“What About Those Who’ve Never Heard?”
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2014
- Episode #207
The Comfort Zone is a half-hour, weekday program where we answer your questions! Jam-packed with biblical insight, real-world answers, and a lot of fun, this program will stir you up to reach out to the lost!
Hosted by: Ray Comfort, Emeal ("E.Z.") Zwayne, and Mark Spence.
Each episodes revolves around evangelism, apologetics, witnessing, and theology.
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I LOVE YOU GUYS, GOD HAS ANSWERED SO MANY QUESTIONS FOR ME THROUGH YOU, AND EMPOWERED ME TO BE BOLDER IN MY WALK AND TESTIMONY I LOVE LIVING WATERS THANK YOU GUYS ALWAYS!!!
Everytime Mark Spence speaks he says something that you want to memorize for later aha love these guys
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are WITHOUT excuse:
Always an encouragement, fantastic!
I have the same thing in Flemish. When I pray to God I'm more likely to use old Flemish conjugations because the Flemish Bible is written like that. It still happends when I'm not intending to do that but I guess it is because it is a very respecting way of talking.
This is a very serious theological dilemma which cant be answered so easly, What about children who were murdered in their mothers' wombs? Are they going to be judged for all the good or bad things they could not do in their lives? Or were they sinless, which contradicts the Bible?(only Jesus Christ is sinless).
I think that God is far more wiser than anything we can come up with and His love, His justice dwarfs anything we can imagine. We have to leave the final judgement to God. Yet we cant simply leave these people to live in ignorance.
does the school of biblical evangelism have a age limit? I'm 15.
Hi my brother in Christ. Did you end up becoming an evangelist?
God bless your life! 15 and looking for God,,, praise God
Can some one tell me where I can find stories about those uncontacted tribes that said we knew you were coming?
Not that it's necessary, but I enjoy a little reverence in the tone of a prayer :) You hit the nail on the head though Ray as to why people do that, it is kind of an era thing.
John 3:18
" ... But those who do not believe are condemned already"
It's very biblical, actually.
What About Those Who’ve Never Heard....The "bible" says this about them after death
>> (New Testament | 1 Peter 4:6)
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Everyone is given [ grace ] opportunity to hear it and either accept or reject it.
Love this just like the current/modern podcast
Where can I watch that comedy routine??? I’d love to watch and share it.
THE MYSTERY OF A SUPERNATURAL MAN VISITING ALL CIVILIZATIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME, AND TELLING THEM HE WOULD RETURN! I PONDER THIS??? THIS SPEAKS TO ME STRONGLY!!! AND ALWAYS HAS!!!
The way i look at it..
These tribal people in Africa and such
That have never heard of Jesus will go to heaven..
Because i believe they haven't reached the age of accountability..
Their minds are still that of a child's...That's the way i look at it..
I might be wrong..But that's the only way that i could see them getting into
Heaven.
*****
Good point...
But what about the tribes that the missionaries don't get to..
The undiscovered tribes?
I just find it kind of hard to believe
That God would punish someone Who
has no knowledge of the outside world whatsoever.
***** Easiest way actually to understand it is this. The bible says you are either in Adam or in Christ. All in Adam die, all in Christ live. You don't goto hell just because of your sin but because you are born into original sin because of Adam.
Gthetricker Yes...I'm very aware of that.
But if there is a tribe that has never had any contact with the outside world and know nothing of the bible why would God punish them?...Yeah he should punish them for original sin...But would they not be considered under the age or in this case mindset of accountability?
Do you have an answer for hard solipsism?
And how about romans 2:12.... can you explain pls
I believe God will have mercy on those who didn't know. like in luke 12 it says 47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked "
I believe it will be a short term thing those who willing out right reject God, they will be far worse off. many people fully do, also those who get the mark of the beast will be sealed too.
If Jesus were their master then they would be born again, which they can not be without believing in Jesus and repenting of their sins.
What you quoted was about Christians that willingly are sinning, or ignorantly are sinning= do not care to realise that they are actually sinning, maybe like Christians that are illegally downloading movies and games= stealing= thievery= a serious sin.
ServentOfTheSon yeah, well i play with ROMs. of rare games that are older than me or hacked games. i wouldn't say it's stealing.
i don't download music illegally, iTune has free music i download it if i like the song i really try not to sin
Naruto Uzumaki
If you take stuff you are suppouse to pay for, then it is stealing.
I wasn´t accusing you. :)
God bless you! :)
ServentOfTheSon i know
yes....but even the highest best place in HELL is still HELL
Our Holy Mother the Catholic Church teaches that those who never heard the Gospel can be saved, if they loved God with whatever knowledge of God they had, if they had repented of at least all their major sins, and if they would have been converted had they heard the Gospel. We call this the implicit baptism of desire, in that they implicitly desired Baptism, had it been available, had they knew that was what God wanted.
Some will ask, where is that in the Bible? The answer to that is that not everything got written down in the Bible, some things are transmitted down through the centuries in the Church only by word of mouth----see 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and John 21:25.
If it wasn’t recorded in the Bible then it wasn’t meant to be preserved or observed. I don’t accept, “trust me bro.” to inform my understanding of doctrine. Not only that but what you have stated contradicts scripture. There is no salvation outside of faith in Jesus Christ. Before Jesus came it was faith in the promise of Jesus Christ.
If the law is written on our hearts then we must be honest with ourselves when we totally trample on the 4th commandment of keeping the sabbath holy , don't we .... Do you think Jesus would keep Sunday ? Now you know , keep the law according to the word not according to the world ... Bless you all
Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Amen~!
I love and trust Jesus
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
We were visiting with some friends in their 90's yesterday, and this subject came up. They don't do computers, and we are wondering if you have this message written down that we could copy and share with them.
what about the multitudes of those who have heard the gospel but yet still dont believe and reject it?
what about those who live in underground churches in the communist countries who have been born-again by God through the Holy Spirits inward calling and drawing because sinners all have a God-given conscience and though these underground believers have no bibles no tv or cable or internet etc...they still know and believe and have been supernaturally CHANGED!
What's kuvetchusness??? 2:07
Its 'Covetousness' :) Basically greed.
But isn't it pronounced with a T? )))
***** Type it into google translate and let it talk the word back to you.
Google translate says covet-us-ness. But not covet-chus-ness. )))
***** My time is important, if your trolling then please end now. If it says covet-us-ness then thats how you should say it.
If there was a JUST god he would have to give everyone an equal opportunity to get to heaven. It would be unfair for someone who never heard how to get saved to go to hell.
You are talking about "Fairness" not Justice. Justice is getting what you deserve. Hell is what we all deserved before God's gift of salvation
Fairness goes along with justice. Would you call a judge good who wasn't fair?
Damo21 Justice and fairness are similar, it is true. However, justice would see us all going to Hell. Our debt has been payed by Christ, however. God doesn't force salvation upon everyone, only those who believe.
Damo21 Do you believe in God?
Jordan Schaeffer That's my point. It wouldn't be justice to send some one to hell if they didn't know what they were doing wrong and then on top of that you didn't tell them how to be saved. Its like putting mice in a maze and who ever doesn't make it to the end of the maze dies but you give some mice an advantage by showing them the way to the end and the others you just let flounder around until they die.
So you guys believe that we all (Christians) who have accepted Christ, will still be judged according to our works???
I would imagine that the people would be in the same position as Pre-Christian Gentiles that lived far away from Israel. So if we are justified by putting our trust in Yeshua but the Pre-Christian Gentiles lived before the word became flesh, so before the Messiah came. However, Abraham existed before the Torah was given on Mount Sinai and he believed in God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. So did Abraham have someone tell him he broke God's law? So the argument is that a person can't merit heaven by doing good works or by doing the works of the Torah because everyone has broken the Torah they were never given, but in their conscience, they knew they had done wrong or right. So basically what you would say people are saved by obeying God's law so if a Pre-Christian Gentiles went by their consciences and obeyed God's Torah and natural law or the seven Noachide laws that they would not go to Gehenna. So you believe in the natural law that being the Law apart from the Torah or Mosiac Covenant. So you see you fail to grasp that these people far away from Christianity are like Pre-Christian Gentiles outside of Israel or not affiliated with Judaism.
Do you realize that you are saying that people are justified by obeying the Torah or the natural law? Those people are punished for their sins, but not so with Patriarchs then Abram believed in the Lord and it was accredited to him for righteousness. So you see Abraham was justified by faith and he lived before the Mosiac Covenant. So you are kind of teaching that if a person is obedient to the law they can save themselves and don't need to believe in God and be justified by faith. So basically the people outside are faithless they don't know the Lord they are like the Gentiles that were atheos without God. So if trust in God or faith God in any generation is required to be justified how can they be justified without special revelations? Then if without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins the atonement has been made already for sin I mean the Messiah was executed for the sins of the world but if you don't receive this atonement by faith you will not be saved.
However, if you recall Israel was not offering sacrifices for the sins of the entire world's population, they were only doing it for their own nation. So Gentiles outside separated from the covenants far from Israel were not receiving atonement for sin on Yom Kippur. So like I said that people who were too far away to hear the Torah the Pre-Christian nations far away from Israel were not receiving anything from the Covenants God made with Israel unless they were outsiders living in Israel or near Israel. Then later on The Jewish people were scattered so Judaism was spread through this scattering as well. Then later Judaism was spread throughout the world during 1st century AD, but there were still people outside who were not affiliated with Judaism. So if you were not affiliated with Judaism you didn't know the Torah you were without the Torah. Then, even so, the outsiders were not considered Jews and were still aliens from the covenants unless they converted to Judaism. Then Gentiles were still under the Noachide Covenant or the Noachide laws, so there probably was Noachidism if this is not a revisionist teaching of Judaism to include Gentiles without having them become Jewish.
So those who were without the Torah were the Pre-Christian Gentiles and the people who are far away to hear the Gospel or have not received special revelations of the Lord are similar to these people. Then I know you like to say that we broke God's Law but Pre-Christian Gentiles were never under the Torah they were never apart of the Mosiac Covenant. So you are saying God's law is actually a combination of the natural law and The Torah.
I love Ray and Living Waters... But this doesn't make complete sense. The situation of the Old Testament saints should have been explained as well..
Sin has no bearing on our final destination.... we are thrown into the lake of fire IF our name is not found in the book of life.
Jesus really did die for all and took the whole cup of God's wrath.
***** The reason Jesus came is to solve that issue, natoli.
So if the remote tribes knew for generations that people would come to explain salvation, what happened to those generations of people who lived and died before the missionaries arrived. They are burning in a cage right now like the Jordanian pilot, right?
God is powerless to save them. They didn't pray the right prayer or get their doctrine right.
What do you mean?
funny guy
I'm sure Ray and EZ are nice but I can't help but feel that mark spence is always picked on during the show sometimes I see like frustration in marks face
Mark is doing the same thing to EZ.
The thing is that EZ is in the main window so to speak, so EZ will always have the most of the camera time.
Grandi, the Dali llama, Hopi Indians and the Aborigines are all screwed then! Oh to be Holier than though!
No one is Good but God. We aren't judged for the good things we do here, we're judged for our sins.
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Let me tell you a SECRET, God speaks in OLD ENGLISH
Could any Christian here tell me how they would feel if a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or any other person of faith were to try and convert them?
+Tricia Coke Why wouldn't we want to dialog with a person of another faith? We have the truth and want to share it.
The thing about that is they also feel like they have the truth and want to share it.
you should search Christian faiths converting to this and that religion based on them actually encountering the other faiths prophet, god or something. but if you do the opposite where Muslims and Buddhist people converted to God because God gave them visions. Wouldn't that spark their religion and the people who follow that faith? I'm pretty sure everyone has heard of God
@@triciacoke43 - There is only one truth.
Have you guys invented a time machine yet since before Christianity was invented no one knew the plan for salvation. And go back 20,000 years. They sure as heck had no access to the plan for salvation.
MAN MADE
I love atheist people hahaha