Plaid Model S Battery Teardown and Big Announcement!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2022
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Sandy and Cory discuss the construction and engineering choices of the Plaid Model S battery in comparison to the Model Y battery.
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Cool to hear you guys helped Tesla a bit with the S pack...teamwork makes the dream work! Christmas coming early with the 4680 Model Y teardown...will be counting down the days 🤣 - thank you Munro team!
What's up Dillon. Love your channel!
ohh hey Dillion, I watch your channel also!
Same! Love the Tesla community working together and commenting on each others videos.
Thats why we feel connected!
😎🤙
I hope everyone appreciates how much detailed engineering information you are providing for free. I certainly do. Simply the best. Thank you.
Thank you very much!
I'd echo that. Plus I appreciate the promotion of your engineering reports. Being a retired engineer myself I know first hand the amount of time, effort and money is required to generate these. Vehicle manufacturers and suppliers that want to survive long-term need to produce higher quality and lower cost EV products. Undoubtedly your reports will be valuable in their meeting that objective.
For real! Engineering students must love it even more, certainly makes their school work more fun.
I love Sandy's videos. He never shies away to say whether something is a good idea or not, and he explains why, and what the impact is, or how it could be done differently. He doesn't just present a bullet list of findings, you can actually feel the amount of experience he brings in to a topic. Quite enlightening!
Thanks!
Yes, I like the other presenters, but they need to give more evaluations. Since we’re not in the field it’s hard to know what to do with a bare description. Is it good, is it bad, is it innovative, is it standard, is there a better way of doing it?
@@juliahello6673 I find the other presenters are usually pretty good at elaborating on what other methods have been used and whether they see what their looking at as a positive or negative.. you don't get them from the others? I won't say it's 100%.. but my memory says they have been doing pretty darn good at it imo
Yes, like the others as well. But would like then to give their opinions as well, not just the hard data.
Thanks Sandy. As engineer in the battery industry it’s great to see this level of detail.
Thanks
I love when sandy is pissed about the seats, he seems to know his shit. He has been in the industry so long but has a mind open for change (and definitely future talent all around)
Never doubt Sandy.
It’s called being battery limited, so use every one you can. Please see that Jordan at the limiting factor, gets one of the 4680 battery. He is a wonderful TH-camr, who does deep engineering on all the battery materials.
He already got a 4680 cell from Gali from Hyperchange
@@officialyasir thanks
@@officialyasir pre production sample, still useful to get a production one
@@christianvanderstap6257 good point!
th-cam.com/video/S7fzvO5Ngbo/w-d-xo.html The beginning tear down.
NEVER doubt Uncle Sandy.
You guys are helping change the world!!! Sharing just the edges of this technology is fascinating!!! 👏 👏 👏
Outstanding episode. I took delivery of 2022 MSLR in March and am I right to assume that it has the same battery configuration to the MS Plaid? I have been blown away with how efficient my new car is compared with my previous 2015 MS85D. I originally signed up for Plaid but reconfigured to LR after seeing reviews and accepting that a 0-60 of 3.1 seconds was more than enough for me and did not need the third motor to give me the faster acceleration. I love my new car!
Nice explanation of how the different battery constructions are done for specific purposes, and reminder of how to be flexible in your design- when to carry the same things over, and when to make them different. I really look forward to both the Model Y teardown from here in Austin, and your trip to IDRA. As always, thanks guys for making the engineering accessible to even non-engineers like myself!
I did alot of roadtripping in my Plaid X this spring. When supercharging in 80-90 degree weather Inwould notice the other Teslas' cooling fans screaming amd mine was pretty silent. I guess it is a mix of the larger radiator and different cooling.
You guys are killing it lately. Soo many videos, lots of new (to YT at least) excellent staff and so much expertise and experience. Also love to see the diversity in vehicle models!!
Thanks once again for the fascinating breakdowns and explanations!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love when Mr Munro calls 📞 it like he sees 👀 it.
Thumbs up for showing the guys who did the work!
Literally the most interesting stuff on TH-cam, you lot are legends!! Can't wait for a 4680 teardown!
Lol……..
@@carholic-sz3qv Lol what ?
Captivating video! I was excited to see this arrive. Then, toward the end of the video, you revealed the next videos. After all that, you mentioned future surprises! Thank you! (Great job on the filming & editing too!)
Fabulous, Detailed, Engineering design comments and comparison of the Model S and Plaid battery designs. - Sorry I didn't know what a GMD board stood for, although you commented about the Thermistors measuring battery heat.
Glad/impressed that you and Cory are both going to IDRA.
Especially look forward to your receipt/teardown of a Model Y with 4680 cells made in Gigafactory Austin!
Phantastic video, thanks so much! Ordered my Model S one year ago, no idea when it will be delivered to Germany. Until now I thought, that with the 1865 cells it has the „old, outdated“ technology. Thanks to this video I have understood, that it makes sense to have the smaller cells in a high-performance car.
Thank you for this amazing explanation of the Model S plaid battery. This helps me to better understand the tech in my car. Really appreciated this. And loved the video!
Go Sandy, never a dull moment! Surely a multitude of folks appreciate this technology so glad to get a peak in my later years of life!
Looking forward to the Y teardown and finding all the differences from the original. Also will be great to have a baseline with 4680's first iteration. I don't think people understand how impressive a feat it is to move into a new industry from scratch. Battery technology is really complicated.
Yes, I want to know if the 27 changes per week thing is still going on increased or decreased.
but, that was LEAKED by Tesla @ GigaBerlin and GigaAustin 4680 Structural pack Cutaway and battery Display.
@@markplott4820 And still the average Elmer Fudster doesn't believe it so why not prove it with absolute certainty?
This in my top 5 TH-cam channels.
I've been waiting for this particular video for months!! Woo finally! 😁
You're always on the wave, Sandy & Team!💪👍
Looking forward to see the teardown of the 4860 pack: I'm sure there'll be plenty of novelties to speak about.
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Great video! Battery teardown and analysis are one of my favorite subjects. The complexity of the thermal control system is incredible. So many connections and layers, and they get it right every time.
Criminy - Munro & Associates is totally delivering! This Plaid battery analysis was fascinating!
But truth be told, I'm even more looking forward to the MIT MY tear-down! And then you mentioned the IDRA visit...the future's so bright I gotta wear shades.
Really looking forward to a teardown of a 4680 pack!
Munro Associates is probably the best EV production design and analysis shop anywhere in the world.
🤩 I love what you guys do, Sandy and team thanks so much 💯✨
Thanks guys!
Very nice . IDRA would be an interesting event. Hope you enjoy. Thank you all At Munro !
🤯 super-content... cant wait - I'd buy another 10 stickers for this and I'm totally buying a 4680 too !
I refuse to pay $800 for a 4680. I demand that the price be adjusted to $800.85!
@@justanoscar well played, perfectly in the spirit of Tesla lol
Thanks!
Thanks guys, another great show.🙂
Awesome, can’t wait for info on the Texas built 4680 Y! Ouch, $800.. tough for a souvenir but a bargain for a business looking for insights on the battery tech.
$800 each? Wow the are looking to make over half a million on the batteries!!!! Sheeeesh!!!!!!!!
Perfect job! Thank you very much for this sharing. 👍🏻
Never Doubt Sandy.
Can’t wait for the next tear down!
Cant wait, what you got coming is exactly what I want to see and hear
Exciting stuff coming to Munro live. I'll be watching.
Jam packed video with lots of cool stuff and surprises. Thanks and congratulations on the content and lots of success!
certainly the most exciting video since the plaid..
Looking forward to more of this content! Thank you so much Munro Team!
More to come!
The company I used to work for sold robotic battery testers to Tesla. I worked a bit on the model 3 testers in Giga Reno. We ran 1A of current from the cell through the bond wires to the collector plates and measured the voltage drop. You should see witness marks from the tester's probes on the cells and collector plate. They had a pretty sweet semi-automatic rework station to illuminate (with a visible-light laser) indicted bondwires for manual inspection and rework. I know we had testers in San Jose also, but I never got there to check them out, though I think the idea is similar. I don't know if that company still supplies testers to Tesla (it's a demanding customer!), but I'd be curious if you can see the witness marks on the S and X collector plates and cells still.
Oooo a person who’s in the business. I’m just adding a comment to get notified if MunroLive responds to this or any further insight comes in this thread.
Thanks for speaking up!
Exciting times. Have a great trip.
Impressive! Thanks for the review!
Excellent video folks. I guessed right on Twitter when Sandy asked the followers where he might be heading - to Italy, and Idra. Should be some very interesting stuff coming up.
Big things coming! I’m excited for the new content!
Love the deep detail...batteries are in our future...this knowledge in not available elsewhere. Thanks.
Excellent video, I think most folk will have been sat at the edge of their seat watching this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Super interesting
Oh man!! You made us wait right until the end to drop that lol. Nice 👍🏼
Wow, congrats!! Great joob!
Great Video and news!!! Looking forward to it! Thank you 🙏🏼😁
Our pleasure!
So excited to see your video of the Model Y. I'm picking up mine in Dallas tomorrow!!!
Like usual excellent information 👍👍👍
finally the video we all wanted to see
Compulsory watching. Really interesting and impartial views on motor vehicle design.
Exciting times ahead!
Very informative and Well Done - Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Great Video as always!! Look forward to more.
Exciting times ahead! Have a good trip&teardown!
Thanks! Will do!
Exciting video and looking forward to seeing the future revelations.
Thanks for your insight into this aspect of the Plaid. So looking forward to seeing the insides of the new Y, and the Cybertruck someday.
Awesome knowledge.
Great video. Excited to see a Texas Y teardown and a deep dive into the 4680. Looks like you have some great content coming up. Keep up the great work.
Ride and drive on the way back from Texas.
Seatbelt retractor should be removed from B-pillars. Not having to cut a hole in the B-pillars will make them stronger improving side impact strength and roof crush strength. It will also give the crash bars in the doors something stronger to push against in a front or rear collision. Seatbelt retractor should be under it in the seat like I have seen in some Chevy pickups.
F.L.O.R.I.D.A
I’ve been waiting for this one!!
Excellent work as always Sandy, Cory and team! 👏 👏 👏
Man, I'm trembling with anticipation of the MY teardown and analysis. This will give us Cybertrucks reservation holders a glimpse into what's possible.
The Idra Group presses video will also be spectacular I'm sure! Keep up the good work fellas 👏
One of the best episodes yet!
Thanks
This channel has so much in it. Love it!
Glad you enjoy it!
Amazing guys…kudos 👍🏻
Thank you 😀
reminds me of the Jarlsberg cheese, in the grocery store! new design's everywhere ..nice.. oh! blue foam! yup! foams R super cool ! ya'll have advisors in Dupont, & Sabic! Texas Instruments
has just re-engineered their older chips...OMG guy's, if ya'll get any sharper! yes, designs R changing almost daily!! knock it out of the ballpark, Team Munro! 🍀
HYPED for the Y.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Believe it or not, but these kind of videos gives me as an engineer lots of ideas and innovation for designing an optimized battery pack for the project that I work for. We watch every one of them like it's an engineering tutorial.
So big thanks to Sandy and his fellas for sharing high end tech used in EV's with us.
Have you bought any of their reports? Even the cheaper ones must have structure that could be priceless as guides
Wisdom!
Gosh Sandy really does the hard sell at the end of this video. Good work Sandy and your team.
Thumbs up!!!! Great video.
Very exciting!
great show, love it
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent
Love Munro live.
Outstanding video/information
Glad you think so!
This content gets me so exited about the EV transition. A great time to be alive! Thanks Munro Live ;-)
Great video guys!
Thanks so much!
Feels like Christmas!
Great news. Cannot wait
I am so pumped to see the 4080 and giga casting coverage
Can't wait for the 4680 pack review. So awesome!
So much to look forward too! I know you will find a fantastic Steak in italy!
Once more, this has been proven: Munro Team = Engineering Dream Team. Thanks boys for your presentation and words of wisdom! Whoever in this business does not buy your reports is a fool.
Superb content, thank you Munro Live! Love the callout to Mike, Julian and Antonio, terrific job! And shout out to the videography and editing team, the hidden stars that produce, edit and publish top quality content.
Our pleasure!
Interesting times indeed, notifications "ON".
I’m salivating over the upcoming 4680 battery cell tear down. It’s going to be Epic!
Awesome promo! I hope everyone buys, because then they won’t have an excuse for failure.
Hello and thanks again for yet another good teardown analyze! I’m working for a big oem with battery testing in lab. I just would like to ephesize that I would be very interested in knowing what type of 18650 cells they are using. I agree, that the new configuration with more cells in parallel and extended monitoring via the bms is important factors, but according to what I have seen so far for (let’s say at least 3-5 years back) older generations of model S like P85D or P100D, the cells was clearly on the limit for what current you could extract without getting crazy voltage drop (claimed 700hp+ was perhaps in the reality more around or below 600hp). Yes, I know, the plaid still oberheats, but clearly it would be very interesting to see what they have done with theese cells, because before I can guarantee that if the older cell would be used, you could NOT run 402m under 10 seconds. So to conclude: how in the world did did they succeed to more or less double the power and still maintain the energy density?! I cannot understand why more people are not interested in that question.
A interesting comparision would be to just compare the voltage drop with previous 18650 cells (or model 3 2170 cells) let’s say just discharge with 5c from 4V to 3,5V and then compare voltage drop and temperature. Yes, I know, it’s maybe asking for a bit too much, but I would certainly be interested.... Now, time for me to shut up :)
Welcome to Italy!
“You shouldn’t doubt Sandy” 😎
MUNRO Live - Breaking News, the Limiting Factor got ahold of a Authentic 4680 from Tesla KATO Rd.
and is doing a TEARDOWN of the Cell by UC San Diego.
Impressive so far , a VERY hard cell to Crack.
Supprised to see Copper flower Petal Design for END cap of Tabless Electrode.