The M2 MacBook Pros SLOW SSD is KILLING Performance 😡
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- Apple DOWNGRADED the SSD performance on the base M2 MacBook Pro, but how will that impact Real-World performance? We run a BUNCH of tests to find out!
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The M2's SSD is Ruining Performance - 00:00
SSD Speed Benchmarks - 0:20
Multi-tasking RAM Stress Test - 2:03
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Photoshop Photomerge Test - 4:55
Final Cut Pro Video Editing Test - 6:28
SSD File Transfer Speed Test - 8:57
Which M2 model should YOU Buy? - 10:59
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The really have zero respect for their lower-end users.
Calling a “pro” machine “low-end” is a joke in itself.
Yes, they did.
Hi Max, thanks for your thorough testing. You mention the M2 Air a couple of times in this video, and at one point you recommend that over the M2 Pro. But we don’t know all the specifics of that, right? It could suffer from the same SSD problems. Or am I missing something?
@@pkrook71 Yes, M2 Air could suffer from same SSD issue. I think his point is that it doesn't make sense to spend extra money on the M2 Pro because of the SSD issue.
What’s going to be REALLY interesting to me is the comparison between M1 & M2 MBA performance and thermals.
The cats already out the bag on that. The thermals on the m2 are baaaaaad.
This make me do not want to buy MBA. Which i already prepare to make order. Now i am waiting for your test and comparing of the mba m2.
The 8 GPU core version on the MBA might not have bad thermals.
I dont care about anything else. But for me. Ssd speed that is lower than before is Deal Breaker. Every process need ssd access.
100% interested in it.
Apple is gonna fix it in the next OS update-by making SSD access speed slower on M1…
🤣🤣🤣 so true
That’s a hardware issue. Hardware issues cannot be fixed with a software update.
Great Idea!! :)
lol well they still never did it
Dude! So true! I actually believe that, that's why I rarely update.
That’s terrible: shame on Apple for cutting corners here and releasing an inferior product 👎
@Gabriel Gledhill ??? dropped on your head as a child, or just still a child?
@Gabriel Gledhill My favorite line from people, "if I were Apple". SMH.
It already is an inferior product without the slower SSD.
@@MattChinander based on what criteria?
And raising prices on the MacBook air M2 too
A happy owner of Apple M1 MacBook Pro has just become even happier :)
It’d be interesting to know if the base model M1 MacBook AIR is faster than the base model M2 MacBook PRO. After all, the M1 Pro was very close to the M1 Air, right?
My M1 Macbook Air 512Gb scores 2950MB/s READ and 2513MB/s WRITE in BlackMagic Disk Speed Test.
It is faster than the M2 Macbook Pro and on par with the M1 Macbook Pro.
As a person still learning English i appreciate you for great clean articulation, its so easy to listen and undestand you for non-native english speaker, thank you :)
This is the first time I see a new laptop being beaten by the old one, slow SSD is a big problem for everyone
Same, a step up and a step down. Apple’s “premium” product😂
It’s actually funny that my gen 3 m.2 SSD is faster than the ssd on the new MacBook Pro. Stuff like this and a bunch of other reasons is why storage should be removable and replaceable on the new MacBooks
This is a model with a design from 2016. I'am Hardly thinking that the Air or "real" MacBook Pro, with a M2 are going to get the same slower SSD storage.
@@nickvogelius Why would it not?
@@yoshiharatoshiaki3650 This MacBook Pro M2 is an entry level product. It's new hardware in an old design and sooner or later it will be phased out. Whereas their newly designed MacBook Pro M1 and the upcoming Air, very much are expected to keep this new design for the next 4 years that Apple usually have as a time horizon for their product designs.
Nooo ! Then how could you possibly ONLY GET 1.4 Gb/s read and writes? Lol
@@huskers1278 you can take whatever apple does lying down if you want to, I for one want products to get better over time not worse
this is a good information video, thank you, do you know if the Air M2 will have the same issue?
Thanks for All of the Great Work You Guys Do! Nobody does this Level of Testing or NERDS OUT as Hard as you Guys Do!
So Happy I stuck with My Base M1 Pro : ) Paid about $1070 Brand New!!
Lol, you gotta say it right (Apple and their silly naming), the 13” Pro M1, or really any other way that differentiates it from the actual M1 Pro laptops (14” and 16”)
Yeah Apple does have some Silly Naming conveniotions but Great Products lol
nobody else is doing the testing right? th-cam.com/video/QmIcFWu0US0/w-d-xo.html
I've bought my base model M1 MacBook Pro brand new in February this year. It's more than sufficient for my usage. It should, hardware willing, run for years to come.
@@Mehwhatevr Me too and the SSD space. With all my programs installed I've got 165 gig left but I'll just use an external drive for for space.
Let's be real here. 8GB ram and 250GBs of ssd are not the specs of a "pro" machine nowadays. Even the office configs we are getting here have 16GB Ram and 512 GB ssd. These new "M2" laptops are just flatout jokes. No, there is no "optimization" (=bull$sh1t) exists that makes up for such a difference.
Apple always puts the minimum spec items in so they can charge you to upgrade to what it should have been.
Yup. My friend has a m1 MacBook Air, and 8gb ram just isn’t enough for him. And he’s only A STUDENT! My 14 inch base mbp has been very good to me though. It has 16gb ram. On your point about optimization, there is some level of that with MacBooks, but its not enough to make up for the discrepancy. With swap, it only goes from 8gb to like realistically 10.
@@aneeshramakrishnan1958 A student means he likely needs powerful hardware if its compsci, modelling or similar
@@davidkorcak He is not a compsci major. And besides, a m1 Mac SHOULD be able to handle it. The m1 is good, the ram just isn’t enough for him.
Yeah, and then they’ll church like 300 for 8GB RAM and another 300 for 256GB of storage. That’s just crazy.
You’re better off sticking with the M1 from 2 years ago. It’s incredible that this is such a cheap crappy downgrade for no reason other than the most valuable company in the world cutting corners that hilariously negates any benefit of the improved processor they have been championing.
And yet we keep reading comments (like Rene Applologist Ritchie, timestamp 1:37) justyifing such behavior.
Apple, the trillion dollar company, is cheaping out 10 bucks in a $1300 machine and people are justifying them. Crazy world.
@@andyH_England the issue is with 256gb ssd models, 512gb and up apparently dont suffer from the slower ssd speeds
@@AlejandroLZuvic I'm not the only one then who thinks this :), that Rene Ritchie is always there to try and justify crappy decisions by the worlds biggest mega corp.
No reason? There is one reson: Sell , its all marketing , after all M2 its just an iteration of M1 , shame that Apple put slow ssd
Given the memory leaks present in recent MacOS releases, this will be a bigger problem than many expect.
What? Where is this coming from?
@@lucasbim this is scam, be careful.
Has nothing to do with SSD performance, don’t be a dunce
@@TimeSpace1 could if swap memory is being used. Idk anything about it but it’s theoretically possible.
LINUSTECHTIPS is going to have a field trip with this lmaoooooooooooooooooo
I'd be curious to know what the breakpoint is in the BTO options to fill that other set of lands with a chip.
I want the M2, i already ordered but 8gb/1TB, midnight. Do you think will be ok? I am planning to buy a clear case.
Is there any info yet on the SSD configuration in the new Air? I frankly don't mind 256GB, as I do most of what I do in the cloud, but I don't want much slower storage.
Great helpful piece of reporting here. Thank you! Would you expect the 16GB M2 spec be similarly slower thank the M1? Thanks?
Great videos guys, happy i found your channel and you!
Thanks for giving us all the info we need!!🤗
Will this be applicable to the air too?
Thanks for the Reviews.
Thanks a bunch for this eye-opener. Great job 😎
Will MacBook M2 Air come with same setup ? Also is it the problem only with 256 SSD and not with 512 or above storage options . Thanks
Thanks for the video man.
thanks, looking forward to the next video.
Great information!!
Based on the results I have already seen for the 13 pro M2 is a no go. Apple wants you to upgrade to bigger SSD and more ram, which makes it incompetent to MacBook Pro 14. I believe Apple intentionally chose to slow down the M2, not to affect the 14 base model sales. So, it is a marketing think. Stay away.
@@The_MEMEphis I was meant the base 14 M1 Pro (8c cpu). If we see real test results from an M2 with larger SSD, maybe it will come very close to the 14 inch M1 Pro performance. The benchmarks, shows small gap in the multi core performance between 13 and 14 MacBook Pro.
Its same 5nm node as M1. You cant make it 50%faster.
The real question is if the m2 MacBook air will have this downgrade too
This is also my concern, I was going to preorder the 256gb m2 mba, but now I will wait for the reviews to confirm which models dont have a crippled ssd.
@@x3ko777 same
@@x3ko777 same
So at what storage configuration do you get a second nand chip? And on the carry over m1 configs into 2022, I wonder if they went to a single nand chip design also. This will prevent me from going to m2. No reason if my m1 is about as fast or faster in many daily operational scenarios. I think that on smaller notebooks like this , you have more small bursty file open / close activities - where the faster ssd would benefit more than the proc upgrade.
Thanks for this!
Is this happening only on the base model? What happens if you upgrade to 16/512?
Does the same issue happen with base model Mac Studio ? (512Go)
what about the ssd's in the non binned version? Like 2 terabytes or 1 tera byte?
I love how in depth you guys go to bring us the most info!!!
Interesting content as always !
I noticed you're on 12.5 beta on the M1 and the M2 is on 12.4. 12.5 beta 4 was released to allow the M2 chips to run the 12.5 beta. Curious if there are any improvements (likely marginal) and optimizations in that since 12.4 was released before these chips were announced (5/16/22).
I dont think so, the thing is yuo need the hardware to do the things
helpful information.
When Apple makes differences in the build, they should state these kind of things so people know really what they are getting, instead of getting ripped off by not being told thinking they are getting the same stuff other than the difference in buy options they list.
The “higher end” models with more ssd capacity like 512gb or 1tb are slower as well?
great work
This should make the news. Absolutely absurd
are you able to do a review comparing m1 air and m2 pro? thanks!
Thanks for the great video.
It would be nice to see M2 two with dual ssd and then compare it to M1
In your opinion should I get the m1 macbook air w 16gbs of ram and 512 ssd or m2 macbook air w 16gbs of ram and only 256 ssd?
How important speed wise is the internal SSD size when doing all editing on external drives. Also, is editing on external drives over time actually saving on internals SSD life. Answers I expect would be similar for Macbooks and Mac Mini/Studios.
I do not know much about MAc OS, if possible disable 'swap' befor benchmarking.
Great review
really good work!
Thank you for all the efforts you guys put into investigating Apple’s claims. The M series devices are pretty great, why’d they have to get greedy and cheap out on us with this. So disappointing
Does the M2 Macbook Air have the same SSD installed?? One thing i love about M1pro and M1max is definitely the oustanding SSD speed....
I think you guys did a great job with this one, you guys are showing the world what’s up about these ssd’s, and you helped out so many people honestly.
Nice video thank you
excellent work! objectivity always before praises
Amazing & Comprehensive review as always, good job
Given that users get no choice about the built-in SSD, let's hope the upcoming M2 Mac minis don't ship with such slow SSDs.
Are you going to review a maxed out version of the m2 macbook pro?
Thanks for best Review
Just NO
If you upgrade it to 16GB Ram and 512GB SSD you are very close to a 14" M1 Pro which is superior in so many different ways!
@@Mehwhatevr Waiting for the M2 Pro models for sure, but why?
To get a M2 Pro/Max model or to buy a cheaper M1 Pro/Max?
Because if im right the M2 Pro/Max wont be much of a difference to the M1 Pro/Max, only if i consider the basic M2 is still 8GB Ram im sure the M2 Pro models will be standard 16GB aswell as the M1 Pro models.
In my opinion, before apple is working on faster CPU/GPU cores... apple better make 16GB Ram the "non Pro" minimum and 32GB (for M2 Pro+) the Pro Minimum.
Same for SSD.... NAND manufactureres dont even deliver less than 256GB chips anymore, mostly they deliver 512GB+ which means... APPLE, ITS TIME TO GIVE THE CUSTOMERS MORE SSD! 1TB absolute minimum (like 2x 512GB chips for fast speed), probably in the worst case a non Pro Machine with a single 512GB chip.
@@Mehwhatevr Im even thinking Apple wont even redesign the 14/16" enclosures so except for a M2 Pro/Max Upgrade we wont see much of a difference to the "old" M1 Pro/Max machines.
Will the macbook air with m2 have the same problem?
Quick question: Does System Report produce the exact Device Name for the SSD on Apple Silicon Macs? It would be nice if buyers could easily identify a system built with just one NAND chip without having to run a benchmark, especially in the future second-hand market.
Does the new base 16 MacBook also come with the Slower SSD?
Love your video and content so much！
Do you think the same reduction in ssd speeds will be on the macbook air m2?
Most likely.. if they are trying to save money on the pros I could only imagine why they WOULDN’T try and save money on an item that cost even less
does m2 mb air have the same issue?
Well you mentioned to choose m2 air even more so now, but still can’t be sure what’s the ssd used for air m2
Wow.. what a detailed analysis..
Wow that does suck. What’s sucks more is how they configured the base models to get that low performance.
You guys make great content. Thanks for making this video
So, the SSD on my 2018 TB MBP at 1600+ / 2600+ is twice as fast as a new MBP M2 on reads
Apple's really taking the piss !
Can you get the 1TB variant please ?
great comparison
Interesting. Does the m2 air also have this issue?
Hmm, seems like Deshaun Watson has now moved on to doing internet scams based on the other reply to this comment.
Great video!!!
Great Video !!
hey man, you are doing a great job! simple, honest and straight forward.
Is there any chance these sub-par SSDs could be the result of supply chain issues and they're being fitted in not just the new M2s but also the M1s as well? Might be worth ordering another made-to-order M1 just to check
great update
Thanks for your amazona reviews.
This M2 MBP will possibly go down in history as the worst MacBook of all time.
M2 Chip sucks!!!!
@@cameronbosch1213 You’re right, hard to beat that legendary one.
@@BassAnywhere hard enough to beat the 12-inch retina MacBooks?
That’s a bit of a stretch since it’s so usable. But it is a very clear example of how little regard Apple has for its user base and continually gives those seeking to save money the worst price/performance ratios they can short of getting sued for it. Anyone looking to save money should not be buying rom Apple. Used macs are the way to go and apple should be shamed for such tactics, they do this on so many models it should be a crime.
Not the worst, but the worst M series MacBook.
I think higher storage will have 2 chips and won’t suffer the same. But yeah, Apple cheaped out on this, and I’m sure it’s on purpose. This machine is simply the middle one that Apple ALWAYS use to lure you into the cheaper (more profitable) M2 Air or even better, go higher to the M1 Pro 14 or 16.
They’ve been doing this since Phil Schiller made it part of their DNA and every product release.
Look at the iPad Air. Its only purpose is to lure you into the Pro making it a better value. Same with iPhones.
Hey Max, another channel made a video about RTX3090 is actually more efficient per watt than M1 ultra in GPU benchmark (e.g. V-Ray, GFX, Geekbench etc). Can you also make a video about it?
I'm starting to worry about the new macbook air base model. It might have the same downgraded SSD as the M2 MBP 13 too.
So i saw that other TH-camrs we’re getting better performance on the higher SSD models. Could you do a comparison with the 512 and the m1? Also are the SSD’s in the m1 air the same as the m1 pro? Thanks 🙂👍
i second^
You all are doing truly astounding position. I truly love to watch your recordings cause, I'm interested to find out about the innovation that update regular. So thank you Max Tech for refreshing us and for the MacBook M1 give way.
By the way, can you do a comparison between the new m2 MacBook pro with larger storage and the maximum number of unified memory and the m1 imac24 inch or m1 MacBook pro?
Do you know if this only affects the 256gb ssds?
Great video as always.
How about a test on M2 MBP - 256GB vs 512GB model ?
The difference in same test setup as this video. Tq.
Hope this isn’t a problem with M2 Mac Studio down the line since I need a new Mac next year with Apple done with late 2015 intel models
nice review
I hope macbook air won't get slow ssd... Im only worrying about throttles issue
good work
If M2 macbook pro get 512 GB, it have 2 nand chip or not? if yes it faster than 1 chip or not?
unbelievable
so interesting
thanks
It seems Apple uses the RAID0 or similar mechanism on the older version of the Macbook pro.
No wonder the new version got only half of the reading/writing speed due to only one NAND chip being mounted on board.
Can anybody tell is the 1 tb m2 pro 16 inch also slower?
They made m1 way too good! That’s the problem
didn’t they stop with memory swapping after problems in the ssds in M1 macs?
No, they fixed a bug that was causing memory diagnostic programs to go nuts and report incorrect numbers.