the word "rush" is important here. This early in the game, there are no lairs, no mutalisks, no spires, and, therefore, no gaurdians. The point of this move is to surprise the enemy early on. However, if they are reasonably prepared, the rush is beaten.
agreed. Starcraft players tend to be troublemakers most of the time, prbly a reason why I don't play much anymore. It almost seems like only pros are allowed in anymore. At least on BroodWar newbies won't get banned from every game they join, though, like on Classic
I know its an old vid (so he's probably better than that now), but for the new people watching, the initial split shouldn't be done that way. By doing a proper split, you can give yourself a slight advantage by getting your lings out a few seconds earlier. There's a few videos up on how to do a proper split.
That, and he wasted time sending them off to the minerals one at a time. Drones, Probes, or SCVs, depending on the race you play as, sending them all off at once saves time IMO.
Has anyone else here pulled the several hour strategy of building the best defense you can over a couple of small bases and having a small fleet to attack your opponents lone units costing them minerals then retreating? Eventually the map runs out of minerals and you've hardly spent any so you have a lot left over. n.n It's awesome. Just takes forever.
I always thought 4 pool was never enough. 5 pool makes it faster to bring out the zerglings and if done correctly, wil have a better economy. 4 pool, when you make your s.p., leaves you with 3 mining. 5 pool leaves you with 4 and plenty to fall back on. once you got 2 more drones mining and make ur 3 zergling eggs at 6 than an overlord as soon as possible. its much more common sense than having 3 than making 3 more drones. plus, it doesn't leave you as open as if an initial 4 pool rush fails.
Computer of course! 1)Comps follow and order of Hatchery, spawn, and attack with worker only when the worker is being attacked. 2)If this was a human He'd be somwhat rtarded!
Oh, so you think it is 4 times faster? It's just a some bug in the video editor that they have normal voices and they move in regular speed? This is the most fatal attack to enemy economy in the early game, but all the people complaining about that its unfair, just counter some ling rushes and you know they are not that bad. The easiest way to counter them is terran wall or protoss zealot in a ramp. And on Zerg just do the same, and with good micro, you can charge the enemy base and do some dmg.
players opponent had to attack those zerglings with his drones, he would crush them with few drones lost, then he would continue playing with mineral advantage
Yeah you gotta scout the 4 pool zergling rush early or go 8 barracks to really counter it. Blocking your choke with scvs works really nice too until you can get that 1 marine and bunker to protect
Zergling rush was really awesome!! XD When this strategy first came out no one wants to play with me and it got to the point when the owner of the computer cafe banned the use of that tactic XD
very easy to do but if u fail ur f'ed 5/6/7 drone then rush is more popular cuz there is then a gray zone the success rate depends more on the skill of the opposing player actually
clicking and right clicking for drones one at a time is very inefficient. instead, select them all, right click on one mineral patch, and while they are moving deselect one and repeat, or split them into 2 groups while moving; when only 2 workers reach a mineral patch one will automatically select another mineral patch.
Oh BTW wouldnt it best if he annihilated all of the harvesters first? It looked like the 2nd player never wanted to give a good fight coz if it was me i would have kill off the harvesters 1st.
actually, if you make 2 drones during that time, you end up making your zerglings later, thus leaving yourself vulnerable. It's best to only make one, and as you can see, the player was still productive in town while rushing with the cheap zerglings.
this work pretty sweet against newbs, usually they quit as soon as they see the first zergling appearing in their base. But against experienced players it usually fails, especially terrans due to lift up and fast to build marines
yeah, altough last time I played was this summer. I remember getting banned in about 3 games out of 4, and half of the ones I didn't got banned from someone left 10 second after game started
lmao. this is called the 4 pool. there's a reason why he doesn't make any more drones. its supposed to be a very fast rush, making zerglings as fast as it is possible. and no, u can't make 20 zerglings in 2 minutes from the game start time
all u need is to send all 4 drones to the enemys base and work it out from there. 4 drone attack!! make one more with the 50 mineral left. Then u will take 2 hours to use the last drone to kill the last structure.
some tournament maps have only two spawns, like destination or blue storm. zerg arent nub. they arent op in any way, shape, or form. if there's anything that was nub, its just that it was a computer player, and that it was a four pool, which most players only do if they dont care if they win. if the zerg had whipped up a fast sunken instead of the hatch, the six lings would have fell prey to the sunken and a few drones. four pool is a lot harder to pull off against terran with their buff peons.
Agreed, but it doesn't mean that everyone has to bash the hell out of him. I've seen even worse noobs forget to get upgrades, leave bad defenses for their base, create structures in the worst spots etc., the list goes on.
he never said what kind of map he played, i think he's talking about "fastest possible maps" i play them sometimes and yes, u can do rush of 15 marines, 48 zerglings or 8 zealots in 15 minutes if u know how :/
Dude what the heck... why would you stop producing drones this fast?! I think Zerg should get at least 10 drones THEN start the Spawning Pool. But I am SURE that you do not start the spawning pool at 4 drones... I play Terran, it's 8 supply then depot, 10 supply then rax. I never stop building SCVs until I have at least 24 of them (expansion expansion!)
no it works against real people too. It only works with newbs though, with some rare exceptions. For perfect zerg rush against a pro your entire team must rush the same opponent at once with their 2 minutes zerglings (6 per teamate)
Yeah it is a computer. A) You can tell by Computers building order. B)At the ending you can see it said computer 2 was defeated C) No way a human player wont counter with that many drones D)Who builds another hatchery at main base?
Ooooooh okay. Thanks :| Does this work against real players? I mean hey, by the time the lings reach the other player's base they should have at least 10 workers and possibly take the lings out?
well 4 pools dont usuually work on humans, unless they r noobs. he was demostrating, so i dont know if you actually have a point here, or if ur just saying that because thats what all the other comment say.
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the word "rush" is important here. This early in the game, there are no lairs, no mutalisks, no spires, and, therefore, no gaurdians. The point of this move is to surprise the enemy early on. However, if they are reasonably prepared, the rush is beaten.
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i am 124 years old, and i still watching this :)
124 years!!, no sis U still young
enjoy!!
Its by far the best RTS iv ever played u cant beat that gameplay!!
By far, the enemy was weak, at least
I did this opening all the time when I was in fourth grade. That's all I have to say about that.
My classmate in high school destroyed us with this lol.
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Why did you bring me back to this comment I made 12 years ago
@@DippNDots gotta bring back the memories
@@mikekell920those were the days when StarCraft was the cool new thing.
it works, u just need uber micro, and either keep pumping lings or back them up with drones.
or if they were expecting it, then u're screwed.
This looks like something the legendary Baldure(EP) would use!
Wow a recent comment
Protoss was my go to back in my HS days. Would always wall the opening to the base with a gateway and cannons and go straight for carrier rush.
agreed. Starcraft players tend to be troublemakers most of the time, prbly a reason why I don't play much anymore. It almost seems like only pros are allowed in anymore. At least on BroodWar newbies won't get banned from every game they join, though, like on Classic
Lmao all these angry kids who have been pwned by 6 zergs are not happy
lol i keep clicking on the bottom map only to realize that i can only pause the video -_-
Whoa did Zerg always start with four drones I thought it was 3?
I know its an old vid (so he's probably better than that now), but for the new people watching, the initial split shouldn't be done that way. By doing a proper split, you can give yourself a slight advantage by getting your lings out a few seconds earlier. There's a few videos up on how to do a proper split.
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That, and he wasted time sending them off to the minerals one at a time.
Drones, Probes, or SCVs, depending on the race you play as, sending them all off at once saves time IMO.
Has anyone else here pulled the several hour strategy of building the best defense you can over a couple of small bases and having a small fleet to attack your opponents lone units costing them minerals then retreating? Eventually the map runs out of minerals and you've hardly spent any so you have a lot left over. n.n It's awesome. Just takes forever.
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I love playing red Zerg.
Lol I love the sound of ovies in this game. "beeergargeeee!"
wow you rushed a computer. you are so good. the computer didnt even use his workers to attack.....
I dunno, I never had problems sending them all off at once.
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i think he did that so he could rush, if he started to build drones first he wouldn't have been fast enough
I always thought 4 pool was never enough. 5 pool makes it faster to bring out the zerglings and if done correctly, wil have a better economy. 4 pool, when you make your s.p., leaves you with 3 mining. 5 pool leaves you with 4 and plenty to fall back on. once you got 2 more drones mining and make ur 3 zergling eggs at 6 than an overlord as soon as possible. its much more common sense than having 3 than making 3 more drones. plus, it doesn't leave you as open as if an initial 4 pool rush fails.
he probably could have achieved the 6 lings like 10 seconds earlier if he more control of the drones from the start
Computer of course!
1)Comps follow and order of Hatchery, spawn, and attack with worker only when the worker is being attacked.
2)If this was a human He'd be somwhat rtarded!
Oh, so you think it is 4 times faster? It's just a some bug in the video editor that they have normal voices and they move in regular speed? This is the most fatal attack to enemy economy in the early game, but all the people complaining about that its unfair, just counter some ling rushes and you know they are not that bad. The easiest way to counter them is terran wall or protoss zealot in a ramp. And on Zerg just do the same, and with good micro, you can charge the enemy base and do some dmg.
a fine rush, were u playing computer?
@manstie was the korean guy the 4 pool? cuz then i def believe it
players opponent had to attack those zerglings with his drones, he would crush them with few drones lost, then he would continue playing with mineral advantage
Yeah you gotta scout the 4 pool zergling rush early or go 8 barracks to really counter it. Blocking your choke with scvs works really nice too until you can get that 1 marine and bunker to protect
True
Zergling rush was really awesome!! XD
When this strategy first came out no one wants to play with me and it got to the point when the owner of the computer cafe banned the use of that tactic XD
very easy to do but if u fail ur f'ed
5/6/7 drone then rush is more popular cuz there is then a gray zone
the success rate depends more on the skill of the opposing player actually
clicking and right clicking for drones one at a time is very inefficient. instead, select them all, right click on one mineral patch, and while they are moving deselect one and repeat, or split them into 2 groups while moving; when only 2 workers reach a mineral patch one will automatically select another mineral patch.
good timing, btw what program did u use 2 film it
I love when zerg has red color x.x
how do you put your games top video like that?
Actually, there are many (several thousands too many) people that communicate with all caps. Just look at any Interweb flame war.
Oh BTW wouldnt it best if he annihilated all of the harvesters first? It looked like the 2nd player never wanted to give a good fight coz if it was me i would have kill off the harvesters 1st.
actually, if you make 2 drones during that time, you end up making your zerglings later, thus leaving yourself vulnerable. It's best to only make one, and as you can see, the player was still productive in town while rushing with the cheap zerglings.
thats why i said "no one made u watch the damn thing" so obviously I wasn't against it.
i totally agree, which must mean BGCommando is one.
who on earth builds more drones after a 4 pool?
how did u record this?
what program?
Self-contradiction is quite common with trolls.
this work pretty sweet against newbs, usually they quit as soon as they see the first zergling appearing in their base. But against experienced players it usually fails, especially terrans due to lift up and fast to build marines
yeah, altough last time I played was this summer. I remember getting banned in about 3 games out of 4, and half of the ones I didn't got banned from someone left 10 second after game started
I used this strat on a money game way back when I was In grade school.
Zegling rush works best against Protoss players.
Except if they built cannons in the back.
lmao. this is called the 4 pool. there's a reason why he doesn't make any more drones. its supposed to be a very fast rush, making zerglings as fast as it is possible. and no, u can't make 20 zerglings in 2 minutes from the game start time
all u need is to send all 4 drones to the enemys base and work it out from there. 4 drone attack!! make one more with the 50 mineral left. Then u will take 2 hours to use the last drone to kill the last structure.
hm, yeah.. kinda slow ^^ i thought it would be faster
why the computer doesnt defend with drones?
How do you stop it?
dude have u tried playing koreans? ive seen a 5 min carrier rush. this might work but idk
That was against AI.
However this video wasn`t supposed to be skilled but it showed how to rush.
wth are the drones doing?
Epic split
what does split mean?
i don't think u needed the drone u made
how can u build 3 zealots in 90s? zealot build time is 40s not to mention pylon and gateway
only worked cuz he was going for another hatchery from the start
its a simple map
he knew where the enemy was when he found out where he was
no luck
some tournament maps have only two spawns, like destination or blue storm.
zerg arent nub. they arent op in any way, shape, or form.
if there's anything that was nub, its just that it was a computer player, and that it was a four pool, which most players only do if they dont care if they win. if the zerg had whipped up a fast sunken instead of the hatch, the six lings would have fell prey to the sunken and a few drones. four pool is a lot harder to pull off against terran with their buff peons.
Is this hard to pull off or do you just need to know what to do.
im just as noob so... he used his 4th food to build the pool. if he built max drones then build pool it would be 9 pool (more common and viable build)
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Agreed, but it doesn't mean that everyone has to bash the hell out of him. I've seen even worse noobs forget to get upgrades, leave bad defenses for their base, create structures in the worst spots etc., the list goes on.
O.o actually learned something
how did you record that?
4 pool is an all or nothing attack, if thwarted you are really behind in your economy.
i think it was a comp
@MorePlz2
thats a lie.
there was that super chinese korean tournament where this pr0 guy got 4pooled and lost
congrats man.
u 4 pooled a 12 hatch against the computer
wuts 4 pool im kinda noobish
rofl, he went against a computer.
he never said what kind of map he played, i think he's talking about "fastest possible maps" i play them sometimes and yes, u can do rush of 15 marines, 48 zerglings or 8 zealots in 15 minutes if u know how :/
riiiight...i'm just looking at that argument and i lul'd. since when was mexican an insult? or am i just really slow? :D
Here because of remastered, nice executing
Woow even comments are dusty. Hello from 2024 already.
Then what do YOU play?
"Testosterone Bloodbath 3"?
I'm saying it in Protoss language: fingottam a röhögéstől, miután megnéztem ezt a videót :D
So Protoss speak Magyar? Nice.
Dude what the heck... why would you stop producing drones this fast?! I think Zerg should get at least 10 drones THEN start the Spawning Pool. But I am SURE that you do not start the spawning pool at 4 drones... I play Terran, it's 8 supply then depot, 10 supply then rax. I never stop building SCVs until I have at least 24 of them (expansion expansion!)
wow. congratz. u beat a comp.
also if he was good that might help too
yea my bad, i was half sleep, that 15 minutes should be 3 haha :p
well that is the point of cheesing you know...
nice! 2 is comming out
This is so much a Cheese.....
if this fails he's more then likely to lose the battle
split was gosu
no it works against real people too. It only works with newbs though, with some rare exceptions. For perfect zerg rush against a pro your entire team must rush the same opponent at once with their 2 minutes zerglings (6 per teamate)
4 pools? wtf? y 4 spawning pools?
Yeah it is a computer.
A) You can tell by Computers building order.
B)At the ending you can see it said computer 2 was defeated
C) No way a human player wont counter with that many drones
D)Who builds another hatchery at main base?
haha... bit shocking to realize this is SC not SC2 video xD Classic!
Look how far we got 7 years later. Hehehehh
what sense does that make? lol
it's THE most skilled game ever created, literally. Some people actually like challenging games^_^
it's supposed to be exactly 1 minute 30seconds and it's called a zerg rush. kills any other race at a 80% chance xD
It's not very hard to do that. You should learn to make a split by sending ALL your Drones to one mineral, then separating them on the move.
Too easy with zling rush... and what that split means? :P
Ooooooh okay. Thanks :|
Does this work against real players? I mean hey, by the time the lings reach the other player's base they should have at least 10 workers and possibly take the lings out?
ha, what a simple strategy. I prefer two darktemplar rush within 4 minutes.
well 4 pools dont usuually work on humans, unless they r noobs. he was demostrating, so i dont know if you actually have a point here, or if ur just saying that because thats what all the other comment say.