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I do not think I have ever made a hardware comparison based on how quick a web app refreshes a pic on a screen. That has absolutely bugged all to do with the systems since the user has the same bottle neck on wifi. Apart from that, what are the lane speeds etc. thermal ok one is hotter, but hotter is not always a bad thing. Nvme from Samsung for example performance increases with moderate heat compared to colder. Cores, sure nice but workload in real case different from benchmarks. I mean it is horses for courses. Take an intel nic and the typical onboard. Is there crc offloading, what about ram, is it ecc there are too many variables based on use case for this type of review.
Yes, you convinced me to pay $2950 in AUS Dollars on a 2022 MacBook Air. Thanks Max and Vadim 😅 -16 GB of Unified memory because 8GB can slow the system as the OS can fill it up quickly. -1TB because I first wanted the full ssd speed and second because I needed the extra storage anyway. I won’t be upgrading for at least 7 years so at least it makes up for the hefty price
After watching some other channels for some reviews, I stopped half way through and said "I'll just wait for Max Tech's in depth review". Truly you guys go deep in reviews with good quality number comparisons.
I’m definitely happy with my 14” M1 Pro. Your original analysis convinced me over the M2 Air, and I’m glad to see that mine has better speakers and ssd in the end.
I just watched the M2 Max vs NEW Intel 13th Gen i9 w/ RTX 4090 and I have the M1 Pro, the M2 Max was slower in blender renders than the M1 Pro. I also much prefered the speakers in the M1 Pro.
@@sam_9228 Display, speaker, keyboard and the Trackpad, are four very important parameters for a laptop and the experience you can expect to get from using it.
Last year m1 pro was so good that this minor upgrades don't even matter. I'm considering upgrading my laptop for video editing jobs and this comparison helps a lot, thank you!!
@@jan_phd I do not. I currently have a 2019 I9 MacBook Pro but am waiting for the M3 Max MacBook Pro to launch. I was held back a little bit because I use a couple windows apps in parallels but now that Microsoft officially supports Windows 11 on Arm on a Mac with Parallels the path should be clear for me. I am also expecting some significant gains when the M3 chips arrives.
The quality of your comparisons is unmatched. You go into every little detail which makes understanding the differences between two devices a breeze and perfect to decide which one is better and which you should consider buying.
Makes perfectly sense. Apple played safe on the M1 to not risk anything and with the experience now they are pushing the boundaries and reducing cost which isn't always the best choice in my opinion. Glad I have the M1 Model
You guys are revealing the hidden advantages of both generations which no other reviewers are doing, and enabling non tech savvy people like me to understand! The SSD difference is shocking! I guess the graphics does make up for it somewhat, I am intrigued to see what you guys have to say about the larger m2 pros 🤗
Another great video! Unlike other channels, you guys give a thorough comparison of the pros/cons, and internals rather than just listing the new specs. Often new specs (on paper) aren’t necessarily better in action.
Man this is some amazing coverage of the new macs. Not finding anything like it anywhere else. I’m always coming back to you guys. Keep up the great work.
I think the SSD difference will play a huge role given that most people buying the 14 and 16 MBP are power users that require multitasking a lot. But the battery life improvement is 👍. Thanks for the informative comparison yet again.
I did the same your export test with 14" Macbook Pro M2 Pro 10-core CPU 16-core GPU, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD. Same color correction as you, with LUT, color wheels, color board (and some other effects). 5 min 4k (from Panasonic GH5), export in ProRes 422: 51 sec (25% faster than the result you got with M1 Pro). I repeated this several times (51 sec, 50, sec, 51 sec). So I have to deduce that either you have an M2 Pro version with some problems or the M2 Pro chip has been optimized with some updates in last months.
open a lot of chrom tabs and used almost run out of RAM and you will see the result because apple used two 256GB NAND chips in the M2 Pro 512GB MBP.Writes are 20% slower and reads are 40% slower than M1 PRO
@@metachain5345 At the agency, I have used the base model MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip and the base model with the M2 Pro chip equally over the past year, mainly for video editing (and Photoshop) for work... not once has the M2 Pro been slower. They’ve probably optimized some things with updates, but there is a performance difference in favor of the M2 Pro, even with the less performant NAND.
These benchmarks are a gem, and your analysis helps a lot with my purchasing decision. Sucks to see the slower ssd and higher temps on the newer m2 pro. Definitely didn't know about these issues before your video.
@@robertoavalosjr.2529 M1 Pro can be had now for 400 bucks cheaper, better speakers, runs 10 degrees cooler and double SSD performance. Apple nerfed the m2 Pro on purpose to squeeze save a few extra cents. The m2 is a new generation so it should obviously be better but for them to do this is absolutely disgusting. Glad I saved and went for the m1 pro.
@@itsasadbunny the speakers are hardly noticeable difference tbh. and running 10 degrees cooler isnt ever really noticeable either unless on your lap, which no1 would really be running intensive programs on their lap anyway. the only actual important downside of the M2 imo is the SSD read/write speeds. Beyond that the M2 is definitely the better computer. For anyone in the market for a Macbook pro rn that hasn't had apple M silicon yet, the M2 is the best choice (even if you can get a refurbished M1 for $400 cheaper). M2 pro has the better camera, all around better wifi, better bluetooth and HDMI, better battery life, and of course faster cpu and graphics. Plus its over a year newer so will have apple updates longer.
You Guys (Max Tech) never fails to impress with your thorough and informative reviews. Your team's attention to detail and ability to provide valuable insights is unmatched, making your content a go-to for anyone considering a new tech purchase. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see what you guys come up with next!
Thank you for the detailed review. A small suggestion: It would be helpful to start off the video with the configurations for the macs you're comparing. Which CPU + GPU + SSD + RAM model you're comparing.
I love how much you go in to detail with your reviews, I have the 14 M1 Pro and I don't see enough differences to consider the upgrade. Instead the slower SSD makes me prefer my M1. Great video guys!
That was an impressive review. I decided to go with M1 Pro 1TB 10 core cpu 16 gpu instead of basic 512GB M2 pro. The price is literally the same in my region for these two models
I appreciated the comparison of the M2 to previous Macbook M1 Pro models. It helped me to better understand the difference between them. The reviewer's honest comparison gave me a realistic idea of what to expect from the device. The video comparison is well-researched as usually and provided valuable information on the product. Much love
You guys have one of the best tech review channels. Whenever I need a comparison between devices, I always check your channel and it never disappoints!! 🙏🏻 Thank you for your hard work and testing!
Always appreciate the Blender test. I still use i9 2018 MacBook which made me deliver a lot of well paid projects. Travelling with this laptop has been a breeze and I just love it. I plan to upgrade eventually, maybe M3 Max. Should be an excellent upgrade!
Thank you for understanding your audience and benchmarking different uses and not just synthetic scores. I'll be looking forward to the video comparing xcode on both machines!
When I watched some other channels for some reviews, I stopped halfway through and said, "I'll wait for Max Tech's in-depth review". Truly you guys go deep in reviews with good-quality number comparisons.
Happy to see the comparison soon after M2 Pro launch and you guys are miles ahead of others. On SSD speeds, although I am surprised to see a slower speed on M2 Pro, I don't it matters much as there are no apps out there that can hit 3GB/s mark. While the M2 Pro is certainly more powerful, deals on M1 Pro makes it even more VFM and hence I got M1 Pro couple of days ago. Very happy with the performance when compared to i5 13" MacBook Pro and M2 Air that I am currently have. Cheers!
@@alexanderpadden6498 base 14" MBP is on Apple's refurb store at $1539. The new M2 base is ~30% more expensive so me thinks 2021 MBP refurb'd is great VFM.
Back when the M2 MBA came out, your reviews made me look for a base model MBP 14” instead. Which is great! And now you show me that my Mac feels like a better deal than the new M2 Pros as well. Thanks for all your help!
Those M2 chips are certainly more power hungry! Thank you guys for the super detailed analysis/comparison. It’s a shame that Apple keeps giving only one nand chip for the base models of their computers. If they can still squeeze a little more performance with the same 5nm process, I wonder what they’ll achieve when they switch to 3nm 😱
Wow, what a comprehensive and informative comparison video! Max Tech has done an incredible job of breaking down the differences between the M1 Pro and M2 Pro 14” MacBook Pro models, and providing viewers with all the information they need to make an informed decision when purchasing one of these powerful machines. From the detailed benchmarks and performance tests, to the analysis of key features like battery life, thermals, and display quality, Max Tech has left no stone unturned in this ultimate comparison. As someone who is in the market for a new MacBook Pro, this video has been incredibly helpful in understanding the differences between these two models and which one might be the best fit for my needs. Thank you Max Tech for this amazing content - keep up the great work!
As a designer I appreciate you guys adding the fig a part. I currently have an m1 pro 16” and have been considering downsizing to the 14”. It seems like just getting a 14” m1 will be just fine and I won’t be missing out if I don’t get an m2… that said, I’d love to still win one 😅
I have always loved your side by side comparisons and how much detail you put into them. You have helped me make so many decisions for my purchases. Great video as always!
My first Mac was a Mac Plus with a 20 MB Hard Drive, 1 MB of RAM, an ImageWriter printer, plus Aldus PageMaker and Microsoft Works. It cost $10,000. Love to have one of these!
Regarding the battery % difference mentioned @8:00, unless the 2021 M1 Pro model is a brand new, and never used unit, it cannot be compared to the new M2 Pro. IMO for completeness and fairness you could/should have shown the battery info data from both devices (for example using Coconutbattery or other tools). Cheers!
Yeah that was my concern too. The 14in M1 Pro is likely going to have some battery wear and tear that the M2 Pro model just won't have and that will effect battery life
As usual, a fantastic video. Also, I'd like to mention how consistent your comparison tests are, which makes it reliable and useful as a reference for newer models. Keep up the good work, guys.
I snagged a 14” M1 a 4 or so months ago from Costco at a $350-ish discount and couldn’t be happier. I run Creative Suite primarily and it screams compared to my 2019 27” iMac with 40 GB of RAM.
I would love to see two things: if this slow ssd problem comes only with the base models or if the ssd are different. Also, would love to see every test that can be made with mac mini m1 pro. Even compare it with the macbook. I’m very curious to say the least. Love your hard all the way geeky tests!
Always love looking at the mac internals. They look sleeker with black overalls. Kinda like a city by itself. With regards to the heat sinks, that's really strange shrinking the size down even with a higher-performance chip like the M2. Wonder if switching to the larger heat sink on the older M1 macbook pro, would help with temperature management.
Helped me decide to save myself the money on my first Macbook and grab a 14" 2021 Macbook Pro with M1 Pro. For what I'm doing definitely don't need to spend the extra cash just yet.
I gotta say, you guys do such a great job. you do the tests that I am interested in not the standard benchmarking that are whatevs. You guys also present this in a way that shows that your open to different tech like Apple, Samsung, etc. and don't come off as an Apple fanboy. I love all tech... and whatever does the tasks that are near and dear to my heart better is usually what I go with, I don't care who makes it. So again, great job fellas!
Great review of the new Mac Pro M2 and the M1. In the fall I needed a new computer and went with the M1Pro because I could not wait for the M2's to come out. I don't see enough differences that would impact what I use it for. Thanks again for breaking the comparison down into many useful parts.
Thank you for all the hard work! These comparison reviews are the best decision guides when purchasing the MacBooks. Been debating between a refurb unit or the new M2. Glad to say after months of debate, your analysis helped in my final decision!!
Hello, I like how you do the comparison. That helps a lot. But I think If testing CPU & GPU together. the result of M2pro shouldn't be that bad. Also, for the writing & reading speed, it also depends on whether the disk for transferring is SSD or not. If not, it shouldn't have much difference comparing to M1pro & M2pro chip. especially the SSD disk is much more expensive than the regular one tho. But yea, Apple is obviously saving the cost to make more profit, and not surprised with this, since it's Tim Cook... and it's also very possible that they're even have quality difference with the same size of 512GB SSD on different levels of the new MacBook Pro. who knows? Based on the global situation, the inflation rate, USA interest rate, and so on, people in USA are lucky, they still get the same price, but not for people from other countries. and if their sales drop this year due to the price increased globally, won't be a surprise, either. and even in the future, and of course, overall, they shouldn't increase the price for other countries at all, especially when they're basically just upgrade the chip for M2Pro which probably not even much better than M1pro since they're both 5nm from TSMC even M2pro is the 2nd generation which mostly just help to improve the battery life. But it seems like Apple designs the M2Pro model to put GPU on the priority for workload. So, for people who only use it for normal tasks, shouldn’t have too much benefit from that. As for the 16GB memory that’s divided by 4GBx4pcs like on those articles say, I didn’t see you show it on the video, is it possible that you can also make a video of that to prove if it’s true ? As for the question, if people should buy the new MacBook Pro with M2pro chip or not. I think, the price, the speed are not the only main reasons for me tho. I’d also put the quality control into consideration. Especially with the global economic situation like I’d mentioned above, also the labour cost, the shipping cost are needed to be considered as well. I really doubt that Tim Cook would really put the quality first, and profit next. This is not the first time that Apple keep asking suppliers to lower the price. And TSMC is def going to increase the price, that’s for sure. And for the long-term, it’s very possible that they will lose a lot of profit for just manufacturing in USA. Like there’s a saying, There's no such thing as a free lunch. When Apple make suppliers to lower the price, of course, they eventually will agree cause they don’t wanna lose such a big client. But then, the quality will definitely be an issue. And I think, we already seen that for the products that are released in 2022. I personally would purchase at least 4units for the exact same models for comparison. For the M1pro MacBook Pro, I noticed that, for the keyboard, the F key, has an issue, that 3 of the models are more loose. Only one of them are tight. And you can hear the difference with the sound when you type. And for the coating, if you comparing with previous old models, they already change the way they do the coating. And you can see the details when you do the comparison in the sunlight, and indoor, then with the flashlight. I think it’s possible because of the environmental friendly reason. Same as the glasses nowadays. If you buy a metal like aluminum glasses, the frame will easily have Color-off issue if contacted with the skin or sweat. Cause they’re now only do 2 layers of coating instead of 4 layers like in the past. and since Apple’s other iPad and MacBook Air have coating scratch off issue like on those news, it’s possible due to the coating layers. Anyway, Tim Cook, once again, don’t forget where he’s coming from. Hahaha he def put profit for priority , that’s for sure. So, I suggest people who really wanna buy Apple’s products, not just only comparing the tech, but also better to put the quality for long-term into consideration as well. Thank you for reading my such long long comment. Have a nice day !
So glad I got the M1 Pro 14 inch on sale. New. Sealed packed. For the price of similarly spec-ed M2 Air. When the test started and we went to speakers first, I thought okay, M2 will have marginally better speakers but boom! I was confused if the left one was newer cause the M1 sounded clearly better. Then the most important part. The SSDs. I knew I was anyway gonna buy the base model, whether M1 or M2 so it doesn't matter if SSD speeds match on a 2TB config. It matters for me on the base model and specially with 16GB RAM, I am way better of for my work flow which is RAM heavy with these double speed SSDs on base model. And CPU and GPU differences were insignificant considering what I have is already extreme. Battery life, the difference I feel is even lower than what we got in the test as M1 macbook is older and battery health decreases even though not much but at least 2-3% in a year so _M1 Pro is still the _*_beast_*
Needed to watch this… been looking at the M2’s since they dropped! This has just proven to me that there’s not a significant change since the M1… especially for what I’d be using it for. Just got to save my money now for a new laptop 🙏🏻 thank you for the extensive review guys!
I am confident that I made the right choice in going with the M1-Pro, and I am grateful to have had the opportunity to review your thorough and insightful comparison. I appreciate your commitment to providing the most detailed and accurate information, and I am so glad I followed your advice. Many thanks.
Wow! This video makes the decision between M1 and M2 much easier. Love the comprehensive analysis and in-depth testing with standard benchmarks. Thank you.
I also noticed the huge difference in read/write speeds in the 512GB SSD compared to the M1. Question, does that difference carry over to the 1TB drives as well?
I really appreciate your comparison videos. As a person who doesn’t understand a lot about tech, your videos are really helpful and I can actually understand what you’re talking about. ❤
Thank you for the thorough review. I am looking for a MacBook Pro for my son and have been considering the M1 Pro and the M2 Pro He will a first year Graphics Design major. After watching your review I will be pursuing the M1 Pro. I cannot justify the significant price increase for the M2 Pro. I feel the M1 will be more than sufficient for him.
First, I love your thorough comparisons. They were instrumental in my choosing which Air, and then which Pro I should buy. Ultimately, I chose to buy an upgraded version of the M2 MacBook Air, and then a brand new M1 Pro, also upgraded, foregoing the M2 Pro MacBook Pro .I was able to find good deals on both. I wanted to let you know, though, that your math is off, on all your comparisons. I thought it sounded funky, so I did the math, myself, and you consistently inflated the difference, between the machines, by 3 or 4 %. The real numbers were exactly what Apple stated. If you need a math lesson, on how to figure out percentages, hit this gal up!
Can any of these newer systems be upgraded with bigger SSD's in the future? Also, is the magsafe on both units? If not, what kind of power source specific to each?
I bought the M2 Pro after a personal comparison with the M1 Pro. It's much faster, in video-photo editing and in 3D. This also with the 512GB SSD version, which is now also refurbished. I bought it new for €500 less than the Apple site. Evidently M2 Pro 6 months ago is not the same one you buy now
Amazingly detailed comparison as always. I'm very happy with my M1 Max which I chose after following your reviews closely. No regrets after watching this. Thank you.
I always watch your reviews because you guys talk about so many details about the product and honestly tell the difference which helps the consumer to choose wisely. keep it up!
I just bought a 14 M2 Pro, not by choice but because I broke the screen on my 14 M1 Pro. I have noticed the M2 Pro runs way hotter than the M1 Pro. The M1 Pro never had any temperature, the M2 Pro heats up even when doing basic Xcode builds now. The battery life is also considerably worse when running Xcode builds, perhaps 20-30% worse or more. I was wondering if I was just crazy but this video explains a lot. I will certainly be returning this computer and looking into repairing the screen on my M1 pro instead. Wow.
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Do you know the SSD config in 1 TB models?
Definitely a problem for a 2k$ device💀
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone go in with that much detail. Only buy my products based on your reviews. Thank you
Same for me! This is the kind of review I was looking for!
I do not think I have ever made a hardware comparison based on how quick a web app refreshes a pic on a screen. That has absolutely bugged all to do with the systems since the user has the same bottle neck on wifi. Apart from that, what are the lane speeds etc. thermal ok one is hotter, but hotter is not always a bad thing. Nvme from Samsung for example performance increases with moderate heat compared to colder. Cores, sure nice but workload in real case different from benchmarks. I mean it is horses for courses. Take an intel nic and the typical onboard. Is there crc offloading, what about ram, is it ecc there are too many variables based on use case for this type of review.
Don't ever watch a review from non tech geek/expert
Yes, you convinced me to pay $2950 in AUS Dollars on a 2022 MacBook Air. Thanks Max and Vadim 😅
-16 GB of Unified memory because 8GB can slow the system as the OS can fill it up quickly.
-1TB because I first wanted the full ssd speed and second because I needed the extra storage anyway. I won’t be upgrading for at least 7 years so at least it makes up for the hefty price
Absolutely 💯 ❤
After watching some other channels for some reviews, I stopped half way through and said "I'll just wait for Max Tech's in depth review". Truly you guys go deep in reviews with good quality number comparisons.
same here :D
Totally true, I felt the same!
fr like how did nobody not mention the camera quality wtf
Swears! They really help in deciding what configuration to go with.
You guys are so far beyond other tech reviewers for product releases. Thank you for the comprehensive reviews
I’m definitely happy with my 14” M1 Pro. Your original analysis convinced me over the M2 Air, and I’m glad to see that mine has better speakers and ssd in the end.
I just watched the M2 Max vs NEW Intel 13th Gen i9 w/ RTX 4090 and I have the M1 Pro, the M2 Max was slower in blender renders than the M1 Pro. I also much prefered the speakers in the M1 Pro.
Who buys a laptop for its speakers? LMAO
M1 Pro is slower single core than M2 Air though. Less of an advantage overall, depending on what you're doing.
@@abc123fhdi but it won’t perform better if you don’t upgrade the storage as well, as the read/write on the base Air is lower speed memory
@@sam_9228 Display, speaker, keyboard and the Trackpad, are four very important parameters for a laptop and the experience you can expect to get from using it.
Last year m1 pro was so good that this minor upgrades don't even matter. I'm considering upgrading my laptop for video editing jobs and this comparison helps a lot, thank you!!
You guys still provide the most extensive coverage on the new Macs. Great job. Keep it up. Love the detailed analysis.
So you buy a new Mac everytime they come out?
@@jan_phd I do not. I currently have a 2019 I9 MacBook Pro but am waiting for the M3 Max MacBook Pro to launch. I was held back a little bit because I use a couple windows apps in parallels but now that Microsoft officially supports Windows 11 on Arm on a Mac with Parallels the path should be clear for me. I am also expecting some significant gains when the M3 chips arrives.
The quality of your comparisons is unmatched. You go into every little detail which makes understanding the differences between two devices a breeze and perfect to decide which one is better and which you should consider buying.
Makes perfectly sense. Apple played safe on the M1 to not risk anything and with the experience now they are pushing the boundaries and reducing cost which isn't always the best choice in my opinion. Glad I have the M1 Model
You guys are revealing the hidden advantages of both generations which no other reviewers are doing, and enabling non tech savvy people like me to understand! The SSD difference is shocking! I guess the graphics does make up for it somewhat, I am intrigued to see what you guys have to say about the larger m2 pros 🤗
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Another great video! Unlike other channels, you guys give a thorough comparison of the pros/cons, and internals rather than just listing the new specs. Often new specs (on paper) aren’t necessarily better in action.
Always loved your side by side comparisons and how much detail you put into them. Never seen any other TH-cam channel go into so much depth.
Would be nice to see the benchmarks run on the M1 and M2 at the same clock speeds. See how much of an improvement to M2 actually is.
Man this is some amazing coverage of the new macs. Not finding anything like it anywhere else. I’m always coming back to you guys. Keep up the great work.
I think the SSD difference will play a huge role given that most people buying the 14 and 16 MBP are power users that require multitasking a lot. But the battery life improvement is 👍. Thanks for the informative comparison yet again.
The difference in blender is impressive. As someone who does a lot of 3d rendering, it would be beneficial
I did the same your export test with 14" Macbook Pro M2 Pro 10-core CPU 16-core GPU, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD. Same color correction as you, with LUT, color wheels, color board (and some other effects).
5 min 4k (from Panasonic GH5), export in ProRes 422: 51 sec (25% faster than the result you got with M1 Pro).
I repeated this several times (51 sec, 50, sec, 51 sec).
So I have to deduce that either you have an M2 Pro version with some problems or the M2 Pro chip has been optimized with some updates in last months.
open a lot of chrom tabs and used almost run out of RAM and you will see the result because apple used two 256GB NAND chips in the M2 Pro 512GB MBP.Writes are 20% slower and reads are 40% slower than M1 PRO
@@metachain5345 At the agency, I have used the base model MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip and the base model with the M2 Pro chip equally over the past year, mainly for video editing (and Photoshop) for work... not once has the M2 Pro been slower. They’ve probably optimized some things with updates, but there is a performance difference in favor of the M2 Pro, even with the less performant NAND.
These benchmarks are a gem, and your analysis helps a lot with my purchasing decision. Sucks to see the slower ssd and higher temps on the newer m2 pro. Definitely didn't know about these issues before your video.
Only 2° difference and more battery life and faster performance, I think m2 speaks by its own
@@robertoavalosjr.2529 M1 Pro can be had now for 400 bucks cheaper, better speakers, runs 10 degrees cooler and double SSD performance. Apple nerfed the m2 Pro on purpose to squeeze save a few extra cents. The m2 is a new generation so it should obviously be better but for them to do this is absolutely disgusting. Glad I saved and went for the m1 pro.
@@itsasadbunny the speakers are hardly noticeable difference tbh. and running 10 degrees cooler isnt ever really noticeable either unless on your lap, which no1 would really be running intensive programs on their lap anyway. the only actual important downside of the M2 imo is the SSD read/write speeds. Beyond that the M2 is definitely the better computer. For anyone in the market for a Macbook pro rn that hasn't had apple M silicon yet, the M2 is the best choice (even if you can get a refurbished M1 for $400 cheaper). M2 pro has the better camera, all around better wifi, better bluetooth and HDMI, better battery life, and of course faster cpu and graphics. Plus its over a year newer so will have apple updates longer.
@@JamesJDMoe you really want to excuse Apple screwing up their customers again, don't you?
@@rafadydkiemmacha7543 you really wanna overexaggerate the issue don't you? Lol
Man… this is why I love your channel! You go into details no one else does! Everyone else just cares about pushing out their videos the earliest.
You Guys (Max Tech) never fails to impress with your thorough and informative reviews. Your team's attention to detail and ability to provide valuable insights is unmatched, making your content a go-to for anyone considering a new tech purchase. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see what you guys come up with next!
Thank you for the detailed review. A small suggestion: It would be helpful to start off the video with the configurations for the macs you're comparing. Which CPU + GPU + SSD + RAM model you're comparing.
I love how much you go in to detail with your reviews, I have the 14 M1 Pro and I don't see enough differences to consider the upgrade. Instead the slower SSD makes me prefer my M1. Great video guys!
That was an impressive review. I decided to go with M1 Pro 1TB 10 core cpu 16 gpu instead of basic 512GB M2 pro. The price is literally the same in my region for these two models
So do you have to order 1Tb to avoid getting just one slow nand chip?
@@pauljazzman408 Yes on the M2. Any M1 has two, even the base models.
A wonderful review! You guys never fail to make a quality video and provide a more in-depth review than any other tech channel.
I appreciated the comparison of the M2 to previous Macbook M1 Pro models. It helped me to better understand the difference between them. The reviewer's honest comparison gave me a realistic idea of what to expect from the device. The video comparison is well-researched as usually and provided valuable information on the product. Much love
Wasn't sure what I was expecting with the M2 Pro but it makes the M1 Pro such a great deal right now 🙌 Thanks for this detailed comparison!
@@JackCarter911 I feel like there’s little difference. Maybe wait for the M3 at least 😆
I am looking forward to seeing the difference on maxed out versions! Thanks guys for the great work!
You guys have one of the best tech review channels. Whenever I need a comparison between devices, I always check your channel and it never disappoints!! 🙏🏻 Thank you for your hard work and testing!
Always appreciate the Blender test. I still use i9 2018 MacBook which made me deliver a lot of well paid projects. Travelling with this laptop has been a breeze and I just love it. I plan to upgrade eventually, maybe M3 Max. Should be an excellent upgrade!
Thank you for understanding your audience and benchmarking different uses and not just synthetic scores.
I'll be looking forward to the video comparing xcode on both machines!
Must say you guys go a lot further and deeper than most of the other well-known tech reviewers! Keep up the good work 👏
When I watched some other channels for some reviews, I stopped halfway through and said, "I'll wait for Max Tech's in-depth review". Truly you guys go deep in reviews with good-quality number comparisons.
These tests continue to fascinate me! Keep up the great work!
Also appreciate seeing the Figma test!
Insane level of effort put into these episodes. It’s a pleasure to watch your videos. Great work guys!
Happy to see the comparison soon after M2 Pro launch and you guys are miles ahead of others. On SSD speeds, although I am surprised to see a slower speed on M2 Pro, I don't it matters much as there are no apps out there that can hit 3GB/s mark.
While the M2 Pro is certainly more powerful, deals on M1 Pro makes it even more VFM and hence I got M1 Pro couple of days ago. Very happy with the performance when compared to i5 13" MacBook Pro and M2 Air that I am currently have. Cheers!
Hey Jay any deals you can share? I'm looking for the same.
@@zanettialvaro Same, let me know if you find them too!
@@alexanderpadden6498 base 14" MBP is on Apple's refurb store at $1539. The new M2 base is ~30% more expensive so me thinks 2021 MBP refurb'd is great VFM.
@@dentheplodder FYI: I just looked and I can only find 14" MBP w/16GB and 1TB SSD for £1839... Nice configuration, too much money...
@@kjbarth007 yeah, they weren't on the UK (where I'm based) store for long. Matter of days and then gone.
Edit: They were selling for £1459
here ever since max yuryev channel! love to see you grow a lot!
Back when the M2 MBA came out, your reviews made me look for a base model MBP 14” instead. Which is great! And now you show me that my Mac feels like a better deal than the new M2 Pros as well. Thanks for all your help!
Those M2 chips are certainly more power hungry! Thank you guys for the super detailed analysis/comparison. It’s a shame that Apple keeps giving only one nand chip for the base models of their computers. If they can still squeeze a little more performance with the same 5nm process, I wonder what they’ll achieve when they switch to 3nm 😱
Aside from being clocked higher they have 2 extra cores. TBH it would be interesting to compare the non-binned 10 core m1 pro vs the 10-core binned m2
@@PolCmara waiting on that review
Beautiful machines , the power and the elegance they have is way up higher than other brands on the market
Wow, what a comprehensive and informative comparison video! Max Tech has done an incredible job of breaking down the differences between the M1 Pro and M2 Pro 14” MacBook Pro models, and providing viewers with all the information they need to make an informed decision when purchasing one of these powerful machines.
From the detailed benchmarks and performance tests, to the analysis of key features like battery life, thermals, and display quality, Max Tech has left no stone unturned in this ultimate comparison.
As someone who is in the market for a new MacBook Pro, this video has been incredibly helpful in understanding the differences between these two models and which one might be the best fit for my needs. Thank you Max Tech for this amazing content - keep up the great work!
As a designer I appreciate you guys adding the fig a part. I currently have an m1 pro 16” and have been considering downsizing to the 14”. It seems like just getting a 14” m1 will be just fine and I won’t be missing out if I don’t get an m2… that said, I’d love to still win one 😅
why do you want to downsize? 16 is too heavy?
@@AdulisChedoMokanan I have 16”. It is NOT too heavy. It is perfectly balanced. Perfect.
Always love seeing the videos and how much detail you put into them! Couldn’t ask for a better tech reviewer to watch. Keep up the great work!
I have always loved your side by side comparisons and how much detail you put into them. You have helped me make so many decisions for my purchases. Great video as always!
My first Mac was a Mac Plus with a 20 MB Hard Drive, 1 MB of RAM, an ImageWriter printer, plus Aldus PageMaker and Microsoft Works. It cost $10,000.
Love to have one of these!
Regarding the battery % difference mentioned @8:00, unless the 2021 M1 Pro model is a brand new, and never used unit, it cannot be compared to the new M2 Pro. IMO for completeness and fairness you could/should have shown the battery info data from both devices (for example using Coconutbattery or other tools). Cheers!
Yeah that was my concern too. The 14in M1 Pro is likely going to have some battery wear and tear that the M2 Pro model just won't have and that will effect battery life
As usual, a fantastic video. Also, I'd like to mention how consistent your comparison tests are, which makes it reliable and useful as a reference for newer models. Keep up the good work, guys.
Glad to see a comparison. I’m thinking of buying a M1 now that they’re a bit cheaper.
Just got base model m1 pro refurb and it rips. Very happy with my purchase.
Definitely a great idea
I snagged a 14” M1 a 4 or so months ago from Costco at a $350-ish discount and couldn’t be happier. I run Creative Suite primarily and it screams compared to my 2019 27” iMac with 40 GB of RAM.
I would love to see two things: if this slow ssd problem comes only with the base models or if the ssd are different. Also, would love to see every test that can be made with mac mini m1 pro. Even compare it with the macbook. I’m very curious to say the least. Love your hard all the way geeky tests!
Would have been nice to see performance comparisons between two equivalent machines in terms of cpu and GPU cores.
Second this, hopefully they can follow up with something very similar, difference then may by minute
Always love looking at the mac internals. They look sleeker with black overalls. Kinda like a city by itself. With regards to the heat sinks, that's really strange shrinking the size down even with a higher-performance chip like the M2. Wonder if switching to the larger heat sink on the older M1 macbook pro, would help with temperature management.
Helped me decide to save myself the money on my first Macbook and grab a 14" 2021 Macbook Pro with M1 Pro. For what I'm doing definitely don't need to spend the extra cash just yet.
I gotta say, you guys do such a great job. you do the tests that I am interested in not the standard benchmarking that are whatevs. You guys also present this in a way that shows that your open to different tech like Apple, Samsung, etc. and don't come off as an Apple fanboy. I love all tech... and whatever does the tasks that are near and dear to my heart better is usually what I go with, I don't care who makes it. So again, great job fellas!
Why are such useless comments? Are you a rating cheat bot?
@@yuriiabc2029 Fuck are you taking about dude? What are you like the bot police? Just an honest comment.
Great review of the new Mac Pro M2 and the M1. In the fall I needed a new computer and went with the M1Pro because I could not wait for the M2's to come out. I don't see enough differences that would impact what I use it for. Thanks again for breaking the comparison down into many useful parts.
sucker, you have less battery life than m2,
@@fitfirst4468 nah m1 pro is better lmao
@@fitfirst4468 Children
Thank you for all the hard work! These comparison reviews are the best decision guides when purchasing the MacBooks. Been debating between a refurb unit or the new M2. Glad to say after months of debate, your analysis helped in my final decision!!
How did your decision come out?
Best channel for someone looking to buy a mac.
Hello, I like how you do the comparison. That helps a lot. But I think If testing CPU & GPU together. the result of M2pro shouldn't be that bad. Also, for the writing & reading speed, it also depends on whether the disk for transferring is SSD or not. If not, it shouldn't have much difference comparing to M1pro & M2pro chip. especially the SSD disk is much more expensive than the regular one tho.
But yea, Apple is obviously saving the cost to make more profit, and not surprised with this, since it's Tim Cook...
and it's also very possible that they're even have quality difference with the same size of 512GB SSD on different levels of the new MacBook Pro. who knows? Based on the global situation, the inflation rate, USA interest rate, and so on, people in USA are lucky, they still get the same price, but not for people from other countries. and if their sales drop this year due to the price increased globally, won't be a surprise, either. and even in the future, and of course, overall, they shouldn't increase the price for other countries at all, especially when they're basically just upgrade the chip for M2Pro which probably not even much better than M1pro since they're both 5nm from TSMC even M2pro is the 2nd generation which mostly just help to improve the battery life. But it seems like Apple designs the M2Pro model to put GPU on the priority for workload. So, for people who only use it for normal tasks, shouldn’t have too much benefit from that. As for the 16GB memory that’s divided by 4GBx4pcs like on those articles say, I didn’t see you show it on the video, is it possible that you can also make a video of that to prove if it’s true ?
As for the question, if people should buy the new MacBook Pro with M2pro chip or not. I think, the price, the speed are not the only main reasons for me tho. I’d also put the quality control into consideration. Especially with the global economic situation like I’d mentioned above, also the labour cost, the shipping cost are needed to be considered as well. I really doubt that Tim Cook would really put the quality first, and profit next. This is not the first time that Apple keep asking suppliers to lower the price. And TSMC is def going to increase the price, that’s for sure. And for the long-term, it’s very possible that they will lose a lot of profit for just manufacturing in USA.
Like there’s a saying, There's no such thing as a free lunch. When Apple make suppliers to lower the price, of course, they eventually will agree cause they don’t wanna lose such a big client. But then, the quality will definitely be an issue. And I think, we already seen that for the products that are released in 2022. I personally would purchase at least 4units for the exact same models for comparison. For the M1pro MacBook Pro, I noticed that, for the keyboard, the F key, has an issue, that 3 of the models are more loose. Only one of them are tight. And you can hear the difference with the sound when you type.
And for the coating, if you comparing with previous old models, they already change the way they do the coating. And you can see the details when you do the comparison in the sunlight, and indoor, then with the flashlight.
I think it’s possible because of the environmental friendly reason. Same as the glasses nowadays. If you buy a metal like aluminum glasses, the frame will easily have Color-off issue if contacted with the skin or sweat. Cause they’re now only do 2 layers of coating instead of 4 layers like in the past. and since Apple’s other iPad and MacBook Air have coating scratch off issue like on those news, it’s possible due to the coating layers.
Anyway, Tim Cook, once again, don’t forget where he’s coming from. Hahaha he def put profit for priority , that’s for sure.
So, I suggest people who really wanna buy Apple’s products, not just only comparing the tech, but also better to put the quality for long-term into consideration as well.
Thank you for reading my such long long comment. Have a nice day !
So glad I got the M1 Pro 14 inch on sale. New. Sealed packed. For the price of similarly spec-ed M2 Air. When the test started and we went to speakers first, I thought okay, M2 will have marginally better speakers but boom! I was confused if the left one was newer cause the M1 sounded clearly better. Then the most important part. The SSDs. I knew I was anyway gonna buy the base model, whether M1 or M2 so it doesn't matter if SSD speeds match on a 2TB config. It matters for me on the base model and specially with 16GB RAM, I am way better of for my work flow which is RAM heavy with these double speed SSDs on base model. And CPU and GPU differences were insignificant considering what I have is already extreme. Battery life, the difference I feel is even lower than what we got in the test as M1 macbook is older and battery health decreases even though not much but at least 2-3% in a year so _M1 Pro is still the _*_beast_*
Should I upgrade from my MBP M1 PRO 14 (16 GB 1TB) to MBP M2 PRO (16 GB 512 GB)?
CAN ANYONE GUIDE ME?
no
no, such a waste. the m1 pro is literally better 😂
I don't know how you find the time to make so many in depth videos, but keep it up!
Let’s give a moment of appreciation for the amount of time and work that goes into these very detailed videos.❤
Cringe comment
@@urigeheadmot1196 thank you
Needed to watch this… been looking at the M2’s since they dropped! This has just proven to me that there’s not a significant change since the M1… especially for what I’d be using it for. Just got to save my money now for a new laptop 🙏🏻 thank you for the extensive review guys!
Exactly save your money and get that M1, no use paying Apple luxury tax for a device that offers such small upgrade.
Max Tech always makes the most comprehensive benchmarks and the best analysis of Mac, iPad and iPhone releases.
I am confident that I made the right choice in going with the M1-Pro, and I am grateful to have had the opportunity to review your thorough and insightful comparison. I appreciate your commitment to providing the most detailed and accurate information, and I am so glad I followed your advice. Many thanks.
Same!!! I got mine for $1,549 in the refurb store. Hopefully people are aware of that so they can save some $$.
@@jeffvalentine9947 they are as low as $1390 now with 512gb storage
@@JackCarter911 no makes no sense
Just purchased the M1 with 400 discount from Best Buy. Thanks for the comparison!
Wow! This video makes the decision between M1 and M2 much easier. Love the comprehensive analysis and in-depth testing with standard benchmarks. Thank you.
I also noticed the huge difference in read/write speeds in the 512GB SSD compared to the M1. Question, does that difference carry over to the 1TB drives as well?
No it doesn’t, if you opt to get the 1TB M2 Pro you’ll receive double the speeds of the 512GB model.
@@kok324 Thanks!
I really appreciate your comparison videos. As a person who doesn’t understand a lot about tech, your videos are really helpful and I can actually understand what you’re talking about. ❤
Always good to know that i can come here to get a detailed analysis.
I appreciate how you opened up the machines and compared the internals
I find it really cool that you also give us a look under the hood of the devices
Thank you for the thorough review. I am looking for a MacBook Pro for my son and have been considering the M1 Pro and the M2 Pro
He will a first year Graphics Design major.
After watching your review I will be pursuing the M1 Pro. I cannot justify the significant price increase for the M2 Pro. I feel the M1 will be more than sufficient for him.
i wonder if getting the 1tb drive on the m2 pro would solve the ssd performance issue.
like how you guys go into details that others don't.
I currently have an M1 Pro, so good to know I don’t absolutely need to upgrade. But I would still love to!! 😃
Do you guys really keep all of the Macs you order or return or sell them on eBay? Always curious what y’all do with them after the reviews
I can’t wait to win this competition 😆 thanks for the opportunity!
I purchase all my electronics based on your review. Thank you 😊
I upgraded from 2015 MBP 15" to latest MBP 16" M2.. so happy 🙂
Only one place to go for these apple comparison vids. This is 🔥
Thanks for the review. Don’t think I’ll be changing my M1 Pro!
I was waiting for that side by side comparison. Thanks guys
Thanks for such a detailed comparison! The comparison charts reminded me of the comparison charts in Dave2Ds video!
Love all the data and analysis that Maxtech delivers with new Mac releases. I wait for your reviews rather than watching all the rest.
I love the details of this video. Planning to get an M1 Pro soon. I’m sticking with that choice
There is no one that goes all in in as much detail as you guys. I love all the reviews and comparisons.
First, I love your thorough comparisons. They were instrumental in my choosing which Air, and then which Pro I should buy. Ultimately, I chose to buy an upgraded version of the M2 MacBook Air, and then a brand new M1 Pro, also upgraded, foregoing the M2 Pro MacBook Pro .I was able to find good deals on both. I wanted to let you know, though, that your math is off, on all your comparisons. I thought it sounded funky, so I did the math, myself, and you consistently inflated the difference, between the machines, by 3 or 4 %. The real numbers were exactly what Apple stated. If you need a math lesson, on how to figure out percentages, hit this gal up!
😂😂😂 good catch + dedication to do your own math
Your reviews are essential for anyone getting a new mac. Keep it up!
Can any of these newer systems be upgraded with bigger SSD's in the future? Also, is the magsafe on both units? If not, what kind of power source specific to each?
love the really detailed comparison, and that it is not just an 5min unpack without any new information!
Hands down Maxtech gives us the best teardowns and comparisons on the internet.
I'm starting to consider replacing my old (but gold) MacBook Pro 2015, this new M2 Pro seems to be a pretty good deal
I bought the M2 Pro after a personal comparison with the M1 Pro. It's much faster, in video-photo editing and in 3D.
This also with the 512GB SSD version, which is now also refurbished. I bought it new for €500 less than the Apple site.
Evidently M2 Pro 6 months ago is not the same one you buy now
First time want to buy MacBook. Which should i get? Use for data analyst
Amazingly detailed comparison as always. I'm very happy with my M1 Max which I chose after following your reviews closely. No regrets after watching this. Thank you.
I love all the videos covering M1 and M2 Mac products. Your comparisons and commentary is first class. Thank you
Must say your production quality is increasing by every video! Good job!🎉👍
Blender comparison is really useful, thanks!
I always watch your reviews because you guys talk about so many details about the product and honestly tell the difference which helps the consumer to choose wisely. keep it up!
I just bought a 14 M2 Pro, not by choice but because I broke the screen on my 14 M1 Pro. I have noticed the M2 Pro runs way hotter than the M1 Pro. The M1 Pro never had any temperature, the M2 Pro heats up even when doing basic Xcode builds now. The battery life is also considerably worse when running Xcode builds, perhaps 20-30% worse or more. I was wondering if I was just crazy but this video explains a lot. I will certainly be returning this computer and looking into repairing the screen on my M1 pro instead. Wow.
M1 Pro is literally better it’s crazy 😂