Great Video!!! I am right at this point in the rebuild of my ok 2wd 6.0. I have already replaced the front sway bar with the Helwig, mine did not come with a rear being a two wheel drive, but i did buy one for the rear as well. I have just bought EVERY possible rubber bushing component for the steering, Upper and lower ball joints, tie rods, inside and outside, drag link, ect ect, I Beam Axle Pivot Bushings, Radius Arm Bushings, even the Rear Leaf Shackle Bracket Bushings. I intend on getting the Bilstein 5100 series shocks, front and rear. Thanks for doing your video. It was right on point.
@@galenztwo It took a while to get use to not having the sloppy steering. It is super touchy now. but under control. I even went as far as to replace the steering gear box. Drives like it did new I guess. thx for the reply. joe
I have a 2002 XLT 2wd Excursion. I haven't had any of these issues but I did fix a suspension issue with the rear suspension that fixed all problems with rear body roll, ride comfort for both empty and under load, wheel hop and axel wrap. The cost? $450.00 The product? The Roadmaster Active Suspension. Under load, the product holds the rear end up but still gives a good and stable ride while not compromising ride quality when not under load. Tow capacity is also increased. But the most important part was the wheel hop and axel wrap that occurs under hard braking. These two factors are responsible for the rear wheels coming off the ground resulting in vehicle roll-over crashes. Twice, this product has saved me by keeping the rear wheels down on the ground and allowing me to avoid what should have been very serious crashes. It was worth every bit of the $450.00 (dollars). Not sure if it will work on the 4x4. That's something someone else will have to check into and report. Anywho, I'm not looking to get rid of my Excursion any time soon.
Great Info Ron thanks. When i upgraded the suspension (IE) the weak stock shocks and flimsy leaf-springs it eliminated any wheel hop problems for me. I believe the axle wrap only occurs when towing, however its definitely to be avoided.The Sway bars front and rear for me, was the biggest improvement, it really stiffened the chassis and tied every thing together...
True on impact resistance! I got rear ended by three cars while in the back of a funeral procession. All 3 cars were pretty much totaled, and all I suffered was a tweaked hitch. My '01 V-10 is a tank!
Thanks for the heads up I'm dealing with front suspension issues and the dual shock stabilizer sounds like a good answer. I am going to put a redhead steering box in as well. And the sway bars probably should be done too from what you're saying thanks again man. I love my ex!
I’ve never noticed any of those problems on mine (2003 4x4 v10 with only 30k on it) at least not yet. Also never thought the suspension was soft even compared to my 2000 f350 Diesel 4x4. So far I like everything about it but the mileage.
The Excursion is my dream vehicle some day. Maybe by the end of High School or begging of college I can find one reasonably between $15-20k. And 7.3L Diesel of course! ;D
@@gc99289 take it easy there smokey! You've still never owned NOR driven a 7.3l ps, an Excursion let alone any super duty. Not even an obs.... Stop it sweetie.
There is a huge difference between sway and wander. Sway is likely from soft suspension which Excursions are famous for. I believe the wander is from Fords choice to have the wrong amount of caster in the front end. BOTH are horribly exagertaed by huge tires and wheels. Also make sure your front cross-tie is not broken as the axle end mount is horribly underengineered. Note that Bilstein makes a wonderful steering damper for the Excursion. Very huge and beefy. I have found my Excurisions a woinderful rig, even with the 5.4L engine, yet needs constant fiddling and upgrades. I believe mine with the small v-8 weighs 8500 pounds...the same as my 1984 bread grumman bread van. Thanks for the video.
I don't have any steering issues out of my 2000 V10, even with my 33" Super Swampers. The problems I encountered where the shitty stock 4x4 hubs (PO drilled holes in the cap to lube them...aka gum them up, causing them to stay locked and wear on the stub shafts). And the shitty windshield seal job that ford did, which allowed water to run into my fuse box and create all sorts of "fond memories. Oh, and #4 sparkplug being shot out of the head, but that's common enough to all 2v ford modulars, lol. Other than that, I love my truck. Thinking someday I may go the cummins swap route, but for now, the PI 6.8 and 4.30 gears get the job done (about 10 mpg at a time, lol)
Ford Excursion is my favorite vehicle. My choice is V10 engine. Eventually, it is more reliable, than 7.3 TD or 6.0 TD. 5.4 engine is so weak for this heavy weight SUV.
I am happy with my 5.4L, even for towing a 26 foot travel trailer. A diesel would be nice but I would rather work on a gas engine.BTW, I got rid of my wandering issues with new shocks, stock tires/wheels, a bilstein sterring damper and repairing the front cross link mount on the axle. The famous death wobble has not reoccured either. I was sad to retire the nice 20" wheels and nearly new tires that were on it when I bought it but hey...function over form is my motto.
2000 Ex XLT, V10...minus the factory anti-sway bar (the links snap off road), minus steering stabilize (it got hit the first time off pavement), 300 added pounds of winch and bumper up front, 3 inch lift cuz stock is too low for cross ditches. An Ex ain't a porsche, it's a truck. These trucks, as is the 3/4 ton Super Duty on which it is based, are most happy on gravel and logging roads and should be bought and used as such. If you spend all your time on the pavement and in the mall, go buy a Subaru or a Yugo or a Smart car or a bicycle. Why struggle with turning a truck into a Porsche? Just buy a Porsche. And if it wanders, check the ball joints. Factory are garbage and these truck eat them like a fat kid eating Smarties.
Thanks for creating this video. Very informative. Could you provide here a little more info on the shocks? The brand and where I can get them. Thanks again
Sure, On the Front I Have Bilstein 33-187297 2" Lift Front Shock Ford F250, And on the rear Bilstein 24-185479 Heavy-Duty Gas Shock Absorber. The link is to Amazon. Thanks for the comment, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WO9S5I And the rear. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CINCQO
If you can only do one at a time, due to money, what order would you do them? Front or rear sway bars, shocks? Also, if this works I will be very impressed! Thanks in advance. I got 280k on my Excursion.
Great question, honestly my first purchase would be these, Skyjacker 9299 Silver Dual Stabilizer Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q7SYT4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kxq2AbTYP8SMX. These made the greatest impact in regards to the tightness of the steering and wandering. Next I would go front helwig then rear helwig. Finally front shocks then rear. Let me know how you make out.
Appreciate the video, Galen. I just ordered Hellwig sway bars front and rear based mostly on your feedback here. But a couple questions - it's been a year since you made this vid, have you done the 2" lift yet? If so, what product did you go with? Did the dual steering stabilizer from Skyjacker not require a lift? I too would like to raise the truck a modest couple inches, but haven't found the best way to do that yet. Maybe Bilstein 0-2" shocks and an add-a-leaf kit F & R. What exact model Bilstein shocks did you go with? Seems like everywhere I look the 5100's require 4" lift at a minimum on the Excursion.
Greetings, no I have lifted it as of yet. However I will be going with a 4'' lift when I do. The best way to accomplish this is with after market leaf springs, Amazon sells them in pairs. The front springs are different from the rear so be sure to get the correct ones. For the front steering stabilizers I did not need to lift the truck. When you search for the springs you will look for + 4 inc
Galen Ztwo, I have a 2002 excursion 4x4 7.3 Stock height. I’m going with Bilstein 33-187297 5100, for front height: 0-2.5"for the front and Bilstein 24-185479 Rear Shock Height: 0-1". Which shocks did you use in the rear?
Where did you get your grill? Great video. Just bought a 2003 X 2wd and love it. I will be def be doing the shocks and probably the sway bar kit later on. Also, will changing the rim to 20" and make tire wall smaller about a 55 help eliminate that sway?
The grill is a 2005 grill you can purchase on amazon. Yes upgradeing to 20s will add stability just check what lift you will need to clear the wheel wells, thanks for watching.
Galen, just wanted to get your opinion of a 2004 Ford excursion XLT 2wd 5.4 . I wouldn’t be doing any towing . Just looking to do a 4inch lift with 33s BFG ko2 . Any info would be helpful . Thank you
I think there great, I had one previously to my v10. They can feel a tad sluggish when loaded but the do get better gas mileage. The bigger tires will probably take the extra mpg away and tires that size will suck up some power from the motor. 2wd gets old when you want to go of road but get what u can afford.
Thanks for the response, yeah i was thinking of adding a super chips tune and upgrading the exhaust just to give it more power to move the 33s easier .
Galen Ztwo BRO 2INCHES.....THATS A WASTE OF TIME & MONEY! IM NOT BEING A DICK BUT THATS NOT EVEN A LIFT! WHEN THESE TRUCKS ARE 8 TO 10 PLUS YEARS OLD & YOU RAISE IT 2 INCHES YOU ARE PROBLY ABOUT THE SAME AS HOW IT CAME OUT STOCK FROM FACTORY! NOT NOTICEABLE UNLESS YOU HIT THE 4INCH PLUS MARK!
Thanks I appreciate the comments. I actually lifted my old 2 wheel drive X 4inches and yes it was very noticeable however this being a 4x4 is about 2 inches taller so a additional 2 is about were i want it, This is a daily family driver and it needs to remain practical at some level. I agree that it is a old truck and the leafs need to be replaced anyway so its no extra trouble.
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Great video! Ive got a 99 excursion. 285 000 miles and still kicking.
There built ford tough...
I'm assuming you have a 2000 model? Produced in 99. There's no 1999 model excursion
Gas engine? That would give me some hope for mine.
Rear air bags helped a ton for me also!!
Great Video!!! I am right at this point in the rebuild of my ok 2wd 6.0. I have already replaced the front sway bar with the Helwig, mine did not come with a rear being a two wheel drive, but i did buy one for the rear as well. I have just bought EVERY possible rubber bushing component for the steering, Upper and lower ball joints, tie rods, inside and outside, drag link, ect ect, I Beam Axle Pivot Bushings, Radius Arm Bushings, even the Rear Leaf Shackle Bracket Bushings. I intend on getting the Bilstein 5100 series shocks, front and rear. Thanks for doing your video. It was right on point.
Wow that sounds very thorough, it really takes that to have a smooth ride.
@@galenztwo
It took a while to get use to not having the sloppy steering. It is super touchy now. but under control. I even went as far as to replace the steering gear box.
Drives like it did new I guess.
thx for the reply.
joe
I have a 2002 XLT 2wd Excursion. I haven't had any of these issues but I did fix a suspension issue with the rear suspension that fixed all problems with rear body roll, ride comfort for both empty and under load, wheel hop and axel wrap.
The cost? $450.00
The product? The Roadmaster Active Suspension.
Under load, the product holds the rear end up but still gives a good and stable ride while not compromising ride quality when not under load. Tow capacity is also increased. But the most important part was the wheel hop and axel wrap that occurs under hard braking. These two factors are responsible for the rear wheels coming off the ground resulting in vehicle roll-over crashes. Twice, this product has saved me by keeping the rear wheels down on the ground and allowing me to avoid what should have been very serious crashes. It was worth every bit of the $450.00 (dollars). Not sure if it will work on the 4x4. That's something someone else will have to check into and report. Anywho, I'm not looking to get rid of my Excursion any time soon.
Great Info Ron thanks. When i upgraded the suspension (IE) the weak stock shocks and flimsy leaf-springs it eliminated any wheel hop problems for me. I believe the axle wrap only occurs when towing, however its definitely to be avoided.The Sway bars front and rear for me, was the biggest improvement, it really stiffened the chassis and tied every thing together...
Great video sir thank you I’ve done quite a bit of work on mine but definitely going to make these upgrades. Thanks again I appreciate greatly..☝️👍
Nice that you found and shared work-arounds. Kudos. BUT It's a truck! It drives like a truck and not a car. Thanks for sharing.
I second that. NOTHING like my ford F150 drove. But I still love my excursion.
True on impact resistance! I got rear ended by three cars while in the back of a funeral procession. All 3 cars were pretty much totaled, and all I suffered was a tweaked hitch. My '01 V-10 is a tank!
It's nice to drive in security 🚨
Thanks for the heads up I'm dealing with front suspension issues and the dual shock stabilizer sounds like a good answer. I am going to put a redhead steering box in as well. And the sway bars probably should be done too from what you're saying thanks again man. I love my ex!
Thanks for checking in..
I’ve never noticed any of those problems on mine (2003 4x4 v10 with only 30k on it) at least not yet. Also never thought the suspension was soft even compared to my 2000 f350 Diesel 4x4. So far I like everything about it but the mileage.
I thought swapping bigger wheel like 20 inches while keeping the same overall diameter would reduce a lot of the lateral mouvement
Very good information, very useful. Thank you dude! Greetz from Norway!
Thank you, Im glad you liked it
The Excursion is my dream vehicle some day. Maybe by the end of High School or begging of college I can find one reasonably between $15-20k. And 7.3L Diesel of course! ;D
The x is the best it's easy to love it's great qualities. Good luck on your search.
7.3 is a snail, kiddo. Everyone jumps on 7.3 like a goofus, which is why those things are so overpriced. You'll be underwhelped what 7.3 does stock.
@@gc99289 you've never owned not driven a 7.3l powerstroke
@@quentinterry8526 Because you know what I've owned and driven, dumbfuck. Pipe down
@@gc99289 take it easy there smokey! You've still never owned NOR driven a 7.3l ps, an Excursion let alone any super duty. Not even an obs.... Stop it sweetie.
E rated 3 ply tires was all I needed on the v-10, 4wd.
There is a huge difference between sway and wander. Sway is likely from soft suspension which Excursions are famous for. I believe the wander is from Fords choice to have the wrong amount of caster in the front end. BOTH are horribly exagertaed by huge tires and wheels. Also make sure your front cross-tie is not broken as the axle end mount is horribly underengineered. Note that Bilstein makes a wonderful steering damper for the Excursion. Very huge and beefy. I have found my Excurisions a woinderful rig, even with the 5.4L engine, yet needs constant fiddling and upgrades. I believe mine with the small v-8 weighs 8500 pounds...the same as my 1984 bread grumman bread van. Thanks for the video.
I got 20 inch wheels with 35" BFG all terrains = great ride swaying is minimal
If you get the superduty suspension the vehicle will be a little bit taller but it would really help with towing!
Yes the famous V codes that's true.
Can it fit in garage after?
@@HardCorps88 it's not much an inch and a half at best
I don't have any steering issues out of my 2000 V10, even with my 33" Super Swampers. The problems I encountered where the shitty stock 4x4 hubs (PO drilled holes in the cap to lube them...aka gum them up, causing them to stay locked and wear on the stub shafts). And the shitty windshield seal job that ford did, which allowed water to run into my fuse box and create all sorts of "fond memories. Oh, and #4 sparkplug being shot out of the head, but that's common enough to all 2v ford modulars, lol. Other than that, I love my truck. Thinking someday I may go the cummins swap route, but for now, the PI 6.8 and 4.30 gears get the job done (about 10 mpg at a time, lol)
Joe R - Gassers are junk
Good information.
Great video BRO! You should add links for all those goodies!
thanks brother. all these products can be found on Amozon.
Ford Excursion is my favorite vehicle. My choice is V10 engine. Eventually, it is more reliable, than 7.3 TD or 6.0 TD. 5.4 engine is so weak for this heavy weight SUV.
Largest SUV The KING very true
MrRanvic do 05 5.4 v8 gas has any issues I’m thinking of getting one
I am happy with my 5.4L, even for towing a 26 foot travel trailer. A diesel would be nice but I would rather work on a gas engine.BTW, I got rid of my wandering issues with new shocks, stock tires/wheels, a bilstein sterring damper and repairing the front cross link mount on the axle. The famous death wobble has not reoccured either. I was sad to retire the nice 20" wheels and nearly new tires that were on it when I bought it but hey...function over form is my motto.
I've had the V10 and the 7.3, the 7.3 is far more reliable and much better economy
@@geraldhenrickson7472 Just make sense...
A like for a fellow X owner.
My excursion I put 18" wheels on my also. I got less side wall.
2000 Ex XLT, V10...minus the factory anti-sway bar (the links snap off road), minus steering stabilize (it got hit the first time off pavement), 300 added pounds of winch and bumper up front, 3 inch lift cuz stock is too low for cross ditches.
An Ex ain't a porsche, it's a truck. These trucks, as is the 3/4 ton Super Duty on which it is based, are most happy on gravel and logging roads and should be bought and used as such. If you spend all your time on the pavement and in the mall, go buy a Subaru or a Yugo or a Smart car or a bicycle.
Why struggle with turning a truck into a Porsche? Just buy a Porsche.
And if it wanders, check the ball joints. Factory are garbage and these truck eat them like a fat kid eating Smarties.
Where did get the headlights and how much?..thanks
Great video.
Great info!
Thank you
Thanks for creating this video. Very informative. Could you provide here a little more info on the shocks? The brand and where I can get them. Thanks again
Sure, On the Front I Have Bilstein 33-187297 2" Lift Front Shock Ford F250, And on the rear Bilstein 24-185479 Heavy-Duty Gas Shock Absorber. The link is to Amazon. Thanks for the comment, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WO9S5I And the rear. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CINCQO
I also went with bilstein also...very happy
thanks. I hope to get one soon
They are mean And command respect. Good Luck Finding your Baby.
If you can only do one at a time, due to money, what order would you do them? Front or rear sway bars, shocks? Also, if this works I will be very impressed! Thanks in advance. I got 280k on my Excursion.
Great question, honestly my first purchase would be these, Skyjacker 9299 Silver Dual Stabilizer Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q7SYT4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kxq2AbTYP8SMX. These made the greatest impact in regards to the tightness of the steering and wandering. Next I would go front helwig then rear helwig. Finally front shocks then rear. Let me know how you make out.
Nice truck bro
Thanks Brother.
Thanks for the video. Very informative. What model is your truck and is V10 the best choice? If you recommend diesel which model is your choice?
Sorry bro for late response, I love my v10 4x4 it definitely come down to choice, I drive a semi all day so I get sick of the droning of the diesel.
Do you have link where to buy the recommended sway bars?
You can find them on amazon.
Appreciate the video, Galen. I just ordered Hellwig sway bars front and rear based mostly on your feedback here. But a couple questions - it's been a year since you made this vid, have you done the 2" lift yet? If so, what product did you go with? Did the dual steering stabilizer from Skyjacker not require a lift? I too would like to raise the truck a modest couple inches, but haven't found the best way to do that yet. Maybe Bilstein 0-2" shocks and an add-a-leaf kit F & R. What exact model Bilstein shocks did you go with? Seems like everywhere I look the 5100's require 4" lift at a minimum on the Excursion.
Greetings, no I have lifted it as of yet. However I will be going with a 4'' lift when I do. The best way to accomplish this is with after market leaf springs, Amazon sells them in pairs. The front springs are different from the rear so be sure to get the correct ones. For the front steering stabilizers I did not need to lift the truck. When you search for the springs you will look for + 4 inc
Galen Ztwo, I have a 2002 excursion 4x4 7.3 Stock height. I’m going with Bilstein 33-187297 5100, for front height: 0-2.5"for the front and Bilstein 24-185479 Rear Shock Height: 0-1". Which shocks did you use in the rear?
Hey thanks for the comment, I used Bilstein 24-185479 for the rear, super tough.👍🏼
Awesome thanks that's what I just ordered. 10 minutes ago on amazon. Thanks for replying back so fast.
Galen Ztwo Do you happen to have a link where you got the duel shock stabilizer?
Where did you get your grill? Great video. Just bought a 2003 X 2wd and love it. I will be def be doing the shocks and probably the sway bar kit later on. Also, will changing the rim to 20" and make tire wall smaller about a 55 help eliminate that sway?
The grill is a 2005 grill you can purchase on amazon. Yes upgradeing to 20s will add stability just check what lift you will need to clear the wheel wells, thanks for watching.
Im not going with huge tires. I will be putting 285/55/20. should fit like a glove. if anything ill be doing a 2" lift
Yeah that sounds awesome, would love to see picks when ur done.
2003 350000 miles.
These are hard on gas about 8 miles per gallon.
So with that said. 43.750 gallon at let's just say average $2.79 per. Gallon----$165.812.5 so far.
@@sydowsam
Yeah but we don’t get these for Gas mileage do we. 😂
Hi B
Galen, just wanted to get your opinion of a 2004 Ford excursion XLT 2wd 5.4 . I wouldn’t be doing any towing . Just looking to do a 4inch lift with 33s BFG ko2 . Any info would be helpful . Thank you
I think there great, I had one previously to my v10. They can feel a tad sluggish when loaded but the do get better gas mileage. The bigger tires will probably take the extra mpg away and tires that size will suck up some power from the motor. 2wd gets old when you want to go of road but get what u can afford.
Thanks for the response, yeah i was thinking of adding a super chips tune and upgrading the exhaust just to give it more power to move the 33s easier .
Try Michelin tires.
I have a cracked now it's part of the swaybar did anybody know the part number or how to fix it
What is a cracked Now?
100th like!
Yess, Thank you
Galen Ztwo good video brother!
Thanks for the video. Greit info! George.
Glad to help
Galen Ztwo BRO 2INCHES.....THATS A WASTE OF TIME & MONEY! IM NOT BEING A DICK BUT THATS NOT EVEN A LIFT! WHEN THESE TRUCKS ARE 8 TO 10 PLUS YEARS OLD & YOU RAISE IT 2 INCHES YOU ARE PROBLY ABOUT THE SAME AS HOW IT CAME OUT STOCK FROM FACTORY! NOT NOTICEABLE UNLESS YOU HIT THE 4INCH PLUS MARK!
Galen Ztwo CLEAN TRUCK THOUGH
Thanks I appreciate the comments. I actually lifted my old 2 wheel drive X 4inches and yes it was very noticeable however this being a 4x4 is about 2 inches taller so a additional 2 is about were i want it, This is a daily family driver and it needs to remain practical at some level. I agree that it is a old truck and the leafs need to be replaced anyway so its no extra trouble.
Yes Sir
What model of shocks?