2017 Ford Raptor 0-60 MPH & First Drive On Road Review (Part 1 of 2)
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so many people say the ecoboost is shit. I work for a construction company and we own three of them, they out perform the v8s in towing and fuel millage so before you say they're shit, drive one
Agreed. My work truck is a 2015 3.5 Ecoboost F-150. It outperforms every V8 truck we have here (Chevy and other Ram's) while also averaging 3mpg better than the others.
Based on what?
Matt John I wouldn't put my money out on a truck that sounds like a toyota, my 2015 Sierra with the 5.3L gets 26 mpg plus I have an exhaust and it sounds amazing so I'll keep buying what is proven and tested
Mike/Connor Haley Based on anything you can measure. More low end torque, better MPG, towing capacity. Name it, the Ecoboost is better.
Mark TheCarGuy Sound doesn't make a good truck. If it sounds like a toyota, that's fine. You realize Toyota makes the most reliable vehicles on the planet right? Like it or not, smaller turbocharged engines are the future for every type of vehicle.
A Raptor without a V8 is like a T-Rex without teeth!
Darryl Benson or balls
lapamful or a bodybuilder without muscle.
+lapamful- while I acknowledge that the numbers don't lie (as in, this 6 banger makes more power)...it is hard to accept. Nothing sounds like a v-8. My recommendation would be for Ford to use an EB v-8...then we'll all be happy (and have even more power). Perhaps that is what they are planning for the future...small improvements over time with the EB 5.0 for the 2019?
Yeah, because the number of cylinders is obviously the single most important part of a vehicle :rollseyes:
I wish all auto manufactures would ditch the twin turbo v6. sounds terrible turbos are hot and how am i supposed to turbo this if it already has a turbo!? haha I know I wont ever buy one.
most people complaining on here couldn't afford a brand new truck anyways let alone a raptor. Go find something else to cry about
Buck's Shots I cant afford to buy it but I can lease it right now if I wanted.
Can I bitch about it some now?
Haha
😂😂😂
the funniest part is that the 3.5L TTV6 is larger and heavier than the 5.0 and it completely dwarfs the ultra compact / light weight 6.2L from GM.
Well the 6.2L from GM is a single can pushrod motor so of course
bold statement to make with 0 proof..lets see how it plays out cotton
bolt? 0 proof? TFL's own ike gauntlet tests prove my statement... 3.3 MPG vs 4.0
yes we know the 2.7 destroyed the 6.2 on the hill. what i was inquiring about was your comparison of weight and size to the new engine and the 6.2
*clearly you have no idea what you're talking about* you do realize they choose the 6.2L... as the winner... did you even watch the comparison / series on the Ike 2.0 and original?
3 years later...I think it’s safe to say, despite the engineer’s prediction at 7:45, that everyone most definitely did not forget about the V8 the second they drove it. The second they drove it they were reminded how much they missed the extra 2 cylinders.
Wow 5 seconds in a pick up truck with warranty! Im in love
5 seconds of what? 0-60 was over 6 seconds
not the only truck that has a full warantee and a 5 second truck.
Ram 1500 SRT Sport.....been doing it for years.
RayJ-HT Tundra sc is still faster
FloppyBit I didn't think there was a race. I was speaking to the reviewers comments. Still what are those Tundra numbers against the 2 door 1500 SRT Sport?
Good work Roman! It was nice to see all of the skid plates and the view from under the truck! To me, this truck really is an entirely different truck from the first Raptor. The Raptor that TFL has been using the past few years is a cool, old school, off-road muscle truck, while the new one still has impressive numbers and capabilities, but it is a different beast! I thought you calling it more of a sports car is very fitting! I can't wait to see all of your other tests off-road with this truck!
Sucks the V8 is gone, but can't blame them, the EPA is putting a lot of pressure. Even so, this EcoBoost is pretty badass.
Johnny Martinez Lighter, more power and better fuel economy. Critics to Ford "You F'd up!"
Daywalker_27 most people, myself included, just the like sound and feel of a V8.
I had a Raptor, but traded it in for a Tacoma TRD with a 3" lift. It was a good truck, but it was so damn big. It didn't fit down most of the trails here in Colorado, and it needed a bit more ground clearance.
Computerized sound.... what is the earth coming too?
JDK its sad.. BMW M cars do this also.
Not a fan
JDK Well that's where Nissan and Dodge comes in. In no hell they would put a V6 in their Rebel TRX and Titan Warrior. Although for Nissan they might just slap a GTR engine in it if the do make one (and that would suck.)
the titan warrior has the 5.0 Cummins that is in the Titan XD.
and the salespeople talk about how good it sounds all the time. theyve obviously just admitted it sound sliek shit by pumping v8 noises though the speakers
Hands down the best truck you can buy!!! No competition whatsoever!!! Ford owns the pickup segment for a reason, and the Raptor is a demonstration of their expertise!!!
Every time that rep talked I wanted to bang my head against the wall.
Dear Santa, are you watching this?
All the people complaining about it not having a V8 were probably the same people that complained when EFI came out. It makes power, you can turn up the boost, it gets better fuel economy, and it's in compliance with current emissions standards. Be happy that comapines can still make these trucks with the strict standards that are placed upon them. Get over it. The future is here.
Being able to hold compression in the turbo is awesome!
It's NEVER going to sound as good as a big V8, but other than that, this is a home run.
Better in every way. It's looks are actually kind of tame. I wanted more aggressive style.
0-60 in 6.2 is no better than the competition. Maybe the tires hurt it here?
I own a 2014 Raptor and love it but if it could loose 500 pounds and become more powerful... Seems like everyone is forgetting the truck is more than what comes from the tail pipe. I am the first to say they sound like a toy and not like mine with the Corsa exhaust but the sound of fast and the sound of powerful is changing. Look at all the people that are buying current 3.5 liter engines as the upgrade, they are here to stay. I am curious as to how Roman your getting 14 mpg in yours as I sit here parked I am looking at 11.2 average over 42,264 miles. Living in Dallas mine doesn't see much off-roading. Here is a better question for you Roman after spending time in the new one and after owning the previous model which would you choose?
Their book "Truck Nuts" arrived today and love it!
The best Truck news channel!
I drove a tacoma for 10 years before I bought my GTI and love driving a small sporty car compared to a truck. So not really a truck guy at all anymore but damn this raptor is appealing.
this ford guy sounds like a politician... that's not a good thing...
Everything about the V6 is perfectly fine except for the sound. They've engineered out the turbo lag and usual issues that come up with turbo engines, but there is just no way to make a V6 sound right in a truck.
Finally, I have been waiting for a long time.
Wow some people commenting have no idea.
The ONLY negative thing about the V6 EcoBoost engine over the 5.4/6.2 V8 is the lack of that awesome V8 rumble. That's it.
Otherwise this engine makes more power and does it sooner in the lower RPM's as well.
Also when climbing mountains you lose power with the NA V8 engine as you gain attitude and lose air density but you won't with a turbocharged engine.
I've got a small SUV with an ecoboost and love it. I've also got a Mustang GT that I turbocharged. I love the V8 rumble but I'd be willing to compromise with this truck.
Shawn Barnish some people don't want to give up the V8 sound, they could've given a V8 just as much power as this ecoboost.
Shawn Barnish sound gives the truck character and sometimes character is worth the sacrifice of gas. It's a fucking 6,500 pound truck. It's not supposed to do anything "ECO" related leave that to a hybrid. It's a truck. It needs a durable reliable nice big v8 straight up.
I love it. I love everything about it.
I was going to agree with you, but I'm not looking forward to the payments and having to wait even longer.
But it will be well worth it.
T4nkc0mm4nd3r lol, well yeah... payments would be awful. I want one, but it's too much for me at the moment.
I want it. So ridiculous yet so awesome. Almost enough to swap my STI and Tacoma for.
You know you are a mechanic when the first thing u notice is how hard it is to access that oil filter from the bottom.
750 Kilometers in on my 2017 Raptor and no complaints seen too many V8's from every flavour eat my dust.........yeah they sound great but no guts where it matters. This truely is a sports car in a pickup truck with off road ability to give raptor killer dreamers nightmares.............lovin it!!
Apparently if you add unique in front of your parts, it makes it different from your regular 3.5L Eco boost engine.
toyota called...they want their tacoma exhaust note back
I've got a 2011 Tacoma with their TRD exhaust and it sounds exactly like this raptor hahaha
Really hope you get a long term vehicle!!!!! You guys rock!
you drove the hell out of that truck LOL. can't wait to see you get it back to your headquarters and maybe do a little old vs new.
The major reason that it gets better gas mileage isn't because it has a turbo V-6. It's because it has 10 gears vs the 6 in the old one and it weight 500lbs less. If it had a V-8 the difference would be minimal
It may make more power than he last generation but i will never get over how it sounds like a honda civic no thank you i will stick to my v8s
QuadManAustyn99 truu
Mercedes NAG1 produced from around 2000 was self learning and fully electronic. My thoughts are its you Roman, the V8 would have probably given the similar savings in economy considering the weight savings.
From outside the new Raptor sounds numb, I think this will be modified in future by enthusiasts.
Ford will probably offer a light weight V8 in future.
Did you check how long it takes to stop from 60? If not please do what you take it to Colorado.
Great review btw!
That snobby chief engineer is regretting the V6 already
Jassima Nasima You. mean the guy that gave us the SVT shelbys, the new Focus RS, original Raptor and new GT. He obviously doesnt know what hes doing
augmented engine sound?! i can't think of anything more insulting! that's a deal breaker for me.
*What do you do for Money?*
Escape for Mankind is Keith Johnson emergency physician
Steven Peterson
*You sound very unsophisticated for a Doctor.*
Escape for Mankind is Keith Johnson haha, whatever that means
lmfao
bought my fx4 has a standard box the nice 5.0 and I average 17-18 mpg. the raptor needs all three of those for me to find it relevant to purchase. Short box is really for those that don't use a truck.
Just traded my 2012 raptor for a 2016 platinum eco boost, loved the raptor,only had a few problems with the truck, power steering blew at approx 40 Km, cruise quit couple years ago. very solid resale on SVT, NOTE to future raptor buyers, FOX SHOX, Must be rebuilt at approx 30 -50 Km, my first set up front blew at 38 Km ,no warranty ,instead of rebuild by FOX,
I ordered the New 3.0 like on the 2017 raptor , from FOX , truck has 62Km now ,guess what they're leaking now,I'm not hard on this truck ( older guy ), don't like the stop - start feature,on 17s, I'm gonna miss her ! Just ready for a change,
sandman 62 The big 3's reputation for past to present reliability has never been something to brag about
I want one!
Awesome review Roman! I'm really hoping to pick one of these up next year. I could give a crap less about it not having a V8. I love turbos.
I won't lie...this is one fucking nice truck. If only I didn't have to give up my arms and legs to own one. I would only be a torso but I would be happy.
Possibly, Ford may want to invite Andre next time.
Wow!!! That v6 sound kills the whole meaning of a big badass raptor not digging it 😕
Ricky Perez agreed!
i bet that the sales will be so bad because of this that they will bring back the 6.2L V8
Ricky Perez it is rumored that ford is working on a new v8 for the raptor
Twin turbo too
Ricky Perez yep the look is good the price is good but the sound.....
We have a 6.2 raptor and we fucking love it
It's the absolute best truck on earth
Like he said I'll gladly sacrifice that tiny bit of extra gas mileage for that natural V8 sound
I'm not exactly a religious guy but our 6.2 is how you talk to god
And I can garuntee you that we won't be trading in the Raptor any time soon
Even for a new one
I just love Ford's so as a high school student I own one and it's awesome
Can you guys talk about the different steering wheel modes and how they feel when you are driving! Thanks guys!
So you've never had a turbo vehicle push you back in the seat!? That truck will have way more power potential in the aftermarket then the last generation. You can only go so far with naturally aspirated vehicles. You're seriously one step away from growing a goatee and buying a Dodge Ram.
Finally, I've been waiting for this review. Now if we could get you guys to do some Ike reviews again.
+welderteach we're just waiting for the 2017 trucks to get going up Ike again.
*EcoBeast
wow 5.8 sec 0-60! thats one cool truck
I get so tired of these old guys and their fixation on 0-60 and handling. I am not adverse to the two but this is a truck and he is constantly complaining that it is not a sports car. It just sounds not smart! You really need younger reviewers that are more well rounded and understand different types of buyers.
Love your enthusiasm! Thanks for the review.
I think most people would much prefer a v8. Ford just doesn't want to spend the money on developing one. I think the awesome thing would have been to put a smaller v8 with a turbo in it.
Wish they would re-engineer the old 300 and turbo charge it, kinda like what our Australian ford did with our 4.0 Barra engine.
The engine sounds like a mid size crossover. In other words, this sounds like pos.
The ecoboost is better than the V8.
Function>form
Take your precious little ear holes and buy a chevy.
Btw love this channel.
raptors probally the firs pick up that i'm actually interested in owning.
I love the vehicle but no a fan of the V6. The raptor's roar with the V8 was just great!
Raptors are one of my dream trucks, do you guys have a video on the Boss 302?
I'm a Ford guy all the way but if all their half ton trucks end up with Ecoboost engines, I would consider one of the competitions, unfortunately. They're still alive with the 5.0 tho. Hopefully Ford won't stop producing it. 😕
That intercooler looks like its perfect for collecting mud.
Looks cool, but I just don't think I can get over that v6. It sounds like a tuner civic. I can assure you, whomever is buying a Raptor will be much more concerned over the engine sound every time they drive it over a 1.5 mpg difference. It would be cool to see GM and Dodge come out with a competitor for sure.
If they're going to "make" the engine noise, make it sound like the Jetson's car.
The perfect sound on a V6 IS noise cancellation.
I love my 6.2 raptor. I guess to keep up in performance I'll just keep adding engine upgrades. The 3.5 sounds like my weedeater. The 3.5 can't be reliable over say a 10 year period. I've had trouble with the supercharger in my truck. And I baby my truck. it's garage kept. I take it out off reading once a month. As far as nicest truck it's the raptor. Reliability not even close. we need the v8. All I'm saying. Mpg? who's going to give up a v8 for 2.5 real mpg? I'm certainly won't. Buy a prius. Everything but the engine is FANTASTIC on this truck.
Im all for fuel economy but ford should have offered the option to have the v8 and im not talking about the wimpy mustang gt. I want the shelby gt350 and upcoming gt500 engines. No excuses for only one engine choice for a truck. If Ford fix that problem im as good as sold and will buy this truck in a heartbeat
Raptor is the first truck I actually wanted to marry!
Hennessey hit 60 in 5.3. such an awesome machine
Looks awesome, but I still can't get over it that it has v6 and that exhaust sound is awful.
Okay, sure the sound may not be what you're looking for, but with all of the EPA regulations, many cars are going utilizing this technology soon enough. Moreover, if the engine sound overshadows the fact that it's faster, more powerful, and gets better MPG than the previous models, I wonder if you care about what really matters.
The ecoboost is nice but if it was me I would've put a tweaked version of the 5.2l V8 from the GT350 in it or tweaked the 5.0 already in the F150.
Since you guys are in colorado, can you do a All terrain tire comparison? KO2's vs others??
the voodoo v8 would be pretty cool in a raptor... pretty cool
People who cry about a V8, clearly don't understand much about gross vehicle weight and payload capacity.
Making the vehicle lighter, with lighter chassis and engine, while also increasing its power, increases its competitive advantage in towing and payload capacity.
Thank government mandates for that.
7.01 is very slow considering 450 hp and 510 tq
also 10 speed
i was expecting 5-6.5 sec
There were 3 0-60 runs in the review. One was 7.01 (uphill) the others were 6.26 and 5.80 - well within your range of expectation.
This test wasn't scientific. Other tests say low-mid 6s, which is much better. Still, consider the power numbers, the complexity of this engine, the higher price tag, the lightweight aluminum body, the 10 speed, etc.,etc., it's actually not that great. The previous Raptor was doing mid 6s without any of that, so I don't see why this isn't significantly better.
Yeah the 2017 F150 3.5L is 375hp and 470ft-lbs-tq and it does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds. I'm guessing this one is much heavier and with much larger heavier wheels... I'll wait for the magazines to test the 0-60 as the equipment they use is much more accurate.
this is also in a high elevation area
now is good :)
TFL and fans....What is the better truck? 14 or 17 Raptor?
The exhaust does sound weak. They should have tunes it more like the V6 Jaguar F Type. Pretty sweet truck overall though.
The real question for part 2... will you trade in your old version for this new one???
Can't wait to see the dealer markups :(
I don't get why they don't give you an option for a V8
Hey Roman, if and when you get the 17' Raptor to colorado, are you going to do a mash up with the 14' Raptor. By the way, I bought your book Truck nuts.
sweet exhaust note
These guys better buy the new raptor like they did with the 2014 model :D
Yeah the V8 sounded amazing but the V6 is a lot faster and it still sounds good
Great stuff I wish you could get them in the UK
Pete Davis All we get is a Ranger, which is shockingly terrible
@8:20 It's got UNIQUE everything, and Common Nothing. That'll be fun to have work done nowhere except the dealership...
I want this truck so badly 😭
Still miss that 6.2l
Holy orange peel @ 10:56. I thought my 2016 Explorer Platinum paint was bad. looks like the new raptor is no better.
If I was to buy me a brand new Ford Raptor to the price of $60,000...fuel economy was probably what worried me the least! :D
Did he really just say that you cannot over heat the shocks? I run 3.5 kings with actual bypasses and they get hot.
Harbour freight should sell a truck so i can afford it.
but it would fall apart and it wouldn't be covered by the warranty
I would buy the extended 2 year warranty and my vehicles fall apart anyhow
rob armstrong Make sure you use the 20% off coupon when you purchase you're new Raptor.
Sweet ! Will also read up on the hf reviews for the rapter
Going to be plagued with recalls and tsbs and unsolvable problems
as almost every new engine does
jaysplace01 3.5 ecoboost is far from new... its going to have problems because its a ford.
Nippledozer Oh and let me guess you're an expert right? I'm sure you've owned a tone of Fords that have all crapped out on you or your dear ol Dad loved chevy to death so you just followed suit right? Shut up gay boy.
Nippledozer oh i know I was referring to the raptors 3.5L since it has a few different part but yea ford is kinda shit so theres that XD
ben better Not sure why we're lookin at sales numbers, but if we are, you should keep in mind that the gmc and chevy 1500 twins outsold the f150. Ive been working on cars for years and ford never ceases to amaze me with poor engineering. Do some research into their "special" spark plugs... lol
It sounds like crap, but like the truck though!
time for an engine and tranny swap
tyler boyer yea
Taylor James that would be good. i have heard of that being a possibility
tyler boyer I think maybe the Coyote engine will introduced for a Raptor series
Ricky G maybe. that would be awsome
All the V8 cry babies crack me up. The last generation was slower than a standard F150, and got shit for fuel mileage.
Can't wait to smoke them in my truck. Vast upgrade in every area over then Gen 1, except exhaust note. 25% faster in off road tests. I'll take that any day over sound.
exactly.
Dude the v8 was so much faster than a "standard" f150. Unless it was the big ecoboost in the f150 which was faster. And also in no way shape or form a "standard" f150
its a truck not a fucking drag car. its a offroad truck at that. its point isn't to go fast but to go offroad and it does that very well. the v8 is more than just sound for me. its about the low end that v8's have over the EB
tyler boyer 510ftlbs @3500rpm is better than any V8 right now. GM 6.2 does 460@4100, Ram 6.4 429@4000.
I love the stupid arguments people are making for Ford's decision not to at least offer one of their V8 engines...
Yes, the new Raptor might sound like crap, but it puts down better drag times and will be more fuel efficient..... because on-road performance and fuel economy is what Raptor buyers are most concerned with.
I live beyond my means and enjoy racing old ladies in their Toyota Camrys on a daily basis. Don't tell me what I should be more or less concerned with, you!!!!
Chris C The raptor is essentially the sports version of the f150. It assumes you are less concerned with it.
Chris C were you being sarcastic? The Ecoboost are great engines. But dude you are buying the baddest off road truck. Why would you want it to sound like shit. Raptor buyers want that v8 sound. Who cares about mpg? Your buying a raptor!!
He's being sarcastic... most Raptors buyers don't want a sports car that is a truck, they want an off-road beast ... like the power-wagon.
If you're buying a truck for off road purposes why should you be concerned with on road capabilities? The old raptors are in my opinion the better ones but that's just me. After this video with mixed driving he only got 1.4 mpg better than the 6.2 that's not much. Toss in a K$N in the 6.2 and I'm sure you'll catch up a little.
All this people hating on the V6TT and they cant even afford it haha how stupid lmao.
Got my 18 4x4 supercab for 28,800 2 weeks ago. Affordable for just about anyone.
I guess I'm the only one that likes the sound and doesn't mind the V-6, as long as it performs, who cares what it has. If anyone has seen The Grand Tour it's sad that most Americans actually do act like the American driver they have on the show. Hating anything that doesn't have a V8 regardless of what it can do because Merica!..... (and yes I'm American)
man, the eco boost is already not known for reliability and get far lower MPG under load / real world when compared to N/A V8's. : / but ford keeps trying to push the TTV6 onto their truck buyers. they should have put the 5.2L Voodoo V8 in here, would have been amazing and likely got better reliability + real world MPG.
My Transit van has the TTV6 with 3.73 rear end. The thing is a rocket ship and its not this H.O. version.
The Voodoo supercharged would be awesome as an option .
I'd personally like the Super Cab with a bench in the front and a 3.7 Naturally Aspirated V6 mated to the new 10 speed transmission. And the Ford version of the RAM Box. Those side bins on the RAM's are awesome.
i just want the N/A 5.2 :(
go for it. i guess torque isnt important to you....
the last 6.2L in the raptor did just fine with a high revving engine and lower torque.
neither of us mentioned the 6.2. you only mentioned the 5.2