It has to be documented properly for easier handoff in the event that said thing happens. Also, some churches have this as a paid position to retain talent.
Been there... I made a major setup then had to do a step by step manual for the Volunteers and the person that was in charge after I left. Now let me check their website and see what all this do... extreme geek setup.
Is amazing behind the scene in church great job work hard I proud you amazing lights and concert organizers wow people still love you never dark goes to light I faith you amen
Whew! That was too much info! Love watching it even though I do not understand most of it. This guy is a genius! An every pastor dream to have in church.
That’s an awesome setup bro! God has really Blessed you with a lot computer knowledge. Such a Blessing to know that you are using it for the Lords Glory. 🙏🏾 God Bless
Yeah, all the cameras look like they left it on auto, there’s a lot of harsh lights, the lighting isn’t too pleasing for the stream, skin tones aren’t as clear, many people use vMix to run their live streams but don’t bother to color correct. But over all, they do have a really good setup.
It’s actually quite easy to understand all of that, setup, all you need is knowledge of computer, and sound mixer, network it’s the easiest part, and yes, that setup is made for professional use, and cost money, I remember in our church, we upgraded video cameras, each was $15,000 dollars, we had 3 of them, I personally built sound operator room, run all wires, did all network, except back in 2000s there was no Alexa, so I need to walk through the church and turn on all lights. Then we built custom video processing desktop, later we finally bought our own satellite channel, so we did live video streaming on TV channel WORLDWIDE! That was awesome! And to be honest, actually all of our desktop computers was actually custom built, with water cooling systems, and reason for that, it’s super quiet, back in 2000 each cost to built roughly 5 to 8 thousand dollars, including our own server 100,000 GB, with solid state hard drives. However it still less than this guys have, we didn’t project anything on screen during worship, and he got automated video cameras, we have 4 guys standing with cameras, and a video operator have manual video switcher, and walkie talkie in each cameraman ear, so we can communicate with operator. Now, it’s a lot better. We actually have a guy, who literally was making actual custom built video software, specifically for our church, it took him almost a year to complete, and it’s actually only one of a kind, and only 1 copy exists. No one knows anything about it.
1. Absolutely awesome equipment. 2. There's no way I'd be able to consistently have the man power on a weekly basis to run the system. 3. Why use an SLR instead of a Canon Vixia or something comparable? 4. I sure hope your entire team is trained in case you go on vacation or anything lol
Amazgin setup. Truly amazing....but there is always a little safety in having volunteers and actual person redundancy in case this brilliant individual is unavailable to troubleshoot, which is always the bigger issue when things go weird...and they do. I have gotten some great gear and implementation ideas from this video, so THANK YOU!
Congrats on creating an automated church function. I just don't see how this will allow for any spontaneity and flow. I feel like there's so much that could make this go wrong in a live production. However I do like some elements that you have incorporated and will look into them myself.
Seems a little over complicated, but if it works, GREAT! I run 3 cameras at my church all on SDI to a blackmagic switcher. Audio is mixed on an ilive console. Super simple setup, and works great as well.
I get the feeling a lot of these videos are just for these guys to show off. Yeah, it looks neat but HOW IS IT CONNECTED? I never see cable runs and connector types and schematics. It's just a lot of jibber jabber about this hardware and this software and "yeah" "um" and "cool"
Love watching how people go about things in different ways to get a good live stream out - this is very innovative. One thing that makes me a bit nervous is how much backup for PCs/Macs falling over - I had a PC decide to reboot once during a live stream which was at the time running Livestream Studio to do the switching, FX and streaming. Needless to say this meant a delay of quite a few minutes whilst everything came back online. I now have redundancy in the system, with an ATEM Television Studio and a hardware streamer (AJA HELO) waiting to instantaneously take over should the worse happen. For peace of mind I recommend a backup system for all live work.
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If we need a media set up in heaven I think it's safe to say this would be it. Very Well Done. I just hope you can go on vacation and somebody know what to do lol.
I grew up in a church that (at the time) had conservative music, no band. We had a choir, a few vocal groups, piano and organ..... not a B3 :( and a Yamaha KX-88 midi controller keyboard that accessed a number of sound modules in the music director's office via midi. I once had a debate with a congregant because he thought guitars and midi keyboards (symfacizers) were the devil's instruments. I said, come over here Bob, I want to show you something.... I opened the Rodgers organ lid and proceeded to tell him that he was calling our newly acquired midi keyboard a "symfacizer" and that the correct way to pronounce that word was "synthesizer". I told him that the word "synthesizer" got it's name from the word synthetic... (not real, fake, imitation) his response.... "OH!". I then showed him the stops on the organ, see this one??? trumpet, see this one, trombone, see this one, flute, see this one, violin... etc. etc... I could tell he didn't like where I was going. See Bob, this organ cost the church over twenty thousand dollars, and it uses transistors, resistors, diodes, capacitors and IC chips to imitate these different instrumental sounds, in fact, it produces, fake, imitations of sounds that are not real, and a multi-million dollar pipe organ is no different, just different parts. This organ that sits here in a beautiful walnut case is no different than our synthesizers and the midi keyboard that together produces the sounds of our choosing. He stormed off and said... "that organ is God's instrument, and it was dedicated to "His" service,... that symfacizer was not. I closed the organ lid and shook my head and realized just how closed minded he was. So, I took the time to type all this to say,... I watched this video, and was not surprised at all or amazed at the intricacy of this church's video, lighting and sound system. Complex compared to many churches??? sure... but I knew as soon as it was over and I began reading the comments out of curiosity that immediately,,,,, here it goes.... all this technical stuff is overshadowing what church is supposed to be about.... or something like that, just another Bob with a Bible growing out of his armpit. I am a Christian, and I am not perfect, far from it, but I have learned something that the "Bobs" of the church have not learned... as long as the church has members and visitors who like to worship their Savior in that facility, then they are honoring God. I believe that God adores their worship, and takes whatever worship and adoration He can get from us. Just because we don't like that kind of "devil music" as Bob would put it, does not mean that those people are being mislead by the technology. As long as the pastor preaches the gospel, and helps people to become better Christians, then I say they are doing something right, especially when you consider how many "conservative" churches with just a piano and organ are starving for more members. Personally, I prefer a huge pipe organ and a choir with great voices like this,..... th-cam.com/video/kkXI-8no9ZE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=St.OlafCollege that is what causes me to enter into a state of worship, likely because it is the style of music that I was raised on. But,... drums, bass, guitars, keys and a praise team of singers is certainly capable of leading a congregation into true, genuine worship. I have learned to not criticize HOW people worship as long as they are praising God, no matter what the tempo, key, volume or even if the midi CC# is 127 for the master volume. :) I say, within reason, we should do whatever it takes to help people worship during the music part of a service. Ultimately, the musician's job is to "set the stage" for the Pastor's spoken word. Just sayin :) God bless us everyone :)
I agree. My church has guitars, piano and different types of drums. Though I don't support rap in the church. A Christian Professor once said answering a question about how music should go in church, and he responded, "You need to find a balance for all ages, the youth and the older ones, music needs to lead all of the congregation into worship. There needs to be a balance to lead the youth and also those of older age." God bless you, have a wonderful day 🙏🙏🙏
In our church we have 2 "traditional" services and a "modern" service every Sunday. During the traditional services, the only instruments are generally piano and the organ and occasionally some brass and woodwind. During the modern services we have guitars and drums and all that.
Nice job! One question, given the amount of things that you do in series software rather than dedicated hardware; how often do you have a minor issue or catastrophic failure requiring a partial reset? We have a small (about 6,500 sq foot recording and broadcast studio, but we do a lot of those things with dedicated Dante, Blackmagic and other hardware. Obviously we use software where we have to, but we found that the complexity of operating systems and third party software interactions cause a wide range of audio, video, synchronization, lock-up, memory leaks, and other issues, which we eliminated by using dedicated hardware.
Awesome video hey! Installed a number of live stream set ups for churches now. While some churches have many skilled parishioners, they are not present all services so auto on hardware as much as possible. Yes you can do so much more in the software, but if the operator (all volunteers) doesn’t get it or how it’s dependant to troubleshoot, it will quickly resort back to the static video feed. Love the MIDI over IP.
His genius is from God, there is a difference. There is genius from money. Not everything revolves for or from the money but everything revolves from God. Including your next breath. So just don’t go there, if the guys does it for the money or freely. What is it profit you if you gain all the money you want but lose your soul .
@@Calvarydima the word says a workman is worthy of his hire. Indeed we do things for God in his kingdom but I get SO sick and tired of people blabbing about how we should do everything for God for free. That's just a lame excuse for the church to be cheap and stingy. God is not like that!
@@Calvarydima One would have to believe in a fictional character at that point. For all of us that live in the real world, we have to pay bills using money that we earn from skills that we worked our asses off to learn. So, just don't go there saying this guy learned everything from god. This guy nerds out of TH-cam learning about all this tech stuff just like the rest of us.
I'm having an issue with the colors on these cameras.. Getting 3 PTZ optics for a church but I'm getting nervous about the colors. It's been hard to find good footage. In this video at the end you can see when they go to the GH5 angle and the shot looks better. Also see a lot of shake from the subs on the PTZ Optics; this is another concern for me.
This video is really awesome, I have questions on how the connected with network... CAMERA, iphone control, stage lyrics control, Pls do some separate video on conections. Thanks. 🙏🙏🙏
What you have in equipment in the 2X4 rack is worth more than most small church's complete budget for a year. to have the funds to setup a system like this would be nice I am luck to have two guys to run the system now, one for streaming and audio and the second to handle the presentation side of things; in a pinch one guy can do it with few of camera changes. I like the PTZ cameras the cost of a license to single cable is steep at $600 each.
God bless, could you please list the equipment that you use for sound for the streaming (example the sound receiver equipment) it would be really helpful for my church. Thanks
Hi! The delay experienced with a video transmitter for IMAG (Image Magnification) can vary significantly based on the specific equipment used, its quality, the technology it employs, and the setup's complexity. IMAG is particularly sensitive to delay because it requires near real-time projection or display of live video to maintain synchronicity with the live action, especially in a live event or worship service context. Here's an overview of factors influencing delay: 1. Type of Video Transmitter: Wireless vs. Wired: Wireless transmitters generally have more latency compared to wired connections. The delay can range from a few milliseconds to over a second. Technology Used: Technologies like HDMI, SDI, NDI, or HDBaseT have different latency profiles. For example, NDI can offer low latency transmission over a network. 2. Quality and Specifications of Equipment: Higher-end equipment typically offers faster processing and transmission, resulting in lower latency. The resolution and frame rate being transmitted also impact delay - higher resolutions and frame rates may increase latency. 3. Distance and Obstructions (for Wireless): Longer distances and physical obstructions can increase latency in wireless systems. Line-of-sight transmission generally offers the lowest latency in wireless setups. 4. Network Infrastructure (for Network-Based Transmitters): Network speed, quality, and traffic play a significant role in delay for network-based video transmission like NDI. A dedicated and optimized network can help minimize latency. 5. Processing and Conversion: Any processing (like scaling, conversion, or encoding/decoding) adds to the delay. Devices that perform these tasks with high efficiency can reduce latency. Typical Latency Ranges: 1. Professional Equipment: High-quality professional transmitters designed for live production might offer latency as low as a few milliseconds (almost imperceptible). 2. Consumer-Grade Equipment: More affordable or consumer-grade solutions might have higher latency, noticeable in a live setting. Reducing Latency for IMAG: 1. Use professional-grade equipment specifically designed for live production. 2. Optimize network settings and infrastructure for network-based solutions. 3. Minimize the distance and obstructions in wireless setups. 4. Reduce on-the-fly processing or use equipment that handles processing efficiently. Conclusion: The delay in a video transmitter system for IMAG can range from negligible to significant, heavily influenced by the type of technology, equipment quality, and setup configuration. For IMAG, where synchronicity is crucial, aiming for the lowest possible latency is essential. Testing the setup under real conditions before the actual event is highly recommended to ensure the delay is within acceptable limits.
I want to buy some second hand usb cameras. I am looking at Vaddio and I don´t know if this camera are good enough to get same quality as you have. What cameras do you have?
there is so much he is the only one that could use that system. if one thing goes out the who system crash. its a complicated system for anyone else but him
Curious... Doesn't the Hollyland camera wireless system produce latency? I have a single Hollyland Mars 300 pro and I am getting about 0.25 seconds of latency. How are they overcoming latency in their wireless setup?
I use the Hollyland 300 Pro at my church, and I fix it in my streaming software (OBS). I delay the incoming audio so that it arrives in my stream at the same time as my video and that will remove any audio / video syncing issues. God bless.
Hey Logan, vMix is a live production software that is natively designed for Windows and does not have a direct version for macOS. However, Mac users can still run vMix using one of the following methods: 1. Boot Camp Description: Boot Camp is a utility provided by Apple that allows you to install Windows on a separate partition of your Mac's hard drive. This way, you can boot your Mac into either macOS or Windows. Process: Install Boot Camp Assistant (included with macOS). Use Boot Camp to partition your hard drive and install Windows. Once Windows is installed, boot into Windows on your Mac. Install vMix in the Windows environment. Pros: Full performance of your Mac hardware. Cons: Requires rebooting to switch between macOS and Windows; requires a valid Windows license. 2. Virtual Machine Software Description: Use virtual machine software like Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion to run Windows in a virtual environment within macOS. Process: Install the virtual machine software on your Mac. Install Windows within the virtual machine. Install vMix within the Windows environment in the virtual machine. Pros: Allows running Windows and macOS simultaneously; easy to switch between operating systems. Cons: May not offer the same performance as a native Windows system; requires a valid Windows license. 3. Cloud-Based Streaming Solutions Description: Use a cloud-based streaming computer that runs Windows and vMix. You remotely control this system from your Mac. Process: Rent a cloud-based Windows server (like AWS, Azure, or similar services). Install and set up vMix on the cloud server. Access and control the server remotely from your Mac. Pros: No need to install Windows on your Mac; can access your setup from anywhere. Cons: Requires a fast and stable internet connection; ongoing cost for cloud server rental. Important Considerations Performance: Running vMix on a virtual machine or via Boot Camp on a Mac may not offer the same performance as running it on a dedicated Windows machine, especially for resource-intensive production tasks. Compatibility: Ensure that your Mac’s hardware specifications meet vMix’s system requirements. Windows License: Running Windows, whether via Boot Camp or a virtual machine, requires a valid Windows license. Conclusion While running vMix natively on macOS is not an option, using Boot Camp, virtual machine software, or a cloud-based solution are viable methods to operate vMix on a Mac. Each approach has its advantages and considerations, so the best method will depend on your specific needs and resources.
I'm curious why you insert a klark-teknik box for your aes-50 run to the broadcast room instead of just using the aes directly from FOH x32 rack? Are you further than 300'?
And for tonight, god is a DJ. This is quite crazy. Now is there any difference between the livestream of your favorite band and your church service? Probably it becomes all the same. Reminds me of Eric Clapton as the priest in Tommy, the musical film by The Who.
I'm impressed how he managed to think all of this. There must be like 10 computers running audio, video and lights but you just need 3-4 people working in backstage. Ptz cameras are great for standing shots but the set needs more agility for close-ups, like they do. This is a very expensive gear for a church led by young people.
They certainly had alot of tech, but IMO they could reduce the amount of tech they have and still keep the same production. some of the stuff like. 3x behringer x32-racks but still bought a s32 stage box? a dedicated Ableton Live session just for vocals? I think alot of this could be consolidated with less equipment while keeping the same functionality
Plan on at least $75,000ish. That doesn't include the LED walls or anything on the stage. You can get away cheaper depending on what cameras you use and what switcher you end up going with.
@@TimoSund we just priced an entire video system with 3 really nice cameras and it turned out to be around 50ish. Be sure to call a rep from the company instead of just ordering online. Sometimes they can get you deals.
wow, my dream church, from a technical stand point :)
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We loved seeing how you used CMG on your screens during the worship at the end.
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After he left, no one at church will know how to operate the whole system
It has to be documented properly for easier handoff in the event that said thing happens. Also, some churches have this as a paid position to retain talent.
He scares me, genious like this makes me nervous, I have so much work to do to catch up. So inspiring.
Been there... I made a major setup then had to do a step by step manual for the Volunteers and the person that was in charge after I left.
Now let me check their website and see what all this do... extreme geek setup.
I was just thinking about how complex that all is
I'm currently in that situation you're talking about right now 😂
I'm also teaching 5 guys to do separate jobs so they wouldn't be overwhelmed.
How you want to smile when ever you show a new Equipment 😅 love it. absolute extreme setup for a church 👌
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And then he sings....... holy moly. You are incredible.
im suprised too
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Is amazing behind the scene in church great job work hard I proud you amazing lights and concert organizers wow people still love you never dark goes to light I faith you amen
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Whew! That was too much info! Love watching it even though I do not understand most of it. This guy is a genius! An every pastor dream to have in church.
Is there anything this guy can’t do, Very impressive , I need a course on every other work spoken, Gismo’s are us, hours of fun
i agree this was amazing, very smart lad
Magnificent set up. WOW!
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Absolutely Incredible setup !!!
Great job keep it up Gid bless you
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That’s an awesome setup bro! God has really Blessed you with a lot computer knowledge. Such a Blessing to know that you are using it for the Lords Glory. 🙏🏾 God Bless
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I’ll be honest, I don’t think the camera quality matches the amount of tech in this church...
To paraphrase another TH-camr "People will watch "poor" quality video if the audio is good... but the reverse is not true.
BTW the video quality is perfectly adequate, no doubt the cost to setup up would be significant
RIGHT! it kinda looks like cellphone quality and for the amount they paid for those cameras they could have gotten full ursa mini kits
@@simonsaucy Definitely!!!!
Yeah, all the cameras look like they left it on auto, there’s a lot of harsh lights, the lighting isn’t too pleasing for the stream, skin tones aren’t as clear, many people use vMix to run their live streams but don’t bother to color correct. But over all, they do have a really good setup.
Amazing video! Love the technology you guys create!
Thanks so much!
When you mentioned "automation" you just grabbed my attention. Watching now.
Insane set up!
Thanks for your live streaming....
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This is Amazing. We Praise The Lord
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What an Amazing setup! Your computer knowledge and setting up the equipment are remarkable.
It's an impressive set up!
What an amazing system!!! I'm in shock.
It’s actually quite easy to understand all of that, setup, all you need is knowledge of computer, and sound mixer, network it’s the easiest part, and yes, that setup is made for professional use, and cost money, I remember in our church, we upgraded video cameras, each was $15,000 dollars, we had 3 of them, I personally built sound operator room, run all wires, did all network, except back in 2000s there was no Alexa, so I need to walk through the church and turn on all lights. Then we built custom video processing desktop, later we finally bought our own satellite channel, so we did live video streaming on TV channel WORLDWIDE! That was awesome! And to be honest, actually all of our desktop computers was actually custom built, with water cooling systems, and reason for that, it’s super quiet, back in 2000 each cost to built roughly 5 to 8 thousand dollars, including our own server 100,000 GB, with solid state hard drives. However it still less than this guys have, we didn’t project anything on screen during worship, and he got automated video cameras, we have 4 guys standing with cameras, and a video operator have manual video switcher, and walkie talkie in each cameraman ear, so we can communicate with operator. Now, it’s a lot better. We actually have a guy, who literally was making actual custom built video software, specifically for our church, it took him almost a year to complete, and it’s actually only one of a kind, and only 1 copy exists. No one knows anything about it.
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1. Absolutely awesome equipment.
2. There's no way I'd be able to consistently have the man power on a weekly basis to run the system.
3. Why use an SLR instead of a Canon Vixia or something comparable?
4. I sure hope your entire team is trained in case you go on vacation or anything lol
Haha - I haven't had a day off since February because of point 4.
The reality of the "manpower" required is often lost on leadership seeking to be an "Online Church". There are few if any shortcuts.
One of the unspoken truths of running tech at church is lack of manpower.
Plot twist: He's also the pastor 😂
@@ralphjosephrjm326 whoaaa 😶😶
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Amazgin setup. Truly amazing....but there is always a little safety in having volunteers and actual person redundancy in case this brilliant individual is unavailable to troubleshoot, which is always the bigger issue when things go weird...and they do. I have gotten some great gear and implementation ideas from this video, so THANK YOU!
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Hope he has this all documented.....if he ever left does bare thinking about
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Congrats on creating an automated church function. I just don't see how this will allow for any spontaneity and flow. I feel like there's so much that could make this go wrong in a live production.
However I do like some elements that you have incorporated and will look into them myself.
I agree
I agree…
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Seems a little over complicated, but if it works, GREAT! I run 3 cameras at my church all on SDI to a blackmagic switcher. Audio is mixed on an ilive console. Super simple setup, and works great as well.
I thought I was pretty familiar with tech until the several times in this video where I thought he was speaking a different language.
Same here
I get the feeling a lot of these videos are just for these guys to show off. Yeah, it looks neat but HOW IS IT CONNECTED? I never see cable runs and connector types and schematics. It's just a lot of jibber jabber about this hardware and this software and "yeah" "um" and "cool"
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Wow am learning from the best
Theee best!
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These are a lot of equipments. I like all the automations done by MIDI.
They have an amazing set up!
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What an awesome setup, when I grow up I want to be like you! Techy. You must be in demand for assistance.
It's a amazing set up!
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Love watching how people go about things in different ways to get a good live stream out - this is very innovative. One thing that makes me a bit nervous is how much backup for PCs/Macs falling over - I had a PC decide to reboot once during a live stream which was at the time running Livestream Studio to do the switching, FX and streaming. Needless to say this meant a delay of quite a few minutes whilst everything came back online. I now have redundancy in the system, with an ATEM Television Studio and a hardware streamer (AJA HELO) waiting to instantaneously take over should the worse happen. For peace of mind I recommend a backup system for all live work.
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What a setup. so nice!
It really is!
this is so amazing it is dizzying !
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Ok, I don't know why I never thought about the Keyboard Legs but that's brilliant.
It's a amazing set up!
Wow this is a crazy setup man, i'd love to come experience it live when the world is open again. I would take away so much from this...
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Nice!!
Crazy set up, right?!
I am blown out
Crazy set up!
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Very helpful!!
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great stuff man 👌
Wow!
wowzers
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Well done. Get the message of Christ out there.
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If we need a media set up in heaven I think it's safe to say this would be it. Very Well Done. I just hope you can go on vacation and somebody know what to do lol.
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I grew up in a church that (at the time) had conservative music, no band. We had a choir, a few vocal groups, piano and organ..... not a B3 :( and a Yamaha KX-88 midi controller keyboard that accessed a number of sound modules in the music director's office via midi. I once had a debate with a congregant because he thought guitars and midi keyboards (symfacizers) were the devil's instruments. I said, come over here Bob, I want to show you something.... I opened the Rodgers organ lid and proceeded to tell him that he was calling our newly acquired midi keyboard a "symfacizer" and that the correct way to pronounce that word was "synthesizer". I told him that the word "synthesizer" got it's name from the word synthetic... (not real, fake, imitation) his response.... "OH!". I then showed him the stops on the organ, see this one??? trumpet, see this one, trombone, see this one, flute, see this one, violin... etc. etc... I could tell he didn't like where I was going. See Bob, this organ cost the church over twenty thousand dollars, and it uses transistors, resistors, diodes, capacitors and IC chips to imitate these different instrumental sounds, in fact, it produces, fake, imitations of sounds that are not real, and a multi-million dollar pipe organ is no different, just different parts. This organ that sits here in a beautiful walnut case is no different than our synthesizers and the midi keyboard that together produces the sounds of our choosing. He stormed off and said... "that organ is God's instrument, and it was dedicated to "His" service,... that symfacizer was not. I closed the organ lid and shook my head and realized just how closed minded he was. So, I took the time to type all this to say,... I watched this video, and was not surprised at all or amazed at the intricacy of this church's video, lighting and sound system. Complex compared to many churches??? sure... but I knew as soon as it was over and I began reading the comments out of curiosity that immediately,,,,, here it goes.... all this technical stuff is overshadowing what church is supposed to be about.... or something like that, just another Bob with a Bible growing out of his armpit. I am a Christian, and I am not perfect, far from it, but I have learned something that the "Bobs" of the church have not learned... as long as the church has members and visitors who like to worship their Savior in that facility, then they are honoring God. I believe that God adores their worship, and takes whatever worship and adoration He can get from us. Just because we don't like that kind of "devil music" as Bob would put it, does not mean that those people are being mislead by the technology. As long as the pastor preaches the gospel, and helps people to become better Christians, then I say they are doing something right, especially when you consider how many "conservative" churches with just a piano and organ are starving for more members. Personally, I prefer a huge pipe organ and a choir with great voices like this,..... th-cam.com/video/kkXI-8no9ZE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=St.OlafCollege that is what causes me to enter into a state of worship, likely because it is the style of music that I was raised on. But,... drums, bass, guitars, keys and a praise team of singers is certainly capable of leading a congregation into true, genuine worship. I have learned to not criticize HOW people worship as long as they are praising God, no matter what the tempo, key, volume or even if the midi CC# is 127 for the master volume. :) I say, within reason, we should do whatever it takes to help people worship during the music part of a service. Ultimately, the musician's job is to "set the stage" for the Pastor's spoken word. Just sayin :) God bless us everyone :)
I agree. My church has guitars, piano and different types of drums. Though I don't support rap in the church. A Christian Professor once said answering a question about how music should go in church, and he responded, "You need to find a balance for all ages, the youth and the older ones, music needs to lead all of the congregation into worship. There needs to be a balance to lead the youth and also those of older age." God bless you, have a wonderful day 🙏🙏🙏
@@JVsetlike well said LGD, and with so many less words than my "comment" :)
In our church we have 2 "traditional" services and a "modern" service every Sunday. During the traditional services, the only instruments are generally piano and the organ and occasionally some brass and woodwind. During the modern services we have guitars and drums and all that.
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Looks fantastic and very functional. Could it be simplified tho?
Nice job! One question, given the amount of things that you do in series software rather than dedicated hardware; how often do you have a minor issue or catastrophic failure requiring a partial reset?
We have a small (about 6,500 sq foot recording and broadcast studio, but we do a lot of those things with dedicated Dante, Blackmagic and other hardware. Obviously we use software where we have to, but we found that the complexity of operating systems and third party software interactions cause a wide range of audio, video, synchronization, lock-up, memory leaks, and other issues, which we eliminated by using dedicated hardware.
Awesome video hey! Installed a number of live stream set ups for churches now. While some churches have many skilled parishioners, they are not present all services so auto on hardware as much as possible. Yes you can do so much more in the software, but if the operator (all volunteers) doesn’t get it or how it’s dependant to troubleshoot, it will quickly resort back to the static video feed. Love the MIDI over IP.
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Also what software to run audio template?
Not sure what they use, but we use vMix in our studio.
Dude, awesome live autotune fx. You've dialled that to perfection.👍
Amazing set up!
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Hope this guy makes the money he deserves and is not taken advantage of by this church like a lot of "church" tech people.
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His genius is from God, there is a difference. There is genius from money. Not everything revolves for or from the money but everything revolves from God.
Including your next breath. So just don’t go there, if the guys does it for the money or freely. What is it profit you if you gain all the money you want but lose your soul .
@@Calvarydima the word says a workman is worthy of his hire. Indeed we do things for God in his kingdom but I get SO sick and tired of people blabbing about how we should do everything for God for free. That's just a lame excuse for the church to be cheap and stingy. God is not like that!
@@Calvarydima One would have to believe in a fictional character at that point. For all of us that live in the real world, we have to pay bills using money that we earn from skills that we worked our asses off to learn. So, just don't go there saying this guy learned everything from god. This guy nerds out of TH-cam learning about all this tech stuff just like the rest of us.
How often does that guitar get knocked over? Curious
I'm having an issue with the colors on these cameras.. Getting 3 PTZ optics for a church but I'm getting nervous about the colors.
It's been hard to find good footage. In this video at the end you can see when they go to the GH5 angle and the shot looks better.
Also see a lot of shake from the subs on the PTZ Optics; this is another concern for me.
How's your three camera set up for you church? Any updates for us?
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I am blown away by this device. Can we invite you to implement such a device in our community?
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Where can I find that desk is for the keyboard 🎹 just for that adjustable..
It's a awesome set up!
This video is really awesome,
I have questions on how the connected with network... CAMERA, iphone control, stage lyrics control,
Pls do some separate video on conections.
Thanks. 🙏🙏🙏
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Dude is mega smart
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“Apparently, i never been on live television “ 🤘🏼
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Wow. awesome setup. How can I get in touch with you privately
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What you have in equipment in the 2X4 rack is worth more than most small church's complete budget for a year. to have the funds to setup a system like this would be nice I am luck to have two guys to run the system now, one for streaming and audio and the second to handle the presentation side of things; in a pinch one guy can do it with few of camera changes. I like the PTZ cameras the cost of a license to single cable is steep at $600 each.
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10/10 for effort. 😂
This set up is crazy, we love it!
Just wow! So are you able to take any sick leave/vacation leave yet or are there other people who knows how it all works?
Actually a sad amount of automatisation if you ask me. Takes the individuality out of it, but that is just my opinion.
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God bless, could you please list the equipment that you use for sound for the streaming (example the sound receiver equipment) it would be really helpful for my church. Thanks
He mentioned it. A Behringer X32 Rack audio mixer. They have 3 - one for FoH mix, one for IEM's and one for the stream
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From this i see the evangelicals give way more than the Catholics during the collection LOL
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talent team
They sure are!
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Awesome! And where is the elevator to heaven? 😉
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How’s the delay on the video transmitter for imag
Hi!
The delay experienced with a video transmitter for IMAG (Image Magnification) can vary significantly based on the specific equipment used, its quality, the technology it employs, and the setup's complexity. IMAG is particularly sensitive to delay because it requires near real-time projection or display of live video to maintain synchronicity with the live action, especially in a live event or worship service context. Here's an overview of factors influencing delay:
1. Type of Video Transmitter:
Wireless vs. Wired: Wireless transmitters generally have more latency compared to wired connections. The delay can range from a few milliseconds to over a second.
Technology Used: Technologies like HDMI, SDI, NDI, or HDBaseT have different latency profiles. For example, NDI can offer low latency transmission over a network.
2. Quality and Specifications of Equipment:
Higher-end equipment typically offers faster processing and transmission, resulting in lower latency.
The resolution and frame rate being transmitted also impact delay - higher resolutions and frame rates may increase latency.
3. Distance and Obstructions (for Wireless):
Longer distances and physical obstructions can increase latency in wireless systems.
Line-of-sight transmission generally offers the lowest latency in wireless setups.
4. Network Infrastructure (for Network-Based Transmitters):
Network speed, quality, and traffic play a significant role in delay for network-based video transmission like NDI.
A dedicated and optimized network can help minimize latency.
5. Processing and Conversion:
Any processing (like scaling, conversion, or encoding/decoding) adds to the delay. Devices that perform these tasks with high efficiency can reduce latency.
Typical Latency Ranges:
1. Professional Equipment: High-quality professional transmitters designed for live production might offer latency as low as a few milliseconds (almost imperceptible).
2. Consumer-Grade Equipment: More affordable or consumer-grade solutions might have higher latency, noticeable in a live setting.
Reducing Latency for IMAG:
1. Use professional-grade equipment specifically designed for live production.
2. Optimize network settings and infrastructure for network-based solutions.
3. Minimize the distance and obstructions in wireless setups.
4. Reduce on-the-fly processing or use equipment that handles processing efficiently.
Conclusion:
The delay in a video transmitter system for IMAG can range from negligible to significant, heavily influenced by the type of technology, equipment quality, and setup configuration. For IMAG, where synchronicity is crucial, aiming for the lowest possible latency is essential. Testing the setup under real conditions before the actual event is highly recommended to ensure the delay is within acceptable limits.
Wow, this is awesome, really a lot though, would really like to contact and get in touch. i got a lot to learn
Insane set up!
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WHAT IS THAT PIANO STAND!!?? I NEED ONE.
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I want to buy some second hand usb cameras. I am looking at Vaddio and I don´t know if this camera are good enough to get same quality as you have. What cameras do you have?
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What would help the most would be the actual look of these cameras during live stream compared to the HQ digital video recoreded and uploaded.
Hi KT, Here is their TH-cam channel to check out. Link: th-cam.com/users/KeysVineyardCommunityChurchBigPineKey
I would hope with all that setup the picture quality would have been way better? I've seen better looking church streams with 1/4 of all this gear.
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any chance you can share the headset you are wearing at the start of the video?
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there is so much he is the only one that could use that system. if one thing goes out the who system crash. its a complicated system for anyone else but him
Good point! Pro & Cons with a lot of different systems.
Where can I purchase the drum cage camera?
That one is available at B&H and other places. It's the PTZOptics ZCAM-VL or the ZCAM-EPTZ
how did you guys connected the propresenter computer to streaming computer?
Can you connect these two through atem mini??
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please can you list out the name of the applications
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Curious... Doesn't the Hollyland camera wireless system produce latency? I have a single Hollyland Mars 300 pro and I am getting about 0.25 seconds of latency. How are they overcoming latency in their wireless setup?
I use the Hollyland 300 Pro at my church, and I fix it in my streaming software (OBS). I delay the incoming audio so that it arrives in my stream at the same time as my video and that will remove any audio / video syncing issues. God bless.
@@jerrytsunami but you can't do that with imag
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How are you getting vMix to run on a Mac?
Hey Logan,
vMix is a live production software that is natively designed for Windows and does not have a direct version for macOS. However, Mac users can still run vMix using one of the following methods:
1. Boot Camp
Description: Boot Camp is a utility provided by Apple that allows you to install Windows on a separate partition of your Mac's hard drive. This way, you can boot your Mac into either macOS or Windows.
Process:
Install Boot Camp Assistant (included with macOS).
Use Boot Camp to partition your hard drive and install Windows.
Once Windows is installed, boot into Windows on your Mac.
Install vMix in the Windows environment.
Pros: Full performance of your Mac hardware.
Cons: Requires rebooting to switch between macOS and Windows; requires a valid Windows license.
2. Virtual Machine Software
Description: Use virtual machine software like Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion to run Windows in a virtual environment within macOS.
Process:
Install the virtual machine software on your Mac.
Install Windows within the virtual machine.
Install vMix within the Windows environment in the virtual machine.
Pros: Allows running Windows and macOS simultaneously; easy to switch between operating systems.
Cons: May not offer the same performance as a native Windows system; requires a valid Windows license.
3. Cloud-Based Streaming Solutions
Description: Use a cloud-based streaming computer that runs Windows and vMix. You remotely control this system from your Mac.
Process:
Rent a cloud-based Windows server (like AWS, Azure, or similar services).
Install and set up vMix on the cloud server.
Access and control the server remotely from your Mac.
Pros: No need to install Windows on your Mac; can access your setup from anywhere.
Cons: Requires a fast and stable internet connection; ongoing cost for cloud server rental.
Important Considerations
Performance: Running vMix on a virtual machine or via Boot Camp on a Mac may not offer the same performance as running it on a dedicated Windows machine, especially for resource-intensive production tasks.
Compatibility: Ensure that your Mac’s hardware specifications meet vMix’s system requirements.
Windows License: Running Windows, whether via Boot Camp or a virtual machine, requires a valid Windows license.
Conclusion
While running vMix natively on macOS is not an option, using Boot Camp, virtual machine software, or a cloud-based solution are viable methods to operate vMix on a Mac. Each approach has its advantages and considerations, so the best method will depend on your specific needs and resources.
maybe you can lend your cam to our church 😊
Same!
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I'm curious why you insert a klark-teknik box for your aes-50 run to the broadcast room instead of just using the aes directly from FOH x32 rack? Are you further than 300'?
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How do i get HLS link from my Youtbe live video ?
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Hello! What is your in-ear headset ?
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And for tonight, god is a DJ. This is quite crazy. Now is there any difference between the livestream of your favorite band and your church service? Probably it becomes all the same. Reminds me of Eric Clapton as the priest in Tommy, the musical film by The Who.
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You have the Hollyland wireless system. Is it the 600?
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I'm impressed how he managed to think all of this. There must be like 10 computers running audio, video and lights but you just need 3-4 people working in backstage. Ptz cameras are great for standing shots but the set needs more agility for close-ups, like they do. This is a very expensive gear for a church led by young people.
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our church would like to know the total cost of this set-up
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Makes my home setup look like it’s from the Stone Age…
It's a crazy set up!
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whats with the lag and missmatch in sync ?
What part of the video did you see this?
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My Question is,, how are you running windows on mac successfully?
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What about FOH? who runs that do they run it from a ipad in the room....
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Am i right you run vmix in mac os?
vMix is windows only, I do believe.
They certainly had alot of tech, but IMO they could reduce the amount of tech they have and still keep the same production. some of the stuff like. 3x behringer x32-racks but still bought a s32 stage box? a dedicated Ableton Live session just for vocals? I think alot of this could be consolidated with less equipment while keeping the same functionality
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Nice setup, just mind blowing that all the churches sound is so bad.... the livestream sound....
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I had a dream, but It already exist on that church. I'll be happy just with an HDMI Wireless and retire the 30 ft (10m) cable extension.
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And as of just for my professional intrest... how big damage to bank account this may be? For videosystem?
Plan on at least $75,000ish. That doesn't include the LED walls or anything on the stage. You can get away cheaper depending on what cameras you use and what switcher you end up going with.
Zac Bennett Clone not too bad as of a damage if those in charge share my visions
@@TimoSund we just priced an entire video system with 3 really nice cameras and it turned out to be around 50ish. Be sure to call a rep from the company instead of just ordering online. Sometimes they can get you deals.
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my deals beat rep deals up here ;) since I buy direct from importers
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I can see that system being a troubleshooting nightmare. Cool setup, though.
Very cool!
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