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One small hang up with the way you explain your final theory - I tend to think that Gaster is the one who created the prophecy and told ralsei in the first place. Ralsei says the prophecy came from "time and space" and to my knowledge I think gaster's backstory is the only other place in UT/DR that time and space is mentioned.
Ralsei seems to know in some moments about the player existence or that he is in a game. So it's possible that Gaster told to him. The problem with this theory is that Spamton and Jevil seem to have talked with Gaster, and they both became insane. Ralsei would be the only exception.
And with Gaster being associated with the devil/666 it fits thematically for him to want to banish the angel's heaven. The confusing part is, is the roaring connected to the angel's heaven? The dark fountains are called "holy" at times, but then there's what Jevil is saying which makes it sound like the roaring comes from "hell". @pedrobomal There's been some fun theories in the fandom regarding that. What personally intrigues me is if there is an in-universe explanation as to why castle town is named after the player by chapter 2. Ralsei is like the owner of the place so it could've been him, but at the same time the only one who should know of the players name is Gaster.
That's a good point. I suspected Gaster (assuming my theory is correct lol) tried the same routine on Ralsei that he used on Jevil and Spamton, but I assumed the prophecy came from Ralsei. But know that you pointed it out, I'm wondering how Ralsei know about this prophecy except from an outside source?
@TheSoph1234 Part of me wants to say that Hometown itself is the Angel's Heaven, because it's a world where the Undertale cast can live peacefully, but that doesn't quite sit right with me because of how many of the fandom's desires are thwarted. You'd expect HT to have more fan wish fulfilment if that were the case. Still, that's assuming that the fans/player are the Angel, which is far from certain. Maybe the Angel just doesn't want certain characters (like Mettaton) to be happy? But this theory has the advantage of tying The Roaring and "banishing the AH" together naturally. As for Ralsei, it's possible that he might simply be a Stoic, clinging resolutely to his purpose even though he knows it's pointless.
Hear me out. What if he is still the knight anyway. Being a scientist, this would be like an experiment, being the one to put it into action, but also introducing the conflict, just like a scientist. (It is unknown, but I find it very likely he did the soul transfer, adding the variable of player choice to either add a variable to or create the whole experiment from. In this vein, ralsei is a control, Kris is a variable, and Susie is set up to interact with the variable (why else was Kris chosen specifically?) Noelle is an output variable, being heavily influenced by the players choice, and berdly doesn't seem to fit smoothly into this, mabye he is one of the results. (Noelle and susie, which both interact with kris, also interact in meaningful ways with berdly. is a Remove outside influence by setting it in an experiment of your own design. He is essentially testing choice, or rather the choice of the player. (I will probably post my own comment about this.)
I think that the "Beware the man who speaks in hands" is clearly in reference to wingdings and Gaster, however I think that the "Beware the man from another world" refers to Sans, as he is both simultaneously in Undertale as well as Deltarune.
@@bobjone8039 What I think they meant to say is that Sans is the most similar between his Undertale & Deltarune counterparts compared to anyone else. Sure, other characters share some similarities to their Undertale counterparts, but the UT and DR Sans-es are almost exactly the same.
what about papyrus? he clearly exists in the lore, but is suspiciously missing from gameplay, unlike every other major character in UT. the only other character that we never see is- get this- the knight.
@@UnoriginalJokester While you’re right, doesn’t the steam page have something mentioning Papyrus’s absence? Saying he’s “busy” or something? Coming from Toby, that seems like it’s hinting towards something… Who knows. Toby always has something up his sleeve.
COLLECT ALL MY EGGS, I, THE MAN BEHIND THE TREE. PUT THEM IN THE TOWN, AND LET ME BE FREE. MY HEAD IS AN EGG, CRACKED MAY IT BE. MY SEAL WILL BE BROKEN, JUST WAIT AND SEE.
@@Monkebs45i dunno, i don't really think spookydood's counter evidence against knight!papyrus holds up to inspection. his first major point is that the knight's actions in the card kingdom don't seem like something papyrus would do, in particular the imprisonment of the other kings. but papyrus has a textual history with taking people captive - if you lose to him in undertale, he imprisons you rather than killing you outright. these are two out of three instances of people being taken as prisoners in these games, with the other one being when the spade king captures the party in chapter one, which seems to be a move borrowed directly from the knight. placing the spade king into power is a little odd, i'll admit, but papyrus has been shown to be overtrusting of malicious people in the no mercy route. i don't think it's totally out of character. and as for the idea that papyrus wouldn't want to cause the roaring, i don't actually buy that the knight is interested in the roaring at all. the only people who call the knight the "Roaring Knight" are queen and susie, both of whom don't really know much about the roaring at all. in my opinion, knight!papyrus would probably be reminiscent of the role he plays in the true pacifist ending of undertale. his actions would have been spurred on by some other villain, manipulating him into setting up an end of the world scenario. this would mirror him gathering all of the monsters at flowey's behest at the end of true pacifist. now. this (and most of the direct evidence for knight!papyrus) is all pretty spotty evidence, yes. but that also applies to any knight candidate at this point, and i think what really separates papyrus from all the others is his thematic connection to deltarune. loneliness and forgettability are core aspects of his character in undertale, and they're also themes baked into the very soul of deltarune. no other popular candidate can really claim that, aside from maybe the vessel.
@@gretchling5012Queen doesn't know about the roaring and calls the knight the roaring knight so idk. And also we don't know if papyrus is in deltarune or not
@@kirabey8946I don’t think it’s Kris. Sure he created a fountain but I think it’s because of the ending of chapter 2 where Susie was talking about the dark world and trying to get Ralsei to come to the light world..
Does anyone else think that since he was quote “shattered across space and time” , there are more than two gasters, like way more. Theoretically, the roaring knight is a piece of gaster and the titans are also pieces. So that explains why he’s trying to bring the roaring;to become whole again. BUT HEY, THAT’S JUST A THEO-
Simple : players pushes buttons on keyboards to chat and play on computer... They SPEAK IN HANDS. Who does that ? WD.Gaster, the one who speaks in HANDS. Theory, we may be Gaster
@@anbon4985wait that’s kinda smart maybe gaster comes in different sizes of fragments the mystery man may be 50% the small piece the gaster follower has may be 5% and maybe the shadow crystals are the smallest like 1%
@@UgarimptyGaster being scattered through time and space after he "fell into his creation" is a metaphor for the thousands of people who have played Undertale since its release, at different times and all over the world I won't elaborate
Gaster's involvement in Deltarune excites me so much. Like many others I was so intrigued by his existence in Undertale back when it came out. Having him be seemingly integral to the plot in this game, and the thought that we might finally get to actually meet him gets me so hyped for future chapters and the story of Deltarune as a whole. I like other theories for who the Knight might be a lot, but Gaster Knight theory is my personal favorite take on it, and you did a great job of making convincing points!. Also was not expecting Chris Chan to scream in my face at the end, but great video regardless lmao.
I don’t think the Knight’s identity is the mystery, it’s his intentions. I seriously doubt the Knight’s goal is to destroy the world via the Roaring, there has to be some deeper intention(s) considering this.
the knight's motivations could potentially be bringing the roaring without the intention to destroy the world. in hometown, the angel is apparently a religious figure that people likely worship and look up to. but in the prophecy, the heroes intend to banish the "angel's heaven." there's a bit of a disconnect there. if the roaring and the angel's heaven are the same thing (or similar in the ways they're brought about), then maybe the knight is religious and believes bringing the roaring is a good thing. depending on who the knight is, there can be more motivations expanded on that idea, but i think this is a likely possibility
@@mxlsiia If the Knight wanted to cause the Roaring, instead of creating Card Kingdom, then Cyber World, then the other dark worlds, it would have been more efficient to literally just create the Card Kingdom dark fountain, then create a dark world inside that. I don’t think the Knight wants to cause the Roaring, but if not, what does it want to do? I personally believe that the Knight is setting up some kind of game by causing the great calamity and then trying to force the heroes into this. But then, why would it be known as the _Roaring_ Knight? It’s hard to draw any kind of conclusion considering that the Roaring is literally the end of the world. The Knight is an enigma and theorising about it makes my head hurt.
20:40 we actually have proof (or at least hints) beyond "it would be weird writing if they were driven insane by two different people". If you go back to Spamton's shop after the Neo fight, all the Addisons are lined up in the trash zone, paying respect to their old friend. They'll tell you how Spamton was on the phone with someone all the time, and once, an Addison found his phone when he must've left in the middle of a conversation without hanging up. They could still hear someone on the other end... but when they put the receiver to their ear, there was "nothing but garbage noise". That's the exact same wording the game uses when we use our cellphone in the dark world and hear the entry 17 noise. So it's definitely intending to imply that Spamton was talking to Gaster, too. Might be a red herring, but I don't think so.
Awesome video! The only thing that hints at you having under 100 subs is the audio quality. Literally everything else is top notch! Also, your theory actually gave motivation to why Gaster would be doing any of this, unlike so many Gaster theories. I still don’t believe he’s the knight, but that motivation is, as I see it, important to all Gaster theories going forward (because they have to include them). Keep up the good work!
One mistake tho. As far as we can see, Spamtom is not insane, he is apparently a sane man stripped off his free will by an unknown entity (much like how we theorise Kris was). So saying that he might have gone insane because of something Gaster told him doesn't make a lot of sense. If anything he went insane because of his despairing situation
This is a good spot to put my spamton fact spamton has 3 distinct voices the DOMINANT VOICE SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS the [other] theory speaks with the [brackets] and the third voice is his main one with no brackets but hey that’s just a [SPAM]
The fact that the Gaster log says “photon reading negatives” is very, very, interesting. Does it mean that negative photons exist (darkness particles instead of light particles), or that there are no photons (no light)? Either way, I think Gaster found a dark world or created one in Undertale.
i think it means literal negative light, since when susie and kris open the closet doors at the beginning of chapter 1, it literally spreads darkness throughout the room as if it was light
From my research, photons are related to the electromagnetic spectrum, which includes visible light. The "photon readings negative" line probably indicates the experiment involves something with no light whatsoever - so something shrouded in complete darkness. I wonder what he was experimenting on hmmmmm...
Photons ARE light. Absolute darkness would be a state where there are zero photons, but not negative photons. "Negative photon count" makes no sense, it's like saying that you weigh -100 kg. Whatever Gaster was experimenting on must have somehow been "creating darkness", because it was somehow making the room darker than it would be if there was zero light in it. Back in Undertale this was inscrutable, but now we know that this matches the description of a Dark Fountain pretty closely.
@@CantusTropus You don’t think that a work of fiction can have alternative laws of physics? Why can’t a world that only exists in our minds have negative photons or an object weighing -100kg?
immaculate production value, speaking, and sourcing. I like how you sorted all the evidence :) one thing though - towards the end of the video, it feels like youre reading in front of the audience rather than speaking to them, imo
20:33 Gaster Deltarune is the knight and Gaster Undertale is the strange someone driving people insane maybe? Just another wild speculation before I actually watch the conclusion.
8:16 Here's a crazy idea with no evidence or anything to back it: What if Deltarune actually just has its own independent Gaster, but due to his counterparts experements and being shattered across time and space, some of his memories colided with that of this one, hence how he even knows of the fountains in the first place causing him to figure out the prophecy and start trouble with the soontobe secret bosses... After all, being shattered 9/10 times also means your dead and it would make more sense if the Gaster we all know is actually the deltarune counterpart now aware that both worlds are games is bouncing between the two doing stuff in secret... perhaps even revieviving his counterparts in certain timelines, that would explain the inconsistency too, as the two worlds uave separate timelines, frisk could cross the underground beat whatever ending they were going for and reset in the time it takes Kris to get to the card castle, this gives DR Gaster time to go to the world in some timelines, leave and not be seen in the next...
The problem I have with any Knight candidate, especially Gaster, is the fact that there's really nothing attempting to support it other than "it would be cool/fitting" or "we haven't seen them yet, so they're a valid candidate." Except for Kris, but I'm not gonna get into that right now. The "EGG in Wingdings" thing has always just been seen as a coincidence for me. There's just too many leaps that need to be taken in order to get there in my opinion. Unrelated, but I have a similar feeling to the typer value thing. Typer values are used to distinguish different speaking styles, not necessarily different characters. The most likely reason the typer value changes here is not because a different character is speaking, but because Gaster just wanted to change his speaking style to sound more threatening or something. Also, I've never really thought of the "Another Him" thing as evidence for there being another Gaster. To me, I think this is a reference to the fact that Gaster's Theme is named "him" in the sound files of Undertale. "Another Him" is not in reference to another Gaster, but rather another Gaster's Theme. Really, most theories involving Gaster that I've seen heavily overanalyzes things that are basically insignificant, and I can't exactly blame them for it, given how frustratingly little we know about him. I'm not saying Gaster CAN'T be the Knight, I just find it weird that some people say it's "CONFIRMED" because of these tiny tiny details.
I agree there's no actual evidence that Gaster's the knight. I'm kind of annoyed with myself for choosing the safest option, but my spidey senses and tingling with this one. The amount of thought Toby put into Gaster's lore suggests that there's more in store for his character. I think from a writing perspective, making Gaster the knight is a no brainer because it'd be such a crowd pleaser. Imagine how cool it'd be if Gaster finally got some screentime! So yeah, I guess I'm kinda biased on this lol
I fully expect that if Gaster does make an appearance, he won't look anything like mystery man, just to mess with us. Either that, or mystery man will appear somewhere in game (perhaps as a secret boss?), but will explicitly be named something OTHER than Gaster.
in my opinion i don't think the "egg in wingdings" thing can be dismissed as mere coincidence, considering toby fox has to go this long of a way since undertale/deltarune fans will scour every little crevice of the game for secrets. it's likely intended so people can dismiss it as coincidence. and an egg just seems kinda random... definitely agree tho when people are like "____ is the knight!! it's basically confirmed" since there's contradictions to every theory and there's not enough evidence on anything yet
@@CantusTropus I personally would have to disagree. I doubt Toby would make Gaster something other than mystery man solely for the sake of messing with us. I just don't think he's the type of person to do that. Besides, if mystery man really wasn't Gaster, then what other purpose would mystery man serve? Literally the only thing he ever did in Undertale was... exist. Mystery man not being Gaster would mean he's in the Deltarune universe somewhere, and he simply didn't do enough in Undertale to where his reveal would be compelling. Of all the Deltarune characters to be physically shown in Undertale, why this one if not to foreshadow Gaster himself? I feel like mystery man being Gaster simply makes more sense than for him not to be.
TL;DR: Deltarune is an experiment being overseen and influenced by gaster, with each character and dark world being parts of the experiment. What if he is running an experiment, and not causing choas and despair for the sake of it? He is running the experiment, being the one to put it into action, but also introducing the conflict, just like a scientist. He is adding the variable of player choice to experiment on. In this vein, ralsei is a control, not really being affected by anyone in meaningful ways to the experiment (such as causing key events to happen (like going to dark worlds, fighting secret bosses, or fundamentally changing the characters personalities and actions.) Kris is a variable, being the vessel for that outside choice, Susie is set up to interact with the variable (why else was Kris chosen specifically? Being bullied by susie.) Susie makes a lot of her own choices, which makes for a perfect variable to interact with another and see how it changes it. Noelle is an output variable, being heavily influenced by the players choice, particularly during snowgrave. The whole existence of snowgrave also tells me the experiments are also testing how aware of the universe the player is. Berdly, however, doesn't seem to fit smoothly into this, mabye he is one of the results. (Noelle and susie, which both interact with kris, also interact in meaningful ways to the experiment with berdly, quite possibly being indirectly influenced by kris via the butterfly effect. (For example, Susie is directly influenced by kris during the first chapter when in the dark world, having a slight change of heart in the elevator. This leads to them going back the next day, picking up lancer, going to the cyber dark world, lancer freeing them, and susie taunting berdly about the puzzles in queens mansion, and berdly dropping his smart facade.) Jevil and spamton are both potential tests as well, being optional. Would the player make this choice? Each of them have other variables effecting that choice set up as well (you can see more clearly in spamton) but i'll leave that to interpretation. Kris is the variable, but not really. The player is. Kris is actively fighting against the experiment, even creating their own dark world to try and stop the tests. Think about it, the dark worlds become unstable when there are too many of them, and kris would probably rather have their own world then one designed specifically for a test. Kris knows about this test too, given chapter 1 and its ending. (IDK about you, but if suddenly my feet and hands and voice were moving without my consent, and I possibly had another voice in my head, I would burry my hand into my chest to get rid of it.) Kris knows were it is when player control halts. (If your arm went limp, you would suddenly be much more aware about it.) Of course, Kris is the only in game character aware, so the only one backlashing. The experimentor. The tree spots are the places where the experiment is being overseen, being between space. The egg is random and unstable, and I am not sure how it relates. One thing for sure, it is foreign. One thing for sure, characters are bing directly influenced to run the experiment. However, there does seem to be little hints of gaster being in direct conflict, or more likely, working with a higher force. Who? Toby. Let me explain. During the start you design your vessel, only to get discarded. Either Gaster thought a vessel would be necessary, but toby found a better solution, or the vessel was being designed as a failsafe. (Given kris's behavior, the latter seems likely.) We then see some text that is ludicrously out of character for the meticulous, calm, and collected scientist. We also see toby in the computer lab during chapter one, also causing the car crash in chapter 2, essentially helping the experiment remain as focused and contained as possible. This is a giant leap to make. I reconize that. However this makes just enough sense to me. No one specifically is out to cause the roaring, and while it is plausible, I don'tthink one specific entity is going to cause it. It's going to be a combination of gaster running the experiment, and kris fighting against it. (This would create a commentary on conflict, which I think Toby would be a fan of including.) Hear me out, gaster wants to know how players think, in order to either 1. Understand the world better 2. Cross the fourth wall 3. Finish his studies on determination (he must've deducted that they come from the outside source known as the player) 4. Understand the relationship between the player and characters 5. Science for the sake of science 6. Protect somthing, which is unclear at present. 7. See what happens when somthing with a soul gets another soul, a soul with the determination required for player control. (Given this, we have four soul types. Monster souls, boss monster souls, human souls, and player souls. This also makes sense in undertale, as we always seem to be more determined than anything, despite fighting a goat flower with 6 human souls.) I think this experiment theory holds some weight. I'm very interested to see what you guys think.
23:18 What if those glow shards are part of him, or crystalized monster soul from being shattered... Also the whole not enough determination thing holds up from Undertales lore meaning monsters lack determination unlike deltarune monsters, who can hold it better... Gaster probably has the maximum amount undertale monsters can maintain which isn't nearly enough to do this consistently...
Absolutely crazy nutjob theory of mine, but what if Toriel is the Knight. I think the biggest hang up I have with most Knight theories are the location of the first dark fountain. From what I can tell so far, someone has to be physically in a location to make a fountain. And for me, that dismisses a large amount of candidates instantly. Not anyone can just walk into a school completely unnoticed. Theres a few other small pieces of evidence here and there, but for a motive I could imagine Toriel is doing it for a little escapism. She's recently divorced, one of her children is off at college, and the other has been acting differently as of this week. Perhaps she's just making these worlds not realizing that she could be bringing on the roaring. The biggest hole in the theory I've noticed myself is that the timing for Toriel to make the second fountain is extremely tight, as its implied the fountain was made while Berdly and Noelle were in the library, meaning she had to sprint over to the library after her conversation with Alphys and make the fountain. If this theory is correct, then I have a prediction for chapter 3. Toriel wont be a big part of the chapter, Undyne will. And Toriel will be missing, using the excuse of sleeping through the night for why she wasnt around.
Problem is, I don't think Toriel's personality fits the Knight, especially given where the fountains have been open so far. The first fountain has been opened in the school, which means the Knight is willing to endanger children, which I doubt Toriel is the type of person to do that. Also, the idea that the Knight doesn't know about the Roaring is disproven by their very title: "The *Roaring* Knight"
@@UnoriginalJokester Titles dont necessarily imply that. I mean, from a storytelling standpoint, your absolutely right, but from a logistic standpoint, technically the knight coulda gotten the title "The Roaring Knight" by... roaring. That'd be really lame if that were the answer, so I don't think that's the answer, but technically, it could be.
I will say though, my points basically mean nothing because we absolutely should be caring about what makes sense in a storytelling perspective and not a logistic perspective
okay this comment will list every piece of overanalyzing in this video. 10:20 I feel like this is a bit of overanalyzing a game for having a clock be at a specific time but okay 12:01 yes feel free to reply with any more or show criticism and stuff.
Its Kris. We lose control of him at the end of each Chapter so he could make a Fountain after he gets rid of you. And we know The Knight is the one making fountaine.
nice video! i love that you brought up that it's possible that there are multiple instances of gaster present in deltarune - the version of him from undertale, and the version of him native to deltarune. my one nitpick with your evidence is that i don't really think gaster has much of a reason to covet human souls anymore. he seems to have been removed from his home reality, so even if he did obtain it, i don't think he'd have a way to deliver it back to the underground. other than that, good video.
My guess is that he plans on using the soul to become whole, or something like that. Kinda like how Tom a riddle tried to use Ginny’s soul for a similar purpose
Good theory, but honestly i think the idea that gaster exists as an actual character in deltarune and lived a real life as a rejected teacher a bit silly.
I like the idea that the knight is more so a pawn that gaster controls more appealing considering the themes of deltarune and gaster’s character kind of existing outside of the game.
I was replaying Deltarune to prepare a new save file, and I took some time to think about some words said in Chapter 1. The four kings locked Jevil, but only then does the Knight appear. However, Jevil talks about the Knight when defeated. Either the one he met was the Knight, or the one he met told him about the Knight; which then means that someone either knows of the events that are about to happen, or The Knight just existed for a long time... Honestly, it is still mind blowing that we are about to get three chapters at the same time, that is going to be too much information
To me it's Papyrus is the roaring knight, the big boi knight Kris is A knight, just some dude I hate to say this before anyone complains in the replies DUDE IS A GENDER NEUTRAL PRONOUN TO ME
Yeah i got the meme but also what would toby fox do with like the he has complete troll he could just change the name of au this something else that will be amazing for me at least i do not like the word au just because it like weird sometimes deltarune more felt like a at alternate timeline i like using that word instead
I think Gaster isn't the knight cause acording to his followers he was shattered across time and space (dunno exactly what that means but i guess he doesn't really have a physichal form) he's deffinitaly associated with the knight but i don't think he is the knight i am one of the people who believe that Papyrus is the knight, here's the little evidence i can give you: Toriel said in undertale that she allways wanted to be a teacher and what is her job in deltarune? Exactly, a teacher. Now i wanna point out real quick that it doesn't work the same on anyone else we saw like Napstablook but those characters didn't really wanted a different job. Now back to the Papyrus point, he like Toriel wanted a certain job (i guess you can call it a job) and it being a royal guard wich king's guards are knights so if it works for Papyrus the same way it did to Tori, that means he would be the KNIGHT!!! Thank you for reading my theory and sorry it's so long 🙃💀
This is very well put together! I'm also really glad that you just go with the fact that the intro character is just straight up Gaster, or a piece of him. So many people lately have been wringing their hands saying that "technically" we don't know for sure who that is. And like, sure that is true. But also he uses the Another Him, he talks like Gaater, and has all these associations with 6. It's Gaster in some form. I personally like to think that Gaster is some sort of deity/puppet master over all of this. Hell, you can go deeper into the chess symbolism in this game and say that Gaster is playing chess with all the characters acting as the pieces, including the Knight. Plus, if chess theory holds up then we would be fighting the Knight in chapter five, and Gaster definitely feels like endgame stuff. Chapters 5 and 6 material. For my thoughts on the knight, i could just go with the easy answer and say Father Alvin. He's definitely the most popular choice these days, but what's the fun in that. My completely out there theory that I'll be so happy if I'm right is Mad Mew Mew. Or maybe she is Mad Dummy in DR rn. Or maybe something else if she doesn't even have the dummy. Idk i just think she's neat
7:5321:08 I think "The Angel's Heaven" from the prophecy is implied to be The Roaring (since it's what the three heroes appeared to banish), not something opposed to it, so this point doesn't make much sense imo
WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT, you just made me realise something. If your idea of Gaster wanting to do something with a "human soul" is true, it would make sense as to why Gaster could be trying to cause the roaring to create a connection (player with Kris through SOUL), but it's also very possible that Gaster is more of a server manager of the entire game, especially since the original demo was called SURVEY. I don't know what to make of it yet, there's still not enough information due to only two chapters being out, but I am totally considering a potential very fourth-wall breaking narrative in which Gaster is a character managing the application "DELTARUNE" while Toby himself has everything planned out and is the narrator, along with the Annoying Dog. Unrelated* but I'm also thinking of the possibility that DR characters aren't UT characters, but vice versa, it's just that due to the happenings in the timeline and the release dates of either of the games made almost all of us consider that UT is the OG game while DR is the secondary game, even though I think Toby has been working on the plot of DR for much longer? Almost makes me think UT might be a prototype, especially since it's existed for so long and UT has had foreshadowing elements hinting at what the future will bring, but that's something Toby knows and I can just speculate. *the "unrelated" part immediately made me remember it's an anagram for both "undertale" and "delta rune"; not important but it made me chuckle
The "Server Manager" idea is supported by the alternate save/load screen you get in chapter 1 if you access it before beating the chapter. That features a very simple green and black "Old computer looking" menu where the voice from the Goner Maker section describes the save/load/copy/delete actions in ominous language.
Toby created Gaster and the Deltarune/Undertale multiverse. Gaster created "SURVEY_PROGRAM", the PLAYER plays through the game so Gaster can steal your SOUL. Probably so he can become ""god"".
This was aweosme! I love litsening to theories and cant wait for the next ones in this series! Also this is so underated for how indepth it goes! Its very well put together and does well at explaining the thoughts behind it (Goodness gracious this comment sounds so dry lmao)
For I will not forget these lost souls. I will hold them and save them, will you? For everyone else, it gets darker yet darker. And yet I welcome it. Sometimes shadows linger in the dark. Sometimes you have to go to the places where it gets dark. Sometimes in those places, you can find information in answers that are very interesting. But don't take it from me. Take it from the man who speaks in hands. For beware, the players in the other world. Listen, this time to the man who speaks in hands, trello law. Law For I do not know yet who's friend or foe? But still, my spirits remain high, will the rest of the world remain slow? And low But still, I sing these songs to myself. Then again, it's rude to interrupt. Someone who's watching and listening to everything. Tralala
This was insane ... And great. Gaster is not the knight, but he is definitely instrumental to the workings of deltarune. I can see the first bit of that being true, where gaster was a teacher
10:10 semantic alert and disclaimer. the picture shows left, up, up the audio says up, up, right and the knight graph shows left, up, up. I'm assuming the small flub was do to a recording blooper. I'm only saying this to just acknowledge it as it tripped me up for a moment. this is not intended as an insult or humiliation.
Somewhere else, it's raining. Do you ever think about a world? Where you don't exist that can go on perfectly fine without you. The thought scares most, but it doesn't mean it's merely just another existence. As long as I'm real to me, that's all that matters. Tell me though, is it possible to miss someone? You never even met to feel rain on your skin when you've never even felt it in that area. Only time will tell, but remember stay determined For the shadows linger Near And hold on to these Lost Souls Because for everywhere else around us is darker yet darker. Believe me, though, does this experiment seem very, very interesting? But to you too, think tell me.
Toby Fox is the Knight. He is literally the one creating the dark worlds by making the game and driving Spamton and Jevil insane by writing their characters.
it's interesting how so many characters have been completely hidden so far. the man behind the tree, the strange someone that met jevil and spamton, the knight, gaster, the titans and the angel
wait I actually kinda love the idea of there being a deltarune equivalent of Gaster (and the man behind the tree being Deltarune Gaster and the Goner Maker voice being the more traditional Undertale Gaster)
If you intend to run through other Knight candidates, then are you familiar with the post "Reappraising Father Alvin"? Full disclosure: I wrote it, so my endorsement is biased, but Spookydood gave it a shout-out as a source on Alvin Knight theorycrafting.
So yesterday I was looking for a piece from one of my old jewelry making sets from when I was younger, and I thought to myself "it's like the pieces have been scattered across time and space!" Then it occurred to me that maybe if Gaster is a Darkner, his Light World counterpart is one of those craft sets, or maybe a Lego set where all the pieces got scattered around or something. idk if this makes sense but just something I was thinking about.
Uhm... Spamton, and Jevil's stories are mentioned in game. Jevil was the jester for the Chaos King, one day he did something the king didn't command and was locked up for years and went insane with only his jokes to keep him going. Spamton was a highly respected salesman in Queen's kingdom, one day, because of something he did, I believe it was an item malfunction reported to Queen, caused Queen to get so pissed off she had two guards throw spamton into acid, which caused his body to melt, and his sane personality to leave him. (I can't exactly remember, it's been a hot minute since I played both chapters.)
Thank you for this, The canon & fanon versions of Gaster have gotten out of hand a tad, Not quite convinced of the theory that he is the knight but still interesting, Keep this up , good show!
Maybe Gaster invented the dark world as a way to test determination. One thing about the dark world we don't know about is how/ what the darkness that makes the world is. It isn't your average darkness. It is.... advanced darkness. All joking aside, the darkness could be a way of taking determination and using it to reshape the world. But the people that do have trauma/ darkness in their souls that taint this power. When kris opened his, light poured out like the light of his soul that then became dark, with shadow pouring like blood pouring from a wound, darkness from a wounded soul. The dark worlds, in a way, are reflections of the people that enter them after all, resonating with specific characters to help them get over that trauma. Like with chapter 1 and susie's aggression problems and chapter 2 with noelle and her troubles (specifically indicated by her reliance of the internet as shown in the spampton sweapstakes). Likely we might see Kris/ toriel's troubles show in chapter 3 For the roaring knight...Dess and Gaster are likely trapped in the dark world with no way to escape. Maybe the roaring knight and us, the player, were actually contacted by gaster in a realm between the light and dark world, to find a way to save those lost to the darkness with no way out. That would give motivation for common suspects like papyrus and father alvin. They are nice monsters and generally non violent or malicious. The reasoning for making more dark worlds, then, is then to go look for dess and gaster and maybe help other lightners overcome their struggles too. As they are lightners, they can make dark fountains to enter dark worlds, but without a human soul, they cannot close the fountains. Thus, they would risk causing the roaring by making too many fountains while searching. Which I personally think would happen by accident, making it more tragic and emotional in the long run.
13:47 Wait where's that from? I never gotten any sinister vibes from him nor have I heard any evil things about him, from what I could gather is that he's just like any other monster, generally friendly, maybe having a bad view of humanity at best due to their wrongs... At worst he could be reckless, cause how the heck do you fall into your own creation unless you didn't bother with guard rails and a net...
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One small hang up with the way you explain your final theory - I tend to think that Gaster is the one who created the prophecy and told ralsei in the first place. Ralsei says the prophecy came from "time and space" and to my knowledge I think gaster's backstory is the only other place in UT/DR that time and space is mentioned.
Ralsei seems to know in some moments about the player existence or that he is in a game. So it's possible that Gaster told to him.
The problem with this theory is that Spamton and Jevil seem to have talked with Gaster, and they both became insane. Ralsei would be the only exception.
And with Gaster being associated with the devil/666 it fits thematically for him to want to banish the angel's heaven. The confusing part is, is the roaring connected to the angel's heaven? The dark fountains are called "holy" at times, but then there's what Jevil is saying which makes it sound like the roaring comes from "hell".
@pedrobomal
There's been some fun theories in the fandom regarding that. What personally intrigues me is if there is an in-universe explanation as to why castle town is named after the player by chapter 2. Ralsei is like the owner of the place so it could've been him, but at the same time the only one who should know of the players name is Gaster.
That's a good point. I suspected Gaster (assuming my theory is correct lol) tried the same routine on Ralsei that he used on Jevil and Spamton, but I assumed the prophecy came from Ralsei. But know that you pointed it out, I'm wondering how Ralsei know about this prophecy except from an outside source?
@TheSoph1234 Part of me wants to say that Hometown itself is the Angel's Heaven, because it's a world where the Undertale cast can live peacefully, but that doesn't quite sit right with me because of how many of the fandom's desires are thwarted. You'd expect HT to have more fan wish fulfilment if that were the case. Still, that's assuming that the fans/player are the Angel, which is far from certain. Maybe the Angel just doesn't want certain characters (like Mettaton) to be happy? But this theory has the advantage of tying The Roaring and "banishing the AH" together naturally.
As for Ralsei, it's possible that he might simply be a Stoic, clinging resolutely to his purpose even though he knows it's pointless.
Hear me out. What if he is still the knight anyway. Being a scientist, this would be like an experiment, being the one to put it into action, but also introducing the conflict, just like a scientist. (It is unknown, but I find it very likely he did the soul transfer, adding the variable of player choice to either add a variable to or create the whole experiment from. In this vein, ralsei is a control, Kris is a variable, and Susie is set up to interact with the variable (why else was Kris chosen specifically?) Noelle is an output variable, being heavily influenced by the players choice, and berdly doesn't seem to fit smoothly into this, mabye he is one of the results. (Noelle and susie, which both interact with kris, also interact in meaningful ways with berdly. is a Remove outside influence by setting it in an experiment of your own design. He is essentially testing choice, or rather the choice of the player. (I will probably post my own comment about this.)
I think that the "Beware the man who speaks in hands" is clearly in reference to wingdings and Gaster, however I think that the "Beware the man from another world" refers to Sans, as he is both simultaneously in Undertale as well as Deltarune.
So is asgore…..
@@bobjone8039 What I think they meant to say is that Sans is the most similar between his Undertale & Deltarune counterparts compared to anyone else. Sure, other characters share some similarities to their Undertale counterparts, but the UT and DR Sans-es are almost exactly the same.
what about papyrus? he clearly exists in the lore, but is suspiciously missing from gameplay, unlike every other major character in UT. the only other character that we never see is- get this- the knight.
@@Voidmoth1 To be fair, Asriel is also missing from gameplay, and him being the Knight seems unlikely.
@@UnoriginalJokester While you’re right, doesn’t the steam page have something mentioning Papyrus’s absence? Saying he’s “busy” or something? Coming from Toby, that seems like it’s hinting towards something… Who knows. Toby always has something up his sleeve.
COLLECT ALL MY EGGS, I, THE MAN BEHIND THE TREE.
PUT THEM IN THE TOWN, AND LET ME BE FREE.
MY HEAD IS AN EGG, CRACKED MAY IT BE.
MY SEAL WILL BE BROKEN, JUST WAIT AND SEE.
It's Jerry.
fr fr
I honestly hope it's some joke character like him
Gasters (Mystery Man)s head upside down looks like the dela rune without the center triangle
it's papyrus
While that would be cool, it’s not likely based on the evidence. SpookyDood has a really good video on the subject.
It’s not
@@Monkebs45i dunno, i don't really think spookydood's counter evidence against knight!papyrus holds up to inspection.
his first major point is that the knight's actions in the card kingdom don't seem like something papyrus would do, in particular the imprisonment of the other kings. but papyrus has a textual history with taking people captive - if you lose to him in undertale, he imprisons you rather than killing you outright. these are two out of three instances of people being taken as prisoners in these games, with the other one being when the spade king captures the party in chapter one, which seems to be a move borrowed directly from the knight.
placing the spade king into power is a little odd, i'll admit, but papyrus has been shown to be overtrusting of malicious people in the no mercy route. i don't think it's totally out of character.
and as for the idea that papyrus wouldn't want to cause the roaring, i don't actually buy that the knight is interested in the roaring at all. the only people who call the knight the "Roaring Knight" are queen and susie, both of whom don't really know much about the roaring at all.
in my opinion, knight!papyrus would probably be reminiscent of the role he plays in the true pacifist ending of undertale. his actions would have been spurred on by some other villain, manipulating him into setting up an end of the world scenario. this would mirror him gathering all of the monsters at flowey's behest at the end of true pacifist.
now. this (and most of the direct evidence for knight!papyrus) is all pretty spotty evidence, yes. but that also applies to any knight candidate at this point, and i think what really separates papyrus from all the others is his thematic connection to deltarune. loneliness and forgettability are core aspects of his character in undertale, and they're also themes baked into the very soul of deltarune. no other popular candidate can really claim that, aside from maybe the vessel.
@@gretchling5012Queen doesn't know about the roaring and calls the knight the roaring knight so idk. And also we don't know if papyrus is in deltarune or not
No I think that there might be multiple knights and papyrus and kris are one of them
I really feel like the knight is gonna be someone really simple and it’s not even this deep lol
Its most likely Kris. We have to figure out their motivation instead of the identity of the knight.
@@kirabey8946honestly their current lack of (known) motivation is the only rhing holding me back from believing its them.
That'd be lame tho
@@kirabey8946I don’t think it’s Kris. Sure he created a fountain but I think it’s because of the ending of chapter 2 where Susie was talking about the dark world and trying to get Ralsei to come to the light world..
Does anyone else think that since he was quote “shattered across space and time” , there are more than two gasters, like way more. Theoretically, the roaring knight is a piece of gaster and the titans are also pieces. So that explains why he’s trying to bring the roaring;to become whole again. BUT HEY, THAT’S JUST A THEO-
Crazy theory: gaster is the shadow crystals
Simple : players pushes buttons on keyboards to chat and play on computer... They SPEAK IN HANDS.
Who does that ?
WD.Gaster, the one who speaks in HANDS.
Theory, we may be Gaster
@@anbon4985You imagine?
Gaster being the whole origin of Deltarune would be very crazy shit.
@@anbon4985wait that’s kinda smart maybe gaster comes in different sizes of fragments the mystery man may be 50% the small piece the gaster follower has may be 5% and maybe the shadow crystals are the smallest like 1%
@@UgarimptyGaster being scattered through time and space after he "fell into his creation" is a metaphor for the thousands of people who have played Undertale since its release, at different times and all over the world
I won't elaborate
Nah, obviously the egg is the knight
Yes.
The knight is trans!!
@@arohamumberry7324 the knight came out 🥳🥳
Gaster's involvement in Deltarune excites me so much. Like many others I was so intrigued by his existence in Undertale back when it came out. Having him be seemingly integral to the plot in this game, and the thought that we might finally get to actually meet him gets me so hyped for future chapters and the story of Deltarune as a whole. I like other theories for who the Knight might be a lot, but Gaster Knight theory is my personal favorite take on it, and you did a great job of making convincing points!. Also was not expecting Chris Chan to scream in my face at the end, but great video regardless lmao.
I don’t think the Knight’s identity is the mystery, it’s his intentions. I seriously doubt the Knight’s goal is to destroy the world via the Roaring, there has to be some deeper intention(s) considering this.
the knight's motivations could potentially be bringing the roaring without the intention to destroy the world. in hometown, the angel is apparently a religious figure that people likely worship and look up to. but in the prophecy, the heroes intend to banish the "angel's heaven." there's a bit of a disconnect there. if the roaring and the angel's heaven are the same thing (or similar in the ways they're brought about), then maybe the knight is religious and believes bringing the roaring is a good thing. depending on who the knight is, there can be more motivations expanded on that idea, but i think this is a likely possibility
@@mxlsiia If the Knight wanted to cause the Roaring, instead of creating Card Kingdom, then Cyber World, then the other dark worlds, it would have been more efficient to literally just create the Card Kingdom dark fountain, then create a dark world inside that.
I don’t think the Knight wants to cause the Roaring, but if not, what does it want to do? I personally believe that the Knight is setting up some kind of game by causing the great calamity and then trying to force the heroes into this. But then, why would it be known as the _Roaring_ Knight?
It’s hard to draw any kind of conclusion considering that the Roaring is literally the end of the world. The Knight is an enigma and theorising about it makes my head hurt.
@@thecubularemperorI don't think you can create a dark world in a dark world
@@thisblazedude Berdly almost did and would have done so if Ralsei didn’t snap.
@@thecubularemperor oh yeah I forgot about that maybe the knight just didn't know
20:40 we actually have proof (or at least hints) beyond "it would be weird writing if they were driven insane by two different people". If you go back to Spamton's shop after the Neo fight, all the Addisons are lined up in the trash zone, paying respect to their old friend. They'll tell you how Spamton was on the phone with someone all the time, and once, an Addison found his phone when he must've left in the middle of a conversation without hanging up. They could still hear someone on the other end... but when they put the receiver to their ear, there was "nothing but garbage noise". That's the exact same wording the game uses when we use our cellphone in the dark world and hear the entry 17 noise. So it's definitely intending to imply that Spamton was talking to Gaster, too. Might be a red herring, but I don't think so.
Awesome video! The only thing that hints at you having under 100 subs is the audio quality. Literally everything else is top notch!
Also, your theory actually gave motivation to why Gaster would be doing any of this, unlike so many Gaster theories. I still don’t believe he’s the knight, but that motivation is, as I see it, important to all Gaster theories going forward (because they have to include them).
Keep up the good work!
42 likes and no replies? Lemme fix that
WAIT THEY HAVE UNDER 1K SUBS I THOUGHT THEY HAD LIKE 30K CUZ OF HOW GOOD THE VID WAS
They are definitely over 1k now
One mistake tho. As far as we can see, Spamtom is not insane, he is apparently a sane man stripped off his free will by an unknown entity (much like how we theorise Kris was). So saying that he might have gone insane because of something Gaster told him doesn't make a lot of sense. If anything he went insane because of his despairing situation
Makes sense.
This is a good spot to put my spamton fact spamton has 3 distinct voices the DOMINANT VOICE SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS the [other] theory speaks with the [brackets] and the third voice is his main one with no brackets but hey that’s just a [SPAM]
What you're saying is supported by the fact that he becomes completely coherent once his strings are cut.
The fact that the Gaster log says “photon reading negatives” is very, very, interesting. Does it mean that negative photons exist (darkness particles instead of light particles), or that there are no photons (no light)? Either way, I think Gaster found a dark world or created one in Undertale.
i think it means literal negative light, since when susie and kris open the closet doors at the beginning of chapter 1, it literally spreads darkness throughout the room as if it was light
From my research, photons are related to the electromagnetic spectrum, which includes visible light. The "photon readings negative" line probably indicates the experiment involves something with no light whatsoever - so something shrouded in complete darkness. I wonder what he was experimenting on hmmmmm...
Photons ARE light. Absolute darkness would be a state where there are zero photons, but not negative photons. "Negative photon count" makes no sense, it's like saying that you weigh -100 kg. Whatever Gaster was experimenting on must have somehow been "creating darkness", because it was somehow making the room darker than it would be if there was zero light in it. Back in Undertale this was inscrutable, but now we know that this matches the description of a Dark Fountain pretty closely.
@@CantusTropusI think "photon readings negative" means the test that detects photons tested negative, i.e. there were no photons detected.
@@CantusTropus
You don’t think that a work of fiction can have alternative laws of physics? Why can’t a world that only exists in our minds have negative photons or an object weighing -100kg?
immaculate production value, speaking, and sourcing. I like how you sorted all the evidence :)
one thing though - towards the end of the video, it feels like youre reading in front of the audience rather than speaking to them, imo
It’s obviously the diaper weirdo from City Hall, talking to him would drive anyone insane
3:47
Six doesn't sound like a real word anymore lol
20:33 Gaster Deltarune is the knight and Gaster Undertale is the strange someone driving people insane maybe? Just another wild speculation before I actually watch the conclusion.
8:16 Here's a crazy idea with no evidence or anything to back it: What if Deltarune actually just has its own independent Gaster, but due to his counterparts experements and being shattered across time and space, some of his memories colided with that of this one, hence how he even knows of the fountains in the first place causing him to figure out the prophecy and start trouble with the soontobe secret bosses...
After all, being shattered 9/10 times also means your dead and it would make more sense if the Gaster we all know is actually the deltarune counterpart now aware that both worlds are games is bouncing between the two doing stuff in secret... perhaps even revieviving his counterparts in certain timelines, that would explain the inconsistency too, as the two worlds uave separate timelines, frisk could cross the underground beat whatever ending they were going for and reset in the time it takes Kris to get to the card castle, this gives DR Gaster time to go to the world in some timelines, leave and not be seen in the next...
11:53 Welp, there goes my outlandish theory... It was fun while it lasted but again, I had 0 evidence backing it up beside the song title...
The problem I have with any Knight candidate, especially Gaster, is the fact that there's really nothing attempting to support it other than "it would be cool/fitting" or "we haven't seen them yet, so they're a valid candidate." Except for Kris, but I'm not gonna get into that right now.
The "EGG in Wingdings" thing has always just been seen as a coincidence for me. There's just too many leaps that need to be taken in order to get there in my opinion. Unrelated, but I have a similar feeling to the typer value thing. Typer values are used to distinguish different speaking styles, not necessarily different characters. The most likely reason the typer value changes here is not because a different character is speaking, but because Gaster just wanted to change his speaking style to sound more threatening or something.
Also, I've never really thought of the "Another Him" thing as evidence for there being another Gaster. To me, I think this is a reference to the fact that Gaster's Theme is named "him" in the sound files of Undertale. "Another Him" is not in reference to another Gaster, but rather another Gaster's Theme.
Really, most theories involving Gaster that I've seen heavily overanalyzes things that are basically insignificant, and I can't exactly blame them for it, given how frustratingly little we know about him. I'm not saying Gaster CAN'T be the Knight, I just find it weird that some people say it's "CONFIRMED" because of these tiny tiny details.
I agree there's no actual evidence that Gaster's the knight. I'm kind of annoyed with myself for choosing the safest option, but my spidey senses and tingling with this one. The amount of thought Toby put into Gaster's lore suggests that there's more in store for his character. I think from a writing perspective, making Gaster the knight is a no brainer because it'd be such a crowd pleaser. Imagine how cool it'd be if Gaster finally got some screentime!
So yeah, I guess I'm kinda biased on this lol
I fully expect that if Gaster does make an appearance, he won't look anything like mystery man, just to mess with us. Either that, or mystery man will appear somewhere in game (perhaps as a secret boss?), but will explicitly be named something OTHER than Gaster.
in my opinion i don't think the "egg in wingdings" thing can be dismissed as mere coincidence, considering toby fox has to go this long of a way since undertale/deltarune fans will scour every little crevice of the game for secrets. it's likely intended so people can dismiss it as coincidence. and an egg just seems kinda random...
definitely agree tho when people are like "____ is the knight!! it's basically confirmed" since there's contradictions to every theory and there's not enough evidence on anything yet
@@CantusTropustbh i feel like toby fox would actually do that 💀 all the fanart depictions of gaster just get thrown out the window lmao
@@CantusTropus I personally would have to disagree. I doubt Toby would make Gaster something other than mystery man solely for the sake of messing with us. I just don't think he's the type of person to do that.
Besides, if mystery man really wasn't Gaster, then what other purpose would mystery man serve? Literally the only thing he ever did in Undertale was... exist. Mystery man not being Gaster would mean he's in the Deltarune universe somewhere, and he simply didn't do enough in Undertale to where his reveal would be compelling. Of all the Deltarune characters to be physically shown in Undertale, why this one if not to foreshadow Gaster himself?
I feel like mystery man being Gaster simply makes more sense than for him not to be.
TL;DR: Deltarune is an experiment being overseen and influenced by gaster, with each character and dark world being parts of the experiment.
What if he is running an experiment, and not causing choas and despair for the sake of it? He is running the experiment, being the one to put it into action, but also introducing the conflict, just like a scientist. He is adding the variable of player choice to experiment on. In this vein,
ralsei is a control, not really being affected by anyone in meaningful ways to the experiment (such as causing key events to happen (like going to dark worlds, fighting secret bosses, or fundamentally changing the characters personalities and actions.)
Kris is a variable, being the vessel for that outside choice,
Susie is set up to interact with the variable (why else was Kris chosen specifically? Being bullied by susie.) Susie makes a lot of her own choices, which makes for a perfect variable to interact with another and see how it changes it.
Noelle is an output variable, being heavily influenced by the players choice, particularly during snowgrave. The whole existence of snowgrave also tells me the experiments are also testing how aware of the universe the player is.
Berdly, however, doesn't seem to fit smoothly into this, mabye he is one of the results. (Noelle and susie, which both interact with kris, also interact in meaningful ways to the experiment with berdly, quite possibly being indirectly influenced by kris via the butterfly effect. (For example, Susie is directly influenced by kris during the first chapter when in the dark world, having a slight change of heart in the elevator. This leads to them going back the next day, picking up lancer, going to the cyber dark world, lancer freeing them, and susie taunting berdly about the puzzles in queens mansion, and berdly dropping his smart facade.)
Jevil and spamton are both potential tests as well, being optional. Would the player make this choice? Each of them have other variables effecting that choice set up as well (you can see more clearly in spamton) but i'll leave that to interpretation.
Kris is the variable, but not really. The player is. Kris is actively fighting against the experiment, even creating their own dark world to try and stop the tests. Think about it, the dark worlds become unstable when there are too many of them, and kris would probably rather have their own world then one designed specifically for a test. Kris knows about this test too, given chapter 1 and its ending. (IDK about you, but if suddenly my feet and hands and voice were moving without my consent, and I possibly had another voice in my head, I would burry my hand into my chest to get rid of it.) Kris knows were it is when player control halts. (If your arm went limp, you would suddenly be much more aware about it.) Of course, Kris is the only in game character aware, so the only one backlashing.
The experimentor. The tree spots are the places where the experiment is being overseen, being between space. The egg is random and unstable, and I am not sure how it relates. One thing for sure, it is foreign. One thing for sure, characters are bing directly influenced to run the experiment. However, there does seem to be little hints of gaster being in direct conflict, or more likely, working with a higher force. Who? Toby. Let me explain. During the start you design your vessel, only to get discarded. Either Gaster thought a vessel would be necessary, but toby found a better solution, or the vessel was being designed as a failsafe. (Given kris's behavior, the latter seems likely.) We then see some text that is ludicrously out of character for the meticulous, calm, and collected scientist. We also see toby in the computer lab during chapter one, also causing the car crash in chapter 2, essentially helping the experiment remain as focused and contained as possible. This is a giant leap to make. I reconize that. However this makes just enough sense to me.
No one specifically is out to cause the roaring, and while it is plausible, I don'tthink one specific entity is going to cause it. It's going to be a combination of gaster running the experiment, and kris fighting against it. (This would create a commentary on conflict, which I think Toby would be a fan of including.)
Hear me out, gaster wants to know how players think, in order to either
1. Understand the world better
2. Cross the fourth wall
3. Finish his studies on determination (he must've deducted that they come from the outside source known as the player)
4. Understand the relationship between the player and characters
5. Science for the sake of science
6. Protect somthing, which is unclear at present.
7. See what happens when somthing with a soul gets another soul, a soul with the determination required for player control. (Given this, we have four soul types. Monster souls, boss monster souls, human souls, and player souls. This also makes sense in undertale, as we always seem to be more determined than anything, despite fighting a goat flower with 6 human souls.)
I think this experiment theory holds some weight. I'm very interested to see what you guys think.
23:18 What if those glow shards are part of him, or crystalized monster soul from being shattered...
Also the whole not enough determination thing holds up from Undertales lore meaning monsters lack determination unlike deltarune monsters, who can hold it better... Gaster probably has the maximum amount undertale monsters can maintain which isn't nearly enough to do this consistently...
i Cant wait for toby to actucally reveal who the knight is and its Just some goofy character with glasses on or something
NO NO NO HEATS FLAMSEMAN IS THE KNIGHT
Absolutely crazy nutjob theory of mine, but what if Toriel is the Knight. I think the biggest hang up I have with most Knight theories are the location of the first dark fountain. From what I can tell so far, someone has to be physically in a location to make a fountain. And for me, that dismisses a large amount of candidates instantly. Not anyone can just walk into a school completely unnoticed. Theres a few other small pieces of evidence here and there, but for a motive I could imagine Toriel is doing it for a little escapism. She's recently divorced, one of her children is off at college, and the other has been acting differently as of this week. Perhaps she's just making these worlds not realizing that she could be bringing on the roaring. The biggest hole in the theory I've noticed myself is that the timing for Toriel to make the second fountain is extremely tight, as its implied the fountain was made while Berdly and Noelle were in the library, meaning she had to sprint over to the library after her conversation with Alphys and make the fountain. If this theory is correct, then I have a prediction for chapter 3. Toriel wont be a big part of the chapter, Undyne will. And Toriel will be missing, using the excuse of sleeping through the night for why she wasnt around.
Small objection:
We have actually no idea if it'll be undyne, napstablook, or technically a secret third police member
...its gonna be undyne.
Problem is, I don't think Toriel's personality fits the Knight, especially given where the fountains have been open so far. The first fountain has been opened in the school, which means the Knight is willing to endanger children, which I doubt Toriel is the type of person to do that.
Also, the idea that the Knight doesn't know about the Roaring is disproven by their very title: "The *Roaring* Knight"
@@UnoriginalJokester Titles dont necessarily imply that. I mean, from a storytelling standpoint, your absolutely right, but from a logistic standpoint, technically the knight coulda gotten the title "The Roaring Knight" by... roaring. That'd be really lame if that were the answer, so I don't think that's the answer, but technically, it could be.
I will say though, my points basically mean nothing because we absolutely should be caring about what makes sense in a storytelling perspective and not a logistic perspective
I dont think it is because... why is she using this as escapism if she isn't neither there to scape?
0:37 you can see how much work went into this video because theres only 4 months now
The Knight was the friends we made along the way. Literally.
Or it's rouxls
okay this comment will list every piece of overanalyzing in this video.
10:20 I feel like this is a bit of overanalyzing a game for having a clock be at a specific time but okay
12:01 yes
feel free to reply with any more or show criticism and stuff.
If you are right, it’s gonna be great, and if you are wrong, it’s gonna be hilarious so win-win.
Its Kris. We lose control of him at the end of each Chapter so he could make a Fountain after he gets rid of you. And we know The Knight is the one making fountaine.
nice video! i love that you brought up that it's possible that there are multiple instances of gaster present in deltarune - the version of him from undertale, and the version of him native to deltarune.
my one nitpick with your evidence is that i don't really think gaster has much of a reason to covet human souls anymore. he seems to have been removed from his home reality, so even if he did obtain it, i don't think he'd have a way to deliver it back to the underground.
other than that, good video.
My guess is that he plans on using the soul to become whole, or something like that.
Kinda like how Tom a riddle tried to use Ginny’s soul for a similar purpose
Good theory, but honestly i think the idea that gaster exists as an actual character in deltarune and lived a real life as a rejected teacher a bit silly.
I like the idea that the knight is more so a pawn that gaster controls more appealing considering the themes of deltarune and gaster’s character kind of existing outside of the game.
Its the mimic
I was replaying Deltarune to prepare a new save file, and I took some time to think about some words said in Chapter 1. The four kings locked Jevil, but only then does the Knight appear. However, Jevil talks about the Knight when defeated. Either the one he met was the Knight, or the one he met told him about the Knight; which then means that someone either knows of the events that are about to happen, or The Knight just existed for a long time...
Honestly, it is still mind blowing that we are about to get three chapters at the same time, that is going to be too much information
I love the way this video is formated, It made me giggle a few times :3
To me it's
Papyrus is the roaring knight, the big boi knight
Kris is A knight, just some dude
I hate to say this before anyone complains in the replies DUDE IS A GENDER NEUTRAL PRONOUN TO ME
8:39 typer 666 is wingdings font used in UT, but in DR , another font is used during survey, the typer is 667.
Both are used.
@@matmajthm3222 I just watched Jaru's video explaining this better. Really didn't expect to see typer 666 without wingdings font.
A mega theory from the channel that brought the 3rd skeleton brother video, hellll yesss this reminded me to subscribe thank you for the content :)
I have a Dess video in the works that I think you find... very, very interesting ;)
i love the title lmao "I KNOW WHO THE KNIGHT IS!!!!!!!!!!"
You've made a very good quick Gaster rundown.
10:14 Also, nitpick: This means the hands are pointing to 6:30.
but the number they are pointing to is 66, not necessarily the time.
I cant believe this is the first time I hear the thing about Egg in Wing Dings omg
Omg I love how in detail you go on the information you give!
It's SpongeBob
Yeah i got the meme but also what would toby fox do with like the he has complete troll he could just change the name of au this something else that will be amazing for me at least i do not like the word au just because it like weird sometimes deltarune more felt like a at alternate timeline i like using that word instead
I think Gaster isn't the knight cause acording to his followers he was shattered across time and space (dunno exactly what that means but i guess he doesn't really have a physichal form) he's deffinitaly associated with the knight but i don't think he is the knight i am one of the people who believe that Papyrus is the knight, here's the little evidence i can give you: Toriel said in undertale that she allways wanted to be a teacher and what is her job in deltarune? Exactly, a teacher. Now i wanna point out real quick that it doesn't work the same on anyone else we saw like Napstablook but those characters didn't really wanted a different job. Now back to the Papyrus point, he like Toriel wanted a certain job (i guess you can call it a job) and it being a royal guard wich king's guards are knights so if it works for Papyrus the same way it did to Tori, that means he would be the KNIGHT!!!
Thank you for reading my theory and sorry it's so long 🙃💀
Lancer is Gaster
I just wanted to say that I really enjoy your videos. Its refreshing to see new theorys about undertale/deltarune that aren't repetetive.
>Pov: be Zarla
>Create psycophathic scientist who drilled holes into the hands of two illegal biological clones of him.
>Make him hot.
This is very well put together! I'm also really glad that you just go with the fact that the intro character is just straight up Gaster, or a piece of him. So many people lately have been wringing their hands saying that "technically" we don't know for sure who that is. And like, sure that is true. But also he uses the Another Him, he talks like Gaater, and has all these associations with 6. It's Gaster in some form.
I personally like to think that Gaster is some sort of deity/puppet master over all of this. Hell, you can go deeper into the chess symbolism in this game and say that Gaster is playing chess with all the characters acting as the pieces, including the Knight.
Plus, if chess theory holds up then we would be fighting the Knight in chapter five, and Gaster definitely feels like endgame stuff. Chapters 5 and 6 material.
For my thoughts on the knight, i could just go with the easy answer and say Father Alvin. He's definitely the most popular choice these days, but what's the fun in that. My completely out there theory that I'll be so happy if I'm right is Mad Mew Mew. Or maybe she is Mad Dummy in DR rn. Or maybe something else if she doesn't even have the dummy. Idk i just think she's neat
You deserve way more subs, this video is so high quality
"but.." with the hands pulling the screen apart
did we just get goatse'd
7:53 21:08 I think "The Angel's Heaven" from the prophecy is implied to be The Roaring (since it's what the three heroes appeared to banish), not something opposed to it, so this point doesn't make much sense imo
WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT, you just made me realise something. If your idea of Gaster wanting to do something with a "human soul" is true, it would make sense as to why Gaster could be trying to cause the roaring to create a connection (player with Kris through SOUL), but it's also very possible that Gaster is more of a server manager of the entire game, especially since the original demo was called SURVEY. I don't know what to make of it yet, there's still not enough information due to only two chapters being out, but I am totally considering a potential very fourth-wall breaking narrative in which Gaster is a character managing the application "DELTARUNE" while Toby himself has everything planned out and is the narrator, along with the Annoying Dog.
Unrelated* but I'm also thinking of the possibility that DR characters aren't UT characters, but vice versa, it's just that due to the happenings in the timeline and the release dates of either of the games made almost all of us consider that UT is the OG game while DR is the secondary game, even though I think Toby has been working on the plot of DR for much longer? Almost makes me think UT might be a prototype, especially since it's existed for so long and UT has had foreshadowing elements hinting at what the future will bring, but that's something Toby knows and I can just speculate.
*the "unrelated" part immediately made me remember it's an anagram for both "undertale" and "delta rune"; not important but it made me chuckle
The "Server Manager" idea is supported by the alternate save/load screen you get in chapter 1 if you access it before beating the chapter. That features a very simple green and black "Old computer looking" menu where the voice from the Goner Maker section describes the save/load/copy/delete actions in ominous language.
Toby created Gaster and the Deltarune/Undertale multiverse.
Gaster created "SURVEY_PROGRAM", the PLAYER plays through the game so Gaster can steal your SOUL. Probably so he can become ""god"".
Man Gaster being an existential cognitohazard would be very cool.
It's a game within a game, within a game... and Kris is the Knight.
Cool you made a second video, definitely subscribing now, especially with the information that you are making this a series. Keep up the good work.
Its just dess yelling LET ME IN LET ME INNNNNNN
the spongebob icon combined with the intricate theory makes the viewing experience 10 times better
This was aweosme! I love litsening to theories and cant wait for the next ones in this series!
Also this is so underated for how indepth it goes! Its very well put together and does well at explaining the thoughts behind it
(Goodness gracious this comment sounds so dry lmao)
It's ur mom
17:38 and the closet is the perfect place to hide a dead body... berdly snowgrave anyone?
For I will not forget these lost souls. I will hold them and save them, will you? For everyone else, it gets darker yet darker. And yet I welcome it. Sometimes shadows linger in the dark. Sometimes you have to go to the places where it gets dark. Sometimes in those places, you can find information in answers that are very interesting. But don't take it from me. Take it from the man who speaks in hands. For beware, the players in the other world. Listen, this time to the man who speaks in hands, trello law. Law For I do not know yet who's friend or foe? But still, my spirits remain high, will the rest of the world remain slow? And low But still, I sing these songs to myself. Then again, it's rude to interrupt. Someone who's watching and listening to everything. Tralala
23:01 beautiful editing
This was insane ... And great. Gaster is not the knight, but he is definitely instrumental to the workings of deltarune. I can see the first bit of that being true, where gaster was a teacher
Neat analysis video! It's interesting to see someone explore a villainous scientist approach to Gaster!
Thanks for uploading!
“They” or “it” like they dont know what it is. This takes me back to undertale where muffet mentions that she saw a shapeshifter
This video was incredibly well made and constructed greatly. I actually can’t wait for the next episode I’m hooked
Guys it's obviously Kris, it's literally revealed at the end of chapter 2 why is it considered a mistery?
0:30 what does pulling a Scott Cawthon mean in that case ?
Kris guaranteed for literal plot purposes.
10:10 semantic alert and disclaimer. the picture shows left, up, up the audio says up, up, right and the knight graph shows left, up, up. I'm assuming the small flub was do to a recording blooper. I'm only saying this to just acknowledge it as it tripped me up for a moment. this is not intended as an insult or humiliation.
Somewhere else, it's raining. Do you ever think about a world? Where you don't exist that can go on perfectly fine without you. The thought scares most, but it doesn't mean it's merely just another existence. As long as I'm real to me, that's all that matters. Tell me though, is it possible to miss someone? You never even met to feel rain on your skin when you've never even felt it in that area. Only time will tell, but remember stay determined For the shadows linger Near And hold on to these Lost Souls Because for everywhere else around us is darker yet darker. Believe me, though, does this experiment seem very, very interesting? But to you too, think tell me.
A channel I've never seen before with 371 subs keeps appearing in my recommended.
Make it 372.
Oh no i literally have to beat undertale genocide routes when deltarune ends and oh god i am not ready for this
Toby Fox is the Knight. He is literally the one creating the dark worlds by making the game and driving Spamton and Jevil insane by writing their characters.
So, I’m universe, it would be the annoying dog
I think that in a timeline as asreal dreamer won and wants to destroy another world
the knight is so obviously the rock with the southern accent from the ruins
I'm going to say one more character that has way to much evidence that I think HAS to be real. Papyrus, look at any theory that explains this.
I will be doing a video of Papyrus because there's a surprising amount of evidence of him!
it's interesting how so many characters have been completely hidden so far. the man behind the tree, the strange someone that met jevil and spamton, the knight, gaster, the titans and the angel
chris chan jumpscare at the end everybody watch out
curse the trolls, peace to everybody else
Do you realize if the health department of green county see those videos you put on the damn internet... 👴
Man... the world would be A LOT easier if the roaring knight was confirmed to be a they.
yeah now that I think about it spamton has the same motivation as a large majority of undertale characters to fight you most notably mettaton
I have a suspicion it’s Jevil. With the power that is stored in the Devilsknife, he could possibly do it.
It is actually the pipis :shocked_dude_meme:
It's Oberon Smog
wait I actually kinda love the idea of there being a deltarune equivalent of Gaster (and the man behind the tree being Deltarune Gaster and the Goner Maker voice being the more traditional Undertale Gaster)
papyrus would have a good motive for being the knight. i mean, all of those darkners worshipping him, he'd be SO POPULAR!!!
If you intend to run through other Knight candidates, then are you familiar with the post "Reappraising Father Alvin"? Full disclosure: I wrote it, so my endorsement is biased, but Spookydood gave it a shout-out as a source on Alvin Knight theorycrafting.
I'll keep that in mind! You might get a shout out from my irrelevant self!
So yesterday I was looking for a piece from one of my old jewelry making sets from when I was younger, and I thought to myself "it's like the pieces have been scattered across time and space!" Then it occurred to me that maybe if Gaster is a Darkner, his Light World counterpart is one of those craft sets, or maybe a Lego set where all the pieces got scattered around or something. idk if this makes sense but just something I was thinking about.
it's either papyrus, gaster, or a new character
Joe Biden?????????
@@Gusthebusisreal it’s ken carson
Istg this is better than game theory's video on gaster lol
Guys
Its rouxls kaard
Uhm... Spamton, and Jevil's stories are mentioned in game.
Jevil was the jester for the Chaos King, one day he did something the king didn't command and was locked up for years and went insane with only his jokes to keep him going.
Spamton was a highly respected salesman in Queen's kingdom, one day, because of something he did, I believe it was an item malfunction reported to Queen, caused Queen to get so pissed off she had two guards throw spamton into acid, which caused his body to melt, and his sane personality to leave him.
(I can't exactly remember, it's been a hot minute since I played both chapters.)
It's me. I was the knight all along!!!!
no IM the knight
prob the shop guy frfr
Thank you for this,
The canon & fanon versions of Gaster have gotten out of hand a tad,
Not quite convinced of the theory that he is the knight but still interesting,
Keep this up , good show!
Very, very interesting 😈
Maybe Gaster invented the dark world as a way to test determination. One thing about the dark world we don't know about is how/ what the darkness that makes the world is. It isn't your average darkness. It is.... advanced darkness. All joking aside, the darkness could be a way of taking determination and using it to reshape the world. But the people that do have trauma/ darkness in their souls that taint this power. When kris opened his, light poured out like the light of his soul that then became dark, with shadow pouring like blood pouring from a wound, darkness from a wounded soul. The dark worlds, in a way, are reflections of the people that enter them after all, resonating with specific characters to help them get over that trauma. Like with chapter 1 and susie's aggression problems and chapter 2 with noelle and her troubles (specifically indicated by her reliance of the internet as shown in the spampton sweapstakes). Likely we might see Kris/ toriel's troubles show in chapter 3
For the roaring knight...Dess and Gaster are likely trapped in the dark world with no way to escape. Maybe the roaring knight and us, the player, were actually contacted by gaster in a realm between the light and dark world, to find a way to save those lost to the darkness with no way out. That would give motivation for common suspects like papyrus and father alvin. They are nice monsters and generally non violent or malicious. The reasoning for making more dark worlds, then, is then to go look for dess and gaster and maybe help other lightners overcome their struggles too. As they are lightners, they can make dark fountains to enter dark worlds, but without a human soul, they cannot close the fountains. Thus, they would risk causing the roaring by making too many fountains while searching. Which I personally think would happen by accident, making it more tragic and emotional in the long run.
13:47
Wait where's that from? I never gotten any sinister vibes from him nor have I heard any evil things about him, from what I could gather is that he's just like any other monster, generally friendly, maybe having a bad view of humanity at best due to their wrongs... At worst he could be reckless, cause how the heck do you fall into your own creation unless you didn't bother with guard rails and a net...
The Knight is the friends we made along the way.