It feels like a short shifter. I understand you want long shifts for a truck sim. But I don't see why you would want to stirr a soup when playing racing games.
@@codemy666 ayyy I did a lap with the lotus 98t at the green hell, and it was fun 😂 my arm was so tired from overtaking and accelerating so much - but so much fun with clutch+stick+ sketchy heel toe
@@1nain_poli556 I literally feel like I'm watching some indian scammer when I watch his videos. If you're over 10 and are able to watch a video of his for more than 5 minutes, there's a problem.
@@woooshbait2102 you can make it better than it is normally. For people that don't have the money to buy a th8a, or fanatec shifter, you can modify this shifter with rubber bands, 3D printed improvements mods that make it a stiffer shifter, sequential mods that act the exact same as a th8a sequential and many, many more. For a cheap shifter, you can have fun with it and if it breaks, oh well. They're like $60. Although I do suggest getting the TH8A if you have more
Yeah, there's a lot of mods for it, 3d printed or not, adapter from H pattern to sequential, knob adapter, actual gate etc, for 60 bucks it's... Okay, but if you ca' get it on sale, it's more than serviceable. I got mine for 40 bucks and it's holding up quite well (although moded)
Supposedly, the mechanism, that changed from H-pattern to sequential modes was one of the first things, that broke, so that's why they dropped it in G27 shifter. And since G29 had all of the buttons on the wheel (G27 had just 6 buttons and G25 just 2), they didn't need the buttons on the shifter anymore
yeah, but it would be awesome if you had the buttons on the wheel + on the shifter. Especially when drifting if you need a button for the e-brake it's basically impossible to press. But everyone has their preferences
My only issue is that it feels like plastic when shifting. It has no weight to it. It feels unsatisfying to run between gears. But it gets the job done so I overlook it
You could try putting hair ties looped through the inside under the leather cover, it will make it a feel I little bit more realistic. Look at the reviews on Amazon, one of the first that pop up shows how to do it
Most of these things are due to price, I don't see how going in reverse is that difficult for you, but I've got a car that uses the same mechanism so I guess I'm used to it. The shifts are WAY better short, you don't want to be shifting with a long throw in a sports car it makes shifting really slow compared to the shorter throw and is actually harder for me to miss gears when using short throw shifters. The thrustmaster shifter is about the same throw, but the leaver is longer and the shifter is gated.. and it costs twice as much..
I agree with what you said. I think the biggest problem with this shifter is simply how little force is actually required to switch gears. Totally aware that this is due to its low price and in all honestly, I don't know of any other H-pattern shifters in the market at this price point. This shifter isn't bad considering the price, I wouldn't say its necessarily good either. Its kind of just decent for the price. The title of this video makes it seem like this is a terrible product, I recognize that, but this is TH-cam and views are views lol.
@@OCRacing Do you really prefer ruining your credibility for youtube views? Doesn't misleading people ruin it for you? I'm not trying to be mean I'm genuinely trying to help
@@OCRacing This is the sort of shifter for noobs getting into sim racing or for hooning around on FH4. It's cheap, mounts fairly sturdy to a table and does the job asked of it. For someone with an xbox and a couple of racing games it's fine, when you're getting to fanatec wheels/pedals and hydraulic handbrakes ect then of course you'll want a better shifter. The fact you can buy the g923 wheel/pedals and for an extra $60 this is, like i say, great for noobs.
I totally understand what you mean about the reverse and 6th. When I'm not in a rush I can easily get reverse. When in a race and need reverse quickly, you don't realise how much force and travel it takes to push down to get reverse
I think this shifter is the best starting point for anyone that wants to get into sim racing. Is it mediocre? Yes. Cheap? Absolutely. But for a beginner, it can't be beat. The best part is that you can usually find these in the used market for even less money.
All of these things can be fixed/modded. Just one example, get a custom shift knob for it, their cheap and come in a lot of sizes and shapes, that will fix the crappy plastic top and the feel of the shifts feeling too close
The problem with reverse is actually well known, it seems it occurs in all versions. This is caused by micro-cracks on the circuits of that small board with two wires and a switch, which can be found at the very bottom inside of the shifter. The reason it don't react sometimes is after some number of pressing the lever down to use the reverse, it presses that button on that tiny board, and clearly it's not sturdy enough and eventually connections on that board are sometimes split/broken (there's two of these lines, leading from one of the wires to the switch and then back to the second wire.) To fix that you need to re-make these two circuits, ie. by soldering some wire instead, which will be much more sure working in such stressful conditions. So: open the shifter, carefully remove the main shift mechanism and locate that little board somewhere under it. (it's good to hold the mechanism, to not have to waste time reassembling some parts of it when you let it split to parts.. try to find someone to hold it for that time or maybe use some clamp, like these for woodworkers) Then fix these mentioned connections on that board (don't waste your time examining how they look and trying to find the break on them. You'll probably won't, such are too small to recognize them easily, just solder wires to connect the points which are originally connected with these lines, then put it back, assemble with the mechanism and that should be it.
@@akunkloningan4547 That's great! But if it stopped to work, then started, it can later stop again in any time. So, I made then some photoguide and could not send the image url any way, now I'll try again, in separate comment, about my new wheel. If you won't see it here somewhere, they maybe clean comments with links, or something. And in such case I don't know anymore how to send a simple picture to a person, in todays weird internets.
@@andrievbastichy8551 So, I said last time, I can't record a video of that anymore, because I don't have that shifter. I made a rig upgrade level up and moved to T300 last year. I use it with that asian no-name metal-box H-shifter from that webshop, which name starts with A and ends with S. And you people struggling with breaking tiny Logi shifter, you all should really be interested in checking what I'm talking about, if someone didn't hear about it somehow. Google or see some vid on yt, number of people there tests it, just search for asian shifter review or h-shifter [+ that webshop name, which I probably cannot mention here]. So, finally: - G25 Logitech wheel - SHIFTER REVERSE FIX - graphic guide with a problem description and solution how-to: pas teboard. co / pvMm5nnapThy . jpg (omit spaces)
You know what makes this shifter worlds better? A new shifter knob, i 3d printed a stick one for mine so it’s taller and it fixed all 5 of these errors, shifting feels great
So i literally just bought a G29 with the shifter as my first ever wheel. Ive never used any sim wheels aside from logitech ones before, so idk about those, but I *HAVE* owned driven plenty of real manual cars, so im comparing it mainly to my real car outside. It feels... good enough. Yes, the reverse gear was the first thing I noticed. It hates going into reverse, also the shifter feels too light for what im used to. Yeah the gears are very close together, but I havent had any problems with miss shifts so far, only once or twice. Otherwise for me, it feels satisfying and realistic enough for my needs at least.
The problem with shifting into reverse may just be your unit.... I've played with the G27 and G29 shifters, and in both of the units that I played with went into reverse completely fine. I actually modded my G27 shifter by adding some velcro to the inside where the shift mechinism is that result in better feel when you shift and reduced noise of the stick hitting the walls on the inside.
Yes, everything you mention is also what happens on my shifter too. To conclude: The shifter is and feels extremely cheap but it does the job (most of the times)
I completely agree with you. The feel is so discouraging. I literally drive a manual in real life and the feel between gears make me go to neutral every time I play GT6. I finally upgraded to the Fanatec GT DD Pro with load cell pedal and Fanatec 7 speed shifter in preparation for GT7. I hate this shifter with a passion.
having buttons and a sequential mode would have been really cool for sure. no clue why they thought removing the buttons and stuff was a good idea. I have to agree about the plastic bit on the knob, after a handful of sessions with it, it started moving around and popping up like yours. I got used to the reverse gear, it became easier once i got a frame for my rig and wasnt afraid to push on stuff. and yeah it is pretty toy-like. i like how easy it is to push into gear (i practically just slap the thing forward to go 4th-3rd). but yeah, having a nice clunk feeling would complete it. But the price tho! considering a thrustmaster shifter is like $170 and all you get extra is sequential mode and a 7th gear (dont know if it feels any better, I would hope but i havent tried it), logitech prob doesnt see a reason to make the shifter better or cheaper. good to know other people have some of the same gripes as I do.
@@AhmedSaleh-ii6ng Dont buy pxn v900 or v9 its a piece of **** it has no force feedback and for 100 and 230 its not worth it Buy something like t150 pro or g29/g920
the buttons are on the wheel now when they weren't on the g25 or g27, but it makes it even more baffling how this isn't included since it was on on oder wheels
@@user-nw5oc8pl5m Yes, to my knowledge, Removing it will not impact its functionality, although dirt can enter it more easily, reducing its service life.
I totally agree. Especially with point #2, me being a rallying snob, and currently learning pace notes fully, it is INCREDIBLY annoying when I just rev my engine and don't go anywhere. (ps, I would definitely recommend getting an aftermarket shifter knob) (oh and double ps, preferably get a shorter shifter knob, because the shorter, the more force it takes to get it into gear. And that's definitely a plus with this shifter).
This is kinda nitpicking. #5 - In countries like the UK, the shifter literally comes as a free gift with the wheel. #4 - Those buttons come on the wheel. Logitech probably thought there's no sense in having 2 sets of the same buttons. #3 and #1 are the same point. If it weren't plastic it would end up costing more. #2 - I always just moved it to neutral and then hit the left paddle to reverse. Much easier.
as someone getting into simulators, the worst part about the shifter is the connector. I got my shifter as a impulse purchase when it was on a special and I had no idea that I would need to pay so much more for an adaptor or even a new wheel
When I owned a g27 I tried a handful of mods, none of them really made me happy. Aftermarket shift knobs make it much heavier, and then the shifter feels sloppy as you are able to easily overpower the detent bearings (these let you feel a click of resistance between gears). For the price I can't put it down too much, but I see it as a stepping stone for someone new to sim racing that isn't ready to pay $2-300 for a shifter alone
That reverse issue you talked about, I had the exact same issue. Pissed me off so much I bought a new one thinking mine was broken. So far I'm surprisingly not having the same issue on the new shifter. Glad I wasn't the only one having that issue
Fun Fact the shifter wasn’t downgraded it was just changed because the past wheels had no other buttons or Dpad but I do agree on this beacuse there is no more option to make it a up and down shifter and a H pattern shifter.
I still wish it had some extra programmable buttons but it’s most likely due to it being marketed for consoles aswell. Where tf did sequential go though
I bought my g920 just over a year ago for £200 brand new with the shifter included. I bought an adapter and a deep dish wheel from ebay for £20 and it was probably the best thing I've ever bought.
And as for my shifter, I've never had any issues with it so far in terms of shifting or getting into reverse. I'm really surprised that it hasn't broken yet considering I absolutely abuse it on a daily basis.
@@milku2481 you talking about the adapter? That's for the steering wheel I put on it, the logitech steering wheel bolt holes don't fit a regular steering wheel.
Personal experience, first time i tried it, i was impressed how poor the materials are. You have to be really careful while changing gears to not break the shifter due to its short gear design. It feels like im shifting a toy car.
These things last a year at most. My second one just started hitting the shitter so I spent the money on the TH8A from Thrust master. It's a longer throw, but has a sequential and 7 speed manual. It uses magnetic hall effect sensors which means that the only moving part is the stick itself, and there are no moving internal parts to wear down. It's genuinely made out of 99%, the only exception being trim pieces that don't affect anything reliability wise. Had the thing for 12 hours and the difference in quality is night and day.
@@user-nw5oc8pl5m I have the 3drap mod with both sequential and h pattern. It's expensive for what it is so if you know someone with a 3d printer it's probably much cheaper to ask them to print stuff and buy a few screws. I've stopped using the h pattern since it stiffens the shifter which causes my kinda flimsy wheel stand to move too much when shifting. I still use the sequential mod though. That's great. Just remember to remap your buttons in game.
@@gabrocki As long as you’re in PC then any shifter will work with any wheel because all shifters ( except for the Logitech ) can be used as an usb device ( you can buy an adapter for the Logitech shifter to use as an standalone device ). It’s also possible in console through the use of a device called DriveHub which is a bit expensive
I've had my system 3 days and it's amazing ..I bought it 2nd hand and it's the best I've played compared to the real thing it's pretty much the same apart from its easier to drive ..alot complain about slowing down and alot don't actually use the clutch as a second brake for lowering revs and gears quicker lol American kids can't drive stick
I agree 100%. The first thing anyone who's driven with a stick shift in real life will notice is how sloppy it feels. It's so hard to feel when you're in the right gear, and thus a lot of misshifts accure. The only good thing about it is it's better than using the paddles on the wheel, but not much.
I've completely swapped out the shift knob with a heavy metal knob and it feels wayyyy better - I hated the light stock knob so much, especially the grey plastic top that you said keeps stickin out
Lots of mods out there for the driving Force Shifter like custom Sim Shop H-pattern improvement Spring Clixbeetle-GX & 3DRap mod Cambio V2 & V3.5 gated
you dont need any buttons on the shifter since the newer wheels have a lot of buttons already, and i know its an older design, but it looks a lot more tacky with all those buttons.
2:20 what I did was sanding the paint of that part and then I painted the lines in black, so it remains with a white finish that seems more realistic and less plastic
Coming from someone who’s only had it, there’s no problem with it. Its basically 0 force feedback vibes but its nice and DONT plan on upgrading it anytime soon
only one thing bothers me throughout the video is the fact that youre using a Thrustmaster like 600$ wheel with pedals and the Thrustmaster hand brake and then the Logitech Driving Force shifter just chills there like a rank 1 in a lobby full of rank 55s in COD Black Ops 3
I'm watching this deciding if I want to buy a wheel in a bundle with a shifter. and you convinced me to wait on the shifter also nice to see that you're also playing WRC
Totally agree. I have the same reverse recognition problem. Also agree on the toy feel. Once you have driven a real 5 speed, this is totally annoying due to a lack of resistance or feel like a real transmission. It also has a tendency to go from fifth to second and second to fifth if you let it go where it wants naturally. Having an actual gate to shift through would help this significantly.
I bought one of those Aliexpress Shifters for 40€ and its rly dope. Nice clacking and tactical shifting and it features 8 gears which is pretty neat when you are playing games like forza horizon.
The shitter is very nice. I purchased it, I drive a 2006 Honda City so the shitter feels very small and way too "easy" to shit. Whenever I have long nights of sim racing I have to remind myself the next time I use my car to actually put more strength and effort into moving it. Same goes for the wheel actually, it is quiet smaller than a real wheel. But oh well, it does the job its designed to do and it does it well without breaking so I am overall very happy with it. Also yes I purposely used shitter instead of shifter
I have seen so many review saying it felt cheap so when I got it I was expecting it to feel cheaper bit I was pleased with how it functions. But extra buttons would have been cool.
I have a Logitech wheel and thought I could get a cheap usb shifter but realized it's for PC only. I can't get a thrustmaster so I customized the Logitech shifter. And put a stiffener along with a nice looking knob!
my G27 shifter stopped recognizing reverse entirely, bought a TH8A and repurposed the G27 shifter as a handbrake using a rubber band, have the full Thrustmaster setup now with the exception of the G27 shifter, I don't want to lose those extra buttons and it still works really well as a handbrake, would love to try to make an analog handbrake fit in the casing but don't think it's possible to do so
with the reverse gear i found that once i used the shifter for a pretty long time and the plastics and mechanisms have worn in, i see that when someone else is using the shifter they have a very hard time shifting into any gear. the best comment i got is that "it shifts like an old truck". But i have no problem with shifting.
It's great for the price. Everybody needs to be realistic here because it's a video game accessory. If you want unmatched realistic shifting then go learn a real standard transmission. Otherwise, pop the knob off, pull the boot up and do the hair tie or rubber band mods for a "heavier" shift.
If you have a 3d printer you can make it much better (Also if you take the plastic top off and bend one of the prongs slightly in it will make it sturdy
I have the reverse problem a ton too, I typically just use the paddles if I can when going down. my plastic tab on the top broke off as well, it popped off and I stood on it when I was getting up to look for it.
You can go to a local car shop and buy a new shift nob to attach instead of ball making it more comfortable and realistic. Also adding an ascetically pleasing effect to the setup.
Man, I'm with you on the reverse. I put it into 6th all the time when I want reverse, it's definitely not just you, and thanks to your video I now know it's not just me...
I just picked mine up about a weeks gap and thought my shifter was broken for reverse as it took min 2 tries before it actually went. Glad to see it’s not just a broken product however still not very impressive
I've never mistaken 6th for reverse, but it's certainly slow. The toyish feel is true, but you must compare it's price to the betyer ones. If you are an H shifter fanatic you should mod this or upgrade to one better as soon as you have the budget. 7/10, for me, due to it's price.
I’ve had both, Fanatec: Expensive, cool, luxurious, Logitech: Home, it’s good, you like it, it doesn’t have weird bath controls. I love the Logitech but prefer Fanatec (ofc) but there isn’t a day where I regret selling my Fanatec to later down the line buy a Logitech. Definitely one of the best decisions I made.
I used to own a G25 with that original shifter. It was ok and the buttons were very nice. But remember that the G25 had ONLY TWO BUTTONS ON THE WHEEL! So they were absolutely needed there. The G27 had 6 wich was better. The G920 and 29 have a bit more on the wheel. Also, the shifter beeing optional, i can see why they dont want any buttons not available for everybody. Imagine being a console racer and missing out on some buttons. ;) The G25 and G27 were complete packeges. Shifters came with the wheel so console mapping was not an issue there.
Headsup for everyone wanting to buy a budget shifter... If you have the patience to wait until the end of July, Thrustmaster is putting out the TH8S for 70 bucks. It's very likely going to have a better feel than the Logitech shifter. (You can use this shifter with any wheel on PC.)
The reverse is the absolute worst, I cant even tell you how many times I've gotten dead last instead of only middle of the rank in a race cuz i couldnt reverse out a tree
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It feels like a short shifter. I understand you want long shifts for a truck sim. But I don't see why you would want to stirr a soup when playing racing games.
Faxxxx
Short shift = my best friend in vintage rally cars
@@krispyk.1786 Hell, put the H-pattern old F1 cars into the mix, a Lotus 98T with a long throw would be hell lmao
@@codemy666 ayyy I did a lap with the lotus 98t at the green hell, and it was fun 😂 my arm was so tired from overtaking and accelerating so much - but so much fun with clutch+stick+ sketchy heel toe
Same!
Personal opinion, i think it feels a bit cheap but it does what it’s supposed to do. Great for budget sim racing. 7/10
goosiest?
@@zakpowergames883 What does that illiterate foreign weirdo have to do with this?
@@jonathanisrael1707 damn
@@1nain_poli556 I literally feel like I'm watching some indian scammer when I watch his videos. If you're over 10 and are able to watch a video of his for more than 5 minutes, there's a problem.
@@jonathanisrael1707 If your above the age of 10 and say this type of shit online for no reason there's a problem.
The best part about this shifter I've seen, is that you can modify the shit out of it and make it good
what do you mean
You cant make it good
@@woooshbait2102 you can make it better than it is normally. For people that don't have the money to buy a th8a, or fanatec shifter, you can modify this shifter with rubber bands, 3D printed improvements mods that make it a stiffer shifter, sequential mods that act the exact same as a th8a sequential and many, many more. For a cheap shifter, you can have fun with it and if it breaks, oh well. They're like $60. Although I do suggest getting the TH8A if you have more
Yeah, there's a lot of mods for it, 3d printed or not, adapter from H pattern to sequential, knob adapter, actual gate etc, for 60 bucks it's... Okay, but if you ca' get it on sale, it's more than serviceable. I got mine for 40 bucks and it's holding up quite well (although moded)
@@mmmm69420 ye I modified it with a 18 speed semi truck shifter with a Jake brake
Supposedly, the mechanism, that changed from H-pattern to sequential modes was one of the first things, that broke, so that's why they dropped it in G27 shifter. And since G29 had all of the buttons on the wheel (G27 had just 6 buttons and G25 just 2), they didn't need the buttons on the shifter anymore
yeah, but it would be awesome if you had the buttons on the wheel + on the shifter. Especially when drifting if you need a button for the e-brake it's basically impossible to press. But everyone has their preferences
@@ThePilotWhoCantFly When are you getting married?
im just waiting for someone to misspell it as "shitter"
just “modded” mine to become a sequential. made it so much more satisfying to rally
@@kamillowski lmao
The gears being shirt isnt that bad. It feels like im changing gears in my mustang with a short throw shifter
Good way to flex having a Mustang🤣
@@pingu4814 Im gonna laugh my ass off if a manual Mustang REALLY feels like a G29 Shifter
"Hey guys, Chrisfix here!"
Damn, the mt82 that bad?
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3:23 honestly I feel like gears in a real car are closer together and a lot easier to miss shift, though it may be just the car I drove
I would be surprised if it really was lol. What car was it?
yeah what car was it devin
It was a simple Kia Soul, it’s probably different in sports cars
Yup it is.
@@OCRacing Is it worth buying or taking the pxn v900
My only issue is that it feels like plastic when shifting. It has no weight to it. It feels unsatisfying to run between gears. But it gets the job done so I overlook it
Get a weighted knob for it feels much less cheap
@@ViperousBoss can you link a metal knob please ?
You could try putting hair ties looped through the inside under the leather cover, it will make it a feel I little bit more realistic. Look at the reviews on Amazon, one of the first that pop up shows how to do it
Thrustmaster h patter shifter is one of best probably for the price
@@4doorsmoreguns193 that like 200 dollars compared to the Logitech shifter that’s 50
Most of these things are due to price, I don't see how going in reverse is that difficult for you, but I've got a car that uses the same mechanism so I guess I'm used to it. The shifts are WAY better short, you don't want to be shifting with a long throw in a sports car it makes shifting really slow compared to the shorter throw and is actually harder for me to miss gears when using short throw shifters. The thrustmaster shifter is about the same throw, but the leaver is longer and the shifter is gated.. and it costs twice as much..
I agree with what you said. I think the biggest problem with this shifter is simply how little force is actually required to switch gears. Totally aware that this is due to its low price and in all honestly, I don't know of any other H-pattern shifters in the market at this price point. This shifter isn't bad considering the price, I wouldn't say its necessarily good either. Its kind of just decent for the price. The title of this video makes it seem like this is a terrible product, I recognize that, but this is TH-cam and views are views lol.
@@OCRacing Do you really prefer ruining your credibility for youtube views? Doesn't misleading people ruin it for you? I'm not trying to be mean I'm genuinely trying to help
@@OCRacing This is the sort of shifter for noobs getting into sim racing or for hooning around on FH4. It's cheap, mounts fairly sturdy to a table and does the job asked of it. For someone with an xbox and a couple of racing games it's fine, when you're getting to fanatec wheels/pedals and hydraulic handbrakes ect then of course you'll want a better shifter. The fact you can buy the g923 wheel/pedals and for an extra $60 this is, like i say, great for noobs.
@@OCRacing "I recognize that, but this is TH-cam and views are views lol." having a dead channel speedrun any %
the reverse on my G27 shifter stopped recognizing reverse entirely, now it's been repurposed as a handbrake
I totally understand what you mean about the reverse and 6th. When I'm not in a rush I can easily get reverse. When in a race and need reverse quickly, you don't realise how much force and travel it takes to push down to get reverse
I think this shifter is the best starting point for anyone that wants to get into sim racing. Is it mediocre? Yes. Cheap? Absolutely. But for a beginner, it can't be beat. The best part is that you can usually find these in the used market for even less money.
I personally think it’s a good shifter for people who are just getting into sim racing
Same
I feel like this was a vent about the Logitech shifter that you hate but can't stand to pay for a more expensive one
That what I’m SAYING
All of these things can be fixed/modded. Just one example, get a custom shift knob for it, their cheap and come in a lot of sizes and shapes, that will fix the crappy plastic top and the feel of the shifts feeling too close
How do you remove the like gummy around it then?( if you want a knob)
The problem with reverse is actually well known, it seems it occurs in all versions. This is caused by micro-cracks on the circuits of that small board with two wires and a switch, which can be found at the very bottom inside of the shifter. The reason it don't react sometimes is after some number of pressing the lever down to use the reverse, it presses that button on that tiny board, and clearly it's not sturdy enough and eventually connections on that board are sometimes split/broken (there's two of these lines, leading from one of the wires to the switch and then back to the second wire.) To fix that you need to re-make these two circuits, ie. by soldering some wire instead, which will be much more sure working in such stressful conditions.
So: open the shifter, carefully remove the main shift mechanism and locate that little board somewhere under it. (it's good to hold the mechanism, to not have to waste time reassembling some parts of it when you let it split to parts.. try to find someone to hold it for that time or maybe use some clamp, like these for woodworkers) Then fix these mentioned connections on that board (don't waste your time examining how they look and trying to find the break on them. You'll probably won't, such are too small to recognize them easily, just solder wires to connect the points which are originally connected with these lines, then put it back, assemble with the mechanism and that should be it.
Wolo.. please make a video and link it here. believe me it will be watched!
this is very very interesting.
it was happened to me yesterday 😂
so i just curious and disassemble the shifter and wiggle some cable and mechanism things.
voila. its working again 🤣
@@andrievbastichy8551 I don't know why my comment constantly gets removed
@@akunkloningan4547 That's great! But if it stopped to work, then started, it can later stop again in any time. So, I made then some photoguide and could not send the image url any way, now I'll try again, in separate comment, about my new wheel. If you won't see it here somewhere, they maybe clean comments with links, or something. And in such case I don't know anymore how to send a simple picture to a person, in todays weird internets.
@@andrievbastichy8551 So, I said last time, I can't record a video of that anymore, because I don't have that shifter. I made a rig upgrade level up and moved to T300 last year. I use it with that asian no-name metal-box H-shifter from that webshop, which name starts with A and ends with S. And you people struggling with breaking tiny Logi shifter, you all should really be interested in checking what I'm talking about, if someone didn't hear about it somehow. Google or see some vid on yt, number of people there tests it, just search for asian shifter review or h-shifter [+ that webshop name, which I probably cannot mention here].
So, finally:
- G25 Logitech wheel - SHIFTER REVERSE FIX - graphic guide with a problem description and solution how-to:
pas teboard. co / pvMm5nnapThy . jpg (omit spaces)
You know what makes this shifter worlds better? A new shifter knob, i 3d printed a stick one for mine so it’s taller and it fixed all 5 of these errors, shifting feels great
I like the Shifter. It’s Basically like a Short Throw.
You can change the knob, make a diy sequential mode, make it more stiff, the reverse you can change it so its the 6th gear.
How do you make it more stiff to shift
@@jimslim268 rubber bands
And how will you shift into 6th??
I get in H Shifter mode u can but in normal mode rip
@@jimslim268 there is 3D printed stuff that make it stiffer. You can Buy them too
Sorry for seeing it late
@@RRareGaming just use the paddle on the wheel or press the knob downwards and put reverse... Since you changed the places but it still works
So i literally just bought a G29 with the shifter as my first ever wheel.
Ive never used any sim wheels aside from logitech ones before, so idk about those, but I *HAVE* owned driven plenty of real manual cars, so im comparing it mainly to my real car outside.
It feels... good enough. Yes, the reverse gear was the first thing I noticed. It hates going into reverse, also the shifter feels too light for what im used to.
Yeah the gears are very close together, but I havent had any problems with miss shifts so far, only once or twice.
Otherwise for me, it feels satisfying and realistic enough for my needs at least.
The problem with shifting into reverse may just be your unit.... I've played with the G27 and G29 shifters, and in both of the units that I played with went into reverse completely fine. I actually modded my G27 shifter by adding some velcro to the inside where the shift mechinism is that result in better feel when you shift and reduced noise of the stick hitting the walls on the inside.
Yes, everything you mention is also what happens on my shifter too. To conclude: The shifter is and feels extremely cheap but it does the job (most of the times)
Can you do neutral braking in sim racing games? Or just downshifting?
You can do both. Depending on the car
I completely agree with you. The feel is so discouraging. I literally drive a manual in real life and the feel between gears make me go to neutral every time I play GT6. I finally upgraded to the Fanatec GT DD Pro with load cell pedal and Fanatec 7 speed shifter in preparation for GT7. I hate this shifter with a passion.
having buttons and a sequential mode would have been really cool for sure. no clue why they thought removing the buttons and stuff was a good idea. I have to agree about the plastic bit on the knob, after a handful of sessions with it, it started moving around and popping up like yours. I got used to the reverse gear, it became easier once i got a frame for my rig and wasnt afraid to push on stuff. and yeah it is pretty toy-like. i like how easy it is to push into gear (i practically just slap the thing forward to go 4th-3rd). but yeah, having a nice clunk feeling would complete it. But the price tho! considering a thrustmaster shifter is like $170 and all you get extra is sequential mode and a 7th gear (dont know if it feels any better, I would hope but i havent tried it), logitech prob doesnt see a reason to make the shifter better or cheaper. good to know other people have some of the same gripes as I do.
Is it worth buying or taking the pxn v900
@@AhmedSaleh-ii6ng Dont buy pxn v900 or v9 its a piece of **** it has no force feedback and for 100 and 230 its not worth it Buy something like t150 pro or g29/g920
the buttons are on the wheel now when they weren't on the g25 or g27, but it makes it even more baffling how this isn't included since it was on on oder wheels
For the reverse gear problem, all you need to do is buy an aftermarket shift knob that is taller than the original shift knob, there problem solved!
But if you buy new one, when you remove the old knob, do you remove the black gummy as well? Bc I think it’s ugly. Can you remove it ?
@@user-nw5oc8pl5m Yes, to my knowledge, Removing it will not impact its functionality, although dirt can enter it more easily, reducing its service life.
I totally agree. Especially with point #2, me being a rallying snob, and currently learning pace notes fully, it is INCREDIBLY annoying when I just rev my engine and don't go anywhere. (ps, I would definitely recommend getting an aftermarket shifter knob) (oh and double ps, preferably get a shorter shifter knob, because the shorter, the more force it takes to get it into gear. And that's definitely a plus with this shifter).
Oh and, try taking off the leather wrap around the stick, It's way more... well just nicer in general.
@@TheSapier So many P.S's I can't keep up D:
@@OCRacing I am the master of P.S's!
you can also buy a spring mod from 3Drap it makes it take about twice as much effort to shift.
Can I conne this Logitech shifter with another wheel? No g29 wheel but like a Ferrari g440 wheel?
The gloves while driving a sim cracks me up 🤣
Regardless, enjoyed the video. Nice job 👍🏼
why?
This is kinda nitpicking.
#5 - In countries like the UK, the shifter literally comes as a free gift with the wheel.
#4 - Those buttons come on the wheel. Logitech probably thought there's no sense in having 2 sets of the same buttons.
#3 and #1 are the same point. If it weren't plastic it would end up costing more.
#2 - I always just moved it to neutral and then hit the left paddle to reverse. Much easier.
as someone getting into simulators, the worst part about the shifter is the connector. I got my shifter as a impulse purchase when it was on a special and I had no idea that I would need to pay so much more for an adaptor or even a new wheel
My rx8 has the exact shifter layout having 6 speeds and having to push the shifter down, right and back for reverse lol
I’ve heard it’s not too uncommon.
2:38 i thought i was the only one with this problem lol
When I owned a g27 I tried a handful of mods, none of them really made me happy. Aftermarket shift knobs make it much heavier, and then the shifter feels sloppy as you are able to easily overpower the detent bearings (these let you feel a click of resistance between gears). For the price I can't put it down too much, but I see it as a stepping stone for someone new to sim racing that isn't ready to pay $2-300 for a shifter alone
That reverse issue you talked about, I had the exact same issue. Pissed me off so much I bought a new one thinking mine was broken. So far I'm surprisingly not having the same issue on the new shifter. Glad I wasn't the only one having that issue
I want to try this shift and wheel so I can learn better with driving cars and then I won't be nervous while taking car exams
Just take driving lessons man, driving a real car is a lot different from games. Or practice in a real car, you get the hang of it pretty quick
Fun Fact the shifter wasn’t downgraded it was just changed because the past wheels had no other buttons or Dpad but I do agree on this beacuse there is no more option to make it a up and down shifter and a H pattern shifter.
I still wish it had some extra programmable buttons but it’s most likely due to it being marketed for consoles aswell. Where tf did sequential go though
2:03 I think It would be kinda cool. I dunno
Kinda glad I still have the g25 shifter with all the buttons and siquentual shift switch
I bought my g920 just over a year ago for £200 brand new with the shifter included. I bought an adapter and a deep dish wheel from ebay for £20 and it was probably the best thing I've ever bought.
And as for my shifter, I've never had any issues with it so far in terms of shifting or getting into reverse. I'm really surprised that it hasn't broken yet considering I absolutely abuse it on a daily basis.
You mean like a mod for the shifter?
@@milku2481 you talking about the adapter? That's for the steering wheel I put on it, the logitech steering wheel bolt holes don't fit a regular steering wheel.
@@user-bx1dw4hl7m ahah my bad, didn’t understand that deep dish part at first
Personal experience, first time i tried it, i was impressed how poor the materials are. You have to be really careful while changing gears to not break the shifter due to its short gear design. It feels like im shifting a toy car.
These things last a year at most. My second one just started hitting the shitter so I spent the money on the TH8A from Thrust master.
It's a longer throw, but has a sequential and 7 speed manual. It uses magnetic hall effect sensors which means that the only moving part is the stick itself, and there are no moving internal parts to wear down. It's genuinely made out of 99%, the only exception being trim pieces that don't affect anything reliability wise. Had the thing for 12 hours and the difference in quality is night and day.
I've just modded mine. Gotta say it was pretty easy to do and seems to be a pretty good improvement that targets some of the key issues.
Hey, how to nodded for PlayStation 5?
@@kingofkings89pl modding the shifter doesn't change depending on the device since it's not software. It's changing/adding parts.
@@neblolthecarnerdwhat did you mod?
@@user-nw5oc8pl5m I have the 3drap mod with both sequential and h pattern. It's expensive for what it is so if you know someone with a 3d printer it's probably much cheaper to ask them to print stuff and buy a few screws.
I've stopped using the h pattern since it stiffens the shifter which causes my kinda flimsy wheel stand to move too much when shifting. I still use the sequential mod though. That's great. Just remember to remap your buttons in game.
Thank you brother I was planning on getting one but I’ll do my research to see which is best
Tell me what you get I just orders the g920
@@turky4551 its good for its price if you want a actually good shifter they cost as much as the g920 so just buy the logitech one its worth it
Beware that no other shifter is compaible with the G29/920, at least as far as I know.
@@gabrocki As long as you’re in PC then any shifter will work with any wheel because all shifters ( except for the Logitech ) can be used as an usb device ( you can buy an adapter for the Logitech shifter to use as an standalone device ). It’s also possible in console through the use of a device called DriveHub which is a bit expensive
I've had my system 3 days and it's amazing ..I bought it 2nd hand and it's the best I've played compared to the real thing it's pretty much the same apart from its easier to drive ..alot complain about slowing down and alot don't actually use the clutch as a second brake for lowering revs and gears quicker lol American kids can't drive stick
For my truly honest opinion, I really do like this shifter. It does the job very well and makes the experience very satisfying for me.
I agree 100%. The first thing anyone who's driven with a stick shift in real life will notice is how sloppy it feels. It's so hard to feel when you're in the right gear, and thus a lot of misshifts accure. The only good thing about it is it's better than using the paddles on the wheel, but not much.
The only issue I have with it is that I can't get into reverse but other than that its great!
Check my comment somewhere here above, it's moderately easy to make it back to work and I described how
I honestly like the short-throw shifter feel
My dad tried it and said it felt just like his Audi TT’s shifter
The problem with the reverse gear is not only for you, its for mine too
I always downshift into 2nd gear everytime when I wanna downshift into 4th gear lol
To downshift to 4 u just need to pull the stick back, no need to pull to center
hi, g29 vs thrustmaster with similar price tier? which one is better for beginner?
Depends on the exact model, I’ve heard that the Thrustmaster T300 is superior to the Logitech G29 at only a little more $
Get the TM dude
I've completely swapped out the shift knob with a heavy metal knob and it feels wayyyy better - I hated the light stock knob so much, especially the grey plastic top that you said keeps stickin out
Lots of mods out there for the driving Force Shifter like custom Sim Shop H-pattern improvement Spring Clixbeetle-GX & 3DRap mod Cambio V2 & V3.5 gated
Number 1 but a mod it makes it so much better
You can get it as a bundle in the UK at least
In Germany too
In Malaysia too
In the U.S you can just uhh. buy them both in the same store
if u put hair bobbles on the shifter it feels way more realistic like in between the locking knobs and over the shifter it feels a bit better
when i first got the shifter, i agreed with all of those. but when i began to use it daily, i loved it and i can’t stop using it
you dont need any buttons on the shifter since the newer wheels have a lot of buttons already, and i know its an older design, but it looks a lot more tacky with all those buttons.
I mean it's a shifter. That's it, there is no reason to have the same amount of buttons on it as a nuclear power plant control room
Exactly
2:20 what I did was sanding the paint of that part and then I painted the lines in black, so it remains with a white finish that seems more realistic and less plastic
I bolted a skate wheel I got for Christmas as the shift knob and I've loved it so much omg
He said it feels like a toy🤦♀️ it is a toy also it’s 60 bucks so it’s not gonna be perfect
The TH8A, and fanatec shifter is also a “toy” and feels way better. I own a TH8A myself and it feels real.
Well its supossed to feel real but it is 50 dollars. I dont like the plastic but you can fix it
0:41 Logitech shifter with thrustmaster wheel, Hol'up a moment, that's illegal
Coming from someone who’s only had it, there’s no problem with it. Its basically 0 force feedback vibes but its nice and DONT plan on upgrading it anytime soon
3:00 i had pretty much the same problem, just turn the shifter 180 degrees and remap the buttons. its so much easier if reverse is under 1st gear
It feels like my 08 Honda Fit. It’s great
As a person who never had any other stick shifter, I completely agree, especially with the reverse gear one.
I am glad to see I am not the only one who uses my biking gloves as driving gloves. :)
only one thing bothers me throughout the video is the fact that youre using a Thrustmaster like 600$ wheel with pedals and the Thrustmaster hand brake and then the Logitech Driving Force shifter just chills there like a rank 1 in a lobby full of rank 55s in COD Black Ops 3
I'm watching this deciding if I want to buy a wheel in a bundle with a shifter. and you convinced me to wait on the shifter
also nice to see that you're also playing WRC
It reminds me of a shifter I had in an older Audi I used to have. A6 I think it was. I loves that shifter.
idk, as a person who had a 1995 eclipse where I had a short shifter, and had to put it in reverse the same way as this shifter.... I like it lol
Totally agree. I have the same reverse recognition problem. Also agree on the toy feel. Once you have driven a real 5 speed, this is totally annoying due to a lack of resistance or feel like a real transmission. It also has a tendency to go from fifth to second and second to fifth if you let it go where it wants naturally. Having an actual gate to shift through would help this significantly.
2:55 Yes, I also always miss the Reverse 😅
I bought one of those Aliexpress Shifters for 40€ and its rly dope. Nice clacking and tactical shifting and it features 8 gears which is pretty neat when you are playing games like forza horizon.
The shitter is very nice. I purchased it, I drive a 2006 Honda City so the shitter feels very small and way too "easy" to shit. Whenever I have long nights of sim racing I have to remind myself the next time I use my car to actually put more strength and effort into moving it. Same goes for the wheel actually, it is quiet smaller than a real wheel. But oh well, it does the job its designed to do and it does it well without breaking so I am overall very happy with it. Also yes I purposely used shitter instead of shifter
I have seen so many review saying it felt cheap so when I got it I was expecting it to feel cheaper bit I was pleased with how it functions. But extra buttons would have been cool.
I have a Logitech wheel and thought I could get a cheap usb shifter but realized it's for PC only. I can't get a thrustmaster so I customized the Logitech shifter. And put a stiffener along with a nice looking knob!
what i had no idea you could do reverse thank you so much
my G27 shifter stopped recognizing reverse entirely, bought a TH8A and repurposed the G27 shifter as a handbrake using a rubber band, have the full Thrustmaster setup now with the exception of the G27 shifter, I don't want to lose those extra buttons and it still works really well as a handbrake, would love to try to make an analog handbrake fit in the casing but don't think it's possible to do so
Yea man I understand the reverse issue. It’s the same for me. And I just don’t use the plastic piece on top
with the reverse gear i found that once i used the shifter for a pretty long time and the plastics and mechanisms have worn in, i see that when someone else is using the shifter they have a very hard time shifting into any gear. the best comment i got is that "it shifts like an old truck". But i have no problem with shifting.
It's great for the price. Everybody needs to be realistic here because it's a video game accessory. If you want unmatched realistic shifting then go learn a real standard transmission. Otherwise, pop the knob off, pull the boot up and do the hair tie or rubber band mods for a "heavier" shift.
If you have a 3d printer you can make it much better
(Also if you take the plastic top off and bend one of the prongs slightly in it will make it sturdy
I have the reverse problem a ton too, I typically just use the paddles if I can when going down. my plastic tab on the top broke off as well, it popped off and I stood on it when I was getting up to look for it.
You can go to a local car shop and buy a new shift nob to attach instead of ball making it more comfortable and realistic. Also adding an ascetically pleasing effect to the setup.
Man, I'm with you on the reverse. I put it into 6th all the time when I want reverse, it's definitely not just you, and thanks to your video I now know it's not just me...
Your just not pushing down hard enough b4 you shift into reverse
change the spring that holds the metal ball to a more stiffer one. gives awesome feeling
the reverse bit is really relatable it always put me in sixth
u Can revurse: pres down the shifter and get to 6 th gear
I just picked mine up about a weeks gap and thought my shifter was broken for reverse as it took min 2 tries before it actually went. Glad to see it’s not just a broken product however still not very impressive
I've never mistaken 6th for reverse, but it's certainly slow. The toyish feel is true, but you must compare it's price to the betyer ones. If you are an H shifter fanatic you should mod this or upgrade to one better as soon as you have the budget. 7/10, for me, due to it's price.
I’ve had both,
Fanatec: Expensive, cool, luxurious,
Logitech: Home, it’s good, you like it, it doesn’t have weird bath controls.
I love the Logitech but prefer Fanatec (ofc) but there isn’t a day where I regret selling my Fanatec to later down the line buy a Logitech.
Definitely one of the best decisions I made.
short throw really shouldn't be a complaint for realism, try a STI in a dealership and you will find it very familer
Buy those extended bolts hex long enough and put a bunch of rubber bands on them from each hex bolt to the stick shift. Will feel like the real thing
Best thing you can do is buy the g25 shifter in second hand and buy the cable to use it independently
I used to own a G25 with that original shifter. It was ok and the buttons were very nice. But remember that the G25 had ONLY TWO BUTTONS ON THE WHEEL! So they were absolutely needed there. The G27 had 6 wich was better. The G920 and 29 have a bit more on the wheel. Also, the shifter beeing optional, i can see why they dont want any buttons not available for everybody. Imagine being a console racer and missing out on some buttons. ;)
The G25 and G27 were complete packeges. Shifters came with the wheel so console mapping was not an issue there.
Headsup for everyone wanting to buy a budget shifter... If you have the patience to wait until the end of July, Thrustmaster is putting out the TH8S for 70 bucks. It's very likely going to have a better feel than the Logitech shifter. (You can use this shifter with any wheel on PC.)
agree 100%. I picked one up with a 2nd hand wheel and the cap was already missing
The reverse is the absolute worst, I cant even tell you how many times I've gotten dead last instead of only middle of the rank in a race cuz i couldnt reverse out a tree
really wanted to love it. but miss shifting happened to often, and you had to pay extra attention.