Drivers paddock did an indepth test on these engines and their advice is to just do what wrx drivers have done for the last 20 years, use 5w30-10w40 and overfill it a bit, thats all toyota does for their track 86s too. Baffle wont do a thing for oiling on the FAs, the pickup is at the bottom of a smaller pan, if its somehow not picking up oil then theres sure as hell none anywhere near that baffle lol.
24 GR here don’t listen to people saying it’s no big deal. In reality it isn’t a big deal aslong you get drop the pan and get it cleaned asap. Peace of mind is well worth the labor
I’m getting a 24 gr pretty soon and people are saying the issue is overblown and I don’t plan to abuse my car but the moment I get it I should get this checked out or whenever it’s time for an oil change?
@@OAKOS dude those baffles do not help. If you’re tracking the car it’s pretty much expected to blow up. I’ve seen extensive testing on this and work for Toyota. The rtv does not cause issues. Tampering with shit for no reason usually causes issues. High g force turns can send majority of the oil into the timing cover causing an oil pressure drop. That is when damage occurrs and a baffle will not fix that issue at all. If you track your car you should have deep pockets.
Sure. While the pressure dropping is due to the high g force turns, the entire engine is sealed with way to much sealant from the factory and just cleaning the pickup and re sealing the pan is to help prevent future damage. Please go watch Misha's video.. You will see even with the Baffle, the engine failed due to RTV melting and mixing with the oil AND the high g force pressure dropping. None of it is good, and yes you should have money if you are tracking a car. Thanks for your input though.
@@OAKOS Misha's video is really questionable at best. RTV is a Red Herring. Oil Starvation is the actual problem. Are you up to date with 900 BRZ and what @Verus Engineering are doing? If not, I would really get up to speed on that before saying that hasn't been verified at all will solve the problem.
If you watched the video, or the intro of the video you would hear us talk about 900 BRZ and Verus Engineering. Maybe you missed it. And 3 days after this video released, Verus posted their update video on the oil pan. The cars are still only 2-3 years old now and we will see what the future brings for these engines.
No evidence on any baffles helping by multiple channels putting their own cars to the test on the track. The problem has to do with oil return rate to the pan when hard cornering to the right with rpms above 5500. Baffles do zero to help. As other commenters are saying, use heavier oil on track days and overfill by .5 to 1 quart. Or corner with higher gear (sub 5k rpm), or slower pace. If you don't track the car, or drive on the streets like a maniac with track tires, you'll never have issues.
Yea theres been enough research to know this is a non issue casued by lack of knowledge, these engines arent new, theres just alot more idiots driving them now that its in something cheaper than a wrx. People go out with 0w20 with a few thousand miles on it on a track and expect the car to survive a 2 hour beating, do it with an american v8 or something and see how long it lasts.
@@jimbojumbo-os1np yep alot of it just trying to push there product with fear. dont people realize that the previous generation also have RTV in them.
yes it is, I've seen a few pictures/videos about it on Instagram. Doing this on the WRX is going to be a pain though. I'm waiting for WRX specific upgrades to open mine up.
@@ruturaj47 simply having an aftermarket part or modifying your vehicle cannot void your entire warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 states that a dealership must prove that aftermarket equipment/modification caused the specific need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.
@@wigenite I know that statement is well parroted among people, thing is, would any lawyer take your case. And good luck arguing how adding baffle to engine oil pan had no effect on engine. Do you really think it's OEM's lawyers responsibility to prove it is? Or your responsibility to prove it's not?
This is just scare bait....rtv has never been the culprit of an engine failure and even if the main port gets mostly clogged there are side vents that circumvent the issue....it is right hand turns on track only running sticky tires pulling high sustained g's. I wouldnt bother dropping the pan.
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Drivers paddock did an indepth test on these engines and their advice is to just do what wrx drivers have done for the last 20 years, use 5w30-10w40 and overfill it a bit, thats all toyota does for their track 86s too. Baffle wont do a thing for oiling on the FAs, the pickup is at the bottom of a smaller pan, if its somehow not picking up oil then theres sure as hell none anywhere near that baffle lol.
a .5 to .75 overfill with oil accusump will largely eliminate the oil pressure issue. even wit R compound tires. No baffle has shown to help .
An acetone wipe on the sealing surfaces before applying rtv promotes better abdesion. Just fyi
How do you guys know that the re-applied RTV wont cause issues or be simply be re-created when the pan is torqued down and the sealant spreads out?
got the point :)
24 GR here don’t listen to people saying it’s no big deal. In reality it isn’t a big deal aslong you get drop the pan and get it cleaned asap. Peace of mind is well worth the labor
I’m getting a 24 gr pretty soon and people are saying the issue is overblown and I don’t plan to abuse my car but the moment I get it I should get this checked out or whenever it’s time for an oil change?
@@humanbirdman3905 asap if you like peace of mind
Why did you guys not use a vacuum cleaner to clean the pickup?
how did you get that yellow hammer to take off those bolts?
Over exaggerating like hell on this broski
If you think it is over exaggerating, go watch @Misha Charoudin's video about his gr86 engine failure.
@@OAKOS dude those baffles do not help. If you’re tracking the car it’s pretty much expected to blow up. I’ve seen extensive testing on this and work for Toyota. The rtv does not cause issues. Tampering with shit for no reason usually causes issues. High g force turns can send majority of the oil into the timing cover causing an oil pressure drop. That is when damage occurrs and a baffle will not fix that issue at all. If you track your car you should have deep pockets.
Sure. While the pressure dropping is due to the high g force turns, the entire engine is sealed with way to much sealant from the factory and just cleaning the pickup and re sealing the pan is to help prevent future damage. Please go watch Misha's video.. You will see even with the Baffle, the engine failed due to RTV melting and mixing with the oil AND the high g force pressure dropping. None of it is good, and yes you should have money if you are tracking a car. Thanks for your input though.
@@OAKOS Misha's video is really questionable at best.
RTV is a Red Herring. Oil Starvation is the actual problem.
Are you up to date with 900 BRZ and what @Verus Engineering are doing? If not, I would really get up to speed on that before saying that hasn't been verified at all will solve the problem.
If you watched the video, or the intro of the video you would hear us talk about 900 BRZ and Verus Engineering. Maybe you missed it. And 3 days after this video released, Verus posted their update video on the oil pan. The cars are still only 2-3 years old now and we will see what the future brings for these engines.
Anyone know a place in central Florida that can do this for me? I feel it’s a very specific niche problem and want someone to already know about it
Would a 24 cross trek with a 2.0 suffer from the sealant in the pickup tube? Wife just bought one, and now I’m tripping out. 😵💫
Wow, Nolan looks really different in this video!
No evidence on any baffles helping by multiple channels putting their own cars to the test on the track. The problem has to do with oil return rate to the pan when hard cornering to the right with rpms above 5500. Baffles do zero to help.
As other commenters are saying, use heavier oil on track days and overfill by .5 to 1 quart. Or corner with higher gear (sub 5k rpm), or slower pace.
If you don't track the car, or drive on the streets like a maniac with track tires, you'll never have issues.
alot of misinformation on this.
Yea theres been enough research to know this is a non issue casued by lack of knowledge, these engines arent new, theres just alot more idiots driving them now that its in something cheaper than a wrx. People go out with 0w20 with a few thousand miles on it on a track and expect the car to survive a 2 hour beating, do it with an american v8 or something and see how long it lasts.
@@jimbojumbo-os1np yep alot of it just trying to push there product with fear. dont people realize that the previous generation also have RTV in them.
Toyota/Subaru would this for Free!!!
How many miles were on the car when you dropped the pan?
16,xxx miles
I just won't buy an 86 or brz until Subaru sorts the rtv matter. Otherwise ima stick to my reliable ef Honda! 😂
Is the situation the same with 22+ wrx?
yes it is, I've seen a few pictures/videos about it on Instagram. Doing this on the WRX is going to be a pain though. I'm waiting for WRX specific upgrades to open mine up.
This voids the warranty though right?
only if the work done can be determined to cause the failure.
@@wigenitenot really. It wouldn't stand with dealership or court.
@@wigenite it does it under the paperwork.
@@ruturaj47 simply having an aftermarket part or modifying your vehicle cannot void your entire warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 states that a dealership must prove that aftermarket equipment/modification caused the specific need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.
@@wigenite I know that statement is well parroted among people, thing is, would any lawyer take your case. And good luck arguing how adding baffle to engine oil pan had no effect on engine. Do you really think it's OEM's lawyers responsibility to prove it is? Or your responsibility to prove it's not?
so many enkei but what i want isn’t in stock 😩 haLp
Let us know what you want. If it isn't in stock we can still get them possibly!
Let us know what you want. If it isn't in stock we can still get them possibly!
@@OAKOS i sent an email and got a reply saying discontinued 😭
This is just scare bait....rtv has never been the culprit of an engine failure and even if the main port gets mostly clogged there are side vents that circumvent the issue....it is right hand turns on track only running sticky tires pulling high sustained g's. I wouldnt bother dropping the pan.
Subaru really fucked up.