Many of you have recommended the Logitech G600, I looked at it, but the specs were kinda ehhhhh. But hey I love a good recommendation, so I just ordered it. Will update my thought after some time in the comment. Thanks again! ❤️
It's a great mouse for me ergonomically and I mained it for years playing WoW, but the laser sensor compared to modern mice is so bad that I just can't deal with it, even though the rest of the mouse is so good. Also developed double clicks after 2 years on my LMB. Had to strip away the braiding on the cord since it was so heavy with it and it started fraying.
If we are talking about MMO, RTS, MOBA... The sensor is just fine, tbh any modern sensor is a gimmick for those type of games. Pretty sure if we could put different sensors in the same housing and play any of those type of games... It'd be a coin toss if anyone can guess correctly.
The EVGA mouse is a very interesting and unique one, very cool! But, I'm still rockin' the Logitech 604 and still really enjoying it. Glad you picked it up and are able to experience it!
@@yunloy tbh it’s not just fine. I notice it immediately in Windows, before even entering a game. To me personally there’s no comparison. That sensor just feels slow and laggy comparatively. Now if you’ve never had anything else to compare it to then sure, it can work and one might not notice. To me even for productivity it feels like I’m moving a slow and heavy ball compared to say the Corsair scimitar. Aside from the g600 I personally own the, scimitar, xm1 and viper and any of those sensors are a night and day difference in responsiveness.
I kind of want to know more about the build quality and how long it’ll last, or if the products have a tendency to fail in certain mechanical aspects over time. The look of the mice don’t really matter too much to me.
I have the G602 the previous model of the G604. I bought the mouse 7 Years ago and it still works well enough. it has a few battle scars by now but it still functions like on Day 1
as someone whos used the Corsair Scimitar for over a year. It's a great mouse outside of one thing if you have some heavy fingers you'll eventually end up with double clicks and non responsive clicks due to the plastic right over the switch being fairly soft. you can always open it up and "repair" it with some tape to fill in the dents that create the issue.
I also had it and it is a mouse that does not withstand the passage of time well, apart from the problem that you mention, the side buttons become hyper sensitive and are activated even if you did not want to do so.
I've had 5 Corsair mice in the last 6-7 years. They ALL BROKE. Wheel, unresponsive/double clicks, every time. On the darkstar it literally became unresponsive and disconnected itself, which many others reported too
I have the Naga Pro for my Final Fantasy 14 days, it was a great mouse for that game and I played it for over 2000 hours. It does not get use for gaming anymore since I've been using lighter mice but I still use it as a productivity mouse by programming various macros, text box etc. to the buttons. Your point on the heaviness rings true to me since it gets heavier by the hour. Great video as always!
Using the 604 right now. I got this mouse shortly after release in 2019 and still use it daily for productivity. The weight was the only issue for me and I did some mods to lighten the mouse. I replaced the solid metal scroll wheel with G502's skeleton style and use a AAA to AA adapter. Opening up the mouse can be a headache but it is def worth it. There are tutorials online to help. This mouse is over engineered internally. I hope revisions are made for a future release
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
@@1.m.r00t No double click issues. One thing that does happen eventually is that the rubber material in the thumb rest starts splitting from the plastic base of the mouse. Does not effect functionality.
my fav gaming mouse is the logitech G600 mmo gaming mouse and im onto my second one and i just randomly decided to look it up and come to find out.. they no longer make this mouse and you can only find them for sale for ridiculous prices.. in the 100s when originally i spent about $40
I have been using G604 for ARPGs and I have to agree with you the slimmer sides is more comfortable. Also a decent productivity mouse. You can even lower the weight down using the triple AAA battery mod.
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
I've used an MMO mouse since 2011, I think. The original razer naga. It lasted about 5 years if I remember, until the left click went out. Then I found the corsair scimitar. It lasted a couple of years until the mouse wheel stopped working. Replaced with the Scimitar Pro and still using it. I also got my brother a scimitar pro a couple of years ago, and his mouse wheel stopped clicking. I'm still using my latest Scimiar Pro, but it could bite the dust any day, they tend to only last around 2 years, and the left click doesn't feel very clicky like it used it. I've also noticed it seems like the mouse wants to drag when I click so sometimes if I move my mouse away too fast from what I thought I had just clicked on, it doesn't register that I clicked it, if that makes sense. So I just bought the G604 after having it on my watchlist for a year. It was on a big sale for $45 recently. Unfortuntaely, the bad things pointed out using the G502, applies to how I feel using the G604. After so many years of having a comfy ring finger rest, the G604 feels bad having my ring finger sitting on top of my pinky finger. The worst is playing Back4Blood when I need to pickup the mouse to aim, the side of my pinky bone is jamming into the pointy curvature angle on the side. I played Back4Blood for a couple of hours last night and my hand started getting fatigued on the right side with the ring finger and pinky situation. The extreme weight of the G604 definitely does not help things lol. I've had a G600 for a while as a backup mouse that I've never had to use, but I'm considering sending the G604 back if I can't get used to it, and just using the very popular and chunky G600. It also has the 3rd finger button like the EVGA mouse you like so much. As of right now, early impressions of the G604, I'm missing that 3rd finger resting area a lot. SIDE NOTE: I ordered a Razer Naga Trinity in 2019, thinking I've found the mouse I'll be in love with for years to come. It was double clicking right out of the box. And you could literally cause a left click to register without full releasing the button. I wanted to give Razer another shot after my first Scimitar bit the dust, but they failed as soon as I plugged it in haha. Certaintly not made like they used to be.
The G604 definitely looks the most practical regarding balance of button quantity and placement. Before I pull the trigger, I need to take my small girly hands to Best Buy for a test drive though. I'm a die hard Mamba Elite fan addicted to the size, rgb, and tilt scroll, so I'm going to be a hard sell to part ways with the old girl. Appreciate you sharing this info! ♥
Thanks for review ive now upgraded my AW959 4 button alienware (its sharp buttons killed my finger) and gone out and picked up a Corsair Skimitar which sounded good.
I tested the new nagas, 3 in 1 nagas and so on... I still think the Hex V2 is superior in stock. Better clicks, form that lets me drag it around and not worry, and if you mod it with custom switched and a hyper paracord, oh boi, maybe add some ceramic feet while you at it!
The Hex V2 is still my favorite mouse to this day. And yes, I agree. It was superior quality. Also, and the main issue for me as they moved to the Naga pro is the button layout. The Hex has 7 buttons and they were in a circle (somewhat like the EVGA X15 reviewed here) that design was awesome and I don't know why they replaced it with the 6 button layout. I wish the next Naga would come with a side panel with 7 buttons and in a circular pattern again.
I am currently using the Razer naga X and I’m really enjoying it. I love That They removed the side clicks on the scroll wheel which made it feel awful. The New one is perfect for scrolling and has a really satisfying click. I use 123 as shift, ctrl and alt. The others I use for convenience like map, character panel, inventory. I Also use a Couple as media keys since I use the miya pro:)
Logitech G600 has the best aspects of all these mice in one package, and probably for a lower price than most if not all of these others. The third button on the top can be used as a modifier key or as it's "G-Shift" function that adds a 2nd programmable function for all other buttons, equating to 40 custom buttons. With the G Hub software I've set up separate profiles for every game I play including macros such as an auto-run toggle for any game. I even have a profile just for desktop use outside of gaming to control volume, audio output, copy/paste, alt+tab, etc. Best mouse and most customizable hardware gadget I've ever used.
I have the same and tried to upgrade to the G604 because it was wireless. Short story the build on the G604 is not great and I have had to replace 3 of them always going back to my g600 as back up. The G604 is great for a few months and I want to love it but breaking after 6 months sucks.
I came here looking to replace the G604 which I loved when it first came out, but as a gamer I can no longer recommend it because of poor build quality. Out of the box the middle scroll wheel is very cluncky and many times does not register when you push it down. I use it for grenades in COD and after a short time a week or so it broke. I did get a free replacement but the scroll wheel on every version I have is so inconsistent I can't use it for any game. Shortly after that one of the side buttons broke completely off, again was replaced. I bought a third one while waiting for the replacement and just over a year later the same thing the side buttons break because underneath is a small plastic membrane that will stop working or break off after time. I am now on my 4th mouse in 2 years and the side buttons have almost stopped working again. I play alot of warzone and fortnite and it sucks getting familiar with a mouse only to have to keep replacing it. I'm thinking of giving the EVGA a try that you reviewed. :) On a side note I still have my original g600 that is going strong after years.
I wish I would have seen the Logitech G600 in this lineup. If you think the EVGA fits like a glove I think the G600 will surprise you. Probably the most comfortable mouse I've ever used.
Hi! :) Got a quick question: is the EVGA mouse software capable of switching profiles depending on which application is in the foreground? Like a different profile for Resolve and let's say Chrome?
Logitech g600 is still my favorite mouse. It has the ring finger button as well which is great to assign as a shift in WoW to the next row up on skills. I have 3 currently in use (home PC, work PC, work laptop) and have a spare in my closet just in case.
I've used my GPW for over 2 years playing ESO and now New World with my new Superlight. The only time I would consider getting an MMO mouse would be for like WoW or FF14 because holy abilities. I think I'd opt for the Naga though, and probably the wireless version.
Great video. I just replaced my beloved 6 year old G502 Proteus Core (all weights in) with the G604 since the weights and shapes are similar so it was an easy transition. I almost went with the EVGA x15 on sale for $30 currently but stuck with Logitech.... again. I dont understand the fuss with these low-weight mice; they feel less precise and less durable for gaming. I had a G302 (broke after 2 years), and currently use a Sensei Raw and G305 for productivity/work.
I genuinely think that if Corsair improves on their Darkstar Moba/MMO mouse design, it can land #1 in the future. It's got a wicked build/shape, an excellent premise and lots of useful features - i.e. the tilt function is useful for mounting up or activating autorun. So much potential.
I got the Razor Naga Chroma several years ago, like before high school (I'm in College now), and it lasted several long years until it finally has started to give me some issues (tracking issues, I've tried recalibrating to my mousepad but it doesn't seem to be a software problem). I honestly might send it to customer support or something to see if they can fix it and if they can't I honestly might buy a new one. It's been my most used mouse for many many years, tracking and response speed have always been good to me and the keybind customization is incredible. I mainly used the mouse to play games like Escape from Tarkov where there's a ton of keybinds and keybind combinations, and it's just an amazing mouse that I highly recommend for MMO gaming or for games with too many keybinds to count.
Awesome reviews. I have been trying to get one of the EVGA mice to try. I have really big hands and it is tough to find a mouse that fits. Keep up the awesome content.
Im fine with my Viper Ultimate in New World. A game like WoW where you have 15 different abilities to use I can definitely see the use. But New World you only have 3 abilities and 1-6 for my consumables. These MMO mice are just too heavy for me. Great vid Tech!
Hello! Greetings from Indonesia (you may know Indonesia from Bali, hehe). Anyway, I just purchased G604 Lightspeed for my Macbook Pro M1. I initially planned to get one of the Razer mice. However, Razer Synapse 3 doesn't support Macbook. I also don't familiar with Corsair or Steelseries mice. So, after looking at many reviews online for G502 Lightspeed, G604 Lightspeed, G903, MX Master 3S, and more, I decided to purchase G604. I used G502 Wired back when it came with braided cable (so, a long time ago) until it started to double click, and I purchased another one again. I have to say, G502 and G604 are for a different target audiences. G502 is for FPS, while G604 is for MMO/MOBA. G502 Lightspeed is also 45% pricier than G604 Lightspeed. I also use G604 for my work (aside from my Logitech Pebble), so the no RGB helps because it still looks appropriate in a professional environment. Thank you for the review. It was really great. My suggestion is when you compare things, please put all the mice in one frame and a comparison table to recap. If you see the comment, I wanna ask something before purchasing it. Is Logitech G240 work nicely with G604?
My sister is using Naga X for WoW and New World. I think its a great mouse. I like the weight, shape not so much. Managed to get Logitech G604 for a friend at price of 55$. Awesome mouse. I could feel the weight since I'm using Orochi V2 but the shape and placement of thumb buttons totally won me over. It would be a tough pick for me betwen Naga X and G604 but at the end I would go with G604.
I have a Razer Naga Pro. I bought it in January of 2021. I like to use the 12 side button attachment for MMO's like WoW, and I use the 2 side button attachment for New World, FPS games, and general internet browsing. After only like 6 months of use the 2 side button plate started to have a poor connection to the body. The buttons just simply will not register until I take the side off and put it back on. I think it is a great idea for a product, but VERY poorly executed. I am looking to replace it with a Model O wireless since I love my Zowie FK1, but I want a wireless mouse.
As a New World player, a Naga Trinity (and G600) owner and an MMO veteran, I found no reason to use the 12 button layout. Unlike other MMOs, New World has a limited 3 skill slots bar, and I don't see the point in having 12 buttons on my mouse for this game. Currently I am playing with the 2 button side, one button for weapon switch and one for a skill bar ability. I also configured the wheel left/right to sheathe and dodge. Feel free to comment if you disagree and share your usage of the 12/6 buttons sides. (:
I have small hands, just bought a G502 and I can’t even reach the button on the side (the one with the target on it), straining the wrist/arm. what would you recommend for small hands? From what I see you’re able to comfortably reach most of the buttons. I was actually considering the evga x15
I replaced the EVGA X15 already but it still has the scroll wheel issue where it'll scroll opposite directions randomly. This is a very good mouse with a crippling flaw.
Definitely a great review, pinpointed what all mouse users having. I have a large hand and most mouse are just too small for me and giving me that sore muscle you exactly talked about, it's almost like my little finger is going to cramp.
Just bought a Corsair Scimitar because of you man. Awesome display and demonstration of the unique and important features of the Scimitar. I cant wait for it to come in the mail lol. Thanks for the vid!
I use the Logitech G600. Has the third mouse button like the EVGA X15 has and the 12 button side piece. Just wish it had the 2 buttons next to the left click and came in wireless. Other than that best mouse I've used for MMO games.
Fun fact, if you can get a small screwdriver and some extra feet, there are literal weights inside of the mouse. Takes off about 25g and makes it so so so so so SO much better to handle! G600 is literally the best MMO mouse, change my mind.
I lost functionality of my left hand in car so additional buttons on my mouse help a lot. For my birthday I was given a Naga and with the 12 button setup I had similar gripes; no textured buttons to tell my buttons apart and nowhere to rest my thumb to grab the mouse and reset it. The heavier ones like the G502 and the X15 don't feel as heavy because of the thumbrest.
I have a Razer Naga Trinity. The left mouse button switch has gone out in under a year. After doing some digging, I'm seeing this is a common issue with Razer Naga. I'm done with Razer. I enjoyed your vid and am now a follower.
Currently using G604, after my G602 malfunctioning after 4 years. Not a massive step up, but an upgrade nonetheless. I'm the type of person that use 1 mouse for everything, G604 excel in my editing work and gaming (CS:GO and MHW). Never had any issues with the connectivity, and if the button starts to get weird, just restart the G-Hub, problems solved. But my only gripe is the rubber padding on top of the mouse, it disintegrate after a year of use. Mine maybe faulty as the padding on the thumb area seems not be fitted properly, but in the slightest of force, the padding tears apart. Apparently the padding on the pinky side also starts to crumble.
Very nice video, I use my razer orochi V2 to play new world, but, I just think that it would be a total difference if I get to play with one of those mice!. Great video!
I’ve come to realize after having a basilisk ultimate that g502 shape is not as ergonomic as it seems. The thumb rest is really not that necessary when it comes to ergonomics since its the strongest finger. Better comfort on ring and pinky finger is where it really comes out to me
8:14 This was exactly the info I was looking for in a review. I have the Razor Naga, and the buttons are too far back, hitting 10 11 12 is impossible for me. Thanks so much for the great review
I feel that resting your thumb on the side buttons works fine. Try your hardest to press a button just by moving the mouse around. It doesn't work that way. You really have to "press" it.
I'm getting the X15 on my next payday, as I don't have the budget for something like the Logitech G600 or similar, because I'm focusing on accumulating the components for my upcoming PC build, plus it's on sale right now. I'm not only building my first top of the line PC, it's also the first time I'm going with a full AMD build. Going to be running with the Ryzen 9 7950x paired with the Sapphire Tech Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX. This also isn't the first time I've had an AMD GPU from Sapphire Tech. The last one I had was an RX 470 4GB.
OMG, Techne! I still cannot believe you did a review with thoses mouses... i was looking for this for months! I just need to thank you for this. Amazing. Keep doing this great job! I have a g pro and i love it. But sometimes i just need more buttoms... Not sure in USA, but in EU, the people should avoid Naga. So easy to broken, i have no idea why. I think Logitech has a great quality and soft. Im not sure yet, but 604 seems amazing. Sorry for the bad english, but i just love your videos. Im a big fan! Hugs from Luxembourg!
I too, agree that for comfort and minimalistic but full on features, the G604 is hard to beat. However, I’m on my 3rd now as after a few months of use, the right mouse click would start registering double-clicks rendering it useless. All 3 of my G604 have done this.
Been playing FF14 with the G502 SE and it has been working out great for me. Using the scroll tilt and wheel buttons I am able to get 8 keybinds out of it. I almost always stay in claw for every game I play so my hand is very use to those shapes. Probably why I don't really get the fatigue. Could still bind the dpi button for 9. Great reviews as always and appreciate u switching it up and showing the mmo community some love
Look into the G600. You get 12 keybinds and then can use gshift to get 12 more. I pair the tilt scroll wheel with Ctrl and Shift. So the side panel has "36" different buttons and functions. It's all of your skills, and most all of your hotkeys for inventory, map, duty finder, journal, character etc. I cannot fathom playing ff14 without all my buttons now.
I've had the naga and scimitar and logtiechs g600... They all didn't last. I I bought a cheap reddragon mmo mouse.. I it's lasted me 2 years no problems lol. And it still works
My issue is with the top 2 extra buttons, their quality, flimsy or break under stress? g402 g502 and steel series 500, they all snapped, broke off. How solid are those? Any recommendation? As for the eVGA x15 that extra 3rd button is excellent on other mice I've tried. The placement of the two front thumb buttons seem to fill the sniper button role, if you're not using / reaching for the rear ones. But that's all based on what I see in your comparison.. How's that apply to real use, if anyone can comment?
Currently using my G Pro Wireless, want a mouse for New World but just not sure if I absolutely need one. I also use the Superlight for FPS games, so the shape and is still the same when I switch games.
As someone who is still using the original scimitar and have to deal with my buttons sliding all the time the Alan key feature on the elite is the best thing to come to the scimitar other than the neutral color scheme.
i love the g604 but man, i been through 3 replacements already. 2 with the right click not sticking when i rotate the camera around in guild wars 2. and the other 2 with the left click double clicking.
I think Razer Naga Pro or Trinity would be most interested to me as I can swap out the side plate for 3 different mouse button layouts. For MMO I currently using Roccat Leadr, it is an older mouse but I would love Roccat to make a refresh because I love it being wireless, has lots of buttons, and Roccat's hyper-shift software feature that basically gives you another layer of button functions when you press a button (so totally I can define up to 25 functions for the buttons)
Question about the EVGA x15: The 3rd Face Button (The Ring Finger Button) can that be reassigned as a keyboard stroke button? I use the Logitech G600 which has a similar button that I dedicate to "dodging" in games like Assassin Creed Valhalla, The Witcher 3, and other games that include it a dodge mechanic.
Late response but i just got the EVGA X15 about 2 weeks ago using it for WoW. but yes the third click (The Ring Finger Button) is fully programable you just need to download the software the unleash RGB.
i was looking for MMO mice when i just got bored and started scrolling through my subbed channels, and saw your channel, went "hey i know that guy". Idk if its luck or fate
OK so which mouse am I using... None... Xbox user my friend if I was pc I would defo go with your number 1 recommendation... Another stinkin awesome video though keep up the good work.. Have you reviewed the headset you are giving away I don't seem to see it...
Bought the Naga Trinity, after about a year or two the right and left click hardly work anymore. Before this it was my favorite gaming mouse I've ever used.
the mouse wheel of the evga died on two different mice for me. The first lasted 8 week, the second just 4 weeks. The mice is realy cool but when it comes to quality - it falls very short. btw, you can disable the most left maus button on the bottom of the mouse so there is no left left klick
@@TheTechne I legit saw like 20 videos about which keyboard I should get, and your video about the HyperX origins 60% was the one that made me go, “Dam I need that keyboard”, In fact I just got the key board 30 minutes ago
not many tech reviewers bother with mmo mice these days, so cudos to you. I have been using mmo mice many years and was always happy with my logitech g600 because it lasted way longer than my old razer naga molten. But time stops for no one and my g600 died, logi did no refresh on it and its still 60-80 euros, so i said fuck that, bought the naga x and have been a happy camper since then. its even very nice for faster shooter games but mainly my rpg mouse (also quite nice for warframe and stuff). for fps and browsing/general use i use a xm1r, mighty good mouse.
so far ive been using the logitech g pro x superlight and roccat kone air pro for new world. I was thinking of getting a mmo mouse and the razer naga just feels weird when i went to try it out at microcenter.
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Many of you have recommended the Logitech G600, I looked at it, but the specs were kinda ehhhhh. But hey I love a good recommendation, so I just ordered it. Will update my thought after some time in the comment.
Thanks again! ❤️
It's a great mouse for me ergonomically and I mained it for years playing WoW, but the laser sensor compared to modern mice is so bad that I just can't deal with it, even though the rest of the mouse is so good. Also developed double clicks after 2 years on my LMB. Had to strip away the braiding on the cord since it was so heavy with it and it started fraying.
If we are talking about MMO, RTS, MOBA... The sensor is just fine, tbh any modern sensor is a gimmick for those type of games. Pretty sure if we could put different sensors in the same housing and play any of those type of games... It'd be a coin toss if anyone can guess correctly.
The EVGA mouse is a very interesting and unique one, very cool! But, I'm still rockin' the Logitech 604 and still really enjoying it. Glad you picked it up and are able to experience it!
@@yunloy tbh it’s not just fine. I notice it immediately in Windows, before even entering a game. To me personally there’s no comparison. That sensor just feels slow and laggy comparatively. Now if you’ve never had anything else to compare it to then sure, it can work and one might not notice. To me even for productivity it feels like I’m moving a slow and heavy ball compared to say the Corsair scimitar. Aside from the g600 I personally own the, scimitar, xm1 and viper and any of those sensors are a night and day difference in responsiveness.
@@S-K-L-C I have the Razer naga Pro, Logitech MX Master, Logitech Ergo. But we can agree to disagree.
I kind of want to know more about the build quality and how long it’ll last, or if the products have a tendency to fail in certain mechanical aspects over time. The look of the mice don’t really matter too much to me.
I have the G602 the previous model of the G604. I bought the mouse 7 Years ago and it still works well enough. it has a few battle scars by now but it still functions like on Day 1
I agree. I broke mouses from Razer, Logitech and Corsair equally, in that order.
It may be almost 10 years old, but my old razer with side buttons are beginning to break.
as someone whos used the Corsair Scimitar for over a year. It's a great mouse outside of one thing if you have some heavy fingers you'll eventually end up with double clicks and non responsive clicks due to the plastic right over the switch being fairly soft. you can always open it up and "repair" it with some tape to fill in the dents that create the issue.
I also had it and it is a mouse that does not withstand the passage of time well, apart from the problem that you mention, the side buttons become hyper sensitive and are activated even if you did not want to do so.
I broke a Cosair Scimitar and a PRO version. Two years at best each with daily activities.
I've had 5 Corsair mice in the last 6-7 years. They ALL BROKE. Wheel, unresponsive/double clicks, every time. On the darkstar it literally became unresponsive and disconnected itself, which many others reported too
which ones have a physical modifier button for your pinky like the G600?
I have the Naga Pro for my Final Fantasy 14 days, it was a great mouse for that game and I played it for over 2000 hours. It does not get use for gaming anymore since I've been using lighter mice but I still use it as a productivity mouse by programming various macros, text box etc. to the buttons. Your point on the heaviness rings true to me since it gets heavier by the hour. Great video as always!
Using the 604 right now. I got this mouse shortly after release in 2019 and still use it daily for productivity. The weight was the only issue for me and I did some mods to lighten the mouse. I replaced the solid metal scroll wheel with G502's skeleton style and use a AAA to AA adapter. Opening up the mouse can be a headache but it is def worth it. There are tutorials online to help. This mouse is over engineered internally. I hope revisions are made for a future release
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
@@1.m.r00t No double click issues. One thing that does happen eventually is that the rubber material in the thumb rest starts splitting from the plastic base of the mouse. Does not effect functionality.
@@stephenkikzass and for how long are you using this mouse?
@@1.m.r00t I use the mouse for everything but gaming. 40-60 hours a week for 3 years
@@stephenkikzass oh, and it still works well after 3 years, that's really great, thanks for telling
my fav gaming mouse is the logitech G600 mmo gaming mouse and im onto my second one and i just randomly decided to look it up and come to find out.. they no longer make this mouse and you can only find them for sale for ridiculous prices.. in the 100s when originally i spent about $40
I have been using G604 for ARPGs and I have to agree with you the slimmer sides is more comfortable. Also a decent productivity mouse. You can even lower the weight down using the triple AAA battery mod.
Hey, can you tell if the 604 has any double click issues, and is the wheel working well, cause I've seen many people telling about the double click in it
I've used an MMO mouse since 2011, I think. The original razer naga. It lasted about 5 years if I remember, until the left click went out. Then I found the corsair scimitar. It lasted a couple of years until the mouse wheel stopped working. Replaced with the Scimitar Pro and still using it. I also got my brother a scimitar pro a couple of years ago, and his mouse wheel stopped clicking. I'm still using my latest Scimiar Pro, but it could bite the dust any day, they tend to only last around 2 years, and the left click doesn't feel very clicky like it used it. I've also noticed it seems like the mouse wants to drag when I click so sometimes if I move my mouse away too fast from what I thought I had just clicked on, it doesn't register that I clicked it, if that makes sense.
So I just bought the G604 after having it on my watchlist for a year. It was on a big sale for $45 recently. Unfortuntaely, the bad things pointed out using the G502, applies to how I feel using the G604. After so many years of having a comfy ring finger rest, the G604 feels bad having my ring finger sitting on top of my pinky finger. The worst is playing Back4Blood when I need to pickup the mouse to aim, the side of my pinky bone is jamming into the pointy curvature angle on the side. I played Back4Blood for a couple of hours last night and my hand started getting fatigued on the right side with the ring finger and pinky situation. The extreme weight of the G604 definitely does not help things lol.
I've had a G600 for a while as a backup mouse that I've never had to use, but I'm considering sending the G604 back if I can't get used to it, and just using the very popular and chunky G600. It also has the 3rd finger button like the EVGA mouse you like so much. As of right now, early impressions of the G604, I'm missing that 3rd finger resting area a lot.
SIDE NOTE: I ordered a Razer Naga Trinity in 2019, thinking I've found the mouse I'll be in love with for years to come. It was double clicking right out of the box. And you could literally cause a left click to register without full releasing the button. I wanted to give Razer another shot after my first Scimitar bit the dust, but they failed as soon as I plugged it in haha. Certaintly not made like they used to be.
I got more out of your reviews on these mice then any other video I have watched. Great job TT.
The G604 definitely looks the most practical regarding balance of button quantity and placement. Before I pull the trigger, I need to take my small girly hands to Best Buy for a test drive though. I'm a die hard Mamba Elite fan addicted to the size, rgb, and tilt scroll, so I'm going to be a hard sell to part ways with the old girl. Appreciate you sharing this info! ♥
but only 6 buttons!!! why can't they release a 12 button version???
g600 is masterful the fact logitech ended support for it is sad af, I hope one day they release a refreshed wireless variant of the mouse.
Stinkin' great review! Thinking about the EVGA one for me. Amazing stuff!
Thanks for review ive now upgraded my AW959 4 button alienware (its sharp buttons killed my finger) and gone out and picked up a Corsair Skimitar which sounded good.
I tested the new nagas, 3 in 1 nagas and so on... I still think the Hex V2 is superior in stock. Better clicks, form that lets me drag it around and not worry, and if you mod it with custom switched and a hyper paracord, oh boi, maybe add some ceramic feet while you at it!
The Hex V2 is still my favorite mouse to this day. And yes, I agree. It was superior quality. Also, and the main issue for me as they moved to the Naga pro is the button layout. The Hex has 7 buttons and they were in a circle (somewhat like the EVGA X15 reviewed here) that design was awesome and I don't know why they replaced it with the 6 button layout. I wish the next Naga would come with a side panel with 7 buttons and in a circular pattern again.
@@kamerinpoche921 naga trinity has the 7 button layout
I am currently using the Razer naga X and I’m really enjoying it. I love That They removed the side clicks on the scroll wheel which made it feel awful. The New one is perfect for scrolling and has a really satisfying click. I use 123 as shift, ctrl and alt. The others I use for convenience like map, character panel, inventory. I Also use a Couple as media keys since I use the miya pro:)
Oh yeah the scroll wheel was absolute garbage on the trinity. This made me cop the X
How’d the G600 work out? How does the SteelSeries Aerox 9 compare to these? Thanks!
very informative. thank you.
Great video. Would love to see follow up if there is anything new in the market
Did you check the redragon ones? I'm using the redragon impact for some days and its nice as well. its big so your shovels will fit in perfect.
Logitech G600 has the best aspects of all these mice in one package, and probably for a lower price than most if not all of these others. The third button on the top can be used as a modifier key or as it's "G-Shift" function that adds a 2nd programmable function for all other buttons, equating to 40 custom buttons. With the G Hub software I've set up separate profiles for every game I play including macros such as an auto-run toggle for any game. I even have a profile just for desktop use outside of gaming to control volume, audio output, copy/paste, alt+tab, etc.
Best mouse and most customizable hardware gadget I've ever used.
I have the same and tried to upgrade to the G604 because it was wireless. Short story the build on the G604 is not great and I have had to replace 3 of them always going back to my g600 as back up. The G604 is great for a few months and I want to love it but breaking after 6 months sucks.
But is it very durable?
@@nova_zar g600 is durable the G604 is not.
@@nova_zar had mine since 2019 and its only now starting to show wear on clicks.
For a $40 mouse I can't complain
I came here looking to replace the G604 which I loved when it first came out, but as a gamer I can no longer recommend it because of poor build quality. Out of the box the middle scroll wheel is very cluncky and many times does not register when you push it down. I use it for grenades in COD and after a short time a week or so it broke. I did get a free replacement but the scroll wheel on every version I have is so inconsistent I can't use it for any game. Shortly after that one of the side buttons broke completely off, again was replaced. I bought a third one while waiting for the replacement and just over a year later the same thing the side buttons break because underneath is a small plastic membrane that will stop working or break off after time. I am now on my 4th mouse in 2 years and the side buttons have almost stopped working again. I play alot of warzone and fortnite and it sucks getting familiar with a mouse only to have to keep replacing it. I'm thinking of giving the EVGA a try that you reviewed. :) On a side note I still have my original g600 that is going strong after years.
I wish I would have seen the Logitech G600 in this lineup. If you think the EVGA fits like a glove I think the G600 will surprise you. Probably the most comfortable mouse I've ever used.
such a disappointment and it's only $30 on Amazon!
I guess it's not on their current lineup. All old stock
@@_archer7101 it's a lot more expensive now that its discontinued
Hi! :) Got a quick question: is the EVGA mouse software capable of switching profiles depending on which application is in the foreground? Like a different profile for Resolve and let's say Chrome?
Logitech g600 is still my favorite mouse. It has the ring finger button as well which is great to assign as a shift in WoW to the next row up on skills.
I have 3 currently in use (home PC, work PC, work laptop) and have a spare in my closet just in case.
It too would be my favorite if it had additional top buttons.
Did not know about the adjustable feature on my Corsair, gotta find it so I can enjoy all of it.
I've used my GPW for over 2 years playing ESO and now New World with my new Superlight. The only time I would consider getting an MMO mouse would be for like WoW or FF14 because holy abilities. I think I'd opt for the Naga though, and probably the wireless version.
Great video. I just replaced my beloved 6 year old G502 Proteus Core (all weights in) with the G604 since the weights and shapes are similar so it was an easy transition. I almost went with the EVGA x15 on sale for $30 currently but stuck with Logitech.... again. I dont understand the fuss with these low-weight mice; they feel less precise and less durable for gaming. I had a G302 (broke after 2 years), and currently use a Sensei Raw and G305 for productivity/work.
I genuinely think that if Corsair improves on their Darkstar Moba/MMO mouse design, it can land #1 in the future. It's got a wicked build/shape, an excellent premise and lots of useful features - i.e. the tilt function is useful for mounting up or activating autorun. So much potential.
Nice vid! But what do you think about SteelSeries Aerox 9 Wireless ?
I got the Razor Naga Chroma several years ago, like before high school (I'm in College now), and it lasted several long years until it finally has started to give me some issues (tracking issues, I've tried recalibrating to my mousepad but it doesn't seem to be a software problem). I honestly might send it to customer support or something to see if they can fix it and if they can't I honestly might buy a new one. It's been my most used mouse for many many years, tracking and response speed have always been good to me and the keybind customization is incredible. I mainly used the mouse to play games like Escape from Tarkov where there's a ton of keybinds and keybind combinations, and it's just an amazing mouse that I highly recommend for MMO gaming or for games with too many keybinds to count.
Awesome reviews. I have been trying to get one of the EVGA mice to try. I have really big hands and it is tough to find a mouse that fits. Keep up the awesome content.
Loving my 502, but what I wouldn't give for a D-Pad like rocker to rest your thumb on, then tilt up/down/left/right for buttons
Thanks for the video. Getting the EVGA X15.
You got it? is it good?
@@l_Nightbot_l It's a good mouse but the EVGA software is total garbage.
@@jbond.007 Yeah it looks kinda cheap/meh. Gonna check more about it. Thanks for your time!
Im fine with my Viper Ultimate in New World. A game like WoW where you have 15 different abilities to use I can definitely see the use. But New World you only have 3 abilities and 1-6 for my consumables. These MMO mice are just too heavy for me. Great vid Tech!
Hello! Greetings from Indonesia (you may know Indonesia from Bali, hehe). Anyway, I just purchased G604 Lightspeed for my Macbook Pro M1. I initially planned to get one of the Razer mice. However, Razer Synapse 3 doesn't support Macbook. I also don't familiar with Corsair or Steelseries mice. So, after looking at many reviews online for G502 Lightspeed, G604 Lightspeed, G903, MX Master 3S, and more, I decided to purchase G604.
I used G502 Wired back when it came with braided cable (so, a long time ago) until it started to double click, and I purchased another one again.
I have to say, G502 and G604 are for a different target audiences. G502 is for FPS, while G604 is for MMO/MOBA. G502 Lightspeed is also 45% pricier than G604 Lightspeed. I also use G604 for my work (aside from my Logitech Pebble), so the no RGB helps because it still looks appropriate in a professional environment.
Thank you for the review. It was really great. My suggestion is when you compare things, please put all the mice in one frame and a comparison table to recap.
If you see the comment, I wanna ask something before purchasing it. Is Logitech G240 work nicely with G604?
hey this was exactly the video I was looking for a few weeks back! glad that we got a sponsor for this video aswell👍
My sister is using Naga X for WoW and New World. I think its a great mouse. I like the weight, shape not so much. Managed to get Logitech G604 for a friend at price of 55$. Awesome mouse. I could feel the weight since I'm using Orochi V2 but the shape and placement of thumb buttons totally won me over. It would be a tough pick for me betwen Naga X and G604 but at the end I would go with G604.
I have a Razer Naga Pro. I bought it in January of 2021. I like to use the 12 side button attachment for MMO's like WoW, and I use the 2 side button attachment for New World, FPS games, and general internet browsing. After only like 6 months of use the 2 side button plate started to have a poor connection to the body. The buttons just simply will not register until I take the side off and put it back on. I think it is a great idea for a product, but VERY poorly executed. I am looking to replace it with a Model O wireless since I love my Zowie FK1, but I want a wireless mouse.
Hi do you reccomend the eksa's
As a New World player, a Naga Trinity (and G600) owner and an MMO veteran, I found no reason to use the 12 button layout.
Unlike other MMOs, New World has a limited 3 skill slots bar, and I don't see the point in having 12 buttons on my mouse for this game.
Currently I am playing with the 2 button side, one button for weapon switch and one for a skill bar ability. I also configured the wheel left/right to sheathe and dodge.
Feel free to comment if you disagree and share your usage of the 12/6 buttons sides. (:
I have been thinking about trying a classic 2 button, but man I have gotten so use to this set up , lol
I have small hands, just bought a G502 and I can’t even reach the button on the side (the one with the target on it), straining the wrist/arm. what would you recommend for small hands? From what I see you’re able to comfortably reach most of the buttons. I was actually considering the evga x15
I replaced the EVGA X15 already but it still has the scroll wheel issue where it'll scroll opposite directions randomly. This is a very good mouse with a crippling flaw.
Definitely a great review, pinpointed what all mouse users having. I have a large hand and most mouse are just too small for me and giving me that sore muscle you exactly talked about, it's almost like my little finger is going to cramp.
I have had a 2 different razer naga's and after 6 months both have a double clicking issue
Just bought a Corsair Scimitar because of you man. Awesome display and demonstration of the unique and important features of the Scimitar. I cant wait for it to come in the mail lol. Thanks for the vid!
awesome, so glad to be able to help. are you playing new world?
Is like you read my mind and give me the answers every time! Great video!
I have a Razer naga Trinity and I love that mouse. By far my favorite out of any MMO mouse
I use the Logitech G600. Has the third mouse button like the EVGA X15 has and the 12 button side piece. Just wish it had the 2 buttons next to the left click and came in wireless. Other than that best mouse I've used for MMO games.
Fun fact, if you can get a small screwdriver and some extra feet, there are literal weights inside of the mouse. Takes off about 25g and makes it so so so so so SO much better to handle!
G600 is literally the best MMO mouse, change my mind.
I need a third button modifier for my next MMO mouse. I've used the G600 before. What makes the EVGA better than the G600?
I lost functionality of my left hand in car so additional buttons on my mouse help a lot. For my birthday I was given a Naga and with the 12 button setup I had similar gripes; no textured buttons to tell my buttons apart and nowhere to rest my thumb to grab the mouse and reset it. The heavier ones like the G502 and the X15 don't feel as heavy because of the thumbrest.
would you reccomend any for fps to, i like a mouse with more then 2 side buttons but competitive for fps to
Can you do a review of two new naga wireless mouse? Thank you
Thank you for the recomendations! Im using the Mx Master 3 for new world, you just can't beat the comfort
cant wait for the new glorious mouse review! good work as always
Awesome vid man, i would love to try the Logitech wireless
I have a Razer Naga Trinity. The left mouse button switch has gone out in under a year. After doing some digging, I'm seeing this is a common issue with Razer Naga. I'm done with Razer.
I enjoyed your vid and am now a follower.
As always great video I’m using nags pro both the evga and Logitech look like something that might work out better since I have gigantic hands.
Would you recommend the 604 for FPS?
Currently using G604, after my G602 malfunctioning after 4 years. Not a massive step up, but an upgrade nonetheless. I'm the type of person that use 1 mouse for everything, G604 excel in my editing work and gaming (CS:GO and MHW). Never had any issues with the connectivity, and if the button starts to get weird, just restart the G-Hub, problems solved.
But my only gripe is the rubber padding on top of the mouse, it disintegrate after a year of use. Mine maybe faulty as the padding on the thumb area seems not be fitted properly, but in the slightest of force, the padding tears apart. Apparently the padding on the pinky side also starts to crumble.
Very nice video, I use my razer orochi V2 to play new world, but, I just think that it would be a total difference if I get to play with one of those mice!. Great video!
thank you
I’ve come to realize after having a basilisk ultimate that g502 shape is not as ergonomic as it seems. The thumb rest is really not that necessary when it comes to ergonomics since its the strongest finger. Better comfort on ring and pinky finger is where it really comes out to me
8:14 This was exactly the info I was looking for in a review. I have the Razor Naga, and the buttons are too far back, hitting 10 11 12 is impossible for me.
Thanks so much for the great review
Great video once again! I'm a huge mmo fan and in need of a new mouse. This really helps me out.
Get the g600
I feel that resting your thumb on the side buttons works fine. Try your hardest to press a button just by moving the mouse around. It doesn't work that way.
You really have to "press" it.
I'm getting the X15 on my next payday, as I don't have the budget for something like the Logitech G600 or similar, because I'm focusing on accumulating the components for my upcoming PC build, plus it's on sale right now. I'm not only building my first top of the line PC, it's also the first time I'm going with a full AMD build. Going to be running with the Ryzen 9 7950x paired with the Sapphire Tech Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX. This also isn't the first time I've had an AMD GPU from Sapphire Tech. The last one I had was an RX 470 4GB.
OMG, Techne! I still cannot believe you did a review with thoses mouses... i was looking for this for months! I just need to thank you for this. Amazing. Keep doing this great job! I have a g pro and i love it. But sometimes i just need more buttoms... Not sure in USA, but in EU, the people should avoid Naga. So easy to broken, i have no idea why. I think Logitech has a great quality and soft. Im not sure yet, but 604 seems amazing. Sorry for the bad english, but i just love your videos. Im a big fan! Hugs from Luxembourg!
I too, agree that for comfort and minimalistic but full on features, the G604 is hard to beat.
However, I’m on my 3rd now as after a few months of use, the right mouse click would start registering double-clicks rendering it useless. All 3 of my G604 have done this.
I’m looking for a SteelSeries rival 500, which in my opinion is the best mmo mouse.
Aesthetics for me, the Scimitar, functionality + Comfort without a doubt the EVGA X15
Been playing FF14 with the G502 SE and it has been working out great for me. Using the scroll tilt and wheel buttons I am able to get 8 keybinds out of it. I almost always stay in claw for every game I play so my hand is very use to those shapes. Probably why I don't really get the fatigue. Could still bind the dpi button for 9. Great reviews as always and appreciate u switching it up and showing the mmo community some love
Look into the G600. You get 12 keybinds and then can use gshift to get 12 more. I pair the tilt scroll wheel with Ctrl and Shift. So the side panel has "36" different buttons and functions.
It's all of your skills, and most all of your hotkeys for inventory, map, duty finder, journal, character etc.
I cannot fathom playing ff14 without all my buttons now.
I've had the naga and scimitar and logtiechs g600... They all didn't last. I I bought a cheap reddragon mmo mouse.. I it's lasted me 2 years no problems lol. And it still works
My issue is with the top 2 extra buttons, their quality, flimsy or break under stress? g402 g502 and steel series 500, they all snapped, broke off. How solid are those? Any recommendation? As for the eVGA x15 that extra 3rd button is excellent on other mice I've tried. The placement of the two front thumb buttons seem to fill the sniper button role, if you're not using / reaching for the rear ones. But that's all based on what I see in your comparison.. How's that apply to real use, if anyone can comment?
Currently using my G Pro Wireless, want a mouse for New World but just not sure if I absolutely need one. I also use the Superlight for FPS games, so the shape and is still the same when I switch games.
As someone who is still using the original scimitar and have to deal with my buttons sliding all the time the Alan key feature on the elite is the best thing to come to the scimitar other than the neutral color scheme.
I have a Corsair Scimitar PRO RGB, and Logitech G600. I love the Scimitar. I don't even play MMO games.
Another great video!
thank you
i love the g604 but man, i been through 3 replacements already. 2 with the right click not sticking when i rotate the camera around in guild wars 2. and the other 2 with the left click double clicking.
I think Razer Naga Pro or Trinity would be most interested to me as I can swap out the side plate for 3 different mouse button layouts. For MMO I currently using Roccat Leadr, it is an older mouse but I would love Roccat to make a refresh because I love it being wireless, has lots of buttons, and Roccat's hyper-shift software feature that basically gives you another layer of button functions when you press a button (so totally I can define up to 25 functions for the buttons)
I don't use any of these, the 604 looks pretty nice though, sweet video bro, Peace.
Can u do a setup tour? That whould be Great. Btw Great content
funny you ask, I have one coming this weekend ;)
@@TheTechne WHAT??!! what a coinsidence
new world, has like 3 buttons, what mmo mouse would you use??
Question about the EVGA x15: The 3rd Face Button (The Ring Finger Button) can that be reassigned as a keyboard stroke button? I use the Logitech G600 which has a similar button that I dedicate to "dodging" in games like Assassin Creed Valhalla, The Witcher 3, and other games that include it a dodge mechanic.
Late response but i just got the EVGA X15 about 2 weeks ago using it for WoW. but yes the third click (The Ring Finger Button) is fully programable you just need to download the software the unleash RGB.
@@redchord1729 Thank you!
i was looking for MMO mice when i just got bored and started scrolling through my subbed channels, and saw your channel, went "hey i know that guy". Idk if its luck or fate
You should check out the Roccat Leadr Wireless. That's been my go-to for a while now. QC isn't that great but the button layout is great.
OK so which mouse am I using... None... Xbox user my friend if I was pc I would defo go with your number 1 recommendation... Another stinkin awesome video though keep up the good work.. Have you reviewed the headset you are giving away I don't seem to see it...
Bought the Naga Trinity, after about a year or two the right and left click hardly work anymore. Before this it was my favorite gaming mouse I've ever used.
Don’t play mmos but always happy to watch another techne vid :)
the mouse wheel of the evga died on two different mice for me. The first lasted 8 week, the second just 4 weeks. The mice is realy cool but when it comes to quality - it falls very short.
btw, you can disable the most left maus button on the bottom of the mouse so there is no left left klick
hey i have a question, i’m looking for a headset that is comfy, wireless and sounds good. what is ur recommendations? budget is about 200
or do i get arctis pro no gamedac?
Using Logitech pro x superlight for jumping and autosprint, and then Azeron for everything else
I use both Corsair Schimtar and the Logitech 502 for fps games :D
Techne would like to know your thoughts on New World if possible
love your content bro
thank you so much
@@TheTechne I legit saw like 20 videos about which keyboard I should get, and your video about the HyperX origins 60% was the one that made me go, “Dam I need that keyboard”, In fact I just got the key board 30 minutes ago
Techne I had the same problem with my plates not registering on certain buttons and it eventually got so bad I replaced the mouse.
My hands big enough to rest my thumb above the buttons on the naga haha, guess I never realized they were kinda in the way!
have you tried the pulsefire raid :) it doesn't have as many buttons but its also under 100g
yeah it's a bit skinny for me
buying the EVGA X15... its the best option for me
not many tech reviewers bother with mmo mice these days, so cudos to you. I have been using mmo mice many years and was always happy with my logitech g600 because it lasted way longer than my old razer naga molten.
But time stops for no one and my g600 died, logi did no refresh on it and its still 60-80 euros, so i said fuck that, bought the naga x and have been a happy camper since then. its even very nice for faster shooter games but mainly my rpg mouse (also quite nice for warframe and stuff). for fps and browsing/general use i use a xm1r, mighty good mouse.
small update, my xm1r still works fine 2x razer naga x both are broken. fuck razer.
G604 for me, got for $40 on Amazon last year.
Must have: Scroll tilt! Wireless!
so far ive been using the logitech g pro x superlight and roccat kone air pro for new world. I was thinking of getting a mmo mouse and the razer naga just feels weird when i went to try it out at microcenter.
try the logi