Is It a Sin to Drink Beer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2014
- Episode #161
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I reached my 1 year of sobriety on the the 8th Thank You Jesus!!!
Praise the Lord. God bless you sisters in Christ see in glory land one day.
Yaheeeeee! Thank you Lord!
I think Paul was right in saying that partaking in something that causes a brother to stumble is a sin.
This could not mean drinking alcohol because scripture tells us that Jesus drank wine and that He turned water into wine.
Jesus turned water into wine, and drank wine at the Last Supper. Jesus cannot sin, as you rightly say. So therefore drinking alcoholic beverages is not sinful.
Drinking to excess is certainly sinful (doing anything to excess is sinful), and if anyone would choose not to drink because they plain just don't want to, that certainly is okay.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh True. But if a brother has had a problem with it it's best not to put temptation in his way. Same as anything else. Of course the water hasn't always been healthy to drink so people drank beer and wine. And people in different cultures drink with their dinner. Also medicinal benefits. We just need to ask God for wisdom in each situation.
Exactly ! 50% of accidents, murders etc. involve alcohol. Jesus certainly would not condone its use. We are to be a witness to what is good and pure.
@@iblameabel So if the type of adultery one commits is a little less potent would that make it OK? Much easier to see it in a different context. Jesus said even bad thoughts are a sin, let alone the action. Our churches have adopted false theologies on many subjects so as not to offend itching ears - Jesus never compromised truth to make others 'comfortable'; because that would increase their chance of being lost. Its truth, ...the following thereof, that sets us free. Not that I've arrived by any means, but I won't deceive myself about scripture to make myself feel better. God Bless
Ray this morning I had a JW at my door and I stuck to the scripture as you had taught us all to do...Thanks
I enjoyed this! I was a drunkard before Christ and the day I submitted my life to Christ and was baptized with The Holy Spirit out on my farm by myself, God radically supernaturally set me free from my addiction of alcohol. (I was an alcoholic since I was 14 years old and been to rehabs, AA and 30 day dry outs as an adult wanting to quit but finding I was never able to on my own) nothing set me free from that spirit of addiction other than Jesus Christ that day! Along with many other things I was set free from and continue to be set free from more things as I’m being sanctified daily in my walk with Christ and seeking Him... but my conviction with alcohol personally is that if God set me free from alcohol, it’s not something I believe I as a Christian should partake in. He set me free from it bc it is sin and not of Him and interfered with making Him first in my life and being a fruitful witness for Him and 1Corinthians 6:9-10 also says a drunkard WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of Heaven. There’s another biblical answer. If we want to go to Heaven we can’t be a drunkard.
Having a drink and being a drunk are two different things. Because a glass of wine is not the same as a 5th of vodka it matters about moderation
Can i ask how did u baptize your self don't u need a priest or a preacher or someone from the church to do it isn't there prayers to be said while doing? Never been. Baptized but i have prayed to God and that i will walk in his ways that i believe that his son died on cross for our sins
No once your born again you will feel the weight of sin in general and it will be easier to notice crazy thing is once u see sin every where u start to worry for everyone's souls because u don't want anyone to go to hell u don't want them to stumble and u will be letting everyone know the good word because again we don't want anyone in hell
@@korn5308 You don't need baptism to get to Heaven. "You must be born again."(John 3) The baptism itself is just water.
@@timothytierney7241 you just unironically required a work for salvation. It is a spiritual baptism not a physical one. Take a good look at the thief on the cross and all of the Old Testament believers that were not physically baptized in water and were still saved.
I'm Irish and finding this tough, I want to quit alcohol for good however, all my family and friends drink and every social situation usually involves a pub , I think I need some Christian friends lol
Amen, brother. Put an ad on Craigslist. That's what I did.
Go find friends at church or Christian camps
JESUS is there with you even if u cant se HIM physically. Just think of the choices you make in front of THE THRONE OF GOD. Would HE want you drunk? Can you be a testimony of HIS renewing of HIS SPIRIT IN YOU by u compromising?
I believe there are Christians that work for that Stout company. And you have to look at it from their culture. It is common to fellowship with a glass of beer as Christians there. They were actually doing service in trying to Revive a Christian Pastime that is fading away in England because Christianity is fading away. Find some Christians at fellowship with a glass of beer
Try fasting over your sin have hunger for jesus and he will give u good desires and take your want to sin away
Its only a sin if 1. you get drunk 2. you a dependent on it 3. you cause another brother to stumble. Other than that, having a beer, or any drink is not a sin. Not biblically anyway
What's the reason to drink besides to get drunk?
@@danielquizon4654 you don't have to drink to get drunk....
We all know that no drunkards will enter the kingdom of God. Now the question is, why do I want to be so close to eternal damnation.
Also, do I want to teach my children to drink alcohol by seeing my example putting them very close to being shutt out of the kingdom if they are weaker brothers and might become drunkards?
Maybe you think you can keep control, how many weak brethren has become drunkards by youre example.
Lastly how many souls has been lost by not trying to get drunk and sadly ended up drunkards.
Does the Holy Spirit lead you to go drink alcohol when your troubled or does scriptire say, cast all youre cares upon him.
Rather stay away and get filled with the Spirit of God.
We all know that no drunkards will enter the kingdom of God. Now the question is, why do I want to be so close to eternal damnation by making a decision out of my own not to get drunk.
Also, do I want to teach my children to drink alcohol by seeing my example putting them very close to being shutt out of the kingdom if they are weaker breathers?
Maybe you think you can keep control, how many weak brethren has become drunkards by youre example.
Lastly how many souls has been lost by not trying to get drunk and sadly ended up drunkards.
Does the Holy Spirit lead you to go drink alcohol when your troubled or does scriptire say, cast all youre cares upon him.
Rather stay away and get filled with the Spirit of God.
@@farida7777777 yes if people knew how the Holy Spirit worked they wouldn’t be saying these things
I love listening to Christian songs for the broken hearted and crushed in spirit. They heal my soul. But God Is the Healer.
Amen, me too. Worship is powerful; it draws you near to God and as it draws you into His Presence it brings deliverance and healing to your soul there. People have been physically healed while in worship, And it also strengthens and builds up your spirit man and empowers you to walk with God in obedience. It will do all that when you sincerely worship because the more you do it the more Holy Spirit filled you will be. "Wherefore be not unwise, but understanding what the WILL of the Lord is. And be NOT DRUNK with wine, wherein is excess; BUT be FILLED with the Spirit (how?);
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, SINGING and making melody in your heart to the Lord; "
I was raised in a Pentecostal home, taught total abstinence from alcohol. I realize others were not brought up with such a strict standard. But as for me, I have abstained for 50 years, and will continue the rest of my days. As far as Jesus turning the water into wine, when the King sets it before me, I will drink!
Kevin Evans
Jesus couldn’t have turned that water into ‘alcoholic’ wine, because Jesus cannot sin.
Let me explain...
In versions including the NASB KJV and NLT, John 2:10 basically states that the men have had a lot to drink:
NASB: “...Every man serves the good wine first, and when the people have drunk freely...”
KJV: “...Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk...”
NLT: “...Then, when everyone has had a lot to drink, he brings out the less expensive wine...”
If the people at the wedding had enough to drink already, Jesus therefore could not serve them any more “good” wine or stronger wine, it goes against scripture saying “Do not get drunk” and “no drunkard will inherit the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus couldn’t have served alcohol at The wedding
that sounds good to me, I was just using the illustration to say that’s the only way I will ever drink
@@jesusislord229 That is nonsense. You are misinterpreting scripture to suit your own ego.
JESUS is LORD so how about finishing off by saying what did Jesus serve 🤷🏻♂️, my guess is, you have no idea.....
JESUS is LORD lol that’s not Jesus’s fault that they’d get drunk, plus he was just doing what his Mom asked him to do. What do you think that’d be if he didn’t listen to her?
I have really enjoyed this conversation. I like an occasional beer or glass of wine and do not feel guilty about it because I have no desire to get drunk. Everything in moderation. I agree with asking others if it offends them and if so, don't do it! Thanks for the discussion.
What's the point of drinking besides to get drunk?
@L Cam drinking just one glass affects u, even if u don’t feel it.
@@danielquizon4654 what's the point of eating carbs as you only get fat? Jesus drank wine , Jesus did not get drunk. Paul tells Timothy to take a bit of wine for his stomach problems , he did not say get drunk. Why do so many believers extrapolate having a glass of wine at a meal with being stupid and drinking to excess? Coffee is a simulant as well.
@@danielquizon4654 Yes, just like drinking coffee affects me and eating food gives me calories. If I drink coffee to the point that I'm addicted and jittery and can't function without it, I've sinned. If I eat food to the point that I am overweight and lazy, I've sinned. If I drink wine or beer to the point that I am incapacitated or drunk, I have sinned. Yet, none of these things is a sin on its own.
I drink very rarely - the occasional glass of wine when out, the occasional beer. Probably less than 5 times a year. I do enjoy it at those times, but it's not a huge draw for me. I've never been tempted to drink to drunkenness, and I'm also aware I'm fairly sensitive, and I've had no problem limiting myself to one glass on the rare occasion I drink.
If you are someone who has a more sensitive conscience about this issue, you are absolutely correct to abstain. The Holy Spirit may be prompting you to avoid it, and unless you can do it with a clear conscience, it would be sin for you to have it - if my understanding of Scripture is correct.
I'm not trying to convince you to have alcohol, but am sharing the difference between an object that can be used to sin and sin itself. This is an important distinction as many people use food to sin, yet we all know food is a good gift from God. I believe at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, we will be blessed with good food and good drink, yet our physical frailties and sin natures will be removed, so we will enjoy God's good gifts the way He meant them to be enjoyed.
It is the moderate drinker that tells the non-drinker to take a sip.
On my way to work just this morning (May 21, 2019), I heard a prayer request on the radio regarding a lady whose husband is caught up in drinking alcohol to excess but also loved his wife. He had decided he wanted alcohol much more than his wife and marriage and they are in divorce proceedings. It just rends my heart. I so appreciate your integrity in preaching the Word of God without compromise. Thank you and God bless you and the Living Waters ministry.
Remember
There are two sides to every story
"Do not be drunk with wine" and "do not be a stumbling block to your brother" come to mind. The issue is that one drink leads to another...and frequently, this state of mind leads to other forms of depravity. I've lived like this for many years and now I'm done. Ray, you're right...the things that brought comfort did not bring JOY. Thank you!
I shared the Gospel and brought a dear friend (former Mormon) to Christ over a glass of scotch and a firepit. He never would have sat down with me and had the conversation with me otherwise. God is good...ALL THE TIME!
Brother, he would. Because our God is God of all circumtances. He touch the lan's heart in His own way
Drinking alcohol is a bad example, especially for those who struggle with addiction or trying to be set free. Who knows, you might be giving somebody a license to think it's okay to drink.
I grew up in an alcoholic home and watched its subtle trap in many lives who never set out to be alcoholic, but just drifted into needing more and more... that is the nature of that beast.
I say refrain completely.
Can you pray when you're tipsy?
Can you drive when you're tipsy?
Can you share the gospel when you're tipsy?
No
I don't care what they say, God told me to stop drinking and Helped me hit a year of sobriety on the 8th of this month. It was destroying my life and taking away my heart from the Lord Jesus. It was very evil. A little over year and a half sober for drugs as well. Thank you Jesus!!!
I spoke Jesus alot when I drank because my tolerance became so high I could drink a liter of vodka and still be able to walk straight. I would drink and get high,but the Lord was still calling me back Home and was often heavily on my conscience. I needed Him intervene the way He chose to was unexpected and most certainly put His fear into me.
@@lucidarose613 God saved me from a mushroom bad trip that was lasting what seemed like an eternity. He gave me such perfect peace and I realized that moment that he was the absolute and nothing else mattered
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n Most do not understand doing drugs is entering the spiritual realm illegally. Thank you Jesus for protecting us from our own very bad decisions as we are very easily decieved by satan in our ignorance. I'm so grateful God didn't let you go, I can only imagine the torment if your experience. I have had quite a few very bad experiences myself attacked by devils. I pray the Holy Spirit keeps you always.
This is because you americans can t drink a beer. I m from germany and we learn to be responsible with alcohol. You drink one then 5 then 10.
I am 7 yrs late to this discussion but I could use some prayers to help me kick alcohol. AA didn't work for me. God bless you all.
Praise God I will lift up prayers for you. The Lord will help you because you are asking for the help. He is a one step process just trust in His power to deliver you and ask Him to take away the desire to drink and to fill you with His Holy Spirit. Also help yourself by staying away from places and people that will tempt you and don't let anyone tell you you're crazy because following God takes more guts than following the crowd. Be encouraged. 🙏🙏
May the Lord Jesus bless your body with vitamins and minerals and heal and free you from this addiction.
I dont drink. But I always go back to what the bible said. Drunkenness is the sin.
But don't drink with some one who has a problem and can fall into sin.
I just spent a half an hour reading these comments, and was led by the holy spirit to this thought......Every person has their own "opinion", or "feeling" about not only this topic, but also many other topics. We tend to "write" our own religion, based on what we want to believe, or what our opinion is. We want to be comfortable. We do not want to be inconvenienced by scripture. We cannot base our walk with Christ on what makes us feel good, or what is convenient in our lifestyle for us to believe. We MUST go to scripture on EVERY topic in life, and model our life after Christ. The Word says, everything we eat, drink, or do, should be done to the Glory of God. And anything in life that does not glorify God, should be cut out of our walk. Everything in our life, after we have been made whole, (by the shed blood of Jesus Christ) should line up with the word of God! I hope this helps someone who reads it, and may all Glory be to God. Blessings and Hope to all.
I love the humor you guys share!!! It's so refreshing to laugh at positive, clean humor! Blessings!
The hymn is "leaning on the everlasting arms" a beautiful hymn!
I definitely believe that the over indulging of alcohol is sin. My father was an alcoholic and my child sucked because of it. I didn't have much guidance. So, I grew in ignorance with total freedom. Freedom and ignorance are a bad combination. Because whether or not you know the consquences of your actions you still going to reap what you sow. Like coming accross a snake you don't know is poisonous. When it bites you will still die. Now, I drink on occasion. Keep mind how ever I have thorns in my flesh and am in a lot of pain. But, even if i wasn't I woukd still have a few with a good meal. Nothing like it after a hard day of work. Especially along side the joy of Lord filling your heart. Ooooooo it is so Good then I say thanks and praise God.
Thanks! Holy Father I give my body in surrender to you! I believe alcohol for me opens doors to the Evil one's demons. I need to stop. Thanks for this I needed this! Especially the In faith talk and doing a habit! God bless!
The way I see it is we have to rot our life-giving foodstuff through fermentation to inebriate our God-given faculties. It is of the devil.
I quit vaping because it dishonors The Father and this body with which He has graced me. I quit pot because it is an idol. I quit drinking (mostly) but am resolute as of today not to have another drop. I read The Word daily. I pray. I cry. I commune with God and ask that His Will be done through me and in my life. I struggle with lust and keep my head down and I tithe now for the first time and without only doing 10%. I listen to God to tell me what is right and good in my heart.
God has been guiding me for the past three weeks and coming across your post I felt compelled to share.
Read with intent. Pray with your heart. Cry with your soul. Talk to God in your nakedness, for He knows all your iniquities. And listen to good Christian music instead of the crud on radio.
May God bless you and guide you on this path.
Praying for you KM.
You guys are great! I really appreciate what you’re doing on here. You guys have helped me to convict myself and see what is wrong and false in my life. I mean this from the bottom of my heart, thank you! I’m presently in a place in my walk with GOD where I’m being (finally) honest with myself and not making excuses. The journey has truly just begun. Please pray for me and my family.
Hope your walk along with Christ is going on smooth now (after a year) strong and edifying yourself and others along the way. Praying for you and your family!
tune2john Amen and amen! May God bless you and your loved ones as well!
@@jcgaliano4126 Thanks, God bless you and yours too!
I saw that commercial. It was revolting, personally. Thanks for pointing it out.
this was an eye opener for me.thank you for all
Drinking beer isn't a sin, getting drunk is.
What defines a drunkard is the real question.
Bruh it prob tastes as bad as it smells yuck 🤢 the smell of alcohol 🍺 is strong
@@ByronRadstyle Losing control vs feeling lose with a couple of drinks.
Drinking is sin
drunkeness is sin
smoking is sin
@@pililani_blessings drinking is not a sin. Nowhere in the bible does it say drinking is bad. But! If you struggle with alcohol, which leads to drunkenness, then yes it is bad. The bible does not condemn drinking alcohol.
Smoking yes would be considered a sin, I'll agree with that. The sixth commandment states thou shalt not kill. Smoking not only endangers your life but others around you.
I found it very comical to see how you used humor to share the good news and gospel. I think it's incredibly important to have a good sense of humor. GOD bless you guys.
Hello guys I'm from down under. You are doing a great job spreading the gospel.....
Yeah these guys are tight with what they teach, love the approach eapecially how they address peoples intellect and then their conscience.
Im having a beer right now at home in Perth WA after nightshift.
Just wish I knew how i can get a hold of the evidence bible as all sold out at Kooring Australia .
Great balance.... glad you could have fun with a tough subject. Thanks for all you do.
Love you guys, something I've been under the gun on and questioned myself, knowing it's wrong to get drunk and at the same time sometimes drinking pushes the envelope as it muddies the coherency of how much is too much.
I love y'alls humor. I also love beer and wine. I know that I have to keep the drinking to an amount that doesn't reach drunkenness. This is a great conversation to have! I do have to tell Ray however that a small amount of unpasteurized, raw fermented beer has good enzymes for the body, more healthful than a chocolate shake using pasteurized milk and sugar. 😉. I'm not saying to drink it for health reasons though. I admire and respect people who don't drink at all and would never drink in front of someone if it made them stumble. Good discussion!
Another interesting fact about alcohol is that throughout the history of mankind, drinking beer was safer the drinking water. In fact in medieval times in Europe, even children drank beer, because the water could make you deathly ill. The alcohol content was likely lower than today's brews.
(besides other vitamins/minerals) natural beer also had folic acid, essential to fetal development, pregnant women had their beer ration so that their babies would be healthy
"You can't get drunk if you don't drink alcohol"... true... you also can't get fat if you don't eat. Gluttony is also a sin.
But unlike food, alcohol is not usually required to stay alive. And when you do overeat, it does not affect your spiritual judgement.
I used to use the same argument as you, by the way.
A commenter pointed out a historical fact about people in medieval times regularly drinking beer, but that obviously did not have as high an alcohol content because it would have dehydrated them. That would be the kind of circumstance when alcoholic drinks would be as necessary as food.
The alcoholic wine during Bible days was also much lower in alcohol content. It went up according to how much sugar was added.
It’s not necessarily a sin to drink; it’s that it’s unnecessary and tricky. Tricky = Bad.
I stopped drinking at parties years ago because I wanted to keep my wits about me when talking to people. I represent the Lord Jesus Christ. What is attractive about someone who can’t think and speak correctly anymore? How could I depend on my thoughts and judgment? There’s no need to drink alcohol and there are other drinks there that are very enjoyable. I also never ever had to worry about whether my driving ability has been compromised.
I stopped drinking at frat/sorority parties way before I even became a Christian, and actually had a great time! Watching the other people acting like idiots was entertaining back then. Now it’s just disturbing and I pity them for thinking they need to do it. I’ve even seen an adult miss their flight because of being too hung over to get up on time the morning after! Way worse than gluttony.
After praying about it multiple times, finally my body actually rejected alcohol. Whenever I would drink, then I couldn't sleep because I felt like I had to pee all night, but no pee would come out, or very little. I think the alcohol was messing with my prostate or something. Now I don't want to drink because of this, and actually being sober feels better. I started making some non-alcoholic beverages and carbonating them in my home-brew keg, so I can drink that. I make pine needle tea with fresh sage in it and carbonate it. It is actually very good!
The Lord delivered me from the addiction of alcohol 10 years ago when I believed there was a God, but never knew him, yet. Born again Sept. 24, 2018. The good Lord saved me from death (hell) before I was a true Christian believer. God is GOOD! I never desire alcohol or ever wanted it since that day I quit after drinking over 30 years! Just pray and ask for it. If your heart belongs to God, truly and completely, He will answer! Nothing good comes out of alcohol, ever! Does God care if we get drunk, YES! Paul, the Apostle of Christ said yo keep a sober mind. It’s in the Bible a few places that confirm NO to alcohol? Just get in the word. And, remember... NOTHING is worth your salvation! Just quit! P hallelujah!!!!
God bless...
Amennnn
Amen! Preach the truth. Love the show. Keep growing.
Ray brother when you said joy in Christ it hit me I am the same I find joy in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Isn't Jesus just the greatest thing ever. Thanks for sharing Jesus loves you all and so do I kind people.
The same reason he uses to not drink beer should be the same reason he uses not to drink milkshakes
A milkshake has no redemptive value to the human body. They are very fattening. But very good As is beer to some. But a beer is not nearly as fattening per capita
I'm so glad you said the chief thing here is to walk in love toward others. That's the number one priority not to do anything that could cause someone else to stumble. (Rom.14:15-21) If we have faith to do something we need to keep it between ourselves and God. (Rom. 14:22) Clearly the scriptures forbid drunkenness. (Do not be drunk with wine Eph 5:6, Not in revelry and drunkenness Rom.13:13, Who has woe, sorrow, contentions, complaints, wounds without cause, those who linger long at the wine. Prov. 23:29-30) But it also forbids being somewhere where it may even appear as if you condone drunkenness as in the pub in your opening part to the video. (Matt. 24:49) That being said in Psalms 104:14-15 we are told that that among the list of good things on this earth that God has provided for us, is “wine that gladdens the hearts of men.” In this context it clearly mentions its mood enhancing characteristics. Grape juice has no mood enhancing characteristics. The text is telling us that used properly it is a good gift from God to lift up or “gladden” our hearts. Then in Judges 9:13 we read in the “parable of trees” by Jotham, a comment of how wine cheers both God and men. The parable has nothing at all to do with alcohol of course but the comment makes clear the purpose for which wine was intended. Used in the correct setting it is for cheering one up. In Zechariah 10:7 it describes their hearts being made glad as with wine, and rejoicing in the Lord. These passages are clearly telling us that the effects of alcohol, in the correct context, is to be praised as a gift of God. The effects I’m talking about here are the effects that take place long before one becomes drunken. These effects are to be relished and appreciated from the giver of all good things… . I’m not talking about the effects that come from over indulging. In Psalms 31:6-7 we are instructed that strong drink is to be used to ease the suffering of the sick and sorrowful at heart. To the one who is dying or distressed by poverty. In this sense it is literally to be used as a form of medicine. We see that this was the common practice of the time otherwise God would not have warned Jeremiah (Jer. 16:7-8) to withhold the “cup of consolation” from the people He had removed His peace from. Obviously in proper context alcohol was intended to be a blessing and not a curse. In Deuteronomy 14:26 God was telling the people how He would bless them for tithing, and how they could spend the money they receive from that blessing. Among the list of things God told them was a blessing was, yes wine and similar drink. However some still want to hold on to the notion that the text is only talking about grape juice and not intoxicating wine. Consider then how in Song of Solomon (1:2-3; 4:10; 7:1-2, 9; 8:2) sex with his wife is compared to drinking wine. I’ll spare you here, but let me just say, that I have never had grape juice that good! And of course we all know that Jesus turned the water into wine at the wedding feast. Again I am commonly told that this was only grape juice or “New Wine.” However verses such as Isaiah 49:26, Hosea 4:11, and Judges 9:13 describe “New Wine” as intoxicating. In fact at the great feast we are told we will sit at in heaven, Jesus told us new wine would be served. However Isaiah spoke of this same event (Isaiah 25:6) and described this wine as having been “aged” and well refined.
A funny story, when I first turned my life over to Christ and was baptized I was still battling alcoholism but my battle wasn't about my behavior while drunk. It was just not being able to stop drinking in general lol. I'd get hammered and have that drunk "I love you, man!" talk with God. I don't get weirdly emotional or cry or anything. I just liked to drink a lot and get really amped. But with the healing spirit in me, I just lost the desire to drink constantly. I still every once in a while have my little brews like this weekend while I enjoyed my bible study and research. But it's only occassionally that I drink now. It just feels natural not to drink that often now when before it just felt natural to drink quite often. I'm glad because I always knew it was an unhealthy habit in general but I never felt any desire to stop. I don't really even think about it any more lol.
That's awesome man. I'm still praying for the Lord to get of my alcoholism. I know it's a process but I just want him to get rid of the desire that I have to drink
BruhChickenTho In Psalms 91 towards the ending it talks about the young Lion and the dragon that God has given us authority over. The Young Lion that we trample under our feet is just that.. a sin that we feel will never come to maturity. Young lions grow up. Don’t kid yourself. It’s better to abstain. May God Richly bless you🙏♥️
Regina Stevens Im happy to report that I no longer drink for recreation or habit! If someone offers me a glass of wine or a beer, I’m not gonna be rude; I’ll happily break bread and toast. But I don’t have the need or desire to drink it at home to “relax” or unwind or anything. It doesn’t cross my mind to anymore lol
Grace Ministries 333 Keep trying to quit and keep praying. You’ll get there. Just keep trying. Even if you relapse, keep trying. You’ll get there
@@BruhChickenTho thanks man
I drink beer becuase I like it. I go through about a 6 pack every couple months maybe. Sometimes even longer if it's a rare beer b/c I don't want to drink it up too quick. As if over the course of months is quick. I usually have one while I BBQ. Beer doesn't control my life and in reality as far as a health choice goes, drinking a couple SOFT DRINKS a day, are far worse for your body than a beer. I'm also a God fearing, Jesus loving, saved by Grace, born again Christian. Don't make beer something it's not and it can't control you.
amen
What the heck your profile pic? Deman skull💀
Your comment and your profile pic don't make any sense LOL
Wow, very well put! I wish other Christians could understand what you just wrote. Alcohol, is not a sin, and I say this as one who rarely even drinks a glass of wine. It is man's heart that is sinful, not the beverage... Drinking to excess just reflects the state of one's heart. Pride is by far the worse sin, and those condemning others for a glass of wine, are most often prideful.
God himself didn't have a problem with his people drinking in a joyful manner. The verses quoted by many have the context of drunkenness or excess. It's like saying physical activity is bad because TOIL is a curse and toiling reduces your immunity and breaks your body.
Deut 14:26 🤔
And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for *wine*, or for *strong drink*, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
TWO things kept me from alcohol; watching my mother cry repeatedly when her severely drunken brother would phone her up and scream and insult her on the phone; she shd have just said i will talk to you when youre sober and hung up. but the tables turned when he was on his deathbed screaming her NAME in desperate terror bc he was not a christian and knew that SHE WAS! also a defence lawyer I worked for when I was a young adult told me that bars are full of uncaught criminals, plus the statements of defence I typed out for his clients always started the same way...we were in the bar having drinks when...
I like how they put in the hymnal leaning on the everlasting arms in that commercial.
A lot of hymns came from beer hall tunes way back when. Little Brown Church in the Vale is one.
Ray is right on about alcohol 👍💖 glory to God.
Hey Emeal and the living waters team, you haven’t offend us (at least me) at all. In fact, this is the best explanation I’ve heard on the topic of alcohol. And Ray’s humor is truly truly one of a kind. (When he said, when you go in prayer try light up a cigarette; it was very humorous but it also carries a great message in that we all know it would be wrong to do that). WITH MUCH MUCH LOVE TO YOU GUYS AT LIVING WATERS, GOD BLESS CONTINUE TO BLESS YOUR MINISTRY, IN JESUS NAME , AMEN.
I enjoy you guys so much! Praying for you guys, thank you!!
Great show guys!
Growing up on the Sicilian side of my family we grew up with wine at the table as a kid. Mark if you have to hide your drink from your kids then perhaps you should put it down completely because if they see you one day drinking it Secret it could cause them to stumble
This is great love watching you guys teach, preach etc... your humor is funny and shows what a great relationship you guys have. I use to drink a lot for fun and as I got to know Christ things changed but it isn’t always easy. When ever I’m around those who drink I think about it and ask myself will anyone around stumble because I take a drink so I rather just say no but again it isn’t always easy. God Bless You all 🍻 😂
All of us are full of sin every day. The world is full of temptation and we are weak and wicked. It’s a testament of our faith in how we deal with it. Thank God for all the good things he provides us to lift our spirits and enjoy in moderation.
If your dying take some alcohol it'll get you there quicker 😂
You guys are great love you
Hello To all of you my brothers and sisters ❤
Sending you alots of love from London
We have a hymn that speaks of drinking wine 'His banner over me is love'. The lyrics "He took me to the banqueting table and His banner over me is Love" should be rendered 'He took me to the wine house and His banner over me is love'.
I was worried they would be liberal on this subject. Good to hear they stood firm. I was worried because I saw Ray and Kirk with Martinis in one episode, hope they were fake. Ultimately does drinking glorify God or bring you closer? I answer no everytime
My gut says we should avoid alcohol as saints but there are so many verses that seem to sanction it biblically.
I really feel like Jesus or Paul would have been explicit about never imbibing even a sip of alcohol and not just Paul condemning being a drunkard.
Why would Paul lay out that a Godly woman shouldn't drink "much" wine? Why wouldn't he just say "any" wine?
@@Silence-and-Violence do a study on these verses you speak of, where Jesus turned the water into wine for example. You will find that the word used in the Greek means unfermented grape juice (the word is onyoz, but I'm not sure how to spell it), not alcoholic.
So your gut is correct. The reason it is not stated to never even take a sip of alcohol is that to do so is in fact not a sin, and also because, as Paul told Timothy, a little wine for the stomach sake, medicinal purposes (of the time especially), was beneficial. But the Bible does in fact explicitly come against drunkenness many, many times over, old testament and new. It says to remain sober and vigilant until the return of Jesus, that no drunkard shall enter the kingdom, etc.
Jesus seemed to enjoy wine
@@helyce5303 no, there is no mention of Jesus ever drinking wine, fermented or otherwise.
@@johnboehmer6683 *used in the Greek means unfermented grape juice (the word is onyoz, but I'm not sure how to spell it), not alcoholic.*
The word you're thinking of is οίνος, which is Greek for 'wine'.
Lol I thought she was putting a beer for some drunk that got killed in a car accident and that was his seat and she was putting it there for old time sakes in remembrance or for his ghost.
Ps, thankful that Jesus will judge me, not any one of you🙄😁, where grace and understanding with God’s wisdom is involved for every individual.
Helping people understand they need Jesus without condemnation is a gift you do have in that way, what you specialize in and teaching when it comes to that is amazing, may God Bless your ministry and Shalom to all of you. 🕊🔥
Wine in the biblical sense was grape juice. That was called new wine. Old wine was grape juice fermented. The Old English translation used the word wine interchangeably, whether grape juice or fermented fruit. Jesus turned the water into grape juice. The last supper included not fermented fruit but plain grape juice.
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If taken into access, its a sin. I don't believe having a few is sinful. I myself hate getting drunk.
@disciple duSeigneur My friend/neighbor Loves getting drunk. He doesn't drive. Never got his license. Probably never will. I enjoy a few beers after work,never during the daylight hours,and always only when I'm at home. I can't stand bars or clubs. I stop drinking after only a few,because of hunger. I get very hungry after a few beers. I eat,and then I play my acoustic guitar for an hour or two,then I get very tired, and then I go to sleep.
I Like beer but I never get drunk.I also love Jesus.💕
You're not alone.
@disciple duSeigneur True Christians in Christ's time drank wine... I suppose you think that Jesus made really good grape juice for the wedding feast, and that men "drank to their fill" because of how good the grape juice was? Try inserting the word, grape juice, in place of wine in that passage... It sounds absolutely absurd, because it is. You sir, sound self-righteous in your judgments of what a "true Christian" really is.
@@kakel536 if your drinking causes another to stumble it is a very real sin. If you drink and your private thoughts go to anything unpure it is a sin. If you drink privately to avoid responsibility like praying helping a neighbor in distress taking care of chores needing attention -then it is a sin.
Short answer "No". Long answer - watch this video.
I've tried a little sip of beer and a little taste of Vodka in my life but fortunately I don't like the taste of alcohol. But that being said I have a lusting problem of the opposite sex. I am super afraid to try any amount how little of meth or heroine as I know I would get addicted to that. I have schizophrenia so I value my mental saneness very much and I don't like the way marijuana makes my brain feel. I have been raised in Mormon faith (of which I don't believe in anymore, I believe in the Bible not the other LDS canon, and I think Joseph Smith is a false prophet conman) and I was taught from a young age to not consume drugs (alcohol included) and not do lusting among the other ten commandments. I discovered Living Waters and I really like Ray Comfort as I feel he preaches the gospel of Christ. I have a friend that knows a fellow coworker that has schizophrenia (in a past employment) that the guy with schizophrenia drank alcohol and a voice told him to chop his arm of (I forget which arm? ) and the guy that drank the alcohol with schizophrenia listened to the voice and did chop his arm off. The guy with schizophrenia that chopped his arm off because a voice told him to while he was drinking alcohol stopped drinking alcohol and is still alive today. I'm afraid for my soul in Christ as I need his grace to overcome and move my mountains of stumbling blocks in my life being schizophrenia and lusting.
I totally agree with Ray
lets not let our liberties become a stumbling block onto others
Also this video was funny. I enjoyed it
True that many don't know the hymn "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" but there are just as many who do. The lyrics "what a fellowship, what a joy is mine" are followed in the commercial with girls rejoicing in the clip. So what is happening in the film, is reflected by the music's lyrics. So what or who are the everlasting arms? Is it the beer? Is this the comfort? The solace? Yes, it is very important that we are critical viewers and that we have discerning spirits. Our true comfort is in Christ alone. Everything else is a cheap imitation.
Was 26 years old and never had a drink of alcohol in my life and said that I would never drink. Didn’t allow it in my house and never hung around with anyone that drank alcohol. At 26 I took my first drink and after the second drink I new that I had found the answer to all of life’s problems. Own my own home wife and a son great job living for the Lord and boom 10 years later I was jobless homeless all the things that go with drinking alcohol. And I had said those famous words, I’ll never drink as long as I live. This is just the short story, I could right several books on all things that happened in my drinking career. If not for people that loved me and who were praying for me no doubt I certainly would be dead today. God had mercy on me and answered the prayers for me. It’s been a long time since I’ve had a drink of alcohol and pray to God that I’ll desire a drink ever again. Thank you Jesus Christ for saving my soul and removing the desire form drinking satans life destroying deception.
In Fact, Guinness Beer was created for a Christian, a clerical person
What about being set apart and not fitting in with the world? When you are at the bar or club drinking alcohol you look just like them.
I agree. You look like them and I believe that you are unknowingly partaking with them. God says to come out from among them AND I will be your God and you will be my people. There is a condition there.
I agree completely, but I can’t decide about someone having 1 or 2 drinks with their dinner at home?!
@@sarah4jc506 we are not even to give the APPEARANCE OF evil. Knowing the ravages this poison has inflicted on humanity, how can we raise a toast in faith that it, if not sin, LEADS so often to the path to death and hell. Does any believer think this fact is COINCIDENCE? Like Eve in the garden, we venture on grounds that we have irrefutable EVIDENCE that there is danger??? It is PRESUMPTION to continue on, serpent notwithstanding!!
So did Jesus turn water to wine or welchs grape juice? Why would he make water into wine to help sinners keep going? 🤔
@@theawesomeway4002 I was thinking that u know how some ppl drink fancy coffee after eating to help digestion and not have upset stomach? Like it says wine is for nausea? Doesn't mean its fermented. JESUS doesn't contradict HIMSELF. but I know in those days they relied on food n herbs for health problems. I like to drink sparkling grape juice for my nausea. But dont count my words as biblical. I just putting my 2 cents.
I chose not to touch alcohol ever again, after the Lord led me back to Him after my rebellious year's. As I can't just have one, I'd want 20 rum and cokes. Best decision I made and I don't crave alcohol.
John MacArthur has a great lesson on alcohol, 8 questions or principals re. alcohol.
.t is on TH-cam. I came from a home where my father drank, he was given to it, it took over. I see the great danger in alcohol, and there are other things to drink to have fellowship with people without the danger of it taking over my sobriety and leaving an "bad example" to my friends who are or were "given" to alcohol!
Guinness was founded by Arthur Guinness, an enterprising Christian who wanted to get Irish people to stop drinking trash whiskey. The stuff is quite nutritious, has a low alcohol content, and is "heavy" enough that it's basically impossible to get drunk on. Psalm 104:15 says that God created "wine that maketh glad the heart of man." Scripture also speaks of wine in a positive context in the Song of Solomon and in several places in the Proverbs. Jesus turned water into wine at the wedding at Cana, as we are told in John 2; in light of what v. 10 says, it's impossible to conclude that the wine was not fermented. Drunkenness is a sin; drinking is fine. Even the Puritans drank in moderation; this whole idea that it's evil to drink wasn't introduced into mainstream Christianity until the 19th century, by the temperance movement.
In short, Christian opposition to moderate alcohol consumption is a modern and a legalistic development.
"Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts." (Proverbs 31: 6)
@@florinaschilean6143 And give beer unto they who have finished they're mundane dreadfull work-shift, and realize that they are stuck in they're dreadfull job.
-Rob The Poor Slob.
I would like to dress an important issue. That shirt is not salmon. It is fuchsia. ;D
I agree it is fuschia
No its yellow :l
i like how in the corner of thses videos it says tools lol so fitting
What about having a few brews at home while reading the Bible and watching biblical TH-cam videos? Cuz that's what I did this weekend and I had a blast.
Did anyone ever stop to think that the hymn used in the commercial was used intentionally to portray the soldier leaning on the everlasting arms through the war and those everlasting arms brought him home safely?
Everlasting arms? Safely? It's a beer commercial. I believe that the only way one would come to that conclusion is if they drink alcohol and want to justify that it's ok. There are many scriptures that one can turn to and hear clearly God's warning against the use of alcohol. I'll leave you one: Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.
Sorry man but these 2 guys are kinda right....
"It's not pink it's salmon!" Lol!!
No it was yellow :l
Salmon are pink.
Psalm 104:15
What makes our walk as believers much simpler is knowing what sin is so we can avoid it.
Paul said if he did not know what the Law said he would not know what sin is (Rom 7:7)
Sin is transgression of the Law (1Joh 3:4)
man I drink beer when I'm with my friends
mark travis-- your gonna NEED a cold one, should Jesus return while you are eating & drinking with the drunkards. YOU KNOW THIS!! Come out...before ya just can't. He calls many. So Few follow. Narrow paths require sober minds, and focused hearts. OUT...
Don't beat yourself up. Just learn to love God more than getting tipsy. Life is precious and this body is a gift. I'm in constant awe and wonderment with the faculties God has bestowed upon us. Praise God.
Mark if you can’t drink in heaven I Would like to be reincarnated
So finally drinking one beer a day After work is a sin or not ???
soul soldier
Are you dependent on it? Do you need it to get through the day?
2k years ago wine was a safe source for hydration that also has some vitamins and benefits. That was before clean, safe, running water became commonly available.
1 Thes 5:22 and Phil 4:8 are my guiding principles when it comes to the things I do, the things I watch, the things I listen to, and the things I eat and drink.
Yes i am
1 Thessalonians 5:7-8
For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be SOBER, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
I remember my grandmother using a little whine is good for the stomach. I was a child at the time in the late 1970s(8 or 9 years old). I remember saying. But you're drinking Colt 45. It can be a stumbling block for some.
I'm watching this while I drink a beer, not Guiness though
Florin Aschilean drinking coors Banquet 🤙🏻
@@bono977 Rocky mountain piss water
But science says that even just a sip of alcohol affects the body with drunkenness. The wine Jesus made was non alcoholic
squishy booty no it does not. Do some research.
Jesus could not have been drinking non-alcoholic wine (grape juice) because they didn't have refrigeration in those days. Jesus and His apostles were drinking real wine.
Drinking one beer or one glass of wine doesn't make one drunk. In that hot climate the grape juice quickly fermented and became wine. Its not a sin. Dt14:26 the Spirit of truth can't contradict itself. Yes. God allows us to drink alcohol.
Anyone here
1. Never got old, always young and strong...
2. Anyone here never sick before
3. Anyone here never suffer before when make money...
4. Anyone here is ready to be rapture rather then preparing to die
ANYONE
Def ready for rapture
Watching as a kid what alcohol did to my parents, (parties, wild, angry drunks fighting and throwing up all over themselves, etc) I decided I didn't want any part of that, so I never touched alcohol until I was in my mid twenties. I was 25 years old when my wife at the time turned 21, and she wanted to drink and party. Not wanting her to feel guilty and drink alone, (trying to be a "good, supportive husband") I decided to try drinking with her. Spent two months drinking with her, mostly light, fruity beers, but I tried some heavier liquors twice, got drunk twice, had a horrible hangover both times, and decided to stick with the light stuff. But then one night at the club, while I was playing pool, my wife was sexually assaulted on the dance floor. Being drunk herself, she couldn't defend herself. She couldn't even describe the guy because she couldn't think straight. It was then that I decided never to drink again. I haven't tasted alcohol in 17 years, and I'm never going back.
Drunkenness is sin. I was brought up in an Italian home and was around wine a lot. Enjoying one drink is not sin at all. Bless you guys.🌸🌹🌷🌺🌼🌻
A true Christian would know, by the Spirit, not to touch it.
Dena, Wish I was as holy as you think you are. Repent of your own sins..
@@captjo9570 If I admit I'm a sinner, how would I then think I'm holy? But if you want to repent and be holy like God, nothing is stopping you.
I will not argue. But You don’t know me at all. Please give people a chance to give their thoughts without human judgement. We all have crosses to bare. I got insulted and embarrassed by this. May the Lord help us all.
If it causes your sister or brother to stumble then it is.
Doing things in moderation with control and discipline like drinking a beer in front of your children can be a good example of the benefits of a disciplined life. Imagine a father tells his son "Your mother lets me have 1 beer after dinner on Fridays". This not only shows discipline but respect for a wife's authority and judgement. Yes it's easier to become an alcoholic by drinking one beer a week as compared to no beers a week - I can't argue with that simple logic. In that it is overall best not to drink at all. The health benefits of wine and beer can be found elsewhere in the food kingdom.
Why would you say your mother let's me have it that doesn't sound right haha
I like the comment about alcohol "not being profitable" for him. I agree..that if something is not "serving" us in a positive way or is somehow preventing us from attaining all we are meant to be, its best to not have it. But I do think bacon is an issue guys. ;)
I have one beer now and again, only one and sometimes I don’t finish it. God bless you guys.
if you love beer that much ,,, drink non-alcoholic
Doesn't taste the same.... Jesus is King. 🎊
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We are free to drink what we prefer. I drink alcohol and I don't get drunk so I'm not sinning.
You know whether your drinking is sinful or not. If in doubt? Don't drink. Also, if you can drink, don't drink around others who may stumble into sin because they really shouldn't drink. I find it hard to believe that it is 100% "sinful" to drink, even though I haven't had a beer in 5 years after too many years of drinking... Don't judge your Brother and ask that he doesn't judge you. Jesus' First Miracle was making a fine wine at a wedding feast so the mere drinking of Alcohol can't be sinful.
Reformed Pubcast. 'Nuff said.
Great Episode guys! Scriptural, insightful and and hilarious! I love Mark's *PINK* shirt! ;)
Salmon are pink.
Is it a sin to drink bear? :b
No if you get drunk it is a sin.
Powerfaust No, but it is tedious to liquify it.
You can't liquify it
No drunkard will inherit the kingdom of God.
Chad Daniels John 5:40 But you are *not willing* to come to Me that you may have life.
***** no it doesn't, thank you captain obvious.
***** hypocrite.
***** read Matthew 7:1-5. The shoe fits.
When you spoke of my attitude.
Very well said!!!!
My friend's son just died of liver failure. He was an alcoholic who could not stop. He leaves a four year old daughter and wife behind. It all started with a beer.
If God steps in the room while you're involved in "your activity" and your conscience is activated, you probably shouldn't be doing "it". Allowed but not profitable....
Good way to put it
But God himself didn't have a problem with his people drinking in a joyful manner. The verses quoted by many have the context of drunkenness or excess. It's like saying physical activity is bad because TOIL is a curse and toiling reduces your immunity and breaks your body.
Deut 14:26 🤔
And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for *wine*, or for *strong drink*, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
@@roobaba5415 I wasn't disagreeing. I was just saying, ANY behavior or activity that makes you ashamed before God, don't do it.
No it is not a sin to drink alcohol. Getting drunk is a sin which is explicitly stated in the Bible.
...of course we are not to drink to get drunk.
Why would Paul tell Timothy to have wine daily for his stomach and infrimites?
1 Thessalonians 5:5-6
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be SOBER.