DONT BUY A Raptor UNTIL You Watch This- all common issues of ownership.
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- If you’re buying a Raptor 2nd gen you need to know about these things,
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ALSO,
1) These trucks are meant for high speed off-roading, not towing. The springs are bouncy and light for that reason. It is going to squat if you tow heavy things or put a great deal of weight in the bed. That is the way it was designed. If you want to tow heavy, buy an F150 or put bags/Timbrens on your Raptor.
2) All leaf springs squeak after dirt and other debris gets in the leaf pack. This isn't a Raptor issue. Pressure wash them, and they will be fine until you get crap in there again.
3) If you mod it, expect Check Engine Lights, and Limp Mode at some point. Not every day. Not all the time, but it is probably going to happen. That is the price for playing around.
4) If you don't like the sound of the V6, you are welcome to not buy one. We don't want to hear your bitching.
5) A CAI (cold air intake) does not give you an appreciable HP increase. Ford knows what they are doing. You are more likely to get a CEL than any significant power change.
6) The factory tires will last as long as your lead foot will let them. Drive as you would like them to last. If they don't last, you are driving like you don't want them to last.
7) The SYNC system auto updates must be turned off for it to stop bugging you.
8) If you start the update via WiFi it will likely never finish. Take it to the dealer and let them flash it. You can also do the update via USB if you take the time to read the instructions.
9) There are drains for the sunroof. Clean them out from time to time to keep your interior dry.
10) The transmission shifts like a dump truck because it is a performance oriented vehicle that adapts to your driving style. If you take it to the dealer they can reset it so that it goes back to the soft defaults. Performance people like hard firm shifts. They actually pay extra for it.
Thank you!!!! Gosh I wish people would stop bitching about a specific use vehicle. This is a vehicle that was R&D on the desert. Personally I love it. And none of these complaints are an issue other than the cam issue, that's a good one to watch for.
Peavey02 yea I’m not trying to be negative, but it’s just infuriating, they spend all this money on crazy features and interior and cosmetic looks, but they put no effort into the heart and soul of the truck, the damn drivetrain!
@@Peavey02 liar
how do u fix the turbo lag on the new raptors
@@Peavey02 k thanks
“The wait was definitely worth the wait”
Its not a real truck. Tows less than a minivan and has crap trans. Dumped mine after 4 months.
James B if you are trying to use this thing for towing you don’t have a brain. It’s a performance race truck. If you wanna tow get a regular f-150 or f-250.
@@cadewelch2269 it's a truck still, at least it pretends to be.
@@jamesbudd9987my raptor 2017 still doing find till this day, maybe because i only towing 3ton stuff, when you buy a truck they will tell you what the max capacity it can tow
I was like, did I hear that right? Lmao
Imagine not using your sunroof because your afraid it will fail
LOL
Sounds like ford
I once had mine explode on the highway for no apparent reason...Wonder if one can get the truck without it.
I had 2017 limited with 52K miles and I was using the sunroof any chance I’ve gotten and it was fine. However, if it starts making the clunking noise, just wipe it down with a very thin lube and you will be good.
LMAO
lol you had me rolling at Ricardo seat option. @5:08
"Dramastic"? Ricardo? I cant stop laughing.....
That Ricky Ricardo seat option is a must.
I have a 19 and you are spot on with everything. It’s a bad ass truck though and I love mine.
In extreme cold weather such as -30 Celsius the electric door locks tend to not work, there was a recall for this issue that I had to go for lasted all day, but all in all the raptor that I own has made me very happy. I have owned my raptor for 1 year and 4 months.
Really good review. Comprehensive enough and well put together . Thank you
Same here, just bought a 2020 Super cab. I actually wanted the super cab and I sought it out. 13,000 miles, Color is rapid red, so far it’s flawless! I love it! $58,000.
Yes you can retrofit the rgb lighting. Have to replace all the lights... doors- dash- floor board- under seats- cup holders. Then program the bcm. I did it in my 18 Lariat!
Thanks man. Your review does help me in purchasing 2020 or 2019 Raptor.
Thumbs Up.
Awesome review dude! I learnt something about my favorite truck today. Thanks 🙏
Enjoy your new truck. Looks awesome!
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I wish more car reviews were this informative and honest about the real ownership issues, good job dude, please do more of these common issuse reviews on other cars and trucks
Yes my 2017 Raptor with 18k miles is at Chapman Ford Scottsdale dealer shop now getting the cam spacer pinging sound fixed, I have always heard it but went away once warmed up until recently, then my Ford service advisor said they always new it was an issue but only fix if customer complains about it, I was like WTF lady, seriously, she just smiled with no comment, I am not happy with Ford, I luv my Raptor, but Ford does not take care of its customers, so now i am searching for all known Raptor issues before my 3 year warranty expires in March 2020, thank you for great video :))
I just bought a 2010 Raptor with only 90k miles for 20k. Put 3k miles on it in first 2 months and it runs better than the day I bought it. Looks almost brand new and Im gonna run it until the wheels fall off or until I’m rich enough to buy a brand new one 😂
Since day one love the 2020 Raptor.The nicest truck Ive ever owned.Thanks for sharing.
how long have you had it and is there anything wrong with it? thinking of getting one myself
Cam phaser rattle. Deceleration rattle. Wastegate rattle. 10R80 shifting issues. Do your research and read forums before buying.
I got my 2018 raptor just 1 k under msrp. I have one of the first metal oil pan. It was built in late april. They also changed the coolant color as they went to a different coolant in 2018.
I already have a problem with taking my new $75,000 + truck off road thrashing. After seeing this video, and reading the comments ,now I really don't want one ! Thanks for your honesty ..
If you aren’t into exploring trails and off-roading, then you clearly aren’t in the market for a raptor, that’s like saying I want to buy a boat but I’m afraid of waves crashing into it, so many dumb consumers think this is just a normal f150.
Jared Champagne shut up turd boy
Robert Stewart , I bought my Raptor 2018, now put 10k on it. I love it. Best truck I ever owned.
Was about to hit subscribe but saw you have no new content, bro! I wanted to see what new mods or thoughts on the Raptor by now!
A guy I know had an 18 that had lifter tick, dealer said the head had rust in it.. They said they "fixed it" then it had an engine fire, he told them to keep the truck and they gave him a 19
Hey I love your Instagram shots. Didn't realize that was you until today. :-) What dash cam is that mounted on your windshield? And do you use it for any of your videos? Thanks.
Ty for the vid went and buy a 2017 pre-owned raptor I loved it Best Buy and wait ever.
didnt know they came with plastic oil pans. I will be looking at a 17-18 next year when my silverado lease is up. Basically look out for the oil pan, engine noise, buy one without a sunroof, lol, and 360 camera. Gotcha !
Never run 87 in high compression engines. That is for emergency fills only. Lower octane gas combust at lower pressures and in high compression engines can lead to premature detonation, excessive wear, and if you are lucky it would only lead to a much shorter life than running higher octane gas.
turbo engines are lower compression as far as chamber goes, you mean with turbo injection?
These trucks just needs a little more love than a usual truck does. My sunroof. Keep it lubed twice a year haven’t had an issue. 2018 raptor. Cam phasers did fail. Dealer changed all 4 and put in 3 tensioners. Told me to change oil at 5 k to avoid that again. So far so good. Shifting is solved with a tune. Does not void warranty. It’s a great truck but it does need attention. You need make sure the oil is always at the right level. Clean the maf sensors once a year. Truck is loving me I’m loving her. 46k and going strong.
How’s it been now?
What tune did you use to fix the shifting?
Supply and demand buddy...I agree picking up a used one saves money...be sure it's not been beat all to pieces for sure!
Thanks for the research, awesome info
I live in Cali and I just got my new Raptor with zero mark up. If I would have went an hour down the road I would have paid 20-30k more for the same truck. I got mine at a small dealership compared to a much bigger dealership down the road. I did have to be patient and wait till they got one that I wanted but it was worth the 20-30k in price. Most dealerships do it with most "specialty" vehicles. Salesman told me its a "fair market value" or something like that. Basically a way to charge more for the willing. Happy hinting.
Thank you for a great review. A plastic oil pan - WTF? Good to know what to look out for.
I work at a high volume dealership in missouri and we ship quite a few raptors to callifornia and lots of other states due to this markup trend. its cheaper for people to buy one from us and either ship it or fly out and drive it home.
Subscribed; great video!
Great video. I am subscribing to you bc of it. I have a question. I bought a 2018 ford raptor and I absolutely love it. The one thing I would say is that there is a very annoying slight rattle noise that comes from the driver side door when I drive over un even roads. When I old the door handle sometimes it stops the noise sometimes it doesn’t. I want to take the door apart and see more about the internals. Possible rattling due to the speaker? I am not sure. Would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you
2021’s are having teething issues as well. Uneven tailpipes, loose transmission cooler lines that leak, flares not installed properly, miscellaneous bolts and parts sitting inside the cab, fuses not seated, incorrect engine shroud installed on the assembly line, coolant lines rubbing on crankshaft pulley, misaligned front bumpers, etc.
That’s Ford for ya
Nice video. I’m not a Raptor owner, just a fan. I’m not a fan of the graphic above the real wheel. That would be one of the first things I would mod. I subscribed
The CamPhaser issue can happen at anytime. I’ve seen them at 10k all the way up to 126k and sometimes multiple times on the same truck. Mine has 78k and so far no issue.
One year later… how’s it been
@@aidenfenn9823 99k miles now and still no issues.
Very helpful! Thanks man!!
Most dealerships are terrible with sales. I had good luck with brondes ford in maumee ohio. It is about 110 miles from me. I answered some questions forwarded some info before going. Went there, sales guy gave me the keys to test drive while he finished with current customer. Caught me off guard I barely walked in and he asked if I was the one who inquired about the f150... Usually you walk in wait a bit. Go sit down get a few questions.
I also got delivery of my truck included as last minute my backup driver to take me had canceled. I was given a certificate for free $50 ham near there, unfortunately they'd closed. They'd offered to have it delivered when my truck would be.
I'm not crazy about buying new vehicles or going to dealerships since they often don't do good for sales or even maintenance, but I may drive back there again... I believe they were awarded by ford recently for their sales/service.
Definitely listen for cam phaser issues if you’re buying used. I have a ‘17 Raptor with 40k miles on it now. I bought it new ($1,000 below sticker - it just took 3 months of searching dealerships nationwide to find one that wouldn’t charge the stupid markup) and although I love it, I have had issues. A fuel injector failed, which allowed so much unburned fuel through the exhaust and out the tailpipes that I can’t believe it only left me stranded and didn’t go up in flames. I had cam phaser issues that required a major repair. I noticed the cam phaser “rattle” at about 20,000 miles but it got worse worse over time until the check engine light came on at 36,000 miles and the dealership finally admitted there was an issue. On more than one occasion , the doors have failed to close when the temperature dropped below 20 degrees Fahrenheit- even after the door recall repair was performed by dealership. When that happens, I have to let the truck run for 15 minutes to warm it up before the doors will close. The ambient lighting sometimes randomly changes the color of some bulbs - but not all bulbs - on its own. The auto-up power driver side window doesn’t always function, and the truck sometimes backfires after refueling (and I’m not overfilling the tank or topping it off.) Definitely frustrating to have so many issues with a $60,000+ vehicle with only 40,000 miles on it.
how's it running today?
the cold door problems use silicone spray. not sure about the lights. cam phaser def a big one. Stuck open injector, well use Lucasmodifier
Good Job Man
"Dramastic"
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"Pamoranic"
😂😂 talk about it
Recardos
Looks like Livermore Ford @ beginning. That’s where I bought my F-150 ... good experience! 👍🏻
Great post. Thank you. I think it was 2017 or 2018 models the dealer markup was $50,000 - totally insane.
You mention thst the Raptor is extra large and hsrd to parallel park? Does that mean it will not fit in a standard garage?
Dealers put that mark up see whos ready to go to war lol
Good advice man thanks!
Very good information, I own 2017 Raptor and 2019 Tundra Trd Pro and i think of buying the 2020 raptor but after watching this i think i will stick with my 2017 raptor
Dear God what do you do for a living and if you have no children will you adopt me?
Nice UPR Catch Can kit!
You had me at plastic oil pan and again on the "improved" aluminum oil pan. I guess at least in the Raptor there's a decent skid plate below either of these sub-par oil pan materials to protect them but damn ... talk about saving a few bucks on a $70k+ truck!
Lol how about they use a “steel” oil pan!
$52+ truck
I was SHOCKED as that is an important item! Im sure after market or replacements in aluminium are easy to find.
A $70,000 truck with a plastic oil pan! for that price, the pan should be made out of GOLD!
Plastic can be better than steel. Example ar15 p mags are made out of plastic you can run them over with a truck they still work perfectly. Run a steel mag over and its finished. Not saying ford is good plastic just saying plastic can be as good or better in certain circumstances.
Good video, lots of info!
Thank you!
...and, subscribed!
Have the 2019.. 20k miles and already exchanged both live valve shocks. Also got the damn park brake assist message recently. Pissed.
You bought an American made and American brand vehicle. What did you expect?
@@GeorgeZimmermen Cheers!
Enjoyed your video bro! Just bought a 2019 with 25k miles. I was driving it and when I pulled into a parking lot I noticed white smoke coming out the driver side front wheel well. Any idea what it might be?
"Only be saving 1 or 2 cram"
Excellent video, thank you
their prices drop big time after a year or so. looking at a few in the 40s with lower miles. i think now is a good time to buy.
Slightly less knock 93 is for safety the knock sensor limits the power to keep it from going bang
I noticed on yours that the Shift Indicators P N D M light up on yours; they do not on my 2020
Same here in Canada! 35K mark up!
Im also in the bay area and just picked up a 2018 magnetic blue raptor!
What catch can do you have?
You can get the sun roof repaired for about $800 at a non dealer shop with upgraded aluminum tracks. Takes 4 hours.
I’m under warranty and my sunroof won’t fully close. There a little itty bit of a corner sticking out took it to dealer ship and they said it would take them a 4 days to even get the truck looked at all the meanwhile still wait on parts after that soo I took the truck rejected leaving it there for who knows how long. Any info on where to buy those tracks
Dramastic is my new word. Love it.
I am a big fan of ford raptor and I am a 14 year old kid and I am saving money to get me one and I will be proud of my self wen I get it and I was scared that he was going to say that the Ford raptor was not worth buying then he said that a pre own one is better I got relief
In SoCal and the markup on these are foolish. Priced one at $71.5k marked up to $91k in LA. Then priced the exact same configuration in Illinois and they were offering $71k sticker, $69.2k out the door. Shipping to SoCal is $1700-$2250. Worse case scenario I get the truck in Illinois pay $72k with shipping and save $19k. Never pay ABOVE sticker for a product that loses 15-25% of value off the shelf.
there are a lot of idiots out there that are buying that, im going to pass, ill just get a tundra.
I heard that the Eco boost engine cause problems on about 20% of the models.... Is that correct?
100% correct. I have the sunroof and oil leak. Now what ?
Ford in Morgan Hill CA sells them new at MSRP possibly lower great deals.
Thank you! Great Video
I can only imagine what you paid for your used 18’ here in SoCal.. lol
I am also local to the area and bought my new 18’ SCrew Raptor back on 3/18’ for $54k (with only a few options) out of Plainfield, Indiana. $~2k below MSRP.
Had it shipped to me locally.
Lol got y buddy a 2019 in Cali fully loaded
interesting that here in the EU..people usually refer to premium fuel as 100 octane...the non-led 95..is regular here...really interesting - I bet for these turbo if you would use 100 octane premium with additives to clean and support the engine..you would be amazed of the performance
Nou, we have EVAP system to make up for and 100oct with EVAP will burn up the engine. Lesson learned with GSXR 1000
Damn... this helps a lot.
Own a 2020 Gen 2 Raptor. I live in Kuwait, and *absolutely abuse it* every winter. Currently sitting at 86k (kilometers not miles, its 53k miles atm. Apologies to my American brothers.)
It rides fantastic. The amount of jumps, woops, and powerslides it ate up at 86-95 mph, and not one time did I get a check engine light nor did I ever have to rebuild my shocks, and it drives *flawlessly* on the road. Ford knocked it out of the park with this truck.
Thx for the video and researching info. If you like the gen2 raptor then this is the year to buy since ford had refined most of the kinks. The new gen of raptor is in the work but I won’t be buying Ford gen1 of anything. Well, that also hold truth to most automobile brands
Your kinda wrong sir , the Gen 1 Raptor is more reliable than the Gen 2 in my opinion , Gen 2 may look nice and better specs but definitely not more reliable
🎉nice big congratulations brother 🙌🏽🏆🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👋🏽👋🏽
Great video 👍🏻
20-30 dousand
I want a raptor so bad but don't think I could ever actually bring myself to buy one. For Ford built maintenance alone. The service writer at my honda dealer said he used to work for Ford and said they require 4x as much maintenance in comparison.
Not bitching about the exhaust but in mine I did turn off the fake exhaust noise from the speakers.
2020 trd pro owner here. No issues yet
Great truck, I have two of them, But Ford you should have address
and rectified the plastic oil pan leak in all 2017 Raptors. Many Raptor owners
are still dealing with this mess.
could you install a Alum from later year?
@@mmm4638 I believe you can. I got ford to fix the oil leak.
@@custodianfile for free? ✅
Amazing video, very knowledgeable. Subbed 👌
Psychiatrist: Mexican mike Tyson doesn’t exist he can’t hurt you
the guy in this video: Ricardo sits
Welp there goes my idea of towing heavy things behind it
Great video! I’m undecided about buying a new 19 Raptor w/ out the 802a package. Around where I live I can get one for $55-59k. Less options (no moonroof) but I would get the 3-year 36k warranty.
The other option would be to buy a 17/18 w/ 20-30k miles but w/ the 802a pacakage. That I can get for $55-59 and CPO.
How much did you pay for yours? Mileage? I wanted the 802a because of the moonroof but it might be not worth it if it’s going to fail at some point. Thanks!
I might buy a 2012 6.2 L svt raptor. It has 150,000 miles, they want $21,995. It's in very good condition. Blue book value is $22,406. Is this worth buying??
Great ! Does this model available in the Philippines?
And how much??
What about 93 octane gas?
We salute you bro
How much did you pay for your 2017?
The Raptor looks good in white w/black trim
Enjoyed your vid, great info
Come to Texas or Oklahoma and buy a new one, they are under $60,000 all day long for a new 2020!
kylecagle29 where are you looking I’m in Texas and I can’t find any
Full option ??
60 is still a lot why not 50
Micky Kittl 801a , no 802a goes for 60k new. ever.
@@johnrios329, Southwest Ford in Weatherford has (3)2019 (NEW) 802a Raptor trucks (2 Blue, 1 Silver all with graphics) with no dealer markup for just under $70K
Ooooh man really a plastic Oil Pan. Well I’m glad I came across this vid I’m thinking about either ones of these or a Tundra. I guess I’ll just keep my 2011 CVPI a couple more years lol
Tyler Allen theres a 1/4 inch steel skid plate underneath the the oil pan, regular oil pans rot out and are a pain in the ass to change when they do, dont let an oil pan make you get a gay ass truck over the most badass one on the market.
If youre even considering a Toyota Tundra, the raptor is not for you, the tundra is a family mans camry with a pickup bed and a raptor is a high performance niche vehicle for enthusiasts with the boundaries of truck performance being pushed to the edge, do your research before you buy things. You’re obviously not in the market for a raptor.
Jared Champagne Jared you are a moron...Steel oil pans rust out? You’re a fucking fool so let’s add a plastic oil pan that shatters when hit lol fucking moron
The next gen Tundra is coming for 2021.
@@jaredchampagne2752The Tundra unlike the raptor has actually finished Baja1000 events in the stock class. The only raptor to complete 1 baja 1000 was in 2017 and still finished behind a Landcruiser with 52 seconds to spare before it could have been disqualified. Cut the bullshit you moron. You have no clue about any of these trucks.
I like how you say button
In northern CA. All trucks are marked up 20k new. Used with 15k miles they sell for close to original MSRP. Screw that. I found them in the Midwest in June, 1 year old 20k miles, $58k out the door. Cost me 1,200 to fly, stay the night, and drive back. Still under 60k.
Compare to exact same year and 802A upgrades in nor Cal, 54k miles $64k miles.
I should start a import business and sell them out curb side at the Ford dealers in Nor CA and make 10k on each truck LMFAO!
David Bianchini lol. How does that work? Do you only pay sales tax to the dmv in CA? Or do you lay to out of state dealer and ca?
@@pjrodriguez9755 You owe sales tax in the state you return to and register it in. I never paid or registered it in MO, just got dealer plates and drove it back. The dealer had sold multiple vehicles, the same way before. As a matter of fact, a guy was picking up a Mustang to take back to FL that same morning. These dealers will pick you up at the airport.
Not at Sunrise ford in Fontana....they are blowing those things out.....
Awesome video
I bought mine 20 May2019 and its a good truck.
did you encounter any problems with it?
"Ricardo seats" awesome
Recaro Seat*
The seats name is Ricardo. He's a cool guy not a great seat, but that's because of his drug problem.
Can I tow a small travel trailer you know the smallest ones with a shower and kitchen. The kind you see Jeep Grand Cherokee 4runners and even highlanders and equinox’s towing? I want a Raptor but I want to be able to tow a small Coleman or Forrest river T.T without any weird issues.
Victoria M I tow an 8,000lb toy hauler with my raptor no problem, you just need to buy a $100 part that replaces the stock bump stops.
I watched this. As soon as i was done i ordered a Raptor 😂 😊