2024 August Watchtower: Jehovah's Chariot Changes Direction on Disfellowshipping, Marking & more!
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- The Governing Body has been asserting control over Jehovah's Witnesses since installing the disfellowshipping arrangement in the 1950's. Losing their religious status... and millions of dollars in handouts in several countries, has led Jehovah to pull the emergency brake on his chariot and change direction. We take a closer look at the 2024 August Watchtower and the changes to marking, disfellowshipping, judicial meetings and more! What could go wrong?
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Tight Pants Tony is probably fuming at this change. Really starting to think that his removal was due to his opposition to changes like this.
he's in North Carolina checking inseams....
And he didn't believe Armageddon was near and was vocal about it so they had to sack him
Of god Stacy, I thought the very same thing! If you really disliked someone in the congregation, you can now personally mark them. (You can always make up a good reason) This will open a big can of worms and I love it!! Elders phones will not stop ringing and text messages will fill their phones. I think the change is due to the government coming on to them for violating human rights. By letting each member do the marking, the responsibility is no longer with watchtower,but with each individual. Thanks for beautiful chariot ride into the spiritual paradise!!!!
exactly!!! this is going to cause major problems as now everyone has the right to disfellowship someone without an announcement....problems incoming!
Mark the Watchtower:
@@karenwestberg5838 I like it!
Lol Jehovah's Chariot should be featured in the next Fast & Furious movie, because it's drifting hard off course 😂
😂😂😂 miss you darth
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LOL..... just picture all that godly white hair whipping in the wind! LOL
From my perspective, “removed” still means the same thing as disfellowshipped… The courts are not idiots. Looking forward to further courts versus JW leadership 🍿🍿
Yep! Their resorting to desperate measures to cover up their tyrannical, authoritarian treatment of members. "Disfellowshipped", "shunned", "ostracized", "expelled", "kicked out", "canned", "removed";.....It all means the same thing.
Absolutely, they're playing with semantics!
"Everyone's ass puckers ..." I LMAO when you said that. =)
LOL, I'm out of control
Hello beautiful and amazing people!
Hello!!!
[The scene opens with a heavenly garage, angels tinkering with various celestial vehicles. God sits at a divine desk, flipping through a heavenly calendar. The phone rings.]
God: (Answering the phone) Hello, God speaking. How may I direct your prayer?
Mechanic Angel: Hey God, it's Gabriel down at the garage. Just wanted to let you know, the chariot's due for its service.
God: (Puzzled) Service? But isn't it supposed to be perfect and omnipotent? Why would it need a service?
Mechanic Angel: Well, you know how it is. Even the divine machinery needs a little tweaking now and then. Keeps the faithful on their toes.
[Cut to a Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body meeting room. The members are gathered around a large table, poring over charts and scriptures.]
Chairman: Alright folks, we have a bit of a situation. It seems our "new light" has dimmed again. We need to come up with an explanation that keeps the flock confident in our exclusive approval by God.
Elder 1: How about we say it was right for its time, but now we have more information, so we need to adjust our understanding?
Elder 2: Yes, yes. We can't call it an error, though. Imperfection implies God made a mistake, and we can't have that. Let's say it's "progressive understanding."
Elder 3: Brilliant! And we can call it "new light." That way, we can correct the error without admitting it was an error in the first place.
[Cut back to the heavenly garage. God is still on the phone.]
God: Gabriel, do you think they're buying it down there?
Mechanic Angel: Oh, absolutely. They're spinning it as "new light" again. It's a clever way to cover up the fact that the chariot's GPS is, well, less than divine.
God: (Sighs) I created the universe, and yet they can't fathom the idea of a simple apology. Always twisting and turning to fit their narrative.
Mechanic Angel: It's like watching a game of theological Twister. They're so wrapped up in their own rules they can't see the obvious.
God: (Laughing) Well, as long as they keep believing, I suppose. Just make sure the chariot's ready for its next journey. Wouldn't want it breaking down on the way to another revelation.
[The scene ends with God hanging up the phone, shaking His head in bemusement as the Governing Body members continue to pat themselves on the back for their ingenious "new light" revelation.]
That’s was good!!😀😄😁
a script writer in the making...well done
Thank you. Satire is probably the finest and most powerful form of critique. It's easy to remember and easier to convey.
The sober side is these wicked men cost lives with their propaganda and false reasoning.
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That chariot needs a little Detuning, it constantly leaving religious zealots in the dust .. I mean dark!
Back in the 70's, they gave a marking talk for my teenage, unbaptized brothers. That should have been our signal to leave, but their brainwashing of myself and my family proved effective at the time.
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1..
@@vusimngomezulu2500 I do not believe the Bible is the word of "God". All of you christians are so divided...I want no part of it and your evil god (small g) Jehovah/Yahweh.
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None of those verses mention Watchtower or JWs. Sorry. Try again.
Besides, who cares what anonymous Bronze Age Bible writers had to say about anything, especially religion?
@@vusimngomezulu2500how many times do I have to tell you jw's to proof read your work before sending it?
The Watchtower has failed you in so many ways.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 Please show me that in the Bible.
Thank you, Stacy, for this incredible podcast. Let me also say that I believe bigger changes are yet to come with respect to disfellowshipping or removal. Rumor has it that the WTBTS will proclaim a "Jubilee Year" which will in effect be a blanket amnesty for all removed and disassociated individuals to return to the organization and be granted reinstatement, no questions asked. In light of the changes the August 2024 Watchtower has announced, that would be a logical next step. I'm not insisting this will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. Many doubtless would take advantage of such an arrangement should it come to pass. I understand that. They want to regain the love of family and friends they have lost. As for me, I will never go back to this criminal organization. A gilded cage is still a cage, and I won't give up the freedom I have found since I was removed almost twenty years ago.
Nice..you covered this. Here we go
Thanks Randy!
You will always be my favorite former Angel. lol
Always love your take on these changes. Keep em coming.
I was cracking up with this one! It came out so organically LOL
Does your user name refer to 'Pouring out the 7 last plagues?'
@@derelbriarley6786 lol, no, song 113 in the old song book was “we’re jehovahs witnesses”
It’s just a word play that the older gen’s will get.
LOL!!! What a SLIP!!!!!
@@hiramiamilan4392 LOL, thanks for putting up with me
I lightly referenced this podcast at our family dinner, and before I could say anything else about it, all I got was that he's most likely an apostate. They wouldn't answer any questions when I tried bringing them up afterward, but yet they continue to ask me when I'll be going back to the meetings with them. 🙄
Thank you so much for mentioning this crazy show. :( I'm sorry about your family, my family is much the same way. They don't know the answers...at all. So few read or study in that cult....they just get into the routine and stay.....I'm so sorry, but I'm glad they speak with yoU!
@survivingparadisepodcast it's just funny to me at this point. they all wanna make me the butt of every joke since I have a slight mental disorder yet I'm the only one who's actually doing research on things before blindly following, yet somehow I'm the crazy one 🤷♂️
I got disfellowship treatment from age 15 to present day im now nearly 40. I never got baptized either so totally uncalled for. I wonder if anyone will feel remorse and apologise 🤔 I wont hold my breath
Me too apart from my close family. I left at 16 and I'm 45 now. My dad recently passed away and I went into the kh for his funeral and I could feel the judgement and stares. Only one elder spoke to me to say hello. Oh well. I'm a good person and I'm surrounded by people who love me unconditionally
@@Fadedexjw It's disgusting. Sorry to hear this. I won't be attending any funerals at the kingdom hall for this reason as I have a feeling this will also happen to me. Not putting myself threw it
@Smyrna
Far too proud to apologise.
Jehovah's Witnesses NEVER apologise!!
@@Fadedexjw
The "worldly" have UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
@Smyrna37 I could see one sister was unsure if she could approach me. She did come and give me a hug in the end but she shouldn't have had to worry. I wasnt disfellowshipped and was never baptised. But I am definitely 'bad association' because I was the 'rebel' but like I said to my mum 'I just couldn't be myself in that religion'
I'm happy with my life. I have a loving partner and amazing kids. I enjoy my job and have many friends.
I only went into the kh because it was my dad and I wanted to support my mum. I sat at the front and held my mums hand.
If yah got disfellowshipped ... it means you have a moral conscious and a backbone,
...yep....usually a 'thinker'
Stacey, I'm gonna have to mark you as my angel. This episode was great. The changes remind me of Stealers Wheel's Stuck in the Middle With You (1972) as I faded in 2006.
Awwww, thank you!!! I'm so glad you faded!!!
When your core is dying off fast ... and then throwing out basically good members .. by power mad little tyrants in the congregation hall ... is a bad survival strategy.
Very bad and you nailed it, it's definitely a survival tactic
First!!
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Humility 😊.. So lacking it has Always been Blindingly obvious in this "organization". So apparent even as a Child I was stunned by its absence in the "adults" surrounding me.😮
For all my time I have known that I do Not contain the ability to even judge an empty soup can on the side of the road😅
Above my pay grade as a mere mortal. 😅 No matter what label is conveniently applied.
My Humanity is too intact. My responsibility as a whole Human is to be motivated to attempt to meet(not inhabit or reside)Anyone exactly where they are😊.
To leave things Better than I found them. Period.
The reward? That look of appreciation I was gifted when my fellow human realized they were not only being listened to, but Heard! The Wisdom & Knowledge laid at my feet- Treasure! 🌟🤗
False piety & Pride? Not useful or helpful to Humanity! 😕
Very well said Cindy!!!! And the fact that this was happening to you and so many of us as children is despicable. It's not okay on any level!
The Chariot sounds an awful lot like Santa riding on his sleigh.
And coincidently, he has 9 reindeer if you count Rudolf.
Coincidence? 😂
and Santa is an anagram for Satan
Why do I feel like this is going to blow back in watchtowers face. Some individuals are all ready self righteous and now they just got power to become inquisitors and executioners. Unbelievable!!!!!
sit back and watch nexts week episode of ''the congregations trials days of our lives''
I completely agree! This is going to cause so many problems....this will be a very bad move in the long run!
@@astridmiller7938 LOL, so true!
👏👏👏🌟Thank You!🌟🌟👏👏☯️
Hey Stacy! Love it, as always! Ahh yes, Jah's chariot is just tearing things up, isn't it?? Seems like the chariot driver fell asleep at the wheel! 😂😂😂 Hey, I'm going live this evening, drop in and join us! Take care and stay dry!
Ah, I just saw this!! Live where??? Send me info!
Hi Stacy 👋🏻 excellent episode, thx! Ok so I’m thinking here,,,, my first language is Spanish, born and raised in a Spanish speaking country, and of course, everything about the Society was in Spanish,,,, now, why am I bringing this up?…. Because in Spanish, the actual translation for “removal” is ,,,, wait for it,,,, ELIMINACIÓN ,,,, (elimination) yep and it’s a pretty strong word, not really how it’s used here in the states like when you play a game and loose, no, when you kill bugs at home, you “eliminas” cucarachas, when you watch an R movie (which you shouldn’t if you are a JW) and the evil guy kills someone, you say he “eliminó” that guy ,,,,, and if use the word within a softer context, “eliminar” still means to get rid of something, permanently (I said that in my head with an Steven Lett voice LOL) so seriously now, we’ll see how the organization does this in Spanish. Have a great week! ☀️
hi! Thank you for being here and sharing this! WOW, that is such a negative word!! Elimination is awful. I'm so glad to know this, thank you!
Its a little sad & shocking that everyone is so excited by the "changes". Im with you. Its really just "legal" word changes. My 1st thought was, "wow, now any molesters who get "removed", will be back in mere months." Im just shaking my head about how easily they manage to get "individuals" to go along with this bogus crap! 😒🙄
YES!!! It shows something we don't like to talk about: how uneducated and delusional most JWs are.....they just accept a word change without any additional thoughts!
Hello Stacey, I couldn't wait to hear your thoughts about this, "CHANGE". What a Joke!! Like u Said this isn't "Change" It's a PLAY on WORDS and only the "Rank and File" Will take this info and not question a word of it!! So sad to see how, (Dare I Say) DUMB!! We were to Believe this Crock of S..t I am Very annoyed! Thank You Stacey for putting some humor on this 1. I need a Drink and it's only 8am 😂 Have a Great Week Stacey!!
Be cautious freind The drink can be just as treacheros as beleiving in watchtower s bullsh.t
Thank you Michelle!!!! It's beyond DUMB....it's insulting on every level. They truly believe their people are stupid. It's tragic!
Wondered how youd bring Noah in - well done😅
We can't go a week without Noah, thanks for noticing!
How is it that your videos get even better over time - of course, it doesn't hurt that the WTS has been shooting themselves in the foot with the plethora of changes. (I'm glad you highlighted that many of these changes are CLEARLY coming from the WTS's legal department and NOT Jesus or Jehovah!) Stacey, you produce some of the best exJW videos out there. I have no doubt that hundreds - if not thousands - of JWs are going to wake up if they stumble across them and watch them. It's like that old Lays commercial, "I'll bet you cannot eat just one", well this is very applicable to your vides too. I found it impossible to only watch one - that is just how well your videos are!
WOW! Thank you so much Joe! That is very kind...I deeply appreciate the feedback, even when if it's critical! Thank you SO much for being here!
Whats uncertain to me is what watchtower's longterm playbook is now that this marking change has occurred.
My expectation was that legally they couldnt be seen as an organization that mandated shunning to its members. I always expected them to boil the frog with the disfellowshipping policy...where every few years they'd smooth out the harsh edges of it until it was chiseled down to nothing/ abolished.
Now that members mark each other, im not sure they're trying to place the powdered wig and gavel in the possession of each member....and then pointing to the members saying "each baptized member decides who they associate with and who they don't. They aren't mandated, and they aren't coerced....now give us back our tax exemption!"
Fantastic assessment. Like you, I predicted more of that 'boiled frog' strategy as well....but they've done one better: they kept DFing and handed it out to everyone...absolving themselves when governments want to take away status or $$....they can now say it's up to each 'member' to do it....
Agreed! It will be something that goes off the rails. Authorizing individuals to withdraw their brotherly love for just that, differences in opinion. And they won't bat an eye. It's going to be sh** show. Oh wait, it already is. 😂
The GB9 just can't get out of their own way.
"Authorizing individuals to withdraw their brotherly love".................The love of the greater number cooling off. Well said.
YES, it's going to be a free for all with personal shunning....what could go wrong? LOL
I believe this move takes the onus away from the organization and places it on the individual member - by so doing they are no longer accountable to authorities who are coming after them for their shunning policy.
yes, thereby absolving them of ANYTHIN someone does with shunning....they can avoid trouble from the legal system in any country by saying "well, it's an individual choice to shun".......not hard to see what they're doing....they're shifting responsibility while continuing to shun people. Insulting and disgusting.
@@survivingparadisepodcast they're doing what major corporations do. contracting it out!
I am Misfit too & Can Sympathize Noah Good Luck 🤞🍀🎉😂❤
You're in good company!
Thanks, Stacey ❤❤❤
thank YOU!
A parasite that skins it's host , , IS living in paradise ! Not so for the food class .
great illustration!
Watchtower - Report wrongdoing.
Me to Congregation - The organization is mishandling and covering up CSA. Here is the evidence.
Elders - We would like to invite you to a judicial hearing.
Being humble and being sorry is a one way street for this organization.
It's incredible hypocrisy, isn't it?? Insane....disgusting on every level!
" This god that I worship , this demon I blame .... conspire as one and are exactly , exactly , exactly the same "
Niiiiiceeeeeee
@@survivingparadisepodcast This ones from a song too . A Lamb Of God song
By marking individuals JW'S have become JUDGES!
They're following Rutherford!
YES they have!
@@derelbriarley6786 Judge Joe lives!
When do they mail out those old bounce notices to past dustfellowers? Come back ... all is forgiven,
I can almost guaratee there will be a letter to the Body of Elders
👋🏼Warm greetings from SW Florida. Stacey…, I don’t know who’s harebrained idea it was to allow Women in pants! The recent Spanish Assembly I attended was very boring and a huge “Big butt tight pants, thong-marked, camel toe” FEST… All thanks to Jehovah’s Chariot…🙄🙄🙄 I wouldn't be surprised if His Chariot did a u-turn on this one...
I haven't been to a Kingdom Hall in pretty much thirty years. Are they really wearing skin tight pants, showing thongs and all? Are you exaggerating or being serious? Please let me know if possible! Thanks
Did the really wear that? What part of South Florida?
LOL, LOL oh no!! I'd love to hear what your seeing and the general vibe at the Spanish assemblies.... there is now a lot of room for personal choice....it will keep the elders busy!
@@survivingparadisepodcast The Spanish JW crowd in General are showy to the Max! I mean, Men showing other Men the type of eye candy they have, and Women flexing on other Women about how good they look… It’s insufferable… Quite a number of TIGHT White pants which revealed completely the color of the not-white underwear, and bright colored tops tucked-in…. I feel secured that the Bethel Rep reported it back to the WTBTS as a major failure in the Spanish Circuits. Definitely they’ll be Watchtower articles on it soon!
"Judicial Committee" will now be referred to as a "Spiritual Colonoscopy".
My mom and my friend’s mom got in a yelling match back in the 70’s over this marking business. I was personally marked by her because I made friends with a “worldly acting” witness teen 😂 and jealousy erupted. I can just see the drama to come in the org 🤓😛
LOL, oh YES, I saw many, many fights over marking..... they just handed them a disastrous weapon. This alone will make many elders step down.....bank it
A lot of jehovah's witnesses are unhappy in the spiritual paradise.
They sure are..... many are leaving paradise ;)
❤Your last words were be well, and indeed your video made me well! Thank you! I wanna say I gave your video a "like" early in the video, and boy you didn't disappoint! I'm a new subscribed, before this video I had only seen a handle full of your "short" videos. I wanna say you made me laugh and smile numerous times throughout this video. To be honest, I haven't smiled and laughed too much in a long while, and that changed while viewing your video(listening to you). Like I previously said in a comment on one of your video's, Jehovah is my God and only potential Savior. No so sure at all about Jesus being the only begotten son/blood atonement of Jehovah. Went to the Kingdom Hall for a few years as a preteen, never got baptized, got punished for it. Anyways I have a couple questions if you'd be kind enough to answer, when you have time of course.
Question one, what does "marking" intail. Is it physical, mental, verbal? I'm not familiar with it.
My second question is, of course I wouldn't expect you to leave me your email address in TH-cam, but if I left you my email address in a TH-cam comment to you, would you email me so we can correspond with each other, obviously only if your willing!
I find you to be very intriguing, smart, articulate, and very informed about a subject that is very meaningful to me! If you'd be so kind to answer those to questions, that would easily make me month! Thanks! Great work on this video/talk
Thank you Joseph, I appreciate you being here, as well as your kind words! JWs have complicated 'marking' as described in the Bible. They usually give a talk outlining something someone in the congregation has done (and which everyone knows about or can see) and let everyone know it's wrong and you wouldn't 'hang out' with someone that makes those decisions....it's basically a softer shunning! thank you for being here and email for us is in our profile description. Thanks Joseph!
Jehovah gave wrong directions and finally put it in google and is back on track to paradise
He get's lost a lot and backtracks
Spot on!! Let the games begin!! Wonder if this will cause so much drama and turmoil people will exit stage left like dropping flies?!!
Yep, let's hold the door!
is this chariot manual or automatic diesel or petrol
I think it runs on lithium ion batteries that catch fire and blow up every so often, 1:12:20 I heard of instances where that has happened and has burned entire buildings down! Who knows, maybe that will happen here as well
@@jimobenauf5262
Ha ha! Lol!!! 😆🤣😂
what does it do over the quarter mile?
The real question is: is Jehovah's chariot a riding mower, or a push mower?
The Chariot is more like an old Pinto that barely runs. 😂😂
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You're an Angel Bro. 😎
LOL....not even close!
Pull the brake on on his chariot to cause it to change direction.
More like a bulldozer operator pulling one steering lever to cause brakes yo be applied to one set of tracks causing the dozer to "slew" in a different direction.
Those 9 geriatrics called Governing Body at tge controlls of this vehicle BULLDOZING its way through society.
I agree, great illustration!
Cookies and spinach? You might have something there 😅
LOL, I'm crazy...but it's true
" Send in the clowns "
I should have played that song!
would love to see it run in the Bathurst 1000 out here in Australia.
well october is ''just around the corner''
ha, me too!
Main Points:
Introduction:
Host Stacy Balman, former Jehovah's Witness elder and ministerial servant, discusses recent changes in the Jehovah's Witness organization.
Emphasis on the personal nature and humor of the podcast.
Changes in the Watchtower:
The August 2024 issue of the Watchtower introduces significant changes in doctrines related to disfellowshipping, marking, and other organizational practices.
Jehovah's Witnesses' view on disfellowshipping and shunning has been revised, indicating a shift in the organization's direction.
Discussion on Jehovah's Chariot:
Jehovah's Chariot metaphor used to describe the organization’s direction and control.
Emphasis on how Jehovah's Witnesses believe the organization is divinely directed.
Personal Reflections:
Host shares personal anecdotes and reflections on the organization's practices, including the handling of sin and repentance.
Critical of the organization’s past and current practices, highlighting perceived inconsistencies and issues.
Organizational Adjustments:
Changes include how marking is handled, moving the responsibility to individual members rather than elders.
The shift in terminology from “disfellowshipping” to “removal from the congregation.”
Impact of Changes:
Host predicts that these changes will lead to confusion and possible misuse within congregations.
Concerns about the implications for interpersonal relationships and community dynamics within the organization.
Critique of the Organization:
Host criticizes the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses for not apologizing or acknowledging the harm caused by past practices.
Points out the lack of scriptural basis for many of the organization’s rules and changes.
Legal and Social Implications:
Changes are seen as a response to legal pressures and court cases faced by the organization.
Emphasis on how the organization’s leadership is adapting to avoid legal repercussions.
Conclusion:
Host encourages listeners to read the August 2024 Watchtower themselves to understand the changes.
Reflects on the broader implications of these changes for the future of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Overall Rating: B-
Reasoning:
Content: The video provides a thorough and critical analysis of recent changes within the Jehovah's Witness organization. It is informative and detailed but may be lengthy and repetitive for some viewers.
Delivery: The host’s delivery is engaging and personal, but the tone can be sarcastic and critical, which might not appeal to all viewers.
Clarity: The points are well-explained, but the depth of detail may overwhelm those unfamiliar with the subject matter.
Thanks for the critique!
@@survivingparadisepodcastThank you so much for the way you open up this can of worms Of all the other s I ve looked at' you do give me the best moral i need I m dying with lung cancer emphyseme hepatite c epilepsy and as I already said Ive lost half of my familly in this cult . . .
There are some wheels lost from the chariot and the nine Guys are lost their Way !
They fell out LOL
Idk why they added the part about not saying outloud that someone was disfellowshipped but instead just telling the congregation that they left. At the congregation, I'm at (im pimo), they just say, "[insert name here] is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." Does the departure message vary by congregation?
That was the same announcement when I was an elder and JW ....at least at the end. But they're now changing it in many cases due to how it's impact legal issues/situations.
@@survivingparadisepodcast ofc, that makes sense
9 god men have to stop them lawsuit 💰 in them other countries and here so why not take elders responsible away and give it to jw's member's and blame them....another mess!!!! for member's
An absolute disaster incoming
Great job Stacey! I'd send a question to the WB$TS Inc. if I knew where to send it hope for it to be published in the "Questions From Readers" section if I knew where to send it. My question would be (just one among many) ..Why would anyone who NEVER left God and is repentent want to return to a congregation who removed them?
Love it Gwen! And I hate to break your heart, but it's highly likely they would never print that LOL! Also, most Questions from the Readers are completely fabricated. But I LOVE what you did there!
@@survivingparadisepodcast I knew they were fabricated when they fabricated ridiculous questions years ago. Such as if a vasectomy would be accepted as a form of birth control for JWs to use, seeing as how they can be reversed or something like that. I mean REALLY! THAT is a kind of question it would choose to publish and answer in it's publication?
Do you think many will return, as a result of these, so-called” changes?
I don't think so Arlene. I think many will stay away. I actually believe these types of changes are meant to keep those currently in....those that have left see through this type of stuff so much easier.
These changes won't bring people back, but it may help to keep those who leave/have left, silent.
The allowance of at least some communication with family, on condition of not saying anything that classes you as "an apostate", will keep many from daring to speak out.
The Apostate voice is huge now, and a major threat to the organisation. Jw.Borg hive mind must find a way to silence as many who leave as possible.
I forgot and please don’t have any air deceptiveness about what you’ve done.They really won’t trust you.
Sorry, not following on this.....but deception is part of their daily life
Jehovahs wickedness
I've got some past episodes on that subject
Not only did Jesus NEVER use the name Jehovah, but he showed him not to be the true father by his description at Matt 7: 7-11. Jehovah in the Scriptures is Enlil in the Sumerian Tablets... thousands of years older than the Bible, and the basis for the Old Testament history.
I’m sorry, but under the Levitical priesthood all that David did has been deemed official acts of the king so he has immunity from Jehovah’s punishment
Oh, all have imunity from "Jehovah's" judgement.
Christ the LORD is Judge.
That might be true, but in speaking to character and propping David up as an 'example' for Jehovah's Witnesses, is he really someone we should emulate? Does his record show a stable man that made good decisions? No chance. He's quite possibly the most polarizing person in the Bible that makes a Bible reader question everything that comes after him...including killing people for stealing, not sharing $$ on real estate deals, etc. King David may have had free reign, but all that does is call into question Jehovah himself. Why?
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So when Jeus and "Jehovah" are out running around in their Chariot, who is sitting on the throne in heaven..?
Of course nothing like that can be found in scripture; the Father remains in heaven. Always.
But he has a cool chariot! ;)
We all know you meant to say "glorious one", not "angel". Be honest.
LOL, I'm neither glorious nor angelic....trust me LOL
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention; billions of dollars in lawsuits for assaults against human rights, tends to sway their minds to change! As you so poignantly exposed Stacy!😆
Thank you! It's so disturbing!
Are you Jude ?
nope, I can confirm I'm not Jude.....but I do love the Beatles song! ;)
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
"Mr. Dc3" Do you even know wtaf you're ranting and raving about in that tldr dialog. Ridiculous! It has nothing to do with the subject matter and just unnecessarily over the top. Calm down.
@@soskeepingitreal9401 so, you need to calm down
@@soskeepingitreal9401 and what's wrong with IMPROVEMENT?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 IF there is GENUINE improvement nothing is wrong with it. If they so called improvement doesn't actually improve anything, then everything is wrong with it. Imho making a play on words outwardly but keeping things the same inwardly isn't improvement. It's lying, manipulating and gaslighting. Please read this again.🙏🏾✌🏾
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Mr. DC has a standard, say-nothing rant he posts under every ex-JW video. He thinks he's actually making WT and JWs look good when he posts his off-topic, mindless comments. Just ignore him. He's a WT troll.