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ISI vs DOT, ECE, SNELL, SHARP ratings / certifications on helmets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2018
- A motorcyclist take on helmet safety standards.
This is a video merely addressing the plying consensus of every motorcyclist, it is neither a compliment or condemnation of any brand or standard. A righteous effort to be able to have the freedom of choice. A genuine request to Bangalore traffic police to reconsider their decision on persuading motorcylists to use an ISI certified helmet whereas other Certification such as DOT, ECE R22.05, SHARP and SNELL does hold equal or better safety standards. A kind request to re-evaluate the decision considering the implication of this decision on motorcyclist.
Well... You wear a NASA made anti asteroid super titanium meteor smasher helmet, the cops will still fine you for not having that ISI sticker. However, a half cut watermelon with the ISI sticker on is fine by them.
Lol bro lit
🤣
I can feel you😂😂😂
things are changing now
Yes I think Half Face Helmet should be banned. They are just there to Avoid fine and Zero Safety.
In a nation where ISI certification is more important than actual safety, let's keep our fingers crossed!!!!
For this. .. you can USE A DUAL CERTIFICATION HELMET....
LIKE both ISI & DOT
ISI is general safety mark by gov.
Dot will also need ISI in parallel if they want to sell in India.
Simple...
Salute to the helmet martyrs who were sacrificed for this lesson
the main problem is not with their breaking but with the amounth of flex! every hit the ISI helmet takes, i goes deep inside and again flexes out like a water bottle! so it's definitely going to affect the head.. whereas the dot certified helmet was very sturdy and didn't have much flex!
you should have tried them with a watermelon or something inside
Shravan Also, this video hardly shows how well a helmet will work in case of a crash. A helmet is designed to decelerate the skull of the wearer over as long a duration as possible. That means the helmet and its contents will have to be in motion. Hitting a stationary helmet with a sledgehammer only shows the strength of the shell, *not* its ability to protect the soft mushy brain of a human being.
Yeh
@@twistednemo dot helmets are designed is a way where the impact will be distributed over the helmet but wont go to you head
@@8thX yeah i got my friend back without any major injuries as because MT Truck Turgo Helmet which is DoT ECE Certified
Bro atleast wear a helmet during testing these helmets..
I am the law😎
Its not about how many hits a helmet can take. If helmet survives one critical hit, helmet's job is done and its time to change it.
I appericiate the effort you guys put in this and destroyed helmets costing so much. So basically its not abt hw many hits the helmet can take.. Its abt hw much force it transfrs to your skull in case of a crash.. Still great content 👍
devashish chauhan yes... I haven't seen any isi helmets with an outer shell and an inner shell and then the thermocol lining though... At the same time have seen many dot and ece ones having such multiple layers. Which means they will take a lot more impact before transferring that energy to the inside. Along with that the way they have a lot more padding than normal isi helmets means that the head won't go to an abrupt stop in case of a collision, which is the reason why some riders loose consciousness and sometimes go into comma in case they come to a violent stop. Helmets with multiple layers, padding and international ratings any day over isi one's as far as I'm concerned.
Yep. Content is kind of misleading.
Thank you! This is the only comment thread that to some extent sees through the pointless test in this video. A helmet is indeed designed to decelerate the skull of the wearer over as long a duration as possible. Hitting a stationary helmet with a sledgehammer only shows the strength of the shell, *not* its ability to protect the soft mushy brain of a human being.
These helmets are supposed to take single impact from accident in a short span of few seconds and not multiple impacts. So ISI helmets from reputable brands have good enough protection. DOT helmets are expensive and not everyone can afford them, but its helpful for those into motor racing or high speeds
@@ahmedajmi8173 it's not entirely anoutthe shell bro read the above comments ... It's about how much shock is diverted in simple words
Somebody send this video to the Police! Man, this shows the impact absorbability of a *safe* helmet.
Kudos, Lets Gear Up!
Love from Mumbai.
ISI < DOT < ECE < SHARP < SNELL
supercharged petrolhead
I agree on the order of how tough the tests are, but that doesn't NECESSARILY mean a helmet with a more stringent certification is safer than a helmet with lesser verification.
For example, a helmet that far exceeds ECE certification could be safer than a helmet that barely earns SNELL.
SHARPS is nice because they actually tell you the results of the test.
Isn't sharp a rating. snell and ece standards
snell and ece are just on crash worthiness and safety hence i think they are standards and sharp is more of a well rounded test which consider safety along with some comfort and fit and finish and hence a rating i guess and helmets made or sold in europe should be sharp rated and it is more of a european specific testing, i guess
Wasn't the 2005 Snell standard dangerous for street use because the liner was to be kept extra stiff to ensure the ability to absorb impact forces in multiple head collisions in a crash? Also, the video does not demonstrate the ability of a crash helmet to absorb impact. To test that, the helmet needs to be in motion. We are not talking about construction site hard hats here after all.
Ece's are better
What helmet certification would you recommend for dirt bike riding on dirt trails or desert sand?
please wear safety glasses and gloves while doing such activity 😐
No worries he's a Thor son... So everything will be fine.
Woah! 😅
The DOT approved helmet these guys just destroyed costs around 8K
Hats off to you guys!
This video will hopefully open the eyes of the cops
Also I would like to know if you guys have a red SOL SF 5 Alpha in stock (the same model you guys just destroyed)
6200 at the right place! SOL 1/2 series
raman swaminathan
Where!? :D
sunshinegears, not a promotion, I just know where to buy it from
raman swaminathan
Alright
Yeah, but this video hardly shows how well a helmet will work in case of a crash. A motorcycle crash helmet is designed to decelerate the skull of the wearer over as long a duration as possible. That means the helmet and its contents will have to be in motion. In case of a crash, the helmet shell has to distribute the force of the impact over a large area and the liner has to compress and dissipate the kinetic energy of the wearer's head. Hitting a stationary helmet with a sledgehammer only shows the strength of the shell, *not* its ability to protect the soft mushy brain of a human being.
I’m use to dot helmets but are ece any good?
What you think about Vega Cara helmet which is both ISI n dot certified
Conclusion: DONT cheap out on a isi helmet get at least a dot
Will someone's neck be capable enough to bear the jerk n force you used on branded isi helmet?
Nice video. And to all the people who are commenting below about the traffic polices new rule regarding ISI, they have withdrawn this rule yesterday that is on 29/01/2018 Monday. So u can wear the helmet of your choice.
so who won? confused....in what order? ece or snell i hear are way better than dot
wouldn't side impacts be better test than hitting it directly on top?
just seems like you're more likely to smash the side of your head if you go down than the very top
Plus the road is not in motion in a crash, the rider is. That means the helmet and head are in motion and the helmet has to decelerate the head of the wearer so as to keep the mushy brain from turning into scrambled eggs. The test in the video does very, very little to show how safe a helmet will be in a crash. This test only focuses on the shell not the liner.
do you have a link for check valid dot certification for a helmet ?
What was the 3rd helmet, DOT helmet strong as a brick
Put a water melon inside
Damn guys, great content. It'll give some good insight to all riders and pillions to always buy a ISI marked helmet(affordable). And track riders to buy DOT marked helmets. Keep up the good work
You should always change the helmet if you get in a crash once. Because it won't take another crash that well
I feel so great that I ordered a DOT certified helmet from you people. Great job Nitin and company...keep it up!!
shouldnt you also put something inside those helmets too see the compression of the EPS when a head is inside instead of just randomly smashing helmets
Could you conduct the same test on Ls2 helmet also
Informative video guyzz... Hope u will get 100k subscribers soon.
What is the name of the Sol helmet?
Loved the video!!!!!!
Hope you guys would do more videos relating to riding gears
Which is better?
Helmet with DOT/ECE & helmet with DOT/ECE/SHARP 4 STAR????
Good work brothers... All The best!!!
I liked the presentation of the video...
Suggestion - Please use a mic that absorbs the reverberations...
Cheers!!!
What is best product isi or dot please tell me anyone
What about ece, snell, sharp ?
You guys simulate a real life scenario of suddenly hitting the wall while riding. Very practical(clap clap clap). And yes ece, sharp and snell rating are also mentioned and explained in detail as written in the video title.
Subscribing now. Keep up the good work! Lot's of hard work put in this video!
great work guys!!!! opens up my eyes to what certification helmet once should go for.
Sharp rating of axor helmet???
Appreciate the effort but can someone tell me which rider falls off from his bike and lands in a vertical inverted position right on the middle of his head.. this test is for diving off of a plank into a waterless pool.
First tried by Motown India for ISI😀
First tried by you guys for DOT. 😇🤘
And we hope to be the first for other products too :)
Keep yourself locked onto our channel (Y)
Yeah, but what is the point? This video hardly shows how well a helmet will work in case of a crash. A motorcycle crash helmet is designed to decelerate the skull of the wearer over as long a duration as possible. That means the helmet and its contents will have to be in motion. In case of a crash, the helmet shell has to distribute the force of the impact over a large area and the liner has to compress and dissipate the kinetic energy of the wearer's head. Hitting a stationary helmet with a sledgehammer only shows the strength of the shell, *not* its ability to protect the soft mushy brain of a human being.
@@letsgearup6675 I have Vega brand helmet like FIA World Car Rallying Championship Semi Half Helmet and top side shows fish fin shape where the drivers like Marcus Gronholm, Mikko Hirovenin, Harri Rovanpera ,Tommi Makkinen etc
@@letsgearup6675 Thanks for the valuable video. My question is aren't ISI helmets from Reputed brands good enough for City riding which are in the speed range of 40-65kmph at most. And there have been many instances of accidents within city limits where riders have been Safe without head injury with ISI helmet.
In your test the ISI helmet did show to good protection despite 2 hits, Helmets are designed for single hits, the remaining impacts after first one are considerably of less force so using Hammer twice isn't best way to simulate results for real world .
Everyone cannot afford 4-5k ECE of DOT certified helmets. The reputed brand ISI helmets cost from 800Rs. To 2000 Rs and in my opinion is enough for City conditions. Will appreciate your response on it
@@letsgearup6675 is there any helmet on this world with all the certifications?
is dot certified helmet allowed in indian roads??
Where is snell certified one as mentioned in the titel?
A much needed video for Bangalore junta!! Keep up the good work, LGU !!
I dont see any snell certified helmets like u said ??
I like the way you guys made the video, interesting content, keep making them more, will watch it.😜
Brw.. pls tell that Sol helmet name ?
How about snell & ece certified one's????
Ece helmet applicable in india..?
Speed?
Which company is not broken
can i know which are DOT certified and Sharp certified Helmet brands?
MT mugello series are ECU, DOT and Sharp certified helmets and pocket friendly too. Rs. 4,600/-. I know Rs. 4,600/- is not a small amount. But any other brand or series with sharp, dot and ecu certification will easily cost you around Rs. 9,000/-. That's why I said it's pocket friendly.
Thank you for the effort guys! Someone please share this with BTP :)
What exactly is this test supposed to prove ?
Where is sharp and Snell?
same things happen here in Indonesia, Indonesian Police will give you tickets if they find you wear helmet without SNI (Standar Nasional Indonesia), even it DOT they dont care about that, but fortunately know Indonesian Helmet maker like KYT, INK and etc have a high standard DOT and SNI too
1 Important Point u missed guys!!
In the Real World, nobody will likely be Hit/Crash from the Top side of the Helmet, Front, sideways or Back of the Helmets will be Hit or Impacted during a Crash. So Nxt time try to test these Helmets from the Front, sides or Back side. 👍👍
Yes
I met you in store a couple weeks ago, now I saw you here hammering helmets 😂 Nice video bud.
You can put watermelon inside the helmate so that the effect on head can also be checked
someone please tag or share this video with Bangalore traffic police twitter handle 😎😎
Where's snell and ece?
This is awesome. You did justice by taking one of the best ISI helmets which have survived sledge hammer tests in other youtube videos. This is good benchmark to comapre with DOT certified helmet. Awareness is key. Hope the transport department sees this. Keep up the good work :-)
Thank you so much! We have been trying to explain this to all those who walk into our store and with this, we hope to reach the masses for better safety :)
what about other body parts.. only head will remain after the accident
The funny thing is that DOT are not actually tested. They put a sticker that looks like a helmet and supposed to meet certain standards but they do not crash samples to see if helmets handle them good. Snell and a few others do crash and check
Though not a technical video, this sure does motivate to get educated on helmets. Good job on that part.
I appreciate your effort to let us know bout the subject.
But you forget to gear up yourself for these kind of tests. Next time on its better you wear some Safety gears and do these kinda things.
PS : nice video
Bro,which certified helmet is best dot or ece
ECE~SNELL>DOT>ISI
Thanks for clearing the difference...
Absolutely unscientific, but absolutely priceless! I've just posted a video on this subject and it never occurred to me to smash some of my old helmets!
Great video mate...definitely worth sharing...!!! ITS OUR LIFE THAT MATTERS...NOT An ISI CERTIFICATION!!!
very very very useful video...... thanks guys for this awsm vdo.. appreciate ur efforts..keep going
Can I download your video and take it to my bikerz point page
where is SNELL? -_-
How about SNI?
Where's the snell?
Someone has to share this video to BTP and make it viral. Come one Bangaloreans!
Helmets must protect head hitting on something, not being hit by a hammer while resting on the floor.
There's lot of difference, because the mass exerting force on the liner is inside.
outer shell must "amplify" the contact area on wich the head must slow down his speed and the eps liner is requested to brake the head in a given space....
The isi ones
1. Steelbird adonis
2. Vega offroad d/v helmet
Put a isi sticker on your dot or snell certified helmet and thanks me latter ^_^
Shuvojit i dont think that would work cops have a list of helmet companies that doesnt have isi
deadpool 511 😒 Stick a logo on your brands logo too of vega, studds and other brands that have isi certificates! I would go the illegal way then get killed going the legal way.
Shuvojit i have an smk but removing that name and placing it as studds or vega is kinda lame but what to do rules are rules😟😟
deadpool 511 Assholes everywhere.. Mate :'(
Shuvojit true bro😟
Liked the video mainly for the last scene on thank you screen
No neww video?????
Great one to have an awareness... I saw in another video of keeping a watermelon inside the helmet while testing so that It can clearly show how much force is transferred to the skull. (But he did not demonstrate with the DOT certified one)
Sooo ppls prefer an non certified helmet than a helmet that has safety standard? Idk man i rode a motorcycle for daily commute and i ofcourse prefer the helm that have standard not a cheap bread crumb helmet. Maybe just maybe some ppl watch that dude doing mtbike then crash and saying that helmet should break when youre crashing, then saying all helmet should break. If you know the padding on bike and motorcycle helmet different. The big name brand have special compound to absorb the momentum and the shell should notbreak just watch fortnine videos if you doubt it. My teory is, why bicycle helmet is so easy to broke is so you can buy more helmet from them. But who knows 🤷♂️
The first helmet" is just in case if a kid throws a rock at you
Hey bro should I buy smk helmet worth RS 4300 ? Pls suggest me my bike name- CBR 250r
Rakesh 234 go for ls2 or mt
Good one guys and a nice request to the BTP at the end of the video.
Very good stuff 👍.. Such attempts shld be appreciated n promoted !
I see some discrepancy here, for the ISI certified helmets you put them in between a tire so they will not skid off, however for the DOT certified one you put it ona Rock and it seemed that for the DOT certified helmet it was not able to take the complete impact of the hammer because of that as it skid off after the first contact with the hammer.
Any reason why you put the DOT certified helmet on a rock instead of between the tire.
That's exactly my point as well...
Not to sound like am coming from a different school of thought but the age of the helmet also matters greatly. D.O.T. Certified helmets are tested at a speed of 15 mph at best. SHARP rated are the highest. In India we should do fine with ISI Rating as long as it's fastened properly by the rider. Hammering helmets is good but always ride safely first. Great video. I own a MT Helmets Axxis Falcon myself. Cheers!
Phantom Rides coz you don't cross 15kmph?...absurd
Ashish that's my point itself lol... Don't we all ride above 15 mph and what is the safety of any of these helmets combined with other factors included in a crash say vehicles, objects on the side of the road, terrain etc. So you can never be 100% safe. My next helmet with be Sharp 5 star rated for track days.
Actually, that is a valid point about the speed rating. The 2005 Snell standard was dangerous for street riding because the liner was too stiff as it was designed to absorb forces from *multiple* head impacts.
Also, this video hardly shows how well a helmet will work in case of a crash. A motorcycle crash helmet is designed to decelerate the skull of the wearer over as long a duration as possible. That means the helmet and its contents will have to be in motion. In case of a crash, the helmet shell has to distribute the force of the impact over a large area and the liner has to compress and dissipate the kinetic energy of the wearer's head. Hitting a stationary helmet with a sledgehammer only shows the strength of the shell, *not* its ability to protect the soft mushy brain of a human being.
Thank you brother
Thanks for tha experiment
Bro the company claims it to be safe only for one impact
Check out RyanF9. He did low cost but fairly scientific tests with helmets. He put a melon in each helmet with a shock sticker stuck to the melon. Then dropped the helmet from about 3 meters. Pretty close to how the DOT/ECE/SNELL/SHARP tests are done but without their expensive machines. There are shipping stickers (such as shockwatch?) for 25g-100g.
00:33 which helmet is this?
Its SOL helmet.
I'll promote this video. Awesome guys
i got a helmet from you people and its a SOL... M very happy that i went for it rather than a ISI.
Is studds scorpion has both isi and dot approved standards??
shiva ahuja
Studds scorpion?
Saket Chaturvedi yes
shiva ahuja
Scorpion helmets are usually at least DOT, ECE and SNELL rated 😓
Saket Chaturvedi No he's talkin about scorpion series of studds. So no bro no studds helmet come wid DOT certification. Better go with THH coz it provides DOT helmets for least price. 👍
Did you choose the helmets for testing based on the shell material? Were the tested helmets all polycarbonaye shell ones or fibre glass shell ones. You shouldn't compare based on DOT or ISI, but also based on shell material..Fibreglass shell ISI certified helmets can take as much stress as DOT certified. But if you comoare DOT certified polycarbonate shell with ISI fibreglass shell, your experiment will have different outcomes..
Venugopal Rao you used to play cricket na?
Much needed. Great job, you guys!
Thank you Varun! Do share and spread the message :)
People saying Studds, Steelbird are better brands of ISI marked helmets fail to note that to get a safety certification the helmet has to reach a preset criteria regardless who made it.
ECE aur Snell kaun check karega