SMTAV PTZ Cheap Church Camera - Good Budget Camera - Video Footage Included
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2021
- This is a review of the pricing for between the SMTAV PTZ 20x Camera Vs. PTZ Optics 20X - What you should know before you buy PTZ Optics.
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We also compare video footage between the SMTAV PTZ 20x and Canon HF G50.
Our livestream setup with Q&A: • Our Church Livestreami...
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Equipment we use:
PTZ Camera - SMTAV 20x Optical Zoom Full HD 1080p - amzn.to/3GGdnA0
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Canon HF G50 4K 30P - amzn.to/3uO9eYh
Other equipment we use:
AVKANS HDMI PTZ Camera, 30X - amzn.to/4aenfyx
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Elgato Cam Link 4K Capture Cards - amzn.to/3ThNq1x
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Blackmagic SDI to HDMI Converter - amzn.to/3t3cFKi
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Asus TUF A15 Gaming Laptop - amzn.to/47RGVqw
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Magnus VT-4000 Fluid Head Tripod - amzn.to/41jp2yy
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15 Key Elgato Stream Deck - amzn.to/3uO7w9j
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LEFTEK PTZ Controller - amzn.to/4aazxbo
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Comica Shotgun Microphone, CVM-VM20 - amzn.to/3Re1AxP
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Memory Card - amzn.to/41irDc4
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Tripod - amzn.to/489kDjJ
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Thank you brother. Great video! Helped me out and my church a whole lot!!! Don't be discouraged you made a big difference
Thank you! I’m glad to hear that it helped you guys! I appreciate the feedback brotha, it means a lot to me!
Great video, we just purchased this camera after watching all the reviews to complement our PTZ Optics camera.
Thank you so much! It’s a great camera! We love it.
Thanks for the review! We are looking at the HD30S from SMTAV to add to our existing PTZ Optics cameras.
To get some more height for your camera, you can take some 2 or 3 inch black ABS pipe from the hardware store. Get 2 matching end caps (they come flat on the end). Drill holes in the center of each end cap, JB Weld a 1/4 nut on the inside of one and a 1/4 bolt on the other. This gives you an extension you can add to your tripod. Or if you omit the bottom cap, you can just strap the pipe to a convenient surface back in the console area.
On a related thought. We have found that those watching online, really enjoy seeing the audience, so I try to include shots like that. We even added a cheap fixed camera (somewhat wide angle) at about 4 ft high and pointed a give a view of the platform and audience.
That’s a great idea! We’ve been thinking about setting up a go pro for our congregation view. Thanks for the input! 🤙
Thank you for sharing,we bought both SMTAV Camera and Prisual ptz camera the link you shared,much cost effective and works perfectly as PTZ optics.
That's great! I'm glad that it worked out for you! Thanks for sharing the feedback!
This is great, thanks. I've been considering a PTZ Optics camera for a few months, I just found out about the SMTAV cameras today, so is great to see your test footage in comparison with your Canon camera.
Thank you sir! I appreciate that. I’m glad you found the video useful! I’m definitely planning on putting out more content. Subscribe if you’re interested in following along. I appreciate the comment Ian. Are you planning on using a PTZ for church services or something else?
@@RevisionMedia for a church, I'm the volunteer tech coordinator, before Mar. 2020 we weren't regularly videoing or live streaming services, then pressed our Canon Vixia HF R400 into live streaming. It's served us well but it's not the best in low light and has no remote function. Our sanctuary seats about 200, the camera needs to be quite high up to get overtop of the congregation especially when they stand during worship, so I have been considering a PTZ camera mounted on the back wall behind the sound desk or from the ceiling. We resource well in other areas so the price of a PTZ Optics is fine, but if the SMTAV is basically a rebadge I can't ignore that.
Thank you. absolutely liked your video.
Thank you very much! I appreciate that!
Thank you guys for watching and for subscribing! I had some other projects going on that are soon coming to a close. If you can bare with me, I’ll be getting some new content out soon! I still have a controller to hook up 🤙
Thanks so much for the comparison. Our church is slowly moving towards ptz cameras, replacing a newer model Sony handycam and an older Canon Vixia. I was worried the picture wouldn't be as good in low light on the ptz's, but this is noticeably better quality. Obviously it's more than just the size of the sensor that makes the difference. I don't know how noisy the picture is in person, but for TH-cam it looks great. Very impressed.
Thanks for the comment. I do see a little noise in person but I don’t have the proper lighting scenario. We need to invest in some lighting in order to make the most of this camera.
@@RevisionMedia Our church was built in the early 1900s and we're very cautious to add lots of video gear that would take away from the ambience, so lighting will always be bit of an issue for us. I know we should probably go ptz, but don't want to cash out $5000+ for a comparable picture. After watching your video I'm more optimistic. Thanks again
Thanks for shearing! We bought SMTAV 30x cam. Supersatisfied! But, please do make a setup video :)
Will do! I’m glad you’re happy with the camera. We bought a second camera so I have that video coming soon too.
Nice video thanks
You're welcome! Thanks for watching friend!
Thank you brother
You’re very welcome!
Great video.
Thank you so much!
Good review, I’m interested to do the same as you at our Church. I’m also impressed you’re using OBS. Would like to see instructions on how you use multiple cameras on OBS to stream.
Well thank you! We have two cameras right now and are using capture cards. I’ll be posting a video about our set up soon. Thanks for reaching out!!
Great video. New Subscriber
Thanks brother! I appreciate that. I subscribed to your channel too. 🤙
Thank you for the video, subscribed.
One note, your background music in this video is somewhat distracting. Hope it was a bit lower 😊👍🏽
Thanks for the feedback. I got that a lot. I’m working on making that feel non-existent in the next few videos.
Great video, glad you pushed past your fear! May God continue to bless you as you serve Him!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the encouragement!
By the way, I love your channel design!
@@RevisionMedia thank you 😊
Same here.... new subscriber... great video
Thank you! I appreciate you!
excelente test
Thank you!
I just installed this and used it for the first time today. The worship color was great however, when zoomed in on me, it made me a bit washed out. Any suggestions on color adjusting?
How do I use audio from this camera through obs?
Great demonstration, thanks. The tune was quite distracting thouhg.
Thank you! Sorry about the music!
great video, thanks for making it looking to get one of these was also wondering whats name of the controller you had for the camera? To controller like zoom and focus etc
We are currently using the controller that came with it. In the near future we plan on using this controller. amzn.to/2R6HNVY
We have already purchased it, we just need to get it set up when I make some time. That video will be out too after I get it all set up.
@@RevisionMedia thanks for the reply. Sorry for the mistake I was referring to the g50 you had a controller on the tripod
@@RevisionMedia if you could attach a link to the controller you had on the tripod for the canon g50 please and thank you
@@SamuelAbubakar I am searching all over Amazon for the exact controller and I’m not having any luck today! I will find it for you tomorrow while I’m at the church. So sorry for the wait!
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Excellent input - thank you. A question ... what is the distance from the PTZ to the podium? I am thinking of the 20x vs 30x SMTAV PTZ cameras.
Thank you so much! The camera is about 50 feet away from the podium. The 20x works great but there are some close up shots that I get of people that are speaking and I’m zoomed all the way in.
Would the SMTAV camera be able to have a clear picture at a distance of 100'? That would be the farthest shot at our church? TIA
Thanks for the demo. We're updating from Canon Vixia r800s to PTZ cams. Please dump the background music.
Not a problem! Thanks for the input! The HF R800 is a pretty good camera! I think you’ll see a big difference between the R800 and the G50!
Did you use a remote control to operate that ptz camera
Hi !
Cool for brightness, video quality and pan/tilt preset.
But what about color correction and cameras settings ?
I think it has some really good color correction. With a good lighting set up, I’m sure you can dial it in exactly how you need it. I can make a video going through all of that as well!
@@RevisionMedia Do you use a wired 3D remote controller ?
I would like to know if it able to move in many direction at the same time whereas zoom in or zoom out.
Can we access to color correction and settings on a single remote for all cameras, or is it only by a Lan connexion ?
I use sometimes Birddog P200 and it’s really poor command connexion.
Color correction are to slow and not really responsive... for the price... it’s really not a good deal 😳😱
If you can do a video about cameras settings and color corrections it could really cool !
Thanks 🙏
@@timotheeroucou3508 you got it! I will make a video about that! You have some very good questions! Thanks for your input! I appreciate you!
can you place the smtav on a tripod?
i liked your video before watching just cuz
Well… thank you very much!
I like the quality of the image the SMATV produces. Just one question if I may...
Can it be controlled remotely either:
1. Through TeamViewer and logging into the connected computer
2. Through software on another computer connected to the internet
I haven’t tried it through something like team viewer. I imagine it wouldn’t be a problem since you can access the camera by entering its IP address in a computers internet browser that is on the same network. Theoretically, you could also perform this same function using a VPN software or something of the sort.
Something to consider... there will be some latency.
switch to a Window PC. lol Those camera work great from a cheap Win10 laptop. Works great with OBS. Team Viewer works great for controlling it through a mobile phone. Really any RDS (remote desktop software) seems to work great. Video Preview and everything gets to my mobile (I use android and my coworker uses iPhone)
@@nickloss2377 I don’t really feel that we have a cheap laptop. It’s the Asus A15 gaming laptop. By windows PC I’m guessing you are referring to a desktop PC? We had one of those but it definitely wasn’t built for streaming. Having the mobility of a laptop works best for our situation. Thanks for the comment! 🤙
Great vídeo. How do You connect the ptz your PC? How do You control them?
They can be controlled by an webpage?
Thank you! I connect with an HDMI and a capture card. amzn.to/3311Ibv
The camera comes with a small controller that looks like a TV remote. That’s what we are using right now. Soon I will be connecting it to a lefttek joystick controller. Yes, you are able to control on a webpage interface as well. This model of the camera is not WiFi so you do have to make sure that you can hardwire to your internet access point.
@@RevisionMedia thanks for the answer!!
@@GerardoFerral001 not a problem! Hope it helps 😎
Subscribed right away. Thanks for your video. I glad you gave a comparison with the Canon. We are in process of looking for the PTZ cameras and off course PTZOptics will come out as a best contender. I even called PTZOptics myself and they definitely have good support. I told them I have not bought their cameras but I wanted to make sure about NDI. I am very interested to know if SMTAV supports NDI. If it does then the price of this SMTAV is very encouraging because of the footage you just showed. Thanks for your efforts because like you I need to save money for the church. Lastly what controller IP joystick do you think is best SMTAV. We are thinking of going all IP base and possibly NDI in our streaming with OBS.
Thanks a ton!! I will find out if SMTAV supports NDI. If not directly, there might be a work around. We are going to set up the leftek controller for this camera. I put a link in the description if you want to see the specs. I’m going to be making a video about that very soon! Thank you so much for subscribing!
@@RevisionMedia Looks like the NDI version just dropped on Amazon. Search Amazon for B08DNKNCC8 (30X) and B08DNM1C6J (20X).
@@ccgnmediateam6161 awesome! I will do that. Thank you very much.
@@ccgnmediateam6161 was about to order a SMTAV 30x NDI a day ago but then look again today to order and they have updated everything and raised prices and also new pics. The new ones don't have the same casing as the PTZOptics models like before, so it's now unknown if they are still hardware clones of the PTZO. And the new higher price decreases the price advantage also.
What is the best way to run the audio? Any advice would be appreciated. Many blessings
We are using a digital soundboard from Allen and Heath. Its an SQ6 - amzn.to/3jKoIoe
We have a designated output for our livestream that feeds a Focusrite Scarlet Solo - amzn.to/3tltls3 and then plugs directly in to our computer. It’s a pretty simple setup. Hope that helps!
I'm having an issue where the camera is lagging behind. I tried checking my upload rate which is very fast (like 39.9) but whenever I'm inside the ip address interface the live image looks very off-timing. Any suggestions?
How are your camera and computer connected to the network? Also, are you trying to view the video preview during the time that you are live streaming? I noticed a pretty major delay in timing when I was trying to view the ip interface over WiFi. I still had a delay even hardwired. The best way to not have any latency would be to preview the video directly from the camera. Are you using software or hardware for switching/encoding?
Is the remote controller for the PTZ included with the unit?
The unit come with a smaller TV style remote that you can use to control the PTZ camera. If you want a bigger joystick remote, that’s a separate purchase. The camera comes with what you need to get started though. Thanks for reaching out!
After watching your video I am considering pairing a smtav with a Canon xa11. Will color be compatible??
I’m not 100% sure about that camera model. I know that a lot of people use different camera types and are able to color correct each camera and get them to match. Some of that is done through software processing. I like to just use the standard camera settings and adjust them in manual settings. Honestly, there is a difference in the camera coloring but can be managed. There are so many aspects that go into matching the color though. I.E. lighting, white balance, color correcting with a vector scope, and exposure just to name a few. I’m working on ours still and plan to have a video out for it! It’s definitely possible. I’m willing to put in the work to save a bit of money. Of course, the best option would be to get all the same cameras.
Something like this for color correction. amzn.to/3l3MIlP
How do you add that camera and another one together. I have a huddlecamhd
Right now I have them both connected to our laptop with one of these for each camera amzn.to/3BWHv6W if you current huddlecam already functions then you only need one of these to connect your second camera. If you want to use a different software to operate both cameras, we use OBS Studio. It’s free and there are a ton of helpful videos here on TH-cam.
Hello. I bought smtav 30x camera and a leftek s2controller and connected it directly with LAN, but it doesn't work. Can you tell me how? I have an IP address, but how do I find a port#?
We were using 80 as the port number and that seemed to work. I’m very behind on getting this video out but I’m going to have a walkthrough video for this very soon.
Which sdi to usb converter would you recommend?
I would recommend this capture card. amzn.to/3Hp7w39 it's the Elgato Camlink 4K. I've had some trouble with the cheap $20 capture cards.
Hello, how are these connected to each other or to the controller? Thanks
As of right now, we are using an elegato cam link to the computer amzn.to/3kIlQco with the cameras HDMI cable. We currently don’t have the controller hooked up but we are using the supplied remote controller that came with the camera.
The camera link is dead. Could you share the model number please? it is likely on a sticker on the bottom of the camera or on the box it came in. It would be helpful for folks who can't find it on Amazon to be able to source it from another store. Thanks!
Funny thing is, they don’t have that camera available any more. At least not right now. It’s almost as if they have secretly renamed it. But I’ve changed the link in the description and here’s the link. Its their full HD 1080 20X PTZ camera. amzn.to/3gWDDcb
I wish I would have known about this camera months ago! Any ideas on where I can get it now? Amazon doesn't have them any longer.
Did they stop again? I put in a new link in the description. Let me look into it a bit more and I’ll let you know. 🤙
@@RevisionMedia Perhaps, I should have worded it differently. It says currently unavailable.
Yeah it looks like they are running out of a bunch of their cameras. I found this and the crazy thing is, it looks just like the one we have. I think I’m going to buy it to compare! amzn.to/3xBIXJd it looks really close to the AVKANS as well. They all have the same Panasonic 1/2.7 Sensor so the quality will be the same.
@@RevisionMedia This one looks good too. I'm still trying to come up with the money to make it happen but I am hopeful!
@@sethnfrink that would be great! I’d love to know if you end up getting it!
Hy, From this video I see you are not using a video swither/mixer. I'd recomend buying a BMD Atem Mini Pro (ISO - if you have buget for it). I feel you are loosing quality... Also try lowering ISO on your Canon... (it will brighten your footage)..... play with the settings there ;). My honest oppinion is that the SMTAV has better lightening and exposure, but lower sharpness (from what i saw in the video)... check min 6:10 vs min 6:45... At our church we use a Canon XHG1 and a GoPro hero8 w MediaMode... and sometimes we have someone with some Panasonic mirrorless cams comming to help us out (GH4 and GH5). All the best and God Bless.
Thanks so much for the info! I’ll check in to it some more and play with it throughout the week. I agree about the SMTAV! Thanks for sharing friend!
@@RevisionMedia Pls share video with the adjustments you made. As you can see from our own live videos, we also struggle with lowlight and also far distance (10m~30ft). Another issue we struggle with is the lack of personal... this is why we are directing our attention to PTZ cameras... but PTZOptics and Panasonic are just too expensive for us.
BTW.... my name is Ciprian and I volunteer in this department at my chutch
@@maranathasuceava Ciprian, nice to meet you! I will definitely do that. I’ll start working on it very soon.
Getting other volunteers is a really hard thing to do as well. I finally recruited someone to help out because I had to go up on stage and represent/introduce our graduates. I found out later that I was muted the whole time in OBS and there was no sound the entire time I was up there. 😂
Do you go from one preset to another with your remote??
Yes, until I get the controller setup. For now the remote works just fine. It is an IR remote though so make sure you don’t have anything blocking the signal between your camera and your remote.
@@RevisionMedia so the way I'm going to have it set up as I'm sitting in the booth and I'll have to have the front of the unit facing me and then it'll be spinning around towards the back of the unit to film the stage.
That way I can point the remote-controlled towards the ir eye, and I imagine that the unit can spin around 360°?
Hi! I see 2 capture card device. What is this connected to?
We have a USB hub that connects to our laptop via USBC. It provides enough power to the hub so that we can plug in both capture cards. Here’s a link to what we are currently using. amzn.to/3fOALO2 Does this answer your question?
Oh… and hi 👋 😎
@@RevisionMedia thank you much!!
I purchased this camera and I am having problems with the camera focusing and the image is distorted at times. What could be the problem?
Is there a lot of subject movement or really poor lighting?
@@RevisionMedia I’m the pastor and yes I move a lot while I preach. Could the problem be with the video capture card? It’s a cheap one
Lighting is fair
@@jameshenry7974 is there any way that you can send me a short video clip? William.punt@outlook.com
If it were a problem with focus, the capture card wouldn’t be the problem. If there was a problem with the capture card, your image would freeze completely or you would have no image at all.
How does one know if the camera is 12x 20x or 30x?
Very good point! I’ll change that in the description and try and add an annotation. It is the 20X version of the SMTAV PTZ.
@@RevisionMedia No was wondering once you buy the camera, how do you get to know which zoom it is, i cannot see it anywhere, it has only a sticker but nowhere else, which means it can be anything. i've seen somewhere that the 20x is actually 12x
Would you recommend this camera?
I would highly recommend the SMTAV PTZ camera. 🤙 I’m loving it.
Thank you
@@ismaelandrade8177 you’re welcome!
Can't wait for your next video great job!
@@ismaelandrade8177 I appreciate that very much!
The ptz camera still has a ton of noise. The image is crawling on the chair backs and the wood back wall. I have a feeling they use a much smaller sensor than ptz optics and then push the iso way up. Although I'm sure it's more than good enough in a worship situation.
It is definitely better than the canon, but that isn't saying much as the hf lineup has never been good indoors.
I'd be interested to see a head to head between the ptz optics and the cheap one.
Thanks a ton for your feedback! I know that our lighting situation isn’t the best and I can play around with some settings as well. Although, you’re probably right about the sensor. I’ll do what I can to get a head to head comparison. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to comment! 🤙
@@RevisionMedia Honestly, I think it's fine. My mother reads for our her church so I watch that every now and then. It pretty much looks like they use a potato for a camera, but they still have thousands of views. They would be lucky to have that camera, actually, they'd be lucky to have the canon... Lol.
I've been looking for a ptz camera for live streaming where iq is very important. It's kinda frustrating. I might just end up hacking a gimbal and using a bmpcc camera on it...
@@herranton well we definitely feel lucky to have this camera! Hacking a gimbal might not be a bad idea! 😂 I’d love to see how that goes.
According to both their spec sheets its the same Panasonic sensor & size.
I'm going to test it against my two identical PTZ Optics cameras when I finally get some time to run the ethernet cable through the attic.
Very interesting 🤔 I’m trying to get my hands on a PTZ Optics to do the same! That’s great information! Thanks for looking into that!
Very good comparison, but please remove background music. Very annoying and unnecessary!
I got that comment a lot. Unfortunately, without removing the video and re-uploading it, I can’t do that. I appreciate the honest feedback!
SMTAV supports NDI, but you must by a $300 license from the company. Not sure if it is worth it. May try just using rstp and see if that works, or just go SDI.
Thanks for the info! I do think I’ll just stick with SDI. That’s most likely $300 per device?
Yes, per device. They are currently having a "sale" where it is $250 per camera. So, if you want NDI, now is probably the time to do it. As mentioned, I decided to stick with an SDI connection for the reliability factor.
@@DonHearth I’ll probably just stick to that as well. Plus there is a bit more latency with NDI that I can do without. 😂
@@DonHearth have you tested rstp yet? I've been thinking about NDI too as I'm already using it to send lyrics and overlay slides from the slides computer to the streaming computer, but we really don't need it as I could run HDMI to the camera, it just might be nice to have network video.
@@TorquilMcLeod Yes, it works great (of course, I was using a gigabit switch over a private network designed specifically for the video). There is a 500 to 750 millisecond delay using rstp, which did not make it practical for my usage. I needed the reliability of SDI, knowing that once the cables were run, they were going to "just work". In retrospect, I am glad that I went this direction.
I have been using three of these cameras for a couple of weeks now (using VMIX) streaming my church's service. So far, no real complaints. They handle low-light situations well. I need to do some color correction, due to our auditorium's poor lighting. I have been using an IP camera joystick to control the cameras, and that is working great too, but it is up to 5 button presses to change a camera's position. I am going to be adding a stream deck to my setup next week, so I can move each camera to a desired location with one button press. I have seen others do this on TH-cam with the PTZOptic cameras, so I am hoping these work as easily.
Is it just me or does the Canon look better? The PTZ camera is grainy and the frames are blurred together.
I feel like the Canon is definitely close to being better. Getting the color/ white balance dialed in has been the hardest part of using this camera. I’m sure it’s also partially due to the fact that I have the camera stationed about 50 ft. away from the stage.
No music next time. Please
Thanks for your input.
ptzcamera has a great quality, but their price is shocking
I agree! A little overpriced if you ask me.
Do you have an email address you can share?
I do. It’s William.punt@outlook.com
It looks WAY worse than the canon. Youre out of your mind
I’d love to learn why you think that. Do you have any specifics?