I just purchased this rifle last month, I'm a prepper. I wasn't a air gun enthusiast. I came across this weapon on Utube, I watched all related videos on this rifle that I could find, It opened my eyes to a whole new sport of pcp airguns I never knew existed! Now I'm all in. I've added 3 air rifles to my arsenal. Including a airbow. But for a survival situation, when everything collapsed, ability to buy amunition confiscation of firearms, no power, lights out, and personal protection, the Seneca Aspen is perfect for me, sets ready next to my bugout bag!
If you are starting from scratch. This is unbeatable. I purchased a Umarex Gauntlet and Kral puncher breaker from you,as well as the Hill pump. My 1st purchase was $800 plus with the Gauntlet, after the pump and scope. I wouldn't change what I did because I want more pcp rifles and will need the pump. ...But if all I wanted was a fine hunting pcp, this is exactly what I would buy. I will probably purchase this anyway, just for the convenience in the field. Thanks. It's a great time to be into air guns. I remember the Daisy Powerline, as a youth. ....This is that on steroids, for a grown man.
I WANT one ASAP!!! I can't really say I have EVER been this excited about a PCP. In fact, IF /WHEN I do get one of these it will be my first PCP and it all has to do with the way you fill it with air.
Great video Travis! I bought one a little while ago from AOA. It is the best bang for the buck right now. You were spot on in your assessment of this gun. So many options for tuning and the accuracy is really amazing for the price. You got some fantastic groups out of it!
I see a LOT of negative reviews mainly pertaining to faulty pump...seems like a giant hassle to get it repaired when the pump does eventually fail within a few months of regular use...if they get the pump sorted out and make it more reliable, it definitely has potential...maybe use standard filling options and only use the pump on an as-needed basis and it will probably last a good bit longer
I've had one in 22 for a few months now and have put about 600 pellets through it. As the video shows it is boringly accurate and very powerful. Pumping it up is not a chore at all and I get mine pumped up to full fill without even breaking a sweat. Another bonus is it comes with a single shot tray and the magazines are standard issue for the Benjamin Marauder. Mine likes the plain old Crosman domed magnums. The trigger is excellent as is the cocking arm. It feels very well-made which surprised me.
I bought this gun for the pump and got so much more. It is my first and only PVP. I have 3 springers and the Aspen is so much quieter than they are. I was surprised when I heard that it was on the medium loud side. As for accuracy, yes it is deadly accurate. Several critters can attest to that. Well, they could attest to it if they were still able to attest to it. I love it.
With the original release of this air rifle the pump would fail and the gun would have to be shipped back to the seller for a replacement. However, I've heard that this is no longer the case and the pump problem has been solved. Would you let me know if you have any problems with your gun, please, Stoncrop? Here's the problem I was refering to: th-cam.com/video/yYjmoIOB6y0/w-d-xo.html
@@wolfenstein6676 Yes, I was aware of this problem when I bought it but not everyone had that issue so since I wanted it that bad, I bought it. I have not had any problems with the pump yet. Sometimes it doesn't appear to be pumping up the chamber when use the pump but eventually it seems to take hold and up it goes. I make sure to keep it lubricated. I will add that I bought a reconditioned Aspen and that may be a good thing in this case as Seneca would have fixed issues when they had it. Also, it was cheaper at the time. I've since looked on line and saw that for some reason the reconditioned rifles cost more than a new one. Go figure.
@@giannagiavelli5098 Generally squirrels and an occasional rabbit. To shoot hogs you need a big bore. I have a 50 caliber PCP (Seneca Dragon Claw) for that.
I own this gun and I LOVE IT. purchased my "Nova Freedom" from American Tactical, it's the same gun. Chinese rebrand, but so far it's fantastic. works as advertised, if not better. although it does take about 35 pumps to get to optimal pressure, it's powerful, accurate, and the bolt action is smooth.
i oil with silicone before and after each shooting session ,this thing hits well over 150 yards ,very,very,very accurate !!! i shoot 14gn all the way to 40 gn ,no problenno !
Very smart and innovative someone is using their head for more than a hat rack it's exactly what everybody asked for out of a PCP and to make it pump and fillable with a tank brilliance
Thanks for a nice in depth report on what looks to be a very well thought out gun. Great entry level PCP with no need to buy a pump or extra tanks. Having control of fill pressure, transfer port size and hammer spring tension should help one tune for accuracy with a number of different pellets. If I did not have access to a compressor or pump this would definitely be a good choice.
I think it’s meant to fill up with a hand pump or tank, and the pump on the gun is meant to top it off every 8-12 shots depending on caliber. You don’t wanna wear out those valves by pumping it 60-70 times and generating insane amounts of heat. You have to keep it lined too I hear. I ordered one, I’m excited to see how it holds up. If quality control is mastered they have a game changer.
I love this rifle. Thanks brother for your excellent review. As a hunting platform. This is unbeatable......I realize it will be a pain in the ass. But the only question I hear is reliability. I would love to see a 5,000 to 10,000 shot test. So there is my challenge to you. God bless you brother. Stay strong.
if you research the pump problem you will find that rapid pumping causes the problem. I know it sucks to pump the rifle slowly however it is worth the effort when you review the accuracy.
Looks like something I can ask SWMBO for my birthday. There are a myriad of things I like about this rifle. The first is price. I am not that wealthy for me to afford a mortgage for a high dollar rifle and all the accessories to buy just to be able to shoot. .22 cal is fine for me around where I live but I would like to see this offered in .25. This should be quiet enough for the back yard and good enough to teach my grand children how to handle guns safely. Great job on the review.
Hey Joe, I agree that Travis did a great review video. However, I still wonder why there was not much ado about the Nova Vista Freedom which is the same gun and has been out for MANY more months? All of a sudden these reviews are acting like this gun never ever existed before the Seneca Aspen, which is simply not true! And, yes, I plan on owning one (which version depends on the price) as soon as I can afford it and figure out how to suppress it legally in Alabama! (grin)
I am super jazzed about this rifle. I can't believe it's at a $400 price point. I have been saying for years that somebody needed to take the daisy 880 and Beef It Up. I am super impressed with the velocities that this gun is getting. I've been looking for something to replace my Gamo Hunter Extreme SE in 22 caliber. It is a beautiful rifle and deadly accurate at 50 yards..... But they put the world's worst trigger in it. One of these days I will replace it with a Charlie D tuna trigger... But like all Magnum springers.... It takes a lot of focus to shoot well. Anyway..... Out of all the budget pcp's that have come out recently.... This one wins hands down.
man that gamo hunter extreme is one bad ass rifle you can use it for hoggs ,predators,and possibly dear at 25 yards with heavier pellets !!!! awesome rifle !!! this thing"ASPEN" is just a little slower but the advantages are out of this world !!!
Mine is pretty old, made in Spain. I believe I got it in like 1996-98. The stock trigger was horrible, but the aftermarket trigger, from Airguns of Arizona made it a very nice rifle. It's true two stage and very adjustable. The .177 is a very flat shooter. The $35 trigger upgrade is very much worth the price. Easy to install.. That new Aspen looks like a good choice to leave overseas where I spend a couple months out of the year. He was shooting groups as good as my Fx Crown m Impact, and AA s510 .25 do. Very little difference at the 35 yard range. That will be a very good rat rifle, if it holds together ? I tried ordering a Charlie D Tuna trigger , but they never got back to me online. I got the AOA and it's magnificent, and I am a trigger snob.
I watched this video with my wife and we both thought it was so clever as well as funny. Then we watched the second part where the gun was tested in almost every way that I would want it to be & my wife said she was going to order it for me for Christmas so she just did from airgun Depot today! The videos are so fun that my wife had a blast laughing with me and got to understand why I like this gun so much, so it really was the Clincher for her to buy this gun from airgun Depot. Keep the videos coming...
Nice gun and it shoots excellent. Why is it when a new gun comes out, ok not brand new. The snobs have to bash it? FX isn't the only gun in the world that's nice and well built. I'm not saying that this is an FX by any means, but there are a lot of nice guns out there that don't have to cost you an arm and leg to enjoy. Isn't that what it's all about, having fun? I'm just venting because of the the snobs that try and compare FX GUNS to any sub 1500 dollar gun. It's 400.00 get over it and let the average joe enjoy the PCP world. Thanks for the review of a nice entry level PCP air gun.
Sometimes when people get the luxury of only getting the best from get go only know what they know I guess. I myself like many others buy the average guns like a BOX store gun at Walmart is how I started. From that point I can only dream of owning something with all that Hype that people talked about . I never, would of thought I purchase something like an "FX'. UNTIL one day I found a deal I couldn't pass up. I got a 400 ROYAL used, but in beautiful condition for a mere 800 bucks . And I'm here to tell yea it is certainly a dream to shoot. But I still play around with sub 200 dollar guns only cause I'm not afraid the bash them about when outside hunting. I really like this concept, but I've been kinda reluctant on buying it cause I've seen several if not more, complaints about the gun . Being sent DOA.to purchasers. I'm quite amused buy its accuracy also. Would like to see it tested at the 50 & 100 yard mark also. Preferably in 25 cal. I hope this gun gets its issues fixed too. Now Back to FX, if you think there flawlessly trouble and trouble free think again . Even the IMPACT series came with a boat load of issues. And for a 2000.00 dollar gun you can bet that the company is going to address it quickly. However there are plenty of good shooting rifles for any price point now days. If you got time look at videos of a gentleman out WEST . He is in the middle of providing some interesting, called a JSAR RAPTOR for about 1100.00 bucks and I could very well be a heavy competitor to a FX. NOT ONLY IN PERFORMANCE but price and power also.
I agree totally, I have an Aspen in .25 cal a wonderful gun, then I bought the LCS SK-19 in .30 cal $2.1K semi and full auto, all the bells and whistles, well worth the money then I bought the Kral Puncher NP-03 in .25 cal $499.00 beyond accurate, 110 shots on a tank, I love it, almost my go to gun.
I've got one. Unbelievably accurate.on Low power I get 2 mags plus 4 more for a total of 20 shots. Usually the 20th shot has very little power or accuracy. I love the gun. the first time I only pumped it 50 times after that it needed 60 to 70 for a full charge. I find myself shooting a ton of pellets because of how fast it shoots. I have 3 other rifles a .177 a .25 and a .30 brake barrel and this gun is the most fun. It doesn't take to long to go through 2 mags so I find myself pumping a lot. Good work out. I bought a Mantis 4-12x40 AO Rifle Scope, Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 1" Tube and it's GREAT!
You've missed the point here, lads. The whole idea wirth this gun is having the ability to ditch the electronic pumps and air tanks, not have them as a back-up. I'm looking for the ideal 'SHTF' gun that will always provide me with the ability to hunt my own food, anytime, anywhere. Due to its bad pump manufacture this gun can't be considered for that purpose, unfortunately.
@@wolfenstein6676 Hey Wolfee I understand ...that's why I bought it. No electric pump and no foot pump. I don't need an electric pump I know that but if the hand pump ever goes I'm not spending the money to fix it. I'll just get an electric pump.
PhotoBobBarker I’m still waiting on mine I ordered mine over a month ago I knew it would take a while. Is yours the 22 and does it seem pretty powerful.
@@paulsonja66 Answer: yes, and YES. I actually got the nova vista (open sights) for Buds for 312 with shipping. I haven't received my pellets that I ordered specifically for this rifle, I just have what I used with my Benji TrailNP. I've tried Ruger superpoint 17gr (no accuracy testing yet) and JSB jumbo heavy 18.13 gr and Jumbo Monster 25.39 gr. I was shooting at 10 yds rested and stacked two of the jumbo monsters on top of eachother that blew through a piece of 40 years seasoned pine 2x4. To say I'm impressed would be understating things considerably.
Same here! I always liked break barrel rifles for their convenience, but being this doesn't need a compressor or a separate pump, it could work out really well when in the mountains.
@@thefoxoropeza7906 I do have a break barrel. Have had it for many many years. One of the first kind of airguns most people most probably start their airgunning with..
Fill it to under 3000psi, shoot 1mag of pellets and refill. Like you said, the shot string would flatten out. Next best thing to being regulated. The 2power settings is a nice feature too. A good hunter/plinker/survival gun, if it holds up without wearing out. Wonder what kinda accuracy @50yds? Nice video.😸
I have the Nova Freedom [same rifle different manfacturer] & I have filled my buttstock with survival gear [fire starting materials, a small amount of fishing tackle & 500 [.22] pellets]
That is crazy, I was thinking of a system like this would make a PCP very convenient and now I see they have come out with one. Seems to get mixed reviews on reliability so I will wait a little before seriously looking into a purchase.
@@01lexus me too. But I'm seriously considering selling all my air guns and pcp equipment just to help offset the price. But considering that I just want it for pesting and mom competitive shooting the nova freedom might just be a more realistic choice.
@@thedevilsadvocate886 I am on the fence with the Nova Freedom or the Nova Liberty. Steve at "Air Velocity Sport" really likes the Liberty and recommended that especially for what you get for the price. I was leaning more toward the Liberty but I look at the higher psi hand pumps and they all seem to be all over $100 for just a okay one that gets mixed reviews so that means I am adding 100+ dollars to any PCP rifle, they have a $40-$50 high psi pump on ebay that gets mixed reviews but I am reading more negative then positive especially for the same basic pump on Amazon. I don't think I will be messing around with scuba tanks and compressors which are going to end up costing more then the guns themselves. Having a gun with the pump built in is enticing but then you hear others comment it leaks so who knows. Just wish companies built products that work and last and you don't have to worry about them failing shortly after purchase.
I have this gun in the 25 cal and I'm on my second pump problem already but it shoots really good and even with slugs. Now I've got to just figure out how to rebuild the pump myself since it's out of warranty or figure out a way to put a bottle on it
The double air charging idea is on the surface a good idea but it means more can go wrong.i had a Crosman pump up rifle, can't remember what model it was but at 10 pumps it sent the .177 pellets down range at about 750 fps, and that pumping was hard work.
i love the way it’s look and accurate, i definitely get this, by the way i love the beginning of vids, you guys look very funny... lol.... love this channel
@@trevorallen8514 I have 3 other pcp guns. I completely rebuilt one of them out of the box and kept it wet, plus pumped slow. They just don’t holdup, I wanted with all my heart to love this gun. Make it the quality of a Hill pump and it would work.
Where was this gun when I started in PCP's? I started with a m-rod like everyone else and finally moved up to a fx impact. This looks like a very good intro rifle. Most don't start with a $1000 or more air rifle.
U guys never disappoint. I appreciate all of u putting urself out there like that for a laugh. The gun looks like a solid buy. Please answer 1 question for me. I have never seen a gun shoot all the pellets it liked in the same area. Was that the gun or was the scope adjusted to hit high and to the right with each pellet?
Love the production. Great start and finish. Can you please state the weight of the pellet you are using and ftp of energy that the rifles are capable of in your next videos? Thanks.
Yes, we will, and we usually do. If you check out our Definitive Guide to the Seneca Aspen at Airgun Depot we give you the numbers for both the .177 and .22.
I agree 100%!!!! I don't understand why other companies make air rifles like this!!! Not everyone can get a tank!! Where I live you have to take the scuba diver course to be able to fill a scuba tank!!! Then there are the high pressure compressors!!!! That's $$$$$ high dollar!!!!
Thanks for the factual and well presented review. It's an Impressive gun in many factors, including it's great accuracy, for the price. Even the name is short, simple and appropriate. The lever looked smooth and easy in operation. With that accuracy the trigger has to be fine. Now if I can make one semi-auto.
I live in NC where there is no caliber restrictions for deer hunting so I was wondering would a 25 caliber hold enough energy at 75-100 yds to penetrate a deers skull 🤔
@@CowboyCrossfire No, a quarter inch projectile is enough. I would recommend a .25 with 50+ fpe. Less is still doable, but 50 will punch through a rib if you hit one or definitely a skull. I shoot .25 at 25 grains jsbs and you could easily kill a person sized animal or person at 150 yards.
DUDE YOU A PHUCKIN BEAST ,,,,LOL ,,, ALWAYS ENTERTAINING !!!! IM SUBBED !!!!! LOL BEWARE AIRGUN COMPANIES ,THIS MAN TELLS IT LIKE IT IS ,SO YOU BETTER COME CORRECT !!!!
It would be nice to do some 50 yard targets using the shoot three shots and then pump it back up. That way as you said the fps spread would be less showing the best accuracy potential. Also most airgunners think 50 yards is the standard distance to test PCP accuracy.
This concept makes sense. At the end of the day, you have to convert X amount of mechanical energy to X amount of air pressure at a given volume. No getting around it, it has to come from somewhere. Might as well be self-contained, and maintained a little at a time as you deplete it a little at a time. The biggest challenge in air gunning is getting satisfactory consistent power, and to do that with traditional PCP you have to go 'off gun'. (Pumps, compressors, scuba bottles etc.) It is like owning a pet hamster. The hamster itself is straightforward enough, but all the accessories to keep it well and happy will drive you nuts and drain your bank account. Not to mention the time, space, and maintenance all that stuff takes up. I'm sorry, but it had to be said and it is the truth. This concept solves a lot of those problems. The rifle seems to be a fine specimen of a brilliant concept.
The barrel is shrouded, which helps reduce the sound, and as far we know there aren't any silencers available for it. Something could possibly be made. The gun comes with a fixed 4x AO scope, but for testing we used a Hawke 4-12x50 Vantage scope.
Lots of complaints about the reliability/durability. Many owners had to claim their warranties - seems like that built-in pump breaks after few hundreds of pellets being shot.
I've been looking at this gun for a while...... my question is RELIABILITY???? I've read a number of online comments about the pump/air system failing after 1K rounds or so..... any thoughts/information on this???
It's reliable most of the people probably didn't oil the pump before it's first use if they ever oiled it at all and you have to oil it fairly often . I had this gun for 2 years before I had to replace the factory air seals and I couldn't tell you how many pellets I've sent through this thing 10s of thousands . Also clean the barrel of any air before it's first use .
well made, accurate and cheap chinese air gun.. aspen! and the all powerful, state of the art, full-auto huben k1..! the british, german and american air gun manufacturers should take notes!
Dose the pump have a hydro filter for a place like Florida where it’s very humid? Like the Benjamin marauder hand pump so that the air tank and vale didn’t rust over and fail.
Why is it that the gun in your vid where you show Airgun Depot Aspen doing it's 360 degree spin_ that gun has a front site AND the scope and the Aspen you use doesn't. I would love both options..........
I was wondering the same. And if we pay attention when he says that is set in Hi the readings start at 600's. When he states that is set in Low starts at 900's.
In PCP that use hammer system, the tank which store high pressure air will release air into chamber when the valve assembly is hit (and hold open) by hammer. Aside from valve spring, the valve is also pushed from the tank side by the air pressure. In rifle with rather weak hammer spring (or too hard valve spring), the extra pressure from tank can cause the valve to close sooner, which release less air. Sometimes overfilling cause valve lock (i.e.the hammer can't push open the valve at all) I think here the curve is more pronounced because the aspen tank is small volume.
I wish you would make a video on how to tune this air rifle. It's too bad that is not available in .25, and regulated. Having a built in air pump, wouldn't it be subject to wearing out of the seals at a fast rate where they have to be replaced often?
It is also available in .25 With this gun, you are the regulator. Find the sweet spot in the psi range, and give it several pumps after every few shots and just stay in that zone. This also keeps the pump from getting overheated pumping from zero to completely full in one go. The provided silicone oil is key, and pump slowly
It almost sounded like the gun was saying "asssssman" at the end of the video?..... Nicely played. BTW it looks like a really good value for anyone wanting to explore PCP shooting.
I think it is a great entry level PCP so I ordered one, Too bad there are so many that have no idea WLF they are talking about. Oh yea, I shoot centerfire too....
How does this gun handle moisture, since standard pumps have moisture removal systems. This gun will pump humid air right into the chamber. Do you think this will cause problems?
I've been thinking of getting a Marauder for a while but this has me re-thinking it. My main concern about the Aspen is the possibility of water in the air reservoir or valve from a lot of pumping. I see conflicting information about desiccant in the pump or reservoir. Any thoughts on this, Airgun Depot? I don't want to buy a problem.
The Aspen has an inline desiccant that should reduce moisture in the reservoir, and it shouldn't be too much of a problem one way or another since the reservoir is so small and any accumulated moisture would likely get shot out pretty quickly.
The way this is designed could it in any way be shortened to 36.5 inches. Can the barrel be taken down! I'd really love to. See a bullpup version. I want to fit one into my 100 liter survival rucksack! Another preferable idea would be a flip over stock!
I want to put a tactical scope w a laser and a reflex holographic site. I haven't ordered my aspen 22 from you yet but I would like to order it from you tomorrow. I just want to know if you think that it's a good idea. I also would need an adapter that converts to a picatiny.
I love my aspen. Tight groups@ 50 yards. Hitting the same hole all the time at fifty with the included scope. Buy a nice long rang scope to get more accurate. The scope that came w the aspen is ok out to fifty w practice. I get 30 plus shots out of 250 bar. Can keep shooting until gun is almost out of air accurately
Trigger pull is good. Haven't made an adjustment yet but I will soon. Also take a break after pumping it up so that your heartbeat doesn't ruin your shot.... Barrel jumping around while trying to aim... Holds pressure good.. Even after a couple days.
Don't waste your money. I have the UK legal sub 12 ft lbs version known as the Nova Vista. It's heavy, the stock is a cheap plastic affair which consists of 3 pieces, the pump handle locking button disengages at the slightest knock, so no carrying the rifle by it as you would expect you'd be able to, the pump handle twists when in use causing the handle end to catch the stock causing damage, if you don't do a full range of movement pump of the onboard pump it gets an air lock and refuses to budge from a 45 degree angle without some serious persuasion and the general feel to the rifle is cheap and nasty. I have numerous other rifles which I'm a capable hunter with but with the nova vista I couldn't hit a damn thing. Then, not even after 9 months in which time I took good care of it it decided to spring a leak from the seal joining the air cylinder to the action. No biggy I thought as it's an easy fix. Oh how wrong was I. SMK who manufacturers these rifles for the UK saw fit to put an anti tamper bolt in to prevent removal of the air cylinder!? And due to quarantine etc SMK are only doing warranty repairs which I should have been covered by but the email address provided in the info booklet was non existent so by the time I'd researched and found out SMK were the manufacturers the warranty had run out. 😤
4: 51, my trigger adjusts well. I turned it down to 2.1 lbs and it's a great trigger in every respect, helping to get the most of the very good accuracy the gun has. My grip isn't slippery. The only real problem with these otherwise fantastic guns is they're unreliable. The mfg went 80% of the way, then threw the ball away. It would be great if a mfg would design and make one without the deficiencies.
Oh no. I was getting kind of excited and considering breaking some piggy banks. What kind of problems are you having, and did the manufacturer help you out?
i noticed in the presentation part of video it has a front sight ,does it also come with open sights ,if the scope breaks in the field ,open sights are nice to have !
One of the main differences between the Seneca Aspen and the Nova Freedom is that the Aspen comes with an AO scope, and the Freedom has sights. We tested the Freedom's to see if we liked them and forgot to take them off the gun till partway through the video.
I just purchased this rifle last month, I'm a prepper. I wasn't a air gun enthusiast. I came across this weapon on Utube, I watched all related videos on this rifle that I could find, It opened my eyes to a whole new sport of pcp airguns I never knew existed! Now I'm all in. I've added 3 air rifles to my arsenal. Including a airbow. But for a survival situation, when everything collapsed, ability to buy amunition confiscation of firearms, no power, lights out, and personal protection, the Seneca Aspen is perfect for me, sets ready next to my bugout bag!
If you are starting from scratch. This is unbeatable. I purchased a Umarex Gauntlet and Kral puncher breaker from you,as well as the Hill pump. My 1st purchase was $800 plus with the Gauntlet, after the pump and scope. I wouldn't change what I did because I want more pcp rifles and will need the pump. ...But if all I wanted was a fine hunting pcp, this is exactly what I would buy. I will probably purchase this anyway, just for the convenience in the field. Thanks. It's a great time to be into air guns. I remember the Daisy Powerline, as a youth. ....This is that on steroids, for a grown man.
With a pump, how many pumps does it take to go from empty to 3000 psi in your guns?
After seeing what the Aspen can do, I gotta get me one. No need for a tank or pump and still very accurate, it's a win win.
It sure is!
Out of all the guns of 2017 and 18 I think this one takes the number one spot for innovation! Soon as I have the money I will have one in a 22 cal.
I WANT one ASAP!!! I can't really say I have EVER been this excited about a PCP. In fact, IF /WHEN I do get one of these it will be my first PCP and it all has to do with the way you fill it with air.
That's awesome! We're glad the Aspen is getting you into PCPs.
Great video Travis! I bought one a little while ago from AOA. It is the best bang for the buck right now. You were spot on in your assessment of this gun. So many options for tuning and the accuracy is really amazing for the price. You got some fantastic groups out of it!
I see a LOT of negative reviews mainly pertaining to faulty pump...seems like a giant hassle to get it repaired when the pump does eventually fail within a few months of regular use...if they get the pump sorted out and make it more reliable, it definitely has potential...maybe use standard filling options and only use the pump on an as-needed basis and it will probably last a good bit longer
I've had one in 22 for a few months now and have put about 600 pellets through it. As the video shows it is boringly accurate and very powerful. Pumping it up is not a chore at all and I get mine pumped up to full fill without even breaking a sweat. Another bonus is it comes with a single shot tray and the magazines are standard issue for the Benjamin Marauder. Mine likes the plain old Crosman domed magnums. The trigger is excellent as is the cocking arm. It feels very well-made which surprised me.
Done any hunting with it?
I bought this gun for the pump and got so much more. It is my first and only PVP. I have 3 springers and the Aspen is so much quieter than they are. I was surprised when I heard that it was on the medium loud side. As for accuracy, yes it is deadly accurate. Several critters can attest to that. Well, they could attest to it if they were still able to attest to it. I love it.
With the original release of this air rifle the pump would fail and the gun would have to be shipped back to the seller for a replacement. However, I've heard that this is no longer the case and the pump problem has been solved. Would you let me know if you have any problems with your gun, please, Stoncrop?
Here's the problem I was refering to: th-cam.com/video/yYjmoIOB6y0/w-d-xo.html
@@wolfenstein6676 Yes, I was aware of this problem when I bought it but not everyone had that issue so since I wanted it that bad, I bought it. I have not had any problems with the pump yet. Sometimes it doesn't appear to be pumping up the chamber when use the pump but eventually it seems to take hold and up it goes. I make sure to keep it lubricated. I will add that I bought a reconditioned Aspen and that may be a good thing in this case as Seneca would have fixed issues when they had it. Also, it was cheaper at the time. I've since looked on line and saw that for some reason the reconditioned rifles cost more than a new one. Go figure.
what size critter can u shoot? hogs?
@@giannagiavelli5098 Generally squirrels and an occasional rabbit. To shoot hogs you need a big bore. I have a 50 caliber PCP (Seneca Dragon Claw) for that.
I own this gun and I LOVE IT. purchased my "Nova Freedom" from American Tactical, it's the same gun. Chinese rebrand, but so far it's fantastic. works as advertised, if not better. although it does take about 35 pumps to get to optimal pressure, it's powerful, accurate, and the bolt action is smooth.
i oil with silicone before and after each shooting session ,this thing hits well over 150 yards ,very,very,very accurate !!! i shoot 14gn all the way to 40 gn ,no problenno !
I barely trust the Chinese to make toilet paper.... and it only has to work once!!
Very smart and innovative someone is using their head for more than a hat rack it's exactly what everybody asked for out of a PCP and to make it pump and fillable with a tank brilliance
Thanks for a nice in depth report on what looks to be a very well thought out gun. Great entry level PCP with no need to buy a pump or extra tanks. Having control of fill pressure, transfer port size and hammer spring tension should help one tune for accuracy with a number of different pellets. If I did not have access to a compressor or pump this would definitely be a good choice.
I need to step up my game , that intro was awesome !! Another great video, Travis ! Awesome shooting , too
Thanks Rick!
I think it’s meant to fill up with a hand pump or tank, and the pump on the gun is meant to top it off every 8-12 shots depending on caliber. You don’t wanna wear out those valves by pumping it 60-70 times and generating insane amounts of heat. You have to keep it lined too I hear. I ordered one, I’m excited to see how it holds up. If quality control is mastered they have a game changer.
Nice feature that safety doesn't automatically reset every time you rack the bolt. This looks very appealing to me.
I like it! Your intros for these videos are awesome - Keeps us all laughing right along with you!
I love this rifle. Thanks brother for your excellent review. As a hunting platform. This is unbeatable......I realize it will be a pain in the ass. But the only question I hear is reliability. I would love to see a 5,000 to 10,000 shot test. So there is my challenge to you. God bless you brother. Stay strong.
This pcp intrigues me. I like the fast follow up shots, accuracy and 2 power settings. Thanks your shot string graph was very helpful. 👍
Superb honest review.
That handle reminds me of my old Daisy Powerline as a kid.
if you research the pump problem you will find that rapid pumping causes the problem. I know it sucks to pump the rifle slowly however it is worth the effort when you review the accuracy.
Looks like something I can ask SWMBO for my birthday. There are a myriad of things I like about this rifle. The first is price. I am not that wealthy for me to afford a mortgage for a high dollar rifle and all the accessories to buy just to be able to shoot. .22 cal is fine for me around where I live but I would like to see this offered in .25. This should be quiet enough for the back yard and good enough to teach my grand children how to handle guns safely. Great job on the review.
Love the fun little pre-vids! Keep em coming!
Thanks!
I was waiting for this review thank you, love the accuracy. And again nice video. Keep it up......
Great video Travis .
Hey Joe, I agree that Travis did a great review video. However, I still wonder why there was not much ado about the Nova Vista Freedom which is the same gun and has been out for MANY more months? All of a sudden these reviews are acting like this gun never ever existed before the Seneca Aspen, which is simply not true!
And, yes, I plan on owning one (which version depends on the price) as soon as I can afford it and figure out how to suppress it legally in Alabama! (grin)
Thanks, Joe.
I am super jazzed about this rifle. I can't believe it's at a $400 price point. I have been saying for years that somebody needed to take the daisy 880 and Beef It Up. I am super impressed with the velocities that this gun is getting. I've been looking for something to replace my Gamo Hunter Extreme SE in 22 caliber. It is a beautiful rifle and deadly accurate at 50 yards..... But they put the world's worst trigger in it. One of these days I will replace it with a Charlie D tuna trigger... But like all Magnum springers.... It takes a lot of focus to shoot well.
Anyway..... Out of all the budget pcp's that have come out recently.... This one wins hands down.
I have an old Gamo hunter .177. Airguns of arizona has a great trigger upgrade. I'm a PCP person now, but this thing has its place.
man that gamo hunter extreme is one bad ass rifle you can use it for hoggs ,predators,and possibly dear at 25 yards with heavier pellets !!!! awesome rifle !!! this thing"ASPEN" is just a little slower but the advantages are out of this world !!!
Mine is pretty old, made in Spain. I believe I got it in like 1996-98. The stock trigger was horrible, but the aftermarket trigger, from Airguns of Arizona made it a very nice rifle. It's true two stage and very adjustable. The .177 is a very flat shooter. The $35 trigger upgrade is very much worth the price. Easy to install.. That new Aspen looks like a good choice to leave overseas where I spend a couple months out of the year. He was shooting groups as good as my Fx Crown m Impact, and AA s510 .25 do. Very little difference at the 35 yard range. That will be a very good rat rifle, if it holds together ? I tried ordering a Charlie D Tuna trigger , but they never got back to me online. I got the AOA and it's magnificent, and I am a trigger snob.
SO WE ARE TALKING 1600 FPS ,BETTER USE 15 OR 16 GR PELLETS TO SLOW IT A LITTLE LOL !
I just ordered one of these and look forward in receiving it in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your detailed review.
I love my aspen. The gun is very quiet and powerful. Also very accurate.
How has the gun been since you owned it any problems ?
I watched this video with my wife and we both thought it was so clever as well as funny. Then we watched the second part where the gun was tested in almost every way that I would want it to be & my wife said she was going to order it for me for Christmas so she just did from airgun Depot today! The videos are so fun that my wife had a blast laughing with me and got to understand why I like this gun so much, so it really was the Clincher for her to buy this gun from airgun Depot. Keep the videos coming...
Glad we could help! And Merry Christmas 🌲
What i like about that is you can pump it up with a compressor and the if you out in the field you can still pump it up with the lever
Nice gun and it shoots excellent. Why is it when a new gun comes out, ok not brand new. The snobs have to bash it? FX isn't the only gun in the world that's nice and well built. I'm not saying that this is an FX by any means, but there are a lot of nice guns out there that don't have to cost you an arm and leg to enjoy. Isn't that what it's all about, having fun? I'm just venting because of the the snobs that try and compare FX GUNS to any sub 1500 dollar gun. It's 400.00 get over it and let the average joe enjoy the PCP world. Thanks for the review of a nice entry level PCP air gun.
i love . 22 version ,nova freedom ,i plan to get .177 and .25 or better when available !
Sometimes when people get the luxury of only getting the best from get go only know what they know I guess. I myself like many others buy the average guns like a BOX store gun at Walmart is how I started. From that point I can only dream of owning something with all that Hype that people talked about . I never, would of thought I purchase something like an "FX'. UNTIL one day I found a deal I couldn't pass up. I got a 400 ROYAL used, but in beautiful condition for a mere 800 bucks . And I'm here to tell yea it is certainly a dream to shoot. But I still play around with sub 200 dollar guns only cause I'm not afraid the bash them about when outside hunting. I really like this concept, but I've been kinda reluctant on buying it cause I've seen several if not more, complaints about the gun . Being sent DOA.to purchasers. I'm quite amused buy its accuracy also. Would like to see it tested at the 50 & 100 yard mark also. Preferably in 25 cal. I hope this gun gets its issues fixed too. Now Back to FX, if you think there flawlessly trouble and trouble free think again . Even the IMPACT series came with a boat load of issues. And for a 2000.00 dollar gun you can bet that the company is going to address it quickly. However there are plenty of good shooting rifles for any price point now days. If you got time look at videos of a gentleman out WEST . He is in the middle of providing some interesting, called a JSAR RAPTOR for about 1100.00 bucks and I could very well be a heavy competitor to a FX. NOT ONLY IN PERFORMANCE but price and power also.
I agree totally, I have an Aspen in .25 cal a wonderful gun, then I bought the LCS SK-19 in .30 cal $2.1K semi and full auto, all the bells and whistles, well worth the money then I bought the Kral Puncher NP-03 in .25 cal $499.00 beyond accurate, 110 shots on a tank, I love it, almost my go to gun.
Aspennnnn... i watching again... i love the vids, love the accuracy.... coming soon for my next paycheck.... Assssspennnnnn...... home....!!
I've got one. Unbelievably accurate.on Low power I get 2 mags plus 4 more for a total of 20 shots. Usually the 20th shot has very little power or accuracy. I love the gun. the first time I only pumped it 50 times after that it needed 60 to 70 for a full charge. I find myself shooting a ton of pellets because of how fast it shoots. I have 3 other rifles a .177 a .25 and a .30 brake barrel and this gun is the most fun. It doesn't take to long to go through 2 mags so I find myself pumping a lot. Good work out. I bought a Mantis 4-12x40 AO Rifle Scope, Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 1" Tube and it's GREAT!
Has the pump failed yet, mate?
@@wolfenstein6676 no the pump is working great. If it fails I'm buying an electric air pump to fill it, Right now I, good. I keep it clean and oiled
Like your solution just in case pump failed ..lol, you're right just buy a autopump and you're back in the hunting game boss!!!!
You've missed the point here, lads. The whole idea wirth this gun is having the ability to ditch the electronic pumps and air tanks, not have them as a back-up. I'm looking for the ideal 'SHTF' gun that will always provide me with the ability to hunt my own food, anytime, anywhere. Due to its bad pump manufacture this gun can't be considered for that purpose, unfortunately.
@@wolfenstein6676 Hey Wolfee I understand ...that's why I bought it. No electric pump and no foot pump. I don't need an electric pump I know that but if the hand pump ever goes I'm not spending the money to fix it. I'll just get an electric pump.
Personally I love your intros and just so people know that's the whole point it being Hokie it's humorous and yes even sometimes annoying I love it
We're glad you like them!
Thanks, Mitch!
Just got mine on the 27th. So far I love it. And not nearly as heavy as I thought it would be.
PhotoBobBarker I’m still waiting on mine I ordered mine over a month ago I knew it would take a while. Is yours the 22 and does it seem pretty powerful.
@@paulsonja66 Answer: yes, and YES. I actually got the nova vista (open sights) for Buds for 312 with shipping. I haven't received my pellets that I ordered specifically for this rifle, I just have what I used with my Benji TrailNP. I've tried Ruger superpoint 17gr (no accuracy testing yet) and JSB jumbo heavy 18.13 gr and Jumbo Monster 25.39 gr. I was shooting at 10 yds rested and stacked two of the jumbo monsters on top of eachother that blew through a piece of 40 years seasoned pine 2x4. To say I'm impressed would be understating things considerably.
Cool, I gave this a like before it really even started. Loved that intro hahaha
Nice! Something like this could actually be my first PCP..
Same here! I always liked break barrel rifles for their convenience, but being this doesn't need a compressor or a separate pump, it could work out really well when in the mountains.
U should start out with a break barrel like the gamo swarm i started with open sights when i was little
@@thefoxoropeza7906 I do have a break barrel. Have had it for many many years. One of the first kind of airguns most people most probably start their airgunning with..
Thank you for this video, thought of this concept many times but never saw anything regarding it. Flippen awesome man!
the 35 yards group... that’s crazy.... i gonna go get it...it’s killing me my Diana Chaser for sure ... lol....
I am waiting for the.25 to come out 🤩
Aspen...I have a .25 it's all Travis said and more...when the SHTF you'll want this gun in your arsenal!! Just make sure you keep the pump well oiled.
Wow, it has a pump handle like the old Daisy Powerline!
I like this gun, has that daisy 880 power line pump mechanism..good review
Fill it to under 3000psi, shoot 1mag of pellets and refill. Like you said, the shot string would flatten out. Next best thing to being regulated. The 2power settings is a nice feature too. A good hunter/plinker/survival gun, if it holds up without wearing out. Wonder what kinda accuracy @50yds? Nice video.😸
I gave it my thumbs up for the good review but the intro... I could do without.
I have the Nova Freedom [same rifle different manfacturer] & I have filled my buttstock with survival gear [fire starting materials, a small amount of fishing tackle & 500 [.22] pellets]
Great idea!
Can you add a moderator?
That is crazy, I was thinking of a system like this would make a PCP very convenient and now I see they have come out with one. Seems to get mixed reviews on reliability so I will wait a little before seriously looking into a purchase.
Ik it's super expensive but I would look into the fx independence
@@thedevilsadvocate886 Thanks for the recommendation, fx looks nice but way out of my price range.
@@01lexus me too. But I'm seriously considering selling all my air guns and pcp equipment just to help offset the price. But considering that I just want it for pesting and mom competitive shooting the nova freedom might just be a more realistic choice.
@@thedevilsadvocate886 I am on the fence with the Nova Freedom or the Nova Liberty. Steve at "Air Velocity Sport" really likes the Liberty and recommended that especially for what you get for the price. I was leaning more toward the Liberty but I look at the higher psi hand pumps and they all seem to be all over $100 for just a okay one that gets mixed reviews so that means I am adding 100+ dollars to any PCP rifle, they have a $40-$50 high psi pump on ebay that gets mixed reviews but I am reading more negative then positive especially for the same basic pump on Amazon. I don't think I will be messing around with scuba tanks and compressors which are going to end up costing more then the guns themselves. Having a gun with the pump built in is enticing but then you hear others comment it leaks so who knows. Just wish companies built products that work and last and you don't have to worry about them failing shortly after purchase.
I have this gun in the 25 cal and I'm on my second pump problem already but it shoots really good and even with slugs. Now I've got to just figure out how to rebuild the pump myself since it's out of warranty or figure out a way to put a bottle on it
Would have been very helpful if you showed us you pumping it up
The double air charging idea is on the surface a good idea but it means more can go wrong.i had a Crosman pump up rifle, can't remember what model it was but at 10 pumps it sent the .177 pellets down range at about 750 fps, and that pumping was hard work.
i love the way it’s look and accurate, i definitely get this, by the way i love the beginning of vids, you guys look very funny... lol.... love this channel
Thank you! We have a great time making the intros.
Replaced 3 times due to pump failures. Still needs to be perfected.
Did you oil the pump before its first use and oil it fairly often after that ?
@@trevorallen8514 I have 3 other pcp guns. I completely rebuilt one of them out of the box and kept it wet, plus pumped slow. They just don’t holdup, I wanted with all my heart to love this gun. Make it the quality of a Hill pump and it would work.
Where was this gun when I started in PCP's? I started with a m-rod like everyone else and finally moved up to a fx impact. This looks like a very good intro rifle. Most don't start with a $1000 or more air rifle.
U guys never disappoint. I appreciate all of u putting urself out there like that for a laugh. The gun looks like a solid buy. Please answer 1 question for me. I have never seen a gun shoot all the pellets it liked in the same area. Was that the gun or was the scope adjusted to hit high and to the right with each pellet?
Depends on the target, but I usually don't like to shoot out my point of aim when I'm going for small groups.
I like the whole idea & design behind that rifle. & I wouldn't argue with the lady & let her have her way !
Great review. I love the kooky humor. Keep 'em coming!
Looks very well thought out. I like it already. Good review.
Thanks 🎯
That handle and its placement reminds me of a very old daisy pump rifle they had many years ago, my friend had one back in the 70s,
Love the production. Great start and finish.
Can you please state the weight of the pellet you are using and ftp of energy that the rifles are capable of in your next videos?
Thanks.
Yes, we will, and we usually do. If you check out our Definitive Guide to the Seneca Aspen at Airgun Depot we give you the numbers for both the .177 and .22.
Lol.. sweet video!
This is the only type PCP air gun that makes sense to me.
"Self contained"
I agree 100%!!!! I don't understand why other companies make air rifles like this!!! Not everyone can get a tank!! Where I live you have to take the scuba diver course to be able to fill a scuba tank!!! Then there are the high pressure compressors!!!! That's $$$$$ high dollar!!!!
Loved the so Red Pill Intro.
Great video Looks like this gun is ridiculously accurate
It really is.
Thanks for the factual and well presented review. It's an Impressive gun in many factors, including it's great accuracy, for the price.
Even the name is short, simple and appropriate.
The lever looked smooth and easy in operation. With that accuracy the trigger has to be fine. Now if I can make one semi-auto.
Thanks!
I live in NC where there is no caliber restrictions for deer hunting so I was wondering would a 25 caliber hold enough energy at 75-100 yds to penetrate a deers skull 🤔
At that yardage, you would be more successful with a minimum of 50 caliber.
@@CowboyCrossfire No, a quarter inch projectile is enough. I would recommend a .25 with 50+ fpe. Less is still doable, but 50 will punch through a rib if you hit one or definitely a skull. I shoot .25 at 25 grains jsbs and you could easily kill a person sized animal or person at 150 yards.
I would still recommend a 30 cal + for safety. But I think for headshots a 70+fpe 25 cal like a bt65 or moded bullpup will carry at that range.
DUDE YOU A PHUCKIN BEAST ,,,,LOL ,,, ALWAYS ENTERTAINING !!!! IM SUBBED !!!!! LOL BEWARE AIRGUN COMPANIES ,THIS MAN TELLS IT LIKE IT IS ,SO YOU BETTER COME CORRECT !!!!
It would be nice to do some 50 yard targets using the shoot three shots and then pump it back up. That way as you said the fps spread would be less showing the best accuracy potential. Also most airgunners think 50 yards is the standard distance to test PCP accuracy.
We only have a 35 yard range here at Airgun Depot, but this gun is so accurate we may take it to another range and test it out.
This concept makes sense. At the end of the day, you have to convert X amount of mechanical energy to X amount of air pressure at a given volume. No getting around it, it has to come from somewhere. Might as well be self-contained, and maintained a little at a time as you deplete it a little at a time. The biggest challenge in air gunning is getting satisfactory consistent power, and to do that with traditional PCP you have to go 'off gun'. (Pumps, compressors, scuba bottles etc.) It is like owning a pet hamster. The hamster itself is straightforward enough, but all the accessories to keep it well and happy will drive you nuts and drain your bank account. Not to mention the time, space, and maintenance all that stuff takes up. I'm sorry, but it had to be said and it is the truth. This concept solves a lot of those problems. The rifle seems to be a fine specimen of a brilliant concept.
question; is there an available silencer? what scope did you use for testing? Thanks and good video (love the comedy pre review) Bob
The barrel is shrouded, which helps reduce the sound, and as far we know there aren't any silencers available for it. Something could possibly be made. The gun comes with a fixed 4x AO scope, but for testing we used a Hawke 4-12x50 Vantage scope.
Wow! It looks like a Daisy Powerline 880 on steroids!
i have always said that lol ,but it is really bad azz !!! imagine putting 10 shots in less than 30 secs doing about 1000 fps !
Everything well done keep up the nice work.oh ya sweet gun for the doe.
Definitely need this rifle. Just concerned about maintenance.
Lots of complaints about the reliability/durability. Many owners had to claim their warranties - seems like that built-in pump breaks after few hundreds of pellets being shot.
I've been looking at this gun for a while...... my question is RELIABILITY???? I've read a number of online comments about the pump/air system failing after 1K rounds or so..... any thoughts/information on this???
It's reliable most of the people probably didn't oil the pump before it's first use if they ever oiled it at all and you have to oil it fairly often . I had this gun for 2 years before I had to replace the factory air seals and I couldn't tell you how many pellets I've sent through this thing 10s of thousands . Also clean the barrel of any air before it's first use .
@@trevorallen8514 Is it difficult to replace the factory air seals....?
I would have given you a 👍 had you not wasted 1:40 of my time with that awful beginning. This is a serious product deserving of a serious review.
well made, accurate and cheap chinese air gun.. aspen! and the all powerful, state of the art, full-auto huben k1..! the british, german and american air gun manufacturers should take notes!
Honestly this video was great 👏😁👍
Dose the pump have a hydro filter for a place like Florida where it’s very humid? Like the Benjamin marauder hand pump so that the air tank and vale didn’t rust over and fail.
It does not.
Y'all are hilarious! Great intro. Got to have fun!
Why is it that the gun in your vid where you show Airgun Depot Aspen doing it's 360 degree spin_ that gun has a front site AND the scope and the Aspen you use doesn't. I would love both options..........
@14:37 keyhole?
Don't think it much likes the s/magnums, but looks like once you find the lead that's sweet in it it's a nice piece of kit.
Just ordered one,to sit beside my Gauntlet,and Flash! December 12th,hurry up!
you will love this gun, i have it in .22 super accurate
@@kriskogelis2408 Thanks Kris!
Is it possible to add a regulator to the gun ? If so who makes one that fits ?
I'm sold definitely want one great video as always but you need to make more like 3 a day 👍
Haha we're trying!
I don't understand how the velocity can go up as the air pressure is diminished. Please explain.
I was wondering the same. And if we pay attention when he says that is set in Hi the readings start at 600's. When he states that is set in Low starts at 900's.
In PCP that use hammer system, the tank which store high pressure air will release air into chamber when the valve assembly is hit (and hold open) by hammer. Aside from valve spring, the valve is also pushed from the tank side by the air pressure.
In rifle with rather weak hammer spring (or too hard valve spring), the extra pressure from tank can cause the valve to close sooner, which release less air. Sometimes overfilling cause valve lock (i.e.the hammer can't push open the valve at all)
I think here the curve is more pronounced because the aspen tank is small volume.
@@dimasakbar7668 yes. basically, the pressure is what closes the valve. high pressure can close it too fast.
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I wish you would make a video on how to tune this air rifle. It's too bad that is not available in .25, and regulated. Having a built in air pump, wouldn't it be subject to wearing out of the seals at a fast rate where they have to be replaced often?
It is also available in .25
With this gun, you are the regulator. Find the sweet spot in the psi range, and give it several pumps after every few shots and just stay in that zone. This also keeps the pump from getting overheated pumping from zero to completely full in one go.
The provided silicone oil is key, and pump slowly
what more do you need ! would love a higher quality maker to take this idea up
It almost sounded like the gun was saying "asssssman" at the end of the video?..... Nicely played.
BTW it looks like a really good value for anyone wanting to explore PCP shooting.
How does the 177 and the 25 stack up against the 22?
I think it is a great entry level PCP so I ordered one,
Too bad there are so many that have no idea WLF they are talking about.
Oh yea, I shoot centerfire too....
Lmfao!! Great production. Looks like the low power setting on the 22 was providing more power.
That gun is quite good for the money and purpose
How does this gun handle moisture, since standard pumps have moisture removal systems. This gun will pump humid air right into the chamber. Do you think this will cause problems?
if they don't reply I guess it doesn't handle it very well. lol. what a bummer.
ATI didn't respond, but Airgun supply did tell me the gun has 2 moisture filters built in. So that is good.
ATG assisted & was told Silica is inside and under barrel.
So the results = dry air
I've been thinking of getting a Marauder for a while but this has me re-thinking it. My main concern about the Aspen is the possibility of water in the air reservoir or valve from a lot of pumping. I see conflicting information about desiccant in the pump or reservoir. Any thoughts on this, Airgun Depot? I don't want to buy a problem.
The Aspen has an inline desiccant that should reduce moisture in the reservoir, and it shouldn't be too much of a problem one way or another since the reservoir is so small and any accumulated moisture would likely get shot out pretty quickly.
The way this is designed could it in any way be shortened to 36.5 inches. Can the barrel be taken down! I'd really love to. See a bullpup version. I want to fit one into my 100 liter survival rucksack! Another preferable idea would be a flip over stock!
I want to put a tactical scope w a laser and a reflex holographic site. I haven't ordered my aspen 22 from you yet but I would like to order it from you tomorrow. I just want to know if you think that it's a good idea. I also would need an adapter that converts to a picatiny.
UTG makes an Weaver/dovetail adapter that we like, and either a scope or a red dot would be good choices for it.
Did you ever end up buying one?? I'm very interested. How is it?? Power? accuracy? loudness? Speed? Groups well?? Intial trigger pull?? Etc
I love my aspen. Tight groups@ 50 yards. Hitting the same hole all the time at fifty with the included scope. Buy a nice long rang scope to get more accurate. The scope that came w the aspen is ok out to fifty w practice. I get 30 plus shots out of 250 bar. Can keep shooting until gun is almost out of air accurately
Trigger pull is good. Haven't made an adjustment yet but I will soon. Also take a break after pumping it up so that your heartbeat doesn't ruin your shot.... Barrel jumping around while trying to aim... Holds pressure good.. Even after a couple days.
Very powerful and quiet
Awesome gun , Where can we get one of these in the UK?
Don't waste your money. I have the UK legal sub 12 ft lbs version known as the Nova Vista.
It's heavy, the stock is a cheap plastic affair which consists of 3 pieces, the pump handle locking button disengages at the slightest knock, so no carrying the rifle by it as you would expect you'd be able to, the pump handle twists when in use causing the handle end to catch the stock causing damage, if you don't do a full range of movement pump of the onboard pump it gets an air lock and refuses to budge from a 45 degree angle without some serious persuasion and the general feel to the rifle is cheap and nasty. I have numerous other rifles which I'm a capable hunter with but with the nova vista I couldn't hit a damn thing. Then, not even after 9 months in which time I took good care of it it decided to spring a leak from the seal joining the air cylinder to the action. No biggy I thought as it's an easy fix. Oh how wrong was I. SMK who manufacturers these rifles for the UK saw fit to put an anti tamper bolt in to prevent removal of the air cylinder!? And due to quarantine etc SMK are only doing warranty repairs which I should have been covered by but the email address provided in the info booklet was non existent so by the time I'd researched and found out SMK were the manufacturers the warranty had run out. 😤
Thanks for heads up Paul
@@paulgreen2416 Is the Seneca Aspen an improvement on this gun, Paul, or is it the same scenario?
4: 51, my trigger adjusts well. I turned it down to 2.1 lbs and it's a great trigger in every respect, helping to get the most of the very good accuracy the gun has.
My grip isn't slippery.
The only real problem with these otherwise fantastic guns is they're unreliable. The mfg went 80% of the way, then threw the ball away. It would be great if a mfg would design and make one without the deficiencies.
Oh no. I was getting kind of excited and considering breaking some piggy banks. What kind of problems are you having, and did the manufacturer help you out?
@@klrscout Go to this review: th-cam.com/video/5l58GxFItDg/w-d-xo.html and read the comments
Very good bang for your buck,,Good review
Absolutely loved the intro.... Always good to have some humor 😜
i noticed in the presentation part of video it has a front sight ,does it also come with open sights ,if the scope breaks in the field ,open sights are nice to have !
One of the main differences between the Seneca Aspen and the Nova Freedom is that the Aspen comes with an AO scope, and the Freedom has sights. We tested the Freedom's to see if we liked them and forgot to take them off the gun till partway through the video.
THANKS BROTHER ,LIKE ALWAYS ,FANTASTIC REVIEW !!!
ONE MORE THING ,DOES THE NOVA FREEDOM HAVE A BACK POWER ADJUST AS WELL ?
Yes
Should the air rifle be stored with pressure in the cylinder or none?
All PCPs are best off being stored with at around 1000psi in the tank.