Meg's arc is so fascinating to me. She was a badly written annoying teen girl stereotype in the beginning of the series, but instead of writing her as a better character, the show turned her into a punching bag to cater to the audience. "See guys? We think shes annoying too!"
I think the issue comes with fans not liking her character so they changed it so that the writers made fun of her before the fans did. Then they dialed it up to the point where even the fans felt uncomfortable and then finally gave up when they realized that Meg was a lost cause.
@@nickrustyson8124i disagree. south park started before family guy. the 2000s were filled with edgey content, its not all south parks fault. the treatment of meg as a character is unique and got to a point of nearly uncomfortable cruelty. beating a dead horse. oe meg in this case.
"Meg is pointless" Meanwhile, Cleveland's kids are cardboard cutouts in the background never allowed to talk. Or Joe's kids except like once every 10 years, but don't worry, Quagmire gets all the time he needs to drag down an episode.
And now Quagmire's more boring because he's not allowed to be a walking sex joke anymore. So like Meg, they're just throwing things at the wall trying to figure out what sticks. Giggity.
@@Tadicuslegion78And the writer made that whole speech for him to Brian because they wanted to show the audience “oh, he’s so based! See, we hate Brian too!” When all of Quagmire’s points are hypocritical. At this point Quagmire is just the “based and red-pilled” character
I think American Dad portrayed the daughter character better than family guy ever did. Haley was a sort of punching bag for Stan to throw jabs at, but she was her own character that was interesting and will be shown in a good light once in awhile when the focus isn't on Stan. Episodes show her good traits when they're about her. She has emotional moments with Stan too. Idk if this really made any sense, but Haley is a better Meg.
@@phabiorules I agree. I love the episode from, i believe season 1, where they explain where this political tension comes from. Like their early moments and how much they loved each other, until she grew up and realized she didn't support this same side. I think it's a great dynamic between the two. I also personally love that episode Lol
@@phabiorules Also, because there's a sort of justification, it always comes off more like Stan sees her as a dumb kid that doesn't know what she's talking about; and not like he just hates her. Definitely helps that she's proven right sometimes, and not just a punching bag.
The thing is as well, they already succeeded in that during the bully years. Meg got bullied but still did a ton of honorable things which showed how selfless she was. That poem she wrote about hope was honestly beautiful. But then the writers felt a need to justify their bullying of Meg by making her a bad person and giving her lines like "I'm part of a group that trashes Anne Frank's house every year"... like cmon how are we gonna root for a person who does that? They should've just taken bully-years Meg and removed the bullying.
they dont know how to write her, which sounds like an excuse at this point after so many years. they can just hire someone or practice making teen girl characters in the show in the background if they wanted to start even learning so they can put more effort into her. I know some have daughters, they could literally take from their own experiences.
@@ArunaUtd Hell, I just read that kind of characterization as her being psychological fucked over by being raised by a self-destructive man child and a selfish rich bitch.
I was never that much into Family Guy, but I did still notice the shift between the early seasons and the later ones in terms of how Meg was treated. And as some have pointed out: It's shocking that Peter being an abusive prick to her, but making a speech in private to Meg that he still loves her, and just has to keep acting the way he does to seem cool is considered to "have heart", whereas if this was at any point said by Homer Simpson to Lisa, it'd be considered the most insulting modern Simpsons episode ever.
Family Guy: A Simpsons-style animated comedy starring an eccentric family that places its cast into a variety of situations, differentiating itself from its contemporaries with edgier humor, musical numbers, a reliance on unrelated “cutaway gags”, and references and parodies to beloved films and TV.
I'm gonna take a crack at that challenge: Family Guy is an adult animated Television show which showcases the adventures the citizens of Quahog get into. Its humor is usually derived from pop culture references, references to the 80s, or the shows unique "Cut-a-way" gags. It shows almost no continuity. Edit: Sad that I have to even SPECIFY this, but no, this was not written by AI. I simply thought for a solid minute or two on how to describe the show without name dropping the Griffins.
I'd say Family Guy (intially at least) is about a dad (the titular "family guy") trying to raise his family from what he learned watching family sitcoms, "good old-fashion values" but applying them so literally/exaggerated that the hypocrisy of it being better than modern day television is shown. Or its just takes the premise of the Simpsons household, makes every member able to talk, and add cut-away gags.
Honestly, this is something I’ve noticed with a lot of media tbh. A lot of writers don’t take criticism seriously. If you say “I don’t like how Meg is treated.” A lot don’t go “ok let’s take a look at what we’re doing and what people are saying”. They seem to just go on an extreme. Either they do a complete 180 and make whatever was complained about worse in the opposite direction, or they just start stripping away bits and pieces without actually improving what’s left It’s like if you said “I don’t like the sauce on this meat loaf, I wish it were sweeter” and the chef either removes meatloaf entirely from the menu or starts coating it in pounds and pounds of sugar. It doesn’t fix the problem, it just makes the problem different. It feels kinda, narcissistic in a way. Like they think their idea is good so to show you why yours is shit, they go on the most extreme they can with it and make it shit so they can then go “well, we tried it your way and you still hate it so???” Honestly makes me kinda hate a lot of writing teams in that regard. It feels like I’m just being talked down to in a way
Exactly. They probably know their critics have a point but they don’t want to change, so they misrepresent the criticisms so that they can say their way is better or that the critics don’t know what they are talking about. It’s frustrating to see but there really isn’t much that can be done about it because we can’t really force them to change. We can’t force them to listen to us so they will continue to do what they want for as long as possible until eventually they can’t anymore or people stop watching their show after taking off their rose tinted glasses and realize it kinda sucks
(first 4-5 seasons) Family guy is a show about a dysfunctional family who get into wacky shenanigans (rest of the show) Family guy is a show about a family of awful people doing awful things to each other and strangers while reminiscing over pop culture references.
Hot take: the new one is better. The random stupidity makes it stand out more. By still having a heart and real moments, it's too much of a Simpsons ripoff
I can’t stand what they did with Meg. When she FINALLY stood up to her family and called them out, I thought her character arc was going to skyrocket. Nope. The writers make her apologize and go back to be the punching bag. 😒 I got tired of the abuse for nothing. Not only does her family hate her, the whole town does and I never understood it for her character.
@@truanalain4266 I will when the show presents it like a moral message going on about that stupid “it’s important for someone to be the lightning rod and absorb everybody else’s anger” bullshit
@@YodaOnABenderI mean, it's family guy. they can do an episode about quagmire's sister being abused and how domestic abuse is wrong, but it's still family guy and you're still a moron for thinking that family guy has good moral messaging
I never understood why meg was considered ugly when she looks like a copy of lois(who is considered very attractive), but with brown hair and glasses. Hell, in the episode where they make her "hot" they just dyed her hair blonde and changed her outfit.
It was always strange whenever the show tried to make her seem ugly or unattractive. It feels like that trope where a female character has glasses, but the moment she takes them off, she's suddenly drop-dead gorgeous. Like her high school friends fit the "unappealing buttmonkey" way more than Meg ever could.
Speaking of useless things, it's crazy how the clone high reboot basically went from a charming parody of teen dramas to basically just a teen drama with a few jokes.
To be fair, I prefer her current situation more. Yes, it's boring, but I prefer innocent boring characters compared to innocent punching bags (I am talking generally, it can work if the character stands up for themself, or learns to, or if the pain is more cartoonish than mean spirited and they recover quick).
@@justaneditygangstar I mean ofcourse, there's only so many times you can beat up the same character before it's just kinda sad. Like it's not morally wrong or anything, but at best, it's a dead joke, and at worst, it's just kinda... weird feeling. It's like squidward. Like at a certain point, I just don't care to see him in pain. He's just a pretentious bitter asshole. I get making fun of doing "Avant Garde Clarinet" but I don't wanna see him get a toenail violently ripped out. It's just kinda disgusting.
I remember Mark saying in his every Family Guy episode review that everyone hating Meg is like Homer strangling Bart & it struck me that unlike Homer & Bart' s dynamic, Meg's only comedic angle was her misery. I even remember episodes where Meg would dissappear for the episode's remainder after one joke where something bad happens to her.
I imagine a lot of that was just down to Mila Kunis being very busy and not having much time to record for the show other than a handful of lines for episodes. She doesn't really tend to do much work now, but she was still a huge leading actress when in the 2000's and 2010's, and having a main or big supporting role in movies is far more time consuming than a lot of people really tend to think. Now though, she tends to focus more on her family, and isn't acting in two or three movies/shows a year, so her schedule is far more accommodating to record Family Guy episodes than it was 10, 15 years ago.
Genuinely a little depressing seeing those clips from "Chitty Chitty Death Bang" in the intro where Peter was genuinely excited about Meg's cheerleading tryouts and encouraging of her ambitions. That was actually the first Family Guy ep I ever caught on Adult Swim as a little kid 😭 It's so strange seeing that scene back to back with the lightning rod monologue from "Seahorse Seashell Party". Family Guy was never a show about consistency or anything, but it's weird to see it go from sugar to cyanide to just flavorless chalk dust today.
8:09 lol Mark don't tell me you've been using a Fanon site for sources in your vids, because that's pretty funny if you are. That's not the actual Family Guy wiki dude. Fanon is a portmanteau of Fan Canon, aka fanfiction. it's even on the front page of the site you used: "A collaborative wiki dedicated to two things: the creations and ideas of all fans of the Family Guy, and rewriting the hit 1999 classic!" Lots of franchises have "fanon" wikis which are completely unrelated to the actual wikis, you should always avoid fanon places if what you're looking for is purely a cataloguing of canon and official works for a series/franchise.
0:34 oh yeah? Family Guy is a show about a family who have many misadventures together or seperetly, with a bunch of fisical comedy and gags (their most popular format being the cutaway gags)
Family guy is a show about a family living through what is considered a normal day in rhode island while seth macfarlane occasionally changes the channel to a different animated comedy show every couple of gags
Ah, the good old "I mistook a Fanon wiki with a FanDOM wiki". The former are effectively collective fanfics in wiki form (They're the ones responsible of things like Lucina from Fire Emblem being Peppa Pig's nemesis, for example)
I kind of want to know the context behind the Lucina/Peppa Pig rivalry, but also I think any actual explanation couldn't be as funny as there being no explanation at all and just letting the idea bathe in all its surreal glory.
Fanon = Fan canon. so as OP said, fanfics basically. Or commonly-accepted elements amongst a subgroup of fans that aren’t truly canon, but said group is willing to treat as true.
I too was unsettled by that message Mr Enter would put at the start of his old videos when I was a kid, and the old intro he had for Animated Atrocities in 2014 because the music was scary-sounding
Family guy used to be about how a family guy tried to use TV tropes/Pop culture to raise his family, which ended up failing miserably and forcing said father to learn about it. It's famous for their cut-a-way gags to add comedy, which were usually an entertaining flashback who actually contributed to the plot.
Let's be real, even though American Dad is better the smiths are still bad people, just like the griffins. They're both made by Seth MacFarlane and probably have a lot of the same work staff.
**cracks knuckles** Family Guy is a TV series about the humorous day-to-day adventures of the citizens of Quahog, said humor usually manifesting in pop-culture references and cutaway gags. I didn't use AI, I swear. This is me writing.
I can’t stand how there are a few episodes where Meg can shake up the status quo like with her bond with peter on the college tour or when she stands up for herself and it just never amounts to anything and makes you question what the point of that was
My attempt at a family guy description: The show follows a family of five in quahog, Rhode Island. The family gets into shenanigans everyday, and the humor that comes along with it is equally as random. You proved your point that was ridiculously hard for no reason any description comes off as bland.
8:13 The site you saw wasn't an actual Family Guy wiki. It is a fanon wiki. Fanon wikis are wikis where people make their own series, episodes, movies, and games out of their favorite IPs.
Plus even assuming it was the actual Wiki his criteria for what's a real episode is if he can find it on hulu, when streaming services remove episodes of cartoons all the time. By that criteria, the panty raid episode of Spongebob never existed, because the iconic episode that played all the time on Nick has a Wiki page but no Hulu listing.
The episode where family Guy had her go "wow I guess I NEED to be abused" only for them to write a 'serious' episode about Quagmire's sister being abused (which btw they heavily imply that she's in the wrong or weak for) made it so I could never take any serious moments from quagmire as genuine
i love how toonrifictariq put it it's about a man who tries to bring fortune to his family through the morals he learned through tv. shit just makes sense
Peter went from being an exact copy of Homer Simpson personality-wise to a huge abusive asshole who I want to say Lois should file a divorce on, but even she became as bad as Peter as time went on for the show's run.
“When I was a young kid, at around 10…” Your parents let you watch Family Guy at 10? My parents only let me when I was 13 and still only certain episodes 💀
I remember when I was 4-5, I would just watch adult swim or nick at nite. The only scene I remember was Stewie killing Lois in the episode when she and Peter went on a cruise.
The part at 8:25 about episodes not existing They do exist but Hulu has censored them and removed them. Any episode that’s anti-Semitic, has black face, or is unnecessarily offensive has been removed. Screw Hulu for that and any other streaming platform
i think toonrifictariq perfectly described family guy. a middle aged father who tries to apply television logic into different scenerios, some of the time tries to apply it to parenting. while doing that, also paroding pop culture, and current events.
Family Guy is a show about cartoon characters trying to preform a family sitcom as they gradually get more and more unhinged until getting tired and then burning out entirely as the seasons moved on. I still love the line where someone points out a contradiction or something and Peter goes "I don't know its all just jokes."
I think modern meg is a badass. She’s athletic, talented, and has basically stopped caring about how other see her, instead focusing on her own goals. I love modern Meg
This is the biggest flaw for a long-running show to me when long running shows who create their characters under a certain cultural era and then are forced to change them later. They ultimately forget what made the character special and just choose the more wacky traits and ignore the more nuanced and complex ones leaving the character feeling soulless.
Would be interesting to see how Haley Smith, another daughter in a sitcom life, has turned out. Probably more, since American Dad has a lil more depth to the family.
I've started watching American dad again since i was a kid and man these later seasons do treat her with equal respect as the rest of the family with is little but equal. Everyone in the smith family is always equally in the wrong at times, it reminds me kinda more of it's always sunny now then family guy. Haley doesn't feel like a punching bag, she feels like a character who can be wrong and do terrible things but so is everyone else
@@twigwigsosoI quite agree and it’s also nice that they learn from each other and call out each other, so it’s more fair. Also Francine and Hayley are much better feminists than Lois and Meg.
family guy is a show about peters crazy life, and the shenanigans he, his family, and friends get into while sometimes focusing on other character's of the show to mix it up.(Bite me mark.)
0:25 I guess I'd say Family Guy is just simply about the random adventures and mischief of the Griffins and how each situation affects the family and/or their dynamic (until its returns to the status quo at the end of every episode)
Family Guy is about TV, it's about tropes, you can see this in the opening where the characters sing about how TV is always the same, you can see in the second section that all the characters act as if they know it's a show and the title itself has a TV symbol. Notice how almost every joke subverts common tropes, even when it's about politics you see them heavly criticizing the ideology presented in the joke, I can remember Chris showing up in a Trump joke and he said "Look! I wrote this joke(gets angry expression) THAT'S WHAT YOU DESERVE (type of people name I can't remember)" or something like that, it showed how Family Guy is even parodyzing jokes that take a clear political position, I remember those people who comment "haha family guy is wild, no one is safe!" Yeah, neither you. Now let's take my favourite episodes, the ones where Stewie kills Lois, if we analyze it, it's played very meta and parody-like, Stewie feels like another Stewie, the plot gets bizzarre even for Family Guy standards, it was played as if it was the defenitive ending of Family Guy, and how does it end? It was all a simulation, Brian asks Stewie if people are gonna be mad about this and he says that yes they do but they should enjoy the ride. If that doesn't prove that Family Guy is about common TV tropes... I don't know what it is. Family Guy is the OG meta-narrative, that's why it works with it and with shows such as Velma it doesn't, because with Family Guy it's the whole point
Family guy is about a dad who is obsessed with tv from the past, trying to find a decade to live in. and needs to learn to move forward. that's why in the theme song it has "It seems today that all you see Is violence in movies and sex on TV But where are those good old-fashioned values... On which we used to rely?!"
Easy challenge. Family Guy is about a group of actors playing the roles of a nuclear family whilst getting into misadventures that lead to either perilous, emotional or severe situations with inconvenient cutaways.
Family Guy is about a severely dysfunctional and spiteful family that desperately needs therapy, as well as some cut ties. Each character has their own flaws, and over time they show more and more. The cycle of abuse, ignoring, and simple stupidity almost never cracks, and their "friends"/neighbors don't help in any way with it.
Some dumb detail I notice about later season Family Guy episodes is when they do that thing when 2 characters are talking and you see the back of one character's head and it has a shadow regardless of the environment they're in. The sun can be shining directly on the back of their heads and there will still somehow be a shadow where the light is shining
Okay since you asked for engagement in the comments: Family Guy is semi-parody of old-school 80's and 90's family-centric sitcoms, that is itself heavily inspired by The Simpsons. The show takes various tropes and aspects about it's characters and stretches them to obscene, sometimes shocking lengths for the sake of making jokes or sometimes simply humorous observations about some widely shared tropes and character dynamics present in those kinds of stories. It stars something resembling a standard cast for one of these shows, with a couple of twists like the dog and baby also being intelligent and sometimes malicious. Beyond that it is simply an episodic comedy that bounces between acting as something of a parody to those older shows and also taking random bits of it's own setting and lore and stretching them out. So yeah it is kind of hard to do without listing off the characters at all, though in all fairness i'd have similar trouble doing this with The Simpsons any better.
Family guy is a comedic slice of life adult animation that centers around The Griffin Family and their weekly antics. mostly focused on Peter, the patriarch (that felt weird to type), it allows follows the exploits of his wife Lois, his 2 teenaged children Chris and Meg, as well as his infant genius/gay baby stewie and their dog Brian. episodes typically center around an A and B plot, where the A plot focuses on Peters adventures, the B plot will showcase the familys exploits (and usually how peters antics can have an effect on them). although the show began more as a humble recreation of older 80's/90's sitcoms (think family matters or full house), the show quickly became more about surreal and sometime horrific episode plots (including the baby getting pregnant, or getting herpes, or building a time machine. or peter and his friends finding god???). you can actually gleam the original intention of the show from its theme song "but where are those good old fashioned values (in television), that we used to rely?"; the show was meant to be about a family trying to better themselves, usually gleaming wisdom from lifes many lessons from tv. went a bit off the rails there, but its not impossible to describe the show
If I were to describe the show to someone I'd go like this: "A family in Rhode Island called the griffens interact with their neighbors and community which result in many different scenarios happening to their surroundings"
For the question at the beginning, family, Guy is a show about toxic family going on crazy adventures together, and despite their difference is somewhat loving each other in the end Sometimes
What was your favourite Meg Griffin Moment 🤣🤣😂😂
None of them
shut up LS Mark!
When Peter placed a booger on her
When she wasn’t on screen
That one time she got kidnapped
Meg's arc is so fascinating to me. She was a badly written annoying teen girl stereotype in the beginning of the series, but instead of writing her as a better character, the show turned her into a punching bag to cater to the audience. "See guys? We think shes annoying too!"
I personally blame South Park for that, and for the edge wave that came to Adult Cartoons at the time
I think the issue comes with fans not liking her character so they changed it so that the writers made fun of her before the fans did. Then they dialed it up to the point where even the fans felt uncomfortable and then finally gave up when they realized that Meg was a lost cause.
@@nickrustyson8124 why South Park? What you mean by that? Can you be more specific?
@@nickrustyson8124i disagree. south park started before family guy. the 2000s were filled with edgey content, its not all south parks fault.
the treatment of meg as a character is unique and got to a point of nearly uncomfortable cruelty.
beating a dead horse. oe meg in this case.
@@nickrustyson8124South Park is still in the edge wave they just do a wayyyyy better job utilizing it
Really hated that episode where Meg finally stood up to her family but just apologized at the end
And it was Brian’s fault she apologized too!
a hat in time :D
yeah, that infuriated me as a kid.
This might be the most original opinion I have ever heard
And after that episode, there was an episode revolving around domestic violence and trying to play for "realism"/. How. Freaking. Ironic.
"Meg is pointless"
Meanwhile, Cleveland's kids are cardboard cutouts in the background never allowed to talk. Or Joe's kids except like once every 10 years, but don't worry, Quagmire gets all the time he needs to drag down an episode.
Meg is a main character
And now Quagmire's more boring because he's not allowed to be a walking sex joke anymore. So like Meg, they're just throwing things at the wall trying to figure out what sticks. Giggity.
@@dustinvance243 More than boring, he's an obnoxious Karen who wants to bully and lecture everyone around him
@@Tadicuslegion78And the writer made that whole speech for him to Brian because they wanted to show the audience “oh, he’s so based! See, we hate Brian too!” When all of Quagmire’s points are hypocritical. At this point Quagmire is just the “based and red-pilled” character
Meg is supposed to be a main character. She's in the main family
“Describe Family Guy to me.”
“Shut up, Mark.”
Thought it was funny huh
To be honest, Meg's abuse got very old and tired before she became boring again. It's actually nice to see her get better treatment! 😅
Ok
I think American Dad portrayed the daughter character better than family guy ever did. Haley was a sort of punching bag for Stan to throw jabs at, but she was her own character that was interesting and will be shown in a good light once in awhile when the focus isn't on Stan. Episodes show her good traits when they're about her. She has emotional moments with Stan too. Idk if this really made any sense, but Haley is a better Meg.
Not to mention a lot of the tension between the two comes from their differing political opinions. Peter just hates Meg because he finds her annoying.
@@phabiorules I agree. I love the episode from, i believe season 1, where they explain where this political tension comes from. Like their early moments and how much they loved each other, until she grew up and realized she didn't support this same side. I think it's a great dynamic between the two. I also personally love that episode Lol
She also dose not just take the abuse all the time. She stands up for her self. We also we Stan dose love Haley and care about her.
@@phabiorules Also, because there's a sort of justification, it always comes off more like Stan sees her as a dumb kid that doesn't know what she's talking about; and not like he just hates her.
Definitely helps that she's proven right sometimes, and not just a punching bag.
She's the result of an affair by Lois, if I remember correctly. It doesn't really excuse it but it does explain it.
I still don’t understand why the Writers think making Meg Likable is so Hard when it’s so Easy.
The thing is as well, they already succeeded in that during the bully years.
Meg got bullied but still did a ton of honorable things which showed how selfless she was. That poem she wrote about hope was honestly beautiful.
But then the writers felt a need to justify their bullying of Meg by making her a bad person and giving her lines like "I'm part of a group that trashes Anne Frank's house every year"... like cmon how are we gonna root for a person who does that?
They should've just taken bully-years Meg and removed the bullying.
they dont know how to write her, which sounds like an excuse at this point after so many years. they can just hire someone or practice making teen girl characters in the show in the background if they wanted to start even learning so they can put more effort into her. I know some have daughters, they could literally take from their own experiences.
It's almost like Mila Kunis is the awful person they are making fun of huh? @@sarahweekes4829
Probably because Mila Kunis is insufferable
@@ArunaUtd Hell, I just read that kind of characterization as her being psychological fucked over by being raised by a self-destructive man child and a selfish rich bitch.
I never understood all the hate towards Meg, she isn’t ugly or rude to anyone. She just kinda exists.
she looks just like Lois who is considered attractive by the show's standards. It never made any sense.
That’s kind of the point
@@Hanako-Kun-t9bMeg fat. Lois no fat. Fam guy
@@Hanako-Kun-t9bmaybe she has a better body and no glasses? 🤔
@@RCX_Sco1 I call her chubby at best
I was never that much into Family Guy, but I did still notice the shift between the early seasons and the later ones in terms of how Meg was treated. And as some have pointed out: It's shocking that Peter being an abusive prick to her, but making a speech in private to Meg that he still loves her, and just has to keep acting the way he does to seem cool is considered to "have heart", whereas if this was at any point said by Homer Simpson to Lisa, it'd be considered the most insulting modern Simpsons episode ever.
Family Guy: A Simpsons-style animated comedy starring an eccentric family that places its cast into a variety of situations, differentiating itself from its contemporaries with edgier humor, musical numbers, a reliance on unrelated “cutaway gags”, and references and parodies to beloved films and TV.
Good description
Early Seasons: _"Shut Up Meg"_
Modern Seasons: _"Who's Meg?"_
Also modern seasons: F*ck off Meg
I mean, is it better to get negative attention or no attention at all?
@@XxHipxX no attention is better then straight up abuse, but it's just as bad
They’re going through the fazes of abuse
@@dabatman5187 faze clan
I'm gonna take a crack at that challenge:
Family Guy is an adult animated Television show which showcases the adventures the citizens of Quahog get into. Its humor is usually derived from pop culture references, references to the 80s, or the shows unique "Cut-a-way" gags. It shows almost no continuity.
Edit: Sad that I have to even SPECIFY this, but no, this was not written by AI. I simply thought for a solid minute or two on how to describe the show without name dropping the Griffins.
I applaud how you were able to do this without directly referencing the family itself
pretty solid
@@LSMark family guy is about a dysfunctional family
Pretty good, only one problem: made using AI
@@keatonrozema5787 ..... And what, pray tell, led you to THAT conclusion?
I'd say Family Guy (intially at least) is about a dad (the titular "family guy") trying to raise his family from what he learned watching family sitcoms, "good old-fashion values" but applying them so literally/exaggerated that the hypocrisy of it being better than modern day television is shown.
Or its just takes the premise of the Simpsons household, makes every member able to talk, and add cut-away gags.
This is surprisingly deep. It's probably a more thoughtful take on the show than Seth MacFarlane himself has ever given.
Honestly, this is something I’ve noticed with a lot of media tbh. A lot of writers don’t take criticism seriously.
If you say “I don’t like how Meg is treated.” A lot don’t go “ok let’s take a look at what we’re doing and what people are saying”. They seem to just go on an extreme. Either they do a complete 180 and make whatever was complained about worse in the opposite direction, or they just start stripping away bits and pieces without actually improving what’s left
It’s like if you said “I don’t like the sauce on this meat loaf, I wish it were sweeter” and the chef either removes meatloaf entirely from the menu or starts coating it in pounds and pounds of sugar. It doesn’t fix the problem, it just makes the problem different. It feels kinda, narcissistic in a way. Like they think their idea is good so to show you why yours is shit, they go on the most extreme they can with it and make it shit so they can then go “well, we tried it your way and you still hate it so???”
Honestly makes me kinda hate a lot of writing teams in that regard. It feels like I’m just being talked down to in a way
Exactly. They probably know their critics have a point but they don’t want to change, so they misrepresent the criticisms so that they can say their way is better or that the critics don’t know what they are talking about. It’s frustrating to see but there really isn’t much that can be done about it because we can’t really force them to change. We can’t force them to listen to us so they will continue to do what they want for as long as possible until eventually they can’t anymore or people stop watching their show after taking off their rose tinted glasses and realize it kinda sucks
0:23 Family guy is about the griffin family and their tomfoolery.
When I’m at my lois, I’m still a family guy.
keep cooking 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You were supposed to say "Even at my Lois, I Meg it happen."
Even at my Lois, I’m still griffin it my all
even at my lois im still brian my best
"That's me at my Lois, no Peter Griffin" - Denzel Curry
(first 4-5 seasons) Family guy is a show about a dysfunctional family who get into wacky shenanigans
(rest of the show) Family guy is a show about a family of awful people doing awful things to each other and strangers while reminiscing over pop culture references.
Honestly i still like family guy. Its just my trashy show I like to watch. Probably the same reason why people watch real housewives
My thoughts exactly this is what family guy is, not hard to come up with this fact.
First 6-7
Correction: Terrible people do a bunch of stupid random shit while making references every 7.86 seconds
Hot take: the new one is better. The random stupidity makes it stand out more. By still having a heart and real moments, it's too much of a Simpsons ripoff
I can’t stand what they did with Meg. When she FINALLY stood up to her family and called them out, I thought her character arc was going to skyrocket. Nope. The writers make her apologize and go back to be the punching bag. 😒 I got tired of the abuse for nothing. Not only does her family hate her, the whole town does and I never understood it for her character.
“Remember, if your family constantly abuses you, that’s a good thing because it makes everyone else feel better”
- family guy
@@YodaOnABenderare you actually trying to treat family guy like it has moral messages? 🤣
@@truanalain4266 I will when the show presents it like a moral message going on about that stupid “it’s important for someone to be the lightning rod and absorb everybody else’s anger” bullshit
@@YodaOnABenderI mean, it's family guy. they can do an episode about quagmire's sister being abused and how domestic abuse is wrong, but it's still family guy and you're still a moron for thinking that family guy has good moral messaging
@@YodaOnABender Its insane they really try to make it sound like she was doing the right thing. 😂
Family Guy is basically just Seth McFarlane's version of The Simpsons but with cutaway gags and more violence and ruder jokes and more swearing.
I never understood why meg was considered ugly when she looks like a copy of lois(who is considered very attractive), but with brown hair and glasses. Hell, in the episode where they make her "hot" they just dyed her hair blonde and changed her outfit.
It was always strange whenever the show tried to make her seem ugly or unattractive. It feels like that trope where a female character has glasses, but the moment she takes them off, she's suddenly drop-dead gorgeous. Like her high school friends fit the "unappealing buttmonkey" way more than Meg ever could.
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When she worked as a TSA agent, she was the most attractive one working there.
How do you people miss the point so badly?
@@kalecccxi333 I'm all ears on trying to find out the point I'm missing apparently.
It’s more confusing to me because she looks almost exactly like Lois, who is apparently super hot?
Remember when the characters had actual depth and personality rather than just being one constant stereotype in place for a joke? Neither do I
"Hey Lois, remember the time we had depth and weren't just stereotypes?"
Imagine if this was a cutaway gag
Pepperidge farm remembers
Like Chris wanted to be an artist
@BB-te8tc If it was, then the screen would've just faded into an empty black void.
"That thing that plays under all the TikTok videos with the talking dog"
What did I win ?
Nothing! m.th-cam.com/video/w3Z3GG1lV5I/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUYV2hhdCBkaWQgaSB3aW4_IE5vdGhpbmch&t=0m6s
Family Guy plays under Family Guy?
بیلاخ طلایی
Yes, your reward will be sent to you once family guy ends
@@paxdamaxgaming4920 the question is what i win not if i win
Speaking of useless things, it's crazy how the clone high reboot basically went from a charming parody of teen dramas to basically just a teen drama with a few jokes.
3:47 holy shit that cut was phenomenal
Megs only trait was punching bag for half the shows run and once the writers even got sick of that, she feels pointless now!
To be fair, I prefer her current situation more. Yes, it's boring, but I prefer innocent boring characters compared to innocent punching bags (I am talking generally, it can work if the character stands up for themself, or learns to, or if the pain is more cartoonish than mean spirited and they recover quick).
@@medusasea791the other way is more funny though and she’s a fake character anyways 😂
@@justaneditygangstar I mean ofcourse, there's only so many times you can beat up the same character before it's just kinda sad. Like it's not morally wrong or anything, but at best, it's a dead joke, and at worst, it's just kinda... weird feeling.
It's like squidward. Like at a certain point, I just don't care to see him in pain. He's just a pretentious bitter asshole. I get making fun of doing "Avant Garde Clarinet" but I don't wanna see him get a toenail violently ripped out. It's just kinda disgusting.
I remember Mark saying in his every Family Guy episode review that everyone hating Meg is like Homer strangling Bart & it struck me that unlike Homer & Bart' s dynamic, Meg's only comedic angle was her misery. I even remember episodes where Meg would dissappear for the episode's remainder after one joke where something bad happens to her.
I imagine a lot of that was just down to Mila Kunis being very busy and not having much time to record for the show other than a handful of lines for episodes. She doesn't really tend to do much work now, but she was still a huge leading actress when in the 2000's and 2010's, and having a main or big supporting role in movies is far more time consuming than a lot of people really tend to think. Now though, she tends to focus more on her family, and isn't acting in two or three movies/shows a year, so her schedule is far more accommodating to record Family Guy episodes than it was 10, 15 years ago.
@@gamemaker1802then why did she take over the role in the first place?
Genuinely a little depressing seeing those clips from "Chitty Chitty Death Bang" in the intro where Peter was genuinely excited about Meg's cheerleading tryouts and encouraging of her ambitions. That was actually the first Family Guy ep I ever caught on Adult Swim as a little kid 😭 It's so strange seeing that scene back to back with the lightning rod monologue from "Seahorse Seashell Party". Family Guy was never a show about consistency or anything, but it's weird to see it go from sugar to cyanide to just flavorless chalk dust today.
8:09 lol Mark don't tell me you've been using a Fanon site for sources in your vids, because that's pretty funny if you are. That's not the actual Family Guy wiki dude.
Fanon is a portmanteau of Fan Canon, aka fanfiction. it's even on the front page of the site you used: "A collaborative wiki dedicated to two things: the creations and ideas of all fans of the Family Guy, and rewriting the hit 1999 classic!"
Lots of franchises have "fanon" wikis which are completely unrelated to the actual wikis, you should always avoid fanon places if what you're looking for is purely a cataloguing of canon and official works for a series/franchise.
0:34 oh yeah?
Family Guy is a show about a family who have many misadventures together or seperetly, with a bunch of fisical comedy and gags (their most popular format being the cutaway gags)
Meg
Family guy is a show about a family living through what is considered a normal day in rhode island while seth macfarlane occasionally changes the channel to a different animated comedy show every couple of gags
hey lois
Ah, the good old "I mistook a Fanon wiki with a FanDOM wiki". The former are effectively collective fanfics in wiki form (They're the ones responsible of things like Lucina from Fire Emblem being Peppa Pig's nemesis, for example)
I did not realize there was a difference...
I was so confused when I made that mistake with the kids next door fanon wiki. Like, when did all these characters get married and have kids?
@@LSMark yeah fanDOM wiki is the legit one, for better or worse LOL
I kind of want to know the context behind the Lucina/Peppa Pig rivalry, but also I think any actual explanation couldn't be as funny as there being no explanation at all and just letting the idea bathe in all its surreal glory.
Fanon = Fan canon. so as OP said, fanfics basically. Or commonly-accepted elements amongst a subgroup of fans that aren’t truly canon, but said group is willing to treat as true.
Family Guy is a series about 5 people and Chris who try to survive another day of their miserable lives, but if they die, they live again next week.
Singling out the REAL pointless character, I see.
I too was unsettled by that message Mr Enter would put at the start of his old videos when I was a kid, and the old intro he had for Animated Atrocities in 2014 because the music was scary-sounding
6:48 "It's like they knew they could get away with anything".
Did you think you'd get away with that visual glitch? lol
Family guy used to be about how a family guy tried to use TV tropes/Pop culture to raise his family, which ended up failing miserably and forcing said father to learn about it. It's famous for their cut-a-way gags to add comedy, which were usually an entertaining flashback who actually contributed to the plot.
Really?
@@jddi1527Nope, not really.
The Smiths from American Dad feels more like a family than FAMILY Guy The Griffins for a long time.
Big time. Though the Griffin’s did also feel like a real family in the earlier seasons.
Let's be real, even though American Dad is better the smiths are still bad people, just like the griffins. They're both made by Seth MacFarlane and probably have a lot of the same work staff.
I dunno man, i think they're a little bit tooooo close.
Ya know, the in*est jokes and such XD.
**cracks knuckles**
Family Guy is a TV series about the humorous day-to-day adventures of the citizens of Quahog, said humor usually manifesting in pop-culture references and cutaway gags.
I didn't use AI, I swear. This is me writing.
The sonic unleashed music in the background just sent me back to the past
0:23 It’s about Peter Griffin
I can’t stand how there are a few episodes where Meg can shake up the status quo like with her bond with peter on the college tour or when she stands up for herself and it just never amounts to anything and makes you question what the point of that was
My attempt at a family guy description:
The show follows a family of five in quahog, Rhode Island. The family gets into shenanigans everyday, and the humor that comes along with it is equally as random.
You proved your point that was ridiculously hard for no reason any description comes off as bland.
It’s a sitcom, it’s not a show you’re supposed to binge.
Try describing what the Simpsons or Full House are about
8:13 The site you saw wasn't an actual Family Guy wiki. It is a fanon wiki. Fanon wikis are wikis where people make their own series, episodes, movies, and games out of their favorite IPs.
Plus even assuming it was the actual Wiki his criteria for what's a real episode is if he can find it on hulu, when streaming services remove episodes of cartoons all the time. By that criteria, the panty raid episode of Spongebob never existed, because the iconic episode that played all the time on Nick has a Wiki page but no Hulu listing.
Bro the title was right there!!
“Lois Griffin: A Maternal Mess”
as a kid i always had a soft spot for meg, but maybe that's just because my family always told me i was the 'meg' of the family
The episode where family Guy had her go "wow I guess I NEED to be abused" only for them to write a 'serious' episode about Quagmire's sister being abused (which btw they heavily imply that she's in the wrong or weak for) made it so I could never take any serious moments from quagmire as genuine
I like it how when meg actually stands up for herself, she becomes unlikeable
i love how toonrifictariq put it
it's about a man who tries to bring fortune to his family through the morals he learned through tv. shit just makes sense
Family Guy is an animated sitcom about a disfunction family and their crazy antics, with some cutaway gags.
That's the best I can do.
Early family guy: Animated sitcom of your average family getting into crazy shenanigans
Modern Family Guy: Horrible people doing horrible things
Peter went from being an exact copy of Homer Simpson personality-wise to a huge abusive asshole who I want to say Lois should file a divorce on, but even she became as bad as Peter as time went on for the show's run.
3:09 Springtrap is my favorite family guy character.
“Boy this is worse than the time I worked at Fazbear’s Fright!”
In the past:
Everyone:"Shut Up Meg !"
Nowadays:
Everyone:"Please Meg do something...Something Meg !"
“When I was a young kid, at around 10…”
Your parents let you watch Family Guy at 10? My parents only let me when I was 13 and still only certain episodes 💀
My mum got really upset and banned me from watching after seeing a segment where Peter dreams about killing Lois but that ban only lasted about a week
@@LSMarkYou watched a LOT of Family Guy when you were 10, didn’t you lmao
I remember when I was 4-5, I would just watch adult swim or nick at nite. The only scene I remember was Stewie killing Lois in the episode when she and Peter went on a cruise.
@@LSMarkhow did you survive during such family guy deprivation
I can't watch it until I'm older (born in 2010)
Does it count if i say family guy is about terrible people doing terrible things
The part at 8:25 about episodes not existing
They do exist but Hulu has censored them and removed them. Any episode that’s anti-Semitic, has black face, or is unnecessarily offensive has been removed. Screw Hulu for that and any other streaming platform
At the same time
The rape joke about quagmire and marge wasnt even funny
i think toonrifictariq perfectly described family guy.
a middle aged father who tries to apply television logic into different scenerios, some of the time tries to apply it to parenting. while doing that, also paroding pop culture, and current events.
I was also gonna say toonrifictariq's head cannon always felt like the best family guy premise to me
Basically that description also fits perfectly with The Simpsons
Family Guy is a show about cartoon characters trying to preform a family sitcom as they gradually get more and more unhinged until getting tired and then burning out entirely as the seasons moved on. I still love the line where someone points out a contradiction or something and Peter goes "I don't know its all just jokes."
The "Live in Vegas" album really helps make my point clear
Hey Lois, remember the time LS Mark made a 15 minute video about our daughter?
I think modern meg is a badass. She’s athletic, talented, and has basically stopped caring about how other see her, instead focusing on her own goals. I love modern Meg
“Family guy is about a family of five and a talking dog and their wacky antics with occasional violence and foes with may cutaway gags” boom there
Family Guy is about Peter Griffin and his family’s antics
…………
I always felt bad for Meg
Cool! That's the female Gundam from G Gundam! I've been wanting to watch that show! 😁
Family guy is a show about Walter Hartwell White
it's about chinnuts
The pfp makes this 100x funnier somehow
@@3MB3Rx134Yours sucks though.
No
Family guy is a show where there is a family, a dad, mum, and three children and two friends of the dad who hang out at a bar
my best job at describing family guy in my mind is “Family Guy is an animated skit show” 😭😭
This is the biggest flaw for a long-running show to me when long running shows who create their characters under a certain cultural era and then are forced to change them later. They ultimately forget what made the character special and just choose the more wacky traits and ignore the more nuanced and complex ones leaving the character feeling soulless.
Would be interesting to see how Haley Smith, another daughter in a sitcom life, has turned out. Probably more, since American Dad has a lil more depth to the family.
I've started watching American dad again since i was a kid and man these later seasons do treat her with equal respect as the rest of the family with is little but equal. Everyone in the smith family is always equally in the wrong at times, it reminds me kinda more of it's always sunny now then family guy. Haley doesn't feel like a punching bag, she feels like a character who can be wrong and do terrible things but so is everyone else
@@twigwigsosoI quite agree and it’s also nice that they learn from each other and call out each other, so it’s more fair. Also Francine and Hayley are much better feminists than Lois and Meg.
The last I saw, Hayley was kinda going on an arc of turning slowly into Stan.
@@owenleal Okay
And Hayley IS Not the puncging bag ITS Klause
“Megatron”
*ROBOTS IN DISGUISE.*
family guy is a show about peters crazy life, and the shenanigans he, his family, and friends get into while sometimes focusing on other character's of the show to mix it up.(Bite me mark.)
0:25 I guess I'd say Family Guy is just simply about the random adventures and mischief of the Griffins and how each situation affects the family and/or their dynamic (until its returns to the status quo at the end of every episode)
my man went to a fanon wiki and was shocked to find things that were fanon.
I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE
I enjoy the times they make Meg unhinged, but it's obvious the crew have no idea what to do with her character
3:08 Ah yes my favorite Family Guy Character, Spiringtrap
Family Guy is about TV, it's about tropes, you can see this in the opening where the characters sing about how TV is always the same, you can see in the second section that all the characters act as if they know it's a show and the title itself has a TV symbol. Notice how almost every joke subverts common tropes, even when it's about politics you see them heavly criticizing the ideology presented in the joke, I can remember Chris showing up in a Trump joke and he said "Look! I wrote this joke(gets angry expression) THAT'S WHAT YOU DESERVE (type of people name I can't remember)" or something like that, it showed how Family Guy is even parodyzing jokes that take a clear political position, I remember those people who comment "haha family guy is wild, no one is safe!" Yeah, neither you.
Now let's take my favourite episodes, the ones where Stewie kills Lois, if we analyze it, it's played very meta and parody-like, Stewie feels like another Stewie, the plot gets bizzarre even for Family Guy standards, it was played as if it was the defenitive ending of Family Guy, and how does it end? It was all a simulation, Brian asks Stewie if people are gonna be mad about this and he says that yes they do but they should enjoy the ride. If that doesn't prove that Family Guy is about common TV tropes... I don't know what it is. Family Guy is the OG meta-narrative, that's why it works with it and with shows such as Velma it doesn't, because with Family Guy it's the whole point
Family Guy is about that time something happened and those who remember it.
Crack at the challenge:
Family guy is a comedy show made by Seth Macfarlene.
Family guy is about a dad who is obsessed with tv from the past, trying to find a decade to live in. and needs to learn to move forward. that's why in the theme song it has "It seems today that all you see
Is violence in movies and sex on TV But where are those good old-fashioned values... On which we used to rely?!"
Easy challenge.
Family Guy is about a group of actors playing the roles of a nuclear family whilst getting into misadventures that lead to either perilous, emotional or severe situations with inconvenient cutaways.
I see
Family Guy is about a severely dysfunctional and spiteful family that desperately needs therapy, as well as some cut ties. Each character has their own flaws, and over time they show more and more. The cycle of abuse, ignoring, and simple stupidity almost never cracks, and their "friends"/neighbors don't help in any way with it.
Meg is like if the Simpsons never stopped the running gag of Homer physically abusing Bart, and also made that joke Barts entire character.
11:06
"You guys always act like you're better than me!"
Family guy is an adult animated comedy about a family and their friends and neighbors getting into various silly antics.
fanon wikis are a bane to people trying to research any basic information about any series
Family guy:
An animated sitcom about a dysfunctional family in a dysfunctional town.
Family guy is a show about the decline of a happy family into one that hates eachother and constantly abuses one another through endless hijinks
Some dumb detail I notice about later season Family Guy episodes is when they do that thing when 2 characters are talking and you see the back of one character's head and it has a shadow regardless of the environment they're in. The sun can be shining directly on the back of their heads and there will still somehow be a shadow where the light is shining
That "take a bullet for Meg" edit was next level, thank you
1:45 THAT! Yes I want to see the pitch bible for Family Guy so badly!!!
Okay since you asked for engagement in the comments:
Family Guy is semi-parody of old-school 80's and 90's family-centric sitcoms, that is itself heavily inspired by The Simpsons. The show takes various tropes and aspects about it's characters and stretches them to obscene, sometimes shocking lengths for the sake of making jokes or sometimes simply humorous observations about some widely shared tropes and character dynamics present in those kinds of stories. It stars something resembling a standard cast for one of these shows, with a couple of twists like the dog and baby also being intelligent and sometimes malicious.
Beyond that it is simply an episodic comedy that bounces between acting as something of a parody to those older shows and also taking random bits of it's own setting and lore and stretching them out.
So yeah it is kind of hard to do without listing off the characters at all, though in all fairness i'd have similar trouble doing this with The Simpsons any better.
Family guy is a comedic slice of life adult animation that centers around The Griffin Family and their weekly antics. mostly focused on Peter, the patriarch (that felt weird to type), it allows follows the exploits of his wife Lois, his 2 teenaged children Chris and Meg, as well as his infant genius/gay baby stewie and their dog Brian. episodes typically center around an A and B plot, where the A plot focuses on Peters adventures, the B plot will showcase the familys exploits (and usually how peters antics can have an effect on them).
although the show began more as a humble recreation of older 80's/90's sitcoms (think family matters or full house), the show quickly became more about surreal and sometime horrific episode plots (including the baby getting pregnant, or getting herpes, or building a time machine. or peter and his friends finding god???). you can actually gleam the original intention of the show from its theme song "but where are those good old fashioned values (in television), that we used to rely?"; the show was meant to be about a family trying to better themselves, usually gleaming wisdom from lifes many lessons from tv.
went a bit off the rails there, but its not impossible to describe the show
10:35 yo that thumbnail goes super hard
Ls mark sold me fent
So wholesome 🤣🤣
The S stands for Fent
If I were to describe the show to someone I'd go like this: "A family in Rhode Island called the griffens interact with their neighbors and community which result in many different scenarios happening to their surroundings"
Family guy is about a man in his 40s using lessons from TV shows he grew up with to raise his family.
The Griffin Family slowly crumbles as every season passes by going on wacky yet horrible adventures.
Family is an animated show about the family and their friends and neighbors as they get into ridiculous and over the top antics
Boo. Luigi jumpscare.
Hello there, Mark, lmao.
For the question at the beginning, family, Guy is a show about toxic family going on crazy adventures together, and despite their difference is somewhat loving each other in the end Sometimes
Honestly sometimes i cant even watch the scenes with meg as it reminds me so much of how my father and brother treat me