Drunk Claudia: GET ME WATER! Jessica: *brings water* Claudia: I DON'T WANT WATER! *smacks* Jessica: *adds lime to water* Here a gin and tonic. Claudia: oh okay This is so innovative. I've got to try this with drunk friends.
Only if you know they like gin and tonics though. I do love to drink on occasion, but if you'd ever handed me a "gin and tonic" before like 2 weeks ago, I'd have said "ew no." and gone back to whatever, lol.
I've got a friend who always sets up a full bar and bartends for every house party, and over new years we came up with my new favorite drink, the Respect Women Juice. You fill a pint glass up with water and then bomb a shot glass of lacroix in and everyone stands around shouting "CHUG CHUG CHUG" which we definitely used to convince some very drunk people to get some water in.
And my sleep-deprived brain keeping thinking Jessica is drinking alcohol in the vid even though they've stated very early in and it's visually obvious that it's Diet Coke.
My friends son has just come out as trans (ftm) and your channel has been ace at helping me "get it" a bit more - I've always been happy for anyone to be whatever gender makes then happiest, but there's so many things I've never thought of before and you've made me much more aware :D
Didnt expect that collab! But its the best! I love both yoir channels, but I never thought there was so much overlap in your audiences, but according to the comments so many people watch both channels.
I don’t know if this is rude but I had no idea you were trans ❤️ I don’t know if you have specific pronouns or what to address you as but I totally know you are male. *this is meant to be a compliment so I really hope it gets taken that way
@@alexandrabrandt8520 SAMESAME, just came down to comment the exact same thing. ........ Do you think we all have good taste or just all need to get out more......
Love this! I have generations of addiction from both my parents so I dont drink because of that (and also it doesn't taste good at all) and people are always so confused or try to push drinks onto me. I really wish there were more non-alcoholic lgbtq events/gatherings/etc, lowkey my dream is to open a lgbtq cafe
I also don't drink due to rampant alcoholism on both sides of my family. And yes, it tastes ICKY - and when you factor in that alcohol is a waste product of sugar-eating bacteria, the realization of drinking literal pee just puts the cherry on the cake for me.
I have a friend who just never really started drinking and she gets more stupid then those of us who drink. She just sucks up the energy in the room and gets what we call “drunk by proxy.”
I'm in my teenage years and so many people are so shocked when I say I don't drink. It's definitely a big thing in the UK I think. I agree with Jamie that being the only sober person in the room can be entertaining
@@TheSuzberry Yeah I totally agree! I find that it's usually entertaining when people are tipsy or verging into drunk but usually boring once they have all gone into the completely drunk stage. The noise is not fun either 😂
I'm Finnish and I don't drink alcohol OR coffee which causes some awkward situations at parties and family gatherings 😅 But even though Finns are stereotypically heavy drinkers, my generation (people in their twenties and younger) are actually increasingly more sober, so even as a college student I've never felt unwelcomed or out of place at events because usually there are other non-drinkers as well and nobody has ever said anything bad about me not wanting to get drunk or not consuming alcohol. Also I 100% agree on the saving money part, it's kind of ridiculous how much money one can put into alcoholic drinks and luckily I've never had to worry about that.
Also a Finn, and I drink only very occasionally and never to get drunk. First year in university the general events and parties were alcohol-heavy and I didn't quite feel I belonged. But I found my people in more ways than one from the university anime and manga club. Nobody drinks in the weekly meetings and parties never center around alcohol, as many do not drink at all. But drinking isn't judged, even though some people have felt hesitant to bring alcohol since they haven't seen anyone else drink :P And I think what you say about changing culture is true.
I'm the same! Can't go anywhere without being offered coffee... luckily I learnt to drink tea and that's usually an option. The alcohol is a bigger issue for me, I had to stop due to addiction. And it's impossible to get away from alcohol here, I can't remember the last time I hung out with my friends with everyone sober. And no one in Finland wants to admit that the drinking is a problem.
Oh my god is this a collab I never thought I would see but I am so glad it's here! I live in Wales and oh my god does everyone drink. I think if some people had the money they would literally drink every night. Me on the other hand, I literally do not care, I will drink on special occasions or if (like Shaaba) the drink is one of my favourite flavours. I can't drink things that taste like alcohol so I normally go for simple drinks that taste like fruit or Dr. Pepper. I have a work Christmas party on Friday and we are going to see a Queen cover band and I am looking forward to it but I know I will be a lot soberer than everyone else in the room.
Oh my goodness! I’m going to send the links of both Jamie & Shaaba to a very close friend of mine. (No worries Jessica, I sent them to your channel immediately so they could find links to other LGBTQ+ creators) She was married 3 years ago & her husband had expressed that he had a propensity towards cosmetics, women’s clothing, etc. (Changing pronouns now FYI). They slowly started to come out, & then; they were 'suddenly' let go from their job (for insufficient work, which was quite odd since they had recently been promoted 🤔). After that, they went full on in activities, clothing, grew a beard, ANYTHING to appear more manly since they knew that the field they worked in would be completely intolerant towards them. My friend had a very hard time at first, however; she knew that the heart & soul of her spouse had not changed & she supports them 100%. They started going to therapy & she also realized she had never been attracted towards a "manly man" & is also exploring her sexuality! So they are both going through very big changes at the same time! Her spouse is on hormone therapy, has had electrolysis on their face & was just accepted to a very high end cosmology school!🥳 I’m rambling all of this because I’m sure they both will learn a lot from Jamie & Shaaba just as they have from other collabs Jessica has done with Ash Hardell, Stevie Bobbie plus Jessica& Claudia themselves of course! Thank you for being brave enough to put out content! It helps not only people in the LGBTQ+ community, but also others like me who are straight, yet we love our friends & want to support them in the "proper way"! Thanks to Jessica’s videos on “What NOT To Say & What TO Say to a LGBTQ+ Person", I was able to ask questions in a proper way. So again, thank you ALL for being awesome people & for educating anyone who is trying to learn. Much love & many hugs to you all🤗💜🦋😘🐾🐾(kisses for Walter & Tilly)!
Fun fact! The “8 glasses of water a day” was supposed to include water you get from food and other liquids! So you don’t need to force yourself to drink 8 glasses of water a day unless you are on a dehydrating medication or have a condition.
If I like the music, I'll be dancing on the tables anyway -- I don't drink b/c I grew up with an abusive alcoholic -- aaand people don't want to hear that - (and I don't like the taste either) - A friend & myself have not been invited w/other friends at times b/c we don't drink - Thank y'all for covering this subject - Love all y'all! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I’m nineteen and don’t drink. It’s just not for me, plus being in hc makes it so much ickier - alcohol is fucking terrible for your body, and it just makes it not fun for me to drink it - but I never went to any parties really in high school because I was literally the only person in my entire school who didn’t drink. It’s very excluding. And also, when I do attend things with just family etc they pressure me into drinking a lot. I don’t understand why : /
As someone who isn't really into alcohol and is a first year gay uni student (the time of peoples lives where everyone is super obsessed with being either drunk or high every weekend) its really nice to see two youtubers that I respect a lot be unapologetic about this topic. I stay away from peer pressure but its hard to not feel like your somehow wrong for not wanting to do what others are doing or that your being unfriendly/bad. People always get kinda weird around me when I tell them I don't drink just because I don't want to. This video is really important!
First of all: I love the collab! As for the topic: As a German, I was actually quite disturbed by British drinking culture when I studied in the UK. Don’t get me wrong, Germans love their alcohol and the legal drinking age for beer and wine is 16 (and we will still start before that😅) but still most Germans drink a lot more regulated than the British. Like, in the UK, my experience was that most parties/outings sole purpose seems to be getting drunk? And there’s no spectrum, there’s just ‘sober’ or ‘absolutely pissed’. In Germany people of course do drink at parties but not with the sole purpose of ending up drunk. Sometimes it’ll end there, but ‘partying’ isn’t synonymous with ‘getting pissed’. Also working adults I think drink a whole lot less than in the UK. So the concept of after-work drinks doesn’t exist, for example, and over all I’d say most people only ‘regularly’ drink on weekends (or another specific day of the week they might regularly go out with friends). Besides that it’s an occasional glass of wine/ beer with dinner or in front of the TV. Overall drinking or not drinking just isn’t that big a of a part of people’s lives and no one cares if you do or don’t. I know loads of people (of all ages) who don’t drink and no one cares. I personally probably drank most before I was legally allowed to (I don’t like beer and wine, so hard liquor it was) and after that I just kind of- stopped. Talk about the forbidden things being the most alluring 😅 I was always a year younger than my friends, so the year all of them turned 18 and had parties with unlimited supply of free alcohol was probably my roughest year. Later I went on medication and didn’t drink at all for 2 years straight. Now I have the occasional drink when I feel like it. Alcohol or no alcohol, It’s just- not a big deal.
I'm German and currently at Uni in the UK and I 100% agree with you, the drinking culture here is one of the things that annoy me most about the UK and I was quite shocked how different it is to Germany even though we have a reputation for drinking.
@@svenjavorthmsv3676 Agreed; I'm Canadian, and the entire time I was in the UK, despite telling people I don't drink, full on adults were shoving lukewarm beers into my hand and acting offended when I bird-chirped them. It's ridiculous. I'm not adverse to nursing a drink for the night, but it's like if you don't get full-on sloshed, you're a loser. -rolls eyes- I think it says more about them and how uncomfortable they are than it does about you.
That’s quite weird. My experience is a lot different and I’m German too! I never drank and everyone always asks me why, get all shocked and try to get me to drink. They still do now. My friends talk about wanting to get me drunk some time. And “what you’ve never been drunk?”. I got pressured to at least try alcoholic drinks many times even though I said I didn’t want to. I’ve also never been to a party where people didn’t get “absolutely pissed”. If someone only wanted to get a little drunk they always made an excuse for it at least. My brother who also doesnt drink had the same experience. But maybe it’s just different in different parts of Germany too. I also don’t know many people who drink a lot of alcohol after work though. Just the occasional “Feierabendbier”, mostly for men. But I think a lot of adults have some beer or wine with their dinner on weekends like you also said.
FeatheredF0x same experience for me, I‘m also german. I didn’t got invited to party’s during school time because of this, I know ppl who are happy for their Feierabendbier (which I think is something many just don’t talk to because it’s somewhat socially accepted) and even now most Uni party’s or friends party’s are at the purpose of getting drunk. Though I have to say that my attendance keeps them mostly not too drunk because they don’t want to worry me 😅
When she was talking about British drinking culture, I was like, I'm from Australia, you don't know a drinking culture til you've been here. And I lived in the UK for a while.
First of all: This is the best surprise combination ever! I actually met someone who also didn't drink at a party yesterday (I don't go partying often) because her stomach can't handle it. It was quite nice. I never know how to act around people that are properly hammered.
1. I love this collab! all of you are adorable, hope to see more like this! 2. Jessica sipping her diet coke throughout the entire video talking about not drinking was so sassy :) 3. Jamie is so relatable, I also just get sleepy from drinking, so I don't either.
I'm from a family of almost all non-drinkers, with just one or two in every generation that make up for the rest of us and confirm for us that we just don't want to be that. I relate to the being the only sober person at a party, it was kind of hilarious when I was at school … except for the girls asking me who they did what with the night before because they didn't remember.
@@aok3173 I think she meant like spelling-wise..like it shouldn't be called "transliness", but "transness". I know she's nerdy about pronounciation and stuff, because she's deaf.
I loved this video so much!! I hope you four do more stuff together. I always feel super self conscious and pressured about drinking and it was really lovely to see people in the same situation.
Loved hearing this ❤️ I have never been a fan of alcohol and how in Australia the culture is over drinking being normal (my partner comes from a big drinking family where his parents bought him beer and stuff at 16, the legal age being 18) I drunk a total of 3 times, hated the taste every time and hangovers screw with my depression so by 19 I decided I'd just not drink as it wasn't fun or anything Now I'm a mum I'm so shocked by wine mum culture and how I suddenly feel left out like I did when I was 19 and being one of the few sober people just without the excuse of being a designated driver
Oh man the most relatable content all the way through. Especially the part about their not being LGBTQ+ events that don't revolve around alcohol. It's so difficult to find events to meet other LGBTQ+ people as a non-drinker.
I saw the preview of this and was like WHAT THE?!!! THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME VIDEO?! YES YES YES!!! Also, in America, our drinking limit is 21+ and it's the same in social situations. (Not that underage drinking isn't a thing, it is, and has been a problem since the 1920s. 100 years later we're barely better) There are places that are not alcohol based, but those are kid friendly areas usually. Otherwise, it's very alcohol oriented. Being married into a Mexican family was an interesting take too, since my husband and his father and brothers can all drink like fish while my mother-in-law and I sit there looking at each other like "... want tiramasu?" lol
I'm so happy to hear (amazing human beings) talk about not drinking. I'm always so scared people will assume I think I'm better then they are because I don't drink (which is not true obviously). So now when I say I don't drink I mention in that same sentence 'I don't care if other people drink though'. Also, thank you for talking about how fun it can be to be the sober one in a room full of drunk people. I find it super funny and entertaining (again, in a non-judgemental way).
Aw everyone is so cute💕💕💕 I like this video I watch a lot of videos about being asked why someone doesn't drink. And like I physically can't drink for a myriad of reasons, but those are all my reasons, I don't owe them to anybody. But it's also absurd how as soon as you become an adult every social event is based around alcohol like if you just want to watch a movie or go for a walk or have a lunch there is such a deal about it not being alcohol related and idk, I hate that. It makes me sad and miss our youth when people could just have fun being around each other
Two of my favorite channels doing a collab????? Amazing. I don’t drink either, so this is such a wonderful video to see. Especially talking about the lack of sober queer spaces, which always makes me sad. Thank you for doing this, and also I love all of you so much *heart eyes*
This vid is so great and validating for me as a non-drinker living in Australia. I'm in recovery for an addiction at the moment so indulging in alcohol just seems like substitution for me. I never really needed alcohol to begin with -- I drank to fit in. So now that I am working on myself and addressing my issues, the more I feel like I don't need to drink. Plus it interferes with my medications. So refreshing to hear other young people's perspectives on not drinking and seeing it as a very valid, healthy choice for oneself.
I was hoping you would do a collaboration with Jamie and Shaaba. Yaaay! Thank you so much. Loved it. Personally I don't drink alcohol and have never even been drunk. So used to it not being an issue but an advantage as friends always have someone to drive that never complains about not being able to drink alcohol. Your parents are Scandinavian. How cool. I am Norwegian and even after living over 20 years in Germany, it's strange that McDonald's serve beer and that alcohol is sold in abundance at regular grocery stores.
It is wonderful to know my two favorite TH-cam couples together! I grew up in California in the 1970s and just didn't like alcohol, not even beer. In college and university I was usually the only person who didn't drink. I knew i wasn't spending money on that. There was also drugs, but i just didn't care. I didn't even smoke. Here i am 40 years later, and i have Type I diabetes, but if you haven't started these things by age 60, you just won't. I do like diet coke. I never felt insecure in myself, and didn't care what my "peers" thought. I was always a different and strange sort of bird, hehe.
Jessica and Claud, thanks so much for the collaboration with Jamie and Shaaba. I will definitely check their channels out. I have been on both sides of the alcohol issue. When I was younger and not on any medications, I did enjoy wine or a fruity mixed drink and did on occasion get drunk, always paying the price the morning after. Now I actually feel better not drinking. I feel that you can have a good time drinking soft drinks, my choice is Dr Pepper, juices and ice water. Although, my first choice is Coffee ☕ ☕ ☕. What a wonderful way to celebrate day 4 of Vlogmas.❄❄❄ Tricia B
I’m Dutch and have been raised with two glasses of wine with dinner and maybe one or two more when you go out, but to drink responsibly. I’ve been drunk as a teen once and hated it and I’m not a big fan of parties, so I followed my family’s habits and just drank with my meals. That’s what I did until I started on medication that I wasn’t supposed to drink with. I then realized how much I dislike the effect of alcohol. I’m on meds still, but I’d never drink alcohol again. It doesn’t make me feel good and it takes away so much productivity when you drink with a meal, then the only thing you can do afterwards is hang on the sofa. I love being alcohol free and will never go back to even light drinking if the meds would ever stop. My husband joined me and he feels the exact same. We’re happily alcohol free and we like it a lot.
Jamie saying as a sober person it's fun to watch people get drink is incredibly relatable as a recovering alcoholic - that's my favorite part of not drinking anymore. 🥂🍍
One of the most relatable videos on youtube. The culture around drinking in America is exactly the same. I have never liked alcohol, although I would have a little drink once in a blue moon. Then I realized that alcohol triggers my migraines so I won't have any at all and for some reason this is more acceptable to people than simply saying "I don't drink." Saying "I don't drink" gets me badgered, saying "I can't drink" gets me sympathy. People are great.
I got super excited to see this. I don't drink nearly as much as my peers, I drink maybe a glass of wine once every fortnight, so it is great to see others that made the choice not to drink.
I'm always happy to see people talking about not drinking. I don't know how it compares to England, but being a non-drinker in North America feels similarly alienating, so I really appreciate seeing a conversation with three other non-drinkers (and one Claudia, because she's always good in a video). I drank a bit when I turned 19 (the legal age in Canada), but by the time I was 20 I stopped pretty much permanently. I tell people it's because when I was drinking, I got drunk one time and didn't dismiss the idea of driving while impaired outright, and I don't trust myself when I've shown my judgement can get so impaired (if anyone is worrying, I didn't actually drive - I just considered it and another friend outright forbid it, something for which I am eternally grateful). While that is technically true, the fact is that for years I was worried that if I drank, I'd come out as trans while I was drunk before I was ready, so I didn't let myself drink out of fear of that. I've since come out and am living my life the way I'm most comfortable, but the not drinking has stuck, and I'm pretty content to live a life where I don't get drunk. This has been storytime with a random person in the TH-cam comments!
Oh my god!! My two favourite TH-cam couples in one room! My computer's on the blink and won't actually play the video, but when it's fixed I am DEFINITELY coming back and watching this! :D
This was so sweet! I just started on a new medication that keeps me from drinking. I'm American and it's the holidays and new years and wow are people confused by my saying "Thanks for the offer, but I don't drink." I'm also having to limit sugar and you would think that people had never heard of other beverages when I tell them XD
I lived near Birmingham for a year and there was actually a small monthly LGBTQ+ event without alcohol. It was a relaxed crafting and coffee session which took place in a lovely café. Many of the participants didn't like drinking alcohol and were really happy to have this non-alcoholic space. It was one of most comforting places I've ever been to.
Gah! This was amazing!! I want more collabs with you four!! Wow!! As to alcohol, it can be fun up to the point of being tipsy. Getting into fully drunk is unpleasant as I don’t like losing control of myself, same reason I don’t do drugs (plus the whole illegal thing). My husband and I both prefer more expensive alcohols like Irish cream, rumchata, etc that take a lot more quantity to get truly drunk vs vodka or rum that take less and are therefore cheaper. We really prefer to get tipsy together and make a fun night of it together, laughing while watching a movie and maybe getting frisky. Way more fun to do that at home together than in public.
I'm sooo happy to see you all together!! 💛 I'm definitely not used to comment at all but the subject of this video was quite interesting to me... As a brazilian I can say that alcohol is a strong presence in the day-to-day life and being someone who don't drink is always judge as religious choice! That's crazy! I do drink and I like it but when in some occasion I don't want to I'm instantly judged...
Yaaaaay! Two of my favourite wonderful, lovely, couples! I do not drink both by choice and for medical reasons and the adult peer pressure to drink is real!
This was such a lovely chat. I almost never drink as well, not strictly, it's just really bad for my stomach and I hate having an upset stomach from just a single beer.
I personally enjoy drinking with close friends I know I'm safe with but I'd never force anyone to drink. My friends who don't drink have just as much fun when we have a party, it's not all about the alcohol ❤️
Northwest US here, my friends and I often go to breweries or very casual pubs. None of us drink heavily, we generally will have one or two, maybe three if we're there a while. But I would say that's also a large part of Seattle culture, enjoying your drinks rather than slamming them down. The lack of alcohol-free events or good alcohol-free options for drinks is why I decided that when I started hosting a Deaf Queer Social in Seattle I would try to choose places that *don't* have alcohol, or at least where it's not a primary focus such as a bowling alley that happens to have some drinks. Our first event was at a coffeehouse that was open until 11 at night. We seriously need more accessible sober spaces that are open late!
used to be very dependent on alcohol to destress , but now it has become how i treat myself, going to supermarkets shopping for wines to try rather than to clubs drinking shots. i feel like it takes my guard down so i can talk abt difficult stuff, claudia’s interpretation is rather on point. a security blanket.
This is just adorable seeing some of my favorite TH-camrs together!! As far as not drinking-- I can't fathom not inviting a friend simply because they were teetotalers. In the US there are lots of folks who just don't drink-- either because they once had a problem or they just never started.
I relate SO HARD to the constantly drinking mood - I literally always try to have an emergency pack of diet coke in the car, and I'm always the friend asking if anyone needs water. (I drink like 4-6 L a day of water alone... When I went to the nutritionist she thought I'd filled out the form wrong....)
I was right, it was a great video! I also don’t drink, but luckily my uni has made an effort to have non-drinking events, and our Pride Society has more non-drinking events than drinking ones. I do get judged and excluded in general uni life for not drinking though
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"We emptied the wine bottle and filled it with water."
Ah, yes
The Inverted Jesus
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THE INVERTED JESUS
YOU MADE ME SNORT
I laughed way more than I should have bhahahaha
Drunk Claudia: GET ME WATER!
Jessica: *brings water*
Claudia: I DON'T WANT WATER! *smacks*
Jessica: *adds lime to water* Here a gin and tonic.
Claudia: oh okay
This is so innovative. I've got to try this with drunk friends.
Thats love right there.
Only if you know they like gin and tonics though. I do love to drink on occasion, but if you'd ever handed me a "gin and tonic" before like 2 weeks ago, I'd have said "ew no." and gone back to whatever, lol.
I've got a friend who always sets up a full bar and bartends for every house party, and over new years we came up with my new favorite drink, the Respect Women Juice. You fill a pint glass up with water and then bomb a shot glass of lacroix in and everyone stands around shouting "CHUG CHUG CHUG" which we definitely used to convince some very drunk people to get some water in.
JAMIE, SHAABA, JESSIE *AND* CLAUDIA???? IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
M Y D R E A M C O M E 'S T R U E ! ! !
My fave collab ever!!!
HOW DID THEY K N O W ??
@@raventrunite6459 i don't know but Jessica has made all my other dreams come true so 🤷♀️
so happy! :'))))
I love how everyone is dressed normally and then Jessica looks like a princess.
That's because she is
she's so glamourous
And my sleep-deprived brain keeping thinking Jessica is drinking alcohol in the vid even though they've stated very early in and it's visually obvious that it's Diet Coke.
I like how Jessica’s dress is taking over everyone else’s laps!
Plus a gold crown in a pear tree!
This was such a fun chat! Always lovely to see you both
My friends son has just come out as trans (ftm) and your channel has been ace at helping me "get it" a bit more - I've always been happy for anyone to be whatever gender makes then happiest, but there's so many things I've never thought of before and you've made me much more aware :D
Thanks for sharing your story Jamie 💛
Love your channel, so cool to see this collab!
Didnt expect that collab! But its the best! I love both yoir channels, but I never thought there was so much overlap in your audiences, but according to the comments so many people watch both channels.
I don’t know if this is rude but I had no idea you were trans ❤️
I don’t know if you have specific pronouns or what to address you as but I totally know you are male.
*this is meant to be a compliment so I really hope it gets taken that way
I hope it's known that I shrieked slightly and flapped my hands when I read "Jamie & Shaaba" and pointed at the screen excitedly
Hard same. 😄
haha same
OMG SAME!!
How did I ot know about them! 🤩 excited about new awesome youtubers
ME TOO
"I can act stupid without drinking" 😂
That is the story of my life!!
That’s what I say! I’m not teetotal but i dislike most alcohol and have never been drunk or even tipsy
yeah that's just my personality😂
This is two of my favourite TH-cam couples in one video! Christmas has come early!
Also Jessica looks radiant ❤
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@@alexandrabrandt8520 SAMESAME, just came down to comment the exact same thing. ........
Do you think we all have good taste or just all need to get out more......
🤩🤩🤩 💯💯💯
WOOHOO
I love that everyone is in super casual clothes and then there’s Jessica in a full on ball gown😂 I hope that’s me in the future
Do it! :)
Love this! I have generations of addiction from both my parents so I dont drink because of that (and also it doesn't taste good at all) and people are always so confused or try to push drinks onto me. I really wish there were more non-alcoholic lgbtq events/gatherings/etc, lowkey my dream is to open a lgbtq cafe
Do it! I'm there for the grand opening :)
PLEASE DO OPEN ONE it'd be so good for non-drinkers and younger/older people as well!
That’s such a great idea 🥰
I also don't drink due to rampant alcoholism on both sides of my family. And yes, it tastes ICKY - and when you factor in that alcohol is a waste product of sugar-eating bacteria, the realization of drinking literal pee just puts the cherry on the cake for me.
Consider: lgbtq+ cafe /and library/
I just love that Jessica is literally a princess
Queen!! 👸😍
Jessica deserves to wear that tiara because she’s obviously the queen of Vlogmas 💁🏻♀️♥️
Name buddy?
I have a friend who just never really started drinking and she gets more stupid then those of us who drink. She just sucks up the energy in the room and gets what we call “drunk by proxy.”
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I'm in my teenage years and so many people are so shocked when I say I don't drink. It's definitely a big thing in the UK I think.
I agree with Jamie that being the only sober person in the room can be entertaining
Fernsby Fox - or it can be incredibly boring. Drunks aren’t as entertaining as they think they are.
@@TheSuzberry Yeah I totally agree! I find that it's usually entertaining when people are tipsy or verging into drunk but usually boring once they have all gone into the completely drunk stage. The noise is not fun either 😂
Lol, try Germany, where you're basically considered a heathen if you don't drink their beloved beer xD
@@faolair3320 Oh dear I can imagine! I have German heritage but no family in Germany so I escaped that
I actually didn't drink until I was 18 when I found stuff I actually liked 😂 but even now I don't drink regularly...
THESE ARE LITERALLY MY TWO FAVOURITE CHANNELS AND ITS JUST AS WHOLESOME AS I IMAGINED
I love Claudia’s lower-octave impression of Jessica 😋
Thanks for having us! Loving the vlogmas series so far 🎄 💛
Shaaba. I love these collabs. Somebody needs to put a playlist together of all of them and post it on all the channels involved.
I'm Finnish and I don't drink alcohol OR coffee which causes some awkward situations at parties and family gatherings 😅 But even though Finns are stereotypically heavy drinkers, my generation (people in their twenties and younger) are actually increasingly more sober, so even as a college student I've never felt unwelcomed or out of place at events because usually there are other non-drinkers as well and nobody has ever said anything bad about me not wanting to get drunk or not consuming alcohol. Also I 100% agree on the saving money part, it's kind of ridiculous how much money one can put into alcoholic drinks and luckily I've never had to worry about that.
Also a Finn, and I drink only very occasionally and never to get drunk. First year in university the general events and parties were alcohol-heavy and I didn't quite feel I belonged. But I found my people in more ways than one from the university anime and manga club. Nobody drinks in the weekly meetings and parties never center around alcohol, as many do not drink at all. But drinking isn't judged, even though some people have felt hesitant to bring alcohol since they haven't seen anyone else drink :P
And I think what you say about changing culture is true.
I'm the same! Can't go anywhere without being offered coffee... luckily I learnt to drink tea and that's usually an option. The alcohol is a bigger issue for me, I had to stop due to addiction. And it's impossible to get away from alcohol here, I can't remember the last time I hung out with my friends with everyone sober. And no one in Finland wants to admit that the drinking is a problem.
Are you Mormon? Haha just asking because I am and I also don’t drink alcohol or coffee.
@@katecarroll5108 No, I'm not Mormon. I just don't like the taste of coffee 😅
I'm Russian. It's confusing to people
the collab we’ve all been waiting for
Literally made a little squeak noise when I saw the video preview.
Oh my god is this a collab I never thought I would see but I am so glad it's here!
I live in Wales and oh my god does everyone drink. I think if some people had the money they would literally drink every night. Me on the other hand, I literally do not care, I will drink on special occasions or if (like Shaaba) the drink is one of my favourite flavours. I can't drink things that taste like alcohol so I normally go for simple drinks that taste like fruit or Dr. Pepper.
I have a work Christmas party on Friday and we are going to see a Queen cover band and I am looking forward to it but I know I will be a lot soberer than everyone else in the room.
Same for me with my friends.
Almost everyone I know (of my age) drinks a lot. And then there's me.
Oh my goodness! I’m going to send the links of both Jamie & Shaaba to a very close friend of mine. (No worries Jessica, I sent them to your channel immediately so they could find links to other LGBTQ+ creators) She was married 3 years ago & her husband had expressed that he had a propensity towards cosmetics, women’s clothing, etc. (Changing pronouns now FYI). They slowly started to come out, & then; they were 'suddenly' let go from their job (for insufficient work, which was quite odd since they had recently been promoted 🤔). After that, they went full on in activities, clothing, grew a beard, ANYTHING to appear more manly since they knew that the field they worked in would be completely intolerant towards them. My friend had a very hard time at first, however; she knew that the heart & soul of her spouse had not changed & she supports them 100%. They started going to therapy & she also realized she had never been attracted towards a "manly man" & is also exploring her sexuality! So they are both going through very big changes at the same time! Her spouse is on hormone therapy, has had electrolysis on their face & was just accepted to a very high end cosmology school!🥳 I’m rambling all of this because I’m sure they both will learn a lot from Jamie & Shaaba just as they have from other collabs Jessica has done with Ash Hardell, Stevie Bobbie plus Jessica& Claudia themselves of course! Thank you for being brave enough to put out content! It helps not only people in the LGBTQ+ community, but also others like me who are straight, yet we love our friends & want to support them in the "proper way"! Thanks to Jessica’s videos on “What NOT To Say & What TO Say to a LGBTQ+ Person", I was able to ask questions in a proper way. So again, thank you ALL for being awesome people & for educating anyone who is trying to learn. Much love & many hugs to you all🤗💜🦋😘🐾🐾(kisses for Walter & Tilly)!
Fun fact! The “8 glasses of water a day” was supposed to include water you get from food and other liquids! So you don’t need to force yourself to drink 8 glasses of water a day unless you are on a dehydrating medication or have a condition.
This is honestly the best crossover. You 4 won the internet and 2019
If I like the music, I'll be dancing on the tables anyway -- I don't drink b/c I grew up with an abusive alcoholic -- aaand people don't want to hear that - (and I don't like the taste either) - A friend & myself have not been invited w/other friends at times b/c we don't drink - Thank y'all for covering this subject - Love all y'all! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I’m nineteen and don’t drink. It’s just not for me, plus being in hc makes it so much ickier - alcohol is fucking terrible for your body, and it just makes it not fun for me to drink it - but I never went to any parties really in high school because I was literally the only person in my entire school who didn’t drink. It’s very excluding. And also, when I do attend things with just family etc they pressure me into drinking a lot. I don’t understand why : /
As someone who isn't really into alcohol and is a first year gay uni student (the time of peoples lives where everyone is super obsessed with being either drunk or high every weekend) its really nice to see two youtubers that I respect a lot be unapologetic about this topic. I stay away from peer pressure but its hard to not feel like your somehow wrong for not wanting to do what others are doing or that your being unfriendly/bad. People always get kinda weird around me when I tell them I don't drink just because I don't want to. This video is really important!
First of all: I love the collab!
As for the topic: As a German, I was actually quite disturbed by British drinking culture when I studied in the UK. Don’t get me wrong, Germans love their alcohol and the legal drinking age for beer and wine is 16 (and we will still start before that😅) but still most Germans drink a lot more regulated than the British. Like, in the UK, my experience was that most parties/outings sole purpose seems to be getting drunk? And there’s no spectrum, there’s just ‘sober’ or ‘absolutely pissed’. In Germany people of course do drink at parties but not with the sole purpose of ending up drunk. Sometimes it’ll end there, but ‘partying’ isn’t synonymous with ‘getting pissed’.
Also working adults I think drink a whole lot less than in the UK. So the concept of after-work drinks doesn’t exist, for example, and over all I’d say most people only ‘regularly’ drink on weekends (or another specific day of the week they might regularly go out with friends). Besides that it’s an occasional glass of wine/ beer with dinner or in front of the TV. Overall drinking or not drinking just isn’t that big a of a part of people’s lives and no one cares if you do or don’t. I know loads of people (of all ages) who don’t drink and no one cares.
I personally probably drank most before I was legally allowed to (I don’t like beer and wine, so hard liquor it was) and after that I just kind of- stopped. Talk about the forbidden things being the most alluring 😅 I was always a year younger than my friends, so the year all of them turned 18 and had parties with unlimited supply of free alcohol was probably my roughest year. Later I went on medication and didn’t drink at all for 2 years straight. Now I have the occasional drink when I feel like it. Alcohol or no alcohol, It’s just- not a big deal.
I'm German and currently at Uni in the UK and I 100% agree with you, the drinking culture here is one of the things that annoy me most about the UK and I was quite shocked how different it is to Germany even though we have a reputation for drinking.
@@svenjavorthmsv3676 Agreed; I'm Canadian, and the entire time I was in the UK, despite telling people I don't drink, full on adults were shoving lukewarm beers into my hand and acting offended when I bird-chirped them. It's ridiculous. I'm not adverse to nursing a drink for the night, but it's like if you don't get full-on sloshed, you're a loser. -rolls eyes- I think it says more about them and how uncomfortable they are than it does about you.
Yeah, I‘m German and went to boarding school in the UK and felt the same.
That’s quite weird. My experience is a lot different and I’m German too! I never drank and everyone always asks me why, get all shocked and try to get me to drink. They still do now. My friends talk about wanting to get me drunk some time. And “what you’ve never been drunk?”. I got pressured to at least try alcoholic drinks many times even though I said I didn’t want to. I’ve also never been to a party where people didn’t get “absolutely pissed”. If someone only wanted to get a little drunk they always made an excuse for it at least.
My brother who also doesnt drink had the same experience.
But maybe it’s just different in different parts of Germany too.
I also don’t know many people who drink a lot of alcohol after work though. Just the occasional “Feierabendbier”, mostly for men. But I think a lot of adults have some beer or wine with their dinner on weekends like you also said.
FeatheredF0x same experience for me, I‘m also german. I didn’t got invited to party’s during school time because of this, I know ppl who are happy for their Feierabendbier (which I think is something many just don’t talk to because it’s somewhat socially accepted) and even now most Uni party’s or friends party’s are at the purpose of getting drunk. Though I have to say that my attendance keeps them mostly not too drunk because they don’t want to worry me 😅
When she was talking about British drinking culture, I was like, I'm from Australia, you don't know a drinking culture til you've been here. And I lived in the UK for a while.
I can't believe it! My favourite two couples on TH-cam are collabing! I just had to click right away
Can you do another Collab with them where you dress them vintage? I think they’d look so dapper!
No other crossover in the past two decades has even come close to having a fraction of the impact on the cultural zeitgeist as this one video.
Omggggg!!!! I didn't even know I wanted this colab!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Just a room BURSTING with absolutely fabulous people 👨🎤❤️💎
With these two couples in a room, talk about making the Yueltide GAY! Ah, so blessed this holiday season.
The collab I didnt know I needed but needed so much
First of all: This is the best surprise combination ever! I actually met someone who also didn't drink at a party yesterday (I don't go partying often) because her stomach can't handle it. It was quite nice. I never know how to act around people that are properly hammered.
1. I love this collab! all of you are adorable, hope to see more like this!
2. Jessica sipping her diet coke throughout the entire video talking about not drinking was so sassy :)
3. Jamie is so relatable, I also just get sleepy from drinking, so I don't either.
all my favorite lovely people? THIS. IS. A. GIFT.
I'm from a family of almost all non-drinkers, with just one or two in every generation that make up for the rest of us and confirm for us that we just don't want to be that. I relate to the being the only sober person at a party, it was kind of hilarious when I was at school … except for the girls asking me who they did what with the night before because they didn't remember.
Let's make transliness a Thing™
For example, my 3/4 trans apartment radiates transliness
That's pretty transly!
I HATE that they quickly dismissed this idea! Seemed so rude.
@@aok3173 I think she meant like spelling-wise..like it shouldn't be called "transliness", but "transness". I know she's nerdy about pronounciation and stuff, because she's deaf.
@@misskelevra didn't think of that, you could be right.
@misskelevra. That’s what I thought too.
I loved this video so much!! I hope you four do more stuff together. I always feel super self conscious and pressured about drinking and it was really lovely to see people in the same situation.
I can't drink because of medical reasons so, I really relate to this. Thanks so much for making this video xxx
waiT JESSICA & CLAUDIA *_AND_* JAMIE & SHAABA?
omg yes
Loved hearing this ❤️ I have never been a fan of alcohol and how in Australia the culture is over drinking being normal (my partner comes from a big drinking family where his parents bought him beer and stuff at 16, the legal age being 18) I drunk a total of 3 times, hated the taste every time and hangovers screw with my depression so by 19 I decided I'd just not drink as it wasn't fun or anything
Now I'm a mum I'm so shocked by wine mum culture and how I suddenly feel left out like I did when I was 19 and being one of the few sober people just without the excuse of being a designated driver
Yeah, wine mum culture kind of scares me
Oh man the most relatable content all the way through. Especially the part about their not being LGBTQ+ events that don't revolve around alcohol. It's so difficult to find events to meet other LGBTQ+ people as a non-drinker.
I saw the preview of this and was like WHAT THE?!!! THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME VIDEO?! YES YES YES!!!
Also, in America, our drinking limit is 21+ and it's the same in social situations. (Not that underage drinking isn't a thing, it is, and has been a problem since the 1920s. 100 years later we're barely better) There are places that are not alcohol based, but those are kid friendly areas usually. Otherwise, it's very alcohol oriented. Being married into a Mexican family was an interesting take too, since my husband and his father and brothers can all drink like fish while my mother-in-law and I sit there looking at each other like "... want tiramasu?" lol
I'm so happy to hear (amazing human beings) talk about not drinking. I'm always so scared people will assume I think I'm better then they are because I don't drink (which is not true obviously). So now when I say I don't drink I mention in that same sentence 'I don't care if other people drink though'. Also, thank you for talking about how fun it can be to be the sober one in a room full of drunk people. I find it super funny and entertaining (again, in a non-judgemental way).
Aw everyone is so cute💕💕💕 I like this video
I watch a lot of videos about being asked why someone doesn't drink. And like I physically can't drink for a myriad of reasons, but those are all my reasons, I don't owe them to anybody. But it's also absurd how as soon as you become an adult every social event is based around alcohol like if you just want to watch a movie or go for a walk or have a lunch there is such a deal about it not being alcohol related and idk, I hate that. It makes me sad and miss our youth when people could just have fun being around each other
Two of my favorite channels doing a collab????? Amazing.
I don’t drink either, so this is such a wonderful video to see. Especially talking about the lack of sober queer spaces, which always makes me sad. Thank you for doing this, and also I love all of you so much *heart eyes*
This vid is so great and validating for me as a non-drinker living in Australia. I'm in recovery for an addiction at the moment so indulging in alcohol just seems like substitution for me. I never really needed alcohol to begin with -- I drank to fit in. So now that I am working on myself and addressing my issues, the more I feel like I don't need to drink. Plus it interferes with my medications. So refreshing to hear other young people's perspectives on not drinking and seeing it as a very valid, healthy choice for oneself.
I was hoping you would do a collaboration with Jamie and Shaaba. Yaaay! Thank you so much. Loved it.
Personally I don't drink alcohol and have never even been drunk. So used to it not being an issue but an advantage as friends always have someone to drive that never complains about not being able to drink alcohol.
Your parents are Scandinavian. How cool. I am Norwegian and even after living over 20 years in Germany, it's strange that McDonald's serve beer and that alcohol is sold in abundance at regular grocery stores.
I literally squealed 'oh my god' when I saw who you were doing the collab with!! I'm so happy ☺️
A collab between my favourite youtubers! This made my day
Also, that blooper snippet at the end - you all four are utterly heartwarming. Thank you for being you!
It is wonderful to know my two favorite TH-cam couples together!
I grew up in California in the 1970s and just didn't like alcohol, not even beer. In college and university I was usually the only person who didn't drink. I knew i wasn't spending money on that. There was also drugs, but i just didn't care. I didn't even smoke.
Here i am 40 years later, and i have Type I diabetes, but if you haven't started these things by age 60, you just won't. I do like diet coke. I never felt insecure in myself, and didn't care what my "peers" thought. I was always a different and strange sort of bird, hehe.
Jessica, Claudia, Shaaba and Jamie!!!!! This is amazing!
*happy flail* four of my favorite people on TH-cam!!! Oh this is amazing!!! So much love!!!
AMAZING. Can’t believe you all each enjoy each other’s content. Nice surprise. Thank you all for taking the time to film this.
My faves in one video talking about not drinking I feel blessed!
My faves in the same video OMG and talking about not drinking
Jessica and Claud, thanks so much for the collaboration with Jamie and Shaaba. I will definitely check their channels out. I have been on both sides of the alcohol issue. When I was younger and not on any medications, I did enjoy wine or a fruity mixed drink and did on occasion get drunk, always paying the price the morning after. Now I actually feel better not drinking. I feel that you can have a good time drinking soft drinks, my choice is Dr Pepper, juices and ice water. Although, my first choice is Coffee ☕ ☕ ☕. What a wonderful way to celebrate day 4 of Vlogmas.❄❄❄
Tricia B
I’m Dutch and have been raised with two glasses of wine with dinner and maybe one or two more when you go out, but to drink responsibly. I’ve been drunk as a teen once and hated it and I’m not a big fan of parties, so I followed my family’s habits and just drank with my meals. That’s what I did until I started on medication that I wasn’t supposed to drink with. I then realized how much I dislike the effect of alcohol. I’m on meds still, but I’d never drink alcohol again. It doesn’t make me feel good and it takes away so much productivity when you drink with a meal, then the only thing you can do afterwards is hang on the sofa. I love being alcohol free and will never go back to even light drinking if the meds would ever stop. My husband joined me and he feels the exact same. We’re happily alcohol free and we like it a lot.
Jamie saying as a sober person it's fun to watch people get drink is incredibly relatable as a recovering alcoholic - that's my favorite part of not drinking anymore. 🥂🍍
One of the most relatable videos on youtube. The culture around drinking in America is exactly the same. I have never liked alcohol, although I would have a little drink once in a blue moon. Then I realized that alcohol triggers my migraines so I won't have any at all and for some reason this is more acceptable to people than simply saying "I don't drink." Saying "I don't drink" gets me badgered, saying "I can't drink" gets me sympathy. People are great.
This is the Collab dreams are made of ❤️
Jess you're a stunning princess
I got super excited to see this. I don't drink nearly as much as my peers, I drink maybe a glass of wine once every fortnight, so it is great to see others that made the choice not to drink.
I'm always happy to see people talking about not drinking. I don't know how it compares to England, but being a non-drinker in North America feels similarly alienating, so I really appreciate seeing a conversation with three other non-drinkers (and one Claudia, because she's always good in a video). I drank a bit when I turned 19 (the legal age in Canada), but by the time I was 20 I stopped pretty much permanently. I tell people it's because when I was drinking, I got drunk one time and didn't dismiss the idea of driving while impaired outright, and I don't trust myself when I've shown my judgement can get so impaired (if anyone is worrying, I didn't actually drive - I just considered it and another friend outright forbid it, something for which I am eternally grateful). While that is technically true, the fact is that for years I was worried that if I drank, I'd come out as trans while I was drunk before I was ready, so I didn't let myself drink out of fear of that. I've since come out and am living my life the way I'm most comfortable, but the not drinking has stuck, and I'm pretty content to live a life where I don't get drunk.
This has been storytime with a random person in the TH-cam comments!
I opened the notice and squealed! Jessica, Claudia, Jamie and Shaaba all together? Yay!
Ugh I love you and Claudia and to see you two with Jamie and Shaaba is delightful!
I clicked on this video so quickly I’m so excited I know it’s going to be good because it’s 4 of my favourite people in one video!
Literal scream when i saw this notification!
I like how they all have their own uniquely fabulous style
Oh my god!! My two favourite TH-cam couples in one room! My computer's on the blink and won't actually play the video, but when it's fixed I am DEFINITELY coming back and watching this! :D
The two cutest online couples, this is heaven.
Jamie: "Being the only sober one in a room can be quite entertaining" -- The story of my LIFE. And so, SO true. :)
This was so sweet! I just started on a new medication that keeps me from drinking. I'm American and it's the holidays and new years and wow are people confused by my saying "Thanks for the offer, but I don't drink." I'm also having to limit sugar and you would think that people had never heard of other beverages when I tell them XD
I lived near Birmingham for a year and there was actually a small monthly LGBTQ+ event without alcohol. It was a relaxed crafting and coffee session which took place in a lovely café. Many of the participants didn't like drinking alcohol and were really happy to have this non-alcoholic space. It was one of most comforting places I've ever been to.
Gah! This was amazing!! I want more collabs with you four!! Wow!!
As to alcohol, it can be fun up to the point of being tipsy. Getting into fully drunk is unpleasant as I don’t like losing control of myself, same reason I don’t do drugs (plus the whole illegal thing). My husband and I both prefer more expensive alcohols like Irish cream, rumchata, etc that take a lot more quantity to get truly drunk vs vodka or rum that take less and are therefore cheaper. We really prefer to get tipsy together and make a fun night of it together, laughing while watching a movie and maybe getting frisky. Way more fun to do that at home together than in public.
I'm sooo happy to see you all together!! 💛 I'm definitely not used to comment at all but the subject of this video was quite interesting to me... As a brazilian I can say that alcohol is a strong presence in the day-to-day life and being someone who don't drink is always judge as religious choice! That's crazy!
I do drink and I like it but when in some occasion I don't want to I'm instantly judged...
Take a shot every time Claudia says 'Like'.
I don't drink either ♥ Sober since I was born in 93.
THIS IS A BLESSED COLAB. i love all four of them.
I think I've been waiting this collab forever 💖💖💖
Omg 4 of my favorite youtubers in one vid!
Came here after watching Jamies video. I hope they do more collabs in the future.
Yaaaaay! Two of my favourite wonderful, lovely, couples! I do not drink both by choice and for medical reasons and the adult peer pressure to drink is real!
This was such a lovely chat. I almost never drink as well, not strictly, it's just really bad for my stomach and I hate having an upset stomach from just a single beer.
I love that she wear these elegant dresses just because she wants too
I personally enjoy drinking with close friends I know I'm safe with but I'd never force anyone to drink. My friends who don't drink have just as much fun when we have a party, it's not all about the alcohol ❤️
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! This is this colab I never knew I needed!!!!
Northwest US here, my friends and I often go to breweries or very casual pubs. None of us drink heavily, we generally will have one or two, maybe three if we're there a while. But I would say that's also a large part of Seattle culture, enjoying your drinks rather than slamming them down.
The lack of alcohol-free events or good alcohol-free options for drinks is why I decided that when I started hosting a Deaf Queer Social in Seattle I would try to choose places that *don't* have alcohol, or at least where it's not a primary focus such as a bowling alley that happens to have some drinks. Our first event was at a coffeehouse that was open until 11 at night. We seriously need more accessible sober spaces that are open late!
My two favorite lgbt couples together in one room? What?! I love it.
I'm so very thankful for friends and family who don't make it weird when I'm not drinking even at a bar ❤
used to be very dependent on alcohol to destress , but now it has become how i treat myself, going to supermarkets shopping for wines to try rather than to clubs drinking shots. i feel like it takes my guard down so i can talk abt difficult stuff, claudia’s interpretation is rather on point. a security blanket.
I love your vlogmas videos and i allways watch your old vlogmas videos.
This is just adorable seeing some of my favorite TH-camrs together!! As far as not drinking-- I can't fathom not inviting a friend simply because they were teetotalers. In the US there are lots of folks who just don't drink-- either because they once had a problem or they just never started.
A collab I never thought would happen for a reason I never would have expected.
I love it.
My favorite british people in the same room! So unexpected and so heart-warming!
Yay! Vlogmas is back!
EDIT : OMG JAMMIDODGER AHH
Another reason why Christmas is my fav!
I relate SO HARD to the constantly drinking mood - I literally always try to have an emergency pack of diet coke in the car, and I'm always the friend asking if anyone needs water.
(I drink like 4-6 L a day of water alone... When I went to the nutritionist she thought I'd filled out the form wrong....)
This is the collab I didn't know I needed! So great to see channels I love collabing.
I was right, it was a great video! I also don’t drink, but luckily my uni has made an effort to have non-drinking events, and our Pride Society has more non-drinking events than drinking ones. I do get judged and excluded in general uni life for not drinking though