TESLA MODEL S BATTERY TEARDOWN
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- TESLA Model S Battery Module j35.us/TeslaModelS-Mod
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Man, the work you do here is awesome, never stop.
I feel grateful this reconditioning program th-cam.com/users/postUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 was started. I had Three dead batteries scheduled for disposing of. Having said that, I tried out reconditioning them and it took me only an hour to do it! It doesn`t matter what type of battery you want, the process works.
I have alot of respect for you and your team keep the knowledge coming. 👏
Brilliant! Many thanks. Those things look really well made.
I love the fact he gets excited about bolts
este video ha sido uno de lo mas interesantes y mis estudios son en Ing electrónica. me gusta ver la belleza de una banco de baterias tan grande y como pueden hacer todo a la inversa para poder reusar. me encanta su canal
Big thanks for the video! Found you on Hackaday, subscribed!
Just saw your interview on motherboard. . .you now have a lifetime subscriber!
Keep building.
DIY4LYFE
LOL
Hello Jehu. I am very curious to know about the properties of the metal plates on top ascends bottom of the batteries to which the cells are wire bonded. Are these copper or nickel plated copper or nickel or aluminium plates?
Everywhere I searched on web and people just say metal plates. So which metal are they referring to?
Is there any way to use the tesla battery pack as is in a house powering system? With additional components to manage te power of course.
Curious if you've seen the cylindrical lithium iron batteries on ebay? Any reviews or thoughts on those.
Yo that Beat is sick from 0:17 sec. Keep up the great work, I'm inspired my friend.
Jehu,
I have a 2013 Leaf. Love the car! I have been interested in buying an extended range battery trailer like the one you did for your bus. Do you know anyplace that does that?
How would one go about putting one in a 3 gen prius plug in model it seems the telsa battery is way lighter smaller and alot more punch they put out thanks for any feedback
Thinking about buying one of these. But I need to split it in half so I can fit it into a Milwaukee PackOut dolly box.
And I’m wondering if that’s possible or worth the trouble?
Great video, where do i find the individual module connection configuration.
Hey Jehu. Thanks for the video!!! Nice to see those packs inside. For those of us that cant get Tesla batteries (other countries with no Teslas/EVwests), do you think the DIY 18650 is a good route, or too much of a hassle?
too much hassle only if you have something better
I wonder only one thing, how many liter coolant did you discharge from all battery? rough number would be enough for me. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the video guys.
What's the name of those sheets of "paper" at 4:38 ?
dude I have been watching your videos for some time now and I wonder if I can build a battery for car audio what u think
Wow, I just had a soft sigh of pleasure seeing this happening.., thanks dude for the awesome videos
is there a way to just use keep it together and install it in a home? i mean i'm sure that's way overkill, but it already looks so nice and put together
I legit have learned so much from ALL your videos 🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋👑👑👑👑👑🐐🐐🐐
I'd found your website, and wondered how you came to be selling these packs. Awesome... you guys are just south of Vista. We'll be in touch. Cheers.
Wow, sir, I really love you work and what you are doing, I just hope you see my comments
How much coolant was inside the whole battery? Just 1/4 of this bucket?
A hardcore teardown for some insane batteries.
Any idea what type of connector is used on the coolant loop to connect the modules to the pack?
Jehu, just here commenting a big THANK YOU to you hermano, I am building a battery/solar system with a chevy volt battery and your videos help me understand more about all this, again thanks
How many of this are equivalent to a tesla power wall? I'm looking for an alternative for my battery bank. And not break the bank with 3 power walls. Was hoping I could maybe salvage a Prius or tesla s
Anyway to charge each module pack on its own with a 24v charger? It looks like each battery pack has an individual BMS and not sure the layout of how they setup so many 4V cells to amount to 24v.
What is the brown sheet material ontop of each of the module?
wish I could afford one of these batteries just for my solar system. I like have like 100kw worth of back up or better.
4:52 what is that green liquid collected in bucket?
What is the total Dc volt& output of Tesla battery pack.what shoud be the battery charger volt& capacity.
Hi jehu how ya doing? Big fan here, love your videos buddy! I just checked out your link for these packs you put up for sale and I'm wondering how much to ship to Montreal Quebec Canada? looking at purchasing 2 packs possibly.
Thanks
You'll have to call EVwest for shipping quotes
Which material is used to build the outer structureof battery pack??
I'm guessing being in a rented building with instructions to not penetrate the roof membrane is the reason you have the lie flat mounts. Any worries about the wind catching these and popping them off the roof?
Can you make another video detailing the cooling system used for the batteries?
Thanks
Habib Farooq Coolant flows around the batteries in its dedicated ducts. Cools off at a radiator in front of the car. Motor and controller and cooled the same way as well
@@huzaifarashid1 I wonder if they use the same lines for battery and motor into the radiator. Wouldn't the motor get hotter than the battery?
+jehugarcia how difficult would it be to carry out your own conversion? I see that your at EV West who do phenomenal work, but I see myself going the more diy route if possible. Thoughts?
+Liam M I did it in my garage with no special skills or tools
How much is the useful life of fhese installed mudular for solar energy
I’m planning on putting two of these batteries in my RV. I’m not too tech savvy but I’ve been following you and some other channels for a while now on my private profile.
I will have about 3200w if solar on the roof and figured two of these batteries in parallel at 24v should be plenty but might add more later.
I’m still figuring out if I should run two 24v Multiplus 3000w inverters or one Quattro (will be using all Victron equipment), with the split phase system in an RV.
The thing I’m struggling most with is the BMS. It looks like the Orion BMS might be a good option but I’m open to suggestions.
The compartment I’m building the system in is protected from the cold and heat and doesn’t drop below 56* in winter or above 80* in summer, and that is before I duct AC to it or install fans.
Have something similar in mind, and am struggeling with the proper BMS. Lokking at the Victron MultiPlus too. What did you use, what do you suggest today?
nice batteries! thanks for this good info.
Which car is that between the two vws at 6:39 and is it electric?
beautiful battery, you should just build the car "around" the Tesla battery.
Just normal pannasonic 18650 batteries with cooling
RunFor OurLives it will blow if it will pirce a battery
@@loooooopy Nope , there not 18650 !
@@stevelamperta865 what cell are they then, I've bought some they are ncr18650b
What is the distance between two cells in the module and also the distance between two rows of cells?
Excuse my ignorance but shouldn’t the first step be to fully discharge the battery? Then it will be safer to work with.
Will 3 of these packs fit into a motorcycle?
So, what do you do for the modules in terms of cooling for those other applications. Do you need cooling for most other applications?
+Christopher Brookes our loads of 80kW or 160kW are so low that those modules never heat up, Now if we were talking about 500+kW cooling would be needed
Hi, please make a video for Tesla model battery pack for ebike.
how much are the model s battery packs
Hi Jehu, nice video! I wonder if is possible to use that 160hp siemens motor in a modern Citroën C5. I gess the problem is all the electronics...
+Luís Fernandes What Siemens ?
That Siemens azure you have on stock.
+Luís Fernandes a rinehart would power it www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=258
Thank You!
How much volt is used for Tesla battery
So if those are the Model S packs... Which model tesla did the packs you use in your samba come out of?
+Aaron Wadzinski smart car
Is that that protect battery cells realy from titanium like Musy says..does not look like titanium 2 me...can you test how really tough it is
+dzonikg not sure it this case is before or after titanium shield
How many battery modules there in Tesla Model S car?
I used to follow your vids a few years ago. Congrats on this purchase. How heavy is that?
+zodiacfml 1200 lbs total 900 lbs of battery
No, im asking why do they have hammer turned on the drills if they are undoing screws
I'm curious about how Tesla protects the battery cells from impact on the bottom of the pack. High strength steel? I think that's one of the major hazards, hitting something solid on the road and damaging the pack from the bottom severely enough to trigger thermal runaway.
when is someone going to build a car/kit frame around this battery so that you can custom build a car/kit. That would be really cool.
Why take a grinder to security torx screws? Or was that some kind of inside joke?
I didn't see you guys undoing coolant connections with any of the modules. those are just with no fasteners?
yes
And absolutely no leaking? That's an awesome result. I imagine vibrations wear down the seal as it constantly rubs. A photo of that connection would be awesome
is the 914 in the back electric?
This is a joy to watch
can you do more videos with that battery
А где покупали аккумуляторною батарею )?
those are NOT the correct kind of rubber gloves for high voltage EV work. You need to be using class 00 rubber inner glove with a leather outer glove. Gloves should be checked for holes and punctures EVERY time they are worn. The voltages are deadly and care needs to be taken.
True, however keep in mind that the main contactors are no longer powered, splitting the pack voltage in half once already down to around 200VDC. Additionally its important to maintain dexterity with your hands so you don't drop your tools/bolts, and thick rubber gloves make that very difficult.
ERIC & CINDY Crowder And what is the point of the rubber shoes when you are sitting on a chair that has probably a lower resistance than shoes, and also not using the right tools... It's correct what they are saying it's dangerous, but this just looks really amateur.
ERIC & CINDY Crowder great insight
Talking like a lineman. 👍🏻
@@KingFrederik1309 You know electricity from this battery only goes to battery ground and not earth/neutral? the most dangerous part is working with your hands making a possible connection through both arms past the heart. 200VDC could make that connection.
Do you need to worry about keeping them cool when you put them in other vehicles? If so, how do you do it?
+cerr00 you could run liquid through them, but no, Tesla puts 400kW load on them that's why they need to cool them we do 140kW peak so they'll never get hot
Since the pack was pretty packed with modules, was that a 100kWh battery pack?
+TheSecondFunnyKing 85kWh, somehow tesla managed to stuff 25kWh,
Ah I see. With the newer chemistry processing they use since Feb 2016, this battery would be the 90kWh edition. So probably 2 more new 5,6kWh modules in the 100D ...
TheSecondFunnyKing Same amount of modules but more density.
Any chance of putting one of those cells in your IMAX discharger to get the capacity? What's the max discharge rate for these Tesla cells? I've heard 20A for short periods.
+Matthew Ray I did but it had to ship out before it could finish, I think ludicrous + is 1500A divided by however how many paralleled cells on a P100D module
a module it says in the specs it can handle 750amps for 10 sec or 500amps cont.
These are all high capacity cells so 8 to 10 amp continuous at most if they are fairly new.
if each cell is 40 or so amps - likely - then paralleling many of them those amps ADD so 20 in parallel = 800 amps
artbyrobot - The cells in the battery packs are older model high capacity and not new high drain that can do 40A bursts. These older cells might be Panny B's which can only do 5A.
Those cool bolts made me want to play Ratchet & Clank
how much would it cost to get the battery?
I'm curious about something (because I'm not en electrician or engineer of any kind), if you wanted to use these batteries to make your own power wall for your home, could you not simply take that entire battery pack (without dismantling it) and simply stand it up against a wall so the edge of the whole battery pack rests on the floor? Obviously you would need to jury rig some kind of interface between the inverter etc from your set up, but can you stack these things anyway you want or join whole still-assembled battery packs together (like 2 or 3 of them)?
You’d have to find an inverter that works with high voltage DC. They do exist but your standard residential inverter is 12V-96V. Inverters that can take an input of 400V DC are more industrial
How much did that battery cost?
Hi. Did you have the opportunity to test a single cell? Very interested in the capacity.
testing a whole module
Is it possible to construct a similar battery with similar output using 18650 batteries as a diy project??
Yes because they are the batteries that are used and the packs are cooled by coolant going through dedicated ducts, being cooled by radiator. 1 packs is 444 batterys in parrellel circuit with 24 vokts so to get the same output you would need the same 16 pack as usind in the battery taken apart with a total amount of 7104 batterys (18650) and output voltage would be 384volts. All cordless tools use this system just with different batterys
I have 2 questions about the tesla battery modules:
1: Is balance charging required? and If so, how?
2: If one were to use it as a diy solar powerwall what kind of charge controller would you need?
+Zai Fuchigami 1: th-cam.com/video/tbaeMWdDlqY/w-d-xo.html 2: j35.us/MPPT60A150V-chargeController
Hi, you mentioned putting these 24V “cores” (I’ll call them cores from now on) in parallel to make a higher capacity battery pack. I was wondering if you put any thought into how to deal with an imbalance between cores. Once you put the two cores in parallel any imbalance will rapidly discharge into the other lower voltage core. This could lead to a lithium event because the cells are not meant for high rate charging. I work on batteries myself so I was wondering how to deal with this issue. The obvious answer is to discharge/charge the cores to the same voltage and then connect in parallel. Any other ideas? Add resistance between cores so imbalance discharge would be low current? Looking forward to hear your thoughts on this.
BMS with a really good balancer or connect the series groups in parallel not just the main pos and neg
I'm interesting in buying some. How much Pls?
Hi, the total of single cell is 504 cells in configuration of 7S72P maybe?
Great video.
Hey Jehu, I have been a fan ever since I saw this crazy guy building vibrating 35mm lenses adapters for the HV20 back in the day! I saw the FJ80 Land cruiser in the back. Are there any plans to electrify it? It may not be feasible but I own one and it's always been a dream of mine.
not currently
Hey I have a twin motor 520hp total sea-doo boat. My question is, can it be converted to electric and how much would it cost?
+Matt Helfer 500hp motors are still $30k
Well it's 500 combined so what about a 250hp motor?
How do you buy this!?
can you tell me where you can get this ?and what is the cost ? thanks
+istvan bencze click on the link
Do you know where we can buy the batteries from the recycler?
No i don't know any particular recyclers, every once in a while a whole pack pops up on eBay j35.us/Module-ModelS-eSearch
Ok, cool. Thanks for reply.
its roughly £16,000 per battery here in the uk ? for the tesla s batteries
for a 90kwh pack
So... As many of us want to know...
how much would we need to pay a recycler for a complete Tesla S battery like yours ??
+lasersbee going rate is $10k
Thanks....;)
Is there a large supply of Teslas ? Thought there wouldn't be
Hmm… That isn't bad at all. I wish I had 10k haha
I was looking at a Tesla cars counter today, and I refreshed the page to see how much new cars would be added 10 minutes later... surprise ! the counter shows me a lower number... one less Tesla !
I suppose they have a database with all write offs ?
Can you use the whole system as a bank for a Solar Home, Seems like half the battle is done
yes, this could power 2 homes. Its about six POWERWALL II worth of energy
It's a shame you have to break the system apart to make lower voltage banks. Such nice packaging.
Maybe Tesla could make an inverter/charge controller for complete units some day once there are more used units around.
jehugarcia,
One house requires about 40 Kilowatts? Why then Tesla sells 7 and 10 Kilowatts power walls, is one supposed to buy 4-7 of them to power one's home?
Maxim C. 40 kw daily not hourly.
Dr.mice,
I know, I know. Although that's besides my point/question... I asked why if to power one house we need about 40 kw and Tesla sells 7 and 10 kw powerwalls?
Has anyone tested a Cell to see what it is putting out in Milli amp hours?
Has anybody figured out how to use the Tesla BMS?
im interested in buying tesla battery how do i contact you
what is the purpose of that blue liquid that has been pumped out of the battery?
Anton Lymanets Coolant. Keeps the batteries cool because Tesla puts around 400kw peak load on these calls. Gotta keep em cool
what music is this at 8:11, that's not the ones on the description.
Karamel Kel - Heavenly Dream
Jehu, where do you get the music for these videos?
th-cam.com/channels/FYvSl5meygIKQZRXlClU9g.html
Gracias mi amigo!
you removed the liquid coolant.. but how does it stay cool otherwise?
It just does
interesting... okay so I am a complete noob, my goal is to buy several of these (mabye 4 or 5) and use it as a "remote" way to charge a PHEV.. (I can charge at home, but when I get to work there aren't any plugs to charge with). What is the best way to get 120v AC to do level 1 charging to a PHEV? Thanks!
That 914 makes me tingle.
6:17 "This is how we do it!"
What BMS would you use for a single 24v pack?
Any 6S
Would be interesting to use one or two of those modules in a A123 Systems Hymotion Kit Battery Replacement.
+Timothy Suhr 24v x 1000A would be my guess
jehugarcia it actually tandem to the small PRIUS battery. So I would think simular voltage.