Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S4:E12

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  • @SkateClipsAndTips
    @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +444

    I had random shutdowns during stress testing and narrowed it down to a power delivery issue. It was my psu taking a dump on me, replaced it and the issue was gone. All thanks to this playlist for helping me narrow it down. Love this playlist

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Also my gpu slot tab also is kind of broken and you right it still slots in, just you have the risk of your gpu slightly coming out of the slot if moving your rig

    • @GregSalazar
      @GregSalazar  ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That's awesome!

    • @Remu-
      @Remu- ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SkateClipsAndTips It shouldn't fall out if you screw it in. The plastic tab is hardly something that would keep it in place.

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Remu- omg I'm an idiot, I forgot about the screws xD

    • @elusivelectron
      @elusivelectron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@GregSalazarI hate when people don't use punctuation.

  • @HEXSIDE
    @HEXSIDE ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Friend had the very same issue very recently, but i told him, check temps. Turns out his Ryzen 5 3600 was running at 90+ as well on the stock AMD cooler. New cooler fixed the entire issue!

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeesh, that's bad

    • @WirrWicht
      @WirrWicht ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So, his cooler was defective? This never happened to me with AMD stock coolers.

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@WirrWicht I have a feeling it probably wasn't fully contacting the cpu

    • @HEXSIDE
      @HEXSIDE ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@WirrWicht Noooo, he just didnt replace the thermal paste in a long time, it dried up and thats basically why it went that high

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HEXSIDE ah ok

  • @mikerl489
    @mikerl489 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm almost positive these components are from an ASUS pre-built PC, the G15CE-B11. I recognize it because I bought the same one back during the GPU shortages of late 2020-2021, it was basically the only way to get a 3080 at the time. BIOS screen showing "G15CE" confirmed it. That's why he's got a B560 paired with an i7-11700KF, with the inadequate CPU cooler and the mismatched RAM. The green stick ram is what came with the system originally. It was a great machine for me, but only after a case swap and CPU cooler upgrade. With the original case and CPU cooler it ran REALLY hot. The only fans in the original case were the one on this poor CPU cooler, and a 92mm exhaust fan in the back.

  • @J03130
    @J03130 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    be quiet did well to sponsor you because i can say they've hooked at least one person. everything they make looks great especially that case. something really clean about it

    • @samimermer1982
      @samimermer1982 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only cablemanagement is a bit difficult without channels, but still better than most cases. It has an argb cable you need to connect on your board and an sata connector. If you do not have argb you can still use the case prefixed lighting. Connecting the ssd sata cables is an hassle if you do not know the easy way which is connect the cables first and then put the be quiet logo on.
      It is such a beautiful case. I have the fx and my son has the dx version. Made a build for my cousin with the dx version aswell.
      Btw. Connect one of the fans on channel 1 on the fan hub(if you have the fx) to control the case fan curves on your bios or software.

  • @RVail623
    @RVail623 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    The bios version shown at 14:15 is 2.05, while the latest bios version shown on Asus's web site is 2.16. That and the mis-matched DDR4 is a likely source of stability issues. You may need to freeze-frame & at an increased screen resolution to view it, but the two memory speeds are identified as: 3200 MHz & 2400 MHz. However, the overall system memory is apparently overclocking the 2400 MHz speed memory to 3200 MHz speed: not good. Simply updating the bios firmware may have been enough to fix the issue, although still not a good idea to have mis-matched memory speeds installed.

    • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
      @DuneRunnerEnterprises ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably!!

    • @EestiGaming
      @EestiGaming ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You're most likely correct. I ran into similar issues (bios freezing and winload errors) on an X99 system a few weeks ago, and a BIOS update was what ended up fixing it.

    • @Stefan-bf2gb
      @Stefan-bf2gb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree 3 Dimm 's - nogo...

    • @anthonyrobu8633
      @anthonyrobu8633 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      while the general rule of thumb of mismatch ram being a no-no, that didn't appear to be the problem here. As originally once the half seated gpu was corrected it loaded and ran without any dimm errors. It wasn't until the new cpu cooler was installed that it started throwing dimm error and boot cycling issue presented as an issue.

    • @RVail623
      @RVail623 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonyrobu8633 Did Greg try booting with only 2x8GB of the (faster speed) original dimms? Maybe the better option would have been to use some other brand of CPU cooler that wouldn't interfere with those 2x DDR4 dimms installed.

  • @duckpwnd
    @duckpwnd ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Greg is a wise man. He is known by many names such as The Destroyer of Dust, Mr. Microcenter, The King of Cable Management, The Banisher of Blue Screens, The Thasher of Thernal Throttling, The Baron of be Quiet!, etc.
    edit: Actually, I think The Maestro of Microcenter sounds better

    • @BentoBox487
      @BentoBox487 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I love all of these names, but "The Baron of be Quiet!" is my favorite. Great job! Lol. Got my like!

    • @UlrichLeland
      @UlrichLeland ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The King of not turning on the psu or plug socket.

    • @roppongiful
      @roppongiful ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Remover Of That Annoying Watermark

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@UlrichLeland I often forget to turn on the PSU and then wonder wtf happened. Especially since it was working 15 minutes ago

    • @kevorkyijan118
      @kevorkyijan118 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Mr Refurbisher of Functional Case😅

  • @NoFailer
    @NoFailer ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I am surprised his tech savvy friends did not check the temps. Also those poor 3200 Mhz sticks were running at 2400 Mhz all this time :(

    • @Nagalior
      @Nagalior ปีที่แล้ว +55

      anyone who can name at least 2 computer components is "tech savvy" for people who knows nothing about computer.

    • @Animeop-1519
      @Animeop-1519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Nagaliortrue

    • @astrayamatu
      @astrayamatu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nagalior yep thats so treu

    • @iconoclast485
      @iconoclast485 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dunning- Kruger at it's finest.

    • @dennisphillips9089
      @dennisphillips9089 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      His "tech savy" friends probobly told him to send it to Gregg for a sweet upgrade.

  • @-Brunnen-G
    @-Brunnen-G ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I think we ,as PC builders, make building a PC sound super easy. We tend to be a more detailed bunch. People with little to no experience overlook the details required to get a PC running correctly and as efficiently as possible which leads to issues such as these. I think we need to be more adamant in explaining these details and making sure they understand them before attempting to build their own.

    • @yetischmetti9529
      @yetischmetti9529 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I got into PC building almost 2 years ago, and I think some pc builders make it sound too simple, at least that was my experience when I made my first build. I think it's not as difficult as a new builder might think it is, but it definitely isn't just plugging some things in and getting a working PC. I appreciate you noting that.

    • @danimayb
      @danimayb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yetischmetti9529 Indeed. In principle, it is straightforward.. You are basically seating/connecting/plugging things in. But in reality it's not as simple and comes with caveats or possible headaches lol and certain ways to do things the right way. But like anything, Once you get used to it, it does become straightforward.. But still carries possible headaches.

  • @nubsandbolts920
    @nubsandbolts920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @GregSalazar very nice of you tuning up this customer hitting everybase that you could'. Regarding the memory for the DDR4 i had a similar issue with my new custom prebuilt that i was using to re-learn as upgrading/swapping parts, when i had this mobo and dimms which work perfectly in another rig i gavce to a friend. I thought all was lost as i didn't know much and was in a boot loop after other errors, mine was a bad mem oclock which i dont bother with today aside from xmp.. but it looks very similar, I booted after a long cmos reset(battery out) then put in only one dimm in the slot booted with that after getting another mem light.. again same cl 16 ddr4 new worked graeat! Now if i do want to mess with it again i got new cl14 3600 mhz with a sexy dual bios/cmos button havin msi mobo but i think ill still just xmp/xpo lol. Thanks for the assist in learning over the last 2 years.

  • @Ladioz
    @Ladioz ปีที่แล้ว +40

    BEQUIET to the rescue.... what a big difference. So much cleaner... quieter... airflow... well done Greg mate

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want quieter fans, but they not daisy chainable and are pricey. Noctua is the quietest, but is too pricey

    • @Ladioz
      @Ladioz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkateClipsAndTips Silent Wings 4 PWM are the most quiet fans ive ever used. Try them.

    • @luvingyouu
      @luvingyouu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SkateClipsAndTips get an arctic p12 pst (120mm) or p14 pst (140mm) 5 pack and you will love them, extremely quiet and move a bunch of air

    • @RichWhiteUM
      @RichWhiteUM ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luvingyouu I will concur. Arctic has the best bang for buck fans and great customer service, if something should go wrong with them. They're also daisy chainable.

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luvingyouu I have 2 P14's in my system, love them, as my my 2 exhaust fans they Arctic f12 bionix fans and they have a hum to them at higher rpm's

  • @Fiberoptiks
    @Fiberoptiks ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You REALLY hooked the viewer up this time, that GSkill looks killer against the cooler on those side profile shots

    • @-Noble
      @-Noble ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, dude got a nice and quality case, beefy cooler, and that trident z royal really got me jealous
      dude got a premium build now
      feels a little sus though

    • @GregSalazar
      @GregSalazar  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-Noble People always say this. "Looks sus." "Seems like he planted this hardware in there." "He just wanted free stuff." We don't guarantee _any_ upgrades, let alone _fixes_ hahah.

    • @-Noble
      @-Noble ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregSalazar true, but that just always runs through my head when I see some of these
      hope it wasn't though, as some people who really needed it could have used it instead (as far as actually "needing" something for a gaming pc goes) :)

  • @pdandersondo46
    @pdandersondo46 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I truly love the thoroughness of your repairs. Very much appreciated. I have yet to see a vid from you unworthy of a thumbs up!

  • @MyWasteOfTime
    @MyWasteOfTime ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just think how hard this is for those of us that don't have extra hardware to test with! Thank you for this series!

    • @NonLegitNation2
      @NonLegitNation2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i've gotten into the habit of when I upgrade parts I will sell the old parts and actually buy some lower end parts to have as backups. I bought a RX580 incase my 3080 craps out on me. Bought a 16gb kit of ddr4 incase I have issues with my 64gb kit. I have a Ryzen 2600 incase my 5900x has problems. The only thing I don't have replacements for is a mobo and psu and I'm planning on buying a cheap b450 mobo next week. For psu I'm not sure, maybe one of those cheap silverstone psus without any kind of energy rating.

    • @julianpearce6869
      @julianpearce6869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NonLegitNation2 i always hang onto some stuff and a backup myself. plus have a whole 2nd lower end PC i built off used and leftover parts as a precaution

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick ปีที่แล้ว

      G'day, You don't need a Cupboard full of components or spend $$$$ to have some extra hardware to test for most basic problems,
      just a $10-$20 GPU like the XFX Greg uses, GT710 or even an old Quadro & the cheapest Green RAM Stick won't cost much or take up lots of storage space.
      Then following Gregs Testing Procedures in a relative FoF video can get you sorted in many situations.

  • @BrownStain_Silver
    @BrownStain_Silver ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This one was really fun. You totally transformed the owner's PC! It looks amazing now!

  • @RuruFIN
    @RuruFIN ปีที่แล้ว +70

    When it's a new Fix or Flop episode, I can already give a thumbs up before watching.

    • @lentas4921
      @lentas4921 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have cat on my home. And i am from finland

  • @CommanderBradAS
    @CommanderBradAS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had an issue with my display out just turning off randomly. Did some troubleshooting that I learned from this series and with the help of the discord Found out that my top PCIE slot was toast. Was able to send it back for RMA and am currently waiting for my replacement. Thanks for everything.

  • @trick0502
    @trick0502 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The ram was trying to run at 3200 because of the order swap. Those green pcb stick couldn’t keep.

  • @TheXeroLink
    @TheXeroLink ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always here for the new episodes. More food for my brain!

  • @fanofentropy2280
    @fanofentropy2280 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've played around with mis-matched ddr4 kits and when using 2 sticks, A2 and B2 are the main slots, but if you run 4 sticks, A1 & B1 take the lead and determine the timings.

  • @imglidinhere
    @imglidinhere ปีที่แล้ว

    I have built shoddier PCs in my long winded history of being a nerd. This PC would be considered 'spiffy' by my standards something like, 10 years ago!
    It's a lesson we ALL need to learn the hard way (though you definitely help) that you do not skimp on the PSU or the Case in any PC build. A bad case can ruin an otherwise golden PC and a bad PSU can... well... we've all experienced what bad power supplies do. If you haven't seen/dealt/suffered that side of things, GN has a wonderful video on some cheapo gigabyte models *exploding.*
    Glad you're able to help out someone else here Greg! :D You rock!

  • @titan557
    @titan557 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy Friday Greg, all viewers.

  • @shawner7340
    @shawner7340 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love these videos, helps me learn without having to go through the headache of trouble shooting. even though i have 2 builds with issues i need to fix lol

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips ปีที่แล้ว

      PC troubleshooting is annoying in general with the new windows. I hate how complicated windows is, if you can't sign in you can't troubleshoot

  • @unnerdboricua3178
    @unnerdboricua3178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Greg!
    I just wanted to thank you for your time and effort in doing these videos. I have learned so much from you, and you have saved me so much money you have no idea. I live in Puerto Rico and PC stores charge over $150 just to check a PC you can imagine the rest. I have fixed my friends PC's and mine. Also, I haven't been subscribed for that long but I watched all your older videos. Your content has helped with my anxiety and depression. Thank you Greg!
    Also, love your taste on watches I have a couple of Seikos and 1 Omega Speed Master i inherited. Thank's again ♥️

  • @eugene7173
    @eugene7173 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Chicken piece grilling on the cpu is FUNNY.🤣

  • @arminius1972
    @arminius1972 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greg, people in and around Orlando are very lucky to have someone like you do what you do. I have learned a lot watching your videos, so thank you for that.

  • @TRD_2zz
    @TRD_2zz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Updating the BIOS may have helped memory compatibility also, but mixing kits is never advised anyway.

  • @nousername2932
    @nousername2932 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must say, as an IT tech that has degree's, your older videos were cringe but your new vids are amazing... gg man, you've evolved greatly.

    • @GregSalazar
      @GregSalazar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think it took me actually making it _through_ engineering school to finally realize how little I truly knew. I was an arrogant hot-head when I was younger. Still far from perfect OFC, but learning every day :-)

    • @nousername2932
      @nousername2932 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lazar well good job because this video was great. I've been watching your vids for a while but I am now finding myself watching the whole vid... that's something. I NEVER watch full IT vids except for Linus :). I actually started my career taking laptops, macbooks, imacs and pc's apart to diag them. Loved it but it's a dirty job. I cannot talk about what I had seen but let's just say the police were involved.

  • @Addeatt
    @Addeatt ปีที่แล้ว

    How comforting. I picked up a 6th generation HP rig and have gone through hours of testing with the same result of 3 long beeps, 2 short beeps. I've gone through all the support pages over at HP and have given up for the day. Hopefully something sticks tomorrow.

  • @Kacheng_3080
    @Kacheng_3080 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The 2 RAM kits were rated at different frequency shown on the bios at 14:24 (3200Mhz and 2400Mhz respectively) so maybe that was causing the instability after the case transplant?

    • @Shadowdane
      @Shadowdane ปีที่แล้ว +24

      yah if he applied XMP. it's probably using whichever XMP profile is in the primary slots. When you have mismatched kits you have to stick to the JEDEC speeds 2133Mhz. Or tune the ram manually to the lowest speed/timings supported by both kits.

    • @RichWhiteUM
      @RichWhiteUM ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's quite possible. The rule back in the day when I did PC building and repair was like with like. Keep the same speed, CL, and if possible brand. You can mix size but speed and CL should be kept the same to minimize any potential issues. EDIT: Keep in mind that motherboards will set memory to the base set for that board. To get memory to the manufacturer's listed speed is actually an overclock. If one set is rated at 2400 and the other is rated to 3200, turning on XMP at a rated speed can cause instability with the lower rated set if you set it to that of the higher rated set. If mixing speed, set the speed of both sets to that of the lowest rated.
      With that said, I have also seen issues like what Greg hinted at where it would cause the system to not boot, if you swapped one set of dimms to the other set of slots. Swapping the dimms back around would fix it. I've seen that happen even if you were following the rule I stated above. When possible, I just prefer to use 2 dimms that equal the total amount of memory wanted for the system (ie. if wanting 32gb get 16gbx2 set instead of 8gbx4). If that means spending a little more to upgrade down the road, so be it. I'd rather minimize potential headaches than worry about a few dollars in budget.
      If I were to make a guess based solely on what is seen in the video, I'd say Greg was right and for whatever reason the motherboard wasn't happy about the memory slots being flipped. That, when combined with your observation, tells me that Greg was best off doing the dimm swap that he did in the end. It was the easiest fix with the least amount of headache involved.

    • @Masterninja2321
      @Masterninja2321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But he didn’t enable XMP till after he put the tridents in

    • @BobStoneBoi
      @BobStoneBoi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is what happened. You can see above the ram specs it shows 32gb of 3200mhz. Took the rates speed of the primary slot.

    • @Jwalker76
      @Jwalker76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greg did say it was hanging in bios. Maybe he was unable to change xmp.

  • @jasonstumbaugh1893
    @jasonstumbaugh1893 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man! Also love the Yugioh cards in the background. Keep it up bro.

  • @leoconway
    @leoconway 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the new look after the upgrades.

  • @Crazytrain334
    @Crazytrain334 ปีที่แล้ว

    greg you outright nearly gave this man a brand new pc i wish i lived near Florida so you could fix my pc but ty so much for what you do good man

  • @Dyonivan
    @Dyonivan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had this exact issue with my (then) brand new computer. 12600KF + RTX 3080. Random but consistent shutoffs in games, but I could run benchmarks for 3 hours without a single shutdown. Turned out to be the PSU's tight OCP tolerances were shutting down the computer from transient power spikes from the 3080. I was using an EVGA G5 850w PSU, and switched to a Seasonic Focus Platinum 1000w PSU. Solved my problems. I think benchmarks don't cause transient power spikes like playing games does, and therefore it's hard to diagnose or recreate with benchmarks.

  • @WrexBF
    @WrexBF ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That RAM issue is why you shouldn't mismatch RAM sticks. It can cause all kinds of compatibility issues. Even with XMP disabled where the sticks use the same JEDEC timings, only the primary timings are standardized by JEDEC. Sub-timings are not.

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Ram testing can be a pain and time consuming better to just not mic different kits like this unless you know what you're doing and are prepared for pain 😂

  • @Evilcitizen
    @Evilcitizen ปีที่แล้ว

    Its great you had the parts on hand to be able to fix the heating and structure issue. Bequiet comes in clutch.

  • @TheMyKillClan
    @TheMyKillClan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really can't stress how amazing this fix or flop is. he's making a living off helping his viewers! I know he makes other videos (i miss the pc cleaning videos) but this is becoming his bread and butter and it's amazing helping us is $ for him.

  • @drmcweazel
    @drmcweazel ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, hell yeah. I get home and there's a new Fix or Flop! Radical.

  • @liberteus
    @liberteus ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam doesn't think i love your fix or flop videos and won't notify me :(
    Anyways, good thing i was able to find it because it's another great video!
    Thanks Greg!

  • @shamsalfaisal
    @shamsalfaisal ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally get to see the series again.

  • @jacobp4153
    @jacobp4153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow you hooked this guy up! Good stuff Greg!

  • @j.p.h.8126
    @j.p.h.8126 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tech savy friends part make me laugh lol.

  • @TheDotTim
    @TheDotTim ปีที่แล้ว

    This series has taught me so much about computers, it led to me building my own and if i ever had any problems i knew a video here that had the same problem and a potential fix for it. I've even begun helping my brother build his and troubleshoot it, thank you so much for these videos, they are the best on youtube IMO :D

  • @rowdyrod
    @rowdyrod 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic troubleshooting as always! This is a priceless series.

  • @Bigsteve187
    @Bigsteve187 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there just a quick stop by loved the video as always but I just wanted to say.... you truly are a lovely person and very generous with your parts and time ..that's all have a brilliant and lovely day and thank you for your hard work and videos they have helped and I'm sureany others aswell 🎉🎉❤❤

  • @mb14u2c2
    @mb14u2c2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jesus who else thinks TH-cam is getting out of control with ads every 4 minutes…. 6 ads in one video is ridiculous

  • @louisglen1653
    @louisglen1653 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am having a new computer made and will be using Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 for my cooler simply because you like the product so much!.

  • @thefallengaming9556
    @thefallengaming9556 ปีที่แล้ว

    been busy feels good to sit back and watch some videos i hope you have been doing well

  • @zacharyberridge7239
    @zacharyberridge7239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the same issue with some bad ddr4. It would crash in the strangest way. First, the audio would get... odd, then it would crash completely. Swapped them out, and problem solved!

  • @denault3985
    @denault3985 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Greg, the new case, fans, ram and huge new CPU cooler did the trick...
    You're cabling also improved the system, considerably!

  • @PitchBlackWolf490
    @PitchBlackWolf490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the same problem, in my case it was the Motherboard.
    My PC is actually a pre build that I bought during the dark age of mining prices and it was significantly cheaper than building it myself.
    I just sent it back after it crashed all the time, sometimes after just 5min in game or just on my homescreen and sometimes after up to 5hrs while gaming.
    After it shut itself down it took like 5 attempts to turn it back on, it would just turn off right after hitting the power button.
    The technician called me while he was troubleshooting my PC and he was like "I dont have any Problems with your rig, are you sure that.....nevermind it just turned of. I'll come back to you".
    So they replaced the motherboard but I never got to know what the problem with it was

  • @chris_007
    @chris_007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After seeing the mismatched RAM that was my first guess as to what was causing the issue. Then I saw that the RAM sticks were rated at different speeds. I think you were spot on with the new dimm slot order being the issue. It might have been trying to make the other RAM perform at higher frequencies than it could handle?

  • @pcbuilderlover4271
    @pcbuilderlover4271 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Fix or Flop series!

  • @AlexHusTech
    @AlexHusTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Great video, always learning something new!*

  • @Big_boom90
    @Big_boom90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greg again, you've blessed another viewer and my eyes for watching such a great video and learning from you is great! Thank you for being amazing! This pc got a complete makeover, your wire tuck skills are superb and you really know how to make everything look great. Good job brother 👏

  • @stephandolby
    @stephandolby ปีที่แล้ว

    The old cooler looked like there was a quantity of fluff between the fan and the actual heatsink. Lovely.

  • @Kelekona_808
    @Kelekona_808 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the Trident Royal dims in the earlier B-role before you talked about ram issues and I was like Whaaaaaaat? LOL Some big upgrades for this rig in terms of cooling and ram.

  • @rainerbehrendt9330
    @rainerbehrendt9330 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm using the Dark Rock Pro4 with a AMD 3700x and 32 GD RAM since 2020. First Thing was RAM Clearance. No Bling Bling RAM. Low Profile and the Job is done. Corsair Vengeance LPX does the Trick. I'm using a Fractal Meshify C with solid Side Panels so no Blink Blink here.

  • @taggerman6867
    @taggerman6867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Upgraded his cooler from a micro to a full on BBC. Very nice!

  • @albundy7718
    @albundy7718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you use two different 16 GB RAM Kits the XMP Settings used is usually that of the Kit that is placed where you normally put a single Kit. If that Kit has CL16 Setting but the 2nd Kit only works with max CL18 for example it will cause problems. On the other hand if the Kits are switched CL18 would be used on all the Kits and it should work fine. Different max Frequencies can cause this too of course.

  • @johngangemi1361
    @johngangemi1361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice cooler.
    The original case was crap and the cooler was way too small.
    Great video Greg.

  • @gpredd1
    @gpredd1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea why I love watching these fix or flop video's and really love seeing pc's get cleaned. I'm old. LOL

  • @BubbyGamingOfficial
    @BubbyGamingOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:52 doing that while a pc is on is a recipe for bricking a component

  • @bramhenry1163
    @bramhenry1163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite is crashes like this caused by a failing 3.5” drive that doesn’t have the OS on it, like a game drive, it happens way too frequently

  • @florihae
    @florihae 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I did some Fix or Flop myself.
    Had a PC with a Ryzen 3600x and a GTX 1660ti with a Seasonic 650W PSU. All nice.
    Upgraded the GPU to a 7900XTX, all nice. Upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 5800X3D, random crashes while gaming?!
    ...you guessed it, the much faster CPU allowed the GPU to draw it's full 400W and therefore triggering the PSU 😂
    Upgraded to a Corsair RMx1000, all perfect since then!
    PSU is still peefectly fine and runs in my Wifes PC with said Ryzen 3600x and her new RX7900GRE ❤

  • @codygrinnell8676
    @codygrinnell8676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!!! And the last Air Cooler I used was the Darkrock Pro 3 before switching to a AIO..

  • @SteveODonnell
    @SteveODonnell ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 500 FX and it's a stunning case. Built the PC a couple months ago. Ryzen 7 7700, 32GB 6000 DDR5, RX 7900XT

  • @carbinebite1133
    @carbinebite1133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:45 I can't believe you actually unscrewed the one screw giving that gpu any support while the card was just dangling vertically. Rookie move.

  • @eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
    @eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw ปีที่แล้ว

    9:37 *GIVE DAT MEAT A GOOD OL RUB, HE HE BOI*
    i had to, 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

  • @SAMarcus
    @SAMarcus ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had that exact same issue with RAM, although it was with DDR3. It took me forever to isolate the problem, but some BIOS chipsets just refuse to accept certain types of mismatched RAM. I BELIEVE that it is speed related, either it's trying to force a DIMM to run too fast or there's a very bad mismatch with the RAM specs and what the board is programmed to handle. Like, if the board can do 100x4 and 100x8, but the RAM is set for 100x6, then the board freaks out and just loops.
    On a separate issue, yes, DUST BAD! I recently decided to clean a floor fan and I was AMAZED at the airflow difference after I removed the dust caked onto the leading edge of the fan blades. They are called BLADES for a reason it seems! Like a knife edge, fan blades "dulled" by dust caking on them cannot "cut" into the air properly anymore and therefore can't push air like they are supposed to. So, filters and regular cleaning people!

  • @johnstancliff7328
    @johnstancliff7328 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the gold memory chips! thats a first time for me! they must have been expensive! I was surprised to see the sloppy build... cross threaded thumb screws... seen that before on those cheap generic chassis... hate that! I have the same cooler issue in a intel build that has a LGA1366 socket.... I had to reorder the heatsink assembly because of the boise from the fan. unit was running on high all the time and was getting a CPU heat warning! didn't know if the board was damaged, or the CPU.... crazy! anyway, Nice Video Greg! keep up the great work!

  • @Miniputt_999
    @Miniputt_999 ปีที่แล้ว

    The combination of the Bequiet 500 DX/FX and a Dark Rock Pro 4 is just beautiful.
    Did not expect the ram to fail after a case and cooler swap, very interesting.
    But that is now a really cool and beefy gamer pc :D
    Good job Greg, thanks for all the effort and generosity you put into these videos :D

  • @lagpi
    @lagpi ปีที่แล้ว

    You could say that guys rig was told to BE-QUIET, post swap
    You're a real one Greg, keep it on❤

  • @nextcornerman
    @nextcornerman ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video once again Greg!

  • @michaelkennedy320
    @michaelkennedy320 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Greg; very insightful as always. Bad memory will do it too, although it will blue screen and then shut down. Ask me how I know.

  • @MojoWrangler
    @MojoWrangler ปีที่แล้ว

    I recall when those version of the Trident RAM was released. That was a super expensive set, and a nice up for helping correct a user created issue with mismatched sticks and not even attempting to pick something that looked like the same kit.

  • @simonfaulkner5596
    @simonfaulkner5596 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha ha - I love it! Start off with sensible, frugal, considered choices and end up with the parts cannon giving it full blast. Nice job.

  • @astroworfcraig9164
    @astroworfcraig9164 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the cooler. It's one mass of class.

  • @CrunkyOMan83
    @CrunkyOMan83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    totally agree with overclocking....a little phycadelic music and montage is a vibe! I wonder if those memory sticks will work on a different pc. Anyone know free version of the ida 64 bunin?

  • @1Mrstephen
    @1Mrstephen ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy! The rebuild is clean as F!

  • @duke605
    @duke605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I have tech savvy friends and they couldn't figure it out"
    Those friends aren't very tech savvy if they couldn't figure out possibly the easiest to troubleshoot issue a computer can have

    • @RNG-999
      @RNG-999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% Agreed.
      It's literally within the first 5 steps of troubleshooting. Swap memory sticks. Try different memory sticks.
      Problem solved.
      Like... ?

  • @DONTTRIP-ik3dl
    @DONTTRIP-ik3dl ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these types of videos!!🎉

  • @RQUKOfficial
    @RQUKOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    So many unintended fan and case puns. This is why we love Greg. :)

  • @mikedavis4214
    @mikedavis4214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Greg,
    SPD is taken from slot 0 for both banks. So the slow memory must be in slot 0 otherwise it may throw errors due to issues like default speed or timing. It's always best to use matched memory.

  • @unknown14191
    @unknown14191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Broken motherboard traces seems to be the case here for the memory issues. There are many possible reason for broken traces:
    1) Motherboard PCB under structural stress from bad mounting of components/heavy components like the CPU heatsink.
    2) During removal/installation of memory when motherboard is in case.
    3) The 24 pin motherboard power on motherboard is very hard to remove/install, causing more force required which may bend part of the motherboard more than usual.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like what he said about overclocking. No longer will I spend hours in and out of the BIOS for 7 more frames.

  • @ondrejlol
    @ondrejlol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have seen this ram issue on older ryzen cpu (1000 or 2000 series) with mismatched kits. It would work in one order, completely unstable in the other one. Probably has to do with the RAM subtimings or something from the kit in the "main" memory channel.

  • @tohothewriter8002
    @tohothewriter8002 ปีที่แล้ว

    The owner's DIMMs were originally white, green, white, green. It's really weird that having the two kits in the other channel caused boot looping. One would never guess it's something as minor as seeding RAM sticks in different memory channels than in the known working configuration. I'm wondering if the mounting pressure of the "old" CPU cooler wasn't sufficient for adequate heat transfer since it shot straight to throttling temps as soon as AIDA's stress test started. Wouldn't be the most outlandishly plausible cause in my mind. Also, it'd be really nice if the owner gave you your DDR4 kit back, since you don't have many to spare. Your generosity in these Fix or Flop videos is truely the most note worthy part of your personality that draws me to watch this serie with avid interest! Keep doing such an awesmazing job, Greg, the PC/tech communities need more folks like you!
    Unrelated question; next new house video when? I'm curious to hear how that's going for you. Hopefully well enough that there isn't any major snag that delays the move in.

  • @MrGiulik
    @MrGiulik ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Guy Greg saves another folks day :)

  • @TerQi
    @TerQi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah ive seen that same ram no boot issue due to order the way i fix it is to reset the cmos before adding in new ram or reordering the ram from experience older xeon and some ryzen cpus are pretty picky on what slot the memory is in

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I built my gaming rig a couple of years ago, I actually undervolted the Ryzen CPU and kept it at stock speed. You get more performance and bang for buck from a Gen4 M.2 NvME than overclocking and overheating your CPU, requiring a higher end cooling system.

  • @Sidecar_associates
    @Sidecar_associates 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Particularly good ep ​@GregSalazar !

  • @themechanic-warzone7123
    @themechanic-warzone7123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely love bequiet stuff. Been using it alot lately in my builds, i consider them to be “old reliable” 👌👌

  • @andrewemt8158
    @andrewemt8158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fan-tastic got me😂😂

  • @alexanderalexandrou
    @alexanderalexandrou ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought 4 sticks of DDR4 for my latest build. All identical, but packaged in couples. All it took was putting one stick from the one box with another from the other box on the same memory lane to not have post. Mismatched RAM is a hell of a thing!

  • @larsvaahlmar1784
    @larsvaahlmar1784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's nice when you bring PC in a shoddy case and cooler and you get a bequiet! case back 😆

  • @JohhnyBloke
    @JohhnyBloke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had random shutdowns, after trying about everything I was able to figure out that it was due to the selected XMP profile 2, my x570 tomahawk really didn't like that with my gskill ram.

  • @jubayedturag1564
    @jubayedturag1564 ปีที่แล้ว

    loving the repair vids, learning new things

  • @daveruble5150
    @daveruble5150 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That system looks really sharp. Well Done! Sir, or Madam!

  • @permsn
    @permsn ปีที่แล้ว

    I got same kind of issue because of the teamforce ram, not all mobo's like the teamforce ram, tho this seems like it dont like the order of the ram, thats speed related. In the end you did a very nice fix my friend. You are loved by many😊

  • @spid3y445
    @spid3y445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos man!!❤
    Big love ❤