Not really, thats why engines have pickup screens. This pickup is a 5 sided box, and you only saw sealer in a small section at the base. This will not impede on oil flow.
I would also recommend to check inside the pickup tube while you have the pan down aswell so you can pull out any potential RTV before it does any damage. Great video :D
That is a good idea, matter fact that’s exactly what I did. During my video you see me show the inside of the pick up tube and I got all the RTV out of it off camera because it’s very difficult to film it all while cleaning it out.
@jl5731 drive better? No. This is not meant to make the car drive “better”, but it’s meant to prevent oil starvation during prolonged high G turns in which the oil will slosh to one side of the engine and stay there which will lead to no oil in the pick up tube and very low oil pressure which will destroy the bearings and destroy the engine. This mod is intended to prolong engine life when driving spirited, or track driving.
@@ToyotaGR86Performance would it be a net negative/more damaging to install this mod if my intentions are to only drive the car daily for work and errands and not bring it on the track?
If it is installed correctly, there is no damage being created. So it is not a net negative in that sense. If you’re someone that never takes it to the track, but when you’re getting off the freeway, and you have a Cloverleaf style of offramp, you could have sustained high G when you’re turning at a high rate of speed and your maintaining that turn. That could potentially have starvation effects and cause damage to the engine.
While it is true that a baffle will not completely eliminate oil starvation in prolonged high-G corners, a baffle will definitely help most people for spirited driving on city streets. If you are on a race track, you need either a DrySump system, or something like an AccuSump.
@@ToyotaGR86Performance the dry/accusump systems are costly and add complexity. It seems the easier approach for most will be the larger capacity oil pans coming to market imo. Oil starvation seems to be of no concern for street driving and even then, my understanding is that the starvation is caused by the lack of oil returning to the sump - not from oil escaping it (which is why a baffle doesn’t cure the issue)
It is both. With Subaru boxer engine when you are turning a lot the engine oil tends to pool on the sides of the engine and that’s why it’s not returning to the bottom. When you have the baffle, it helps keep the oil that is in the pan from splashing out too quickly, and going out to the sides of the engine.
they put an engine that could blow when you take sharp and fast turns, on a car that is specifically meant to take sharp and fast turns..... thanks toyota/subaru
Literally every single boxer engine has this problem. Want high-performance? Want a low center of gravity? You gotta compromise for it one way or another.
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Dude, you are a master at your precision. I have much respect for your ability and work. Hope to see more soon.
Thanks man. 🔧
Wow, that pick up screen was surprising.
Not really, thats why engines have pickup screens. This pickup is a 5 sided box, and you only saw sealer in a small section at the base. This will not impede on oil flow.
How much would a shop charge to do something like this? I feel like putting on the gasket sealer stresses me out. Ha
Shops normally charged by the hour. It’s about a 2 to 3 hour job so if it’s $100 an hour, roughly $200 to $300.
Damn dude! Laying down RTV while laying down!
Hahaha. Yeaaaa. It’s doable if the surface is very clean. 😅
I would also recommend to check inside the pickup tube while you have the pan down aswell so you can pull out any potential RTV before it does any damage. Great video :D
That is a good idea, matter fact that’s exactly what I did. During my video you see me show the inside of the pick up tube and I got all the RTV out of it off camera because it’s very difficult to film it all while cleaning it out.
@@ToyotaGR86Performance Do you notice the car drive better after you did the RTV out the pick up tube?
@jl5731 drive better? No. This is not meant to make the car drive “better”, but it’s meant to prevent oil starvation during prolonged high G turns in which the oil will slosh to one side of the engine and stay there which will lead to no oil in the pick up tube and very low oil pressure which will destroy the bearings and destroy the engine.
This mod is intended to prolong engine life when driving spirited, or track driving.
@@ToyotaGR86Performance would it be a net negative/more damaging to install this mod if my intentions are to only drive the car daily for work and errands and not bring it on the track?
If it is installed correctly, there is no damage being created. So it is not a net negative in that sense.
If you’re someone that never takes it to the track, but when you’re getting off the freeway, and you have a Cloverleaf style of offramp, you could have sustained high G when you’re turning at a high rate of speed and your maintaining that turn. That could potentially have starvation effects and cause damage to the engine.
I thought the oil starvation issue could not be fixed with a baffle
While it is true that a baffle will not completely eliminate oil starvation in prolonged high-G corners, a baffle will definitely help most people for spirited driving on city streets.
If you are on a race track, you need either a DrySump system, or something like an AccuSump.
@@ToyotaGR86Performance the dry/accusump systems are costly and add complexity. It seems the easier approach for most will be the larger capacity oil pans coming to market imo.
Oil starvation seems to be of no concern for street driving and even then, my understanding is that the starvation is caused by the lack of oil returning to the sump - not from oil escaping it (which is why a baffle doesn’t cure the issue)
It is both. With Subaru boxer engine when you are turning a lot the engine oil tends to pool on the sides of the engine and that’s why it’s not returning to the bottom. When you have the baffle, it helps keep the oil that is in the pan from splashing out too quickly, and going out to the sides of the engine.
wouldnt it be advised to let the rtv cure for 24hrs before adding oil and starting and running the engine?
That’s a good rule of thumb, but it depends on the RTV and application.
they put an engine that could blow when you take sharp and fast turns, on a car that is specifically meant to take sharp and fast turns.....
thanks toyota/subaru
Literally every single boxer engine has this problem.
Want high-performance? Want a low center of gravity?
You gotta compromise for it one way or another.