⚠️ *For all those with no issues, (or for those Illuminati 5G lizard alien conspiracy theorists who might try to deny the issues exist👽), Take a look at these lost mx master souls to see how lucky you are* - www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter Also, even MKBH mentions connection issues. See his studio tour from 6 minutes onwards; th-cam.com/video/cxp-FCDUkNc/w-d-xo.html
As a say in another reply below: I solved this completely with my Logitech M720 by putting the receiver on a USB extension cable about a metre away. Perfect since I did this.
There are umpteen unboxing videos and reviews on this product. I haven't seen anybody mention connectivity issues. You saved me time and money. Thanks!
I have MX Master 3 for Mac. I used it on my old iMac and it was great. Now I have the MAc Studio and it's a nightmare. The biggest issue is that the scroll wheel often stops working. Sometimes every day or a few times per day. Sometimes it works for a whole week. Then suddenly it stops. Total pain. I would scroll to the bottom of the comments to see if anyone else has these problems, but of course the scroll wheel has stopped working....
I got the MX Master 3 and an M1 Mac Mini and don’t have these issues. I’m assuming this has been corrected already. I don’t have any connection issues in any way anymore. Very comfortable mouse and very good performance now. I suggest everyone gives it a try again
BUYER BEWARE - If you have an M1 Mac, DO NOT BUY this mouse (March 2022). I never comment on TH-cam, but just like the uploader I feel so strongly about the issues with the MX Master 3 on M1 Mac that I have to say something. I work in IT and believe me when I say this has been the most frustrating peripheral and software experience I've ever had. It's utterly infuriating that a mouse that is marketed specifically for a Mac, and that is so expensive, is so broken and unsupported. This isn't something that can be fixed on our end, it's something that Logitech must recognise and provide a fix for in both Firmware and Software (assuming it's not a hardware incompatibility). Logitech has not provided any meaningful support or fix in the last 15 months, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you think that's going to change. I've returned my mouse and would advise anyone considering purchasing it to look elsewhere until Logitech brings out a new model.
M1 Macbook Air, MX Master 3 user here. If you are a mac user unistall logitech software and get SteerMouse. I've had similar issues, most annoying was intermittent horizontal scrolling. Absolutely random on and off, 2 seconds here, 5 seconds there and because horizontal scroll was one of the main reasons I went for mx master 3, I started to look for the solution. Logitech support is a joke. Once I uninstalled all logitech software I realised that all the issues disapeared so it's not hardware incompatibility. Of course after uninstalling logitech software I couldn't customize buttons and scrolls the way I like, but then I've found SteerMouse. Way more ways to customize scrolls and buttons and no issues anymore.
I use the Magic Mouse 2 with iMac, do have an mx master 2s aswell but I like the swiping between pages/tabs etc that the Magic Mouse allows you to do on macOS . Maybe not very comfy to use but I like the functionality of it
I had the same issue with my series 1 and it had the same lag on my Intel Mac, it’s not an M1 issue it’s a Logitech issue . Also had lag issues on various windows laptops, Logitech support was as usual useless, for the price I’d expect a product that works. I feel many TH-camrs don’t use the products they review and yes they do get caught up in MX fever
Using the M720. The thumb click for mission control is awesome. Really handy for all the windows I constantly need to switch through. I also have the mx master 2S but I prefer the M720's thumb click. Great review!
I am pretty much in the same situation . I own a macbook air m1 and so far i tried the logitech mx master 3 , orochi v2 , magic mouse 3 , microsoft bluetooth mouse and the logitech g203. I have tried bluetooth and the 2.4ghz dongle and yea...the dongle is a little better but is not smooth all the time. Every single one of them work ...but not reliable. Not like they work in windows. Pls do a follow up video if u find new alternatives and thank you for your hard work !
With the USB receiver, the MX Master 3 worked flawlessly for me. I can't say the same for MX Master 3s, though. They've introduced this new "Logi Bolt" receiver, and the experience is lacking so far. I think there are no issues with tracking, but the Bolt software on MACOS is half-baked and doesn't allow changing the DPI.. Or anything, for that matter. "Logitech Options" is quite solid, though.
@@aditya3n Right now i use a razer cobra pro with my macbook pro. I use it with its included dongle and it feels almost as good as it is on windows. I use a few helping programs on mac like mac mouse fix and linear mouse but i got it to a point where the mouse feels as good on mac as it is on windows. I am happy with how it feels now .
Me too. I had a terrible adventure with mx3 mouse. Now I use a Magic Mouse 2. Just because it is sexy on my desktop and works. But I am thinking about switching back to Windows. I need a good mouse.
So the 2 mice I have are the MX Master 2S for my work desktop & the Magic Mouse 2 for my Mac Mini, totally agree with you about Magic Mouse in terms of the Goddawful ergonomics, the functionality of it is fantastic but anything more than a couple of hours cripples my hand/wrist. Never had a problem with the MX Master, but then I’ve never tried using it on my Mac
If you're still interested in the question, I use a MX Master 3 with a Macbook Pro 16 Intel (2020 model I think) using native bluetooth (no universal receiver). Been using it since 2021 and had no issues.
A MacBook m1 user here! Can anyone recommend me a good mouse for small hands? (Hand length around 16cm). - Palm/Claw grip - Use for mostly productivity with some gaming (not too heavy and slow) Much thanks!
Great review. I have also spent hours in trying to get my Logitech mice MX master 1 and 3 to work with my MacBook Pro 16 inch with the new processor. Now I use the external trackpad and is planning to buy the magic mouse too although the ergonomics are bad - but it works.
I'm at the same crossroads, I have had the Logitech MX Vertical mouse for over a year, I like it but I have the same problems on my Macbook pro M1, they have been partially solved with the unifier, it's not perfect at all, super annoying because it's an expensive mouse. Today the wheel has stopped working, I've tried to repair it and nothing worked!! As a graphics designer, I need an ergonomic mouse, so I was thinking to opt for the MX Master, but I don't want to have the same problems, especially if it doesn't even come with unifying. I hope we find some other similar mouse that is not Logitech, I really need it!! Thank you for the informative video, subscribing
Glad someone talks about this issue. I bought the MX Master 3S for my MacBook M1 Pro and I was totally disappointed by the way it moves the cursor. If I try to make small circles with my trackpad it is totally smooth. With the MX Master, it is totally jittering. Find that very unpleasant and inconvenient to work, because hitting buttons on screen is impaired comparing with the trackpad. Even though I never experienced these jumps you had on yours. Sent my first back to Amazon and my new one is a bit better, but I think I'll try to use an external USB transmitter as you advised. Or I'll get my self an Apple mouse and try to use it plugged in ;)
I have had the 1 for years, working fine. Recently after a couple of months with my new Mac Studio selection and other things became quite erratic. Bought the MX3 for Mac in order to solve this but could not even establish contact with Bluetooth. Saw your post and decided to return it immediately. Looking for a good alternative now
I found a solution to the Logitech mouse issue with the Mac Studio... if you use a USB-C to lightning converter to connect your mouse's USB receiver to then there are no issues. If you connect it to the USB C port, there's all kinds of skipping, lag, it's terrible... there is no disruption when you connect the receiver to the adaptor in the lightning port. 🐁
I like the Apple Trackpad better than the Apple mouse because I'm use to using a trackpad with my Macbook. Also it has more features. And you can use it while it's charging.
@@StusReviewsUK sorry, I edited my comment before seeing this one lol. I’m not upset _and_ I don’t agree, as I’ve never had any of these issues. The only issue I’ve had is every so often the scrolling wheels stop working until I turn it off and back on. That happens with Mac or Windows, no matter what computer I connect it to. But I’ve had it for many years, so I think it might just be coming to the end of its life.
Really! Interesting! You’re lucky then! Keep doing what you’re doing, because it’s obviously working👌👌. As for the scrolling issue, not something I’ve come across yet!
Not sure why but my MX Master seems to work fine. No stuttering, and it charges via USB from the Mac fine (also m1 max chip). I'm still replacing it with an MMO mouse for video editing, both because I don't like the ergos myself, and because the battery life and button placement aren't great. Also, many mice I've used have SIDE scrolling with the main wheel. Just push it to one or the other side and viola. I'm not sure if it would not work for some reason or other, but I know my Razor Naga has side scrolling and it's awesome in DaVinci.
great review,i find the best mouse is the logitech M510 mouse and just bought a second mouse is the Logitech K650 L but prefer the weight of the 510 anf like using the unifying receiver ,but the 650 has the newer bolt unifying receiver and the scroll wheel is a tad better than the 510.Good god ,back in the 70's we would refer to 510 as the datsun 510 can which won many rally's back in the old days.Also, I'm not a fan of the magic mouse or keyboard and 3 mac keyboards but prefer Logitech's.
I use the wired Logitech MX 518 and G400 on the Mac Studio with Sonoma 14.1.1. Both mice actually worked well until Ventura. With the last Sonoma update, however, the problems started. When moving objects on the desktop, they keep getting stuck. They can be moved, but these delays are annoying. When I work with Adobe programs, there are display problems with the cursor and some tools. When work palettes are moved, they drag slowly as if on a rubber band. This was not the case before Sonoma. However, if I use the Magic Mouse, which is connected to the Mac via Bluetooth, I don't have these problems. Very strange. But I think the Magic Mouse is a real ergonomic disaster. It doesn't matter whether I use the two Logitech mice with the Logitech software or with the universal driver USB Overdrive - the problems occur in both cases. I already suspected that Apple might be deliberately preventing the use of third-party mice. But that is certainly wrong.
I guess I was super lucky cause I have never had such issues with my MacBook pro M2 max with the Mx Master 3 Also, I know I'm playing devil's advocate but the reason the magic mouse has the charger upside down IS because they want people to use it wireless, so the wire doesn't stretch and hang with the computer, comparatively the keyboard/Trackpad doesn't move like the mouse does, they stay stationary because of which there's no practical determent to having them plugged in while charging but the mouse does. (Although I do agree with the ergonomics part)
I've been using the Logitech MX Master 1 from 2016 with my iMac / iPad Pro with zero issues. No dongle. No jitter. It just works. I don't use an M1 chip yet though.
Hey Stu! Thanks for the honest review. Unfortunately I saw this video too late. I got myself the MX 3S for Mac, but I'll try to return it. Do you have any suggestion for another bluetooth mouse I could try out?
I have a similar problem, I own a Microsoft mouse and I use mac. The mouse was working perfectly until 8 months ago. I tried a second brand new mouse same computer and different computer. Same results. My theory is, apple updated something in osx and just f**** up their bluetooth module for third party devices. Is same problem, lagging, jittery etc… This doesn’t happens with the magic mouse.
Excellent video. I am using a logitech g600 at the moment and I have been on the fence about the mx master sinces its a good fit for me but given the issues discussed I’ll have to wait / consider alternatives
Warning: Long post Here’s my experience. I’m using a MacBook Air M1 with an external monitor and keyboard and Magic Mouse, iPad Gen 7, and an HP windows PC. For various reasons I am not willing to trash the Microsoft OS machine and the apps I am using there. The PC usage is with a K350 BT keyboard and M510 BT mouse. Both have been easy to use and very dependable, with long battery life (for me). My complaint after I got my Macbook was the constant shuffling of keyboards and mice when switching from one to the other. My prospective solution was an MX Keys and the MX3 mouse. Shortly after receiving both, I discovered Apple’s Universal Display feature. What a game-changer. Now the keyboard and Apple mouse can be used on both my M1 and iPad. Seamless usage, in my opinion. Super easy to use those two peripherals on the Apple devices. And the keyboard easily communicates with the PC when I need it. So now I have one keyboard, instead of two. Unlike you, I’m not yet disgusted with the Magic Mouse. It serves my needs well enough, but of course doesn’t work with the PC. So, should I open and use the MX3? Well, I agree with you about many of the annoyances with that rodent. And, the M510 has not failed me over several years, so why trash it? If I switched to the MX3, I would be “flipping the switch” back and forth when switching machines anyway, so why waste that US$99, simply for more buttons that I may or may not make use of? Besides, I think it is a bit ugly. So, I sent the unopened mouse back to Amazon for a refund, but kept the MX Keys. Superb keyboard for my usage, with easy switching among machines, long battery life in my experience, but a bit pricey at $120. When switching to the PC, I throw one switch on the keyboard and pick up the M510 and “Away we go” as Ralph Cramden used to say. One keyboard on my desk, and two mice. Plenty of room now. You asked for it, and that’s my take on the subject. Thanks for the video, and your well-considered opinion.
Its been nearly 7 years and im still on my mx master original in which i brought for £80 pounds and loved it ever since. Yes there are issues which is outlined in the video but its still pretty good.
The MX Master 3 was my first BT mouse for my Mac Mini M1. I had the exact same problems as you and it's still not fixed. Even the cheaper MX Vertical runs smoother on my system which is crazy. I currently use the wired version of the kensington trackball (expert version) and like it. But it's still not the perfect solution for me. I'll try the Razer Deathadder 2 next and then the MadCatz R.A.T 8+
@@sebastiantrauter2368 I really don't understand what this rant is about.. the guy in the vid is just ranting instead of doing proper research if the hardware is a good fit for his usecase.. then it doesn't work and he goes online to rant about it, only likes comments where others say the product is crap.. While he could've just used his brain in the first place and ask himself if he really needs this mouse for his usecase, which clearly is a NO because he's ranting about it not having a wire, completely missing the point why you want to buy this mouse. Then instead of being aware of the crappyness of Apple hardware: bluetooth sucks. He goes and blames Logitech for the incompetent and highly overpayed QA engineers at Apple clearly not doing their job to validate the Bluetooth connectivity. The whole solution is simple: pair with the bolt USB dongle. If he would complain about Logitech not using USB-C for the bolt dongle: then yes he would've had a point. Maybe he did, didn't watch the video anymore after the 7 minute mark..
@@meh8099 his arguments are pretty much right I would say. I mean if Logitech brings something on the market and then also brings out specific mac versions of that product, the customer can expect a fully functional product right? If Bluetooth would be the only reason why the MX is not working correctly, there would be nothing that Logitech could do since it's an Apple problem. But I guess it's not just the Bluetooth. Other Logitech products work way better (MX Vertical for example) and the magic mouse 2 has no problems at all (except the shitty form factor 😅). So the rant is basically about companies that release unfinished products and about yay sayers that are either sponsored or are on the hype train because not many have something negative to say about the MX. Maybe their expectations are way lower but from a neutral point of view, the MX Master 3 is (was) way overpriced for what it can do. It's a different story now since the newer version is on the market but it almost took me 2 years to get used to the MX with it's issues and i'm not using logi options anymore since the software is just not what it could be. All in all the point of the video was to show people, that the product has some issues under certain circumstances and that it's definitely NOT the new standard mouse for professionals, creatives or powerusers. I was blinded by all these good reviews and was disappointed when I got my MX. That's why I find negative reviews way more helpful than the positives tbh 😅
I had to buy a new keyboard and mouse as was given a mac for work. Have had an MX Master in the past and it worked fine for years until the charging contacts died. This time I bought a logitech triathlon mouse and keyboard set. Not particularly happy with the keyboard and had similar issues to those you mentioned with the unifying receiver. In the end they are both now running on bluetooth. Wasn't sure if it was something to do with it having to go theough a usb a to usb c hub or that Mac's (in my opinion) have an inferior operating system. The mouse is just ok, not really what you need for your role but for general office it is fine. I needed the ability to swap between machines which is why I bought the set. Mac/PC/Pi.
I do have a logitech MX master 2. But i always revert to my Apple Magic mice. It just works better. It's nice for scrolling, (especially sideways on the internet.) Or on the time line in Logic Pro X & Final Cut Pro X. So the logitech MX master 2 lays here in one of my drawers as a back up for when my AMM battery is low and i need to charge it. Then i will usually take out the MXM 2 or i just take my Apple Magic trackpad 2. So i'm still in search of a good mice. But also for a good keyboard that works nicely on my Mac. I've been looking to the Keychron keyboard's (with numpad) but i've recently heard their mice's are pretty good as well. So i'm going to look a bit more into that. I personally do like gaming keyboard's as well. Especially the Corsair/Logitech915 & the SteelSeries Apex Pro Keyboards really appeal to me. But i know that the compatibility with a Mac isn't good with those gaming keyboards as they are made for Windows. I do think my only option is either the Keychron or go with a Logitech MX Keys. I would like to try out a mechanical keyboard. Preferably "half height." I'm not sure which switch i'm going for. Though i do think it will either be a red or brown one. I don't have any other experience with this. But those 2 switches looks most interesting to me.
When I am not using my Wacom tablet, I am sharing an MX Master 3 with both my M1 MacBook Pro laptop and iMac 27, both running Ventura. I find the MX3 to be extremely comfortable to use...WHEN IT'S WORKING! When I am on my iMac, it is not uncommon for the MX3 to lose its Bluetooth connection. I actually came here to see if you had a fix. I don't have a noticeable lag, but for graphics work, I pretty much only use the Wacom. I'm not a gamer, but could see why a lag would suck. The Magic Mouse is a joke for anything beyond surfing the Internet or doing some writing.
I just bought a Logitech G604 hoping to solve the skipping cursor issue which it did with DPI settings and report sensitivity. What really is driving me crazy is that G Hub software, and Logi Options wont hold their settings you program in. Hit the button, nothing happens. Check your settings, yep still there. This is on my 2012 intel mac mini. Very flaky and beyond absurd. Apple bears a lot of blame in not providing a full range of OEM mice for their computers.
I think the connectivity on the MBPs are much better than the max mini, although if you’re unlucky like me, the non optimised software which is running through Rosetta will cause you problems 👀
I miss buttons & bezier control points/nodes all day and had to enable the Windows feature that automatically puts the cursor over a button, or I would be much slower in general. The device software Options is awful and doesn't let you assign custom commands to buttons in the same was as the gaming mice like the G502 (a MUCH better mouse for anything). There are no features on this mouse for designing and making a precise selection in PhotoShop makes me wanna break things, as it'll go too big/too small/too big. So inaccurate! And if you wanna control 2 PCs/Macs, use the Synergy app, so you can use a keyboard, too and control Linux/Mac/PCs with the same K/M with only software via your network. No more pressing a button on the bottom of the mouse (stupid placement), you just scroll from one PC's screen to another!
honestly, i've been so dissatisfied with available choices for mac first keyboard and mouses that i just resorted to using almost only my mac's built in keyboard and touchpad (even for gaming, when i do), and it works well for me. i know you've mentioned that using the magic trackpad strains your hands, so i don't think that would work for you. it kind of sucks that short of logitech there's not many good high quality mice that are also not completely gaming focused.
Don't remember why, but as an aging boomer, with very basic use-needs to say the least, ended up using an old Apple corded mouse plugged into the back of my 27"imac via usb... I also got tired of going the bluetooth route with the keyboard so I have my mini apple magic board plugged in usbc (?) as well... that's 2 ports taken; so what (in my case). ... ... I'm getting a new M1 Mini with the Studio Display (as soon as they can send it) but CAN"T FIND A "GOOD basic MOUSE"... they don't seem to even sell these anymore. PS: the reason was the frequent disconnection problems with bluetooth... Has that improved over the last 5+ years???
I have the same issues with Logitech intermittence/incompatibility. And frustrated at the money wasted on them. I now use a trackpad on my left hand, since I use the Pencil and iPad a lot to scribble notes with the right. I'm thinking I might tolerate the Magic Mouse for the right hand for the minority time I spend doing more drag & drop work or fine work - which the trackpad isn't so great for. If I have issues with the Magic Mouse, I might try the Mello silicone cushion for it. One of Apple's great deficiencies is that sometimes they seem to believe their own hype about their design capabilities.
This is what Logitech says about designing products for Apple devices! 🤔 “ Logitech accessories just go with Apple® experiences - and that’s completely by design. In fact, we’ve been designing for, and sometimes with, Apple for over a decade. The result is a suite of tools that elevate every Apple experience with more functionality, more customization, and more comfort. Now, that’s what we call magic.”
I've been using a Logitech M570 with a MacPro since 2008. I had to replace it after 6 years. Since its replacement in 2020. At the moment I am using the M570 with the unifying receiver on a dongle/adapter for my MBP M1 Max. I don't like having bluetooth on constantly. Why Logitech hasn't at least made and included a unifying receiver with usb-c after all these YEARS is utterly mystifying. There is of course the lack of wired usage which you have already made express mention of. I could have opted for the M575 which also can connect via bluetooth. I already have another cheap ($30 USD) ergonomic mouse connecting via usb or bluetooth, which I use with my tablet or phone. All these considerations and shortcomings, I apply to Logitech's keyboards as well when operating on Apple Silicon. There's more similar nonsense I could expose about both Apple and Logitech, but I'd rather use my time much more productively. Have a great day sir, and keep up the honest and to-the-point(s) reviews. Thumbs up simply for using the expression "chinwag" - which I first heard from my Kiwi friend several years ago. 😁
I have an MX Master ii paired with my Surface Book at home and an MX Master iii paired with a MacBook Pro for work... I've not experienced any of the issues you have. Main reason I have them is ergonomics... Not really interested in allot of the extra functions, but I do like the super speed of the scroll wheel on the ii!
I love the magic mouse have been using it for years with no problems, I'm thinking on buying the MX master 3s for a couple of reasons, 1 use 2 machines during the day a Macbook Pro, and a custom build PC running Linux and rarelly windows. the fact that I can change from 1 device to another with the same keyboard and the mouse follows. I may not having the same issues with the mouse as mine is still intel based. If I could use my magic mouse across all my systems I would with a shadow of a doubt. :) This to say there are use cases for these products, easily change machines, copy and paste files between 2 systems like Mac and Windows (not sure this one works with linux)... I know I'm kind of a special case in terms of use but those features are exactly the reason I'm thinking on buying the MX keys + MX mastes 3s and stop having 2 keyboards and mice on the top of my desk :)
forget about any wireless mouse in today's Mac's. You will only have accuracy with the magic mouse or with a wired mouse. unfortunately. I have the same need as yours because I use a win machine and another macbook 16"max. I already have mouse collections
I've got the Logitech MX Master 3S and Macbook pro M1, Ventura and have been trying to figure out why the mouse is so laggy especially when I'm using google meet or zoom with an external camera plugged in it becomes unsable. Sounds like I have wasted my money
"Glorious model o" with WIRE! And I'm done with the mouse thing. Light, accurate, perfect. I'm probably the only one who needs perfection and not lots of buttons, whiteness, no middle wheel, "ergonomics" wireless, you name it. "Glorious model o" is and will be. MAC devices excluded from start.
So which mouse would you recommend? I’m experiencing all the issues you mentioning lol. I was tryna get the master 3s but I think I’m done with logintech.
I am using range of Logitech mice: G604 and G602 notably. On other computer I am using Rapoo MT750 pro, and I have one wired SteelSeries mice, can't remember model..
I get this issue on an older Mac (2015 MBP) on Mojave 10.14.6, but it was working since i got it over a year ago ... Working on upgrading to Big Sur or Monterey and wondering if i will still have the same issue. I see the site says MX compatibility is above where i am currently. ... I am using the MX Veritical mouse and full keyboard. I am getting disconnect issues most recently in the past week on both the keyboard and mouse. The only thing different that i have done is use a docking station, but I am using the built-in bluetooth (no usb wireless 2.4 MHz). Tried it though and did not help. Not sure if it was an update or something else. ... Thanks for the video. #Gitters #MouseJump
I just purchased a M-chip Mac and my Logitech (m510) mouse with unifying receiver also has jitter/lag :( When you're a software engineer this is a serious issue.
Aaargh, again that Magic Mouse "weird choice to put the charging port at the bottom" discussion again ... The Magic Mouse is designed with swiping gestures in mind. For comfortable swiping the surface has to be as low as possible. Hence the low design. Putting a port at the front or back conflicts with that design, because then you have to raise the surface to make room for the port. The battery life is very long. You get a warning when it's low, so you have all the time and opportunity to charge it. If you ignore the warnings and run out, then a 5 minute charge (the time to get a coffee) is enough to get another 3 hours. Yes, the Magic Mouse isn't suitable for continuously using it many hours in a row. Most people don't do that. Stu isn't in the "most people" usage group. But that doesn't mean it's a bad mouse. I think it's a great mouse. It's not a "one size fits all" mouse. I personally hate / dislike the large mouses like the MX ones. I understand that they're great for some people. But not for me. So, please stop complaining about the port at the bottom. Just get a mouse that suits your work scenario. Aargh!
MX Master 2s, on windows 11 I have not seen any problems I've had in for just over 1year, and you can use it wired on mine if you have the charger into the coputer
There’s a difference between using it on charge and using it as a wired connection… these mice don’t support wired connection. And I think these issues are potentially related to mac only.
I don't use a mouse with my Apple M1 laptop, I have got bad arthritis in my hands, unfortunately. I am thinking about getting an Apple Magic Trackpad, to make my life easier. What do you think, can you think of any cheaper alternatives for myself?
You might find the trackpad just as bad. I found that using one with an imac i would get 'claw hand' quite quickly, and my palm would start to ache... but everyone is different! Fortunately apple have a great 14 day return policy 😉
Logitech's gaming mice are well known to have double click issues as well. I don't think I can reasonably buy another Logitech mouse and not feel like I've been robbed. They make the best mice on the market, but at the same time I can't help but feel the opposite
I use a $13 mouse from Amazon. It looks very similar to Magic Mouse, however, that fixes 2 design flaws: 1: Charger is at the front and you can charge and use at the same time. 2: MM has that touch gesture "touchpad" on its too which constantly false registering scroll events. And it cannot even be disabled. So annoying. Anyways, that cheap Noname mouse works perfectly for my needs.
I have a Logitech MX Master from about 6-8 years ago - it still works - and it works with my new M1 Macbook Pro. I currently use a Logitch G502 Lightspeed that I absolutely adore. I do wish it had a couple more buttons, but I love it regardless.
Between the g502 and master 3s, which one would u get? My master 2s just broke and i need a new onr for work. I dont game but kinda like the gaming mice from logitech
@@tuvu8394 Considering how much more expensive wireless G502 is, I would get a new MX Master. You could get a wired G502 for less though. If you don't game then it's kind of a waste in my opinion because ultra low latency and light weight is what you're paying for mostly. So yeah honestly I'd go with the MX Master for work.
@@tuvu8394 Double check that the G502 is wireless, because I think its the wired version that is the same price as the MX Master. If the G502 is wireless at the same price as the MX Master - I would go with the G502 though.
I loved my MX Master 3 at first, but as a creative working on Mac, overall I've probably wasted more time troubleshooting software issues (even now that Options+ isn't in beta) than I have saved having all of the custom functionalities at my fingertips (and...thumbtips I suppose).
I have a MX master 2 mouse. Its ergonomics sucks. I hardly use it. I now use a Logitech Wired G403 and Mx Anywhere 3. Mx Anywhere 3 is the best mouse I have every bought.
is this for all logtech mouse, like the mx ergo and the m850? I bought m850 and tried it before but I returned it to try the mx ergo but idk if will be ok.. im loking for mice to ease pain in wrist, eblow shoulder arm when using computer
I have (had) a Macally USB-C mouse. Was an 'ok' mouse, but only last 2 years!! Now is as buggy as hell, and laggy. Very disappointed. Paid a premium for an 'Apple suitable' mouse. Guess I should blame WFH during Covid, for using my mouse 3-5 days a week?!?
Using the Logitech M317, it's an old mouse, but I like it.... that was until I got a Mac Studio a few weeks ago. Now it's terrible, it lags and jumps around, freezes constantly... I need a solution and I don't love the magic mouse.
I have the mx master 3, mx master 3s, M585 that I loved in windows, and I had to buy the magic mouse, which is terrible in ergonomics. Aside from the magic mouse, the only way I found accuracy was using a wired mouse. Now I'm looking for a wired silencer and if possible with programmable keys, I've only found the Logitech G502 so far, but it's not silent..
I have an MX2 and MX3, a Microsoft comfort BTooth, and a Katana mouse. I love the MXs I've had none of the problems you describe... Sounds like you should dump your apple computer and get a proper one :-)
I just ordered apples Mac mini m2 pro , and ordered the Apple mouse because I’m not sure if there’s a good aftermarket alternative. I want to buy the Logitech Mx 3s , and I want the Mac variant with no dongle . I’m wondering if the issues are solved , or should I just tough out the poor ergonomics of the Apple mouse ?
@@axelfoo1 I ended up buying a Mac laptop , this way I can out of town and can download my pictures . I was worried so I went with the Apple mouse . Ergonomically it’s horrendous, and I’m hoping this trillion dollar company can manage to redesign it . Not holding my breath that’s for sure . I think they need some new blood in the engineering department
I don’t think it’s just Logitechs mice on Mac OS. Just try getting their C920 webcam working without pulling your hair out. I only bought the stupid thing as it said made for Mac on the box. Horrible.
You’re running the old logi options through Rosetta? 👀 and you’re Definitely one of the lucky ones! Although the MacBook Pro has far less Bluetooth connectivity issues thankfully!
@@StusReviewsUK Yeah, no problems at all. i did have a M1 Macbook Air and was using the beta with that and found the buttons would just stop working, so when i got my new machine i stayed with the old software and its been perfect. keep up the great content!!
Happy Mac m1 pro user with me master 3. Never had any issues. You literally said in the beginning that is your personal opinion by admitting that so many people using this mouse. If you don’t like it, don’t use it. That simple.
I have a master 2s and mac mini m1. Nothing ever works. I love everything about the mouse but how it connects to my computer. None of the function are ever remembered... frustrating
this video should have (if you have a Mac) added to the title. I'm using an MX Master 3 on a PC and its been superb. Battery is brilliant, it will track on everything from glass to carpet and the magnetic scroll wheel is simply genius. But do agree that the thumb wheel is a bit high.
Noted! *edit* - changed the title for you 👍 As I said the feature set is unarguably brilliant, the scroll wheel is incredible, and the functions are amazing… it’s just a shame that myself (and apparently a significant number of owners) have many issues!
@@StusReviewsUK VERY impressed that you've changed the title! :) I hope your Mac experience improves with updates. Whilst I'm here, I also use the Logitech MX Keys keyboard and find that an absolute pleasure to use too....although I know that keyboards are VERY personal. Keep up the great videos.
Love this ultra detailed user review. I have just bought the mouse. And have been experiencing the lag. Honestly the best mouse I’ve ever used so fas is their cheapest lightspeed mouse, the G305. That spoiled me on reliability and feel. I saw a solution where you use a usb extension and make the receiver visible in line of sight to the mouse. So far the stutters have disappeared, hopefully it lasts.
Gaming mice have spoiled me. I bought this mouse for work but the latency/precision was killing me. Not having 1000hz polling rate makes everything feel sooooooo sluggish and imprecise.
Exactly I had been using G402 to do all my design work and I thought I was upgrading by purchasing MX master 3 but then I had to sell it and get Razer orochi because it was the only wireless gaming mouse with high sensitivity and 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth connectivity.
I have both mouses and here is my opinion (I use them on Macbook Pro i9 chip, mostly with unifying receiver, but sometimes with bluetooth): 1) MX master 3S came with a new unifying receiver, the new one, it was in the box. 2) 3S is not compatible with older receiver (and the same for Craft keyboards - if you have a combo 3S + Craft, you need to use 2 receivers, or just bluetooth). 3) The same for the software - Options+ is not compatible with either 2S or Craft keyboard (you need 2 versions of the software if you have a combo) 4) Thumb wheel on both mouses is something I never liked to use, it's not precise enough / clicky to be usable comfortably in my opinion (for example when scrolling timeline on Premiere Pro) 5) Ergonomics of 2 extra buttons close to the thumbwheel (usually Back and Next) are much better on 3S. On 2S they are so close together that are hard to press (especially the upper one is difficult to press) 6) Scroll wheel on both mouses is in a very similar position, I felt it natural to scroll on both mouses, great to use on both mouses 7) Side button (below the thumb) is easier to press on 2S. 3S has a smaller clickable area for this button under your thumb. But 2S had a problem with rubber around it (after couple of months it gets deformated and stuck because there is a plastic next to it, with not too much free space - if if rubber gets deformated with time, then you cannot freely press the button - seems to be fixed in 3S, but time will tell) 8) 2S has a problem with screws, they used a very thin plastic inside for screws, and it basically just crumbles. After a year of 2 of using, you start hearing noises of something in your mouse, you open it and you see small bits of plastic from around screws everywhere. It gets worse in time (possibly planned aging of the product - so you have to replace it) 9) I always had problems with Options software on MacOS. Usually it was not loading my custom buttons/presets configuration when starting the system. Doesn't seem to be an issue with new Options software. 10) I used 2S for 4 years of daily using and it was never broken (except broken screw plastics), always working. 11) Overall I'm happy after the upgrade, and I would not choose 2S again due to (in my opinion) improved ergonomics and software.
finally someone who actually records and points out issues I've been having ever since I got this God Forsaken Mouse lol! I honestly just end up using my trackpad on the mac and a g502 hero on my PC because I can't use the MX master 3s on anything without getting that jitter on my mac or pc with the bolt receiver as well.
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⚠️ *For all those with no issues, (or for those Illuminati 5G lizard alien conspiracy theorists who might try to deny the issues exist👽), Take a look at these lost mx master souls to see how lucky you are* - www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter
Also, even MKBH mentions connection issues. See his studio tour from 6 minutes onwards; th-cam.com/video/cxp-FCDUkNc/w-d-xo.html
You mentioned being tempted by a ball mouse. Ever tried the Elecom Huge? Its a well built freak of a mouse, perfect for larger hands.
@@madassbadgers yeah that was mentioned! It’s certainly huge!
😂😂😂😂😂 i have an macbook pro M1 pro with the mx master 3. Until now no problems 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As a say in another reply below: I solved this completely with my Logitech M720 by putting the receiver on a USB extension cable about a metre away. Perfect since I did this.
@@BobKummerfeld Mines currently 1ft away on the same work surface as the mouse... still having issues. 😮💨
Stu's review of tech reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson's review of cars. Love it! Cheers.
this let to a subscribe, I love Jeremy Clarkson!
Totally agree!!
i thought this exact same thing too. i think its the pure red hot outrage delivered as calmly as the bbc weather report
Massive Clarkson vibes. Not a bad thing necessarily!
Came here to say the same thing
There are umpteen unboxing videos and reviews on this product. I haven't seen anybody mention connectivity issues. You saved me time and money. Thanks!
No problem! 🌞👌
I have MX Master 3 for Mac. I used it on my old iMac and it was great. Now I have the MAc Studio and it's a nightmare. The biggest issue is that the scroll wheel often stops working. Sometimes every day or a few times per day. Sometimes it works for a whole week. Then suddenly it stops. Total pain.
I would scroll to the bottom of the comments to see if anyone else has these problems, but of course the scroll wheel has stopped working....
I got the MX Master 3 and an M1 Mac Mini and don’t have these issues. I’m assuming this has been corrected already. I don’t have any connection issues in any way anymore. Very comfortable mouse and very good performance now. I suggest everyone gives it a try again
Does it flows well with davinci resolve?
BUYER BEWARE - If you have an M1 Mac, DO NOT BUY this mouse (March 2022).
I never comment on TH-cam, but just like the uploader I feel so strongly about the issues with the MX Master 3 on M1 Mac that I have to say something. I work in IT and believe me when I say this has been the most frustrating peripheral and software experience I've ever had. It's utterly infuriating that a mouse that is marketed specifically for a Mac, and that is so expensive, is so broken and unsupported.
This isn't something that can be fixed on our end, it's something that Logitech must recognise and provide a fix for in both Firmware and Software (assuming it's not a hardware incompatibility). Logitech has not provided any meaningful support or fix in the last 15 months, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you think that's going to change.
I've returned my mouse and would advise anyone considering purchasing it to look elsewhere until Logitech brings out a new model.
What I find most amazing is how people who don’t have these issues seem to not believe the issues exist 👁👄👁
I had the same issue, I still don't know what I need to buy instead of mx3 and magic mouse
Running fine on the last Intel Mac.
M1 Macbook Air, MX Master 3 user here.
If you are a mac user unistall logitech software and get SteerMouse.
I've had similar issues, most annoying was intermittent horizontal scrolling.
Absolutely random on and off, 2 seconds here, 5 seconds there and because horizontal scroll was one of the main reasons I went for mx master 3, I started to look for the solution.
Logitech support is a joke. Once I uninstalled all logitech software I realised that all the issues disapeared so it's not hardware incompatibility.
Of course after uninstalling logitech software I couldn't customize buttons and scrolls the way I like, but then I've found SteerMouse.
Way more ways to customize scrolls and buttons and no issues anymore.
Is the latest version of MX Master 3S better?
I use the Magic Mouse 2 with iMac, do have an mx master 2s aswell but I like the swiping between pages/tabs etc that the Magic Mouse allows you to do on macOS . Maybe not very comfy to use but I like the functionality of it
Use a magic trackpad to the left of your keyboard, and a better mouse in your right hand (assuming ur right hand dominant)
With mx3 its not possible binding?
I had the same issue with my series 1 and it had the same lag on my Intel Mac, it’s not an M1 issue it’s a Logitech issue .
Also had lag issues on various windows laptops, Logitech support was as usual useless, for the price I’d expect a product that works. I feel many TH-camrs don’t use the products they review and yes they do get caught up in MX fever
Using the M720. The thumb click for mission control is awesome. Really handy for all the windows I constantly need to switch through. I also have the mx master 2S but I prefer the M720's thumb click. Great review!
That is soooo true! I thought he sounds familiar 😂. Thanks Stu! Great review!
I am pretty much in the same situation . I own a macbook air m1 and so far i tried the logitech mx master 3 , orochi v2 , magic mouse 3 , microsoft bluetooth mouse and the logitech g203. I have tried bluetooth and the 2.4ghz dongle and yea...the dongle is a little better but is not smooth all the time. Every single one of them work ...but not reliable. Not like they work in windows. Pls do a follow up video if u find new alternatives and thank you for your hard work !
With the USB receiver, the MX Master 3 worked flawlessly for me. I can't say the same for MX Master 3s, though. They've introduced this new "Logi Bolt" receiver, and the experience is lacking so far. I think there are no issues with tracking, but the Bolt software on MACOS is half-baked and doesn't allow changing the DPI.. Or anything, for that matter. "Logitech Options" is quite solid, though.
it's been 2 years now.. wondering what mouse that you ended up using it..
@@aditya3n Right now i use a razer cobra pro with my macbook pro. I use it with its included dongle and it feels almost as good as it is on windows. I use a few helping programs on mac like mac mouse fix and linear mouse but i got it to a point where the mouse feels as good on mac as it is on windows. I am happy with how it feels now .
@@c.a.design8390 wow sounds great, thanks!
i have the magic mouse and HATE it!! the edges hurt my hand. so i was hoping the 3s would be the solution, but this has me worried 😦
I’ve been using an MX Master 3 with my works laptop for months now and it’s been brilliant, amazing battery life.
Yeah the battery life is incredible!
Me too. I had a terrible adventure with mx3 mouse. Now I use a Magic Mouse 2. Just because it is sexy on my desktop and works. But I am thinking about switching back to Windows. I need a good mouse.
Thank God someone finally said it, I am having same issues I sold it and got razer orochi v2, which is significantly better with Bluetooth connection
So the 2 mice I have are the MX Master 2S for my work desktop & the Magic Mouse 2 for my Mac Mini, totally agree with you about Magic Mouse in terms of the Goddawful ergonomics, the functionality of it is fantastic but anything more than a couple of hours cripples my hand/wrist. Never had a problem with the MX Master, but then I’ve never tried using it on my Mac
If you're still interested in the question, I use a MX Master 3 with a Macbook Pro 16 Intel (2020 model I think) using native bluetooth (no universal receiver). Been using it since 2021 and had no issues.
A MacBook m1 user here! Can anyone recommend me a good mouse for small hands? (Hand length around 16cm).
- Palm/Claw grip
- Use for mostly productivity with some gaming (not too heavy and slow)
Much thanks!
Great review. I have also spent hours in trying to get my Logitech mice MX master 1 and 3 to work with my MacBook Pro 16 inch with the new processor. Now I use the external trackpad and is planning to buy the magic mouse too although the ergonomics are bad - but it works.
I'm at the same crossroads, I have had the Logitech MX Vertical mouse for over a year, I like it but I have the same problems on my Macbook pro M1, they have been partially solved with the unifier, it's not perfect at all, super annoying because it's an expensive mouse. Today the wheel has stopped working, I've tried to repair it and nothing worked!! As a graphics designer, I need an ergonomic mouse, so I was thinking to opt for the MX Master, but I don't want to have the same problems, especially if it doesn't even come with unifying. I hope we find some other similar mouse that is not Logitech, I really need it!! Thank you for the informative video, subscribing
Glad someone talks about this issue. I bought the MX Master 3S for my MacBook M1 Pro and I was totally disappointed by the way it moves the cursor. If I try to make small circles with my trackpad it is totally smooth. With the MX Master, it is totally jittering. Find that very unpleasant and inconvenient to work, because hitting buttons on screen is impaired comparing with the trackpad. Even though I never experienced these jumps you had on yours. Sent my first back to Amazon and my new one is a bit better, but I think I'll try to use an external USB transmitter as you advised. Or I'll get my self an Apple mouse and try to use it plugged in ;)
MX3 best mouse I have used. Scroll wheel is perfection!
Yes the scroll wheel is fantastic, that’s unarguable! 👍👍👌
I have had the 1 for years, working fine. Recently after a couple of months with my new Mac Studio selection and other things became quite erratic. Bought the MX3 for Mac in order to solve this but could not even establish contact with Bluetooth. Saw your post and decided to return it immediately. Looking for a good alternative now
And i still am! 😭
I was literally just about to buy master 3 for my 2018 imac
Would the Logitech g502 x plus be any good
@@azgard8914 I wouldn't know but I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.
@@StusReviewsUK I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.
I found a solution to the Logitech mouse issue with the Mac Studio... if you use a USB-C to lightning converter to connect your mouse's USB receiver to then there are no issues. If you connect it to the USB C port, there's all kinds of skipping, lag, it's terrible... there is no disruption when you connect the receiver to the adaptor in the lightning port. 🐁
and how to solve on macbook pro M1 max?
I like the Apple Trackpad better than the Apple mouse because I'm use to using a trackpad with my Macbook. Also it has more features. And you can use it while it's charging.
I’m using an MX Master 1 with my M1 MacBook Air, and I’ve never had any of these issues.
You might be upset with this episode... or perhaps agree with me! I cant wait to find out which it is!
@@StusReviewsUK sorry, I edited my comment before seeing this one lol. I’m not upset _and_ I don’t agree, as I’ve never had any of these issues.
The only issue I’ve had is every so often the scrolling wheels stop working until I turn it off and back on. That happens with Mac or Windows, no matter what computer I connect it to. But I’ve had it for many years, so I think it might just be coming to the end of its life.
Really! Interesting! You’re lucky then! Keep doing what you’re doing, because it’s obviously working👌👌.
As for the scrolling issue, not something I’ve come across yet!
Any updated two years later? Is the software still in beta?
Not sure why but my MX Master seems to work fine. No stuttering, and it charges via USB from the Mac fine (also m1 max chip).
I'm still replacing it with an MMO mouse for video editing, both because I don't like the ergos myself, and because the battery life and button placement aren't great.
Also, many mice I've used have SIDE scrolling with the main wheel. Just push it to one or the other side and viola.
I'm not sure if it would not work for some reason or other, but I know my Razor Naga has side scrolling and it's awesome in DaVinci.
great review,i find the best mouse is the logitech M510 mouse and just bought a second mouse is the Logitech K650 L but prefer the weight of the 510 anf like using the unifying receiver ,but the 650 has the newer bolt unifying receiver and the scroll wheel is a tad better than the 510.Good god ,back in the 70's we would refer to 510 as the datsun 510 can which won many rally's back in the old days.Also, I'm not a fan of the magic mouse or keyboard and 3 mac keyboards but prefer Logitech's.
I use the wired Logitech MX 518 and G400 on the Mac Studio with Sonoma 14.1.1.
Both mice actually worked well until Ventura.
With the last Sonoma update, however, the problems started. When moving objects on the desktop, they keep getting stuck. They can be moved, but these delays are annoying.
When I work with Adobe programs, there are display problems with the cursor and some tools. When work palettes are moved, they drag slowly as if on a rubber band. This was not the case before Sonoma. However, if I use the Magic Mouse, which is connected to the Mac via Bluetooth, I don't have these problems. Very strange. But I think the Magic Mouse is a real ergonomic disaster.
It doesn't matter whether I use the two Logitech mice with the Logitech software or with the universal driver USB Overdrive - the problems occur in both cases.
I already suspected that Apple might be deliberately preventing the use of third-party mice. But that is certainly wrong.
I guess I was super lucky cause I have never had such issues with my MacBook pro M2 max with the Mx Master 3
Also, I know I'm playing devil's advocate but the reason the magic mouse has the charger upside down IS because they want people to use it wireless, so the wire doesn't stretch and hang with the computer, comparatively the keyboard/Trackpad doesn't move like the mouse does, they stay stationary because of which there's no practical determent to having them plugged in while charging but the mouse does. (Although I do agree with the ergonomics part)
I've been using the Logitech MX Master 1 from 2016 with my iMac / iPad Pro with zero issues. No dongle. No jitter. It just works. I don't use an M1 chip yet though.
Good luck when you do 😂
Hey Stu! Thanks for the honest review. Unfortunately I saw this video too late. I got myself the MX 3S for Mac, but I'll try to return it. Do you have any suggestion for another bluetooth mouse I could try out?
use wire mouse! no other option!
I have a similar problem, I own a Microsoft mouse and I use mac. The mouse was working perfectly until 8 months ago. I tried a second brand new mouse same computer and different computer. Same results.
My theory is, apple updated something in osx and just f**** up their bluetooth module for third party devices.
Is same problem, lagging, jittery etc…
This doesn’t happens with the magic mouse.
Excellent video. I am using a logitech g600 at the moment and I have been on the fence about the mx master sinces its a good fit for me but given the issues discussed I’ll have to wait / consider alternatives
So what do people suggest other than these MX ? My problem is non connection after my MacBook has been put to sleep.
Warning: Long post
Here’s my experience. I’m using a MacBook Air M1 with an external monitor and keyboard and Magic Mouse, iPad Gen 7, and an HP windows PC. For various reasons I am not willing to trash the Microsoft OS machine and the apps I am using there. The PC usage is with a K350 BT keyboard and M510 BT mouse. Both have been easy to use and very dependable, with long battery life (for me). My complaint after I got my Macbook was the constant shuffling of keyboards and mice when switching from one to the other. My prospective solution was an MX Keys and the MX3 mouse. Shortly after receiving both, I discovered Apple’s Universal Display feature. What a game-changer. Now the keyboard and Apple mouse can be used on both my M1 and iPad. Seamless usage, in my opinion. Super easy to use those two peripherals on the Apple devices. And the keyboard easily communicates with the PC when I need it. So now I have one keyboard, instead of two. Unlike you, I’m not yet disgusted with the Magic Mouse. It serves my needs well enough, but of course doesn’t work with the PC. So, should I open and use the MX3?
Well, I agree with you about many of the annoyances with that rodent. And, the M510 has not failed me over several years, so why trash it? If I switched to the MX3, I would be “flipping the switch” back and forth when switching machines anyway, so why waste that US$99, simply for more buttons that I may or may not make use of? Besides, I think it is a bit ugly.
So, I sent the unopened mouse back to Amazon for a refund, but kept the MX Keys. Superb keyboard for my usage, with easy switching among machines, long battery life in my experience, but a bit pricey at $120. When switching to the PC, I throw one switch on the keyboard and pick up the M510 and “Away we go” as Ralph Cramden used to say. One keyboard on my desk, and two mice. Plenty of room now.
You asked for it, and that’s my take on the subject. Thanks for the video, and your well-considered opinion.
Its been nearly 7 years and im still on my mx master original in which i brought for £80 pounds and loved it ever since. Yes there are issues which is outlined in the video but its still pretty good.
My Logitech MX Master 3 scroll wheel just quit scrolling on the screen. No fix says the Help Line, and it is out of the one-year warranty.
9:45 - considering the newest iteration of the Magic Mouse was wider... ...It still isn't wide enough.
The MX Master 3 was my first BT mouse for my Mac Mini M1. I had the exact same problems as you and it's still not fixed. Even the cheaper MX Vertical runs smoother on my system which is crazy. I currently use the wired version of the kensington trackball (expert version) and like it. But it's still not the perfect solution for me. I'll try the Razer Deathadder 2 next and then the MadCatz R.A.T 8+
The issue is with the Bluetooth on Mac.
@@meh8099 yeah it works better with the dongle
@@sebastiantrauter2368 I really don't understand what this rant is about.. the guy in the vid is just ranting instead of doing proper research if the hardware is a good fit for his usecase.. then it doesn't work and he goes online to rant about it, only likes comments where others say the product is crap..
While he could've just used his brain in the first place and ask himself if he really needs this mouse for his usecase, which clearly is a NO because he's ranting about it not having a wire, completely missing the point why you want to buy this mouse.
Then instead of being aware of the crappyness of Apple hardware: bluetooth sucks. He goes and blames Logitech for the incompetent and highly overpayed QA engineers at Apple clearly not doing their job to validate the Bluetooth connectivity.
The whole solution is simple: pair with the bolt USB dongle.
If he would complain about Logitech not using USB-C for the bolt dongle: then yes he would've had a point. Maybe he did, didn't watch the video anymore after the 7 minute mark..
@@meh8099 his arguments are pretty much right I would say. I mean if Logitech brings something on the market and then also brings out specific mac versions of that product, the customer can expect a fully functional product right? If Bluetooth would be the only reason why the MX is not working correctly, there would be nothing that Logitech could do since it's an Apple problem. But I guess it's not just the Bluetooth. Other Logitech products work way better (MX Vertical for example) and the magic mouse 2 has no problems at all (except the shitty form factor 😅).
So the rant is basically about companies that release unfinished products and about yay sayers that are either sponsored or are on the hype train because not many have something negative to say about the MX. Maybe their expectations are way lower but from a neutral point of view, the MX Master 3 is (was) way overpriced for what it can do. It's a different story now since the newer version is on the market but it almost took me 2 years to get used to the MX with it's issues and i'm not using logi options anymore since the software is just not what it could be.
All in all the point of the video was to show people, that the product has some issues under certain circumstances and that it's definitely NOT the new standard mouse for professionals, creatives or powerusers. I was blinded by all these good reviews and was disappointed when I got my MX. That's why I find negative reviews way more helpful than the positives tbh 😅
I had to buy a new keyboard and mouse as was given a mac for work. Have had an MX Master in the past and it worked fine for years until the charging contacts died.
This time I bought a logitech triathlon mouse and keyboard set. Not particularly happy with the keyboard and had similar issues to those you mentioned with the unifying receiver. In the end they are both now running on bluetooth. Wasn't sure if it was something to do with it having to go theough a usb a to usb c hub or that Mac's (in my opinion) have an inferior operating system.
The mouse is just ok, not really what you need for your role but for general office it is fine. I needed the ability to swap between machines which is why I bought the set. Mac/PC/Pi.
I do have a logitech MX master 2. But i always revert to my Apple Magic mice. It just works better. It's nice for scrolling, (especially sideways on the internet.) Or on the time line in Logic Pro X & Final Cut Pro X. So the logitech MX master 2 lays here in one of my drawers as a back up for when my AMM battery is low and i need to charge it. Then i will usually take out the MXM 2 or i just take my Apple Magic trackpad 2. So i'm still in search of a good mice. But also for a good keyboard that works nicely on my Mac. I've been looking to the Keychron keyboard's (with numpad) but i've recently heard their mice's are pretty good as well. So i'm going to look a bit more into that. I personally do like gaming keyboard's as well. Especially the Corsair/Logitech915 & the SteelSeries Apex Pro Keyboards really appeal to me. But i know that the compatibility with a Mac isn't good with those gaming keyboards as they are made for Windows.
I do think my only option is either the Keychron or go with a Logitech MX Keys. I would like to try out a mechanical keyboard. Preferably "half height." I'm not sure which switch i'm going for. Though i do think it will either be a red or brown one. I don't have any other experience with this. But those 2 switches looks most interesting to me.
When I am not using my Wacom tablet, I am sharing an MX Master 3 with both my M1 MacBook Pro laptop and iMac 27, both running Ventura. I find the MX3 to be extremely comfortable to use...WHEN IT'S WORKING! When I am on my iMac, it is not uncommon for the MX3 to lose its Bluetooth connection. I actually came here to see if you had a fix. I don't have a noticeable lag, but for graphics work, I pretty much only use the Wacom. I'm not a gamer, but could see why a lag would suck. The Magic Mouse is a joke for anything beyond surfing the Internet or doing some writing.
I just bought a Logitech G604 hoping to solve the skipping cursor issue which it did with DPI settings and report sensitivity. What really is driving me crazy is that G Hub software, and Logi Options wont hold their settings you program in. Hit the button, nothing happens. Check your settings, yep still there. This is on my 2012 intel mac mini. Very flaky and beyond absurd. Apple bears a lot of blame in not providing a full range of OEM mice for their computers.
MX Master 1 with intel 2017 Mac book pro, works great no issues. Have just ordered an M1 Mac book pro though, hope it still works with that!
I think the connectivity on the MBPs are much better than the max mini, although if you’re unlucky like me, the non optimised software which is running through Rosetta will cause you problems 👀
I miss buttons & bezier control points/nodes all day and had to enable the Windows feature that automatically puts the cursor over a button, or I would be much slower in general. The device software Options is awful and doesn't let you assign custom commands to buttons in the same was as the gaming mice like the G502 (a MUCH better mouse for anything). There are no features on this mouse for designing and making a precise selection in PhotoShop makes me wanna break things, as it'll go too big/too small/too big. So inaccurate! And if you wanna control 2 PCs/Macs, use the Synergy app, so you can use a keyboard, too and control Linux/Mac/PCs with the same K/M with only software via your network. No more pressing a button on the bottom of the mouse (stupid placement), you just scroll from one PC's screen to another!
honestly, i've been so dissatisfied with available choices for mac first keyboard and mouses that i just resorted to using almost only my mac's built in keyboard and touchpad (even for gaming, when i do), and it works well for me. i know you've mentioned that using the magic trackpad strains your hands, so i don't think that would work for you.
it kind of sucks that short of logitech there's not many good high quality mice that are also not completely gaming focused.
Don't remember why, but as an aging boomer, with very basic use-needs to say the least, ended up using an old Apple corded mouse plugged into the back of my 27"imac via usb... I also got tired of going the bluetooth route with the keyboard so I have my mini apple magic board plugged in usbc (?) as well... that's 2 ports taken; so what (in my case). ... ... I'm getting a new M1 Mini with the Studio Display (as soon as they can send it) but CAN"T FIND A "GOOD basic MOUSE"... they don't seem to even sell these anymore. PS: the reason was the frequent disconnection problems with bluetooth... Has that improved over the last 5+ years???
I have the same issues with Logitech intermittence/incompatibility. And frustrated at the money wasted on them.
I now use a trackpad on my left hand, since I use the Pencil and iPad a lot to scribble notes with the right. I'm thinking I might tolerate the Magic Mouse for the right hand for the minority time I spend doing more drag & drop work or fine work - which the trackpad isn't so great for. If I have issues with the Magic Mouse, I might try the Mello silicone cushion for it.
One of Apple's great deficiencies is that sometimes they seem to believe their own hype about their design capabilities.
This is what Logitech says about designing products for Apple devices! 🤔
“ Logitech accessories just go with Apple® experiences - and that’s completely by design. In fact, we’ve been designing for, and sometimes with, Apple for over a decade. The result is a suite of tools that elevate every Apple experience with more functionality, more customization, and more comfort. Now, that’s what we call magic.”
Less magic and more torture for me with this one 😂👀
I've been using a Logitech M570 with a MacPro since 2008. I had to replace it after 6 years. Since its replacement in 2020. At the moment I am using the M570 with the unifying receiver on a dongle/adapter for my MBP M1 Max. I don't like having bluetooth on constantly. Why Logitech hasn't at least made and included a unifying receiver with usb-c after all these YEARS is utterly mystifying. There is of course the lack of wired usage which you have already made express mention of. I could have opted for the M575 which also can connect via bluetooth. I already have another cheap ($30 USD) ergonomic mouse connecting via usb or bluetooth, which I use with my tablet or phone. All these considerations and shortcomings, I apply to Logitech's keyboards as well when operating on Apple Silicon. There's more similar nonsense I could expose about both Apple and Logitech, but I'd rather use my time much more productively. Have a great day sir, and keep up the honest and to-the-point(s) reviews. Thumbs up simply for using the expression "chinwag" - which I first heard from my Kiwi friend several years ago. 😁
I have an MX Master ii paired with my Surface Book at home and an MX Master iii paired with a MacBook Pro for work... I've not experienced any of the issues you have. Main reason I have them is ergonomics... Not really interested in allot of the extra functions, but I do like the super speed of the scroll wheel on the ii!
Yeah the scroll wheel is one of the best things about them!
I love the magic mouse have been using it for years with no problems, I'm thinking on buying the MX master 3s for a couple of reasons, 1 use 2 machines during the day a Macbook Pro, and a custom build PC running Linux and rarelly windows. the fact that I can change from 1 device to another with the same keyboard and the mouse follows.
I may not having the same issues with the mouse as mine is still intel based. If I could use my magic mouse across all my systems I would with a shadow of a doubt. :)
This to say there are use cases for these products, easily change machines, copy and paste files between 2 systems like Mac and Windows (not sure this one works with linux)... I know I'm kind of a special case in terms of use but those features are exactly the reason I'm thinking on buying the MX keys + MX mastes 3s and stop having 2 keyboards and mice on the top of my desk :)
forget about any wireless mouse in today's Mac's. You will only have accuracy with the magic mouse or with a wired mouse. unfortunately. I have the same need as yours because I use a win machine and another macbook 16"max. I already have mouse collections
I've got the Logitech MX Master 3S and Macbook pro M1, Ventura and have been trying to figure out why the mouse is so laggy especially when I'm using google meet or zoom with an external camera plugged in it becomes unsable. Sounds like I have wasted my money
A couple of months late here. But I'm using the Logitech MX Ergo Plus Trackball Mouse on my M1 Mac Mini and M1 iPad Pro.
"Glorious model o" with WIRE! And I'm done with the mouse thing. Light, accurate, perfect. I'm probably the only one who needs perfection and not lots of buttons, whiteness, no middle wheel, "ergonomics" wireless, you name it. "Glorious model o" is and will be. MAC devices excluded from start.
So which mouse would you recommend? I’m experiencing all the issues you mentioning lol. I was tryna get the master 3s but I think I’m done with logintech.
get a wired mouse issue solved and many more options.
I am using range of Logitech mice: G604 and G602 notably. On other computer I am using Rapoo MT750 pro, and I have one wired SteelSeries mice, can't remember model..
I get this issue on an older Mac (2015 MBP) on Mojave 10.14.6, but it was working since i got it over a year ago ... Working on upgrading to Big Sur or Monterey and wondering if i will still have the same issue. I see the site says MX compatibility is above where i am currently. ... I am using the MX Veritical mouse and full keyboard. I am getting disconnect issues most recently in the past week on both the keyboard and mouse. The only thing different that i have done is use a docking station, but I am using the built-in bluetooth (no usb wireless 2.4 MHz). Tried it though and did not help. Not sure if it was an update or something else. ... Thanks for the video. #Gitters #MouseJump
I just purchased a M-chip Mac and my Logitech (m510) mouse with unifying receiver also has jitter/lag :( When you're a software engineer this is a serious issue.
Aaargh, again that Magic Mouse "weird choice to put the charging port at the bottom" discussion again ...
The Magic Mouse is designed with swiping gestures in mind. For comfortable swiping the surface has to be as low as possible. Hence the low design. Putting a port at the front or back conflicts with that design, because then you have to raise the surface to make room for the port.
The battery life is very long. You get a warning when it's low, so you have all the time and opportunity to charge it. If you ignore the warnings and run out, then a 5 minute charge (the time to get a coffee) is enough to get another 3 hours.
Yes, the Magic Mouse isn't suitable for continuously using it many hours in a row. Most people don't do that. Stu isn't in the "most people" usage group. But that doesn't mean it's a bad mouse. I think it's a great mouse. It's not a "one size fits all" mouse. I personally hate / dislike the large mouses like the MX ones. I understand that they're great for some people. But not for me.
So, please stop complaining about the port at the bottom. Just get a mouse that suits your work scenario. Aargh!
MX Master 2s, on windows 11
I have not seen any problems I've had in for just over 1year, and you can use it wired on mine if you have the charger into the coputer
There’s a difference between using it on charge and using it as a wired connection… these mice don’t support wired connection.
And I think these issues are potentially related to mac only.
I don't use a mouse with my Apple M1 laptop, I have got bad arthritis in my hands, unfortunately. I am thinking about getting an Apple Magic Trackpad, to make my life easier. What do you think, can you think of any cheaper alternatives for myself?
You might find the trackpad just as bad. I found that using one with an imac i would get 'claw hand' quite quickly, and my palm would start to ache... but everyone is different! Fortunately apple have a great 14 day return policy 😉
Logitech's gaming mice are well known to have double click issues as well. I don't think I can reasonably buy another Logitech mouse and not feel like I've been robbed. They make the best mice on the market, but at the same time I can't help but feel the opposite
Just try the MADCATZ R.A.T. 8+Fully Adjustable Gaming Mouse, you'll love it.
I totaly agree with you, Just one thing: RAZER BASILISK is not even close to the shape of the MX mouse. :)
Asus ROG Pugio 2 , verry good ambidextrous mouse - wireless + bluetooth
ya man it jitter as well and I'm using m1 Mac mini
I use a $13 mouse from Amazon. It looks very similar to Magic Mouse, however, that fixes 2 design flaws: 1: Charger is at the front and you can charge and use at the same time. 2: MM has that touch gesture "touchpad" on its too which constantly false registering scroll events. And it cannot even be disabled. So annoying. Anyways, that cheap Noname mouse works perfectly for my needs.
Name?? Lol
I have the MX Master 2. With my iPad Pro though. I guess the glass topped next Mini will fix the Bluetooth 🤞🏾
If rumours are true! 🤞
I have a Logitech MX Master from about 6-8 years ago - it still works - and it works with my new M1 Macbook Pro. I currently use a Logitch G502 Lightspeed that I absolutely adore. I do wish it had a couple more buttons, but I love it regardless.
Between the g502 and master 3s, which one would u get? My master 2s just broke and i need a new onr for work. I dont game but kinda like the gaming mice from logitech
@@tuvu8394 Considering how much more expensive wireless G502 is, I would get a new MX Master. You could get a wired G502 for less though. If you don't game then it's kind of a waste in my opinion because ultra low latency and light weight is what you're paying for mostly. So yeah honestly I'd go with the MX Master for work.
@@HelicopterRidesForCommunists thanks. At my place the 2 mice are exactly the same price though, so which one would you say is the better deal?
@@tuvu8394 Double check that the G502 is wireless, because I think its the wired version that is the same price as the MX Master. If the G502 is wireless at the same price as the MX Master - I would go with the G502 though.
the less fancy but very effective m720 triathlon but only with the MX keys keyborad
I loved my MX Master 3 at first, but as a creative working on Mac, overall I've probably wasted more time troubleshooting software issues (even now that Options+ isn't in beta) than I have saved having all of the custom functionalities at my fingertips (and...thumbtips I suppose).
Try Rapoo MT750 pro... Has horizontal scrolling and it is cheap but functions and does the job.
I use the MX master 3 switched from the G602 bcs of that ones scroll wheel issue
which appeared after 5 years
Hi, what is the numpad you're using? Can anyone recommend a low-profile numpad to match the Keychron K3?
I have a MX master 2 mouse. Its ergonomics sucks. I hardly use it. I now use a Logitech Wired G403 and Mx Anywhere 3. Mx Anywhere 3 is the best mouse I have every bought.
yep Logitech silent touch keyboard and mouse from work. Works fine on windows laptop, nothing but jitter on Apple M1 Mac.
is this for all logtech mouse, like the mx ergo and the m850? I bought m850 and tried it before but I returned it to try the mx ergo but idk if will be ok.. im loking for mice to ease pain in wrist, eblow shoulder arm when using computer
Thank you. Saved money
I have (had) a Macally USB-C mouse. Was an 'ok' mouse, but only last 2 years!! Now is as buggy as hell, and laggy. Very disappointed. Paid a premium for an 'Apple suitable' mouse. Guess I should blame WFH during Covid, for using my mouse 3-5 days a week?!?
Using the Logitech M317, it's an old mouse, but I like it.... that was until I got a Mac Studio a few weeks ago. Now it's terrible, it lags and jumps around, freezes constantly... I need a solution and I don't love the magic mouse.
I have the mx master 3, mx master 3s, M585 that I loved in windows, and I had to buy the magic mouse, which is terrible in ergonomics. Aside from the magic mouse, the only way I found accuracy was using a wired mouse. Now I'm looking for a wired silencer and if possible with programmable keys, I've only found the Logitech G502 so far, but it's not silent..
Sounds like a mac issue - written on my macbook m1 pro.
I have an MX2 and MX3, a Microsoft comfort BTooth, and a Katana mouse. I love the MXs I've had none of the problems you describe... Sounds like you should dump your apple computer and get a proper one :-)
I’m hooked on Final Cut Pro… and the ecosystem has got me! 🥵
I just ordered apples Mac mini m2 pro , and ordered the Apple mouse because I’m not sure if there’s a good aftermarket alternative. I want to buy the Logitech Mx 3s , and I want the Mac variant with no dongle . I’m wondering if the issues are solved , or should I just tough out the poor ergonomics of the Apple mouse ?
I'm curious, too. Have you had any experience with the MX Master 3S version?
@@axelfoo1 I ended up buying a Mac laptop , this way I can out of town and can download my pictures . I was worried so I went with the Apple mouse . Ergonomically it’s horrendous, and I’m hoping this trillion dollar company can manage to redesign it . Not holding my breath that’s for sure . I think they need some new blood in the engineering department
I don’t think it’s just Logitechs mice on Mac OS. Just try getting their C920 webcam working without pulling your hair out. I only bought the stupid thing as it said made for Mac on the box. Horrible.
That’s a shame! I’ve heard good things about that webcam!
Im using an MX Master 3 with my macbook pro 14 M1Pro with no problems at all and running the standard software and not beta
and also using the built in bluetooth
You’re running the old logi options through Rosetta? 👀 and you’re Definitely one of the lucky ones! Although the MacBook Pro has far less Bluetooth connectivity issues thankfully!
@@StusReviewsUK Yeah, no problems at all. i did have a M1 Macbook Air and was using the beta with that and found the buttons would just stop working, so when i got my new machine i stayed with the old software and its been perfect. keep up the great content!!
Happy Mac m1 pro user with me master 3. Never had any issues. You literally said in the beginning that is your personal opinion by admitting that so many people using this mouse. If you don’t like it, don’t use it. That simple.
i have the mac mini m1 and was wondering if the issue still is there, as i would go for apple trackpad instead. is the issue still happening?
Yes 👁👄👁
MX3 Master bought for win 11 used on my MBP M1 14😀
I wonder if you would like the asus proart md300
I have a master 2s and mac mini m1. Nothing ever works. I love everything about the mouse but how it connects to my computer. None of the function are ever remembered... frustrating
this video should have (if you have a Mac) added to the title. I'm using an MX Master 3 on a PC and its been superb. Battery is brilliant, it will track on everything from glass to carpet and the magnetic scroll wheel is simply genius. But do agree that the thumb wheel is a bit high.
Noted! *edit* - changed the title for you 👍
As I said the feature set is unarguably brilliant, the scroll wheel is incredible, and the functions are amazing… it’s just a shame that myself (and apparently a significant number of owners) have many issues!
@@StusReviewsUK VERY impressed that you've changed the title! :) I hope your Mac experience improves with updates. Whilst I'm here, I also use the Logitech MX Keys keyboard and find that an absolute pleasure to use too....although I know that keyboards are VERY personal. Keep up the great videos.
do you have any issues with the scroll whell not working properly? I've seen many people with this issue
Hi :-) So what's the situation now almost 2 years later? Does it work better? Did you find an alternative?
Thank you for your frank and honest review. Saved me some cash and a whole lot of time!
Love this ultra detailed user review. I have just bought the mouse. And have been experiencing the lag. Honestly the best mouse I’ve ever used so fas is their cheapest lightspeed mouse, the G305. That spoiled me on reliability and feel. I saw a solution where you use a usb extension and make the receiver visible in line of sight to the mouse. So far the stutters have disappeared, hopefully it lasts.
From when this video was made (10 months ago to now) these issues you don’t see as a problem?
Gaming mice have spoiled me. I bought this mouse for work but the latency/precision was killing me. Not having 1000hz polling rate makes everything feel sooooooo sluggish and imprecise.
I know right… certainly not the most precise 👀
Exactly I had been using G402 to do all my design work and I thought I was upgrading by purchasing MX master 3 but then I had to sell it and get Razer orochi because it was the only wireless gaming mouse with high sensitivity and 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth connectivity.
I have both mouses and here is my opinion (I use them on Macbook Pro i9 chip, mostly with unifying receiver, but sometimes with bluetooth):
1) MX master 3S came with a new unifying receiver, the new one, it was in the box.
2) 3S is not compatible with older receiver (and the same for Craft keyboards - if you have a combo 3S + Craft, you need to use 2 receivers, or just bluetooth).
3) The same for the software - Options+ is not compatible with either 2S or Craft keyboard (you need 2 versions of the software if you have a combo)
4) Thumb wheel on both mouses is something I never liked to use, it's not precise enough / clicky to be usable comfortably in my opinion (for example when scrolling timeline on Premiere Pro)
5) Ergonomics of 2 extra buttons close to the thumbwheel (usually Back and Next) are much better on 3S. On 2S they are so close together that are hard to press (especially the upper one is difficult to press)
6) Scroll wheel on both mouses is in a very similar position, I felt it natural to scroll on both mouses, great to use on both mouses
7) Side button (below the thumb) is easier to press on 2S. 3S has a smaller clickable area for this button under your thumb. But 2S had a problem with rubber around it (after couple of months it gets deformated and stuck because there is a plastic next to it, with not too much free space - if if rubber gets deformated with time, then you cannot freely press the button - seems to be fixed in 3S, but time will tell)
8) 2S has a problem with screws, they used a very thin plastic inside for screws, and it basically just crumbles. After a year of 2 of using, you start hearing noises of something in your mouse, you open it and you see small bits of plastic from around screws everywhere. It gets worse in time (possibly planned aging of the product - so you have to replace it)
9) I always had problems with Options software on MacOS. Usually it was not loading my custom buttons/presets configuration when starting the system. Doesn't seem to be an issue with new Options software.
10) I used 2S for 4 years of daily using and it was never broken (except broken screw plastics), always working.
11) Overall I'm happy after the upgrade, and I would not choose 2S again due to (in my opinion) improved ergonomics and software.
I am surprised no one sue Logitech for false advertising of this mouse.
finally someone who actually records and points out issues I've been having ever since I got this God Forsaken Mouse lol! I honestly just end up using my trackpad on the mac and a g502 hero on my PC because I can't use the MX master 3s on anything without getting that jitter on my mac or pc with the bolt receiver as well.
Really? You have a newer version, 3s, and it still has a jitter problem?