Great review! One thing to add: I am right-handed, my wife is left-handed. It is really hard for a left handed person to use a Master meant for a right handed. The anywhere is more "universal" in that regard.
Used the Master 2s for a long time ever since its launch. It's been a great mice ever since I bought it from 2017. It was a great mousing companion after-all. I shared all the gestures and it beared it all. The thumb wrist button gave up and it also led to the side scroll wheel and the side buttons giving up. The master 3s was a great upgrade after all. It did overcome all the short-coming of the master 2s. Its everything I wanted on my Master mice. I was waiting for the master 2s to give-up like around 10 yrs but it gave up in the everyday use of 7 yrs and then upgrade to master 4. But I'm planning to keep the master 3s longer than 10 yrs and running. Hope it lasts that long before upgrading to the next master mice. The 2s was worth its price-tag when I bought. So I hope that the 3s can outlive the 2s. The app gesture controls and the smart actions are absolutely fantastic and useful. Now I kind of have more than a 100+ gestures in a single mouse only for various diff applications. Imagine with the mx keyboard, I can have a lot more. The smart actions were an absolute banger in my productivity. Once you started using, you can't go back without not using it.
I don't understand why Logitech removed the tilt wheel function. The tilt wheel offered more than just horizontal scrolling; it could also be used to quickly switch between desktops and tabs. I'm happy with my G604 and it's the last.
I can't install Logitech Options+ on my work PC as company IT wont allow it. Can I set it up on my personal PC and then switch the mouse to work PC? Can I still keep custom functions?
I'm not sure if it's the same as mine but I can't either. It can connect if your work PC has regular BT. You don't NEED to download the program but if your company blocks it you can't customize settings. It will just use the default windows setting for those extra buttons. Where I am at, you can reach out to tech department to ask them if you are allowed to and they might let you.
My 2s master is on its last legs, the rubber on the thumb rest is cracked and the left click sometimes double clicks lol, need an upgrade, been a fantastic mouse until recently though
Just considering to order a new office mouse as successor to my anywhere mx(1). The scroll wheel wears off from sweat, the switches accidently double klick (bounce), the outer rubber surface is worn down to the hard surface below. At home I do have a very old microsoft intellimouse explorer 3 from the last millenium. It still works like charm. No issue with the micro switches whatsoever. Only the gap for the scroll wheel needed to be enlarged somewhat, since the rubber wheel slightly grew over time. Also the thin rubber coating the outside needed to be removed. (It was easy to be scratched off). I don't like sticky surfaces, which are almost impossible to get rid of. No Idea why all logitech mice fail this early. Engraved micro switch marks at the stamp which pushes the switch in the first place. Poor switch quality as well? And inferior outside material which gets even more sticky and fails. More durable hardware would be important in order not to overuse the planet. We once had (or still have 😉).
Meanwhile I have pretty cheap wireless mice that are 15 and 20 years old and still look and work like they're new. And these 100$ new logi mice don't even last 5 years. That's bonkers and why all mice aside from gamer crap should use low power and a simple replaceable battery.
Thanks for comparing the click loudness! I wasn’t sure if my copy of the Anywhere 3S was slightly louder on purpose or if something was wrong. I agree with your comparison! I also really like the MX Master 3S’ ergonomics but also enjoy having the smaller size of the Anywhere 3S in my bag. Thanks!
They need to do a large version of Anywhere. A regular version. It'll be great! I just want a mouse with this same scroll as MX Master. I bought one and it's great, but the mouse is too heavy and big even for me with big hands.
I've used all the old Apple mice, from the original 1980s Macintosh mouse, to the Mighty Mouse of the early 2000s. I held them with my fingertips, my palm not touching them, and never had an issue. Then I switched to the Logitech M500s, which has a similar height and weight to the MX Master 3s, which forced me to adopt a palm grip, and after a few years, I started having numbness/circulation issues in my right hand. Now I am looking for a smaller, lower mouse which will allow me to use the fingertip grip I used to use (but not the Magic Mouse). I like the look of the MX Anywhere 3s, but I wish it were lighter, and more importantly, I don't want to deal with Logitech's high rate of button failure. I'll probably end up with a gamer mouse, but I'm not happy about them all being either boring looking, or worse, incredibly tacky.
I recently bought an Anywhere 2 at GoodWill for $5. great mouse but I'm Still deciding if I want to upgrade to the Anywhere 3s or Master 3s. Gotta try em both out at my local Best Buy again lol Thanks for the comparison.
I usually use the Pulsar X2 mini for gaming, but after buying the MX Master 3S and using it for work for a while, I've been experiencing a lot of pain in my wrist. Will it get better if I stick with it for a while longer, or should I switch to the MX Anywhere? Are these two scroll wheels the same? I really like infinite scroll, and I don't use side scroll wheels anyway.
Hold the button on the b bottom and the light will start to blink and put it in bluetooth pairing mode. then you should be able to go to your bluetooth settings on your device and add it.
I would love to like mx master 3s but I move my hand the way I need to move mouse by physically raising it. It’s not possible or very inconvenient with big brother. So I got Mx anywhere and couldn’t be happier. Also if someone on Mac please be aware that their logi options app is crap. Better get alternative like mos or steer mouse. They cost cheaper than McDonald’s…
Best Buy or Logitech's site should have them! www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-mx-anywhere-3s-wireless-bluetooth-fast-scrolling-mouse-with-programmable-buttons-black/6539506.p?skuId=6539506 @@michelletso
I work the mouse with my fingers whilst resting my wrist on the pad, so i guess the anywhere is the one for me and the bulky master is not suitable at all, right?
The Master definitely is! I recently bought it. Will be returning it and getting the Anywhere though. I'm a girl and the mouse is way too big for me, it actually hurts my wrists more and i can't reach the scroll wheel well. Defenitely not recommended if you have small to regular hands. I would consider mine a normal size for girls.
Is the bluetooth poll rate is only 90hz for both moues? That will cuase cursor to look laggy on screen on high refresh rate screens will it not? Can you test that please?
Seriously don't understand why they place the device switching button at the bottom. Ppl who would buy multi device mouse would be switching from device to device often.
wish i watched this before i purchased to S3. The mx anywhere 2 has way better clicky feedback upon pressing left and right mouse buttons. Just got the S3 out of the box and dont like the plastic dull and light click of it at all.
Sooooo I bought the Master 3S today----and I'm already considering returning it. It's a great mouse----but I can already feel my hand/wrist getting fatigued and having pain. ...which is weird, because I've used an Apple Magic Mouse for years. I might try the Anywhere 3S for Mac and see. Meh... Oh well.
@@wsellers If you hold the magic mouse the way it's meant to be held, it's a joy to use and doesn't require wrist rests or anything else. People either love it or hate it. Personally, I like it a lot. Sounds like it worked well for you too. Big tall mice suck. Unless they're vertical mice.
I don't think generalizations are helpful. I think it depends on each individual, their body and how they use and hold the device. For me and many others, the Apple Magic Mouse is wonderful to use. I don't even need a wrist rest. I think many people hold the device wrong. For me, I have more issues with taller mice.
A common issue with all these mouse is weak polling rage. All mice in 2024 should equipped with 100p0 Hz poling rate at least. I hope bluthooth 6 offer 1000 Hz poling rate
I'm anywhere s user since the beggining, and they all end with left click problems... kinda silly given this is meant as a business line of products... or i should be using a gamer mouse for better resiliance 😅
@@adamtalkstech Wait until the mouse is out of warranty. Logitech mice are notorious for premature button failure just out of the warranty period. Something about using the same switches they've used for decades, switches which were designed at a time when mice were less energy efficient, and have difficulty with modern, lower-current mice.
I was back to tell everyone I asked that I got it working on two laptops without having to continually rein-stall it, but someone deleted my question anyway. I guess they will delete this too. At least I tried to be thoughtful.
They are absolutely not the best. I love the look of them, the scroll wheels are great (master 3s), but that polling rate is horrendous for a mouse in that price range. Returned it after 2 days.
@@adamtalkstech TBH I'm still looking for something myself. However, the fact that a mouse in this price class is less responsive than my cheap old HP mouse (although that one is wired) is disappointing to say the least. Keychron m6 looks promising though. Offers a lot more features and better polling rate compared to Logitech and at a much lower price point. Logitech's design is great though, I still think no mouse looks better than the MX. I hate all the gamer style hardware.
@@Mizi08 If you use a monitor with high refresh rate you still notice the lagginess of this mouse even during productivity work. It's just not smooth. Remember that this is a 'top of the line' mouse. On top of that people experience the rubber getting sticky / coming off after a while, the scroll wheel being inconsistent, no built-in memory, and their software being absolute shit. Why do you need to keep a software running fulltime just to be able to change mouse settings? Lots of companies don't even allow employees to install software on their PCs, so those people cannot customize anything. Makes no sense for a productivity mouse either. And not everyone wants a gaming mouse. Gaming / RGB stuff tends to look horrible.
@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 I have the non-ms anywhere 3 for almost 2yrs now with little to no wear on the skates. I mostly used it for work when I need to go to office or client The skates were designed to be used on any surfaces including glass. My guess is that the users you're listening from a mostly using them on rough mousepads. These mousepads tends to favour glass skates. If I'm wfh I just use Razer Orochi. It's black matte with no "gamer lights". You just need to look harder
Great review! One thing to add:
I am right-handed, my wife is left-handed. It is really hard for a left handed person to use a Master meant for a right handed. The anywhere is more "universal" in that regard.
Great point that I didn’t think of.
Used the Master 2s for a long time ever since its launch. It's been a great mice ever since I bought it from 2017. It was a great mousing companion after-all. I shared all the gestures and it beared it all. The thumb wrist button gave up and it also led to the side scroll wheel and the side buttons giving up. The master 3s was a great upgrade after all. It did overcome all the short-coming of the master 2s. Its everything I wanted on my Master mice. I was waiting for the master 2s to give-up like around 10 yrs but it gave up in the everyday use of 7 yrs and then upgrade to master 4. But I'm planning to keep the master 3s longer than 10 yrs and running. Hope it lasts that long before upgrading to the next master mice. The 2s was worth its price-tag when I bought. So I hope that the 3s can outlive the 2s. The app gesture controls and the smart actions are absolutely fantastic and useful. Now I kind of have more than a 100+ gestures in a single mouse only for various diff applications. Imagine with the mx keyboard, I can have a lot more. The smart actions were an absolute banger in my productivity. Once you started using, you can't go back without not using it.
Really nice review, short and full of good information!
Glad you liked it!
I don't understand why Logitech removed the tilt wheel function. The tilt wheel offered more than just horizontal scrolling; it could also be used to quickly switch between desktops and tabs. I'm happy with my G604 and it's the last.
I can't install Logitech Options+ on my work PC as company IT wont allow it. Can I set it up on my personal PC and then switch the mouse to work PC? Can I still keep custom functions?
I'm not sure if it's the same as mine but I can't either. It can connect if your work PC has regular BT. You don't NEED to download the program but if your company blocks it you can't customize settings. It will just use the default windows setting for those extra buttons. Where I am at, you can reach out to tech department to ask them if you are allowed to and they might let you.
Is it forbidden for companies to use the Logitech software 🧐? I asked to the dept in charge of install software and he says it was ok lol
ask admin
My 2s master is on its last legs, the rubber on the thumb rest is cracked and the left click sometimes double clicks lol, need an upgrade, been a fantastic mouse until recently though
Wow. Time for the 3S!!
Just considering to order a new office mouse as successor to my anywhere mx(1). The scroll wheel wears off from sweat, the switches accidently double klick (bounce), the outer rubber surface is worn down to the hard surface below.
At home I do have a very old microsoft intellimouse explorer 3 from the last millenium. It still works like charm. No issue with the micro switches whatsoever. Only the gap for the scroll wheel needed to be enlarged somewhat, since the rubber wheel slightly grew over time. Also the thin rubber coating the outside needed to be removed. (It was easy to be scratched off). I don't like sticky surfaces, which are almost impossible to get rid of. No Idea why all logitech mice fail this early. Engraved micro switch marks at the stamp which pushes the switch in the first place. Poor switch quality as well? And inferior outside material which gets even more sticky and fails. More durable hardware would be important in order not to overuse the planet. We once had (or still have 😉).
Meanwhile I have pretty cheap wireless mice that are 15 and 20 years old and still look and work like they're new. And these 100$ new logi mice don't even last 5 years. That's bonkers and why all mice aside from gamer crap should use low power and a simple replaceable battery.
I found Master 3s very heavy to use , and it kind of I felt that my hand are getting tired, it is 141 grams versus anywhere 3s is 92 grams.
Sorry. Definitely heavier than other mice but doesn’t bug me
Thanks for comparing the click loudness! I wasn’t sure if my copy of the Anywhere 3S was slightly louder on purpose or if something was wrong.
I agree with your comparison! I also really like the MX Master 3S’ ergonomics but also enjoy having the smaller size of the Anywhere 3S in my bag. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!!
They need to do a large version of Anywhere. A regular version. It'll be great!
I just want a mouse with this same scroll as MX Master. I bought one and it's great, but the mouse is too heavy and big even for me with big hands.
I've used all the old Apple mice, from the original 1980s Macintosh mouse, to the Mighty Mouse of the early 2000s. I held them with my fingertips, my palm not touching them, and never had an issue. Then I switched to the Logitech M500s, which has a similar height and weight to the MX Master 3s, which forced me to adopt a palm grip, and after a few years, I started having numbness/circulation issues in my right hand. Now I am looking for a smaller, lower mouse which will allow me to use the fingertip grip I used to use (but not the Magic Mouse). I like the look of the MX Anywhere 3s, but I wish it were lighter, and more importantly, I don't want to deal with Logitech's high rate of button failure. I'll probably end up with a gamer mouse, but I'm not happy about them all being either boring looking, or worse, incredibly tacky.
I recently bought an Anywhere 2 at GoodWill for $5. great mouse but I'm Still deciding if I want to upgrade to the Anywhere 3s or Master 3s. Gotta try em both out at my local Best Buy again lol Thanks for the comparison.
Id get the master 3s and keep your anywhere 2 in your backpack so its always ready to go when traveling
Genius! Thanks again. I tried the Master 3s at best buy and it’s very, very comfortable.
The more you use it the more you will enjoy it too! @@demisemedia
Good channel with quality videos, thank you.
Thanks for watching! What should I review next?
@@adamtalkstech i don't know :)
I usually use the Pulsar X2 mini for gaming, but after buying the MX Master 3S and using it for work for a while, I've been experiencing a lot of pain in my wrist. Will it get better if I stick with it for a while longer, or should I switch to the MX Anywhere? Are these two scroll wheels the same? I really like infinite scroll, and I don't use side scroll wheels anyway.
What about Logitech lift?
How do I connect the MX Master 3S to iMac/Mac Book Pro (Windows in use)? I am using 2S and it came with the BT adaptor!
Hold the button on the b bottom and the light will start to blink and put it in bluetooth pairing mode. then you should be able to go to your bluetooth settings on your device and add it.
I would love to like mx master 3s but I move my hand the way I need to move mouse by physically raising it. It’s not possible or very inconvenient with big brother. So I got Mx anywhere and couldn’t be happier.
Also if someone on Mac please be aware that their logi options app is crap. Better get alternative like mos or steer mouse. They cost cheaper than McDonald’s…
Is the Anywhere 3s shown in this video Black or Graphite?
Black anywhere graphite master
@@adamtalkstech where did you purchase the black anywhere from? i cant seem to find it in black only graphite
Best Buy or Logitech's site should have them! www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-mx-anywhere-3s-wireless-bluetooth-fast-scrolling-mouse-with-programmable-buttons-black/6539506.p?skuId=6539506 @@michelletso
I work the mouse with my fingers whilst resting my wrist on the pad, so i guess the anywhere is the one for me and the bulky master is not suitable at all, right?
Yeah it might work better for you
Hello. Are the keys quieter the same? I use the Anywhere 3S and it is louder than most mice. Is it like this in Master 3S?
Anywhere 3S and Master 3S area bout the same volume
@@adamtalkstech Thank you very much. :)
Thanks. Great info. I really like your review style - right to the point.
Glad you enjoyed it!
so are you saying using Master 3S in mac. i can switch between windows like 3 franger gesture?
Yes!
great stuff, thanks! very helpful.
I’m glad it helped!
Why did you test just mx master click noise? It would be better if you can also share 3s click noise in video.
Good question I made this video over a year ago they are the same volume
One question, are they what they would call silent mouse?
The Master definitely is! I recently bought it. Will be returning it and getting the Anywhere though. I'm a girl and the mouse is way too big for me, it actually hurts my wrists more and i can't reach the scroll wheel well. Defenitely not recommended if you have small to regular hands. I would consider mine a normal size for girls.
I had the master 3s for only two days, not for me. Pain in my wrist, hand sweeting. The "ergonomic" design was too bulky for me.
That’s too bad. What mouse are you using instead?
@@adamtalkstech for now, the trackpad of my macbook. But I will try the little one anywhere 3s.
@@luisedgarvillagran2087 i've had pain wrist due to trackpad sold it almost instantly.
same shit, returning it. Did you end up getting anywhere 3s?
@@Volyna1989 no, I tryed but neither. I decided for the elecom egx pro.
Is the bluetooth poll rate is only 90hz for both moues? That will cuase cursor to look laggy on screen on high refresh rate screens will it not? Can you test that please?
Correct. it is stuck at 90 hz on mac. I don't use high refresh screens so I hadn't tested that.
125 hz on windows
@@adamtalkstech so those are not really recommended for mac?
Seriously don't understand why they place the device switching button at the bottom. Ppl who would buy multi device mouse would be switching from device to device often.
I think so it doesn’t get whacked on accident
Choose the M720 instead, it's a budget master 3 with the switch button at the right place.
@@falvesc Thanks for the recommendation.
Which one has less Bluetooth lag?
I believe they are identical
durability rubber grip?
Some have issues with it. Mine have been fine but I don’t eat at the computer.
wish i watched this before i purchased to S3. The mx anywhere 2 has way better clicky feedback upon pressing left and right mouse buttons. Just got the S3 out of the box and dont like the plastic dull and light click of it at all.
Yeah the S in logitech models typically stands for silent.
If you have an iPad, the vaunted Logi Options+ app will NOT work on your device. It won’t even download. You’ll be stuck with the default settings.
Yup very true.
good job ADAM!
I bought the master 3s. Terrible ergonomics. wrist gets tired. and the weird height digs into your hand and finger.
Sooooo I bought the Master 3S today----and I'm already considering returning it. It's a great mouse----but I can already feel my hand/wrist getting fatigued and having pain. ...which is weird, because I've used an Apple Magic Mouse for years. I might try the Anywhere 3S for Mac and see. Meh... Oh well.
@@wsellers If you hold the magic mouse the way it's meant to be held, it's a joy to use and doesn't require wrist rests or anything else. People either love it or hate it. Personally, I like it a lot. Sounds like it worked well for you too. Big tall mice suck. Unless they're vertical mice.
MX Master 3S = Full size battleship
MX Anywhere 3S = Starship fighter.
nice one, thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!
I don't think generalizations are helpful. I think it depends on each individual, their body and how they use and hold the device. For me and many others, the Apple Magic Mouse is wonderful to use. I don't even need a wrist rest. I think many people hold the device wrong. For me, I have more issues with taller mice.
It really does depend on user preference
Great Video Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Hello fellow Vulfpeck enjoyer (2:56).
I’ve been waiting months for someone to notice 😄
of course this doesn't exist in left hander version either...why wolud it be... :(
A common issue with all these mouse is weak polling rage. All mice in 2024 should equipped with 100p0 Hz poling rate at least. I hope bluthooth 6 offer 1000 Hz poling rate
The other plus with the anywhere mouse is the fact the top is more plastic, and probably doesn't get sticky over time. I HATE that Logitech. WTF.
That’s a good point
@@adamtalkstech yeah that is the biggest reason I stopped buying them MX Series. Going to try the anywhere one for a bit.
I'm anywhere s user since the beggining, and they all end with left click problems... kinda silly given this is meant as a business line of products... or i should be using a gamer mouse for better resiliance 😅
Bummer, still rocking my Master 3S and it's crushing it for me about 6 months later.
@@adamtalkstech Wait until the mouse is out of warranty. Logitech mice are notorious for premature button failure just out of the warranty period. Something about using the same switches they've used for decades, switches which were designed at a time when mice were less energy efficient, and have difficulty with modern, lower-current mice.
I was back to tell everyone I asked that I got it working on two laptops without having to continually rein-stall it, but someone deleted my question anyway. I guess they will delete this too. At least I tried to be thoughtful.
Good job! I think I saw your comment yesterday, not sure where it went.
2:04 same as the 3s
They are absolutely not the best. I love the look of them, the scroll wheels are great (master 3s), but that polling rate is horrendous for a mouse in that price range. Returned it after 2 days.
What do you recommend?
@@adamtalkstech TBH I'm still looking for something myself. However, the fact that a mouse in this price class is less responsive than my cheap old HP mouse (although that one is wired) is disappointing to say the least.
Keychron m6 looks promising though. Offers a lot more features and better polling rate compared to Logitech and at a much lower price point. Logitech's design is great though, I still think no mouse looks better than the MX. I hate all the gamer style hardware.
Ummm these are clearly productivity mouse so there's no need for high polling rate? Get a separate gaming mouse instead
@@Mizi08 If you use a monitor with high refresh rate you still notice the lagginess of this mouse even during productivity work. It's just not smooth. Remember that this is a 'top of the line' mouse.
On top of that people experience the rubber getting sticky / coming off after a while, the scroll wheel being inconsistent, no built-in memory, and their software being absolute shit.
Why do you need to keep a software running fulltime just to be able to change mouse settings? Lots of companies don't even allow employees to install software on their PCs, so those people cannot customize anything. Makes no sense for a productivity mouse either.
And not everyone wants a gaming mouse. Gaming / RGB stuff tends to look horrible.
@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 I have the non-ms anywhere 3 for almost 2yrs now with little to no wear on the skates. I mostly used it for work when I need to go to office or client The skates were designed to be used on any surfaces including glass. My guess is that the users you're listening from a mostly using them on rough mousepads. These mousepads tends to favour glass skates. If I'm wfh I just use Razer Orochi. It's black matte with no "gamer lights". You just need to look harder