Probably the best instruction video and system I’ve ever seen for control of distance with wedges, an issue that keeps me stuck on a Handicap of 6. Thanks a lot for sharing
Excellent advice. I will definitely try this system out. I need something like this to create a system that I can depend on to hit the different distances with my wedges. This makes a lot of sense. Thank you 🙏🏽
Never came across the chest to chest, shoulder to shoulder idea as being ballpark 20 and 10 yards off - awesome stuff and I will work that into my final system for sure. I am currently practicing a waist to waist (w2w) system with 3 wedges (60/55/50 idea) where 40 yards = w2w with the 60 wedge, 60 yards =w2w with the 55 wedge, 80yards = w2w with the 50 wedge. Your chest and shoulder ideas will work perfectly after that and I will also practice your 56 degree wedge system to give me two types of flights. Thanks Eric.
@@CogornoGolf As a follow up and after spending 2 hours today on the range practicing this method with my 56/57 degree wedge - it is fantastic. I also love the goto approximation of 20 yards & 10 yards less for shoulder to shoulder and ear to ear - it was great to give me goto approximate distances using my 50 degree gap and 46 degree PW which I know their carry's (122 & 137). Awesome stuff Eric!
Really like the idea of hitting less than full swings with the wedges to promote smoother tempo and transition between distances. Yardage control is something I'm working on this season and this will help a lot.
Hi Eric, I've come over from the Chris Ryan channel after watching the wrist video that you and he did, I'm very much looking forward to watching your content. Cheers Olly C.
@@CogornoGolf he is that, one of the best UK based TH-cam coaches, always very clear and informative vids... Seemingly yours are too, good work Eric 👌🏼
Loving the swing system for carry distances. A question regarding taking spin off and lowering trajectory for back pins into wind or running up the hill using less loft and viCe versa?
Thanks. Back pin and into wind, error on 15 ft short. You can take more club and lower speed or keep same club and take longer swing length than normal. I would for sure lower traj either way
Thanks Eric, point taken. Like you i used to use a 56 for most distances inside my full 56 distance, and could lower and raise traj, but found lowering spin by taking more club and swinging easier for back pins , or getting the ball running more up hills got me closer than say 56 with tons of spin (unless I needed that for a particular pin/green speed)
Hi Eric, Any reason why you started with the sand wedge? Is that your most lofted wedge or did you not use your lob wedge for a reason? Sorry if i missed the explanation of this in the video.
I don't use a 60* for wedge distances. I like to use 56* and coach my player to do so. Most players I see use a 60* can't flight the ball well enough nor control distance enough with it...ball goes too high. If you can do with 60* you can use that....most perform better with 56* or 54*
Hi Eric When hitting your wedges and short irons to get close to the hole ,are you still using flexion and supination of the wrist for this swing? thank you
Its still happening...yes....but "less" on wedge shots....more as the shots get longer, less as they are shorter. Short wedge shots for sure less flex and supinate bc we want to use the bounce....and those movements take the bounce away.
Hi Eric. For the longer shots (i.e. chest / chest upwards) with PW and 9i, are you still working on the premise of toe up and club face neutral/slightly open at address as per some of your other videos on wedge/short irons?
Hey Tim! Great question! No, I would prefer club face more tilted down same as back angle in backswing as the clubs get longer. I would say that rule starts to apply from say 50 yards and beyond
My point on confusion comes from whether you hit eg a shoulder to shoulder shot with more of a pitch swing or is it simply a shortened full swing? In terms of hip rotation, upper body/arms dominance on the backswing (and downswing). Btw is there anywhere I could donate to you? As I have been binge watching all your videos and would like to contribute past ad revenue however am not interested in the membership at this point in time.
Hey! "My point on confusion comes from whether you hit eg a shoulder to shoulder shot with more of a pitch swing or is it simply a shortened full swing? In terms of hip rotation, upper body/arms dominance on the backswing (and downswing)." -Shortened full swing! "Btw is there anywhere I could donate to you? As I have been binge watching all your videos and would like to contribute past ad revenue however am not interested in the membership at this point in time." -Thanks for the offer and support! We do not. We would love to have you as a member when you are ready All the best
Perfectly timed video for me. Off to the range to work on this. Thanks Eric! What is the need for the cross over distances? I.e. 120 yards pw chest/chest vs 120 yards gap ear/ear. Are we considering wind conditions? I assume the best choice is the 120 PW chest chest knock down type shot?
Eric thanks for answering my question so quick...I appreciate that..however I am experimenting with the Hogan method as I feel cramped in my swing if I set up square to the target line on my short irons...when I use the hogan method on my short irons should I open my hips up as well as my feet? Thanks
Hey Kenneth! I would have to see your swing and know more to say...can't give you a black/white answer here as its not the same answer for everyone....so I can't possibly know without seeing your swing!
Really depends, Kenneth! No one correct answer here. I have great players who do the hogan method. I have some slightly open I have some square I have some closed I would need to see your swing and now more to say!
Hi Eric, with my full swing I’ve had to take your previous advice and feel like I’m doing a half swing so I don’t overswing (club past parallel). Am I right in thinking that this wedge system will still work as the tempo is more a 2:1 tempo ration rather than a 3:1 tempo with a faster swing. Hope that makes sense.. cheers Lee
Sorry to ask but are you involved in Performance Golf Zone? Have had an email about your 15 shots to no slice system but you don't mention it in your list below the video.
Yes-we work with PGZ to create and sell training programs! Our community is at Cogornogolf.com but we are fortunate to work with PGZ to help a lot of golfers who we aren't able to access here.
@@CogornoGolf Well I'm drawing Eric! A new experience - and a damned quick turn around. Thank you for the program. Now if only I could start the ball further to the right lol. Major progress in two days though
This is a good way to practice but hitting wedges and short irons close to the hole on a fairway with uneven or tight lies, elevated greens, etc. requires more calculation. How do you work this out?
Haha of course man... If you don't have a good shot from 80 from neutral conditions what are the odds you do in other conditions? You have to get basics right first. Same with full swing mechanics, chipping, etc. Then you must do calculations....yes...thats a whole other video my friend.
You can certainly use full swings! This system really helps with distance control and it allows you to take a shorter, more controlled swing which is great ALL the time...but especially great when you're having an off day and/or if it's really windy out (the shorter swings help keep the trajectory down). Hope this one helps your game as well! Thanks for watching!
He’s not even hitting the distances he’s claiming… I know just how it looks… but you can catch him following his ball flight with his eyes and head moving…. The ball isn’t going anywhere lol. Apart from that, his idea is valid.
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Probably the best instruction video and system I’ve ever seen for control of distance with wedges, an issue that keeps me stuck on a Handicap of 6. Thanks a lot for sharing
Thanks, Kenneth! Happy to help!
Totally agree
Excellent advice. I will definitely try this system out. I need something like this to create a system that I can depend on to hit the different distances with my wedges. This makes a lot of sense. Thank you 🙏🏽
Thank you! hope this one helps!!
Great to see a smooth effortless swing every time.
:) Thank you!
Outstanding explanation on keeping it as simple as possible.
Thanks!
Thanks much! In my mind im gonna call this the Eric thing. This is the system I need to implement
:)
This makes eminent sense. Why hasn't anyone taught me this before ?! Many thanks for the instruction.
:)
Never came across the chest to chest, shoulder to shoulder idea as being ballpark 20 and 10 yards off - awesome stuff and I will work that into my final system for sure. I am currently practicing a waist to waist (w2w) system with 3 wedges (60/55/50 idea) where 40 yards = w2w with the 60 wedge, 60 yards =w2w with the 55 wedge, 80yards = w2w with the 50 wedge. Your chest and shoulder ideas will work perfectly after that and I will also practice your 56 degree wedge system to give me two types of flights. Thanks Eric.
I like it!
@@CogornoGolf As a follow up and after spending 2 hours today on the range practicing this method with my 56/57 degree wedge - it is fantastic. I also love the goto approximation of 20 yards & 10 yards less for shoulder to shoulder and ear to ear - it was great to give me goto approximate distances using my 50 degree gap and 46 degree PW which I know their carry's (122 & 137). Awesome stuff Eric!
Definitely need to employ this system for my 8i to wedges. My distances are gonna change but that's gonna be after I fix my bad mechanics
100% this was HUGE for my scoring!
Excellent instructional video Eric, really appreciated. With practice this should help reduce my handicap a lot.
Thanks, David! Yes it should!
Great advice. Very helpful.
Thanks Kirk!
Great lesson definitely going to use this, makes total sense!!!
Thanks, Alex!
Not sure how anyone could give that a thumbs down. Such a simple concept. Thank you
:)
Really like the idea of hitting less than full swings with the wedges to promote smoother tempo and transition between distances. Yardage control is something I'm working on this season and this will help a lot.
Yes exactly!
Very good stuff. Going to use this system
Thanks!
Excellent looking system looking forward to trying this out at the weekend!
Will work if you work it my friend!
Thanks for your video. None can tell me what happens if I swing a mid-iron like your system until you make this clip in practical.
Happy to help!
Excellent video and system!!! Definitely will implement in my practice
Love it!
I always use the Dave Pelz system but I will give this a try because I struggle 30-60 yards thanks
hope it helps!
Hi Eric,
I've come over from the Chris Ryan channel after watching the wrist video that you and he did, I'm very much looking forward to watching your content.
Cheers Olly C.
Awesome! Glad to have you hear, Olly! Chris is an awesome guy! Hope you enjoy the videos!
@@CogornoGolf he is that, one of the best UK based TH-cam coaches, always very clear and informative vids...
Seemingly yours are too, good work Eric 👌🏼
great video. are you looking at carry or total. i ask because i saw a trajectory video of yours and am curious which you are referencing.
Carry!
Loving the swing system for carry distances. A question regarding taking spin off and lowering trajectory for back pins into wind or running up the hill using less loft and viCe versa?
Thanks.
Back pin and into wind, error on 15 ft short. You can take more club and lower speed or keep same club and take longer swing length than normal. I would for sure lower traj either way
Thanks Eric, point taken. Like you i used to use a 56 for most distances inside my full 56 distance, and could lower and raise traj, but found lowering spin by taking more club and swinging easier for back pins , or getting the ball running more up hills got me closer than say 56 with tons of spin (unless I needed that for a particular pin/green speed)
You do great vids Eric. We’ve got to get the word out. Your quality of instruction is worthy of far more than 50k subscribers.
Thanks, Max! Spread the word baby!!!
Hi Eric,
Any reason why you started with the sand wedge? Is that your most lofted wedge or did you not use your lob wedge for a reason? Sorry if i missed the explanation of this in the video.
I don't use a 60* for wedge distances. I like to use 56* and coach my player to do so. Most players I see use a 60* can't flight the ball well enough nor control distance enough with it...ball goes too high.
If you can do with 60* you can use that....most perform better with 56* or 54*
Great lesson. Thank you
My pleasure!
always outstanding lecture and dedication.👍💪
Thanks, Joey!
This is true that this lecture is something very unique compared to others.
Hi Eric
When hitting your wedges and short irons to get close to the hole ,are you still using flexion and supination of the wrist for this swing? thank you
Its still happening...yes....but "less" on wedge shots....more as the shots get longer, less as they are shorter.
Short wedge shots for sure less flex and supinate bc we want to use the bounce....and those movements take the bounce away.
Hi Eric. For the longer shots (i.e. chest / chest upwards) with PW and 9i, are you still working on the premise of toe up and club face neutral/slightly open at address as per some of your other videos on wedge/short irons?
Hey Tim!
Great question!
No, I would prefer club face more tilted down same as back angle in backswing as the clubs get longer.
I would say that rule starts to apply from say 50 yards and beyond
My point on confusion comes from whether you hit eg a shoulder to shoulder shot with more of a pitch swing or is it simply a shortened full swing? In terms of hip rotation, upper body/arms dominance on the backswing (and downswing).
Btw is there anywhere I could donate to you? As I have been binge watching all your videos and would like to contribute past ad revenue however am not interested in the membership at this point in time.
Hey!
"My point on confusion comes from whether you hit eg a shoulder to shoulder shot with more of a pitch swing or is it simply a shortened full swing? In terms of hip rotation, upper body/arms dominance on the backswing (and downswing)."
-Shortened full swing!
"Btw is there anywhere I could donate to you? As I have been binge watching all your videos and would like to contribute past ad revenue however am not interested in the membership at this point in time."
-Thanks for the offer and support! We do not. We would love to have you as a member when you are ready
All the best
Perfectly timed video for me. Off to the range to work on this. Thanks Eric! What is the need for the cross over distances? I.e. 120 yards pw chest/chest vs 120 yards gap ear/ear. Are we considering wind conditions? I assume the best choice is the 120 PW chest chest knock down type shot?
Test proximity to the hole (10 shots) with both...pick whichever works best.
When in doubt, more club USUALLY better option
Eric thanks for answering my question so quick...I appreciate that..however I am experimenting with the Hogan method as I feel cramped in my swing if I set up square to the target line on my short irons...when I use the hogan method on my short irons should I open my hips up as well as my feet? Thanks
Hey Kenneth!
I would have to see your swing and know more to say...can't give you a black/white answer here as its not the same answer for everyone....so I can't possibly know without seeing your swing!
Real helpful,,,,as USUAL,,,,, I didn't realize that I could do that with my other irons😎
Yessir!
Love your videos...how should I set my feet up for the short irons...I always played using the old ben hogan set up..is that correct? Thanks
Really depends, Kenneth! No one correct answer here.
I have great players who do the hogan method.
I have some slightly open
I have some square
I have some closed
I would need to see your swing and now more to say!
Simple, easy, and effective. Thanks Eric!
Happy to help!
Thank you
Our pleasure Marti!
Heyyy perfect timing for this after my lesson with you yesterday (i was Eric with the blue polo) Keep up the good work Eric, see you in july!
Haha yessir!!
@@CogornoGolf Haha yup that was me "yessir"
Hi Eric, with my full swing I’ve had to take your previous advice and feel like I’m doing a half swing so I don’t overswing (club past parallel). Am I right in thinking that this wedge system will still work as the tempo is more a 2:1 tempo ration rather than a 3:1 tempo with a faster swing. Hope that makes sense.. cheers Lee
Hey Lee! Love it---yes that's fair
@@CogornoGolfThanks for the reply Eric. All the best!
Sorry to ask but are you involved in Performance Golf Zone? Have had an email about your 15 shots to no slice system but you don't mention it in your list below the video.
Yes-we work with PGZ to create and sell training programs! Our community is at Cogornogolf.com but we are fortunate to work with PGZ to help a lot of golfers who we aren't able to access here.
@@CogornoGolf Well I'm drawing Eric! A new experience - and a damned quick turn around. Thank you for the program. Now if only I could start the ball further to the right lol. Major progress in two days though
Awesome! Great start....gotta hit it left first and then gradually add path more right to straighten out
Thanks!
My pleasure
This is a good way to practice but hitting wedges and short irons close to the hole on a fairway with uneven or tight lies, elevated greens, etc. requires more calculation. How do you work this out?
Haha of course man...
If you don't have a good shot from 80 from neutral conditions what are the odds you do in other conditions?
You have to get basics right first. Same with full swing mechanics, chipping, etc.
Then you must do calculations....yes...thats a whole other video my friend.
Works great
Yessir!
Gr8 video! Carts guys were a bit distracting. 😂
What cart guys ?
@@robertmayer1497 In the beginning LOL~
Thanks!!
I want to hit these shots solid I can work on distancecontrol if I can hit them solid.
Love it
Great system conducive to clear thinking! Excellent! Thanks!
My pleasure!
Class 👍
Thanks, Mark!
When you do chest chest with pitch or 9 iron are you choking down and adjusting where you grip as well as stance ?
Yes prob 2 inch down chest to chest, 1 inch down shoulder
Are you saying you never hit full swings?
You can certainly use full swings! This system really helps with distance control and it allows you to take a shorter, more controlled swing which is great ALL the time...but especially great when you're having an off day and/or if it's really windy out (the shorter swings help keep the trajectory down).
Hope this one helps your game as well! Thanks for watching!
Very intresting… but I can’t s see a difference in your swing between shoulders and chest…
There's just a small difference! :)
Who thinks Arnold Palmer used wedges to tee off on par 3’s?? I do😂😂
He’s not even hitting the distances he’s claiming… I know just how it looks… but you can catch him following his ball flight with his eyes and head moving…. The ball isn’t going anywhere lol. Apart from that, his idea is valid.
:)
I wanted to learn something I didn't want to hear a damn commercial
haha thanks for the feedback Clark, my apologies
Those guys on the golf cart were being so fucking nosey like omg
Really excellent lesson.. Thanks
Appreciate it, my pleasure!