Jeep No Blower + Flickering Dash? - Diagnosis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- It's JEEP TIME!
This 2006 Jeep Commander has some annoying electrical issues: a non-functional blower motor, and flickering dash illumination.
Let's diagnose all the issues accurately, so we can load up the parts "sniper rifle" accordingly.
Enjoy!
Ivan - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Super common issues. I had a 06 grand Cherokee, same issues with the lights flickering and also the hvac system. It’s very common on the Jeep forums as well. Great diagnostic.
Yeah. Agreed. Jeeps known for blowing resistor packs.
IT'S A JEEP THING.
Yep,common , my headlights would shutoff
Most guys would just replace the blower motor only to be surprised it won't work on a lower setting. I started watching scannerdanner and Eric the car guy channel in 2015 before finding you and Eric. And then Keith started his channel. Since then so many other great channels have opened our eyes to really good troubleshooting techniques. I appreciate all you guys who pick up the camera and teach while you work. It has encouraged me to tackle much more complicated electrical issues and not be afraid to test before replacing. Thank you Ivan.
SMA- SOUTH MAIN AUTO, ERIC O. IS ANOTHER GREAT CHANNEL ALSO.
Thanks for the support and motivation Wyatt! It's viewers and fans like you who make the difference 👍🙂
A Jeep blowing a resistor pack? Well, that just never happens. ;)
Remember. If it ain't leak'n, you ain't Jeep'n.
If anything is working, it ain't a jeep...lol
Excellent diagnosis, no messing.
Thanks for sharing Ivan.
awesome, i was having pine hollow with drawls lol great to see another expert diag!!!! good job Ivan,now please load part 2 ASAP lol !!!
I just clicked on the Bell Notifications so I can watch part 2 as soon as you post it. I think I am addicted to your car repair videos. Haha!!
Most excellent haha
Good thorough diagnosis. Should make the repair go smoothly.
As always a great educational video. Thanks for sharing. I hope you are having a Blessed Weekend.
Awesome channel. I'm learning a lot. Keep up the good work .
Thank you Ivan. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week.
Thank you as always Billy!
Ivan buying parts! My God Snow Storm in State College PA coming soon! LOL! Sometimes you just got to go with new parts.
Sweet little double diag. Thanks Ivan!
Flickering lights just in time for Christmas Ivan!
Thank you Chrysler QC
Well done Pine, your channel is really different. Carry on
Will do! Thanks for the comment!
Dope😛 its a jeep, Mr Eric O, mite not wana hear that statement 😂😂😂
Thanks Ivan I love your videos
I love watching your electrical testing and diagnosis. I am guessing after watching your video that a resistor regulates the amount of electricity that flows to the control unit. And each wire would carry a different amount of electricity so the car could operate the different fan speeds.
You forgot to mention it also needs a blower resistor pigtail connector. 😊
Of course 😁
I fixed one of those resistor arrays once. The resistors were ok. That device on the top of the array is a thermal fuse and when the resistors get too hot (usually from insufficient air flow) the fuse opens up and kills the power. Obviously you have other issues as well (connector etc). But just thought I'd say for anyone that wants to fix it, the thermal fuses (temp value stamped on the side of the device) are available from China for less than a buck.
As usual a very thorough troubleshooting procedure.
Thanks
I had a similar on a Honda Pilot rear blower power transistor. Only thing wrong was the thermal fuse. Exact match hard to find, ship time and you had to buy 5 or so. Easier to just change the module given the price off Amazon. Now I have a power transistor with a heat sink for use in other projects.
Well if it TELLS me not to repair it, I'm gonna repair it! 😁
Wow, that pin got HOT! Chernobyled, lol! 😂
Just did a similar one on a '04 Ram my neighbor owns. Could also hear the mode door actuator spinning away, doing nothing. Fan didn't work either. We put a resistor in there, and got the fan working again. He couldn't wait for me (needs his heat) so he went to another shop who told them they can't fix it, because it could be a module (???) ... which I doubt, because I could hear all the motors working when whatever mode was selected. They just weren't moving the doors - common issue, cheap plastic broke. Guess he went to the dealer with it. 🤯😬😳 Can't wait to see THAT bill!! My guess is close to $2k ...
LOL yeah good luck with that! Definitely broken plastic :)
Good job, Pine Holler!
Contact cleaner might fix the dimmer control for the dash lights. Worth a try if you can spray it in to the variable resistor. Spray it in and rotate the dimmer to clean. Might be a cheep fix.
That Heater resistor is the identical part as the used on Fiat Puntos usually sold as a kit with a new plug.
In Australia last month Jeep sold a whopping 478 units, Toyota 15,135 by comparison. I know ,small market compared to the US you guys are saying, but Jeep sales are down 25% and falling . Jeep's on the nose, can't for the life of me understand why? Another sharp diag job Ivan.
Same thing has happened with my 2006 Jeep Liberty twice. As soon as I realize one of the speeds on the fan control does not work, I know to replace the blower motor resistor. I believe if I catch it early, it stops the problem from getting worse, and takes about 5 minutes to replace.
very helpful guy..thanks
Jeep Electrical Gremlins not too bad for this jeep, pretty straight forward so far..
This jeep let the owner off easy :)
@@volvo09 hehehe yeah.."good jeep good jeep"
Nice job
Have you dealt with The speaker is not working on a 2005 Jeep grand Cherokee WK?
Have you made a video on making a high amperage test light as yours? I know I've watched several cool tool time videos cody started, but was wondering if you have one on it?
Blower resistor is more easily tested by unplugging the resistor and checking ohms. Wiring pigtail obviously needs replacement
Lol at "it's a Jeep" justifying firing the parts cannon. I concur.
You should have pulled the blower motor out. I just replaced one on a 2015 sprinter that the bearings rusted, causing a hard to spin fan. I sprayed it with some whatever spray I had around, and spun it a few times, plugged it in and it works again. I still didn't bother fixing it, I just bought a new one, but as I am one of the people to drive that van, and I found the issue on a nice cold early morning, I wanted heat while I waited for the new part. I just told everyone until it was fixed, only run the fan on high. I figured it wasn't fixed enough to that I trust it not to burn the resistor pack, and those resistors were about $100. I checked locally for the fan, and those were about $250. crazy. Luckily rockauto is a lot cheaper, but the $100 resistor is from rock auto.
I was close on this one...well blower motor gone,and nice color changing wires.....😂
My 06 Commander’s speedometer, tachometer, blinkers, temp gauge, front windows, sun roof, back window switch, wipers, headlight control, power locks, gear indicator, radio all stopped working all at once and all the warning lights are on.
I changed the ignition switch and that didn’t fix it. I did notice some wires that were broken in the drivers door rubber boot and fixed them, still not working.
All the fuses are good.
Battery is good.
Alternator is good.
The ground wires I found are good.
It does seem like it has to do with the door.
If you start the car with the door open, the warning lights on the cluster doesn’t illuminate and the blower motor doesn’t work, but once you close the door all the warning lights come on and the blower motor works.
This is driving me crazy!
Any ideas?
Thank You!
I'm dealing with a similar issue with my '06 Commander, but only speeds 2 & 3 aren't working, and my HVAC light turns off when I bump to those settings. Would you expect a similar result?
seems like a lot of people put garbage in passenger floor i wouldn't be surprised to see napkins or something that got sucked in the air intake and stuck in the fan. i had that happen once. made a lot of noise and had to take it off and clean it out and worked good since then.
Good grief ! You couldn't give me a jeep.I came from sma ignition switch to Ivan blower motor and lights problem.
Next vid....sounds like you'll be watching someone up against....yet another stupid TIPM problem👍😜
Or another video where there's a bad ground. Lol 😂😂😂 the notorious 6 ground circuits on 1 eyelet... G102. 😂😂😂
Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth/Fiat = mechanics stay in biz.
transmission pans rusting through, evap hoses splitting, water pump seals leaking, radiator plugging and cracking, heater core plugging, rear window/gate electronics going nuts at random draining the battery, odd squeaking/front driveshaft rear CV bad(remove it and repair you say, sure as soon as you drop the exhaust or crossmember/trans/transfer case) they eat the small front cat's for breakfast, in which the heat shields also rust loose and rattle like mad.
I'll just stop there, if only they could go back to the early CJ designs, when they were mainly known as roll-over wagons lol
@@jessicarabbit3364 Absolutely!!👍Without things breaking down we'd be out there looking for a new career🤔...Lol
Um.... U think thats bad u should see some Honda's and fords and Toyota's
Hey guys, Here show I fixed it. new commander owner here. I tried both ignition and stem switch. Wasn't that, blower resister new, wasn't that. It turned out to be the main computer plug located directly under the battery. I noticed it got worse when it rained. So I removed the battery and the battery holder. I opened up the connector and it was filled with water. Cleaned, wrapped in a plastic bag, and now all my gauges, turn signals works perfect
I have an 06 commander as well. My blower problem is the similar only intermittent. It works fine on all speeds when it works. I have also noticed that the ac indicator light remains illuminated after the fan switch is turned off at 01:38 in the video, mine does the same. I believe that it should turn off with the fan switch. Am I correct on that point?
My 06 commanders headlights and interior dash lights are now blinking and getting worse. No idea what to do. Just started happening today. Someone suggested the ignition switch and someone else said the headlight stalk.
Napkins are factory fitment to stop rattles?
I know on newer chrsyler products have a resistor on them. Not sure whenethay started them on the houusing
A F.C.A. Jeep with a bad heater motor AND resistor? What's the world coming to? Never saw a column stalk go bad with an intermittent dash illumination light! WOW! Good Diag!
Quoting a NEW turn signal stalk is a good idea IMHO....there’s the safety concern too...
My 2014's dash started flickering when dimmer at max brightness or lights on auto..any ideas
Good job. I’m surprised you don’t use a power probe on these type of calls to power up components.
Not worth the risk of blowing something up haha
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Great systematic diag as always but a power probe 4 in Feed test mode would be quicker...and as Mr. O would say you can't give it the beans in that mode.
That reminds me...still need to do a "Scientific Review" on the Power Probe :D
Flickering instrument cluster lights ( IT'S A JEEP THING ) AND HEEEERRRREEEE WEEEEEE GOOOOOOOOOOO. EDIT---- Ivan NICE DIAG. 1 question Sir, DO YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ? That light combo test light thing you made was pretty COOL. You made the RIGHT CALL ON THE STOCK FOR FLICKERING LIGHTS, EVEN THE LIGHT SWITCHES THAT ARE MOUNTED ON THE DASH DO THE SAME JEEP THING, KRAZY JEEPS. BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOT A BMW, LMAO.
New blower motor, new resistor, and new resistor connector. I've always thought there is too much being controlled by the stalk multifunction switch, it's bound to have problems.
Hi mine is the same way but now the little knob to turn it on won’t turn you know what it could be ?
Pretty sure I have that same dewalt impact...20 volt right? How are you liking yours? It's my first impact so I have no frame of reference, but so far I think it's great
I use my old 12V for small fasteners and the 20V for bigger stuff! Love them!
Spray some De-Oxit in the openings of the turn signal stalk. It might clean the contacts and make it work for a while longer.
some european cars use the same resistor pack and they burn the same way,check the amps on the fan ,the motor can have an issue.
Hahahaha....someone obviously didn't watch the whole video...lol
Your new company name is "Warp speed diagnostics" :-D
The blower motor and resistor pack is no supprise, the motor demands more current than normal because the windings are semi shorting out due to vibration wearing off the wire enamel, and the resistor goes Poof in disgust :-D
I don't blame the resistor :-)
Both the resistor and blower motor just didn't want to be part of a jeep...LOL😜🤣
Perhaps it was part of a resistance group :)
LOL
@@zx8401ztv 'Resistance is Jeepless'
Simon ilett
lol so clever, hit the funny bone spot on :-D
I just fix my 2013 Chrysler 200 the ac only work often on speed 3 and 4 ( of course you’ll think ohh it’s the blower resistor ) but befor replace the resistor i test the switch if its command the resistor to spin the blower and in my case the switch was bad the dealer want $499 I bought it on line ( junk yard) for $50 and it’s work perfectly fine .
I have no accessory mode on my 06 5.7 limited.no acc mode with key I mean to say.
I have checked all wires head to toe. Nuts to butts!
one suspected wire, under the center counsel leaving the XK box. looks to be design Audio and power for the yaw sensor.
Not sure what the box is but has a giant XK on it. im gone patch it up tomorrow. checked all my voltage. I’m Gucci.
Everything except my horn was getting Voltage while running.
My harness on the crossmemeber was sealed up. Alternator lead had 13-14 volts. Didn’t check stater but she fires up everytime.
My head lights stay on when driving.
Day or night no light control.
I am unable to use my brights, no radio, no lcd tv, no turn signals, hazards come and then won’t go off, no heated seats, cluster lights up but gas Speedo and rpm, don't work.
have some dummy lights on.
Can’t pull a codes but no check engine light. my darn obd port is corroded.
Starter and alternator are legit. Battery cranks @14 when running. 12-13 when off.
I just now found out the interior fuse panel had relays on the back. not sure how to tell if a relay is bad. I’ll research that next I did buy a pcm and had some spare relays of both type. I hope I just popped a circuit break located on back of the panel or front.
So full disclosure
Cause if you ain’t honest, honestly no body can help you!
I was parked waiting for my wife. My stock sub wasnt working after I removed the front center consol earlier in the day and was was being impatient.
I then, like a dummy, pulled the fuse 30 the 15 while it was running 🤦♂️ this is when my nightmare began!
Help a brother out! This is my wife’s daily. We named it the mommander!
We are lifted on 35’s and spacer!
blondiocksbeautyservies on Instagram to see out jeep.
Start with a good wiring diagram for power distribution...should be simple :)
Mine has the same symptoms, my 06 xk. I did not in a million years think they are connected
How did you determine the BLOWER MOTOR was bad without testing it electrically?
Very interesting video.
Easy! Test light turned on, blower did NOT :)
This was due to the resistor being fried?
Awesome
Does it make the car run rough
Those turn signal switches are garbage. I had to replace mine because the headlights were doing what the illumination does. A bit more dangerious than interior lights haha :)
JEEP: Just Expect to replace Every Part
Does that thing got a Hemi in it?
First thing you do when a blower motor doesn’t work u turn it on and hit it. See if there’s a dead spot in the motor. Lol
Yeah this one was completely shot...100% dead haha
Justin Hayward i have seen someone do that for well over a year..he keeps hitting it and it’s still going tell this day lol 😂
occaionally an overcurrent fan heater motor can cause resistor failure
Hmmmm.....fan heater??
Nice Job Motoyam
👍👍
Lol Do Not Repair
Shucks Ivan
Its a JEEP. It needs everything
J.E.E.P junkiest engineering ever possible.😎
Better then a vw. That's for sure.
You gotta clarlfy
Better than the new vw
I find it interesting that resistor blocks are still used instead of motor controllers.
2006 Jeeps. Yup. FCA cost cutting.
they are actually more robust and less expensive to produce so why not use them
thank for taking care of our military everyone should respect the decision they made to protect American Citizens I thank you BILL N LI NY
Does Ivan still have his job?
Don't feed Jeeps too many new parts! They get a taste for it. At least my WJ did ;)
I noticed the blower motor resistor was marked "Made in Germany".
Can't be all bad!
Fanspin!
My Grandpa used to say...If it`s got tires or tits, It`s gonna give ya problems...lol...always something. Thanks Ivan, blower motor was probably going bad and took out the resistor and connector on the way out.
vertically mounted blower motors are just plain moronic. all i takes is for a drain to plug once and they fill with water. that rust on the resister pack is proof of that's what happened.
The roof lights are in the stalk 😳
Chrysler many parts required
So a forty amp fuse is saved by a blown resistor pack genius wiring imagine a 40 amp fuse on a 15 amp house circuit the owner is lucky there was no electrical fire under the dash.
Good trace and diag. Order a new pigtail for the resistor ? Again, under engineered quality and this is proved a second time with the turn signal stalk being made of plastic that allow too much flex thus the tiny inside contacts move away from their counter parts. Plastic Plastic everywhere...please auto makers, high grade plastic or use another material that doesn't fall apart from age and use. That resistor is a common failure in lots of cars and trucks.
the only thing high grade is the cost of the junk, too many hands in the cookies jars wanting big payouts, the auto industries have all been run into the ground by greed(housing market also) ;)
What was that noise hat sounded like a frog?
it's a jHeep, diagnosis over :))
......"its a Jeep" ...😂
Pricy repair Resistor, motor and stick
Plus a connector! Load up the parts cannon!
Change that multi function.
Just finished removing a mouse nest from by daughters Toyota sienna blower assembly. But it sounds like yours has a toad living in it 14:04.
The blow. The motor is bad that’s my car are from Aleskyfinis
_"...but it's a jeep so..."_
lol it's ok the Chrysler engineers meant well lol
Ok ok ok ok ok ok
Both common problems in jeeps, along with a 100 more...
The better you get the less you will need Pico and use simple tools.
Not necessarily. The ideal tool depends on the task at hand. Experience helps in picking the right tool and using it to get the best results 🙂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Of all the videos on youtube troubleshooting,, you have the best logic sensors in your brain. The scope is a visual tool, but the brain is the logic tool. As the logic/visual paths connect in your mind the less you will need to rely on outside wave paths. However you will always need to know component location and schematics ( or documents) because other minds build their own particular codes and pathways. I learned this in construction... One one who understand the documents the best will always win, not because of being the smartest in the room, but because of better conceptual study habits before the task begins. Just saying,, been there done that...
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Robert! Often the logic can be figured out just by looking at a diagram or a picture. That is my favorite part of diagnostics...figuring out hoe the system works!
first
Resistor is german engineering
haha it's all JUNK!
I don't have time to watch right now.
Don't worry I'll keep the video up for you to watch later :)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics thats mighty nice of ya!!!
A non tacky way of saying....FIRST! LoL 😂
A couple of fake Scotty grunts may help break any hard bolt or connection.