Prowl!
Jetfire was my other favorite Autobot (after Prowl). He was one of my favorite toys ever. The design was Japanese fantastic! So much more innovative than American toys. I always wondered why all the changes on the cartoon and comic. Honestly, my biggest gripe was the changes to his head. I loved the simple yet powerful head sculpt of the figure. To me, the other versions were busy and distracting. Trying too hard to change his appearance. Thank you for this informative video.
Looks wise, my favorite incarnation of Jetfire is actually the leader class toy that came out a few years ago. It perfectly meshes the G1 cartoon model and the Macross figure together. Like how it has a Skyfire head sculpt with an optional Valkyrie-esque mask (I use it as a battle mask). It's the best of both worlds!
PS: Do the basics on Jazz.
G1 will always be my fav, but that Leader Class Jetfire is great. Hey, please check out my custom job I did on it to make a bit more G1'ish...
www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/generations-jetfire-retro-paint-and-decals.1007274/
I wanted that figure badly, since he's a mix of his cartoon design and the original toy.
If you're talking about that Thrilling 30 Jetfire, I actually saw him at my hobby shop being sold for the rough converted equivalent of 51 USD in the box. I'm still a relatively new TF fan with only a few toys, mostly from recent lines like Power of the Primes. Jetfire's character history both in TF lore as well as his legal headaches and whathaveyou with Macross are really interesting to me, so I've been wondering about the various Jetfire toys out there, and wondering if that Thrilling 30 one is worth it.
@@myriadmediamusings Probably the best you're gonna find for a decent price if you're aiming at a G1 style Jetfire. It's unlikely that Hasbro are going to do a re-release of the original toy, and getting an original it off the secondary market would probably cost an arm and a leg. The Thrilling 30 version is better than the Classics one to boot.
The upcoming Siege Jetfire looks absolutely incredible, not gonna lie...
5:50 I like how they had the blue Jetfire into a new Autobot name Overcast and to be his brother.
6:00 Out of all of Jetfire character designs, I like the one from Transformers Cybertron the most. From the accent, to green color scheme and cargo plane mode.
This guy is amazing. When I got him back in 198? his packaging was huge, only equaled by Optimus Prime himself. I had no idea about Robotech or anything like that, but it was obvious that Jetfire was something different and amazing, even compared to many of the other very well-made Transformers being made at the time.
My favorite version of Jetfire is from Transformers Revenge of the Fallen I love the way how we looked in the movie, but even though he was elderly character he was really good on the battlefield in Egypt.
Jetfire ripping out his own spark so his remains could be reformatted into armor and weapons for Optimus is, no pun intended, metal as hell.
Would have loved to see jetfire in transformers prime
Ah, Armada.
Some of the best days of Transformer history, to me at least.
I just loved how Prime was done in the series. Although Jetfire may not want to be pants, he made a good set of pants.
Thanks for making these videos! You’ve helped me learn more about Transformers than I ever have!
Slowly watching through your BASICS videos. These are great to add background stuff that I wasn't aware of as a kid back during the G1 days.
My favorite has always been the G1 version. (I liked him enough to eventually get the original variant of the toy, which still included a Macross insignia on the left wing.) I always imagined Jetfire and Skyfire as two different individuals -- Skyfire as the Cybertronian scientist and Jetfire as a Shockwave-built clone of Skyfire who eventually came online as a loyal Autobot warrior.
My fave incarnation of Jetfire is the one from Transformers Cybertron. Why, you may ask? Let's just say I have a thing for guys with foreign accents and leave it at that. BTW My nickname for Cybertron Jetfire is the "Aussie Aviator".
I'm not surprised that Japan puts a heavy emphasis on Jetfire and Starscream's dynamic; they've always had a taste for Enemies-to-Lovers.
One of my favorite characters. Was first introduced to him as Skyfire in the G1 cartoon. Then when I saw the toy I always wondered why his name was Jetfire and he looked like a Robotech robot. Funny how things turn out. I would have to say my top forms for him are 1. G1 Cartoon Skyfire, 2. Armada Jetfire (since he was used as a transport in a couple episodes in G1 I though it was kinda fitting to redo him as a space shuttle), 3. G1 Jetfire toy (Robotech) and 4. Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen Jetfire (Alt. mode only I never liked the Alien or maybe it's Centipede/Transformer Hybrid Child look). I just think his robot mode in the movie was just as much a monstrosity as what they did with Devastator. Was glad to see they made a proper release of the toy for his G1 Cartoon form. Too bad the trouble they had with him early on would of been cool to have had the original in more episodes. Was wondering is you might consider a basics on The Female Autobots and Decepticons.
Enjoyed that one! How about one on humans? The Whitwickys, Carly, Chip Chase etc? Hmmm.. too hard.
Always loved the original version of Jetfire/Skyfire since i was a kid. I remember the days when me and my friend who owns a lot of transformers toys always play after school and i always make sure that i have first dibs on his Jetfire while the others have their own faves. Now, i own a movie version of Jetfire which i combined with my leader class prime and never spearated them for a span of 2 years. Keep up the good work sir Chris, i support you all the way.
I love your videos i genuenly get happy everytime
Jetfire is my favorite transformer! Thanks for the video!
JetFire was "THE" toy to get when i was a boy. DinoBots were a close second place.
So great! I had the jetfire g2 toy (grey and blue) in kindergarten (1995) and never knew all this background! Jetfire is awesome!!!
Long comment, skip to the TL;DR for a fun fact about one of his toy incarnations:
It's 100% the nostalgia of coming home from elementary and seeing the tail end of the Unicron series talking when I say I ultimately prefer the Australian cargo jet version of him.
I remember in the later seasons they would have the characters internal monologue while they played the transforming/rolling out B-roll. In one of these sequences he described a situation where you had to get somewhere, and fast even though he's a cargo plane, with everyone counting on him. That coupled with his personality/nuggets of great interaction with the human characters made up for his extremely lackluster character development.
That final series he was part of may also be the reason I'm so good at math. Hear me out: the show was on thirty minutes after school got out. After the cartoon block I would have responsibilities/playing with the kids outside/dinner/sleep. The biggest chunk of my homework time was spent on math BUT it was also the only work I could do since you can't exactly write or read very effectively during commercial breaks. So I ended up speed running equations which lead to me tutoring math in highschool which lead to going into mathematics in college. All thanks to this conclusion to the series which I didn't even know was a trilogy until this video!
Tl;DR I like the Australian version the best, transformers inadvertently made me good at math?!
Fun fact: His toy incarnation of his Australian iteration also had a recolor called 'Sky Shadow'. His description reading something to the effect that he had grown tired of the 'passive' role as earths defender while Optimus was away (gathering more Mcguffin keys or leading cybertron proper) so he searched the archives for a deceased Decepticon to steal the identity of. The name fit him a little too well ,ironically, because while the other bots would be plotting against each other or fighting no one suspected this newcomer rising through the ranks... waiting for the right moment to strike when victory would be assured. This is so cool that his 'story' in this cannon would come full circle to see him going back to being amongst decepticons again and just adds so much more to a his characterization!
Hope we get a new up to date basic on Jetfire, especially after Cyberverse and the War for Cybertron Trilogy
WTF? I had no idea that they rerecorded lines in the first season to incorporate the "Skyfire" name! Great video!
My favorite incarnation of him has always been the WFC/FOC version. Although I really liked the G1 version and the compelling story of him, there’s just something about the WFC/FOC version that makes me like him more. The design is my personal favorite out here of all of them, his Australian accent is cool, and he was just a badass in those games
Really enjoyed this episode. Learned more than I thought about this guy!
I actually have the Robots in Disguise Jetfire toy somewhere in storage, but he's missing that big speaker-looking gun of his
Also, for those who have essentially been living under a rock for the past couple of years: Hasbro has released a new Jetfire toy, introducing the "Commander Class" to toylines, in the War for Cybertron: Siege toyline, even including armor and weapons to have the same "armored up" form his original toy had, face-covering mask in all.
Can you do ones on:
1. Unicron
2. Primus/Cybertron
3. Clones
4. Crossover toys (Star Wars/GI joe)
He did Unicron
I actually always wondered why Jetfire was portrayed as leader in that mini-comic, now I finally know. Thanks! Brilliant stuff!
That initial G1 toy was a beast. I think I broke mine within 2 weeks, trying to fit the backpack. Might need to check out the recent versions...
If you want a durable, posable G1 styled Jetfire, go for the Classics mold from '06. I don't trust the more modern Combiner Wars toy to be durable enough.
primeoetgrunn Yeah, the plastic on recent releases looks cheap af. I did just find the 3rd party Phoenix though, so I think I'll be saving 2500 pennies for that...
For Christmas, my brother and I got Robotech toys. The first time I saw skyfire/jetfire, I thought it was the same toy but bigger and different color schemes. It wasn't until a neighbor got it that I basically confirmed they were one in the same.
These are some of the best transformers videos.
(Also can you please do a basics on the transformers Star Saber)
I wish we had a movie about just Jetfire, like his relationship with Starscream, his interesting personality and maybe him on Earth during the war or something
Basics on the Combatrons..also...great video as always man..keep it up...love these little mini docs..
He's finally getting some more love. Big Bad Toy Store just released a pre-order page as part of the Transformers Masterpiece collection. Looks good so far from the promotional pages.
Now why did I think you were going to leave out the GI Joe Jet Fire! Ill never doubt you again Chris.
the gen 1 jetfire toy was one of my absolute favorite toys when i was a kid, i really wish i still had it. seriously this is so nostalgic
I loved jetfire as second in command. He is my favorite character
Something funny you probably didn’t know. In the Netherlands Optimus was trademarked for a bit so in the first 3 issues they used the name jetfire
Yes, I’ve been waiting for this one!
I would love to see a redo of this
Jetfire was actually reprogrammed in G1 to turn against Megatron
Here in the Netherlands the first two years were indeed with Jetfire as leader (distributed by Milton Bradley (MB)), which also gave us a RED Tracks instead of a Blue one among others things. The mini-comic shown was actually drawn by Marvel themselves, and even show Optimus as a background character in the first panel (!). It was confusing to me, as the cartoon DID have Prime as the leader. Still Jetfire was the 'real' leader for me in the beginning (bigger too).
Well done, sir. You unraveled the complicated, global mess that is Jetfire's career with a certain grace :) excellent work! The only incarnation I have is the original 1984 Autobot version, Macross insignia on the wing and all :) he is complete, though, and beautiful.
For about 20 years now, maybe more, Harmony Gold's business model has been suing companies for infringing on the Robotech license and almost never using it.
If your first exposure to Jetfire was in Armada (like mine), you can't beat it. He's a legendary 2nd in command that gets called to Earth and can combine with Optimus. And his voice actor was solid. Such a good character. Was very excited to see him in that terrible movie 😂 Very nice touch they had him combine with Optimus again
I've still got my original Jetfire toy, one of the few I managed to keep together to this point. My favorite one I ever had.
Another great video Chris! I was surprised you left out Jetfire's figure from the SDCC Revolution box set from 2017.
Jetfire is my Favorite Autobot(next to the Dinobots). Since he's pretty much the only known Autobot with an Arial Vehicle mode. Where as 99% of the Autobots have Ground Vehicle Modes.
It would be cool to see Starscream in the series.
I saw The design in Macross first so when I saw the G1 toys I was really shocked that An anime character was there and I always wondered why. Thanks your the video it answered my questions
I remember going to the mall with my parents and Jet Fire was just sitting up there on the shelf like.......“Take me home with you”
The G1 Macross based toy is where it's at for me. Best G1 Transformer hands down in my opinion. I'm just sad that we'll never get an official Masterpiece version... though I can still hope for 3'd party or KO. ;)