I really enjoyed this. I follow both Jessica and Jamie's channels. I am married to a Thai/Mon man who is dark skinned. My husband has experienced racism for being in a mixed race couple in both countries. When it happened in Thailand it really shocked me. I presumed it would be aimed at me as the foreign partner. We have 3 children together and my youngest has dark skin and tight curls. In Thailand we noticed that she was not as favoured as my eldest most white British looking boy. Also she struggles to relate to either culture and is more attracted to black children with tight curls. In particular in books and when we are out and about she will say "look mummy they look like me". Race, culture and background are such important aspects of peoples perceptions of themselves. It is sad and frustrating to witness racism to people you love but she has a strong sense of self and I hope she will be able to hold on to the things that make her special and unique ❤ Brilliant video Shaaba...subscribe
I'm really surprised there wasn't an interpreter! I'm watching Jessica lip read through the door. It's a lot going on and I've got that same look on my face when I'm concentrating.
@@laneadams1303 SUPER skilled. I couldn't do it. You have to read on both sides and through a plate of glass... Me in Jessica's place I'd just be smiling in confusion in my wife's lap. That's ok I'm cute.
Really forgot Jamie was trans for a second there when Claudia said he’d still experienced discrimination and thought ‘he can’t have had it that bad for being Scottish’ 🤦♂️
@@tatianaleutwiler1867 Reminds me to a situation during a "Critical Whiteness" workshop when we talked about privilege and one guy share his experience of discrimination because he was gay. Intersectionality. It's a thing. ^ ^
@@johannageisel5390 Definitely. I've been following Jamie for a long time now and I guess him being trans has become just a minor information about him in my mind, so for a second there I forgot. 😂
"Our babies are gonna hang out together" Ok, I'd like to officially change my opinion about family vlogs, I now love them and need them and please give them to meeee
@@ashergrey9468 children cannot legally consent to their images, names or personal details being shared on the internet. Therefore, family vlogs are in principle not a good idea. I'm not saying it's always a bad thing, but there are certainly families who exploit their children for views by filming their most vulnerable and private moments for monetisation. That's the simple truth.
the way i cackled! at first i was like hmmm half and half what? then i started reading and brain just auto filled... this was great, thank you for bring me joy :))
This video is the proof of "it's not forced diversity, people just exists" and I love it (This is in relation to characters being of "too many" minority/descriminated groups, or having "too many" not the default white cishet able-bodied christian male in a group of characters)
"Forced diversity" is a term used when some people assume white is "normal" and every other person is "political". It's a term that says a lot about the people who use it unironically and actually believe it's a thing tbh, just like people who use the term "politically correct" instead of inclusive/non-violent/non-marginalising/non-problematic/non-dated language. Hearing people use that term is a red flag - in my experience either they subscribe to problematic beliefs or they have been taken in by dog whistle terms because they are not informed about the actual harm and systemic inequality perpetuated by those beliefs in the first place and have been fooled by the language of bigots framing violence and harm as the victim being "offended".
@@curiousnerdkitteh this is a really narrow minded view...there is definitely nuance here. As a black woman I’ve definitely seen shows where the diversity felt forced as in there’s just a token black character who doesn’t have much of a personality outside of saying stereotypical things like “my man” or “now that’s what I’m talkin about”. I also think the term politically correct can apply to certain things. Sometimes it’s just proper representation or people refusing to accept racism and doing something about it...and other times it’s something silly like “well you can’t use the word black to refer to black people, African American is more polite”. I think it’s disturbing that both sides of this argument refuse to apply any nuance to these situations. Diversity and representation are great things of course, but sometimes it does feel forced or like a way to virtue signal when the person creating the content doesn’t actually know any people of color nor have they spoken to or consulted with them when creating POC characters who then up being caricatures of real people. Again, nuance is a great thing that I think a lot of people have completely abandoned these days.
I spent a while wondering if the door was one door or if it was an optical illusion and both sides of the screen were different rooms entirely. Thought it was a very well edited zoom call. 😂
I really felt that bit when Claud said that even if her kids turned out blonde and blue-eyed, they'd still have Chinese middle names. I'm blonde and blue-eyed, but my dad is Inuit and all his kids have Inuit names or nicknames, regardless of being lighter than some others. What gets interesting is when people see me practicing Inuit customs, and call appropriation on me because of my skin colour. Which is good, I suppose, being willing to call people out for bad behaviour, but it's alright, people, its my heritage, so these practices are mine to do and enjoy. It also makes me more aware of the way I am privileged because of my skin colour, because even some of my siblings are on the receiving end of racist comments or actions, even though we share the same DNA. It's disgusting, frankly.
slightly off topic but appropriation definitely doesn't exist. it's purely an american concept. Japanese people who work in kimono shops in Japan would love to see you in one, even if someone's white.
Participating in cultural traditions is not even cultural appropriation. Its nice that you are so kind about it but I also have a mixed heritage while not looking like one of them. It is very annoying to have to justify my culture to some clueless people who feel entitled to police me. You can not look at someone and instantly what their culture is and people who shout "cultural approriation" SHOULD know better than to make those kinds of assumptions. Cultural appropriation is a thing that happens in the world, and likely will always happen. We are all influenced by each other. Cultural appropriation is only a problem when a certain community is exploited as a result of it.
I never understood this concept. What’s wrong with someone wanting to share certain traditions? If someone’s interested in learning about and participating in cultural traditions that are not from their culture; why hate these people for accepting a world beyond their own?
@@colorbar.s im just curious about your opinion on this, but what about japanese diaspora? someone japanese living in a predominately white area, could experience discrimination in a different way? ive seen people talk about being bullied for wearing traditional clothing, and then seeing those bullies wear it as a trend? idk i think theres some grey area especially when it comes to diaspora
We had a girl at school who was blonde haired blue eyes who was fluent in Mandarin as a kid because her granddad was Chinese. Apparently it led to a lot of accidental eavesdropping!
Omg so glad to see some others here who struggle because of archaic expectations of what one should look like because of their racial background. As a biracial latine kid who came out lighter skinned than both of her parents because of that one grandparent, I appreciate conversations like this one.
Same here - I'm half burmese half irish, and I look 'ethnically ambiguous' but where they were speaking about feeling out of place with either side, or issues with languages - that hit hard.
I belong to minor community in Hindus, where almost everyone has blue or green eyes and peaches and cream skin. Unfortunately me and my sister got brown skin and dark brown eyes like father. All my cousins from mum's side look like British.
My notifications suck. I didn't get EITHER notification. Jessica's showed up on my home page and this was recommended while I was watching it in the videos below.
Not related to the content itself but my 4 year old comes up to me watching this and points at you and Jamie and goes “IT’S A MUMMY AND A DADDY” and then points and Jessica and Claudia and goes “AND TWO MUMMIES!” She was very excited about it lol and then watched the rest of the video with me
so cute 😭 the 4 year old i nanny had a pretty long phase a couple years ago where she'd call any woman a mom, every man a dad, and every kid a baby (including the older kids lol). we'd be out getting muffins or something and a lady would walk by and she'd yell "A MOMMY"
Straight people will literally ask any lesbian couple if they’re sisters no matter how different they look. Because apparently it’s impossible for two women to be together 🙄. It makes for some funny stories though 😂
@Jackie Zhang I’m not saying it’s rude, I’m saying other people might think it’s possibly rude. I mean, when I see a couple of people together and I need to find out how they are here together, it is kind of awkward figuring out how to ask if they are siblings, friends, etc. Typically for myself, I just ask who’s your friend? But you know how it is, social gatherings, sometimes your foot goes in your mouth and you don’t always think to say that. I know, for instance, sometimes people see me with my sister and, knowing she’s gay and has a girlfriend, assume I am that girlfriend and that’s a little awkward because, I mean, she’s my sister 😂 Basically what I’m saying is I don’t think there’s always bad intent. I do think we need to stop being offended if somebody asks if we’re gay or see something that makes them assume we are. You’re right, it’s nothing to be offended by and a simple correction is all it takes
It also is a strange question to ask at all. I have never been asked if I was sisters with my actual sister. I feel like I'm general, people only ask if either there genuinely is a striking similarity between two women, or they realize the women are together and feel uncomfortable with that realization.
@@tesstucker3311 Personally having a sibling that was assumed to be a couple was hilarious. I'm guessing being a couple mistaken for siblings wouldn't be so fun.
@@leonpage3585 coming from my pov as a gay woman with a twin sister, you get those questions all the damn time. I of course get questions about being a twin when I’m with my sister, and my gf and I have still gotten asked about it even though we’re quite dissimilar. It’s only when we’re all together and I clearly have someone else with the same face in the vicinity that my gf and I don’t get confused as sisters. (Even then someone asked once, very dubiously like in the middle of asking they realized how silly it was.) I have big curly brown hair, a small nose, and flatter features, and my gf has wavy black hair, an above average nose, and sharp features. I’m a bean pole and and she’s got curves. The only thing remotely similar about us is our skin tone, and even then she’s covered in freckles while I’m not. So i daresay those questions often come from a non-judgmental but ingrained idea of heteronormativity. The default to assume people are hetero is so basic that two women being very touchy feely and close with each other are more readily assumed to be related than being romantically involved.
I'm an Indian-Canadian (as in I was born in Canada but am 100% ethnically Indian) and am also lgbt and this was a very interesting discussion for me to hear! Love it when you collab lol Jessica and Claudia's vibe and your vibe mesh so well together. Big dorky parental energy, super interesting ppl
@@shramanadasdutta3006 I'm completely Indian and LGBT. And half my friends are also completely Indian and LGBT + too. You just don't see us coming out in daily life cause the society sucks but a large population of Indians are LGBTQ+. Just saying. You don't have to act like you saw a 3 headed snake.
My husband and I were really surprised by how our daughters turned out (as far as looks). I'm African American and he is very white (blue eyes, blonde hair as a kid that turned brown as he got older). Our oldest daughter looks EXACTLY like him! lol Light brown hair with the slightest hint of a curl. Eyes that usually look grey, but can be blue or green depending on the day. Pale skin that pinks very easily. She got my full lips and small ears and that's it. Our second kid, on the other hand, is ALL me! Afro-curly hair, dark brown eyes, though light-skinned in the way you'd usually think a "mixed baby" would be. Funny enough, she got my husband's thin lips and big ears. Genetics are weird! haha On a serious note, I am a little worried for when they get older because my oldest gets a lot of attention for being beautiful, specifically for her grey eyes (she's only 6, but people have been commenting on it since she was a baby). The same attention is not given to my youngest, even though she's just as beautiful. My husband and I have been doing what we can to ensure they both grow up knowing their value is not based upon their looks. Hopefully the fact that they look so different at first glance, and people's different reactions to them, won't effect their relationship as they grow. It's something my husband and I talk about a lot.
As a half Cuban half white person that doesn't "look Cuban," I really appreciated this video, especially what Claudia was saying about not quite fitting in because she can't speak her mother's language. Love you guys and the awesome content you make!
@@ambergardener9114 omg I LOVE that show!! I'm terrible at keeping up with all tv shows so I haven't caught up but I really loved the first season. I'll have to start watching again!
@@YeetusTheFetus oh yeah definitely, I've never been told that I don't "look Cuban" by other Cubans or other people who get that, it's most often by people who aren't Latino.
My oldest daughter is blonde w blue eyes and extremely fair skin and her biological dad and I both have really dark hair and hazel/brown eyes. I just assumed I’d have a chubby brown haired brown eyed baby, so when she arrived earth side at a teeny 5’10oz w strawberry blonde hair and crystal blue eyes, the shock was real.. And that’s when I remembered that tidbit from biology class about dominant recessive genes😅 and then it all made perfect sense!
I totally relate!! Both my parents have black hair, hazel eyes and my mom is quite olive-y/tan. And here I am having light/medium brown hair(I was blonde as a kidl, blue/green eyes, very pale skin and I'm the shortest in my family. Which is even weirder because both my siblings are much taller, tan, have brown/hazel eyes and really dark brown hair.
@@shramanadasdutta3006 That is indeed very very normal! SOOO many blond babies end up with much darker hair as adults, ranging from dark blond to brown. Texture can also change. It's very very common for babies who are born with a lot of hair to change color and/or texture. But texture can also change later in life. (Sometimes intense medical treatments can also change haircolor.)
@@shramanadasdutta3006 My hair was so light, almost white when I was a toddler, most of my teenage years it was dark blonde and now Im 22 and its brown for few yesrs and looks like its gonna stay like that 🤷🏻♀
I relate. I have black-brown hair and dark brown eyes. My husband is blonde and has green eyes. Both my children look like exact copies of him and everyday when I brush their hair I ask myself how it is possible that I have two blond children 😅
Interesting language difference: Maybe this is because I'm American My husband and I are an interracial couple. If I said mixed race that would imply we were both mixed. I am white. He is from Laos. So neither of us is mixed.
no, they're mixed race meaning two different races were their parents. Like your kids would be mixed race, so their partner being white would make them a mixed race couple not an interracial couple
I am also from the US and I am White and my husband is Native American and I refer to our relationship as interracial. I would never think up to call it mixed race, but it makes sense. I think either term is fine.
When you talked about the kid potentially not looking white at all, I remembered an Australian TH-camr who is white and married to a black woman and they have children together as well. In one vlog, he seemed quite disturbed because someone has seen him with his daughter and didn't want to believe he was her father at all.
It can be even worse when it's the other way around. I've seen black parents with white-passing children being mistaken by the kid's nanny or even accused of kidnapping. It's disturbing.
That's so frustrating, but I get it to an extent. My cousin's and I have different grandfather's. Our grandmother was European, Aboriginal and Mauri, but their grandfather is Aboriginal and mine is Irish/Spanish. Also means they look brown, while I look white. Any time I hang out with them I feel awkward because we don't look related. I can imagine me being 18, and spending time with my 13 and 16 year old cousins who don't look related could come off pretty strange to people who don't know that.
@@tatianaleutwiler1867 This happens to my family all the time, we are African Americans of varying skin tones, but my sister’s fiancé is German American; their daughter is white passing. I can’t even count how many times I’ve been out with my sister and niece, and someone had the audacity to ask if we were babysitting her 😒
My mom is Asian, and even when we were living in east asian countries she would always get people thinking she was my nanny (I looked very chinese when I was born but it wore off quickly). And I know it really bugged her (plus the colorism, because she tans more easily than I do, and we lived in a few placed where a lot of domestic workers were south-east asian). It's messed up.
Claudia talking about chinese middle names made me think of my little cousins! Their mum is chinese-american and their dad is Dutch. They live in the US, so their first names are English, and their middle names are chinese and dutch!
If you've grown up Aussie or you've emigrated here of your own desire and you love this country then you're 100% Aussie, no matter where you or your parents came from. Australian isn't an ethnicity, it's a way of thinking. So you're 50% Fijian Indian and 50% Caucasian, and 100% Aussie. Enjoy!
4:35 I relate to that, my mum is Iraqi-American, and my dad is Scottish- so whenever I'm in Britain I'm considered quite American, and whenever I'm in the US, I'm seen as quite British. I'm never seen as Iraqi because I'm 'too pale for that'. I do have quite pale skin, but that doesn't mean that I don't have Iraqi origins.
Same! I'm half Iranian and half general white (dad is third gen British/scottish/irish) I never get told that I look like I am Iranian, but that doesn't mean that I'm not!
Im a mandaean Iraqi and even thought I'm not mixed, I also never get told I look Iraqi, and it's so annoying. People just need to stop making racial assumptions it's rude af
Claudia can't stop touching her belly when they are talking about having kids "in the future" and I'm just sitting here post-pregancy-video-release gently sobbing ;w;
Just under 3 minutes in and I'm listening to Claudia and I realise. OMG I'm mixed race. Because I look white bit I'm actually Chinese, Polish, Russian and English so ergo not just white British. It was very validating to hear someone say that you can be mixed race without looking at certain way because I don't want to say that I am and then feel like I'm invading someone else's space or liable
Yeah I'm bi ethnic and bicultural (Polish and Scottish, raised in Scotland), and I do sometimes feel "too white" for conversations about race and ethnicity. I don't think of myself as mixed race cause that would be a bit weird, and I always get confused when folk talk about BAME people cause it has "minority ethnic" in there, but also says it just means "person of colour", so I don't know what I am anymore 😂
Here in Australia there are plenty of people who are part-aboriginal but have pale skin, blue eyes, fair hair. They're still aboriginal if they grew up in that culture, even if they can 'pass' for Caucasian if they want to and obviously don't suffer the prejudice and abuse experienced by people who are visibly indigenous. It's a thing.
yeah, i think there's of course an underlying privilege in being 'white passing' but that doesn't mean that you can't embrace and be a part of all the cultures you grew up with! you still have a space in those spaces
thanks for the nice comment 😁 (idk it probably wasn't aimed at me but whatever) for me though it's not just that I have some other nice cultures that I grew up with though, like Jessica in the video for example. Cos I do speak Polish and have a Polish name, visit Poland a lot and have family there etc. I'm often not seen as Scottish here, and in primary school I was bullied for being Polish and supposedly having a weird sounding voice. There were a few incidents in school with people basically being racist. I specifically remember one girl saying in a really mean way "you keep staring at me. Do all Polish people stare weirdly like that" in a really mean way. I think a lot of the kids were just jealous of the fact that I was bilingual tbh. My mum's had plenty of racist incidents as well, especially cos she doesn't pass as a white British person cos she speaks English with a Polish accent. There's still a lot of xenophobia and racism in the UK in general against anyone who's an immigrant and/or a person of colour. I recognise of course that being white makes it easier for me, but I do feel that white ethnic minority people are often left out if the conversation. There was a lot of xenophobic rhetoric used by UKIP for example towards Eastern European immigrants, and I'm a second generation immigrant. Also I think a lot of white gypsy/traveller people experience a lot of marginalisation but are still not being talked about a lot, unless I'm missing something.
i've alwas had a confusing time with my race and how i looked, because my dad is equadorian and my mom is white, but i didn't really grow up with my dad, because he moved when i was little. and though i still saw him, he never shared his culture with me like how you were talking about. and I've always felt . . . unworthy, maybe, of calling myself mixed or brown because i cant speak his tongue, and my skin is light brown, lighter than my sisters and I've always lived in a very white community with my very white family and my brown family on a different continent in a different country. and i have to remind myself that i AM half brown and half white. and this video made me feel good about that part of me, so thank you.
I'm very ethnically white (and non-visible disabled, so I pass as "normal"), but I grew up in Toronto in a very mixed community. Then I moved to a small town in Manitoba for my masters degree and felt super uncomfortable in my first couple of classes, but I couldn't pin down why. Eventually I realized it was because it was the first time in my life when everyone in the room looked exactly like me and there were no non-white people, and everyone else thought that was normal but my brain thought I was in some kind of sci-fi, Stepford situation.
this was so long ago but i experienced this exact thing moving to australia when i was 14. i grew up in a predominantly asian community (20% white i believe?) with people from all around the continent. there was only one other white person in my classes, but then i moved to australia and suddenly the ratios were completely flipped. it freaked me out for a while, hahah.
Does Jessica always have a laughing fit every time you guys meet? Because I'm pretty sure she did in the last couple video collabs you had, so I'm curious now 😂
Claud: Every Christmas, Jessica comes down the stairs with candles on her head (...) Me, a Swede: nah, that's Lucia, that's almost 2 weeks before Christmas :p
Yeah i didn't really realise that Lucia wasn't a thing outside of Scandinavia 😅😬, so I godt kinda confused when Claudia started explaining it as if it was a wired thing 😅 ( hello from Denmark ☺️)
as a half white british and half brazilian, this video hit me right in the feels. I can relate to so much of what you're saying because i feel like i've rejected my mother's side of the family because i don't speak portuguese anymore and i dont really do any Brazilian customs anymore. I feel like i dont quite fit into either culture.
My partner is British/Brazilian and his mother was from Brazil. He feels so similar because he left brazil early and can only speak Portuguese at the level of a child but it was his first language. I'm trying to help him keep in touch with that side of himself. He doesn't feel Brazilian because he's whiter than white, he didn't really inherit anything from his mother but identified a lot more with her. I've found his family really accepting though and are really patient with our poor Portuguese. I'm sure your family would happily accept you. Embrace both sides and don't be ashamed! But know you're definitely not alone in being a British/Brazilian feeling lost. Saúde 💞
@Clara S Salut!! Désolé pour la réponse qui sort de nul part après 9 mois 😅 J'ai jamais rencontrer une autre personne d'origine brésilienne vivant en France et il fallait que je te parle!! Je me reconnais tellement dans tes paroles, je me sens accepté dans aucun de mes "identités". On m'a déjà fait la reflexion que j'ai pas l'air d'être d'origine brésilienne (sur la côté de ma mère) car je suis assez pâle. J'ai un accent en français, en portuguais ET en anglais (du côté de mon père). Fin bref ça fait plaisir de voir d'autres personnes dans des situations similaires 😌
Hi! Sorry for the random comment 9 months later! I just wanted to chime in since i'm in a similar position as you with a Brazilian mother and British father (But born in another country entirely) and say that *your* comment hits home for me as I can't speak Portuguese fluently and feel a little alienated from *all* the cultures i'm associated ?? with 😅😅 I just wanted to say you're not alone ♥️
This was super wholesome, I'm mixed race Fijian Indian and white Australian, but was adopted by white parents. It's amazing to see couples talking about how to raise their kids with connections to both cultures and heritage. I wish I had that experience, you are all going to be amazing parents ❤
This is really interesting! I'm technically not mixed race, but I am half German and living in Scotland, so there's still a lot I can relate to. Like, my German family always refer to us as living in England, even though we don't, basically because Germans do tend to refer to the whole UK as England - and it's something that always slightly bugs me, especially with the current political situation. They forget that the majority of Scotland was completely against Brexit and are frantically trying to distance themselves from England! I also have a lot of mixed traditions - for Hogmanay (Scottish New Year), we often meet up with the other German families in our area and spend the night watching Dinner For One and singing Auld Lang Syne and basically completely mixing up both cultures! And at Christmas I get THREE days of opening presents - the 6th December, when we put out our boots, Christmas Eve, when we open our our presents from German relatives, and Christmas Day, when we have stockings and all that stuff. So yeah, it's generally pretty cool - apart from my accent, which is a weird mesh of German, Scottish and English and baffles every single person I ever meet!
I am half danish half norwegian which is a bit like Jessica because the countries arent culturally that different to each other yet it still has a big impact on my upbringing and i find it really interesting how cultures can mix within a country and how family unites cultures and kind of creates a new one within a home. Very interesting video!
I'm a quarter korean (technically second generation born in the USA) and I am full blonde hair blue eyes and every time I tell someone it baffles them that I am asian and make homemade kimchi for fun. It warms my heart to hear how y'all wanna keep your kids connected to their cultures
I commented once on one of JKF's videos that I'm jealous of you both. You know each other in person. Two of my favorite channels. On a topical note my children are all half african american half white. I'm white, and being in the USA you see so much racism everyday. It's not easy to navigate it with kids. I tell people you won't prevent the names and comments. But you can hold your child through it and teach them to take those emotions and put them towards building a better world and activism so their kids won't have to experience these things.
I'm Jewish, and between me and my nine siblings, we have such a wide range of ethnic features. Especially during the summer, it looks like my brother and I are different races
My sisters neighbours are a mixed race family, they recently had a baby (who i met for the first time yesterday and omg he is so cute). The mum is Scottish and the dad is African, the girls look like their dad and the boys look like their mum, but the baby at the moment is looking very mixed race and I was told his colouring may change as he grows up because he is only 6 weeks. I found that very interesting. My niece is best friends with their 3 year old daughter, she always says "im not black, im not white, I am chocolate" which is super adorable. This video was really insightful ♡
Mia Smith in their situation I'd be quarantining pre-emptively for a couple of weeks before seeing her. They haven't said what they did, but they're educated people.
As a member of a couple that isn’t inter-racial, but inter-faith, this was interesting. You’d never know from looking at us, but when we got together each of us had to learn in some depth the traditions and understandings of another religion. We love our little interfaith traditions ❤️
I love when all four of you get together, it looks like you really have a great friendship. Yes it is online and not everything we see is accurate but there is just something too the ease with which all four of you interact. Thank you for bringing some of these points up as they are definitely interesting to see and understand. All four of you are great at helping us learn new points of view on topics we may not have thought about before. Truly wonderful content on all fronts.
I think that kids brought up from the LGBTQ+ communities and families of minorities will grow up to be more understanding. With more acceptance of people's love, this allows for more families that are not considered the "norm". And as such, I hope to see a newer generation that is less ignorant and more welcoming of others.
Love you Shaaba, but I just wanted to say that race is different from ethnicity. At the beginning ya'll kept talking about some who is jewish being with someone who is french. That's not a racially mixed couple, it's a ethnically mixed couple.
Yeah! My mom is Jewish and my dad is a white guy (raised Christian but that isn't really relevant) and since they're both white I don't consider myself to be a mixed-race kid or that my parents are a mix-raced couple. Obviously there's a blending of cultures, but I wouldn't say races at all.
I was very impressed by the door/screen matching and eye contact before the set up was revealed XD This was really great to watch, I hope you all do a collab again soon (and I will definitely be checking out their content)
Thank you guys so much for this video!! I’m in an interracial relationship and didn’t even process cause my girlfriend looks very white. I mean she tells me abt cultural things that are different then mine but my brain still didn’t make the connection somehow??? And I never thought abt raising kids from a culture stand point.-But this just got me so excited because now I get to go and learn abt a whole other side of her that I sadly hadn’t been paying enough attention to
This colab made me so happy!! Videos like this are so rare right now and while I have been rewatching a lot of old colabs, having a new one is really great. Thanks a lot!
I really enjoyed this! I’m in one of those intercultural relationships. I live in Sweden but grew up with and have kept up with a number of Russian traditions from my mother. My partner enjoys them - especially the food - and I sometimes forget which ones are ’normal’.
I love how y'all talked about not feeling a part of stuff and not looking mixed race cause I'm mixed and I've been told I'm not cause my skin is lighter like that had nothing to do with it at all. I love the conversation y'all had
I am from the US and prior to seeing this video I had no idea what you meant by the “p word”, so I did my research. Some things I found said that the term is the equivalent of the n-word in the US, so I won’t be mentioning in this post. If you’re like me, look it up and educate yourself. In the US, this word isn’t generally seen as derogatory because we don’t hold the same historical roots to the term. Where I live, i’ve only heard it used when people are describing themselves as an abbreviation. However, there are definitely people in the US that would take offense to the term. I plan to tell my friends and family what I’ve learned, so that they are aware. Thank you for inspiring me to learn more about the history of racism outside of the US! Also, I think that it is important that we acknowledge these cultural differences so that we don’t misinterpret things and instead educate each other on these topics (: Much love ❤️ keep doing what you do
Oh, I’m from Kentucky & Ive definitely heard the word & known it is a slur. Didn’t realize it had more of a history in the UK, etc (tho that makes sense, as there are more Pakistani immigrants there & with the comment about Jamie’s parents, etc)
10:06 to 10:27 THIS 100%! When I went to Taiwan for the first time and met people from my mom's childhood I felt so much guilt for not being what I was supposed to be
I think it's also important to know that, as a mixed race raised in a 1st world country, your experiences of racism and xenophobia are very different from the stuggles people from your ethnicity suffer in their countries. Even though you suffer from your racial background in your rich country, you do not experience imperialism nor knows how it is to be a person of your ethnicity in their "original" country, so you do not have the full experience of being that race/ethnicity. Like, as a Latina from an actual latino country, i feel the gap between latinos in the US or in Europe and it is NOT the same, and latinos in those countries do NOT represent latinos in latin america, they are their own group of people.
It's so cute how you both have one arm on your partners legs. Looks like there's a lot of trust und warmth. Every video with this cooperation is a delight
Hi Shaaba! I would love to hear you talk more about your Mauritian background if it’s something you would like to share more about. I’m white Australian but have Mauritian family history on my mum’s side and it’s something I would love to learn more about :)
this was lovely, so happy to see you all collaborate again and laugh together like that! also was interesting to listen to all this when I grew up in a very homogeneous culture
My husband and I are an interracial couple expecting our first child and we have been discussing all of these issues while we impatiently wait for this kid to be born. We have no idea what they will look like but are hoping for a mix! 😄 When picking a name, we definitely thought about it a lot. We thought it important that the name be something both families can pronounce. So we looked through hundreds of Dari/Persian names to find one that Americans would be able to pronounce. We hope that will make it easier for our baby to feel a part of both groups.
This was really lovey to watch. My partner and I are mixed race- he’s a dark skinned black man from Guyana, and I’m very white and American/Scottish. Living in America, even though we live in a moderately diverse city, we still get a lot of racism directed at us while we’re out in town. And when finding a place to settle down, how diverse and chill the people are in that area is a big part of it. While we won’t ever be having biological kids, talking about children and specifically what ethnicity of child we might want to adopt some day is something we really have to consider. Plus with us both having strong cultural ties, if that child was from a different culture than us the aspect of blending their original heritage in to their environment growing up so they don’t lose that is really important to us as well. I appreciate that you guys are bringing up these topics that don’t get discussed enough, especially within the queer community💕
*SQUEE!!!!* Two of my fav TH-cam couples getting together OMG 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩💖🧡💛💚💙💜 Thank you so much for this! I really LOVED to watch this and it was all wonderful! Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!!
I'm mixed race raised and living in Scotland. I'm half Bangladeshi and half Scottish but my Bangladesh side is quite obvious. Spent my entire life being called the P word and have people ask "but where are you REALLY from?!" When I would give Scotland as my answer. It's the only country and culture I've ever known so of course I'm going to answer I'm from Scotland 🤷 Also because my mum is white, like SO pale white, when she was out with me on her own as a kid, people would ask if she adopted me or even if she knew me(people thought maybe she stole someone else's kid). And if I ever played with the other mixed race kids outside, passerbys would assume we were all related and that our parents just had a ton of kids and they'd look down on us. People are more quick to realise my mum is my biological mum now, but it's still not their first thought lol
All your energies, some deep breathing and pressure points just brought me down from a nauseous episode - but mostly your beautiful wonderful selves, glad to stumble across something I didn't know I needed
Hey, little fun fact,, Judaism is not actually a race, its an ethnicity or a tribe. By referring to it as a race you can exclude mizrahi or sephardi Jews (or the Jews of many other races),, just heard that in the video so I thought I'd let you know
Well "race" is a blurry word anyways, because basically races don't biologically exist anyways. But/and some jewish people are quite clearly genetically of the same people. But yeah, "race" is quite a loaded word and a fiddly one.
As white woman who married a white Jewish man I definitely encountered some members of my husband’s family who referred to our relationship as interracial and it threw me for a bit since I considered our relationship a mixed faith one not an interracial one but there is definitely a commonly held belief that Jewish is a race within the Jewish community
@@LOSTNTH0UGHT Indeed. To be fair, many people don't fully consider the implications of just how loud and strong a "Jews are a different race form whites" message was sent in the 20th century (and still is, by certain... types of individuals). At least in the United States, there is the ethnicity of "Jewish" and the religious identification of "Jewish," and someone can be both, neither, or just one of the two. I suspect the fact that "Jewish" can refer to a religious group as well as an ethnic one, paired with the recent/ongoing discrimination, keeps the ethnic distinction alive.
Thank you so much for having us! You’re a delight even through a door ❤️
I really enjoyed this. I follow both Jessica and Jamie's channels. I am married to a Thai/Mon man who is dark skinned. My husband has experienced racism for being in a mixed race couple in both countries. When it happened in Thailand it really shocked me. I presumed it would be aimed at me as the foreign partner.
We have 3 children together and my youngest has dark skin and tight curls. In Thailand we noticed that she was not as favoured as my eldest most white British looking boy. Also she struggles to relate to either culture and is more attracted to black children with tight curls. In particular in books and when we are out and about she will say "look mummy they look like me". Race, culture and background are such important aspects of peoples perceptions of themselves. It is sad and frustrating to witness racism to people you love but she has a strong sense of self and I hope she will be able to hold on to the things that make her special and unique ❤ Brilliant video Shaaba...subscribe
I'm really surprised there wasn't an interpreter! I'm watching Jessica lip read through the door. It's a lot going on and I've got that same look on my face when I'm concentrating.
@@ancielmere485 she seems to be a very skilled lipreader
@@laneadams1303 SUPER skilled. I couldn't do it. You have to read on both sides and through a plate of glass... Me in Jessica's place I'd just be smiling in confusion in my wife's lap. That's ok I'm cute.
@Jessica Kellgren-Fozard You could even say, a-door-able!
The fact that there are zero straight people in that room-
Isn't the lady straight?
@@hannahb9864 Shaaba is bisexual :)
@@displayname9538 ohhhhh nice didn't know
@@hannahb9864 her Video discussing it is very good!
@@hannahb9864 There are 3 ladies present, are there not?
Really forgot Jamie was trans for a second there when Claudia said he’d still experienced discrimination and thought ‘he can’t have had it that bad for being Scottish’ 🤦♂️
OMFG
SAME
I was here "but… he's a white guy… how much discrimination could he… OH."
@@tatianaleutwiler1867 Reminds me to a situation during a "Critical Whiteness" workshop when we talked about privilege and one guy share his experience of discrimination because he was gay.
Intersectionality. It's a thing. ^ ^
@@johannageisel5390 Definitely. I've been following Jamie for a long time now and I guess him being trans has become just a minor information about him in my mind, so for a second there I forgot. 😂
Wait, he's Scottish?
"Our babies are gonna hang out together"
Ok, I'd like to officially change my opinion about family vlogs, I now love them and need them and please give them to meeee
This particular family would just be wholesome and not put their kids on the internet for clicks and money.
@@fardareismai4495 yes because sharing their family is using children for clicks and money 😂 wtf 😂
@@ashergrey9468 children cannot legally consent to their images, names or personal details being shared on the internet. Therefore, family vlogs are in principle not a good idea. I'm not saying it's always a bad thing, but there are certainly families who exploit their children for views by filming their most vulnerable and private moments for monetisation. That's the simple truth.
@@fardareismai4495 you can say Myka Stauffer, its ok
@@CoRLex-jh5vx yeah...
I'm half and half, me dad's a muggle, mam's a witch. Pretty nasty shock for him when he found out
THIS IS UNDERRATED
I always say this when I measure my food😂😂😂
Ohhhhh love that!!!😁😍⚡
Have you read this with an accent too? 😂
the way i cackled! at first i was like hmmm half and half what? then i started reading and brain just auto filled... this was great, thank you for bring me joy :))
This video is the proof of "it's not forced diversity, people just exists" and I love it
(This is in relation to characters being of "too many" minority/descriminated groups, or having "too many" not the default white cishet able-bodied christian male in a group of characters)
"Forced diversity" is a term used when some people assume white is "normal" and every other person is "political". It's a term that says a lot about the people who use it unironically and actually believe it's a thing tbh, just like people who use the term "politically correct" instead of inclusive/non-violent/non-marginalising/non-problematic/non-dated language. Hearing people use that term is a red flag - in my experience either they subscribe to problematic beliefs or they have been taken in by dog whistle terms because they are not informed about the actual harm and systemic inequality perpetuated by those beliefs in the first place and have been fooled by the language of bigots framing violence and harm as the victim being "offended".
So Jake Peralta being Jew also adds a hit of diversity to B99. That show never fails to impress
@Mia Smith sorry what show is this? I wanna watch.
@@shramanadasdutta3006 they’re talking about How To Get Away With Murder
@@curiousnerdkitteh this is a really narrow minded view...there is definitely nuance here. As a black woman I’ve definitely seen shows where the diversity felt forced as in there’s just a token black character who doesn’t have much of a personality outside of saying stereotypical things like “my man” or “now that’s what I’m talkin about”.
I also think the term politically correct can apply to certain things. Sometimes it’s just proper representation or people refusing to accept racism and doing something about it...and other times it’s something silly like “well you can’t use the word black to refer to black people, African American is more polite”.
I think it’s disturbing that both sides of this argument refuse to apply any nuance to these situations. Diversity and representation are great things of course, but sometimes it does feel forced or like a way to virtue signal when the person creating the content doesn’t actually know any people of color nor have they spoken to or consulted with them when creating POC characters who then up being caricatures of real people. Again, nuance is a great thing that I think a lot of people have completely abandoned these days.
I spent a while wondering if the door was one door or if it was an optical illusion and both sides of the screen were different rooms entirely. Thought it was a very well edited zoom call. 😂
I thought so too! I was looking at the door handles trying to figure out if they were on the same door
Same 🤣
@Mia Smiththe door doesn't do shit also lol... They really need to stay apart / wear masks ...
Yeah and they were looking at each other and making eye contact so I think there's a window.
it helps with that illusion that the shadow makes it look like there's different paint on the walls.
I really felt that bit when Claud said that even if her kids turned out blonde and blue-eyed, they'd still have Chinese middle names. I'm blonde and blue-eyed, but my dad is Inuit and all his kids have Inuit names or nicknames, regardless of being lighter than some others. What gets interesting is when people see me practicing Inuit customs, and call appropriation on me because of my skin colour. Which is good, I suppose, being willing to call people out for bad behaviour, but it's alright, people, its my heritage, so these practices are mine to do and enjoy. It also makes me more aware of the way I am privileged because of my skin colour, because even some of my siblings are on the receiving end of racist comments or actions, even though we share the same DNA. It's disgusting, frankly.
slightly off topic but appropriation definitely doesn't exist. it's purely an american concept. Japanese people who work in kimono shops in Japan would love to see you in one, even if someone's white.
Participating in cultural traditions is not even cultural appropriation. Its nice that you are so kind about it but I also have a mixed heritage while not looking like one of them. It is very annoying to have to justify my culture to some clueless people who feel entitled to police me. You can not look at someone and instantly what their culture is and people who shout "cultural approriation" SHOULD know better than to make those kinds of assumptions. Cultural appropriation is a thing that happens in the world, and likely will always happen. We are all influenced by each other. Cultural appropriation is only a problem when a certain community is exploited as a result of it.
I never understood this concept. What’s wrong with someone wanting to share certain traditions? If someone’s interested in learning about and participating in cultural traditions that are not from their culture; why hate these people for accepting a world beyond their own?
@@colorbar.s im just curious about your opinion on this, but what about japanese diaspora? someone japanese living in a predominately white area, could experience discrimination in a different way? ive seen people talk about being bullied for wearing traditional clothing, and then seeing those bullies wear it as a trend? idk i think theres some grey area especially when it comes to diaspora
We had a girl at school who was blonde haired blue eyes who was fluent in Mandarin as a kid because her granddad was Chinese. Apparently it led to a lot of accidental eavesdropping!
As someone who technically is mixed, primarily Indigenous, but looks incredibly white because of that one grandparent .. this was so validating
My mum is aboriginal but I look nothing like her or my siblings, I look 100% stereotypiaclly Jewish like my Dad.
Omg so glad to see some others here who struggle because of archaic expectations of what one should look like because of their racial background. As a biracial latine kid who came out lighter skinned than both of her parents because of that one grandparent, I appreciate conversations like this one.
Same here - I'm half burmese half irish, and I look 'ethnically ambiguous' but where they were speaking about feeling out of place with either side, or issues with languages - that hit hard.
I belong to minor community in Hindus, where almost everyone has blue or green eyes and peaches and cream skin. Unfortunately me and my sister got brown skin and dark brown eyes like father. All my cousins from mum's side look like British.
Kristen over on The Kitchen and Jorn Show did a video about being indigenous but appearing white, I suggest you also check that out!
The tension of getting this notification in the middle of Jessica’s bisexual princess video.
Solution: two screens, babyyyyyyy
SAME
My notifications suck. I didn't get EITHER notification. Jessica's showed up on my home page and this was recommended while I was watching it in the videos below.
Solution, play both multiple times so we can give them the watch time and revenue they rightfully deserve
Not related to the content itself but my 4 year old comes up to me watching this and points at you and Jamie and goes “IT’S A MUMMY AND A DADDY” and then points and Jessica and Claudia and goes “AND TWO MUMMIES!”
She was very excited about it lol and then watched the rest of the video with me
Aww
so cute 😭 the 4 year old i nanny had a pretty long phase a couple years ago where she'd call any woman a mom, every man a dad, and every kid a baby (including the older kids lol). we'd be out getting muffins or something and a lady would walk by and she'd yell "A MOMMY"
Straight people will literally ask any lesbian couple if they’re sisters no matter how different they look. Because apparently it’s impossible for two women to be together 🙄. It makes for some funny stories though 😂
I feel like that sometimes comes from not wanting to be rude? Like, they don’t want to assume you’re gay so they ask if you’re sisters first.
@Jackie Zhang I’m not saying it’s rude, I’m saying other people might think it’s possibly rude. I mean, when I see a couple of people together and I need to find out how they are here together, it is kind of awkward figuring out how to ask if they are siblings, friends, etc. Typically for myself, I just ask who’s your friend? But you know how it is, social gatherings, sometimes your foot goes in your mouth and you don’t always think to say that. I know, for instance, sometimes people see me with my sister and, knowing she’s gay and has a girlfriend, assume I am that girlfriend and that’s a little awkward because, I mean, she’s my sister 😂 Basically what I’m saying is I don’t think there’s always bad intent. I do think we need to stop being offended if somebody asks if we’re gay or see something that makes them assume we are. You’re right, it’s nothing to be offended by and a simple correction is all it takes
It also is a strange question to ask at all. I have never been asked if I was sisters with my actual sister. I feel like I'm general, people only ask if either there genuinely is a striking similarity between two women, or they realize the women are together and feel uncomfortable with that realization.
@@tesstucker3311 Personally having a sibling that was assumed to be a couple was hilarious. I'm guessing being a couple mistaken for siblings wouldn't be so fun.
@@leonpage3585 coming from my pov as a gay woman with a twin sister, you get those questions all the damn time. I of course get questions about being a twin when I’m with my sister, and my gf and I have still gotten asked about it even though we’re quite dissimilar. It’s only when we’re all together and I clearly have someone else with the same face in the vicinity that my gf and I don’t get confused as sisters. (Even then someone asked once, very dubiously like in the middle of asking they realized how silly it was.) I have big curly brown hair, a small nose, and flatter features, and my gf has wavy black hair, an above average nose, and sharp features. I’m a bean pole and and she’s got curves. The only thing remotely similar about us is our skin tone, and even then she’s covered in freckles while I’m not. So i daresay those questions often come from a non-judgmental but ingrained idea of heteronormativity. The default to assume people are hetero is so basic that two women being very touchy feely and close with each other are more readily assumed to be related than being romantically involved.
I'm an Indian-Canadian (as in I was born in Canada but am 100% ethnically Indian) and am also lgbt and this was a very interesting discussion for me to hear! Love it when you collab lol Jessica and Claudia's vibe and your vibe mesh so well together. Big dorky parental energy, super interesting ppl
I am half white and half middle eastern
You Indian AND Lgbtq? Thats happening somewhere in the world? Wohh. Good for you.
im british-indian and lgbt :)
@@shramanadasdutta3006 I'm completely Indian and LGBT. And half my friends are also completely Indian and LGBT + too. You just don't see us coming out in daily life cause the society sucks but a large population of Indians are LGBTQ+. Just saying. You don't have to act like you saw a 3 headed snake.
@@shramanadasdutta3006 Lilly Singh (a popular TH-camr) is Indian-canadian and bi.
My husband and I were really surprised by how our daughters turned out (as far as looks). I'm African American and he is very white (blue eyes, blonde hair as a kid that turned brown as he got older). Our oldest daughter looks EXACTLY like him! lol Light brown hair with the slightest hint of a curl. Eyes that usually look grey, but can be blue or green depending on the day. Pale skin that pinks very easily. She got my full lips and small ears and that's it. Our second kid, on the other hand, is ALL me! Afro-curly hair, dark brown eyes, though light-skinned in the way you'd usually think a "mixed baby" would be. Funny enough, she got my husband's thin lips and big ears. Genetics are weird! haha
On a serious note, I am a little worried for when they get older because my oldest gets a lot of attention for being beautiful, specifically for her grey eyes (she's only 6, but people have been commenting on it since she was a baby). The same attention is not given to my youngest, even though she's just as beautiful. My husband and I have been doing what we can to ensure they both grow up knowing their value is not based upon their looks. Hopefully the fact that they look so different at first glance, and people's different reactions to them, won't effect their relationship as they grow. It's something my husband and I talk about a lot.
You sound like good parents. I hope everything is going well
Both of you are awesome couples.
Signed,
A Pakistani trans masculine person who used to be a lesbian
I'm half white British and half Chinese-Malaysian too!
Honestly, that's super cool
Same! Haha
As a half Cuban half white person that doesn't "look Cuban," I really appreciated this video, especially what Claudia was saying about not quite fitting in because she can't speak her mother's language. Love you guys and the awesome content you make!
Ooh have you watched one day at a time? It a really good sitcom that needs all the support it can get and also has amazing representation
@@ambergardener9114 omg I LOVE that show!! I'm terrible at keeping up with all tv shows so I haven't caught up but I really loved the first season. I'll have to start watching again!
There are white Cubans though. Like ted Cruz’s father
@@YeetusTheFetus that's why I referenced one day at a time, it talks about that topic
@@YeetusTheFetus oh yeah definitely, I've never been told that I don't "look Cuban" by other Cubans or other people who get that, it's most often by people who aren't Latino.
My oldest daughter is blonde w blue eyes and extremely fair skin and her biological dad and I both have really dark hair and hazel/brown eyes. I just assumed I’d have a chubby brown haired brown eyed baby, so when she arrived earth side at a teeny 5’10oz w strawberry blonde hair and crystal blue eyes, the shock was real.. And that’s when I remembered that tidbit from biology class about dominant recessive genes😅 and then it all made perfect sense!
I totally relate!! Both my parents have black hair, hazel eyes and my mom is quite olive-y/tan. And here I am having light/medium brown hair(I was blonde as a kidl, blue/green eyes, very pale skin and I'm the shortest in my family. Which is even weirder because both my siblings are much taller, tan, have brown/hazel eyes and really dark brown hair.
@@Sadmanmcgee ummm? Your hair changed colour? Is that normal and common? I hope you are okay man.
@@shramanadasdutta3006 That is indeed very very normal! SOOO many blond babies end up with much darker hair as adults, ranging from dark blond to brown. Texture can also change. It's very very common for babies who are born with a lot of hair to change color and/or texture. But texture can also change later in life. (Sometimes intense medical treatments can also change haircolor.)
@@shramanadasdutta3006 My hair was so light, almost white when I was a toddler, most of my teenage years it was dark blonde and now Im 22 and its brown for few yesrs and looks like its gonna stay like that 🤷🏻♀
I relate. I have black-brown hair and dark brown eyes. My husband is blonde and has green eyes. Both my children look like exact copies of him and everyday when I brush their hair I ask myself how it is possible that I have two blond children 😅
Interesting language difference: Maybe this is because I'm American My husband and I are an interracial couple. If I said mixed race that would imply we were both mixed. I am white. He is from Laos. So neither of us is mixed.
I think the term that used to be used was interracial for couples, but it and mixed race seem to have kinda merged now in common use
no, they're mixed race meaning two different races were their parents. Like your kids would be mixed race, so their partner being white would make them a mixed race couple not an interracial couple
@@indievariety but that definition only applies to Jessica and Claudia. So them saying they are two mixed-race couples wouldn't make sense.
I am also from the US and I am White and my husband is Native American and I refer to our relationship as interracial. I would never think up to call it mixed race, but it makes sense. I think either term is fine.
Jessica looks like she stepped out of a black and white film noir. Love that look.
When you talked about the kid potentially not looking white at all, I remembered an Australian TH-camr who is white and married to a black woman and they have children together as well. In one vlog, he seemed quite disturbed because someone has seen him with his daughter and didn't want to believe he was her father at all.
It can be even worse when it's the other way around. I've seen black parents with white-passing children being mistaken by the kid's nanny or even accused of kidnapping. It's disturbing.
My white friend gets "who was your adoption agency" about her biological half Taiwanese daughter.
That's so frustrating, but I get it to an extent.
My cousin's and I have different grandfather's. Our grandmother was European, Aboriginal and Mauri, but their grandfather is Aboriginal and mine is Irish/Spanish. Also means they look brown, while I look white.
Any time I hang out with them I feel awkward because we don't look related. I can imagine me being 18, and spending time with my 13 and 16 year old cousins who don't look related could come off pretty strange to people who don't know that.
@@tatianaleutwiler1867 This happens to my family all the time, we are African Americans of varying skin tones, but my sister’s fiancé is German American; their daughter is white passing.
I can’t even count how many times I’ve been out with my sister and niece, and someone had the audacity to ask if we were babysitting her 😒
My mom is Asian, and even when we were living in east asian countries she would always get people thinking she was my nanny (I looked very chinese when I was born but it wore off quickly). And I know it really bugged her (plus the colorism, because she tans more easily than I do, and we lived in a few placed where a lot of domestic workers were south-east asian). It's messed up.
i read 'Mixed Rice Relationship Confessions' smh i thought you were cooking until i read the title again
Claudia talking about chinese middle names made me think of my little cousins! Their mum is chinese-american and their dad is Dutch. They live in the US, so their first names are English, and their middle names are chinese and dutch!
i adore the mirror image of them
✨the serotonin✨
I really loved this video
Omg hi roly! How are ya doin?
Its amazing to know claudia is pregnant here
Jamie can’t be your dodo, as we recently learned he’s not flightless!
Hahaha, loved those videos
lol this took me a minute but then I died XD
I burst out laughing
I'm new to the channel.
Where and when and how has it been established that Jamie is not flightless?
@@johannageisel5390 it was on his channel and Noah Finnce channel also, I think the second to last video
Jamie forgets he’s not cis a lot XD
I suppose it's great that he feels so comfortable in his own skin? idk.
@@Adelaideanegg but question, can they have biological babies??? how could that happen?
@@ZairaBandy well I know Claudia is pregnant- they got sperm from a donor and she is having the baby.
@@ZairaBandy I think Shaba made a video about it
I'm half Fijian Indian and half Aussie and it was really cool seeing positive representation of mixed race couples, love this so much.
As in Anglo/white Aussie? Because I'm Aussie too but not Anglo or white.
@@samos4924 yeah white Aussie on my dad's side
If you've grown up Aussie or you've emigrated here of your own desire and you love this country then you're 100% Aussie, no matter where you or your parents came from. Australian isn't an ethnicity, it's a way of thinking.
So you're 50% Fijian Indian and 50% Caucasian, and 100% Aussie. Enjoy!
4:35 I relate to that, my mum is Iraqi-American, and my dad is Scottish- so whenever I'm in Britain I'm considered quite American, and whenever I'm in the US, I'm seen as quite British. I'm never seen as Iraqi because I'm 'too pale for that'. I do have quite pale skin, but that doesn't mean that I don't have Iraqi origins.
Same! I'm half Iranian and half general white (dad is third gen British/scottish/irish) I never get told that I look like I am Iranian, but that doesn't mean that I'm not!
Same
Im a mandaean Iraqi and even thought I'm not mixed, I also never get told I look Iraqi, and it's so annoying. People just need to stop making racial assumptions it's rude af
Claudia can't stop touching her belly when they are talking about having kids "in the future" and I'm just sitting here post-pregancy-video-release gently sobbing ;w;
Just under 3 minutes in and I'm listening to Claudia and I realise. OMG I'm mixed race. Because I look white bit I'm actually Chinese, Polish, Russian and English so ergo not just white British. It was very validating to hear someone say that you can be mixed race without looking at certain way because I don't want to say that I am and then feel like I'm invading someone else's space or liable
Yeah I'm bi ethnic and bicultural (Polish and Scottish, raised in Scotland), and I do sometimes feel "too white" for conversations about race and ethnicity. I don't think of myself as mixed race cause that would be a bit weird, and I always get confused when folk talk about BAME people cause it has "minority ethnic" in there, but also says it just means "person of colour", so I don't know what I am anymore 😂
Here in Australia there are plenty of people who are part-aboriginal but have pale skin, blue eyes, fair hair. They're still aboriginal if they grew up in that culture, even if they can 'pass' for Caucasian if they want to and obviously don't suffer the prejudice and abuse experienced by people who are visibly indigenous. It's a thing.
yeah, i think there's of course an underlying privilege in being 'white passing' but that doesn't mean that you can't embrace and be a part of all the cultures you grew up with! you still have a space in those spaces
thanks for the nice comment 😁 (idk it probably wasn't aimed at me but whatever) for me though it's not just that I have some other nice cultures that I grew up with though, like Jessica in the video for example. Cos I do speak Polish and have a Polish name, visit Poland a lot and have family there etc. I'm often not seen as Scottish here, and in primary school I was bullied for being Polish and supposedly having a weird sounding voice. There were a few incidents in school with people basically being racist. I specifically remember one girl saying in a really mean way "you keep staring at me. Do all Polish people stare weirdly like that" in a really mean way. I think a lot of the kids were just jealous of the fact that I was bilingual tbh. My mum's had plenty of racist incidents as well, especially cos she doesn't pass as a white British person cos she speaks English with a Polish accent. There's still a lot of xenophobia and racism in the UK in general against anyone who's an immigrant and/or a person of colour. I recognise of course that being white makes it easier for me, but I do feel that white ethnic minority people are often left out if the conversation. There was a lot of xenophobic rhetoric used by UKIP for example towards Eastern European immigrants, and I'm a second generation immigrant. Also I think a lot of white gypsy/traveller people experience a lot of marginalisation but are still not being talked about a lot, unless I'm missing something.
i've alwas had a confusing time with my race and how i looked, because my dad is equadorian and my mom is white, but i didn't really grow up with my dad, because he moved when i was little. and though i still saw him, he never shared his culture with me like how you were talking about. and I've always felt . . . unworthy, maybe, of calling myself mixed or brown because i cant speak his tongue, and my skin is light brown, lighter than my sisters and I've always lived in a very white community with my very white family and my brown family on a different continent in a different country. and i have to remind myself that i AM half brown and half white. and this video made me feel good about that part of me, so thank you.
I'm very ethnically white (and non-visible disabled, so I pass as "normal"), but I grew up in Toronto in a very mixed community. Then I moved to a small town in Manitoba for my masters degree and felt super uncomfortable in my first couple of classes, but I couldn't pin down why. Eventually I realized it was because it was the first time in my life when everyone in the room looked exactly like me and there were no non-white people, and everyone else thought that was normal but my brain thought I was in some kind of sci-fi, Stepford situation.
Ehhh!!! Toronto! Whereabouts?
this was so long ago but i experienced this exact thing moving to australia when i was 14. i grew up in a predominantly asian community (20% white i believe?) with people from all around the continent. there was only one other white person in my classes, but then i moved to australia and suddenly the ratios were completely flipped. it freaked me out for a while, hahah.
10:53 Jammie's gesture of putting his head over her hand in appreciation was so cute! Love's really in the little gestures...
I just realized Claudia was probably already pregnant while filming this video. That's so exciting!!!!
Does Jessica always have a laughing fit every time you guys meet? Because I'm pretty sure she did in the last couple video collabs you had, so I'm curious now 😂
Claud: Every Christmas, Jessica comes down the stairs with candles on her head (...)
Me, a Swede: nah, that's Lucia, that's almost 2 weeks before Christmas :p
Yeah it should be on the 13th 🤣 (From me, a Norwegian)
Yeah i didn't really realise that Lucia wasn't a thing outside of Scandinavia 😅😬, so I godt kinda confused when Claudia started explaining it as if it was a wired thing 😅 ( hello from Denmark ☺️)
I was thinking that too. And I've never considered dalahästar to be Christmassy 😂
Edit: I committed the sin of särskrivning
@@jboj8430 Neither have I. I understand why someone would with the red ones, though.
as a half white british and half brazilian, this video hit me right in the feels. I can relate to so much of what you're saying because i feel like i've rejected my mother's side of the family because i don't speak portuguese anymore and i dont really do any Brazilian customs anymore. I feel like i dont quite fit into either culture.
Hey, I'm Brazilian, but ethnically Japanese; even here we feel lost like that. If you wanna reach out and reconnect with Brazilian customs, feel free!
My partner is British/Brazilian and his mother was from Brazil. He feels so similar because he left brazil early and can only speak Portuguese at the level of a child but it was his first language. I'm trying to help him keep in touch with that side of himself. He doesn't feel Brazilian because he's whiter than white, he didn't really inherit anything from his mother but identified a lot more with her.
I've found his family really accepting though and are really patient with our poor Portuguese. I'm sure your family would happily accept you. Embrace both sides and don't be ashamed! But know you're definitely not alone in being a British/Brazilian feeling lost.
Saúde 💞
@Clara S Salut!! Désolé pour la réponse qui sort de nul part après 9 mois 😅 J'ai jamais rencontrer une autre personne d'origine brésilienne vivant en France et il fallait que je te parle!! Je me reconnais tellement dans tes paroles, je me sens accepté dans aucun de mes "identités". On m'a déjà fait la reflexion que j'ai pas l'air d'être d'origine brésilienne (sur la côté de ma mère) car je suis assez pâle. J'ai un accent en français, en portuguais ET en anglais (du côté de mon père). Fin bref ça fait plaisir de voir d'autres personnes dans des situations similaires 😌
Hi! Sorry for the random comment 9 months later! I just wanted to chime in since i'm in a similar position as you with a Brazilian mother and British father (But born in another country entirely) and say that *your* comment hits home for me as I can't speak Portuguese fluently and feel a little alienated from *all* the cultures i'm associated ?? with 😅😅 I just wanted to say you're not alone ♥️
This was super wholesome, I'm mixed race Fijian Indian and white Australian, but was adopted by white parents. It's amazing to see couples talking about how to raise their kids with connections to both cultures and heritage. I wish I had that experience, you are all going to be amazing parents ❤
That talk about tiny humans got me smiling like crazy at my work in the middle of my lunch breake. I love this colabs with Jess and Claud
Every friend group has The Jamie, doesn't talk much, is very quiet, observes, listens. It's me, I'm the Jamie in my friend group.
This is really interesting! I'm technically not mixed race, but I am half German and living in Scotland, so there's still a lot I can relate to. Like, my German family always refer to us as living in England, even though we don't, basically because Germans do tend to refer to the whole UK as England - and it's something that always slightly bugs me, especially with the current political situation. They forget that the majority of Scotland was completely against Brexit and are frantically trying to distance themselves from England!
I also have a lot of mixed traditions - for Hogmanay (Scottish New Year), we often meet up with the other German families in our area and spend the night watching Dinner For One and singing Auld Lang Syne and basically completely mixing up both cultures! And at Christmas I get THREE days of opening presents - the 6th December, when we put out our boots, Christmas Eve, when we open our our presents from German relatives, and Christmas Day, when we have stockings and all that stuff.
So yeah, it's generally pretty cool - apart from my accent, which is a weird mesh of German, Scottish and English and baffles every single person I ever meet!
"Are you sisters?" I think has more to do with the fact that people are idiots and forget lesbians are real >.>
They are so close! They must be very close.. sisters! xD
There’s an amazing amount of representation in this video. I’m impressed.
I am half danish half norwegian which is a bit like Jessica because the countries arent culturally that different to each other yet it still has a big impact on my upbringing and i find it really interesting how cultures can mix within a country and how family unites cultures and kind of creates a new one within a home. Very interesting video!
I'm a quarter korean (technically second generation born in the USA) and I am full blonde hair blue eyes and every time I tell someone it baffles them that I am asian and make homemade kimchi for fun. It warms my heart to hear how y'all wanna keep your kids connected to their cultures
I commented once on one of JKF's videos that I'm jealous of you both. You know each other in person. Two of my favorite channels. On a topical note my children are all half african american half white. I'm white, and being in the USA you see so much racism everyday. It's not easy to navigate it with kids. I tell people you won't prevent the names and comments. But you can hold your child through it and teach them to take those emotions and put them towards building a better world and activism so their kids won't have to experience these things.
@Mia Smith same I was like he has a TH-cam channel? XD
I'm Jewish, and between me and my nine siblings, we have such a wide range of ethnic features. Especially during the summer, it looks like my brother and I are different races
ohhh how so
My sisters neighbours are a mixed race family, they recently had a baby (who i met for the first time yesterday and omg he is so cute).
The mum is Scottish and the dad is African, the girls look like their dad and the boys look like their mum, but the baby at the moment is looking very mixed race and I was told his colouring may change as he grows up because he is only 6 weeks. I found that very interesting.
My niece is best friends with their 3 year old daughter, she always says "im not black, im not white, I am chocolate" which is super adorable.
This video was really insightful ♡
African is not a nationality
@@Lisa_Flowers it is what the guy calls himself so its what I says :)
It took me a while to realise the divider between them was a door.
I’m not sure how I feel about that.
It's because of Jessica ❤
It’s because Jessica needs to lip read
Mia Smith I'm sure they would be very careful, considering Jessica's health issues. That's not something to be casual about.
Mia Smith in their situation I'd be quarantining pre-emptively for a couple of weeks before seeing her. They haven't said what they did, but they're educated people.
As a member of a couple that isn’t inter-racial, but inter-faith, this was interesting. You’d never know from looking at us, but when we got together each of us had to learn in some depth the traditions and understandings of another religion. We love our little interfaith traditions ❤️
I love when all four of you get together, it looks like you really have a great friendship. Yes it is online and not everything we see is accurate but there is just something too the ease with which all four of you interact. Thank you for bringing some of these points up as they are definitely interesting to see and understand.
All four of you are great at helping us learn new points of view on topics we may not have thought about before. Truly wonderful content on all fronts.
So they're just gonna drop some iconicness on us like it's nothing? Cool just checking
I’m a french jew, when Jess started talking about that specific demographic I felt watched hahaa
I think that kids brought up from the LGBTQ+ communities and families of minorities will grow up to be more understanding. With more acceptance of people's love, this allows for more families that are not considered the "norm". And as such, I hope to see a newer generation that is less ignorant and more welcoming of others.
I love the four of you together!! Jessie and Claud is actually how I found yours and Jamie’s channels.
Love you Shaaba, but I just wanted to say that race is different from ethnicity. At the beginning ya'll kept talking about some who is jewish being with someone who is french. That's not a racially mixed couple, it's a ethnically mixed couple.
Juliana absolutely correct like she said Jewish and a race Jewish is a religion not a race ❣️
They were talking of genetically Jewish people, come from a long line of either Sephardic or Ashkenazi Jewish lines
Yeah! My mom is Jewish and my dad is a white guy (raised Christian but that isn't really relevant) and since they're both white I don't consider myself to be a mixed-race kid or that my parents are a mix-raced couple. Obviously there's a blending of cultures, but I wouldn't say races at all.
Not necessarily. My aunt is a white French (and Basque) woman, her husband is Algerian and jewish.
I agree. Race vs ethnicity is a very interesting subject, and for people who are Ashkenazi or Safardi there can be a thinner line between them.
This was really interesting! Felt like a more chilled roundtable discussion!
My favourite Collab constellation! Immediately left everything else and excited to watch now!
Same!
I was very impressed by the door/screen matching and eye contact before the set up was revealed XD
This was really great to watch, I hope you all do a collab again soon (and I will definitely be checking out their content)
Genes are weird. I'm a pale ginger and my ex was a blonde white guy, my baby came out with black hair and olive skin! Not what I expected at all lol.
I also think all men look the same.
I think all people look basically the same, I go purely on hair/beard and clothing to differenciate them.
@@baguettegott3409 i can tell the difference between faces but i cannot for the life of me describe facial features
@@k.sharma6104 same
lmao what
@@baguettegott3409 this gets hard when all 20 something white guys dress the same
Thank you guys so much for this video!! I’m in an interracial relationship and didn’t even process cause my girlfriend looks very white. I mean she tells me abt cultural things that are different then mine but my brain still didn’t make the connection somehow??? And I never thought abt raising kids from a culture stand point.-But this just got me so excited because now I get to go and learn abt a whole other side of her that I sadly hadn’t been paying enough attention to
This colab made me so happy!!
Videos like this are so rare right now and while I have been rewatching a lot of old colabs, having a new one is really great. Thanks a lot!
OMG THIS IS A *LEGENDARY* COLLAB AHHHHHH
I really enjoyed this! I’m in one of those intercultural relationships. I live in Sweden but grew up with and have kept up with a number of Russian traditions from my mother. My partner enjoys them - especially the food - and I sometimes forget which ones are ’normal’.
Jammidodger? More like Jamie Dodo
Bahhaha
Lol poor Jamie
The collaboration i didn't know i always wanted😭 love all of yall!
I love how y'all talked about not feeling a part of stuff and not looking mixed race cause I'm mixed and I've been told I'm not cause my skin is lighter like that had nothing to do with it at all. I love the conversation y'all had
being biracial is hard but it’s also really interesting and fun
I'm bi-ethnic and bicultural and yes, I agree
OMG THE COLLAB OF THE CENTURY
Hello from a mixed race Mauritian English cis female bisexual 👋
Omg! Another mixed race Mauritian!! Hi!!
🇲🇺 My human person is Mauritian with parents from very different Indian backgrounds & skin colours
I'm a biracial cis man in America. I'm black, swedish and dutch(white). Being biracial in America these days is WILD!
I am from the US and prior to seeing this video I had no idea what you meant by the “p word”, so I did my research. Some things I found said that the term is the equivalent of the n-word in the US, so I won’t be mentioning in this post. If you’re like me, look it up and educate yourself. In the US, this word isn’t generally seen as derogatory because we don’t hold the same historical roots to the term. Where I live, i’ve only heard it used when people are describing themselves as an abbreviation. However, there are definitely people in the US that would take offense to the term. I plan to tell my friends and family what I’ve learned, so that they are aware. Thank you for inspiring me to learn more about the history of racism outside of the US! Also, I think that it is important that we acknowledge these cultural differences so that we don’t misinterpret things and instead educate each other on these topics (:
Much love ❤️ keep doing what you do
Oh, I’m from Kentucky & Ive definitely heard the word & known it is a slur.
Didn’t realize it had more of a history in the UK, etc (tho that makes sense, as there are more Pakistani immigrants there & with the comment about Jamie’s parents, etc)
10:06 to 10:27 THIS 100%! When I went to Taiwan for the first time and met people from my mom's childhood I felt so much guilt for not being what I was supposed to be
I'm half Chinese Mauritian and I loved watching this! I also really relate to Claudia :)
I think it's also important to know that, as a mixed race raised in a 1st world country, your experiences of racism and xenophobia are very different from the stuggles people from your ethnicity suffer in their countries. Even though you suffer from your racial background in your rich country, you do not experience imperialism nor knows how it is to be a person of your ethnicity in their "original" country, so you do not have the full experience of being that race/ethnicity. Like, as a Latina from an actual latino country, i feel the gap between latinos in the US or in Europe and it is NOT the same, and latinos in those countries do NOT represent latinos in latin america, they are their own group of people.
OMG the st Lucia part 🤣🤣 "with candles on her head". I died
It's so cute how you both have one arm on your partners legs. Looks like there's a lot of trust und warmth. Every video with this cooperation is a delight
Hi Shaaba! I would love to hear you talk more about your Mauritian background if it’s something you would like to share more about. I’m white Australian but have Mauritian family history on my mum’s side and it’s something I would love to learn more about :)
this was lovely, so happy to see you all collaborate again and laugh together like that! also was interesting to listen to all this when I grew up in a very homogeneous culture
I love watching you guys talking about stuff, you can tell you all get along so well!
I would love to listen to a podcast with all four of you having good chats 😊
My husband and I are an interracial couple expecting our first child and we have been discussing all of these issues while we impatiently wait for this kid to be born. We have no idea what they will look like but are hoping for a mix! 😄
When picking a name, we definitely thought about it a lot. We thought it important that the name be something both families can pronounce. So we looked through hundreds of Dari/Persian names to find one that Americans would be able to pronounce. We hope that will make it easier for our baby to feel a part of both groups.
This was really lovey to watch. My partner and I are mixed race- he’s a dark skinned black man from Guyana, and I’m very white and American/Scottish.
Living in America, even though we live in a moderately diverse city, we still get a lot of racism directed at us while we’re out in town. And when finding a place to settle down, how diverse and chill the people are in that area is a big part of it.
While we won’t ever be having biological kids, talking about children and specifically what ethnicity of child we might want to adopt some day is something we really have to consider. Plus with us both having strong cultural ties, if that child was from a different culture than us the aspect of blending their original heritage in to their environment growing up so they don’t lose that is really important to us as well.
I appreciate that you guys are bringing up these topics that don’t get discussed enough, especially within the queer community💕
This is the power collab of the century. So much awesomeness in one room, how did the camera not explode?
THE COLLAB I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED ❤️
Always great to see you 4 together 💛
'I almost said I'm a cis man' god what a mood, esp as someone who passes so well. I do look 12 though... (I'm almost 16 :/)
I always love it when you 4 collab it’s so happy
*SQUEE!!!!* Two of my fav TH-cam couples getting together OMG 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩💖🧡💛💚💙💜 Thank you so much for this! I really LOVED to watch this and it was all wonderful! Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!!
Claudia is pregnant in this video!!!
I'm mixed race raised and living in Scotland. I'm half Bangladeshi and half Scottish but my Bangladesh side is quite obvious. Spent my entire life being called the P word and have people ask "but where are you REALLY from?!" When I would give Scotland as my answer. It's the only country and culture I've ever known so of course I'm going to answer I'm from Scotland 🤷 Also because my mum is white, like SO pale white, when she was out with me on her own as a kid, people would ask if she adopted me or even if she knew me(people thought maybe she stole someone else's kid). And if I ever played with the other mixed race kids outside, passerbys would assume we were all related and that our parents just had a ton of kids and they'd look down on us. People are more quick to realise my mum is my biological mum now, but it's still not their first thought lol
It was so lovely to see you guys hanging out again!! Please make more videos together if you can, I always immensely enjoy them!!! I love you all!!!!!
They're back yall!! Thanks Shaaba and Jamie!!! :)
I love when you four get together! You always have amazing discussions!
This is so cool. I love the representation in the room.
All your energies, some deep breathing and pressure points just brought me down from a nauseous episode - but mostly your beautiful wonderful selves, glad to stumble across something I didn't know I needed
Hey, little fun fact,, Judaism is not actually a race, its an ethnicity or a tribe. By referring to it as a race you can exclude mizrahi or sephardi Jews (or the Jews of many other races),, just heard that in the video so I thought I'd let you know
Well "race" is a blurry word anyways, because basically races don't biologically exist anyways.
But/and some jewish people are quite clearly genetically of the same people.
But yeah, "race" is quite a loaded word and a fiddly one.
As white woman who married a white Jewish man I definitely encountered some members of my husband’s family who referred to our relationship as interracial and it threw me for a bit since I considered our relationship a mixed faith one not an interracial one but there is definitely a commonly held belief that Jewish is a race within the Jewish community
@@LOSTNTH0UGHT Indeed. To be fair, many people don't fully consider the implications of just how loud and strong a "Jews are a different race form whites" message was sent in the 20th century (and still is, by certain... types of individuals). At least in the United States, there is the ethnicity of "Jewish" and the religious identification of "Jewish," and someone can be both, neither, or just one of the two. I suspect the fact that "Jewish" can refer to a religious group as well as an ethnic one, paired with the recent/ongoing discrimination, keeps the ethnic distinction alive.