I'd love to see you guys really build a Lada engine using all the go faster experiments that worked over the years, twin carbs etc and do a before and after comparison.
I don't think they know what there doing in this one lol You still need to use the normal oil pump to give the system pressure you just have it suck it out of a reserve tank. Use the power steering pump as a Scavenging Pump to suck all the oil out.
Their channel doesnt get a lot of love from gear heads in Russia. Theyre known for ruining A LOT of nice ladas. The green wagon was a shame, the purple pickup too...the orange one...many were nice examples, no rust etc. They all end up the same. I like the experiments, but ruining classic cars is a major downer for me
They should do it in a fwd car and power rhe the rear wheel with a forklift motor , connected to the a differential mounted in the back with super capacitors powering the motor, which is fed by the alternator
I want the full electric Lada. If you feed enough power *into* a large generator it will work as a powerful electic motor. Probably sub 10 second quarter miles in a Lada, possibly even 8s. It's not good for a street car due to the charge needed per full speed run, but it's been done successfully in a few drag cars.
I would like to see them rebuild an engine with a different bore on each cylinder. Or maybe a different stroke with each rod. The sound would be interesting 🤔
I know of one person who did that in racing in the 70s. Balance is the problem. It might work a while and knock itself apart. Maybe 2 different stroke or bored but not 4.
Did you vent your oil tank? If not, the electric pump is pumping against pressure, which will slow the rpm of the pump and result in lower flow to the tank.
How much power can you get out of a hot rod lada? Build a performance lada and test power output on a dyno. Push it to the extreme, high compression super charged nitro burning lada. That's what I wanna see.
I would love to see the 6l lada engine, with the custome injector you made in the past and this dry sump system. all your best idea into a g54 monster . That would be awesome !!!
This project would have been very, VERY, interesting to see what was happening in the oil pan with clear oil pan replacements. We would have been able to see from the start with a clear slender pan that it was foaming too much. :o
Usually you have a double oil pump with two inputs and two outputs. One circuit pumps the oil into the reservoir and the other circuit pumps it from the reservoir into the oil circuit. Filter and oil cooler can be integrated into one of the two circuits. That is why you check the oil level, e.g. in the MTU engine, when the engine is running and at operating temperature.
I love you guys. Even tho times are turbulent, and I have never even seen one of these Lada cars, I still love you guys ALOT. Your enginuity and work ethic is admirable guys. I would love to spend a day in your garage, I feel like I would learn a bunch of tips and tricks.
i appreciate the little info that ou have given me as i am attempting to drysump a vw vr6 into a bmw e30 ....i was planning to use the power steering pump but wasnt sure until i saw our vdo
@@UHOH3300 not in Jamaica...we have more JZ engines in bmws tha bmw engines in bmw...part are hard tuh get n when u do get dem u have 2 sell d car tuh buy s parts ...☹
Now next stage would be oil sprayers at foot of each cylinder like Ford Cosworth engines have. They squirt oil up the rod and into the gudgeon pin area aiding cooling and prevents the gudgeon pin becoming a place of inhibiting power whilst cooling the piston more and less friction generated in the bore.
Well, if you want a crazy project- here is one. engine charge electric motor for propulsion, this to provide same rev all time so the rest can work with constistence. Water superheated by exhaust (system like on a boat but heating instead of cooling) and then to a turbo and gearbox and down to engine for better fueleconomy.
The scavenge pump needs to have at least twice the capacity of the feed pump. It also needs a restricted feed from the pressure pump to ensure that it doesn't run dry at low engine speeds.
I don't think they know what there doing in this one lol You still need to use the normal oil pump to give the system pressure you just have it suck it out of a reserve tank. Use the power steering pump as a Scavenging Pump to suck all the oil out.
Oh gosh, it even has the hubcaps and old style tires on it, I know it must have something terminal but it's quite sad to see it go down the experiments aisle for a reason a true beater could be used...
My suggestion for a video Customised cooling Remove standard themo & find solution to manual adjustment with all the cooling aspects, bonuses on fan on off & even fan speed adjust & flow adjust, run the engine on the lower 'nomal' line i.e running the whole engine at its 'coolest' recommended then see if this allows for the ability to run thinner grades of oil & better efficiency?
You guys should try wiring a supercharger to an AC compressor clutch, and wire 2 separate ECUs in the same circuit. One would be stock and the other one would be remapped for the supercharger. Instant 40+hp gain at the flip of a switch! Have a switch turn off the stock ECU, and another one to turn on the remap ECU and supercharger. That would be cool to see.
Maybe if you mounted the power steering pump low, like down below the sump or level with it at least with 2 or 3 tubes from the sump draining into one then into the pump.
I think its about time they try turbo charging a lada, or doing a performance car with all the home made mods they have done over the years, lada home made 6cyl, lada twin carbies, wooden pistons, carbon fibre conrods, o ring rings, p/steer dry sump, magneto coils, 3 diff wheelie rear end for 1000mph, 8 rear shockers, home made wheels with spinners, perspex oil filter and rocker cover, high pressure washer p/steer pump, diesel injector pump conversion, etc etc. Lada Frankenstein haha come on do it!
I believe you could have used the original engines geared oil pump for the oil pressure and if possible figure out away to feed its inlet. You could have then done away with oil fan belt driven power steering pump which is not ideal for feeding oil pressure. Belt fails and you’re toast
@@jeffrykopis5468 no , if you don’t have enough volume to surpass the leaking of the bearings it will never develop full pressure. Real hydraulic test equipment is rated at a certain flow , only on dead heading will you see this much druck
Have you ever thought of getting together with other Russian and Eastern European youtubers and putting together a series of competing events like circuits and off road stuff? Run what you brung sort of thing, honour of the garage/channel at stake maybe a prize at end :)
This Lada looks like a 1958 model, but it's probably a late 90s model...lol Like it was said in the movie Lord of War, nobody lines up to buy Russia's cars...🤣🤣🤣 Even the earliest Ladas seem to still be using a throttle body fuel injection system rather than multi-port fuel injection or direct injection. I'm sure I'm wrong about the newest models, but I've never been to Russia, let alone work on anything of Russian production. Edit: I'm sorry, I'm not trying to make fun of the Russian people at all, Garage 54 is one of my favorite channels, but it doesn't seem like their automotive technology has come very far since the early 80s.
Yeah, cool science experiment. But those electric pumps will fail and then you’re kinda sol. That’s why they use mechanical pumps for DrySumps. The little ones will definitely give up as they start to starve under heavy stress. Loading and unloading the motor will make it worse in a race setting. I don’t want to hear but F1 does a electric (it’s a primer pump and their budget for that said pump is probably 100k! Lmao)
You need a different oil pressure gauge. This one is rated way too high. Get one that reads from 0 to 10 bars. Yours goes all the way to 35 bars and doesn't give you a fine enough reading.
I'd love to see you guys really build a Lada engine using all the go faster experiments that worked over the years, twin carbs etc and do a before and after comparison.
I second this
Repeating the compression ratio increase experiment would be a great start
And dyno it
Man, the welding skills the younger guys are getting from this channel are something I wish I could have done! Good work to that young welding team!
The loser trying to tell you to send a message is a scammmmerrrrr!!!
Mystery of the day is whether Cyril is still around. He's the one who welded the crankshafts.
@@android584 Man, if Cyril is gone… I absolutely loved him
@@alexdev5809 he did have "future garage owner" written all over him though.
This is first time I've felt bit bad about the Lada being destroyed, interior looks nice for what it is.
I don't think they know what there doing in this one lol
You still need to use the normal oil pump to give the system pressure you just have it suck it out of a reserve tank.
Use the power steering pump as a Scavenging Pump to suck all the oil out.
Their channel doesnt get a lot of love from gear heads in Russia. Theyre known for ruining A LOT of nice ladas. The green wagon was a shame, the purple pickup too...the orange one...many were nice examples, no rust etc. They all end up the same. I like the experiments, but ruining classic cars is a major downer for me
It's a rust bucket do you have eyes
@@MushookieMan every Lada is a rustbucket. They do crazy shit to restore them.
@@RipRoaringGarage they haven't destroyed a single nice Lada... those don't exist.
I want to see a Hybrid Lada. Have the engine drive a generator to charge a battery bank, use an electric traction motor.
Yes thats would be sick AF!!
Me to:)
They should do it in a fwd car and power rhe the rear wheel with a forklift motor , connected to the a differential mounted in the back with super capacitors powering the motor, which is fed by the alternator
Or they can replace the starter motor with a more powerful electronic motor and a battery system
I want the full electric Lada. If you feed enough power *into* a large generator it will work as a powerful electic motor. Probably sub 10 second quarter miles in a Lada, possibly even 8s. It's not good for a street car due to the charge needed per full speed run, but it's been done successfully in a few drag cars.
i would use ladas own oilpump and use the powersteeeing pump to feed oil into oil reservoir that feeds into the oilpump that is located in the engine
thats how oem dry sumps usually work, or they have two stock style pumps, one is pressure the other scavenging
I’d turn that Lada into daily driver, register it and keep that as a fleet car. That’s how well it works. Keep up the great work!
I would like to see them rebuild an engine with a different bore on each cylinder. Or maybe a different stroke with each rod. The sound would be interesting 🤔
I know of one person who did that in racing in the 70s.
Balance is the problem.
It might work a while and knock itself apart. Maybe 2 different stroke or bored but not 4.
It wud'nt be balanced n vibrate itself tuh death
I'd love to get my hands on a little Lada here in the US, just because!
theres a few on the east coast and in the south with sub 20k miles on them selling for like $23,000... they are super inexpensive.
Did you vent your oil tank? If not, the electric pump is pumping against pressure, which will slow the rpm of the pump and result in lower flow to the tank.
There's a clear vent line taped to the passenger side "A" pillar.
@@scottinWV You are quite correct my good man. I failed to see that until you brought it to my attention. Thank you.
How much power can you get out of a hot rod lada? Build a performance lada and test power output on a dyno. Push it to the extreme, high compression super charged nitro burning lada. That's what I wanna see.
I'm with you, but I'd love a rallye racing lada instead! But yes, combine weird mods to get the most of it.
They did this on Top Gear years ago. Type "Lotus Lada" into TH-cam.
Hungarian enthusiasts are your adress. Havassy Motorsport is the first that comes to my mind, but there are a lot more.
They definitely didn't do enough with the turbo-lada-zilla series. I would love to see either an N/A or forced induction build. My thoughts exactly.
Hope people upvote your comment, I've been feeling like that for a whiiile
I would love to see the 6l lada engine, with the custome injector you made in the past and this dry sump system.
all your best idea into a g54 monster .
That would be awesome !!!
This project would have been very, VERY, interesting to see what was happening in the oil pan with clear oil pan replacements. We would have been able to see from the start with a clear slender pan that it was foaming too much. :o
Nice, you guys went through and showed all the troubles it took to get this working.
these are my boys over here. they show you whats possible and what is not. theres no stupid question if youve only asked once.
Usually you have a double oil pump with two inputs and two outputs. One circuit pumps the oil into the reservoir and the other circuit pumps it from the reservoir into the oil circuit. Filter and oil cooler can be integrated into one of the two circuits. That is why you check the oil level, e.g. in the MTU engine, when the engine is running and at operating temperature.
I love you guys. Even tho times are turbulent, and I have never even seen one of these Lada cars, I still love you guys ALOT. Your enginuity and work ethic is admirable guys. I would love to spend a day in your garage, I feel like I would learn a bunch of tips and tricks.
One Matt to another, I must agree with you.
i appreciate the little info that ou have given me as i am attempting to drysump a vw vr6 into a bmw e30 ....i was planning to use the power steering pump but wasnt sure until i saw our vdo
This is blasphemy, the BMW M20 is a vastly superior engine
@@UHOH3300 not in Jamaica...we have more JZ engines in bmws tha bmw engines in bmw...part are hard tuh get n when u do get dem u have 2 sell d car tuh buy s parts ...☹
Now next stage would be oil sprayers at foot of each cylinder like Ford Cosworth engines have. They squirt oil up the rod and into the gudgeon pin area aiding cooling and prevents the gudgeon pin becoming a place of inhibiting power whilst cooling the piston more and less friction generated in the bore.
Good stuff!
“...some people don’t even check their gauges.”
😆
I guess people are the same everywhere.
Well, if you want a crazy project- here is one.
engine charge electric motor for propulsion, this to provide same rev all time so the rest can work with constistence.
Water superheated by exhaust (system like on a boat but heating instead of cooling) and then to a turbo and gearbox and down to engine for better fueleconomy.
This would make a great addition to the transparent systems playlist
My like relates to the foam solution & it raises interesting questions for me regarding the standard oil circuit path.
Great video.
Me too. I spend all weekend sometimes just trying to improve or resolve issues like that. Im glad im.not the only one. Cheers my friend.
You should see air bubbles in the return flow, showing the return pump is scavenging all the oil and a little bit of air.
The oil pump pumps fuel into the oil galleries that also have an oil pressure switch in line so bypassing the oil pump affects ur switch
windage tray (baffles)/ crank scraper is what you needed.
The scavenge pump needs to have at least twice the capacity of the feed pump. It also needs a restricted feed from the pressure pump to ensure that it doesn't run dry at low engine speeds.
I don't think they know what there doing in this one lol
You still need to use the normal oil pump to give the system pressure you just have it suck it out of a reserve tank.
Use the power steering pump as a Scavenging Pump to suck all the oil out.
If you want to use PS pump as a scavenging pump, it needs to be way down, same level or lower as oil pan floor. It's bad in sucking oil up.
You have great automobile knowledge man😍
Oh gosh, it even has the hubcaps and old style tires on it, I know it must have something terminal but it's quite sad to see it go down the experiments aisle for a reason a true beater could be used...
My suggestion for a video
Customised cooling
Remove standard themo & find solution to manual adjustment with all the cooling aspects, bonuses on fan on off & even fan speed adjust & flow adjust,
run the engine on the lower 'nomal' line i.e running the whole engine at its 'coolest' recommended then see if this allows for the ability to run thinner grades of oil & better efficiency?
Make some connecting rods out of carbon steel rebar, I loved watching you guys make pistons and conrods out of weird shit.
They already did that
@@streetlegalbuilds7644 they did carbon fiber, not rebar.
Man that’s the nicest Lada I’ve seen from them!👌😂👉sad to see it destroyed!
You guys should try wiring a supercharger to an AC compressor clutch, and wire 2 separate ECUs in the same circuit. One would be stock and the other one would be remapped for the supercharger. Instant 40+hp gain at the flip of a switch! Have a switch turn off the stock ECU, and another one to turn on the remap ECU and supercharger. That would be cool to see.
Nice idea
Love your inventions😍
Maybe if you mounted the power steering pump low, like down below the sump or level with it at least with 2 or 3 tubes from the sump draining into one then into the pump.
I would like you to build / modify a engine that can rev as high as possible without exploding
So if it’s typical euro, ops is 12x1.5 . A banjo with some porting would be adequate, but I would tap it to 14x1.5 and use a thinner seal ring.
Y'all stay safe.
its much easier if you keep the stock oilpump and just relocate the pickup to the external reservior
To watch this on my TV I use the TH-cam app, good god there are so many ad breaks .
Loves the look of the old ladas !
I think its about time they try turbo charging a lada, or doing a performance car with all the home made mods they have done over the years, lada home made 6cyl, lada twin carbies, wooden pistons, carbon fibre conrods, o ring rings, p/steer dry sump, magneto coils, 3 diff wheelie rear end for 1000mph, 8 rear shockers, home made wheels with spinners, perspex oil filter and rocker cover, high pressure washer p/steer pump, diesel injector pump conversion, etc etc. Lada Frankenstein haha come on do it!
That must be the show Lada cuz that Peantbutter inside look brand new
Yea i dont believe this
107% success vlad you the man..
Is this channel more popular in America then it is in Russia? 🤔
I believe you could have used the original engines geared oil pump for the oil pressure and if possible figure out away to feed its inlet. You could have then done away with oil fan belt driven power steering pump which is not ideal for feeding oil pressure. Belt fails and you’re toast
I want a lada so bad!
Especially one of those early round light Rivas with the small lights, I love those!
I always wished they would use hardbass for the build montage background music.
1:25 But Vlad, a standard oil pump produces up to about 80psi, max. A power steering pump can produce something like 900.
Volume
@@dennisford2000 Ya want me to ask louder? 😂
@@jeffrykopis5468 no , if you don’t have enough volume to surpass the leaking of the bearings it will never develop full pressure. Real hydraulic test equipment is rated at a certain flow , only on dead heading will you see this much druck
@@dennisford2000 "druck"??
@@jeffrykopis5468 German guys entienen
So sorry about Biden and his corrutionist handlers. My apology as an American to Russia.
You eliminated the pressure relief valve contained in the original oil pump?
Have you ever thought of getting together with other Russian and Eastern European youtubers and putting together a series of competing events like circuits and off road stuff? Run what you brung sort of thing, honour of the garage/channel at stake maybe a prize at end :)
Now that you mention it crossovers have fallen by the wayside.
You need a gear pump to pump any sort of oil
Oil filter won’t pop off….. there is a bypass valve in the filter
Amazing Test!!
I like to get one of those cars. To put a small block Chevy in
Awesome
thinking this is gonna be closer to the vandgaurd system but great either way
DIY VTEC ftw
You need a wind age tray
Great Video
This Lada looks like a 1958 model, but it's probably a late 90s model...lol Like it was said in the movie Lord of War, nobody lines up to buy Russia's cars...🤣🤣🤣 Even the earliest Ladas seem to still be using a throttle body fuel injection system rather than multi-port fuel injection or direct injection. I'm sure I'm wrong about the newest models, but I've never been to Russia, let alone work on anything of Russian production.
Edit: I'm sorry, I'm not trying to make fun of the Russian people at all, Garage 54 is one of my favorite channels, but it doesn't seem like their automotive technology has come very far since the early 80s.
1970*. Considering the fact that Fiat 124 didn't start production until 1966.
That’s quite a tidy little Lada for its age.
Is it the Lada?
Gasoline expert😍
Yeah baby! Very COoL.
Test how much pressure it takes to explode an oil filter.
Cool idea
A 500 psi gauge on a 40psi system….
Yeah, cool science experiment. But those electric pumps will fail and then you’re kinda sol. That’s why they use mechanical pumps for DrySumps. The little ones will definitely give up as they start to starve under heavy stress. Loading and unloading the motor will make it worse in a race setting. I don’t want to hear but F1 does a electric (it’s a primer pump and their budget for that said pump is probably 100k! Lmao)
Yes
Great, now do the opposite: run the engine with steady 5bar pressure. From idle to top speed.
And you put a heater in the tank and have a warm engine faster.
How
you ever made an air powered car like a air boat.that would be cool
Could you try to convert a Lada to use diesel?
Another loving video😍
Make a Lada Hybrid!
I never thought of an oil filter exploding because of too much pressure. Now i would like to see an engine that blows up oil filters on purpose
As I have seen it, no you don’t….
@@dennisford2000 if its done on purpose i definitely do want to see it
1:00 Do you guys have those shirts in large or just the extra medium as shown?
Vlad rocks!
I'd like to see a Lada run on water instead if fuel.
When the pressure was at 0 were they running it with no oil?
And now to turbo the motor
Adjust the gauge to not sit on the peg
Now copy a lotus cortina's suspension and you'll have a race car
one day lada will make a c8 corvette looking car and shut us up
Gloves to pour oil, but not while welding? lmao.
Hey man, you know there's no OSHA in Russia. It's all scar tissue by now, it's nature's leather 😅
You need a different oil pressure gauge. This one is rated way too high. Get one that reads from 0 to 10 bars. Yours goes all the way to 35 bars and doesn't give you a fine enough reading.
If u have an electronic motor feeding the pump then it shouldn't matter where the take and pump seta
Can your team make a jetboard Lada?
How about splicing 2 Lada engines together for a flat plane v8?
Squad!!
Paint a car 🚗 with ballpoint pen ink
Yes, but the pump could fail damaging the engine. Not practical. Does work though
Make the most reliable Lada ever made
It works well. Mercedes used dry sump lubrication in several of their cars.
Windage tray time
Modified sump. I built up an Alfa Julietta with DRY sump. There was no sump.
I'd like to see a video without the use of a welder be interesting to see if you could do it lol
👍 Nice
Big fan from sri lanka😍
No oil pressure and an electric oil pump? Rev the engine!