I've had my Aspen for 20 months, shooting almost every day. I sent back two because of the pump problem. The pump problems are not yet fixed, as of summer of 2021. The pump must not be worked fast, because of the intense heat produced inside. My .22 Aspen has made all my other air rifles obsolete. And I have a few fast shooting, accurate gas piston guns. They sit there now. The Aspen makes it easy to hit a starling at 40 yards. It's fairly quiet. Fast. I don't own a $700 compressor needing maintenance and expense. But the pumps are not reliable. I highly recommend one for hunting while the pump o-rings last. I lube it a few drops using the included silicone oil, every only 10 shots and pump it slowly. Even the good looking safety is in the right place, which is more than I can say for many others. And it's quiet to move to fire position. The side lever is great. The pump is in need of redesign.
@@Tellin08 , I use the silicone oil supplied with the gun, and I've bought more. After typing the above, I've had 2 more times of the pump failing, so oil just a few drops along the pump tube and in the provided hole every time I refill a magazine- every 10 shots. And now I pump 10 strokes and let the gun sit for 10 minutes for the pump interior to cool. Type: YT, Big J's Outdoor and Airguns. See his video on rebuilding the pump. Seems the pump is going to need rebuilding quite often. Seneca guns are quality, but these pumps need a redesign by an aftermarket shop. I've changed from a UTG 3 - 9 × 40 to a UTG 6 - 24 × 50 for better seeing at 60 y.
I got mine early in 2019 . Had pressure lose , that was cured by a drop of lube on each of the two o-rings on pellet probe . Have not had any problems since . No pump poblems (yet , knock on wood) . I do expect it to happen one day . I will not be returning it , I will tear it down and figure it out myself . I am surprised that no one has done a rebuild video yet . I do lube it before each outing , not a crazy amount ; but hitting all the points . Think of it like the old machinery that used cup oilers . Mine is in .22 cal . I really like it ! But honestly could not recommend it .....But I wouldn't give mine up either . One of love , hate relationships I guess .
@@OffGridMadMan Yes , there is a commonly reported problem of the pump locking up . The o-ring failing inside the pump . Once the knowledge of rebuilding the pump comes out , should negate the problem if one is inclined to repair the pump yourself . Repair videos are often impeded by the legality of injury . Which brings me to : If someone is willing to make the video but afraid of legal issues . Send me the video and I will repost it under my name . I do really like mine though . "Your mileage may very ."
@@264fan Thanks for the reply. I think I'll pass for now until they upgrade it perhaps. The Gamo Phox package looks good value. I'd like an FX Independence but they're silly money! So many toys to choose from, I wish there was just ONE.....! :p
@@OffGridMadMan They have fixed the pump issue if you're still interested. But with the price of compressors being $245 on eBay nowadays IDK if it's worth it anymore. The Avenger with a cheap 12v compressor is the way to go IMO especially since it's regulated you get high shot counts with a 177 pellet. Depending on what FPE you're shooting at with the lowest setting you can get well over 60 shots per fill.
I finally bought this gun...at the range it is very accurate...it about shots before you need to pump it up about 30 pumps to get it in a ready state...for the money you can't do better...all you need is the gun and some pellets or slugs...I had no difficulty with the pump...the scope is just fine! If the SHTF and there are no air tanks or electricity the Aspen will always be ready to shoot.
Thank you for watching. Well, kind of the whole point though is to NOT do it from empty. Here is a good video on how to properly operate the Aspen. Don't forget like and subscribe so you get notified of future videos.
Got my self one of these less than a year ago. I have the .22 by the way. Not threw Pyramydair mind you. But! It very slowly leaked from day one and this is a common observation, Also; I have experienced failure with the pump not presurizing. Also have read the pump locks up. I think its cheep because its a great purchase if you like taking things apart and rebuilding them... The pump.. I have one in the closet right now that wont pump up and I just don't have time to mess with because I'd rather be out there shooting on my free time.
I recently bought one of these, I had problems with the pump it locked up on me and it wouldn't hold air. I did the alcohol flush for pump airguns, let it alone for one day after that I removed the grub screw for degassing it and flushed the excess isopropyl alcohol, I let it alone another day and it started to pump and hold air I lubricated it with 6 drops of silicone and it has been working great I've had it for 2 weeks and shot it every day.
It's very important when pumping to pump S-L-O-W-L-Y.... Just like a normal hand pump at PCP pressures, this pump will get very hot very quickly if you're firing a lot of shots and pumping too fast. The first one of these I owned wound up unable to be pumped anymore because I damaged the pumping mechanism from heat by pumping too fast...
You are 100% correct,,whenever pumping anything,,Hand or Power,,pay close attention to the heat it produces,,stop and let it cool if necessary,,I remember when hand pump for my bicycle tires back in the days, I put running water at the hot spots,,LOL :)
80 pumps from empty to full. Who wants to pump anything 80 times slowly?? Just asking :^) I think it was like 30 pumps between clips.. 2 min. shooting targets and 15 min. pumping..?? When I get around to rebuilding mine I'll be replacing o-rings with something used in hydraulics. The key feature of the product is the crappiest.
Don't tou guys ever oil your onboard pump like the owners manual clearly states as part of its regular routine maintenance. My Aspen is a beast puttin out 58.5 fpe. at the muzzle on the high setting with 30.86 gr. barracudas. That's the magic pellet for my Aspen. I purchased an assortment of grain weight slugs from Nielsen specialty ammo and FYI the Aspen barrel doesn't like slugs at all. Super sluggish. I get nearly 63fps more velocity with a RWS 25gr. hollowpoint pellet but not without sacrificing over 10 fpe. Overall anything lighter than the barracudas down to the 20 gr. Field target pellets, the accuracy was still there but I would use those weights for smaller game while using the barracudas for coyotes under 40 yards. It's an awesome air rifle but I'm still in love with my newest addition with the 357 Airforce Texan. And with that gun all I can say is ZZzzzzzwowwwww. Using 148 grain boattail .358 swaged slugs from Nielson specialty ammo, coyotes are easy pickins at 200 yards.
EVERY COMPANY SHOULD BE MAKING AND OFFERING A SIMILAR LAR TO THE ASPEN SELF CONTAINED BUILT IN PUMP GUN! I want to see some self contained shorter bullpups around 30 to 35 inches total length. Stick it in your 100 liter rucksack for survival and descent midrange accuracy and power. THE COMPANY TO DO IT IN SEMI AUTO AROUND 700 TO 800 FPS WILL SELL OUT!
I just saw this review. What a fantastic rifle. This is a great deal. As a hunting platform. This rifle is unbeatable. Awesome review, as always brother. Thanks and God bless you.
Ray Smith is exactly right. 400$ for a gun that might be worth 35$ ? 100% dissatisfied disappointed & done with it. I wouldn't kick a dead hog in the ass for this aggravating worthless p.o.s.
Love the vid and all that pyramydair does for its customers! What I've been wondering is what would be a ballpark for expected fps if our were to put heavier pellets through it then the typical ones you'd use like the H&N Rabbit Magnum? It would potentially be able to get the fpe equivalent of the Aspen in .25.
The concept is awesome. The build of the gun not so good from personal experience. I wanted this platform to work so bad I tried 3 of them . All had the same issue. The pump would lock up and become insanely difficult to bed. On the 3rd rifle I literally ended up bending the pumping lever trying to bed it into the stock. When they figure it out right I'll get another one!
Great review by Tyler most informative EXCEPT maintenance of “O” Rings and oil port. You guys need to stress the importance and types of oil to use. Silicons or Pellet Gun Oil OR what you would recommend. This might help those that are having leaking problems or loss of power. I have had the Aspen for over two years and just now starting to lose power maybe due to usage and “O”ring wear. Otherwise “my “gun has performed as good as any of the 24 Air Rifles I own with the Aspen being my only PCP but looking to improve that and purchase a small Nomad Compressor. Thank you for an Informative Video which I would recommend before purchasing!
I was really thinking about buying a Seneca Aspen'but i'm a little worried about them 'most of the review's .say the pump's freeze up 'or they start leaking after just a few shots
I would Seriously advise anyone against buying this gun. The magazine turret has Never worked. If u don't mind using it like a bolt action & loading each individual pellet it might be ok for you but the magazine has worked for...Nobody??
Been waiting for this in 25 caliber,,, now not really impressed. I got a gamo multi shot .22 to hold me over... love it.. I think I'll just get the carnivore 39 cal.. 2 guns same price, broad spectrum of applications, if ones down the other will do.
Returning to the Aspen after a few years or so .. Loved the idea of this instantly back then. Looks good also.. But. Read many of these were failing and breaking quite quickly by quite new owners. Has these become any better nowadays? I mean reliable actually. Would not like to spend cash on a rifle that is destined to break rather instantly after purchase.. Any amateur airgun techs out there that has solved the common issue(s) on this Aspen?
Question..... I have been looking at this gun, simply because all the "support gear" isn't required. It's always urked me that for PCP I'd have to spend more for the support gear (tank, compressor, etc) than the gun. OK....... I have read that a LOT of owner have experienced failure of the air system....some with as little as 50-60 rounds....... Comments? Thoughts? Information on this??
I own this gun mines great 3/8" group at 35yds. It's kind of heavy with my scope but I love this rifle because of the pump and the power it has keep it oiled up great gun.
Definitely a sweet gun . I would buy one if it had iron sights . I have never been a fan of scopes and I cannot understand why most of these air guns are coming out without any iron sights . Great review though and thanks for sharing .
I love that it has the pump, what I'm trying to get a grip on is how many pumps am i making to maintain pressure per shot? Am i pumping 8, 10, 15 pumps? If it's that high a number I think I prefer a break action single pump gun.
Thomas Broking ... Air gun guru Tom Gaylord did a detailed review on this gun for Pyramid Air, and found that it needs 3-5 pumps between shots to maintain pressure.
@@nmarbletoe8210 4 . no sense making half a pump. What do you think, do you prefer it over a break action?? I'd have the tank I'm sure. Pumping will keep the kids busy. Have fun with it
@@thomasbroking7943 I do love my Ruger break action, but the ATI Nova Freedom/ aka Aspen/ is another level of beast. It's more precise, a lot quieter, hits a lot harder... 10 shots magazine, silky side lever, the trigger is a dream... . Sometimes I still reach for the Ruger for the wood stock and simplicity, and the bang, but the ATI is above and beyond. . Nevertheless, I am looking at getting a .177 break barrel sometime like the Umarex Embark. The simplicity of one pump, one pellet, one shot is really fun.
I bought this gun about a year ago. Now it's leaking air so bad that I can't even pump at all. Air keeps leaking out. You can hear it too. Got 0 psi now. Junk. I added oil, still it didn't help.
The way this is designed could it in any way be shortened to 36.5 inches. Can the barrel be taken down! I'd really love to. See a bullpup version. I want to fit one into my 100 liter survival rucksack! Another preferable idea would be a flip over stock!
Most of the ones I saw for sale ,the pumps were broken. ..I would maybe try one of these if they improved the pump. And made the tank bigger..Innovative but needs work on the pump..
why doesnt it have some sort of low profile iron sights since this is supposed to be a self reliable rifle also has these o rings problems everyone keeps talking about been fixed because those two things are whats holding be back from purchasing?
How is the pressure loaded or added with an eternal tank? What is the max prssure HP air. 4500 or 3000. How is it done? What size and pressure tank can be used?
It comes with a fill probe . The port is located beneath the pump handle . 3650 psi max pressure on board . Any pcp type tank can be used . If the tank has a regulator the rifle may be used as tethered .
Hey tyler... do you personally clean the barrel when you buy a new gun or not? I hear it doesnt really matter? Some say yes and some say no... just wondering your take on good accuracy... thank you
Is this regulated? I'm about to purchase my first PCP gun from your website and i'm coming from a break barrel. I was looking at the Gauntlet in .22 but I love the idea of a built in pump since I had one from crosman all the way back when I was a kid.
No. The fact that there is an on board pump means you are essentially self regulating it by pumping after a couple shots to keep it within the sweet spot pressure range.
I would have bought this rifle in.25 Cal but it just doesn't have the power to use slugs😒. I have enough pellet rifles. I'd have bought it even if it only shot once or twice before requiring more pumps for air.........give us 950 fps babyyyyyyy!😄
So far so good for the ones I've shot. You can fill the cylinder to less than 3600 psi if you like. I wouldn't recommend shooting it down to empty. Leave it between 2000 psi and full and you'll be okay.
@@asimmehmood7452 They're completely different....not even a fair comparison really. The Aspen is much easier to shoot purely because it's a PCP, and not a spring or gas piston gun.
3 to 4 good shots 🤷♂️ ..i feel like airgun companies that don't regulate there guns shouldn't charge as much.they tell us 25 shots but in reality we only get 12 from that 25..we have to find the power curve 2 get those shots...why not tell us from what pressure 2 what pressure u get those shots, u built the gun u should know...if we can't get those 25 shots why not take a couple of $100's off the price...just make since 2 me...
I think you missed the point of the gun man. This is not and never will be a high shot count gun, but the on board pump means you have limitless shots with relatively low effort. So long as you keep the gun in that usable pressure range, you're going to get good consistent shots. I hear you about manufacturers claims. Most manufacturers use an 8-10% range of the high velocity to get their shot count numbers, which leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. But bear in mind, the reason I personally look for sub 25 fps total spreads is because I know any more than that will start to create enough velocity change at 45 yards to impact my grounds. If we were shooting closer than that, the usable velocity spread would increase. So it all depends on your use and your expectations.
Roland Siriban yeah, if u zoom in on the barrel in the pictures you can see it. I believe on the left side. I had outpatient surgery yesterday and hadn't slept last night when I saw your question. That was the only response I could muster. Even so, I am strongly considering it. I just wish it was in .35 caliber. Making me consider a Seneca Recluse for $300 more. It does Not have a pump, which I do really like, but it's also is what is scaring me away. So many pump problems. Loss of pressure is because people won't oil regularly. But how hard/fast are people pumping these things to break the pump. One woman side she broke six, I'm sorry, I call that user error. U gotta be stupid to break 6 rifles. Anyway, stay safe my friend !!!
Would this airgun fall under Canada's firearm laws? Like on low its 500 fps but in high its over so would ship this to a Canadian without a PAL license?
I had three of these guns. They really suck .But what was really worse was that on version 3 when I broke an internal part , I was told that there were no parts available and they didn't have any idea when or if the part would be available. Buy something else.
This is one of the reasons I'd recommend filling from an external source for that first fill and then using the pump from there to top the gun up. I haven't seen any issues with moisture in the gun at this point, and I can tell you that the 8-10 pumps to keep the gun topped up isn't going to generate enough heat to be an issue.
Looks like a good deal for the price but that clunker pump handle and having to pump it every few, less than 10 shots is a deal breaker for me. Seriously, I am in the market for a PCP. What is the most bang for my buck up to $1200? I am looking hard at the Dreamline either DreamPup or DreamLite. I know they are not shipping yet. I want a one and done gun. Never look back gun.
Dreamline is a good option, or an Air Arms S510 XS in one of the standard stocks. Dreamlines are slowly trickling in, but most are back ordered into April/May at this point.
P. A. Has to offer a scope option.......... I don’t want that cheap scope, and have to buy a different more powerful scope to maximize the use of this rifle. My latest information on P.A. is that they will not give you credit for that scope towards a better one.......... and I think that just sucks......... because now I have to wait and see if they eventually will offer an option to upgrade the scope. I want this rifle........... But I don’t want to pay $400.00up front........ and then have to spend another $100.00 or more on a better more powerful scope. Come on Pyramid Air......... You are better than this, and besides...... you probably will sell more Aspen Seneca rifles if you offered a scope option. Peace.
Not really. It's not hard to pump and you -- and the gun -- are much better off pumping at a moderate to slow pace. I usually end up pumping my .25 around a 150 times in a half hour bench rest session.
Great review except.......... using nut job anti gun Jim Carrey clips, maybe some irony there. Sorry but he wouldn't even allow you to have an air gun if he had his way.
Bro seriously I'm about to sign you up for dollar shave club. What is going on With that thing. I have read however that beard hair can be used as baffle material for air gun silencers
Just because you can't grow a solid bear, doesn't mean you should take it out on me bro! Yes, makes good baffle material, this is true. How about this, send me a Leshiy to keep, and I'll shave it on camera....deal???
Good review other than the constant inset parts of the idiot actor Jim Carrey. That was extremely irritating to the point of me stopping the video. We get it. The name is Aspen. We don’t need the idiocy to remind us of the name that’s in the title if we forget.
This is one of the most shittiest pellet guns up ever bought my pump went bad on me I sent it back into paramed air and they never did properly fix it I have thrown it into my airgun junk Heap
I've had my Aspen for 20 months, shooting almost every day. I sent back two because of the pump problem. The pump problems are not yet fixed, as of summer of 2021. The pump must not be worked fast, because of the intense heat produced inside.
My .22 Aspen has made all my other air rifles obsolete. And I have a few fast shooting, accurate gas piston guns. They sit there now. The Aspen makes it easy to hit a starling at 40 yards. It's fairly quiet. Fast. I don't own a $700 compressor needing maintenance and expense. But the pumps are not reliable.
I highly recommend one for hunting while the pump o-rings last. I lube it a few drops using the included silicone oil, every only 10 shots and pump it slowly.
Even the good looking safety is in the right place, which is more than I can say for many others. And it's quiet to move to fire position. The side lever is great. The pump is in need of redesign.
Thanks for your review. What type of oil do you use and where do you oil it?
@@Tellin08 , I use the silicone oil supplied with the gun, and I've bought more. After typing the above, I've had 2 more times of the pump failing, so oil just a few drops along the pump tube and in the provided hole every time I refill a magazine- every 10 shots. And now I pump 10 strokes and let the gun sit for 10 minutes for the pump interior to cool.
Type: YT, Big J's Outdoor and Airguns. See his video on rebuilding the pump. Seems the pump is going to need rebuilding quite often. Seneca guns are quality, but these pumps need a redesign by an aftermarket shop.
I've changed from a UTG 3 - 9 × 40 to a UTG 6 - 24 × 50 for better seeing at 60 y.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Thank so much man.
I got mine early in 2019 . Had pressure lose , that was cured by a drop of lube on each of the two o-rings on pellet probe . Have not had any problems since . No pump poblems (yet , knock on wood) . I do expect it to happen one day . I will not be returning it , I will tear it down and figure it out myself . I am surprised that no one has done a rebuild video yet . I do lube it before each outing , not a crazy amount ; but hitting all the points . Think of it like the old machinery that used cup oilers . Mine is in .22 cal . I really like it ! But honestly could not recommend it .....But I wouldn't give mine up either . One of love , hate relationships I guess .
I'm in the UK and thinking of getting one in .177 - Why wouldn't you recommend it? I'd love to know if it's been known to have any major/minor issues.
@@OffGridMadMan Yes , there is a commonly reported problem of the pump locking up . The o-ring failing inside the pump . Once the knowledge of rebuilding the pump comes out , should negate the problem if one is inclined to repair the pump yourself . Repair videos are often impeded by the legality of injury . Which brings me to : If someone is willing to make the video but afraid of legal issues . Send me the video and I will repost it under my name . I do really like mine though . "Your mileage may very ."
@@264fan Thanks for the reply. I think I'll pass for now until they upgrade it perhaps. The Gamo Phox package looks good value. I'd like an FX Independence but they're silly money! So many toys to choose from, I wish there was just ONE.....! :p
@@OffGridMadMan They have fixed the pump issue if you're still interested. But with the price of compressors being $245 on eBay nowadays IDK if it's worth it anymore. The Avenger with a cheap 12v compressor is the way to go IMO especially since it's regulated you get high shot counts with a 177 pellet. Depending on what FPE you're shooting at with the lowest setting you can get well over 60 shots per fill.
@@264fan , type: TH-cam, Big J's Outdoor and Airguns. Find his video on rebuilding the Aspen pump.
I finally bought this gun...at the range it is very accurate...it about shots before you need to pump it up about 30 pumps to get it in a ready state...for the money you can't do better...all you need is the gun and some pellets or slugs...I had no difficulty with the pump...the scope is just fine! If the SHTF and there are no air tanks or electricity the Aspen will always be ready to shoot.
80 strokes to fill to 250 bar . Thanks Tyler .
Thank you for watching. Well, kind of the whole point though is to NOT do it from empty. Here is a good video on how to properly operate the Aspen. Don't forget like and subscribe so you get notified of future videos.
Got my self one of these less than a year ago. I have the .22 by the way. Not threw Pyramydair mind you. But! It very slowly leaked from day one and this is a common observation, Also; I have experienced failure with the pump not presurizing. Also have read the pump locks up. I think its cheep because its a great purchase if you like taking things apart and rebuilding them... The pump.. I have one in the closet right now that wont pump up and I just don't have time to mess with because I'd rather be out there shooting on my free time.
I love .25 cal, it's a do-all caliber for small game and even some larger critters.
I recently bought one of these, I had problems with the pump it locked up on me and it wouldn't hold air. I did the alcohol flush for pump airguns, let it alone for one day after that I removed the grub screw for degassing it and flushed the excess isopropyl alcohol, I let it alone another day and it started to pump and hold air I lubricated it with 6 drops of silicone and it has been working great I've had it for 2 weeks and shot it every day.
It's very important when pumping to pump S-L-O-W-L-Y.... Just like a normal hand pump at PCP pressures, this pump will get very hot very quickly if you're firing a lot of shots and pumping too fast. The first one of these I owned wound up unable to be pumped anymore because I damaged the pumping mechanism from heat by pumping too fast...
JaleelJohanson62 that’s really cool to share your mistakes so we don’t
thank you for the exp.
You are 100% correct,,whenever pumping anything,,Hand or Power,,pay close attention to the heat it produces,,stop and let it cool if necessary,,I remember when hand pump for my bicycle tires back in the days, I put running water at the hot spots,,LOL :)
80 pumps from empty to full. Who wants to pump anything 80 times slowly?? Just asking :^)
I think it was like 30 pumps between clips.. 2 min. shooting targets and 15 min. pumping..?? When I get around to rebuilding mine I'll be replacing o-rings with something used in hydraulics. The key feature of the product is the crappiest.
John I was going to answer you, but your post is so stupid it doesn't deserve it.
Don't tou guys ever oil your onboard pump like the owners manual clearly states as part of its regular routine maintenance. My Aspen is a beast puttin out 58.5 fpe. at the muzzle on the high setting with 30.86 gr. barracudas. That's the magic pellet for my Aspen. I purchased an assortment of grain weight slugs from Nielsen specialty ammo and FYI the Aspen barrel doesn't like slugs at all. Super sluggish. I get nearly 63fps more velocity with a RWS 25gr. hollowpoint pellet but not without sacrificing over 10 fpe. Overall anything lighter than the barracudas down to the 20 gr. Field target pellets, the accuracy was still there but I would use those weights for smaller game while using the barracudas for coyotes under 40 yards. It's an awesome air rifle but I'm still in love with my newest addition with the 357 Airforce Texan.
And with that gun all I can say is ZZzzzzzwowwwww. Using 148 grain boattail .358 swaged slugs from Nielson specialty ammo, coyotes are easy pickins at 200 yards.
EVERY COMPANY SHOULD BE MAKING AND OFFERING A SIMILAR LAR TO THE ASPEN SELF CONTAINED BUILT IN PUMP GUN! I want to see some self contained shorter bullpups around 30 to 35 inches total length. Stick it in your 100 liter rucksack for survival and descent midrange accuracy and power. THE COMPANY TO DO IT IN SEMI AUTO AROUND 700 TO 800 FPS WILL SELL OUT!
Also the trigger worked well long first stage and very crisp second stage. The rifle shoots better the more I use it.
I just saw this review. What a fantastic rifle. This is a great deal. As a hunting platform. This rifle is unbeatable. Awesome review, as always brother. Thanks and God bless you.
It is actually a very shity gun
Ray Smith is exactly right. 400$ for a gun that might be worth 35$ ? 100% dissatisfied disappointed & done with it. I wouldn't kick a dead hog in the ass for this aggravating worthless p.o.s.
Nice review Tyler.
Love the vid and all that pyramydair does for its customers! What I've been wondering is what would be a ballpark for expected fps if our were to put heavier pellets through it then the typical ones you'd use like the H&N Rabbit Magnum? It would potentially be able to get the fpe equivalent of the Aspen in .25.
i like how you fast forward to the shots, and skip the pumping and the loading etc., right to the heart of the matter.
A game changer in the world of PCP's. Next time focus more on it's durability, with high shot count per fill and with highest velocity. 😋😘
Too many "Review" videos are instead a commercial.
Nice idea , but like light weight rifles , maybe a carbine version in the future ?
The concept is awesome. The build of the gun not so good from personal experience. I wanted this platform to work so bad I tried 3 of them . All had the same issue. The pump would lock up and become insanely difficult to bed. On the 3rd rifle I literally ended up bending the pumping lever trying to bed it into the stock. When they figure it out right I'll get another one!
When that happens you can’t pump it degas it an start over
@@PeterAgostiniJdcap26 Or get a rifle that works like it's designed to.
@@SouthWestIron dumped it of my list thanks.
Great review by Tyler most informative EXCEPT maintenance of “O” Rings and oil port.
You guys need to stress the importance and types of oil to use.
Silicons or Pellet Gun Oil OR what you would recommend.
This might help those that are having leaking problems or loss of power.
I have had the Aspen for over two years and just now starting to lose power maybe due to usage and “O”ring wear.
Otherwise “my “gun has performed as good as any of the 24 Air Rifles I own with the Aspen being my only PCP but looking to improve that and purchase a small Nomad Compressor.
Thank you for an Informative Video which I would recommend before purchasing!
I'll be getting mine next week and .25 can't wait
@Rob hill did not get one I heard too much bad stuff about it so I got me a 25 caliber Hatsan instead and I really enjoy it
Good luck the Aspen is a shity air gun the pump fails quite a bit
I'd saw the stock off just past the pistol grip and semi-bullpup it. Cool gun.
I was really thinking about buying a Seneca Aspen'but i'm a little worried about them 'most of the review's .say the pump's freeze up 'or they start leaking after just a few shots
I would Seriously advise anyone against buying this gun. The magazine turret has Never worked. If u don't mind using it like a bolt action & loading each individual pellet it might be ok for you but the magazine has worked for...Nobody??
I like having the ability to pump it up in the field. Is this the only pcp air gun with a built in pump?
I've been successfully NOT buying the Aspen because she only came in .177 & .22.....
Now I've no excuses.....
How about shipping in the philippines
Dont buy one....
What velocities were you seeing from the 25 Cal in the video with the 33 grain jsbs?
Very technical and professional feedback.... thanks
Been waiting for this in 25 caliber,,, now not really impressed. I got a gamo multi shot .22 to hold me over... love it.. I think I'll just get the carnivore 39 cal.. 2 guns same price, broad spectrum of applications, if ones down the other will do.
Returning to the Aspen after a few years or so ..
Loved the idea of this instantly back then. Looks good also..
But. Read many of these were failing and breaking quite quickly by quite new owners.
Has these become any better nowadays? I mean reliable actually. Would not like to spend cash on a rifle that is destined to break rather instantly after purchase..
Any amateur airgun techs out there that has solved the common issue(s) on this Aspen?
Question..... I have been looking at this gun, simply because all the "support gear" isn't required. It's always urked me that for PCP I'd have to spend more for the support gear (tank, compressor, etc) than the gun. OK....... I have read that a LOT of owner have experienced failure of the air system....some with as little as 50-60 rounds....... Comments? Thoughts? Information on this??
Anyone had one of these for a while? I really fancy it but have concerns about reliability,etc..... :/ Cheers from UK.
Waiting a review of the hatsan speedfire.
Just being honest here, it will likely be a while, if we do one at all.
The speed fire sucks breaks
I own this gun mines great 3/8" group at 35yds. It's kind of heavy with my scope but I love this rifle because of the pump and the power it has keep it oiled up great gun.
Definitely a sweet gun . I would buy one if it had iron sights . I have never been a fan of scopes and I cannot understand why most of these air guns are coming out without any iron sights .
Great review though and thanks for sharing .
look up nova freedom basically the same exact gun but it has ironsights out of the box
I'll do that . thanks for the info .
I just ordered one from Pyramid. Should have it by Friday. Hope its a winner.
@Rob hilllove it. The scope could be better but defenitely usable. Accurate and consistent. I keep it around 3200.
@Rob hill i find the stock very comfortable. it looks bulky but it fits nice and the pump handle bulk is actually helpful on standing freehand shots.
I love that it has the pump, what I'm trying to get a grip on is how many pumps am i making to maintain pressure per shot? Am i pumping 8, 10, 15 pumps? If it's that high a number I think I prefer a break action single pump gun.
Thomas Broking ... Air gun guru Tom Gaylord did a detailed review on this gun for Pyramid Air, and found that it needs 3-5 pumps between shots to maintain pressure.
I just counted 3.5 pumps per shot on Low.
It took 35 pumps to refill after 10 shots on Low power, from 3000 PSI to 2500 and back again.
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@@nmarbletoe8210 4 . no sense making half a pump. What do you think, do you prefer it over a break action??
I'd have the tank I'm sure. Pumping will keep the kids busy. Have fun with it
@@thomasbroking7943 I do love my Ruger break action, but the ATI Nova Freedom/ aka Aspen/ is another level of beast. It's more precise, a lot quieter, hits a lot harder... 10 shots magazine, silky side lever, the trigger is a dream...
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Sometimes I still reach for the Ruger for the wood stock and simplicity, and the bang, but the ATI is above and beyond.
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Nevertheless, I am looking at getting a .177 break barrel sometime like the Umarex Embark. The simplicity of one pump, one pellet, one shot is really fun.
I bought this gun about a year ago. Now it's leaking air so bad that I can't even pump at all. Air keeps leaking out. You can hear it too. Got 0 psi now. Junk. I added oil, still it didn't help.
How many pumps per shot. if your 2000psi and shoot. how many pumps to get back to 2000psi
Watch this short video to see how to operate it: th-cam.com/video/xDiOG7biSIw/w-d-xo.html
The way this is designed could it in any way be shortened to 36.5 inches. Can the barrel be taken down! I'd really love to. See a bullpup version. I want to fit one into my 100 liter survival rucksack! Another preferable idea would be a flip over stock!
What would say would be the effective range?
You said this is a gun you could leave by the door, does that mean all pumped up?
Pcp's are ok to leave full of air. You actually don't want to leave them empty. The seals hold up better under pressure.
Most of the ones I saw for sale ,the pumps were broken. ..I would maybe try one of these if they improved the pump. And made the tank bigger..Innovative but needs work on the pump..
Don't waste ur $$. Unless u want to be extremely disappointed
why doesnt it have some sort of low profile iron sights since this is supposed to be a self reliable rifle also has these o rings problems everyone keeps talking about been fixed because those two things are whats holding be back from purchasing?
They need to make a wood stock version of this
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How is the pressure loaded or added with an eternal tank?
What is the max prssure HP air. 4500 or 3000.
How is it done? What size and pressure tank can be used?
It comes with a fill probe . The port is located beneath the pump handle . 3650 psi max pressure on board . Any pcp type tank can be used . If the tank has a regulator the rifle may be used as tethered .
Hey tyler... do you personally clean the barrel when you buy a new gun or not? I hear it doesnt really matter? Some say yes and some say no... just wondering your take on good accuracy... thank you
Is this regulated? I'm about to purchase my first PCP gun from your website and i'm coming from a break barrel. I was looking at the Gauntlet in .22 but I love the idea of a built in pump since I had one from crosman all the way back when I was a kid.
No. The fact that there is an on board pump means you are essentially self regulating it by pumping after a couple shots to keep it within the sweet spot pressure range.
Hey I'm Billy from the predator
Can y'all do a review on the crossman valiant?
Reliability of the pump?
sherm dog,
The pumps are still failing after a few hundred shots. The reliability is 0.
Did they ever end up _fixing_ the problems with this?
Outstanding
Amazing!
How about shipping in philippines
Love this!!!
How many pumps do you need to get the 3600 PSI
I would have bought this rifle in.25 Cal but it just doesn't have the power to use slugs😒. I have enough pellet rifles. I'd have bought it even if it only shot once or twice before requiring more pumps for air.........give us 950 fps babyyyyyyy!😄
Why are pellets so expensive now on Pyramid? 34% Increase in price with no extra value.
Hello from England. Pumping up airguns by hand went out with the slingshot, thank goodness. We have PCP now, we have moved on. Don't want it.
Man Jim Carey is killing me haha
Dang it, now I might go PCP....
That would be the smart way to go,,unless you like pumping more than shooting,,LOL :)
have they fixed the pump leaking yet?
This looks exactly like a gun i was lookin for. What is the real gun equivalent of this air gun in terms of power? A .22?
Not really. More like 1/3 the power of .22 LR.
How much is the price of Seneca Aspen airgun?
Where the beer flows like wine
Eu mim amarro nessa carabina é top demais
Can this shoot slugs or hybrid pellets/slugs?
how many pumps does it take to fill from empty?
This .25 took about 80 from empty to get to 3600 psi. I'd say the last 10-15 pumps were more difficult than the rest, but it was very doable overall
Great film except for the fifth time that jerk said "ASPEN"...Thanks for the great info!!
Is this gun durable? Is it necessary to fill the cylinder completely or fill it when it's empty?
So far so good for the ones I've shot. You can fill the cylinder to less than 3600 psi if you like. I wouldn't recommend shooting it down to empty. Leave it between 2000 psi and full and you'll be okay.
@@tylerpatner6591 is this gun better than diana 54 air king, tx200, weiaurch hw 97 and hatsan 135qe.
@@asimmehmood7452 They're completely different....not even a fair comparison really. The Aspen is much easier to shoot purely because it's a PCP, and not a spring or gas piston gun.
Per l'acquisto come fare??, fino a che calibro arriva?? grazie
Hey guys,what do you think about walther parrus as good budget break barrel?
3 to 4 good shots 🤷♂️ ..i feel like airgun companies that don't regulate there guns shouldn't charge as much.they tell us 25 shots but in reality we only get 12 from that 25..we have to find the power curve 2 get those shots...why not tell us from what pressure 2 what pressure u get those shots, u built the gun u should know...if we can't get those 25 shots why not take a couple of $100's off the price...just make since 2 me...
I think you missed the point of the gun man. This is not and never will be a high shot count gun, but the on board pump means you have limitless shots with relatively low effort. So long as you keep the gun in that usable pressure range, you're going to get good consistent shots. I hear you about manufacturers claims. Most manufacturers use an 8-10% range of the high velocity to get their shot count numbers, which leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. But bear in mind, the reason I personally look for sub 25 fps total spreads is because I know any more than that will start to create enough velocity change at 45 yards to impact my grounds. If we were shooting closer than that, the usable velocity spread would increase. So it all depends on your use and your expectations.
@@tylerpatner6591 appreciate that so much
@Matthew Hayslett unless you grew up with a Sheridan 20cal you had to pump 8 times every shot for maximum efficiency...
Good day.. I ask..
Seneca aspin /nova freedom... Made in??????
Roland Siriban China
@@thatsmytwocents4372 thanks for your response...
Roland Siriban yeah, if u zoom in on the barrel in the pictures you can see it. I believe on the left side. I had outpatient surgery yesterday and hadn't slept last night when I saw your question.
That was the only response I could muster. Even so, I am strongly considering it. I just wish it was in .35 caliber. Making me consider a Seneca Recluse for $300 more. It does Not have a pump, which I do really like, but it's also is what is scaring me away. So many pump problems. Loss of pressure is because people won't oil regularly. But how hard/fast are people pumping these things to break the pump. One woman side she broke six, I'm sorry, I call that user error. U gotta be stupid to break 6 rifles. Anyway, stay safe my friend !!!
Would this airgun fall under Canada's firearm laws? Like on low its 500 fps but in high its over so would ship this to a Canadian without a PAL license?
Yes, it's definitely going to require PAL in Canada, too powerful
Asssspeeeeennnnn!!!!!!!!
How about schipping to Europe ?
Sir where can i buy it.and how much?thank you
You can buy it right here: www.pyramydair.com/product/seneca-aspen-pcp-air-rifle?m=4715
I had three of these guns. They really suck .But what was really worse was that on version 3 when I broke an internal part , I was told that there were no parts available and they didn't have any idea when or if the part would be available. Buy something else.
Is clone of the $400 American Tactical ( ATI ), Nova Freedom ?
Do you ship in Philippines?
Accessories for nova air rifle pcp
Will it get hot enough from pumping to create a moisture problem in the tank?
This is one of the reasons I'd recommend filling from an external source for that first fill and then using the pump from there to top the gun up. I haven't seen any issues with moisture in the gun at this point, and I can tell you that the 8-10 pumps to keep the gun topped up isn't going to generate enough heat to be an issue.
Tyler Patner thanks for the response.
Looks like a good deal for the price but that clunker pump handle and having to pump it every few, less than 10 shots is a deal breaker for me. Seriously, I am in the market for a PCP. What is the most bang for my buck up to $1200? I am looking hard at the Dreamline either DreamPup or DreamLite. I know they are not shipping yet. I want a one and done gun. Never look back gun.
Dreamline is a good option, or an Air Arms S510 XS in one of the standard stocks. Dreamlines are slowly trickling in, but most are back ordered into April/May at this point.
Remember the extra cost with other PCPs. The hand pump, or compressor and tank all increase the actual cost of the PCP.
Not so with the Aspen.
You are correct, but call me shallow but the looks turn me off. Further, I just think that handle is going to be in the way.
SENECA IS MADE IN KOREA?
Is this made in America ?
P. A. Has to offer a scope option..........
I don’t want that cheap scope, and have to buy a different more powerful scope to maximize the use of this rifle.
My latest information on P.A.
is that they will not give you credit for that scope towards a better one..........
and I think that just sucks......... because now I have to wait and see if they eventually will offer an option to upgrade the scope.
I want this rifle...........
But I don’t want to pay $400.00up front........ and then have to spend another $100.00 or more on a better more powerful scope.
Come on Pyramid Air.........
You are better than this,
and besides...... you probably will sell more Aspen Seneca rifles if you offered a scope option.
Peace.
My dad when i bought this gun: U are gonna f*cking fill it with the pump
Me filling it with compressor: hehe boi
She’s nice looking
After you pump 80 times you will be so tired that you can’t even shoot any more!
Not really. It's not hard to pump and you -- and the gun -- are much better off pumping at a moderate to slow pace. I usually end up pumping my .25 around a 150 times in a half hour bench rest session.
Anyone mention you could be a double for Zelensky? Great review!
Ehh... That's funny! I will pass it on to Tyler. Is it the looks or the tone or the voice?
@@pyramydair From what I remember the looks. Although… if he practiced Zelensky’s accent and did the review it would be hysterical 😆
I dont think id like a pen in my ass to be fair
Great review except.......... using nut job anti gun Jim Carrey clips, maybe some irony there. Sorry but he wouldn't even allow you to have an air gun if he had his way.
Glad SOMEBODY said it. Once may have been (very slightly) humorous
Yeah......... maybe is me........
but I don’t like to see freaks, or people who act freaky.........
Once would have been enough if that.
Bro seriously I'm about to sign you up for dollar shave club. What is going on With that thing. I have read however that beard hair can be used as baffle material for air gun silencers
Lmao
Just because you can't grow a solid bear, doesn't mean you should take it out on me bro! Yes, makes good baffle material, this is true. How about this, send me a Leshiy to keep, and I'll shave it on camera....deal???
Leshiys are the bomb i m lucky enough to have one.@@tylerpatner6591
@Matthew Hayslett Yeah just take out a second mortgage , sell a car , or work 3 jobs , whatever it takes bud. You won't regret the purchase.
It’s a tikhar
That stock and the pistol grip look terribly uncomfortable. It looks like someone just carved it with a dull knife.
POS,don't but it.
why?
Its absolutely JUNK!
Good review other than the constant inset parts of the idiot actor Jim Carrey. That was extremely irritating to the point of me stopping the video. We get it. The name is Aspen. We don’t need the idiocy to remind us of the name that’s in the title if we forget.
................ASPEN
So hey, I need to tell you something...
ASSSSSPEN
@@fuzzyfennec7493 I don't have anything to tell you so please stop........Asssspeeeeennnnn!
HahahahahahAssssssspennnnnnnn........ :p
Greyhound pneupump Made in china
Stock style sucks.
This is one of the most shittiest pellet guns up ever bought my pump went bad on me I sent it back into paramed air and they never did properly fix it I have thrown it into my airgun junk Heap
This air rifle is junk!
Pump is hot garbage & WILL fail...no ifs.
Once the pump fails the next thing that will happen is the reservoir won't hold air.
the worst airgun ever made! not a joke