In Conversation With...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2020
- What is consciousness? In this first episode with @Exurb1a we discuss consciousness; the nature of the mind; artificial intelligence; free will and determinism; a conscious universe; and much more!
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Existential Crisis: The Podcast
We neeed this
Accurate.
That would be awesome! ❤️
That's my secret cap, i always have an existential crisis
Completely agree.
I didn't know exurb1a could talk like mortals too...
@@Chris-xl6jt you high or do you know elvish?
@@AsifAkhtar20 sorry screen lock failed!
ikr thought he would talk in rythmes and poems
@@mashucha and/or poetic sarcasm.
@@AsifAkhtar20 both rn
This is what the teacher expects when they say “discuss among yourselves”
i wish....
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"So a statue and a turtle walk into a bar..."
and you will not believe what happened next
Both died
wHy thE lOnG fACe
why the long face?
The statue says, "took you some time".
An hour and 40 minutes of exurb1a? No, I didn't want to sleep anyway
No human death rehearsal tonight.
I guess you will be conscious while you watch the video
1:17 AM and I just turned it on
The future me will me displeased with my actions, at least...
And now you are woke for ever
@@mystiverse Sleep Is Just Death Being Shy
Statue talking to turtle.
Best thing in 2020
Well, it's certainly no stranger than anything else that's happened!!
@@mystiverse
Hmm
It's turtles, all the way down.
Celestial turtle
girl in a gale always has been
you hardly find two people talking about these sorts of topics so respectfully. such open minded people i'm amazed! oh sorry, not people but a statue and a turtle.
An important correction.
It's nice to see that people can still talk about their beliefs without getting hostile or attacking each other for having different opinions
@@marnussteyn9216 To be fair it seemed like they mostly agreed
Got a pocast channel comming soon with myself and a friend talking bout this kind of stuff, but he is christian and im not, and we have different political and social ideas. Will be all respectful discourse. Please, consider having a look once its up and running
thank god its not all cats and memes on youtube ;-)
Daily Chores:
□ Get Groceries
□Wash Car
□Do Laundry
□Solve the problem of Consciousness
□Feed the Cat
Oh crap. I forgot about the cat....
dude u wash the car daily?
🤔How sad that"Feed Cat" is placed at the bottom of list!😿.
@@aymanalikarattuchalio6372 None of these are daily chores except feeding a cat if you have one, why you get stuck on the car? 🤣
@@aymanalikarattuchalio6372 he works in a car wash
Has anyone confirmed these voices exist in a physical form beyond disembodied voices on youtube? Maybe this is just one AI talking to another AI.
By God!..
no.
Haha nice question for an AI
exurb1a has videos where you can see him
@@Isaac-np2xp Nothing an AI couldn't simulate. Some footage of arms, legs, rooms and a cute cat.
Finally we'll hear him in normal tone
my dad still hasnt bought me that FUCKING ETCH E SKETCH
Screaming is his normal tone this was his abnormal tone
Wot? Normal tone? Which bit was that, then? I must have missed that part...
@@jadonskatoff4726 I can clearly hear that quote ringing in my brain
Exurb1a doesn’t actually have an echo effect on his mic, he just sounds like that normally
I think it's the natural reverb in his room, or he could be a disembodied god.
@@cameronblanchette6687 what do you mean, he is the closest incarnation of deity in this world
Just has natural *reverb*
His voice still sounds great tho :>
@@cameronblanchette6687 I think the latter
3:12 Ipsity
10:30 Knowledge
20:00 Consciousness
25:05 AI and consciousness
33:15 Brain and the origin of consciousness
36:35 Science
43:45 Dan Dennett and free will
1:04:09 Buddhist doctrine of emptiness.
1:13:00 Scientism and humility.
1:18:00 What's the point of consciousness.
1:25:18 Dreaming
1:30:15 System 1 and system 2 thinking. Nihilism and freedom to be anything, while having no control about what do you want.
1:35:50 Why consciousness is the good thing?
Thank you
Cheers G
Thank you much so
Ur amazing✨
Legen..
Wait for it
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Dary
LEGENDARY
Is this what conversation is like for people who read?
Nobody reads anymore. It's all about downloading information straight to your brain nowadays. Keep up!
@@mystiverse
Whispers: (use audible code mysti for 10%)
This is what a conversation sounds like when I open the fridge to decide what to eat.
Trader Lenny s-son?
mystiverse 15:24
Exurb1a: Sure, sure...
Mystiverse: Yeah, definitely
I couldn't agree more.
To me it always sounds like it's almost sarcastic or exurb1as thinking about something else at the moment. It's kind of interesting
Caustic Hydra Yeah, to me I imagine him staring blankly at the wall deep in thought whenever he says it
That’s really interesting because...
@@charliewilkinson2128 I literally read this as he said it😂😂😂
They're not talking to the audience, they're having an actual conversation with each other, and you're lucky to just witness it.
Just like you would around a camp fire. As man has done since the dawn of C R A F T
Yeah... i feel as if im listening in on a conversation.
NERD CHAT ROUND THE FIRE!
it brings me back to childhood, listening in on adults conversations.
-"well that's funny cause I was talking with my friend and"
-"oh yes that's really interesting, cause the other day I was reading a book..."
-"of course I couldn't be more agreed with you, I was developing a theory the other day than try to..."
-"Have you heard of antimatter?"
....if you let them keeping going they'll figure out the laws of existence.
lmao
I am so happy the youtube algorithm deamed me worthy of viewing such a god like conversations between two absoloute gods disguised in a body of us mere mortals
Oh thank you, but I'm just a statue.
@@mystiverse and he's just a turtle
all hail the godly space turtle
I was also granted this knowledge from the algorithm, having watched the turtle speak before
Two British people being British
This feels like the two voices inside my head asking themselves what the inside of my head actually is.
I'm glad smart people get a platform nowadays, instead of getting burned in a square.
you cant deny burning people is fun tho
@@gontran8638 its not when you’re the one being burned though
@@Kreedo1110 fair enough
@@gontran8638 Ok really made me laugh,but you are not wrong I really like to see people BRUN
"It's quite a privilege to live on the inside of one of the greatest mysteries that ever was."
For some reason this makes me love life in a very intense, brief way.
After hearing this podcast I really want to learn more about philosophy, are there some audiobooks or podcasts that you could recommend? ^^
@@IEnoro Jung, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, Nietzsche, Descartes, Confucius 🤷♂️
(Content Warning) Tao Te Ching
@@IEnoro philosophers are still looking, that means they dont know
@@IEnoro , for podcasts: philosophy bites, philosophy bakes bread
Two gods having a conversation:
Just another Saturday.
exurb1as reverb makes that he sounds more godlike
Just like those two gods from Minecraft after you beat the ender dragon
@@mazayat3466 except it actually makes sense
@@Akumo69 does it though?
“I can’t believe I came to this conversation sober, what was I thinking” Me in every social situation ever
"...i'm really impressed we did this sober..."
-"uh, yeeaahh..."
this conversation made me high enough.
While I haven’t got to that part… I would bet exurb1a said the second part
This is the best thing the algorithm could’ve given me while on a small dose of mushrooms.
It feels like a rollercoaster riding the waves of the universe.
Edit: oh boi here de existential crisis comes
Do you see funny memes too? Picture sounds and feeling?
It’s weird cause I’ve never heard him talk to someone else before
Same
th-cam.com/video/Zzvi0e2d9WU/w-d-xo.html
maybe you haven't watched the unlimited rice pudding video, he talks to his mother
He also talks with his cat
Why haven't these two teamed up to solve the universe's heat death yet?
Ice death
Well I mean they have to learn physics together?
They did already, we call it the big bang.....
Upsilon Dies Backwards
They are actually discussing that in this podcast, but our limited human mind cannot comprehend their speech, and in an attempt to shield us from the blatant realization of our incomprehensible ignorance compared to their infinite wisdom, it (our mind) is masking their utterances as intelligible sentences that seem to be about topics which we understand. This is just like when you overhear a conversation in a foreign language where the people talking use words that are similar to those in your own language and you mistakenly believe that they are actually speaking in your language, but when you pay attention you realize that your mind played tricks on you.
lol.
I love hearing actual discussions between philosophers. I learned a few things and have several concepts to look up. I wish you both the best. To a beautiful future, true understanding, and ever a new mystery to explore and contemplate.
I know not what the future holds, not what reality is, not the meaning of life, the universe, and everything, but the very idea that I may be able to understand one day filled me with an insatiable desire to try my best to find out.
Never stop learning!
The meaning of life is easy. By asking the question it is already answered.
@Nícolas i guess he means the meaning of life is finding the meaning of life, but this leads to self-referencial paradoxes if u think about it
Play this video at 2x speed to hear Exurb1a’s normal voice
I shouldnt be so happy to find out you watch this too. But I am so Hi! 💙
Genuinely if you put it at 1.25 it does.
Holy crap your channel is garbage.
@@_d6526 Sorry, did you think that this was the correct section to leave hate at? Because my friend, you are wrong. Say something nice, or play a little game I call shuttie. Mkay
@@floraldystopia have you seen their channel? 15 tiktok life hacks that will make mom and daf hspoy with a clickbait channel. Fake personality, stupid name, garbage. Thats all their channel is. And your response is stupid
exurb1a: "yea i'd say five ten minutes we should be"
me 100mins later: "woah that was one of the best 10 mins in my life"
That's why I played the video at 20x speed. Got all that information and now I'm good to go.
You skipped the middle part?
Watch it high and it'll be better
I want but can not like it cause 420
10^2 minutes
mystiverse if you are reading this, You are a terrific host.
Thank you very much indeed.
What if he wasn’t reading it, not so terrific? 😁
@@boblevine104 lol, that's not what i meant.
Turtle man and statue in the void talk to each other while colorful waves appear below their bodies.
*the void*
When Roombas beep when they get stuck, humans kinda just project onto the Roomba that it is distressed. It's so weird that humans can become empathetic with things that we know are not conscious but will treat it like such regardless.
Even more bizarrely, many will watch a sentient animal in distress and convince themselves the animal isn't conscious. Excess function is interesting, lack of function is interesting, but wrong function is complete absurdity.
“I’ve been looking forward to this” -Count Dooku
My content quality has doubled since the last time we met.
@@mystiverse Double the quality, double the adrev... hopefully.
@@manuelc3671 he gets no ad revenue, yet
So it could have doubled since 0x0=0
@@maxernst299 You mean 2x0=0
honestly, this was most definitely the highlight of my day, i really appreciate both of you taking the time to record this.
It was honestly so much fun, and I'd definitely be down to do it again!
I really don’t have any witty or intelligent things to say about this, just have a simple thank you for getting exurb1a on the podcast and getting to discuss this, it was a charm, and it was worth every second. Godspeed to the both of you.
The fact that this video has 650k views and the channel only has 50k subs, and sure, I came here after exurb1a, but how can someone sit and listen and not think this channel worth a sub? I'm thoroughly impressed and depressed by both of you.
“Impressed and depressed” lmao
Just got a huge dopamine rush seeing this in my recommended!
I would honestly love this as a podcast, if that is a possibility
Honestly, this is kinda part of why I've initiated a podcast with 3 of my similarly verbose compatriots
Same!
@@jimshepherd6500 what's your podcast? I'd love to listen
I hear exurb1a’s voice an it always sounds so nice , like he’s a constant narrator
"That's an awesome note to leave it on ..."
"I can't believe I came to this conversation sober ...
Stone man and turtle have philosophical discussion [Circa 2020, Colourised]
>Colourised
I see the Britishness is also preserved.
So when is he gonna collab with exurb2a?
This... this is amazing. Hearing exurb1a talk without a script is fantastic. And I mean come on, 1h40’ of a conversation about consciousness? Who the fuck wouldn’t adore that? It’s also great to hear all these different perspectives, because I feel like sometimes we forget that our point of view isn’t the limit. When you forget that, your ideas become a kind of cage, don’t they? That’s why these videos are so delightful, I reckon. Thank you for this, thank you for freeing me from my cage of preconceptions once more. I’m eternally grateful :)
YT probably recommended me this based on how I use Exurb1a's channel like a recreational drug.. 😂
Anybody else?
Yeah, but the algorithm was a couple days late for me.
Dude I watch his channel just as much as I smoke pot😂
This feels like the conversation the two gods in Minecraft have when you finish the game
r/exurb1a... assemble
wait. That exist!?!!
@@longboye9935, hell yeah it does! And a discord server too!
@@Vivivofi An Exurb1a discord exists? That's beautiful, I have to join immediately!
Is it official or fanmade?
insert christian name- both of them are official! :)
extremely stimulating to listen to. glad i found this:) thx a lot, appreciate ur contribution!!
That was probably the most polite conversation I have ever heard. Thank you both for allowing us to witness that ☺️
This could be the chance for you to get the exposure you need to have the audience you deserve! So glad you landed this, and looking forward to see it
Yeah... totally subbed!
this premiere's at 4am for me so...
see you there chaps
You're mex right?
Max Ernst Yeah. I’m surprised you found my yt
THIS! WAS! AWESOME!!
thank you very much
I love the energy of this conversation, so vibrant and respectful.
I found this conversation intensely interesting. You and Exerb1a bounce off each other nicely and the audio quality was fantastic.
Very keen to hear what the next conversation will be. Thank you for sharing.
Recommendation for anyone watching (and in general):
Every time you even remotely lose what they're talking about, restart the video.
Don't feel ashamed; I am studying for a Master's Degree in Engineering Science at the University of Oxford, which is quite possibly the most difficult undergraduate course and the hardest University to get into, and I've restarted half a dozen times in the first 5 minutes already.
Learning is not perfectly absorbing and storing away everything at the first instance of exposure. It's repeating and iterating until you're able to independently embody the knowledge yourself, and then doing exactly that.
Start again as many times as you need, and don't feel bad about it. Feel good about honestly trying, about never giving in, and then feel proud when you get to the end.
And then - Start Again.
Thanks Jim, that’s an inspiring comment. I’ve taken a screenshot and I might print it off and hang it up on my wall at some point!
@@johncalabria1607 Thanks my dude!
I've taken the liberty of writing up a nicer formatted version of it. Here's the link (if you'd like to print it!):
docs.google.com/document/d/1--SLVr9D0hitf2xF9GK5SBFLnFKNqkKXNpNKVSN9d5I/edit?usp=sharing
Enjoy! Xx
Is it something like "Don't fell bad because you are wrong, fell good because you learned something"?
BTW as a non native English speaker that mainly learned American english I'm kinda scared I guess lol
@@felipebrunetta2106 EXACTLY.
* feel 😉
Drinking game: 1 shot every time @exurb1a says "sure, sure"
2 shots every time he apologizes
This was so insanly helpfull to me, I do not know how to thank you. Not only do I adore the take on deteremnism but also it just solved an existential crisis. I had a bad psilocybin trip and basically thought of something very similar to what I now, thanks to you, know to be the idea philosophy. Now I might, hopefully be able to solve this personal problem. Once again thank you.
On the topic of blind people sensing a light, I'm completely deaf on my left ear and whenever I used to tell that to a person early in life they'd ask me if they could scream into my ear(and sometimes they didn't ask) and I let them do it once, but it still hurts a lot, because the pain is independent from the hearing. I suspect there might be something similar going on with the light, where there is a mechanism that is faster then the full processing of visual stimulus that just tells your brain there is too much light, please protect the eyes.
It's sort of the same way in which blind people still react to different facial expressions. Some of the 'visual' processing isn't visual at all, but it's done by the body.
I didn't know who exurb1a was, so I looked them up... this is awesome!
how!?
how!?
Oh mate you’ve been missing out
Have you got to the one with the bear and the goose yet???
Bro good profile you've got
I'd absolutely love to see more conversations like this. Somehow you keep it educational while at the same time making it entertaining in a way
Yes admittedly I came here seeing exurb1a , but have been spending the last few days listening to our wonderful host and his other videos . Majorly appreciate the effort from both of you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Wait.....exurb1a is a human? I thought he was just a god
I do love the reverberation on his side though, either he's recording from a hallway or from heaven, both are equally likely I'd say.
aftab khan ahaha *lip bite* I could say the same about chu
God in human form
justnatalia A god? Who are the other gods? :)
You never know, there could be thousands of gods or maybe even no god. Maybe any people’s beliefs are different and while some may believe in the Christian god or Ala (monotheism) or believe in the Greek Pantheon (polytheist.)
I love how the turtle thinks of philosophy with his own curiosity while the statue tries to correlate it by basing on the books and research.
Liked, subscribed and downloaded this before even listening to it, can’t wait to hear this!
Excellent conversation. One of the best I’ve heard on consciousness
I downloaded it and listened to it on my bike, now I've got it on muted to still give you the watchtime you deserve, hope you don't mind.
I really liked it, especially the idea that the fastest way to find out what a program does is to run it as a metaphore for determanistic/free will.
Indeed... that might be one of my favourite ideas I've ever come across!
This discussion is really interesting. My dad is a professor of political philosophy at a local university, and he also happens to be Catholic. He’s the smartest person I’ve ever met honestly. Would love to hear his thoughts on some of these topics
So would I, very much so!
I know I've listened to this a year ago, but recapping on the philosophy here brought me back to what we mortals really r...
...great stuff here....like university professors don't even go this deep...I love it!
I actually enjoyed this visual background, it wasn't distracting from the audio. Since it's difficult enough already to comprehend what is being said. Great episode, excited for more stimulating content like this 🙌
God I could listen to Exurb1a all day long, he’s hilarious, has a great accent and tone, and he always talks about interesting stuff. Glad you brought us this video man :)
Listened to this during my workout, best workout in my entire life if I can be honest. Because I was listening so hard I ignored the pain lol
Got to get those gains somehow.
What a wonderful conversation... thank you both
This was the most interesting podcast I have ever heard (and I have hear 3 podcasts! /s)
I would love to hear more from both of you together.
Boutta watch all of your videos while I wait for this
Much appreciated!
I can honestly say that it is not often when I'm amazed by how much knowledge I can gain on a subject matter, in such a short time period. This was a brilliant conversation. Thank-you
This is awesome!
This is the conversation I wish I could have with Exerb1a
Much thanks
I could go for more of this, mate. Great work!
can't wait for you and turtle boi
What I like is that you guys talk about all these complex things, but you don’t use big fancy worlds unless it’s absolutely necessary, you talk about complex things in a way regular people can understand and that’s a skill
Thank you for doing this, glad we finally have a little more insight into his personality
pls more of these, they slap hard af
On the 'only being able to dream about ourselves' topic, I personally once dreamt of being able to see myself in the 3rd person and even seen something, somewhere I wasn't
That section confused me a little, because I often describe myself as a disembodied 3rd person camera in my dreams. The majority of the time I’m myself in 1st person, but I’m also consistently a free floating entity that I can only poorly describe as being behind the camera that I’m very vaguely aware I’m viewing my dream through. In those cases I’m either not part of the narrative in any way or I’m viewing myself from above.
Anyways, this was an amazing conversation. Best I’ve listened to in many years. was a big fan of both of you and I’m so glad to finally see the academical side and not just the „dumbed down“ 10 Minute „easy to digest“ TH-cam style (it is of course neither dumbed down nor at all easy to digest) love it so much, much love
I dismissed watching this for so long but I regret it, this is amazing and severely underrated
This goes straight into my "listen while drawing" playlist. Thank you for this.
This kind of stuff would make a legendary podcast, great content!
0 dislikes, you both are legends.
3
10 God damn it
I just Love how they listen to what the other one is saying and not interrupting them even if the other one is making a short thinking break. Very respectful
They should do the next US presidential debate
That was beautiful. Thank you for making this. I hope we get to see more episodes.
This is one of the most mind blowing and inspirational talks I have heard in years
that was such a scintillating conversation you two had. I'll have to listen to it again. (gotta jot down all the books and podcasts you referred!) thank you!
Thank you very much indeed. If you do manage to note them down, be sure to leave a comment!
Looking forward to listening to this! :D Love his videos!
Wow guys!! I like this very much. I'm so happy to see Jung people talking about ides about philosophical problems. I just love it. The should be way more people like you guys.
I hope you will keep this going.
Greetings from Germany
I almost always dream in 3rd person; it's like I no longer exist, I usually do not know the people either. Very odd! It's rare for me to dream in 1st person.
Anyways, loved this video! Almost finished with it, love to see more
This needs to become a series ❤️
I just started watching you both 3 days ago and wow these videos are amazing keep up the amazing work I love both of y’all
I've had lots of dreams in the third person. It's quite common actually. It's like you are watching a psychedelic nonsensical movie. Sometimes I'm even in the dream but I'm seeing myself in the third person, from different angles and can't exactly control what I do.
"...Its worse than nihilism..."
best way to end a conversation.
👉🏻"C R A F T"👉🏻
After I watched all videos of exurb1a I found this channel: I have to watch them all too :D
I watched all and I enjoyed every second of it
Lovely guys, lovely conversation
What a lovely, uplifting conversation about very insignificant matter like consciousness and free will.