“Parts take a while to make” is one of the things I like to hear. People understand machine time more than they understand the fact that CAD takes time and effort that I don’t want to put in too often for other people’s projects. On the other side of it, it takes time, but a lot less time and money than getting a custom injection mold, cnc milled part, or hand making something to within .01 inches of design.
Something you should really take a look at is the difference in flow of different colors of filament, I know from experience that polymaker polylite black flows slower than their blue and orange. I assume it is due to the pigment used, but that is definitely a factor and something I have never seen anyone talk about.
On a Bambulab using 0.4 CHT nozzle, I print all Esun&Sunlu PLA+ using 35mm³/s without any problem, I have tried Geeetech PLA HS, and it print nearly as well except it often break into the PTFE tube as all other of their PLA, so I stopped using any Geeetech filament. To conclude most filament PLA+ comming from Esun & Sunlu support High speed up to 35mm³/s using Bambulab+CHT nozzle.
I'd love to see a high flow showdown to see which brand makes the best high flow filament and which brand makes the best bang for buck. The high speed users would appreciate it
You mean testing a HyperPLA like it is for fast print speeds? I was expecting exactly that when clicking on the video but it seems this is not the case.
You mean testing a HyperPLA like it is for fast print speeds? I was expecting exactly that when clicking on the video but it seems this is not the case.
I have used the Flashforge high speed PLA and it has never had a problem with my Elegoo Neptune Plus at 250mm3/s and I have tried regular PLA and it doesn’t like those speeds.
I have used the esun in white and it definitely flows better than standard additionally it seems that it cools better than standard also so it performs better all around at higher speeds.
This was an amazing comparison. Thank you for all your work. I look forward to more reviews. I'm currently testing out the Flashforge Adventurer 3 and Creality K1. I mainly wanted to know what temperature to put the Hyper PLA for the K1 at. Based on this information, I'll be putting it at 220*C
I am new to filament printing and have only used Hyper PLA so far as that is what Creality sent with the printer and I have not had any issues printing whatsoever. Compared to resin printing i love filament printing. I have not had any failed prints and the machine just keeps on printing. consumer 3D printing is getting pretty good.
Did you ever try a different filament? I'm the same so far and have had good results with hyper and kinda scared to try another, but also kinda expensive so wouldn't mind a cheaper filament if its the same lol
@@chris-kp6qf Yes I have now tried most filaments. Today I mostly print PETG . I most just use the standard print settings for the filament and have no issues.
@@XHolyPuffX I did the 10 min TPU benchy at 270 but I hear TPU really shouldn't be allowed to cook at that temp. 240 is probably fine for reasonable speeds or if you have a long enough melt zone (I didn't).
I tested the Esun and it would out perform most of my filaments especially prusament . I was surprised with eryone, pla that would print very fast too. Personally I think you should have tested higher than 24, then you would start to see a difference.
With my Creality CR 10 v2 printer, I get very good prints at 70 speed and it gives wonderful fine details. I also don't see any fringing or other errors. but I tried printing at 180 speed with cr10 v2 and the result was terrible. Sometimes it's all about your printer. It's a good filament for a good printer, but it's an unnecessary option for someone with a simple printer like mine.
You should be able to measure white prints using a dark room with a IR camera, so you will have a gray scaled image
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HiFlow rate in this test would mean that the speed needs to increase. And you can clearly see that even at higher layers the speed is not fast aka the flow in not high. The speed of the printer at 32g/s with a 0,4 mm nozzle should be over 150mm/s
The speed does increase on the v0.2. High flow isn’t just speed but also layer height/width. The orcaslicer does a great job of this. It did not increase on the Ankermake printer though.
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@@ModBotArmy It seemed like the Anker wasnt printing faster than maybe 70mm/s . Does it print normaly over that speed and what is the highest flowrate you have tried in the Anker. It seems odd that any printer would be software limited to print at a flowrate under 15.
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Also would be interesting trying the flowrate vase mode print with different layer heights (0.1mm to 0.3mm) with the 0.4 mm nozzle
After I tested one spool of "high-speed" PLA my thoughts were that it is just snake oil as it had the same performance as regular PLA. At least this one has a single-digit % improvement so no one can call it a scam lol. :)
Surely std pla will “hyperflow” at a higher than normal print temp anyway? I was asking someone who makes filament and he said it will flow or be more runny simply at a higher temperature. So is this just a marketing gimmick to boost the retail price? Glass gets runnier at higher temps than usually used fyi…Laurie NZ.
well it's not really garbage if it has correctly configured machine limits. for most users anyway. does that flow test increase flow or increase speed to match the wanted flow? I thought it would just increase the amount of extrusion per mm, not affecting the speed the printhead moves (that would screw over the test on many printers if it wanted to move it faster )
@@lasskinn474 The test increases, and has to increase, speed. Just extruding more material per unit distance would make the walls quickly widen and topple over, melting from too much heat density and even squishing out past the nozzle flat. Anyway, the speeds it was moving were so pitifully slow it couldn't have been exceeding 5 mm³/s, probably not even 3...
Software that Anker creates does stuff that is not documented and can not be affected by the user? I am shocked. Next you tell me that the camera uploads all its footage to a random chinese server
“Parts take a while to make” is one of the things I like to hear. People understand machine time more than they understand the fact that CAD takes time and effort that I don’t want to put in too often for other people’s projects.
On the other side of it, it takes time, but a lot less time and money than getting a custom injection mold, cnc milled part, or hand making something to within .01 inches of design.
Well said!
Something you should really take a look at is the difference in flow of different colors of filament, I know from experience that polymaker polylite black flows slower than their blue and orange. I assume it is due to the pigment used, but that is definitely a factor and something I have never seen anyone talk about.
On a Bambulab using 0.4 CHT nozzle, I print all Esun&Sunlu PLA+ using 35mm³/s without any problem, I have tried Geeetech PLA HS, and it print nearly as well except it often break into the PTFE tube as all other of their PLA, so I stopped using any Geeetech filament. To conclude most filament PLA+ comming from Esun & Sunlu support High speed up to 35mm³/s using Bambulab+CHT nozzle.
Do you mean the e3d x bambulab collab nozzle or something else?
I'm quite curious >.>
I'd love to see a high flow showdown to see which brand makes the best high flow filament and which brand makes the best bang for buck. The high speed users would appreciate it
You mean testing a HyperPLA like it is for fast print speeds? I was expecting exactly that when clicking on the video but it seems this is not the case.
You mean testing a HyperPLA like it is for fast print speeds? I was expecting exactly that when clicking on the video but it seems this is not the case.
I have tested eSun PLA + HS white. I noticed the way its cools is pretty good and it handles the higher temps better than other PLA+ filaments.
As for the question of "Are your parts long to make ?", I respond "it depends on quite a lot of parameter... 😅"
I like " that answer is multifactorial...."
Thanks for this. Always wondered if it really would make much difference. Hope we can get a full comparison at some point.
The creality hyper prints nice. I was able to print a very clean benchy on my X1c in ludicrous mode in 16min using it.
I have used the Flashforge high speed PLA and it has never had a problem with my Elegoo Neptune Plus at 250mm3/s and I have tried regular PLA and it doesn’t like those speeds.
Cool to see the Siboor V0.2 in a video. Been watching the streams recently and I'm eagerly awaiting the conclusion 😊
I have used the esun in white and it definitely flows better than standard additionally it seems that it cools better than standard also so it performs better all around at higher speeds.
This was an amazing comparison. Thank you for all your work. I look forward to more reviews. I'm currently testing out the Flashforge Adventurer 3 and Creality K1. I mainly wanted to know what temperature to put the Hyper PLA for the K1 at. Based on this information, I'll be putting it at 220*C
But the maximum temperature should be 200 degrees. I think you should pay attention.
“Quicker than waiting a long time for it to be delivered to be honest “
Interesting... I wonder what 247printing's "Secret PLA" is - is it just eSun ABS+?
I think it's eSun ABS+ with even more PLA.
Appreciate that siboor v0.2 love! Great video!
I am new to filament printing and have only used Hyper PLA so far as that is what Creality sent with the printer and I have not had any issues printing whatsoever. Compared to resin printing i love filament printing. I have not had any failed prints and the machine just keeps on printing. consumer 3D printing is getting pretty good.
Did you ever try a different filament? I'm the same so far and have had good results with hyper and kinda scared to try another, but also kinda expensive so wouldn't mind a cheaper filament if its the same lol
@@chris-kp6qf Yes I have now tried most filaments. Today I mostly print PETG . I most just use the standard print settings for the filament and have no issues.
There's high flow TPU too and it's excellent.
Who makes it??
@@Coolfwip Polymaker
Any recommendations on temps / cooling for it? I have a spool of the clear stuff that I haven't opened yet. It's overture hs-tpu
@@XHolyPuffX I did the 10 min TPU benchy at 270 but I hear TPU really shouldn't be allowed to cook at that temp. 240 is probably fine for reasonable speeds or if you have a long enough melt zone (I didn't).
@@daliasprints9798 What happens if you run it that high? And what do you mean by melt zone?
You can download specific speeds and settings from alder Sorcerers that have it set
Is that the xmas edition of Polymaker's green pla?
Hi, will the hyper speed filament work on a Ender 2 pro?
Would the difference between the filaments be higher at lower temperature, thinking about 200 degrees C?
I tested the Esun and it would out perform most of my filaments especially prusament . I was surprised with eryone, pla that would print very fast too. Personally I think you should have tested higher than 24, then you would start to see a difference.
With my Creality CR 10 v2 printer, I get very good prints at 70 speed and it gives wonderful fine details. I also don't see any fringing or other errors. but I tried printing at 180 speed with cr10 v2 and the result was terrible. Sometimes it's all about your printer. It's a good filament for a good printer, but it's an unnecessary option for someone with a simple printer like mine.
First what nozzle and hotend you used ? You also know PLA HF to be printed 15C higher right?
High flow PLA + 0.2 or 0.25mm nozzle. Did anybody tested it?
Why is that bed so small?
You should be able to measure white prints using a dark room with a IR camera, so you will have a gray scaled image
HiFlow rate in this test would mean that the speed needs to increase. And you can clearly see that even at higher layers the speed is not fast aka the flow in not high. The speed of the printer at 32g/s with a 0,4 mm nozzle should be over 150mm/s
The speed does increase on the v0.2. High flow isn’t just speed but also layer height/width. The orcaslicer does a great job of this. It did not increase on the Ankermake printer though.
@@ModBotArmy It seemed like the Anker wasnt printing faster than maybe 70mm/s .
Does it print normaly over that speed and what is the highest flowrate you have tried in the Anker. It seems odd that any printer would be software limited to print at a flowrate under 15.
Also would be interesting trying the flowrate vase mode print with different layer heights (0.1mm to 0.3mm) with the 0.4 mm nozzle
try abs vs Creality Hyper PLA it will be the same because Hyper PLA is a mixer of abs +pla
After I tested one spool of "high-speed" PLA my thoughts were that it is just snake oil as it had the same performance as regular PLA. At least this one has a single-digit % improvement so no one can call it a scam lol. :)
Just ordered some creality hyper.. we will see.
"How much does it cost?"
"Pennies for me, 20 for you"
*after the how long does it take conversation*
Why didn't you just use the X1C would have shown a more drastic result faster
Speed wouldnt have been too different. This test does increase speed but alot of it is in line size.
You need way higher temps to reach max flow - 260 degrees at max speeds
Since that Hyper Pla has a bigger temperature range, if you push the Hotend temps more it will probably flow way better than Regular Pla
It's designed to be run at 600mm/s. How about testing that? It would be helpful since that would be an obvious test to do.
That's odd. You'd expect a higher MFI for a high speed filament. 🤔
Surely std pla will “hyperflow” at a higher than normal print temp anyway? I was asking someone who makes filament and he said it will flow or be more runny simply at a higher temperature. So is this just a marketing gimmick to boost the retail price? Glass gets runnier at higher temps than usually used fyi…Laurie NZ.
I guess he's never heard of a black backdrop
The AnkerMake was obviously printing ultra slow, not at the requested speed. 🤦 Garbage printer, as expected from them.
well it's not really garbage if it has correctly configured machine limits. for most users anyway.
does that flow test increase flow or increase speed to match the wanted flow? I thought it would just increase the amount of extrusion per mm, not affecting the speed the printhead moves (that would screw over the test on many printers if it wanted to move it faster )
@@lasskinn474 The test increases, and has to increase, speed. Just extruding more material per unit distance would make the walls quickly widen and topple over, melting from too much heat density and even squishing out past the nozzle flat.
Anyway, the speeds it was moving were so pitifully slow it couldn't have been exceeding 5 mm³/s, probably not even 3...
Agree but also disagree. The printer is aware of bad input and compensates for that to achieve a good print result, which it always did.
Software that Anker creates does stuff that is not documented and can not be affected by the user? I am shocked.
Next you tell me that the camera uploads all its footage to a random chinese server
first?
looks like it
I literally print 10x faster than shown here with the ankermake m5. regular pla