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‼️Satriani discusses vintage guitars and his ‘54 Fender Strat that got away! |
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 เม.ย. 2024
- 🔥On our latest episode of 𝙏𝙖𝙡𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙎𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙙 the Mighty Joe Satriani weighs in on the vintage guitar market and his 1954 Fender Stratocaster that got away back in the early 1980s! 😱
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Whoever cleaned the tv screens…..we need to talk! 😂
They used medicated wipes for a covid clean.
Haha…😂 I was also looking at them surprised how awfuly smudgy they are !!
Bum at the stop lights offering to wash your windshield would do a better job!
Same to whoever held the camera. Getting sea sick over here 😂
Gool ol spit shine
I love how casualy Satriani is roasting gear collectors. Haha.
It makes sense, they're generally just rich guys with cool toys, which is fine I don't care, also it's a pretty smart investment actually, they're only ever going to increase in value. A bit like Lars from Metallica said instead of parking big chunks of money in the bank he buys art, like paintings n shit because they don't lose value, they only increase. But back to the musical side, either you can play or you can't, what gear you use simply for the sake of it, who gives AF?
He's correct. The tolerances for the 58-60 Les Pauls were all over the place. Some sounded great, others sounded abysmal. They generally wound the coils until full and bought alnico bar magnets of all kinds in bulk for their pickups, so each guitar would sound substantially different from the other, and they weren't wax potted, so many were suceptible to all kinds of noise and interference. There was no consistency. Remember, the Les Paul model was DISCONTINUED after 1960. People knew they weren't all good. Certain ones were good, and they wound up in the hands of some famous people because they tried them or were gifted them, and that's what made everybody want them. It wasn't the other way around where this legendary instrument was sought by these artists and made them famous.
Most of the 50's-60's Gibsons were junk, wouldn't stay or play in tune, inlays falling out, etc. And they got even worse. By the 80's they were utter garbage, and didn't rise above Epiphone quality until 91.
Gibson has ALWAYS had horrible quality control, and one way you can tell it's a real one, and not a Chinese knock off, is if it has the bridge in the wrong place, loose frets, binding coming off, or the glue joints coming loose.
@@cnilecnile6748You went from rational to crazy ex-girlfriend real quick.
yeah i’m not buying that either. if they were mostly all horrible, they wouldn’t be the most desirable guitar in the world 70 years later.
sure there were variances in tolerances… but most Les Paul players aren’t super-strat guys with 9-42 string expecting a low action. they’re the best sounding guitars ever made and it takes a good player to properly weild one. wax potting kills clarity. which is why the cleans on those old guitars are sublime
People think the 50's and 60's guitars are 'magical' because of this lack of consistency. "They all sound unique".
I tried to explain this to a friend. I played in 70s played 60s strats Les Paul’s. But as soon as prs came out. It was so great to play a consistent. Playing guitar.
The best guitars ever are being made NOW.
true.i'm amazed of the quality you get for little money.
Best for what, shradding? Maybe... Not every old guitar is a good one but today's guitars do not come even close to a good example of vintage Gibson or fender.
@@SAGABIJO2in what way? Genuinely curious as to what makes a vintage strat/ les Paul better than new ones?
@@Anonacc54 I will not get into the old argument of wood and pickups but tonewise it's a different world. If you talk about maple Strat for Ex. You will never get that sparkle bell like, twangy, glassy, sweet, full of character and dynamic tone as you will get in a good example vintage one.
@@SAGABIJO2 I have to agree, and this is coming from a person who owns Ibanez, Charvel, PRS, and even Strandberg. But it's extremely inspiring to play an old Gibson or Fender. Probably a combination of the abundance (at the time) of quality old growth wood and the natural broken in feel that nitrocellulose provides.
I will say that the modern guitar brands are easier to play and probably more versatile because of their design (compound radius, pickup combinations, etc.). But their tone and "feel" is lacking. You never really hear anyone go "I need that RG550 or PRS sound". It's always "I need that les paul/strat/Tele tone"
most of the guys I know that play vintage guitars dont like playing Ibanez and the like. So the reverse opinion he has, makes sense.
Quality control was a concept in those days. Very few made the cut. They're made so much better now than ever.
They are much more consistent than they used to be, but IME the best old ones are better than the best new ones.
Joe is spot on here. I owned several vintage guitars in the 80’s and I regarded them as nothing more than used guitars. Back then they weren’t particularly expensive like they are now. Most of the 60’s Gibson and Fenders I bought for less than $500.
Good luck finding one for that now.
Wow! I bought this guitar from Joe a long time ago. I was taking lessons from him at that vintage guitar shop. I still have it and still play it
Sure you did 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jimroberts62 I actually being serious, but you don't have to believe me. I have the guitar he is talking about. I bought it from him about 40 years ago when I was in college.
I can corroborate that. In fact, I was at a summer jam session/party at Roger's house, and he asked me to play, but for some reason I just wanted to listen that day and didn't bring my guitar. So I asked him to set me up with with a shred machine and he handed me THE guitar in question, said he bought it from Joe, plugged into a Roland MicroCube on Rfier patch --> lineout to the PA. I played some shred originals and Black Leather Monster (Plasmatics) on that very guitar !!! It was love at first pickup ! That instrument is/was capable of doing everything I wanted it to do and literally felt perfect from the first few notes. It is one baddazz guitar. And unlike Joe's roasting of foreign collectors, it's now owned by someone who can, and does, actually play it, and he plays it well.
@@jimroberts62I can also vouch for Roger's claim on that guitar. We play together in a group. I've seen it and played it
magnetic pickups picking up ambience “around the string”. you heard it here first boys
Huge respect for this man 👍🏻
If Joe rides a bicycle with a basket on the front of it will it fly?😳
Only if Steve Vai is in the basket😅
He's a surfer not a cyclist...
I agree, vintage is usually a byword for 'not as good as'. Never understood the obsession with ancient guitar
Good point! 🧐👍🎸 Who ever first starting branding “vintage” guitars as superior instruments must have been a marketing genius 😜👍🎸
Do you actually own any?
@@petarticinovic2710 Yeh 57 Goldtop and a pre CBS strat
By 1975, a 59' Les Paul was out of reach for me. I was born in 1981.
My first guitar was a '54 Stratocaster that went out the back of my brother's '61 Ford station wagon in July 1965. I mourned for years. Serial no. 0517, with a Jazzmaster neck because the original was worn out.
OMG!! No joke, my hands were sweaty after reading this🤯 That’s terrible, sorry to hear that happened!
I would much rather have a chromeboy than any gibson anything
My cousin Roger has the guitar he's talking about. Roger was his student. It looks really nice now! Put the "original" sunburst look back on it... The number on the neck plate is 6630
I've only ever played a handful of Vintage guitars and I can agree, they're absurd to play most of the time. There's a reason they're in a shop, because the good ones the collectors KEEP!
Very interesting 👌
Pretty sure I saw a 50s or maybe a 60s strat on norms channel that was refinished in a green “avacado” burst!
Maybe he meant antigua burst? I had one of those, but if I recall correctly they were from the 70s
also, keep in mind that if you love a ‘50/60s guitar because of the tone they had in a 50/60s music, it also means that when the song was played/recorded, it was a brand new guitar out of the production line… nothing particular, nothing aged. So you get the exact same result with a brand new guitar today… actually even better since we did a lot of researches to figure out the great settings we like the most…
The mudbucker in my '70 gibson bass still meters out at 27.8k lol
Some get it some don’t. I agree, my best plying guitar is a modern $800 guitar. Modern tech has it worked out. But the fun guitar, the one everyone wants to hold, is my 67 Gibson. There is more than one dimension to this topic
That’s a great point! 👍🎸🔥
@@MastersofShred thank you sir
Finally Jo says the truth - But companies do all they can to push that glow to us - as said in the comment - the best guitars are made now - you can pickup most guitars around a few hundred dollars and you go a very capable guitar now. Cheers.
great video, I wanted to say we had a left handed 68 jazzmaster that dad played lefty strung righty(because that is how he learned in the 50s), he destroyed the nut on the guitar... According to him the guitar played in tune fine even with the strings being backwards digging into the nut for 40 years lol
Just the dig at cork sniffer Bonamassa is worth a 👍
Maybe if a vintage guitar has a story behind it, like Jared James Nichols' "Dorothy". It was in a tornado. That's what makes vintage cool.
The 0.01 of vintage guitars have stories like those ... the rest are closet/barn/under the bed corpses
This kinda makes me wanna try out a Satch Ibanez signature.
Right?! lol I was questioning doing the same thing after the interview!
I put Emg pickups in my Joe, sorry Satch ,but I still have Fred in a box .
@richardworks481 try the mo'joe or anything but a emg.
Dunno about Joe's but Vai's is very nice.
Actually, that green burst turd 54 Strat sounds like a weird one that Bonamassa might actually go for
It's been refinished to the original look. My cousin is the guy who bought it from Satch. Still has it and plays it...well!
The worst guitar i ever owned was a 1975 LP, sounded like mud, after many years I couldn’t stand it anymore, I sold it and bought a PRS, SC with 58/15 pick ups, it sounds good and plays great.
No kidding?! And to think, 70s Les Pauls are starting to become desirable and respected. It makes you question the sacred 50s models and the craze around them 🧐👍🎸
Vintage stuff is overrated... collectible, yes... but overrated rated for quality.
i have a 1934 L7 that disagrees. no low quality instrument lasts that long.
@@rodanone4895 today's stuff is just as good, just not collectible.
@@rodanone4895 I don't think you know what over rated means.
hy i am a french guitar player ( not pro) and strats collector, your poin tof view is clever lt telle you why, i have owned around 200 strats in my 45 years of playing strats and among them 10 vintage original strats all from 63 to 64 strats and i lyed many others from friends. I can telle you they are the best sounding strats ( some exeption altogh witn a very few bad vintage strats) with no doubt even the masterbuilt strat cannot compete . but if you pay 50 K for an original 63 fiesta red strat end 5 k for the masterbuiults strat for example the vintage strat is 10 times more expensive but here the point it doesn't mean that it sounds 10 time better but maybe be 10 or 20 % better wich is not the same. So why do we have to pay 10 times more for a strat that is only 10 or 20 % better this why what your re saying is good, prices are not proportionnal to tha sounding of the guitar and so prices are overated. Anyway everytime i bought a vintage strat a high price compared with news guitars prices i did not have an hesitation because and this is the second point, they are the best you can find so the next step is just how many money you have in your bank account, if you have a lot of money spending 20 k on a guitar is not a problem knowing that i never lost money when i sold one of these vintage strats So in terms of ratio quality to price they are overated, in terms of quality of the sound they are the best, i guess e can expain the prices with spéculation, it s like a financial deal for some people who even do not play the guitar. so you re perfectly right i knew that every time i bought a vintage guitar and i never had regrets to buy one of them and pay the price for that best regards from france
@@oggythebug yup... I didn't say vintage is bad, I said it was over rated. Also keep in mind, none of that old stuff is shielded so if you play with distortion, it will probably be noisier.
Doesn't Joey B own a green burst Strat ? 😅
Yup his main tour strat
Those screens have the "acabado" rust
Weak single coils will ‘bloom’. 🤘🏼
It doesn't just have to be single coils, generally speaking I hate single coils, you can get magical Buckers to do the same thing, and the key is like Joe said, the lower output. Also, just lowering your pickups achieves the similar effect if you've got like a modern guitar.
I didn't learn this until recently, I took my Les Paul to get repaired and a partial refret and I also thought I had a nut issues because my Low E just wouldn't hold tuning and the guy was like, "honestly I don't hear a tuning warble but I hear a volume one, and this neck pickup here is super high, let's drop that down" and he did and that's all it was. I felt like such a moron lol, but I was glad he didn't just take my word for it and replace a nut that didn't need it.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 I'm beginning to wonder if the pickups in my PRS are too hot. They're about as low into the cavity as they can go. I put a graphtech nut and prs locking tuners on and the damn thing still goes out.
@@finishin.my.coffee8780 It’s possible but PRS are quality instruments if they’re all the way down, they really shouldn’t be pulling too hard What’s your bridge/saddle situation like? That’s the first thing I’d check. Also, this is fairly obvious but worth saying, you’re giving your strings adequate time to stretch, right?
@@djjazzyjeff1232 It's an SE Custom 24. I had it set up about a month and a half ago. Yeah, the strings have been stretched adequately. It's weird, yesterday I played it for about an hour and I didn't notice any tuning issues.
@@finishin.my.coffee8780 Lol! That sounds about right when you're troubleshooting something you can't get it to act up. It must've heard you talking about it 😂
Edit: Also, is the one with the Trem arm? If so that's a whole different can of worms than a hardtail guitar.
Joe! If you put humbuckers in a Strat, you no longer have a Strat - you’ve got a Strat-shaped piece of wood, though.
What’s the song of the intro from Joe Satriani?
Ice 9
He's right....
I only ever got on with a 53 Goldttop Les Paul, none else nor 355's. Gretsch or Stratocaster for me. Or Tokai.
I bought a Tokai love rocks a good few years back from a collector, it's the nicest guitar I've ever played.
Lower your pickups, kids. Wind them RIGHT on down, that lower output will allow the guitar to work better just like Joe said, even a cheap one, hell ESPECIALLY a cheap one!
When I finally did some serious shopping in a vintage guitar shop, it was a real disappointment. I could appreciate the history of those pieces, but the sound and playability were typically subpar. When shopping for guitar, try everything you can get your hands and ears on, and keep an open mind.
Most vintage guitars need a refret and a setup. Collectors don't want to mess with them, so they keep playing poorly.
Camera person needs to switch to decaf! The camera is darting and bouncing around so much, you’d think they were trying to defeat the image stabilization ‼️
I had the privilege to play a 58 Flying V. I absolutely hated it. So much so that I didn’t plug it in. So I trust his opinion.
Why? I'm a big fan and my Epiphone 58 V is one of the best playing guitars I ever tried. What didn't you like?
I don't feel so odd now lol. I sold my Gibson Les Paul, I just prefer shredder type guitars from the 90's to current.
No.
I like both :)
Satch sounds like Satch, wich brand is not important!
I never got the whole mystique of the ‘59 Les Paul bursts. It always felt to me like it was just one of those urban legends that somehow got accepted as gospel and increased as the years go by. Sometimes a guitar is just a guitar. There isn’t some magical tree that makes the sweetest tones known to man as we all know that it’s a combination of many different factors. Plus, the whole elitist attitude of vintage guitars never appealed to me because of the financial limitations. I myself play PRS guitars but it’s not like I’m rolling in dough. It took me a long time to be able to afford them and most of them are SE models but they are what I love to play and everything about them fits my playing style. In fact, the only Les Paul I would consider Holy Grail are the 1979 Custom Silverbursts and that’s only because they look cool but since I’d have to sell my left nut on the black market to afford one, that’s likely never going to happen in my lifetime.
You have to play them to be able to weigh in, I think. And hey, I haven't had the privilege either, so... 🤷♂️
I have a 1968 and a 1969 Les Paul that are absolutely outstanding. I am 61 now and have been playing since I was 13. I have played all kinds of guitars and I can tell you that the old stuff is great. A lot of the newer stuff is also. But nothing beats that old wood.
@@donsaxon1169 I disagree that it's the wood, it's that old electronics that is lower output, like Joe said, that is the magical part. I've noticed that truly great guitar sounds, if you look at the pickups they're usually very low, far from the strings. That's a modern way to 'cheat' and reduce the output to open up the sound, it works and it makes a huge difference.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 I've been playing 48 years now. My 59 Les Paul jr sounds best with the P90 up very close to the strings. (A very well known fact of P90s) My H.B. equipped Les Paul's sound best with them down low. AND I've never heard a solid body guitar that sounds as good acoustically as my 68 les paul does. I've owned somewhere north of 30 Les Pauls in my life.I agree the old electronics are part of the old Gibby sound, but the wood makes a huge difference imho and 48 years of experience.
@@donsaxon1169 Acoustic resonance will 100% affect the plugged-in resonance, and I have heard that older guitars DO resonate better, but I've also heard that's because of the thinner and much older lacquer doesn't "weigh" it down and kill it, (similar to Diecast vs Triple-Flange drum hoops) It doesn't have sht to do with whether it's Mahogany or what. That's my opinion on the matter anyway. As far as P90s go though no I didn't know that about them, but it makes sense and they're much lower output (which means weaker magnets) so they don't yank as hard on the strings.
Funny. In the 70s I played a lot 70s strats some 50s. Didn’t like any of them
Just the 59s or ALL of them?
I bought the 54 strat he's talking about. Still have it. It is exactly as he describes it. He used to play it at lessons. When he decided to sell it, I bought it fom him.
Like classic cars some are very cool but new just outperform outta tune wallhangers, if ur wallet thick go for it nice to have but worth it unless there's good history memories
Satriani is a shredder. Enough said.😅
I like Satriani but it took him years to start recording albums with good guitar tones. It’s ironic that the most commercially successful guitar album in the last 40 years has terrible guitar tones.
they're all wire and wood!
It’s totally personal.
Is not when you find problems that other guitars doesnt have... like tunning issues ,horrible upper frett access, lack of comfyness, over Weighted ...
He,s right.I don,t get vintage hype.
_Joe Boomermasa has entered the chat_
Why, so he could biuy it and hide it away? He's the worst.
@@popsferealyou wont be buying any vintage piece 😂😂😂😂 why are you crying like a baby ?
Low power pickups sound far better than boutique high output pups ask Cooder & 100s of greats
Let’s be rational. A vintage from the 50’s - 70’s are…..old. If frets, tuners, neck, wiring, etc haven’t been replaced, how nice will it be to play? Playability. Yeah it may have hot original pickups but if it’s not playable or too difficult to, it’s useless. So in addition to the thousands of $ you have to dish out, you’ll have to spend more to restore it to a playable level.
We know that many vintage buyers don’t even actually play them.
Sure you may find the rare one that’s in mint condition but f 0:02 at chance on really finding one.
If it feels good, sounds good to you that’s all that maters x regardless of price, name value, or vintage.
Amber not Orange!!!!
Eh whatever, you say tomato I say potato.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 actually no, it’s Amber.
@@Sol7Studios Perhaps, but that's not funny.
Read what you wrote.
@@Sol7Studios I did, that is the joke.
Bonamassa is a very good musician, but his music doesn't mean anything to me.
He has a good handle on decent vintage instruments and amps and although he has never really been My thing Music wise over time ive opened My eyes to both his playing and handle on tone - he has huge Skill . Now saying this new guitars now are more than amazing
Why subtitles, he is easy to understand.
Deaf ( or hearing impediment ) people exist.
People who cant turn up the volume in different scenarios too...
World isnt the lil bubble you live in ... sucker.
Good
Is that a hat or a bandage?
It’s neither, it’s a beanie 😜👍💯
Get a tripod. The camera moving nonstop is effing annoying.
Great, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 eu gostaria d e ver a cara dos mimizentos que não aguentam opinião contrária.
Is he talking about antigua, perhaps...?? 🤔
What an incredibly stupid comment about vintage guitars. Of course not all of them are great but his opinion is based on the type of music he plays which isn't suited for older guitars. I can tell you this though. In the early 90s i saw Eric Johnson open up for Satriani and Eric destroyed Joe on his 54 strat. Satriani was so boring i walked out halfway thru the show.
10/10 for trying, Joe…. very trying.
My experience with 50s and early 60s Strats and Les Paul’s, is that in general they are great! A few duds , and some sound better than others, however ever generally they great guitar s……I feel they did the best they could with the tools they had…………
Maybe Joe S is not the best guy to evaluate guitars , of which he does not like the style or design……just my .02
Edit…I do feel Joe plays the best guitar possible for his playing style……
This lost me when Satriani started taking shots at Joe Bonamassa for absolutely no reason. If he knew anything about Joe Bonamassa he would know he doesn't buy "perfect" pieces, he buys stories and history. A lot of the guitars he tours with have been rerouted or modified in some way in the past. Plenty of videos on TH-cam where Joe talks about the instruments and the stories behind them.
Satriani indeed seems to be clueless about Joe's approach to vintage gear.
...it was a joke
I’m a big fan of Joe B and I took the statement as a joke.
When your satriani you can make a joke
It was a joke, jeez. Joe and Joe are 2 classy dudes. When he says Joe Banamasa wouldn't buy it was probably correct. Once you hear about the paint scheme.
Joe Bonermassa is a guitar hoarder.... Vintage guitars are for "collectors" not players.
Who cares what Joe Bonnabozo thinks?
He put Joe Bonamassa in air quotes😂
I didnt think he even played anyrhing other than that ugly Ibanez
Joe B is a joke
He's like a "59 les paul"....cool because somebody started saying it. But really, just average.
"Most of them are horribel", In YOUR opinion Joe. Personaly in MY opinion I think your MUSIC is HORRIBLE.
He had hands on
Have you?
@@CD-gk9ix I made a comment didn't I? The Guitar is a very personal intrument. For ANYONE to say something IS or ISN'T good in general is just Ignorant. Joe should know this, but perhaps all that 80's coke has killed a few brain cells.
@@Bluedragon003 two things can be true
Satriani can make music only guitar guys care about and he can have an informed opinion on instruments he held back in the day.
I don’t care for his music, but he’s right. What was QC/QA like 30, 40, 50+ years ago? Not what is it today.
For every great 50s LP or Fender, there’s at least another one or two that’s subpar.
Great Aunt Sally or Great Uncle Jim was making guitars, long hours, probably hot in there with little AC, hardly a break or two, without the aid of modern tech.. they were eyeballing stuff and using supermarket scales.
So, yeah, a bunch of duds slipped through.
You have an opinion.
I don’t think it’s an informed one.
@@CD-gk9ix Good or bad is subjective to the individual, I HATE PRS's because of there stupid neck profiles....I HATE that I don't love them but thats the way it is. THAT is the point on which Satriani is a babbaling idiot (the subjectivity) I AM a Guitar guy that's the other reason he's an ass, he should know this. Then again it may be a form of gatekeeping....."yea they all suck so don't buy them." 😆🤣😂 I bet Satriani is a pickup guy as well. (Pickup guy bein the one who says the wood doesn't matter).
Where's your music? Link it.
Who the f is Satriani ?
Wow, rockhead is right. 😂😂
Not an average pathetic john doe like you 😂😂😂
One Joe is a genius innovator. One Joe is a poseur.
We'll say "A" is JS, and "B" is joe.....b.
Satriani wouldn't know tone if he tripped over it
You are a star though, right?