ONVO L60 Vs Model Y... ONVO wins hands own, beautiful car, awesome tech and he exterior colors are so eye-catching! TESLA is cool, just with Battery Swap Stations I would always choose NIO.
Competition or government mandated support to create a heavily subsidized sector, that is racking up huge losses to enable the China first mentality? Just like with the solar panels. Make 'm cheap, make 'm with slave labour, drive the price down so hard no honest company can compete.
hope onvo comes to most european countries in 2025, i will trow my model 3 out as fast as i did my audi s3 when model 3 arrived. and i hope to be one of the first 100 customers again to take ownership of this car nio switzerland has NO stupid tax like EU has, expand here, we also got better roads and money ofc, but we look very much about price, you can NOT rip us off like byd tried and failed. we have money for a good reason. not waste and calculate
Switzerland is rich because they were always 'neutral' during critical times, while benefitting from the wars fought out around them. Aiding nazi's, selling weapons of war, while claiming to be neutral and anti war is beyond hypocritical. The arrogance your comments exude are exactly what you would expect from a Swiss a-hole, that wants to profit from the EU by joining it -partly-, while also refusing to actually join, coöperate on an equal level or participate, only what the Swiss benefits from is what they are about. If you stand by evil and do nothing, you are part of the problem, that's how the Swiss got rich, so it's a lot worse than standing by, you're a nation of genocide enablers, your arrogance is shit, leave the EU please, we don't need douches like you.
Is it really a mainstream brand from Nio?! I mean 900V architecture, thinner cells, an LFP pack with reasonably fast charging times is something one would associate with more premium BEVs. This makes up for what the Tesla falls short on- a more plush cabin: I noticed the front passenger seat with a footrest, lounge mode to relax while your car charges, reclining rear seats, and most importantly a better ride. While Model Y's software and performance will reign supreme, but as an everyday car, it's a better rounded BEV which is where the Onvo begins to make a lot of sense. Let alone the Model Y, why would you spend more for an equivalent Nio?! The exterior design is pleasing to the eye, given it's a new brand from Nio. How are the panel gaps on the outside? It seemed to be a very well finished car from the video. Nio's battery swapping is faster than filling up a tank at 2.5 minutes. What is your take on battery swapping vs. charging in the ownership experience? Have customers been able to find the right packs and with enough juice at swapping stations? How about a video on your swapping experience overall? Lastly, are the cells prismatic? As always, continue the great work. A very happy subscriber!
We only have rumours that the 60kWh are BYD cells, so they would be blade batteries, since thats all that BYD's battery division make. In terms of swapping, I never really had a problem. I have heard from other owners of queues and waiting, or batteries unavailable at rush hour/very busy places in Shanghai. But the newer generation swap station hold more batteries. We'll have to see how it affect things when the stations are holding another two types/size of batteries.
I’m a *huge* NIO fan! I’m counting down the days until they hit the U.S. market. I need a car that’s fast, efficient, and keeps me moving-I don’t have time to be stuck charging forever like with Tesla! NIO’s about to change the game!
@@keithmcintyre4771 reputation and proven reliability of course, 3,500,000+model Y have been sold already globally genius! Nio isn't even at 1/10th of teslas production. 😀
@@4literv6 Tesla is renowned for poor build quaility and poor QC, though. I have lost count how many recalls they have suffered from. Is that the only reason that Tesla has in it's favour? That it is an older business and has therefore has sold more cars?
When something happens to a battery in a Tesla - you are forced to scrap the car. With a NIO you swap battery in two minutes. Which one of the two makes sense?
@@ChinaDriven I know. All I mean is if you buy a Nio right now, you are paying more and getting less than an Onvo. I'm curious what changes they will make when they go to NT3 and how they will distinguish themselves as 'Premium'. As Onvo as of right now is 90% the build quality and 90% the performance of Nio. Nio has to make a big step to be worth the upgrade i.m.o. Also, something you didn't mention in the video: The main reason (I think) Onvo took such a big leap in energy-efficiency is they changed their heat pump system to something similar Tesla uses like the "super manifold" and "octo-valve". Most electric cars have standardized heat-pump systems that are inefficient. I'm no expert but apparently the heat from the batteries, motor can be used to heat the interior and vice-versa, also works for cooling. All systems are connected in such a way that there's almost no energy-loss. There are videos of engineers / mechanics explaining how it exactly works.
Cant believe nio are adding 2 new batteries to the swap stations, there will be a lot of different batteries, wonder how they'll fit the 150kwh in the onvo. Looks like a nice ev. Should sell like hot cakes.
You forgetting that the ET9 is supposedly going to add a 120kWh thin pack as well. I don't think the 150kWh is a thin battery IIRC. So it can only fit into NIO NT1 & NT2 cars. So far for me battery swapping has been nothing but a fantastic experience. But as more cars able to swap at the stations come on the market, first ONVO, later other OEMs...I worry if there will be longer queue times. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
@@ChinaDriven hopefully nio will put a lot more stations to compensate for having less of each in each station. I guess they had to differentiate Nio from Onvo.
@@ChinaDriven Don’t forget if the batteries become full solid state a 150kWh battery might fit in an Onvo. Battery technology is constantly improving so who knows what’s possible in 5 years for this car
Does Onvo's come with a towbar? NIO has them.. just like the comment about having a spare tire, this is a must for me.. what about model Y on these points?
You can see in the boot space section, there is a video of a guy pulling the suitcases out of the boot. They are filming him with the seats down. So the rear seats fold down. But i forgot to shoot that!
The auto deploying tow bar on the NIO SUVs is an optional extra. We don't have any information on that yet. Have to wait for the launch next week. You could always just fix a universal tow bar I guess... There is no spare tire in the ONVO.
Love your channel and love your reviews. As an American viewer who attended the USA's school system, I find it hard to understand distances and speeds when given the metric numbers. It would be super helpful if you could put the conversion on the screen when talking in metric numbers. (Doug Demuro does this). If I pause your video and google KM to Miles etc, after multiple times it takes me away from your content. Other than that, I love your NIO reviews and like your style more than the other Chinese car reviewers. Keep it up!
Thanks for watching! I get it. we use miles and mph in the UK. but most of the world doesn’t haha. The consumption unit are also varying between China, Europe and USA. I’ll try to keep it in mind. what does the USA use for energy consumption? Wh/mi?
Hey Will, seen your article this morning on CnEVPost first about the Onvo L-60. Great job both there and here. I have a suggestion if you don't mind. It seems that your Chinese is pretty good. Perhaps do some videos in Chinese to appeal to the local population? You may get more likes and people watching the channel. Just an idea that may help you grow..
Great video, great car, great story, couldve been improved if the host had his eyes opened more, and created a clear structure for the video with timestamps
unbelievable rear head and legroom!🤯 This is the updated Model Y Tesla could dream of. In fairness, Tesla teased that they will use parts of their next gen platform on existing cars. In other words, a Model Y could be updated to match the technology of this Onvo in 2025. Is this the first Chinese EV to use 800-900V "motor"?
no far from the first Chinese EV with 800V system. I think it’s the first using 900V. but that’s not really much to shout about compared to when others jumped from 400 to 800V, that was a huge deal. wait is Lotus 900V?
@@ChinaDriven I was referring to the motor. Most 800 volt EVs still use 400V motors or it's only the battery pack that is 800volts. If this Onvo motor is 800-900volts and so is the inverter, pretty cutting edge if you ask me.
@@markplott4820Didn’t this car just launched in China, this is a press event in pre-production vehicles, what information do you have that this vehicle is unsafe?
Thanks for the review, I like the efficiency of the ONVO. Amazing that they can make the battery thinner, and reduce the size of the motors. Also, such a low drag coefficient for an SUV coupe. No, I wouldn’t buy a Model Y if ONVO were available. Sadly it isn’t available (so far!) in Malaysia. The more I watch your reviews, the more I learn about car technology!😊
I like the look of this car, it’s like the Polestar 4 in how they push the roof area back to give you headroom in a coupe style SUV. Looks more like a sedan but, has a hatch. It would be nice if they make it with adaptive suspension, so you can have some fun with it. The power output is nice but, no I do on torque yet, with 0-100 of 4.7 seconds, it’s powerful enough to have fun with. I would like it with a bit more range though, would need a bigger battery as well, would make a good fit with some 20” wheels/tires. Love the video.
BMW 3 is still the benchmark in its segment. Tesla as a benchmark is largely due to its sales, rather then it’s technical prowess in China. My biggest problem with this is that many people buy a Tesla not because the product is the best but based solely on badge prestige. The model Y really doesn’t excel in any area in China. There are more efficient EVs, better features, Tesla has no FSD in China, I believe o my basic autopilot. Its stiffer ride while making it fun to drive is not great on broken Chinese city roads.
Why is everyone caught up on this. LOL It's a standardised test. So take EV A's CLTC and compared it to EV B's CLTC. CLTC is a standard made for chinese driving. More weight for urban roads and city ring roads, less weight for highway cruising. As this is more inline with daily driving habits in China. Chinese EVs do not all have WLTP or EPA ratings. But yes, if you drive a mix of fast and and slow roads you will see something between 70-80% of the total CLTC generally. But you'd also see 70-80% of Tesla's CLTC range as well. www.linkedin.com/pulse/epawltpcltc-craig-chen--9ypcc
I don't get why they can;t figure out. Here are two numbers ON THE SAME STANDARDISED TEST. Therefore you can compare them. That's not saying these numbers are a reflection of real world ranges or consumptions lol
@@ChinaDriven let's wait for L60 real range test and then we'll compare with MY real range test and let's compare real consumption. Until then it's all Nio's word.
When a battery has issues you can get it out. Why would I buy a Tesla where it is more expensive than the value of the car to get a broken battery out? Makes no sense to buy a car without the swap function.
week the Chery Omada E5 is based in a petrol car chassis hence it has the space for it, it’s not a proper EV dedicated platform. most EVs don’t have even a space saver. I can live without the full size, but I’d like to see space savers at least on the options.
Let’s hope battery technologies getting more and more advanced by the day from CATL, BYD and others that battery potency increases in ever smaller packages giving room for a spare tyre. Man I love me a spare tyre in my car hahaha…
Can you explain the high sales numbers of the Model 3/Y when Chinese OEM"s are coming out with better and cheaper options? Im sure most Chinese consumers are very educated buyers that are smart with their money so I'm confused about Tesla's appeal in China.
Obviously Tesla are popular worldwide. They are very good EVs. If you think how thier charging and range for example is still holding up after all these years. But I feel in China there are many who still buy or have bought Tesla's because of badge prestige. It obviously has a reputation as a top foreign EV maker. I'd argue there are better products on the market, but Tesla has the higher badge prestige.
No. No NIO/ONVO products have frunks. They are unlikely to have them in the future. This is because for battery swapping to work underneath in the middle it has to be completely clear so the battery can come out. So the front and rear hold a lot of components.
A close friend of mine works for a large multinational reinsurance company. And about 4years ago I was sat in HK with him, and I bought up that I thought insurance would become an issue for EVs in the future for a number of reasons.
@@ChinaDriven in the west it wouldn’t matter how cheap the cars are, if you can’t get spare parts, the Insurance will end up being more expensive than the car at some point. Tesla insurance is just absurd in the UK.
It's a catch 22 situation. Having a full part supply in Europe needs decent sales numbers. If they move production to Europe even as CKD then more parts should follow. I still feel like many Chinese brands are still testing the waters.
Pity it's full features are only available for Chinese speaking. Maybe it doesn't make sense, but like Nio, the software it's NOT completely multilingual. English it's not fully available in China. The mobile app only works in Chinese and voice commands ONLY works in Chinese even if you are running Banyan in English in the car.
No. doesn't seem like it. But there are viewers whose first language isn't English. Either from Europe or Asia, places where Chinese EVs are being sold.
@@thomas8954 HP is in the video but it’s expressed as kW which is usual for EVs, Acceleration is also in the video as well as DC charge speeds. Nowadays OEMs like to fully release stats on launch which will be on the 19th Sept. This is becoming more common, as they try to drive those interested to watching the live launch event where there will be pricing, and launch buying incentives.
When's that happening? I mean in China Tesla owners are still waiting, seeing a ot of companies pushing city ADAS here, but Tesla still hasn't given a timeframe or confirmation FSD is coming.
Chinese can make cheaper evs If you guys whant someting electric , cheaper and you don't care about charging station , cameras safety fitures summon , fsd when you get tiyerd can berly drive , software update and more take a Chinese car . I hope the battery swapping machine are oraund the world not juste in china .
This has battery swapping...the Charging network in China is far more vast and robust then anywhere else. We can scan and pay on any charger with just our phones using wechat or alipay. It's quick, easy and require about three clicks. ONVO has OSD, similar to my NIO's NOP+, a similar system to FSD. But honestly Huawei & XPeng's systems are far ahead of NIO's right now. As for cameras these cars all have equal or higher level of cameras. Typical all 8MP for ADAS. There are cheap chinese EVs, there are expensive Chinese EVs. There are trucks, wagons, supercars, coupes, sedans, SUVs, full on off-roading EVs. There is something for everyone at every price point. That is why China is way ahead in EV adoption.
Why DID I buy a Tesla? Simply, because it's a superior vehicle! - Safest car in the world. - Best performance. - Best customer retention. - Better value retention. - Much, much, MUCH better software. - Quieter and more comfortable. - More space. - More range (real world range... not the CN marketing shenanigans). - The most advanced self-driving technology in any vehicle. - No LieDAR BS. - Better quality and aftermarket support. ... - Not a Chinese knockoff.
How's the cult life working out for you? Seeing the length of hysterics you just typed it looks like you are in deep. Best wishes, hopefully you can get your life back someday.
Your comment is outdated now. Tesla is hereby being put in 2nd place. Tesla Software isn't better than NIOs and the lack of all sensors is making all Tesla vehicles inferior compared to NIO and Onvo.
@reginald7214 Cult? This is getting quite boring already... Why does stating the facts always considered "a cult" or "fanboyism" when it doesn't align with your views/delusions?
This is a Chinese domestic car. I'm in China... In my NIO the OS has an english version, and this car will have one at some point after launch. Unfortunately the AI voice assistant is mostly in Chinese on Chinese market cars. They do have english on those sold in Europe, but the full range of functionality is still far superior in the Chinese speaking system. So I'm not "obligated" I'm just in China...
Things tend to go in cycles. We had a lot of product innovation a couple of years ago. Then we had the pricing wars. And right now it seems many OEMs are refocusing efforts on battery tech, charging, efficiency. In terms of product innovation its true it has slowed down, this year's current trend seems to be adding features we found on 300,000+ RMB EVs to EVs in the price segment below around 200,000RMB.
Nah Tesla Model Y is mostly outdated now in China. It's BMS is still pretty good. And the brand still has brand prestige. SkyOS which the OS runs on its built up from scratch by NIO. You can go read about it in more depth. But they claim its the first true ground-up in-car software. Built up from the microkernals. But I'm not a software expert
Way to go nio being a shameless copycat to tesla&the world leading model Y here 55 months after it launched globally! And has already accumulated nearly 4,000,000 model Y sold globally. So it has 3-7 more kwhs in pack capacity, and 800+v architecture yet manages to be less than 3% more efficient. And we know from you Chinese fanboys that none of their evs even meet the generous cltc ranges. 🤣 This will be the same as all the other lame stream media tesla killers=doa. Ah what fond memories those are. The juniper update model Y will crush this dead, then the tesla compact cuv coming late 2025 will cut it's head off! 👍🏻
I mention CLTC as it's a standard. And Tesla has a CLTC range has well. It's a test that is designed for Chinese driving scenarios so has more weight to urban roads and city ring roads as opposed to highway cruising. Tesla still leads the market in sales, which is why it is used as a benchmark. No car company benchmarks a weaker competitor, what good would that be? Tesla still holds a lot of brand cache in China. But I would like to see them move a bit quicker, start FSD beta testing in China. It would also be nice to see what Tesla could do with an 800+V architecture, as most would agree their BMS is probably still the best out there.
Man, you are so unhappy being a fanboy. It's gonna be tough with Elon turning out to be such a terrible person. Good for you for doubling down on your cult worship and not bothering to think for yourself any longer. That's commitment.
I mean apart from the central screen (which many EVs have, I mean where else would you put it lol) and the rear screen location, the comparison kind of stops there. I guess you can argue it has its steering wheel in the same place as a Tesla. Damn copycats. But in reality, the materials feel much nicer, the central storage design is not the same, the dash is three tiered, compared to the MY two tiered, there's "metal look" accenting all around. The Ambient lighting is far better then the new model 3 highland (I expect the Juniper to be similar) I mean how different can you make a minimalist interior?
@@ChinaDriven it's a copycat tesla.. even has the glass roof.. look at the inside of a Tesla then look at the inside of Ionic 5 or 6 or Mach e.. very different from each other.. this looks like a Tesla to me especially the interior..
I’m going to assume you are in a market where there are limited EVs on sale. There must be 100 EVs with glass roofs in China. from SUVs to sedans. There is no doubt this is inspired by the minimalist layout in a Tesla. but if you really look at both of them you’ll see there are differences. There are other EVs with wildly different stylings. There are EVs with similar stylings. the MachE sells very poorly in China. Its interior is not appealing to the market. And the Koreans have still not fully entered their EVs. So while I’ll agree there is some inspiration from the Model Y I don’t think it’s a straight copy. I think it proves that at this lower price segment this minimalist interior layout is popular.
@ChinaDriven you say inspired minimal design by Tesla I say it looks like copycat model 3 highland which they beat out tesla juniper release.. it looks the same interior wise. Exterior I am not gonna lie on the side kind of looks like Y. It's a few tweaks but your not fooling me it's a similar model y..
What part of the interiors look the same to you? They both have a single screen mounted in the middle? I think ONVO not having an instrument panel, rather using a HUD can make them seem similar. So in that respect yes, it is like a tesla M3/MY interior. But the difference in my eyes is the tesla interior on the highland and MY is very blocky and contrasting between black and white on the two tone. Straight lines. The Onvo follows NIO's styling more rounded soft edges with a more blended flow of the two tone. The example you gave of "different interiors" namely the ioniq 5/6 and mach E both have exteriors that look like they belong in ICE cars. As for the exterior styling, aero drag is going to play a big part in what you can do bodywise if you are trying to eek as much low drag as possible. It's going to have a coupish side profile, a small front section. But the interior space inside the ONVO L60 is massive compared to a MY. It's staggeringly different. You can see other low drag mid-sized cross-over EVs, IM LS6, Xpeng G6. While many OEMs have to stick to some sense of brand "styling" like Audi, BMW etc, NIO get to start from scratch, and we can guess that the shape of the Model Y & ONVO L60 is just going to be the best shape for that low drag.
We're also on BiliBili lol. China is leading in EVs right now, and many are already expanding or looking to expand into overseas markets. Hence why we make reviews of what's going on here.
@@ChinaDriven china is not leading. They dont have better electric motors or inverters. The efficiency is not better than mercedes or bmw or teslas. There are real world test. The eqs was engineered several years ago still has one of the best ranges. So putting some displays into cars with chinese films doesent make them better.
They all have CLTC test. It doesn't matter is CLTC isn't as close to representing "real life ranges" as EPA or WTLP. We can use it as a comparison across them. The CLTC does have draw backs as a range test as it's developed for China. So it focuses more on Urban driving, so small urban roads and city ring roads with less weight to motorway cruising. ONVO's new 900V motors seem pretty good, high efficiency, smaller packaging. Would be interesting to see if Tesla could make a big jump going from 400V to 800V motors and batteries. I spoke to some engineers in China from a Chinese EV brand, a while ago, and they all agree Tesla's BMS was very good and that was an area that they are working on in China. China is leading EVs in terms of overall market. You can argue certain components are better or worse. But due to the high EV uptake and focus in China there is a huge speed of development and redevelopment. One key area for chinese EV/OEMs that still alludes many is chassis and suspension maturity. (Also engines, but that doesn't matter for EVs!) Many still need to improve their chassis and suspension tuning.
@@ChinaDriven they are leading in terms of market thats correct. But wltp has also a certain amount of autobahn? So with cltc german cars would have more range? Or ist this wrong? Because at 130kmh on the autobahn the energy cunsuption is higher? Yeah tesla still doesont have 800v maybe it will change in the future.
Yes I said WTLP has more weighting in its test cycle to high speed. But there is no WTLP standards for most Chinese EVs. And doing a rough calculation to convert from CLTC to WTLP is too crude. It's better to look at say Audi E-Tron CTLC vs NIO or Xpeng CTLC. Because as you know, high speed efficiency is not just about motors and BMS, but also drag starts becoming a big factor. And recently Chinese EVs are constantly battling over lower and lower drag. The way I look at it personally is compare two by the same standardised test cycle. Not to say that this CLTC is a true reflection of real world returns. Just like giving US$ pricing. It's not because I think that is a realistic representation of the price abroad. It's just that for many RMB/CN¥ doesn't mean anything. People are likely to be far more familiar with prices in US$ to give them a baseline for comparing two vehicles not in their market.
You always ruin a review when talking about watching movies in a car....that is so dumb and uncultured. Please just stick to the car stuff. I would prefer a smaller main screen and a driver's binnacle.
I mean....other than it having a single large screen It really doesn't look like a tesla model Y inside. Much more design elements going on. There's also a higher level of materials.
ONVO? yeah. I talked about it at the end of the driving section. It will have "OSD" City and highway. It's camera and 4D milliwave rader based, using data collected from NIO for it's NIO NOP+ city and highway.
Amazing car for the money, can't wait to get this to Norway
Great review! I own a NIO el7 and it’s fantastic. Can’t wait for ONVO to get to Europe and get my wife one.
Your wife doesnt like a NIO?
@@fuelbastiyes she does, but for a second car an Onvo is enough
NIO Stock Sentiment ✅👀
Thanks Will 😁
Will👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥 Onvo L60 is gonna break the record of Model Y in China by the end of next year I guess
ONVO L60 Vs Model Y... ONVO wins hands own, beautiful car, awesome tech and he exterior colors are so eye-catching! TESLA is cool, just with Battery Swap Stations I would always choose NIO.
You know nothing about the new model Y you clown.
Will definitely buy Onvo best value and quality!
Excellent Review. Very professional presentation. Looking forward to the real series.
Much appreciated!
Unlike the us, competition made another brilliant car in china.
Pressure creates diamonds
Competition or government mandated support to create a heavily subsidized sector, that is racking up huge losses to enable the China first mentality? Just like with the solar panels. Make 'm cheap, make 'm with slave labour, drive the price down so hard no honest company can compete.
@@majaesty3 that is the best comment that depicts why tesla occupies US market alone
@@Jeroenneman Slave labor? LMAO..
This is a Game changer
It looks like a Lamborghini Urus
hope onvo comes to most european countries in 2025, i will trow my model 3 out as fast as i did my audi s3 when model 3 arrived. and i hope to be one of the first 100 customers again to take ownership of this car
nio switzerland has NO stupid tax like EU has, expand here, we also got better roads and money ofc, but we look very much about price, you can NOT rip us off like byd tried and failed. we have money for a good reason. not waste and calculate
Love Switzeland bro. Such a beautiful country you have! I hope they expand there more and more.
Switzerland is rich because they were always 'neutral' during critical times, while benefitting from the wars fought out around them.
Aiding nazi's, selling weapons of war, while claiming to be neutral and anti war is beyond hypocritical.
The arrogance your comments exude are exactly what you would expect from a Swiss a-hole, that wants to profit from the EU by joining it -partly-, while also refusing to actually join, coöperate on an equal level or participate, only what the Swiss benefits from is what they are about.
If you stand by evil and do nothing, you are part of the problem, that's how the Swiss got rich, so it's a lot worse than standing by, you're a nation of genocide enablers, your arrogance is shit, leave the EU please, we don't need douches like you.
I like your eloquent style of presentation, essence, basic information, without drivel. Keep a good work.
Much appreciated!
Nice review Will, just as always. 👍
Looking forward to all the Nio group greatness we will witness in the year 2025, lots of new stuff coming out.
Is it really a mainstream brand from Nio?! I mean 900V architecture, thinner cells, an LFP pack with reasonably fast charging times is something one would associate with more premium BEVs. This makes up for what the Tesla falls short on- a more plush cabin: I noticed the front passenger seat with a footrest, lounge mode to relax while your car charges, reclining rear seats, and most importantly a better ride. While Model Y's software and performance will reign supreme, but as an everyday car, it's a better rounded BEV which is where the Onvo begins to make a lot of sense. Let alone the Model Y, why would you spend more for an equivalent Nio?!
The exterior design is pleasing to the eye, given it's a new brand from Nio. How are the panel gaps on the outside? It seemed to be a very well finished car from the video.
Nio's battery swapping is faster than filling up a tank at 2.5 minutes. What is your take on battery swapping vs. charging in the ownership experience? Have customers been able to find the right packs and with enough juice at swapping stations? How about a video on your swapping experience overall? Lastly, are the cells prismatic?
As always, continue the great work. A very happy subscriber!
We only have rumours that the 60kWh are BYD cells, so they would be blade batteries, since thats all that BYD's battery division make.
In terms of swapping, I never really had a problem. I have heard from other owners of queues and waiting, or batteries unavailable at rush hour/very busy places in Shanghai. But the newer generation swap station hold more batteries. We'll have to see how it affect things when the stations are holding another two types/size of batteries.
Hopefully the USA have an option for consumers to buy Chinese cars in the future.
Polestar & Volvo are CHYNA oems sold in USA .
KANDI smile is only $9,999.
I’m a *huge* NIO fan! I’m counting down the days until they hit the U.S. market. I need a car that’s fast, efficient, and keeps me moving-I don’t have time to be stuck charging forever like with Tesla! NIO’s about to change the game!
No I will never buy a Tesla. I prefer to buy a NIO ET5 Touring. Which I’ve driven in Beijing.
Good choice
I also drove the ET5. It's great. Needs a facelift now though. Sound proofen windows, HUD, 800/900V system, better headlights for example
Best bang for buck and just having the swap option Is a no brainer.
No wonder Biden put 100% tariff on this if brought into the US. It would put tesla out of business.
This car is nice! Way better then Tesla. Go Nio.
@@andrewmadrid8901 No its not way better than tesla.
@@m.s.p4147 Yes it is. thousand times better.
@@m.s.p4147 Explain why? I can't see why anyone would buy a Tesla Y over this...
@@keithmcintyre4771 reputation and proven reliability of course, 3,500,000+model Y have been sold already globally genius!
Nio isn't even at 1/10th of teslas production. 😀
@@4literv6 Tesla is renowned for poor build quaility and poor QC, though. I have lost count how many recalls they have suffered from. Is that the only reason that Tesla has in it's favour? That it is an older business and has therefore has sold more cars?
LOOKS STUNNING!!!
Love your reviews.. Keep them coming.
Thank you! Will do!
Amazing car! Nio is really a quality high-tech product.
Great car!! Looking good. Can’t wait for get this car to Denmark❤
I like the blue
Coastal Blue aka the best ONVO L60 colour!
❤ like a usual. Thanks for review!
My pleasure!
First time seeing your channel. Great in depth review.
Glad you liked it!
Great video as always 👏🏼
Glad you enjoyed!
When something happens to a battery in a Tesla - you are forced to scrap the car. With a NIO you swap battery in two minutes. Which one of the two makes sense?
Nice review!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Nio really needs to upgrads to this platform. They are less efficient, less spacious and way more expensive.
Yes its coming after ET9 flagship launches on the NT3
@@ChinaDriven I know. All I mean is if you buy a Nio right now, you are paying more and getting less than an Onvo. I'm curious what changes they will make when they go to NT3 and how they will distinguish themselves as 'Premium'. As Onvo as of right now is 90% the build quality and 90% the performance of Nio. Nio has to make a big step to be worth the upgrade i.m.o.
Also, something you didn't mention in the video: The main reason (I think) Onvo took such a big leap in energy-efficiency is they changed their heat pump system to something similar Tesla uses like the "super manifold" and "octo-valve". Most electric cars have standardized heat-pump systems that are inefficient. I'm no expert but apparently the heat from the batteries, motor can be used to heat the interior and vice-versa, also works for cooling. All systems are connected in such a way that there's almost no energy-loss. There are videos of engineers / mechanics explaining how it exactly works.
It's true. But so technical. Try to just do big picture especially on these media shoots
thanks man!
No problem!
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Cant believe nio are adding 2 new batteries to the swap stations, there will be a lot of different batteries, wonder how they'll fit the 150kwh in the onvo. Looks like a nice ev. Should sell like hot cakes.
You forgetting that the ET9 is supposedly going to add a 120kWh thin pack as well. I don't think the 150kWh is a thin battery IIRC. So it can only fit into NIO NT1 & NT2 cars.
So far for me battery swapping has been nothing but a fantastic experience. But as more cars able to swap at the stations come on the market, first ONVO, later other OEMs...I worry if there will be longer queue times. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
@@ChinaDriven hopefully nio will put a lot more stations to compensate for having less of each in each station. I guess they had to differentiate Nio from Onvo.
@@ChinaDriven Don’t forget if the batteries become full solid state a 150kWh battery might fit in an Onvo. Battery technology is constantly improving so who knows what’s possible in 5 years for this car
sure. but not THAT 150kWh battery
Does Onvo's come with a towbar? NIO has them.. just like the comment about having a spare tire, this is a must for me.. what about model Y on these points?
You can see in the boot space section, there is a video of a guy pulling the suitcases out of the boot. They are filming him with the seats down. So the rear seats fold down. But i forgot to shoot that!
The auto deploying tow bar on the NIO SUVs is an optional extra. We don't have any information on that yet. Have to wait for the launch next week. You could always just fix a universal tow bar I guess...
There is no spare tire in the ONVO.
Love your channel and love your reviews. As an American viewer who attended the USA's school system, I find it hard to understand distances and speeds when given the metric numbers. It would be super helpful if you could put the conversion on the screen when talking in metric numbers. (Doug Demuro does this). If I pause your video and google KM to Miles etc, after multiple times it takes me away from your content.
Other than that, I love your NIO reviews and like your style more than the other Chinese car reviewers. Keep it up!
approx divide by 8 then multiply by 5 ie. 400km is 250 miles......
Thanks for watching!
I get it. we use miles and mph in the UK. but most of the world doesn’t haha.
The consumption unit are also varying between China, Europe and USA.
I’ll try to keep it in mind. what does the USA use for energy consumption? Wh/mi?
Divide Kms by 1.6 to get miles roughly.
@@ChinaDriven In my e-torn, I remember it was mi kWh.
@@waynerm002 there is so many. Wh/mi, mi/kWh. lol there’s a couple more
Hey Will, seen your article this morning on CnEVPost first about the Onvo L-60. Great job both there and here. I have a suggestion if you don't mind. It seems that your Chinese is pretty good. Perhaps do some videos in Chinese to appeal to the local population? You may get more likes and people watching the channel. Just an idea that may help you grow..
No...my Chinese is trash. Ethan from Wheelsboy does full Chinese videos. His Chinese is way beyond mine as he studied in Chinese university.
Please come to UK 🙏🏻
Great video, great car, great story, couldve been improved if the host had his eyes opened more, and created a clear structure for the video with timestamps
@@ricotoet8707 timestamps down below, see description.
I lost my sunglasses…and it was super bright.
Thanks man, great review. What about foldable backseats? Haven't seen a review covering that yet :)
Beautiful car
Would you buy one?
@@ChinaDriven yes
Good video! It looks impressive for the price.
I think it's definitely a very strong contender for the money.
unbelievable rear head and legroom!🤯 This is the updated Model Y Tesla could dream of. In fairness, Tesla teased that they will use parts of their next gen platform on existing cars. In other words, a Model Y could be updated to match the technology of this Onvo in 2025. Is this the first Chinese EV to use 800-900V "motor"?
no far from the first Chinese EV with 800V system. I think it’s the first using 900V. but that’s not really much to shout about compared to when others jumped from 400 to 800V, that was a huge deal.
wait is Lotus 900V?
unfortunately ONVO L60 is unsafe , high DEATH rate in accident.
@@ChinaDriven I was referring to the motor. Most 800 volt EVs still use 400V motors or it's only the battery pack that is 800volts. If this Onvo motor is 800-900volts and so is the inverter, pretty cutting edge if you ask me.
@@markplott4820 wtf do you mean, they don’t even deliver the car yet😭 let alone launch it to the market
@@markplott4820Didn’t this car just launched in China, this is a press event in pre-production vehicles, what information do you have that this vehicle is unsafe?
It looks so tempting. NIO did a great job.
rear head leg room is so big
I hear ONVO is a Coffin on 4 wheels.
this is one fine looking car. when can we buy it in the us??
With current situations...its not coming
Thanks for the review, I like the efficiency of the ONVO. Amazing that they can make the battery thinner, and reduce the size of the motors. Also, such a low drag coefficient for an SUV coupe. No, I wouldn’t buy a Model Y if ONVO were available. Sadly it isn’t available (so far!) in Malaysia.
The more I watch your reviews, the more I learn about car technology!😊
Glad you find the videos insightful!
Beautiful!
This interior color with stitching is 🫶
I like the look of this car, it’s like the Polestar 4 in how they push the roof area back to give you headroom in a coupe style SUV. Looks more like a sedan but, has a hatch. It would be nice if they make it with adaptive suspension, so you can have some fun with it. The power output is nice but, no I do on torque yet, with 0-100 of 4.7 seconds, it’s powerful enough to have fun with. I would like it with a bit more range though, would need a bigger battery as well, would make a good fit with some 20” wheels/tires. Love the video.
No torque figures were given by NIO/ONVO. And these are new motors so I can’t source the information from somewhere else.
Onvo will destoy Tesla Y in China. 💪👊👊
I don't trust musk.
Tesla is still the benchmark after all these years. Says something about the brilliance of Tesla's products.
BMW 3 is still the benchmark in its segment. Tesla as a benchmark is largely due to its sales, rather then it’s technical prowess in China.
My biggest problem with this is that many people buy a Tesla not because the product is the best but based solely on badge prestige. The model Y really doesn’t excel in any area in China. There are more efficient EVs, better features, Tesla has no FSD in China, I believe o my basic autopilot. Its stiffer ride while making it fun to drive is not great on broken Chinese city roads.
some will say it's hot blue
i love it too
Onvo comsumption is CLTC..you can add 30% to get the real consumption
Why is everyone caught up on this. LOL
It's a standardised test. So take EV A's CLTC and compared it to EV B's CLTC.
CLTC is a standard made for chinese driving. More weight for urban roads and city ring roads, less weight for highway cruising. As this is more inline with daily driving habits in China. Chinese EVs do not all have WLTP or EPA ratings.
But yes, if you drive a mix of fast and and slow roads you will see something between 70-80% of the total CLTC generally. But you'd also see 70-80% of Tesla's CLTC range as well.
www.linkedin.com/pulse/epawltpcltc-craig-chen--9ypcc
The model y was cltc as well. Fanboys need to take a breather.
I don't get why they can;t figure out. Here are two numbers ON THE SAME STANDARDISED TEST. Therefore you can compare them. That's not saying these numbers are a reflection of real world ranges or consumptions lol
@@ChinaDriven let's wait for L60 real range test and then we'll compare with MY real range test and let's compare real consumption. Until then it's all Nio's word.
@@ChinaDriven yeah, the jealousy is blinding. Or they're just Tesla fanboys and deny everything that exists outside the Tesla sphere.
When a battery has issues you can get it out. Why would I buy a Tesla where it is more expensive than the value of the car to get a broken battery out? Makes no sense to buy a car without the swap function.
Wow
The price for europe is crucial
BE BLESSED LOVE IT ! ARISEG
I like to compare things so let’s do it
nio = benz
li auto = land rover
xpeng = bmw
hima = benz again
byd = toyota
HAHAH. Where is Audi?
NIO is made much better then modern Benz's 😏
@@ChinaDrivenidk zeekr?
@@marcusfleuti2672still can’t beat mercedes sales though
Reckon all EVs sold ought to come with a full spare Tyre like Chery Omada E5:)
week the Chery Omada E5 is based in a petrol car chassis hence it has the space for it, it’s not a proper EV dedicated platform.
most EVs don’t have even a space saver. I can live without the full size, but I’d like to see space savers at least on the options.
Let’s hope battery technologies getting more and more advanced by the day from CATL, BYD and others that battery potency increases in ever smaller packages giving room for a spare tyre. Man I love me a spare tyre in my car hahaha…
Can you explain the high sales numbers of the Model 3/Y when Chinese OEM"s are coming out with better and cheaper options? Im sure most Chinese consumers are very educated buyers that are smart with their money so I'm confused about Tesla's appeal in China.
Obviously Tesla are popular worldwide. They are very good EVs. If you think how thier charging and range for example is still holding up after all these years.
But I feel in China there are many who still buy or have bought Tesla's because of badge prestige. It obviously has a reputation as a top foreign EV maker. I'd argue there are better products on the market, but Tesla has the higher badge prestige.
Does it have a frunk?
No. No NIO/ONVO products have frunks. They are unlikely to have them in the future. This is because for battery swapping to work underneath in the middle it has to be completely clear so the battery can come out. So the front and rear hold a lot of components.
Great review… liked a lot! So basically Y… model Y?😅😅
@@reharh7330 that's exactly what I said. It's a copycat tesla.. people are tripping if they don't see it..
ChinaDriven, Very funny video!
@@IOSARBX are u a bot?
What did you find funny?
I'm also wondering this!
Tesla Model Y looks very unimpressive. Boring and no model refresh since released back like 5 year ago i think.
When is it coming to Europe?
Supposedly yes. But NIO "paused European Expansion" so It's meant to, but when we're not sure
@@ChinaDriven I live in Netherlands, which is an existing European market for NIO. I hope they bring Onvo as well to the existing European markets
It's all about Insurance now
A close friend of mine works for a large multinational reinsurance company. And about 4years ago I was sat in HK with him, and I bought up that I thought insurance would become an issue for EVs in the future for a number of reasons.
@@ChinaDriven in the west it wouldn’t matter how cheap the cars are, if you can’t get spare parts, the Insurance will end up being more expensive than the car at some point. Tesla insurance is just absurd in the UK.
It's a catch 22 situation. Having a full part supply in Europe needs decent sales numbers. If they move production to Europe even as CKD then more parts should follow. I still feel like many Chinese brands are still testing the waters.
Pity it's full features are only available for Chinese speaking. Maybe it doesn't make sense, but like Nio, the software it's NOT completely multilingual. English it's not fully available in China. The mobile app only works in Chinese and voice commands ONLY works in Chinese even if you are running Banyan in English in the car.
Yes it's unfortunate if you can't speak chinese, you'll miss out on quite a few things. But at least NIO has an English OS. Most don't even have that!
Nio unfortunately still has the problem of production capacity f3 will be ready only after mid 2025
Tesla is toast.
Nice car….but are the commenters mostly Chinese bots?
No. doesn't seem like it. But there are viewers whose first language isn't English. Either from Europe or Asia, places where Chinese EVs are being sold.
Looks like a bland Tesla even the inside Tesla bland and no switches very cheap looking .😢😢😢
Tesla, anytime. Software. 100%
😂 Talking like a loyal fan!
Man your hand gesture is like a rapper. No need and music to accompany but missing a sunnies
I couldn't find my sunglasses...think I left them somewhere.
1st
i wonder, NIO doesn’t hand out hides the specs which belongs normally to an EV, like HP, torque, max speed, acceleration , AC and DC speed…….. funny
@@thomas8954 HP is in the video but it’s expressed as kW which is usual for EVs, Acceleration is also in the video as well as DC charge speeds.
Nowadays OEMs like to fully release stats on launch which will be on the 19th Sept. This is becoming more common, as they try to drive those interested to watching the live launch event where there will be pricing, and launch buying incentives.
Tesla Eu FSD 12 entrace willl crush this
When's that happening? I mean in China Tesla owners are still waiting, seeing a ot of companies pushing city ADAS here, but Tesla still hasn't given a timeframe or confirmation FSD is coming.
Chinese can make cheaper evs
If you guys whant someting electric , cheaper and you don't care about charging station , cameras safety fitures summon , fsd when you get tiyerd can berly drive , software update and more take a Chinese car .
I hope the battery swapping machine are oraund the world not juste in china .
This has battery swapping...the Charging network in China is far more vast and robust then anywhere else. We can scan and pay on any charger with just our phones using wechat or alipay. It's quick, easy and require about three clicks.
ONVO has OSD, similar to my NIO's NOP+, a similar system to FSD. But honestly Huawei & XPeng's systems are far ahead of NIO's right now.
As for cameras these cars all have equal or higher level of cameras. Typical all 8MP for ADAS. There are cheap chinese EVs, there are expensive Chinese EVs. There are trucks, wagons, supercars, coupes, sedans, SUVs, full on off-roading EVs. There is something for everyone at every price point. That is why China is way ahead in EV adoption.
Bye bye Tesla
"SkyOS built from the ground up," After stealing the floor plans from Tesla...
You talking about the UI homepage looking similar.
@@ChinaDriven the whole thing
Why DID I buy a Tesla? Simply, because it's a superior vehicle!
- Safest car in the world.
- Best performance.
- Best customer retention.
- Better value retention.
- Much, much, MUCH better software.
- Quieter and more comfortable.
- More space.
- More range (real world range... not the CN marketing shenanigans).
- The most advanced self-driving technology in any vehicle.
- No LieDAR BS.
- Better quality and aftermarket support.
...
- Not a Chinese knockoff.
Many of these were true before. But in China...
How's the cult life working out for you? Seeing the length of hysterics you just typed it looks like you are in deep. Best wishes, hopefully you can get your life back someday.
Your comment is outdated now. Tesla is hereby being put in 2nd place. Tesla Software isn't better than NIOs and the lack of all sensors is making all Tesla vehicles inferior compared to NIO and Onvo.
@@marcusfleuti2672 What you're stating is COMPLETELY wrong...
Looks like you've never seen or driven any of those vehicles.
@reginald7214 Cult? This is getting quite boring already... Why does stating the facts always considered "a cult" or "fanboyism" when it doesn't align with your views/delusions?
Why are you obligated to speak Chinese to the car ? Y every is writing in Chinese in the car ?
This is a Chinese domestic car. I'm in China...
In my NIO the OS has an english version, and this car will have one at some point after launch. Unfortunately the AI voice assistant is mostly in Chinese on Chinese market cars. They do have english on those sold in Europe, but the full range of functionality is still far superior in the Chinese speaking system.
So I'm not "obligated" I'm just in China...
It’s a copycat of a Tesla model y. 🙊🙊🙊
Isn't it always hahaha
Comparing real world numbers for Tesla to the stated numbers for Nio...
That's downright bullshit.
Both NIO and Tesla numbers are from the CLTC. All EV models sold in China need to take the same standardised test.
These chinese car are getting boring. Every car has the same interior. One big screen in the middle thats it. Thats not innovation in my eyes.
Things tend to go in cycles. We had a lot of product innovation a couple of years ago. Then we had the pricing wars. And right now it seems many OEMs are refocusing efforts on battery tech, charging, efficiency.
In terms of product innovation its true it has slowed down, this year's current trend seems to be adding features we found on 300,000+ RMB EVs to EVs in the price segment below around 200,000RMB.
If they can't make tere own car copy the others is the way to go . Did they copy everything technology related of tesla to ?
Nah Tesla Model Y is mostly outdated now in China. It's BMS is still pretty good. And the brand still has brand prestige.
SkyOS which the OS runs on its built up from scratch by NIO. You can go read about it in more depth. But they claim its the first true ground-up in-car software. Built up from the microkernals. But I'm not a software expert
Way to go nio being a shameless copycat to tesla&the world leading model Y here 55 months after it launched globally!
And has already accumulated nearly 4,000,000 model Y sold globally.
So it has 3-7 more kwhs in pack capacity, and 800+v architecture yet manages to be less than 3% more efficient.
And we know from you Chinese fanboys that none of their evs even meet the generous cltc ranges. 🤣
This will be the same as all the other lame stream media tesla killers=doa. Ah what fond memories those are.
The juniper update model Y will crush this dead, then the tesla compact cuv coming late 2025 will cut it's head off! 👍🏻
I mention CLTC as it's a standard. And Tesla has a CLTC range has well. It's a test that is designed for Chinese driving scenarios so has more weight to urban roads and city ring roads as opposed to highway cruising.
Tesla still leads the market in sales, which is why it is used as a benchmark. No car company benchmarks a weaker competitor, what good would that be?
Tesla still holds a lot of brand cache in China. But I would like to see them move a bit quicker, start FSD beta testing in China. It would also be nice to see what Tesla could do with an 800+V architecture, as most would agree their BMS is probably still the best out there.
Man, you are so unhappy being a fanboy. It's gonna be tough with Elon turning out to be such a terrible person. Good for you for doubling down on your cult worship and not bothering to think for yourself any longer. That's commitment.
Inside is tesla.. lol
I mean apart from the central screen (which many EVs have, I mean where else would you put it lol) and the rear screen location, the comparison kind of stops there.
I guess you can argue it has its steering wheel in the same place as a Tesla. Damn copycats.
But in reality, the materials feel much nicer, the central storage design is not the same, the dash is three tiered, compared to the MY two tiered, there's "metal look" accenting all around. The Ambient lighting is far better then the new model 3 highland (I expect the Juniper to be similar)
I mean how different can you make a minimalist interior?
@@ChinaDriven it's a copycat tesla.. even has the glass roof.. look at the inside of a Tesla then look at the inside of Ionic 5 or 6 or Mach e.. very different from each other.. this looks like a Tesla to me especially the interior..
I’m going to assume you are in a market where there are limited EVs on sale. There must be 100 EVs with glass roofs in China. from SUVs to sedans.
There is no doubt this is inspired by the
minimalist layout in a Tesla. but if you really look at both of them you’ll see there are differences. There are other EVs with wildly different stylings. There are EVs with similar stylings.
the MachE sells very poorly in China. Its interior is not appealing to the market. And the Koreans have still not fully entered their EVs.
So while I’ll agree there is some inspiration from the Model Y I don’t think it’s a straight copy. I think it proves that at this lower price segment this minimalist interior layout is popular.
@ChinaDriven you say inspired minimal design by Tesla I say it looks like copycat model 3 highland which they beat out tesla juniper release.. it looks the same interior wise. Exterior I am not gonna lie on the side kind of looks like Y. It's a few tweaks but your not fooling me it's a similar model y..
What part of the interiors look the same to you? They both have a single screen mounted in the middle? I think ONVO not having an instrument panel, rather using a HUD can make them seem similar. So in that respect yes, it is like a tesla M3/MY interior.
But the difference in my eyes is the tesla interior on the highland and MY is very blocky and contrasting between black and white on the two tone. Straight lines.
The Onvo follows NIO's styling more rounded soft edges with a more blended flow of the two tone.
The example you gave of "different interiors" namely the ioniq 5/6 and mach E both have exteriors that look like they belong in ICE cars.
As for the exterior styling, aero drag is going to play a big part in what you can do bodywise if you are trying to eek as much low drag as possible. It's going to have a coupish side profile, a small front section. But the interior space inside the ONVO L60 is massive compared to a MY. It's staggeringly different.
You can see other low drag mid-sized cross-over EVs, IM LS6, Xpeng G6. While many OEMs have to stick to some sense of brand "styling" like Audi, BMW etc, NIO get to start from scratch, and we can guess that the shape of the Model Y & ONVO L60 is just going to be the best shape for that low drag.
Amazin how western boys try to make chinese cars look great😅 and on the other hand youtube is forbidden in china 😅
We're also on BiliBili lol.
China is leading in EVs right now, and many are already expanding or looking to expand into overseas markets. Hence why we make reviews of what's going on here.
@@ChinaDriven china is not leading. They dont have better electric motors or inverters. The efficiency is not better than mercedes or bmw or teslas. There are real world test. The eqs was engineered several years ago still has one of the best ranges. So putting some displays into cars with chinese films doesent make them better.
They all have CLTC test. It doesn't matter is CLTC isn't as close to representing "real life ranges" as EPA or WTLP. We can use it as a comparison across them.
The CLTC does have draw backs as a range test as it's developed for China. So it focuses more on Urban driving, so small urban roads and city ring roads with less weight to motorway cruising.
ONVO's new 900V motors seem pretty good, high efficiency, smaller packaging. Would be interesting to see if Tesla could make a big jump going from 400V to 800V motors and batteries.
I spoke to some engineers in China from a Chinese EV brand, a while ago, and they all agree Tesla's BMS was very good and that was an area that they are working on in China.
China is leading EVs in terms of overall market. You can argue certain components are better or worse. But due to the high EV uptake and focus in China there is a huge speed of development and redevelopment.
One key area for chinese EV/OEMs that still alludes many is chassis and suspension maturity. (Also engines, but that doesn't matter for EVs!) Many still need to improve their chassis and suspension tuning.
@@ChinaDriven they are leading in terms of market thats correct. But wltp has also a certain amount of autobahn? So with cltc german cars would have more range? Or ist this wrong? Because at 130kmh on the autobahn the energy cunsuption is higher?
Yeah tesla still doesont have 800v maybe it will change in the future.
Yes I said WTLP has more weighting in its test cycle to high speed. But there is no WTLP standards for most Chinese EVs. And doing a rough calculation to convert from CLTC to WTLP is too crude. It's better to look at say Audi E-Tron CTLC vs NIO or Xpeng CTLC.
Because as you know, high speed efficiency is not just about motors and BMS, but also drag starts becoming a big factor. And recently Chinese EVs are constantly battling over lower and lower drag.
The way I look at it personally is compare two by the same standardised test cycle. Not to say that this CLTC is a true reflection of real world returns.
Just like giving US$ pricing. It's not because I think that is a realistic representation of the price abroad. It's just that for many RMB/CN¥ doesn't mean anything. People are likely to be far more familiar with prices in US$ to give them a baseline for comparing two vehicles not in their market.
Maybe a little more understandable english...
You always ruin a review when talking about watching movies in a car....that is so dumb and uncultured. Please just stick to the car stuff. I would prefer a smaller main screen and a driver's binnacle.
Some people like to do that. Personally I don't watch movies in the car.
copycat
i'd say there's some inspiration, but there's a lot that is different to the Model Y.
@@path2049 yes, especially the interior looks very similar to Tesla. But external wise, it's in a league of its own.
I mean....other than it having a single large screen It really doesn't look like a tesla model Y inside. Much more design elements going on. There's also a higher level of materials.
@@ChinaDriven btw, any FSD?
ONVO? yeah. I talked about it at the end of the driving section. It will have "OSD" City and highway. It's camera and 4D milliwave rader based, using data collected from NIO for it's NIO NOP+ city and highway.
Is this a big car or are you super short?
Both. I’m super short but this car is also massive inside.
Good question at the end! Looks like an impressive new Option in the EV SUV market. Swap technology on top. There’s no doubt about the answer.
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