And that's a trick question. Thanks to the status quo, Peter and Lois are doomed to be together no matter what because the status quo required them to be married. Come to think of it, Cleveland is the luckiest guy in the show. Unlike Peter and Joe, he was able to divorce Loretta early in the show and he later remarried with Donna Tubs. While Cleveland's new family had very little screentime, none of the Brown family seems to hate each other compared to everyone else. Cleveland was able to have a healthy family dynamic while his friends are in some type of hell.
Actually, there was a really recent episode where Lois said “Peter.. I want a divorce” and Peter responded “if we divorce I’m killing myself” Lois sighed, took out a newspaper and started reading, then the credits rolled I am not kidding btw
A character trait I miss from Lois in the earlier seasons was when they aligned Lois with Peter's sense of humor. An example being "Hey Lois, diarrhea" joke, where she finds the word diarrhea as hilarious as Peter. These type of jokes were mainly done to subvert your expectations of Lois reaction to get a funny joke. But it's little moments like that makes Peter and Lois marriage feel more special then a standard sitcom marriage. It was actually a key point of Lois's backstory where she fell in love with Peter, because he was himself compared to her rich friends and family. But naturally as the show went on they relied heavy on the mean spirited bad marriage/affair jokes. Personally I feel the marriages in the adult animated comedies work best, when the two characters actually enjoys their partner's eccentric personality traits. Example being Homer & Marge, Bob & Linda, and Stan & Francine.
well, cause in reality those types of men are asses lol Maybe some life experiences started to seep through in the writing, i woulod be mad as hell too living with peter lol. Let her cheat, just like homer and the 10+ episodes of him having affairs
in fact they specifically had them share a sense of humour to actually give them a a common trait to bring them togetehr as a couple rather than just have them be a couple for no reason. And then hey forgot that and decided her beign miserable and bitchy was better than being likable or have any love for any of hr family.
Lois always had that more aggressive side to her character since the series' first season, but it was always complimented by her genuine love for her kids and and her husband. Nowadays, if her character isn't a hyper-aggressive nag, it's being labeled "Quahog's whore" with the amount of times she cheated on Peter.
@@ismaelrizo7707eh not really, Bonnie has her love/hate relationship with Joe but they always have a better bond I guess. Peter and Lois started out nice, only for them to turn her into a female Quagmire. Thirsty for any other man than Peter
@@mastertjt56 when you put like that, it kind of makes sense. I guess to me Bonnie was more like diet Lois. Since she hates Joe in the later seasons, literally cheating on him on multiple occasions and getting upset with him for cheating on her once. Not only that, she really plans on killing him.
I was gonna mention that something I love that Bob's Burgers doesn't do that shockingly every other adult animated family show does is have a cheating episode. Or in the case of the Simpsons and Family Guy, MANY cheating episodes. Bob and Linda love each other to the extreme and wouldn't give each other up for anything. The closest they got was the seaplane episode, but Linda headbutts the guy and calls him an idiot for trying to get with her. They are inseparable C:
Lois's old voice was so sweet and motherly. In late season three it became more high pitched, which was less motherly but also had a nice charm which complemented her new personality. But they've made it incredibly gargle-y to the point where she sounds like an old lady in a failing marriage. Oh wait
Say what you want about the Simpson's family dynamic, you can't deny that they still feel like a family, instead of a bunch of psychopaths constantly trying to kill each other.
Exactly, yes. I will always have a special place in my heart for The Simpsons. I just outgrew the series is all whereupon I chose to stick with South Park and Futurama. Family Guy bought my hatred years ago.
@@SexandtheCityGirli haven't been able to deal with south park in years. the edgy gen x nihilism thing got old after a while. king of the hill is a flawless show. it's real life turned up just enough to where it works better as a cartoon...
@anthonyrowland9072 I used to be into King of the Hill for many years but I swapped that for American Dad. I agree that KOTH is flawless. These two shows and also Futurama are so very underrated. South Park is not for everyone, I won't force that on people at all but I will be more defensive towards Futurama and American Dad.
American dad is pretty cringe with how they do not just her but all the character. It's seems less like a deliberate choice and more like they eventually got bored with their own show.
@@brainthebrian3690it was more fun before mcfarlene realized it was good and popular. Then when he got involved it go weirder in some good ways but theres more bad than good ways i feel now.
My thoughts on this can be summed up as: Altough Francine Smith has canonically done much wose things, Id still trust her more to take care of my 1 year old niece than Lois.
In the beginning of the show, Lois was seen as the glue that held the family together, the more responsible one and the voice of reason against Peter, even offering words of wisdom to the rest of the family, with the exception of Stewie. There were times that she snapped due to the pressure and you understood why she did so and you couldn't blame her, with Peter or the one responsible for this apologizing at the end of the episode. Now she is just as, if not more, reckless than Peter.
I feel like once they changed Lois character it threw the series off I think most comedy sitcoms need a voice of reason for the series if not it just becomes a silly sketch show
That “hottest moms” list parody at the beginning was very 2008-2010ish, and I love it! I also love how one of the choices is Coral from Finding Nemo, and he just called her “fish” 😂
It’s amazing that Francine is infinitely better written than Lois. When there’s a Francine episode It’s usually a good sign, when it’s a Lois episode you’re preparing to zone out. Also Francine is hotter 🏄♂️
I totally agree with you on this. Lois (and the entire Family Guy cast, really) were better when they were more grounded. They were a dysfunctional family who still loved each other at the end of the day. The humour came from watching Peter do something stupid while Lois had to deal with him. At the end of the episode, it would all come together and was occasionally even heartwarming. Now we get a bunch of non-sequiturs about Peter/Lois/etc. just being terrible. The writers forgot that being mean isn't funny in and of itself. When Sterling Archer is a jerk, I don't laugh because he's being a jerk; I laugh because either A) He's going to succeed and make everyone mad that he was right while he gloats like a kid, or B) he's going to have it backfire terribly and face the consequences of his actions hilariously. Lois and Peter don't get that; they just get to be jerks with no real punchline. Great stuff as usual, Mark. Thanks for the video.
After finally finishing Archer yesterday, I kept thinking about it a lot during the points of the video. Mallory is my prime example of an complete asshole who is genuinely funny and also loves her son to death
I mean after all, he was a young kid, around 10 he wants to say, one of his favorite shows was the popular adult sitcom known as family guy. I think we all know that at this point, but it's nice seeing him make that clear in every Family Guy video.
all aspects of Lois Griffin are just made 4 times better by Francine with the twist that she actually cares for her family (she's also funny enough to have chemistry with all the family members, but that can be said by everyone in the Smith family)
Was going to say Francine Smith is better and what you said there about American Dad sums up why I'm still able to tolerate the Smith family and the show American Dad itself.
@AnimeLover4Life3395 That's what I figure. I don't think American Dad is better and nor do I like it more than the other. Just that AD is the only one of the two shows I can still tolerate watching, so to speak.
@@TheMightofDabBrian used to be an actual character subverting expectations by being a pretty grounded character whilst also being a dog. But after a while Seth McFarland kept inserting himself into him where now he’s just a snobby alcoholic who just sees woman as objects. Just like Seth does internally.
No matter how bad Lois became; Peter had the worst fate out of any character. He went from being a doofus with a heart of gold to the arguably the worst character of his own show.
Kinda like how they did Goku in dragon ball, he used to be ignorant but had a lot of common sense, now he’s an utter dingus obsessed with fighting to the point he puts his *world* on the line
pretty realistic though, just saying lol. don't ever expect a parent in a disfunctional household to hold their partner accountable when they can just blame the kids and have them shut up. i don't know, i guess none of this stirs me up so much since it's pretty grounded in my opinion lol. this is exactly how this type of family would go downhill over time. Not to say the show is doing it on purpose or trying tio be realistic lol
@@magical571 How do you *NOT* hold a parent accountable for hurting their own children. Fuck you mean *lol* like this crappy show is a joke? Exactly why it's not funny anymore. Only commentary section edgelords like you sit up trying to 🧢 for child abuse. Goofy.
@@magical571Got a point. I've seen the dynamic between mothers and daughters when I dated and it's... It can get bad dude. Some moms seem like the hate their daughters or rather jealous of them. Like the arguments I've seen are horrific.
I’m convinced that Mark took one look at his poll, saw that Lois had the most votes at first, and told his editor to work on it, even though a majority of us voted for Stewie.
Personally I prefer “Quirky” Lois to “Mid-Life Crisis” Lois, just because I find her episodes during this era far more intriguing and less mean-spirited as a whole, but I can totally see where you’re coming from.
my favorite lois joke is the one where peter says something about diarrhea and lois starts laughing at it too. idk why but it's really funny in my eyes
One of my least favorite aspects of family guy is how completely unbearable the characters can be at times. Lois was one of the worst examples but I think Quagmire, Brian, or Peter may be a little worse in my opinion. She became an awful person toward the family and would lose her temper constantly, taking it out on them. Also the show has this bizarre mindset later on where they think sexualizing her, because she's a woman I guess, is meant to be like a joke or something but its never funny. That Simpsons jab is in my opinion, one of the most uncomfortable things I ever sat through. Again though, her being awful to the family is just so infurating to watch. I get its the norm to have every character in an adult animated comedy to be an asshole, but seriously, all it does is ruin my investment cause every single character can just get away with anything. Those kind of jokes can be funny, but having each of the cast be a prick to accommodate for it all the time, just makes thing miserable. Sorry for the tangent but I guess the subject of cartoon characters being irredeemable dickheads is a subject I'm very passionate about.
I always thought that meanness is not automatically funny. People who make shows like this think they can just say or do something mean and then expect the viewer to laugh.
@@roberttreacy8271It feels like funny=mean when the fun part is either when they're actually making a joke or when they get their just desserts in the end. Very few people watch Eric Cartman be an asshole because that in of itself is funny. They watch him because of the way he goes about it or when he suffers the consequences of his actions.
Yeah Quagmire was made into a hyper-rapist and has this weird feud with Brian, who himself is obnoxious and taking lots of screentime. It's said that Family Guy devolved into the Stewie & Brian show and Brian is clearly inferior to Stewie in every way.
@roberttreacy8271 Yup Peter is a jerk. Brian is a jerk. Lois is a jerk. Quagmire is a jerk. Stewie I guess you could also put in the category although funnily enough he became less of a jerk over time despite originally being intended to stand out as the "bad" one.
Watching this video again after Marks community post saying that a sponsor backed out after seeing the "hottest mom" intro They just couldn't handle the tomfoolery
@@doomdimensiondweller5627fr like why choose the fully grown woman with two kids over an insecure teenage girl (literally the target audience for this stuff)
One of my favorite early season episodes was the episode where Lois takes meg on spring break, it showed that she legitimately wanted to make meg happy but was flawed in the sense that she went way overboard with partying. It was a genuinely nice episodes in my opinion
@AquaBounce1010 Thanks sometimes when I'm quickly using auto fill or try to fix my grammar to quickly reply. I miss things like that & don't even realize it
@@sonicandmylittleponyfan2002nah, Modern Simpsons has some really good episodes like pixelated and afraid or a serious flanders, and while spongebob isnt anywhere close to as good, it's still not bad. Family guy good at all
“You’re never going to get a Simpsons episode where Homer decks Marge in the jaw” When the creator of Simpsons played the Simpsons hit and run video game,the first thing he did was find the kick button and then -playing as Homer- kicked Marge across the town while laughing hysterically so it’s not out of the cards
Its not Just Peter and Lois that I hate I just hate parents in animation in general I'm so sick and tired of animation especially adult animation protraying families as dysfunctional it has honestly made me appreciate shows like Bob's Burgers, Amphibia, and The Owl House that protray loving, happy, and healthy family dynamics.
I can agree. I wish these shows would give us a reason to love these characters, but they don't. Dysfunctional can be done right, but frankly its a little overdone in adult animation shows. That being said, I don't think a lot of writers for these shows realize how funny loving families can be. I always loved how down bad Hal was for Lois, even tho it's not animation
@SporianSummit both King of the Hill and Bob's Burgers are some of the best representions of a traditional loving, happy, and healthy families and ten times better than Modern Simpson, Family Guy, and American Dad.
@@tylerbertram7065 I think modern Simpsons has gotten back to being a nicer family portrayal, but it was slipping off the rails for a while. Still, it never got anywhere NEAR what Family Guy has become.
@Marbles471 I will admit I haven't been keeping up with the Simpsons occasionally they make a good episode but more often than not modern Simpsons makes a really bad episode.
I actually kinda admire quirky Lois. At least they’re not having Lois be nice and fake on the outside, but secretly awful, she’s just outwardly bitchy. It’s like they’re fully aware that she’s a bad person and they just embrace it and gave her some pretty fun episodes
The thing is though that’s not how she was portrayed in earlier seasons In fact all the family members have had drastic changes in how they started to how they are now and I think it’s been for the worst. Look at Peter,Brian,Stewie,Meg from earlier seasons and compare them to current
I am convinced the "writers" or manatees or whomever is in charge of the scripts of family guy, hate their mothers so much they pour all their anger into Lois and that's why she's become such a shrill, heartless, cruel, insufferable **** who abuses her family and terrorizes everyone else.
You Should of titled this Video as: Lois Griffin: A Mother Without Morals Because Lois nowadays lacks restraint and discipline, along with her repeateded Emotional and Sometimes Physical Abuse of her family, Meg especially.
i remember i saw someone say the difference between lois and peter and stan and francine is that lois and peter pretend they're good people and are worse off for it which makes them hard to watch and the humor fall flat but stan and francine know they're terrible selfish ppl which makes them (for the most part) fun to watch and fits the unhinged writing style. honestly most apt reading on the differences in the way the families in family guy and american dad are written.
7:28 What he said about the Simpsons having clear guidelines and restrictions I feel could have been applied to Family Guy if the show didn't get cancelled twice and had more constancy with staff when it was being developed.
I think both Lois and Brian were the voice of reason for the show being able to pull the reigns when things got too far. Now, however, they too have become engrossed within the off the walls wacky shenanigans of the show so now there’s no one there to say no.
I liked her breakdown in that Christmas episode. I think it's what a lot of moms feel like doing during the holidays. Source: my mom. She said the episode captured the frustrations really well.
9:38 - The reason why you probably find this new episode premise most original and interesting is because the core of that idea is stolen. The premise is almost completely ripped from King of Queens (S1, EP18 I think, not sure) where one of the characters (Arthur) goes through the exact same thing with becoming obsessed with becoming the employee of the month at a Coffee Shop he doesn't work at.
It’s weird that she went from sweet and caring, to becoming a sociopath, mean spirited and cruel to everyone. Including her own family. She could’ve been the voice of reasons to her family’s dilemma, but nope. They’re afraid that she’ll be too much like Marge Simpson, so decided to turn into this cruel and abusive person. This is the reason why this series is going down hill.
well, i like that. honestly i love the simpsons, but marge infuriates me since she resembles what a wife in an abusive relationship looks like.Having to rely in old memories of infatuation, out right saying "as long as you fill up the fuel tank i'm good with you homer", pretty clearly being there because of three accidents called children, and of course she loves them (i mean, that's what expected of her and very few media will go to the place of, what if she doesn't though? what if she is doing what she can and coping?) Being expected to always be grounded, sweet and collected, forgive his husband's several affairs, fix everything for everyone, and not even the episodes were she is suppossed to either get a vacation or just break under pressure give her real space or gratitude from others. Just a, "oh, but marge, we can't have you like this, the family doesn0t work without you" great awesome now go back to your miserable life as a mid class housewife. "haha nobody here can wipe their own ass, you gotta be an overworked housewife so funny and endearing". Let the wife beat the shit out their relatives for once, honestly.
marge infuriates me. she embodies so much of what's wrong with stay at home moms in mid income households, yet the show expects you to find it endearing, when really she is just coping and doing what she can. and i say this as someone whoi loves the simpsons, but luckily they don't focus too much on her (would get really depressing and frustrating really fast. there's a reason the episodes focused on her tend to do worse than the rest)
Lois isn’t as bad as Brian, but I did really like her in older seasons. It was funny to watch her barely contain her wholesome mom facade under layers of (justified) frustration and rage. Lois going on a rampage because Meg couldn’t find paper towels will ALWAYS be better than Lois verbally and physically abusing her family
Same thing happened to Peter in the beginning of the show Peter was portrayed as a dumb guy who made mistakes but you could see just how much he cared for his family (Meg included) and always wanted to do right by them. Nowadays? They have dumbed him down and made him unbearable
One of the main reasons I started loving family guy again was when I saw the Lois coffee shop episode, it felt like family guy finally found a new thing to try out with character centric episodes and I LOVED it
That whole bed scene with them summarizes Peter and Lois’s whole relationship. Once married becaused they genuinely loved each other, but now are still married out of necessity for the kids so who cares about the infedelity because nothing matters in the show anymore. I legit need to see how these writings sessions go for each episode because there clearly a lot going on with the writers occasionally venting about the state of things in the show yet there still feels like there is a lot of missing context why it’s happening most of the time.
My most hater moment for lois is when she becomes an anti vaxxer even though in another episode before she was trying to help a religous family that didnt believe in modern medicine.
*Ls mark:* **Makes video on Brian** *Ls mark:* **Makes video on Joe** *Ls mark:* **Makes video on Quagmire** *Ls mark:* **Makes video on Lois** *Stewie:* “Oh god, is he gonna do me next!?”
I honestly would be down to see them redo some modern episodes just to see how different things would be if the cast had their personalities in the classic episodes.
You know after season four it seems that Meg is the one who took her mother’s place for being the most grounded one in the family. And thus is part of the reason why she’s treated so poorly. And in a sad way without Lois’s logical and heartfelt ways the abuse that Meg often suffers replaces Lois’s old caring ways as the family’s current day glue. If you really watch the show closely through-out the first six to seven seasons that unfortunately shows.
The reason for this was because the writers admitted they had issues with Meg's character as they didn't know how to write a teenage girl and would use her as a punching bag for jokes and abuse as a way to get back at her until it got old and annoying when fans wanted Meg to have her own voice and redemption which inevitably she did later on in the future seasons
@@travisrose3147 I liked how she actually said “I take abuse from everyone in those house but I’m not gonna take it from you” - actually called it out as abuse
I love that you use the same intro for each family guy character analysis. “When I was a young kid, when I was about ten I wanna say” gets me everytime.
What's funny is here in Los Angeles, the local news channel had ran a pole for mother's Day asking who the best cartoon TV mom was. Needless to say I was in complete SHOCK what Lois Won.
i dont understand how the characters in modern day family guy think lois is hot, they always talk about how peter doesn't deserve lois meanwhile shes just...average looking and has the worst voice 💀
Lois is a tragic character. Someone who was a grounded voice of reason and balance turned into an overbearing and destructive parent. It's sad when the deliberately written, toxic, and controlling Alana is a stronger parent and wife than Lois.
was i too harsh on louis :(
no
Hasn't seen the vid yet but probaly not she's so annoying and such a bad mother
HELL No. She's Punchable. I don't think I've ever seen a Cartoon Mother THIS horrendous.
Not at all. She's awful.
Giggity but seriously you weren't
The family has gotten so dysfunctional that the question isn't even "when will Lois divorce Peter?" to "who will file for divorce first?"
More like CPS gets involved and the adults imprisoned at this point
And that's a trick question. Thanks to the status quo, Peter and Lois are doomed to be together no matter what because the status quo required them to be married. Come to think of it, Cleveland is the luckiest guy in the show. Unlike Peter and Joe, he was able to divorce Loretta early in the show and he later remarried with Donna Tubs. While Cleveland's new family had very little screentime, none of the Brown family seems to hate each other compared to everyone else. Cleveland was able to have a healthy family dynamic while his friends are in some type of hell.
@@allendepacheco3419 Cleveland is the only objectively good character in Quahog nowadays.
Actually, there was a really recent episode where Lois said “Peter.. I want a divorce” and Peter responded “if we divorce I’m killing myself” Lois sighed, took out a newspaper and started reading, then the credits rolled
I am not kidding btw
lois. you think modern peter's smart enough?
A character trait I miss from Lois in the earlier seasons was when they aligned Lois with Peter's sense of humor. An example being "Hey Lois, diarrhea" joke, where she finds the word diarrhea as hilarious as Peter. These type of jokes were mainly done to subvert your expectations of Lois reaction to get a funny joke. But it's little moments like that makes Peter and Lois marriage feel more special then a standard sitcom marriage.
It was actually a key point of Lois's backstory where she fell in love with Peter, because he was himself compared to her rich friends and family. But naturally as the show went on they relied heavy on the mean spirited bad marriage/affair jokes. Personally I feel the marriages in the adult animated comedies work best, when the two characters actually enjoys their partner's eccentric personality traits. Example being Homer & Marge, Bob & Linda, and Stan & Francine.
well, cause in reality those types of men are asses lol Maybe some life experiences started to seep through in the writing, i woulod be mad as hell too living with peter lol. Let her cheat, just like homer and the 10+ episodes of him having affairs
in fact they specifically had them share a sense of humour to actually give them a a common trait to bring them togetehr as a couple rather than just have them be a couple for no reason.
And then hey forgot that and decided her beign miserable and bitchy was better than being likable or have any love for any of hr family.
Moxie and Millie from Helluva Boss.
Probably the best healthiest wholesome marriage in animation period.
@@tristanalain9239izumi and sig Curtis would like a word. Along with a few other couples in anime
Lois always had that more aggressive side to her character since the series' first season, but it was always complimented by her genuine love for her kids and and her husband. Nowadays, if her character isn't a hyper-aggressive nag, it's being labeled "Quahog's whore" with the amount of times she cheated on Peter.
To be honest, I thought the title of “Quahog’s whore” belong to Bonnie
@@ismaelrizo7707eh not really, Bonnie has her love/hate relationship with Joe but they always have a better bond I guess.
Peter and Lois started out nice, only for them to turn her into a female Quagmire. Thirsty for any other man than Peter
@@mastertjt56 when you put like that, it kind of makes sense. I guess to me Bonnie was more like diet Lois. Since she hates Joe in the later seasons, literally cheating on him on multiple occasions and getting upset with him for cheating on her once. Not only that, she really plans on killing him.
@@mastertjt56 My pet theory is that Joe has a cuckold fetish
@@ismaelrizo7707 yeah pretty much, at least they still somewhat care for each other compared to the others
Lois went from great mom to ……basically how Meg described her in that hurricane episode
Cringe rp bro
@LoisGriffin-zl2fp dude, stop it.
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Bob and Linda are probably have one of the most healthiest and normal marriage 😭 i freaking love them
I also absolutely love that Linda is so IN LOVE with Bob, even though Bob is a little worse for wear haha
@@jocelynsmyth6604 well see, in that case linda is on a more even level with bob, his same "league", that's why it works.
Ok
I was gonna mention that something I love that Bob's Burgers doesn't do that shockingly every other adult animated family show does is have a cheating episode. Or in the case of the Simpsons and Family Guy, MANY cheating episodes.
Bob and Linda love each other to the extreme and wouldn't give each other up for anything. The closest they got was the seaplane episode, but Linda headbutts the guy and calls him an idiot for trying to get with her. They are inseparable C:
Also Hank and Peggy.
Lois's old voice was so sweet and motherly. In late season three it became more high pitched, which was less motherly but also had a nice charm which complemented her new personality. But they've made it incredibly gargle-y to the point where she sounds like an old lady in a failing marriage.
Oh wait
Moments with her old voice were also a lot funnier
Forty-something isn't old... is it?
420th like
Better than marge
Like the simpsons mums voice
Say what you want about the Simpson's family dynamic, you can't deny that they still feel like a family, instead of a bunch of psychopaths constantly trying to kill each other.
Exactly, yes. I will always have a special place in my heart for The Simpsons. I just outgrew the series is all whereupon I chose to stick with South Park and Futurama. Family Guy bought my hatred years ago.
@@SexandtheCityGirli haven't been able to deal with south park in years. the edgy gen x nihilism thing got old after a while.
king of the hill is a flawless show. it's real life turned up just enough to where it works better as a cartoon...
@anthonyrowland9072 I used to be into King of the Hill for many years but I swapped that for American Dad. I agree that KOTH is flawless. These two shows and also Futurama are so very underrated. South Park is not for everyone, I won't force that on people at all but I will be more defensive towards Futurama and American Dad.
@@SexandtheCityGirl the ongoing american dad christmas saga lol
@@anthonyrowland9072 Family Guy's schtick got old and repetitive years ago. They try too hard to be edgy.
Francine is a way better example of a suburban mom with an edge
Speaking of...
*_WHEN YOU GONNA COVER THE SERIES, MARK?!_*
Edge is kind. She's pretty nutty.
@lucasmartinez5703 "Do you think I don't want to do coke every minute of every day? Cuz I do! But I have a PTA meeting in the morning."
American dad is pretty cringe with how they do not just her but all the character.
It's seems less like a deliberate choice and more like they eventually got bored with their own show.
@@brainthebrian3690it was more fun before mcfarlene realized it was good and popular. Then when he got involved it go weirder in some good ways but theres more bad than good ways i feel now.
My thoughts on this can be summed up as:
Altough Francine Smith has canonically done much wose things, Id still trust her more to take care of my 1 year old niece than Lois.
“become a shell of her former self” is a term that can be used to describe every family guy character now
In the beginning of the show, Lois was seen as the glue that held the family together, the more responsible one and the voice of reason against Peter, even offering words of wisdom to the rest of the family, with the exception of Stewie. There were times that she snapped due to the pressure and you understood why she did so and you couldn't blame her, with Peter or the one responsible for this apologizing at the end of the episode.
Now she is just as, if not more, reckless than Peter.
I feel like once they changed Lois character it threw the series off I think most comedy sitcoms need a voice of reason for the series if not it just becomes a silly sketch show
Good
Yall taking this show way too seriously
@@whatever3145 "Unga bunga no think, only laugh. Hyper-dysfunctional family funny."
A good example of Lois going overboard but it still being tame and fitting of the story is the Christmas episode when they ran out of paper towels .
That actually had a funny punchline and my childhood self used to imagine her swears replaced with the Spongebob dolphin noises in that scene
That was one of the funniest moments of all time…especially when Meg just pulls them out with a nonchalant, “Oh, here they are.”
Classic moment
@@TheKillerEmcee peak family guy
Literally one of my favourite family guy episodes of all time. OG Lois used to be so good!!!
That “hottest moms” list parody at the beginning was very 2008-2010ish, and I love it! I also love how one of the choices is Coral from Finding Nemo, and he just called her “fish” 😂
She do be a fish doe
Fish is a real one🥶😫🥵
Boutta make her water change colors 😏
I can't see the word "coral" without hearing Rick Grimes.
Fish
It’s amazing that Francine is infinitely better written than Lois. When there’s a Francine episode It’s usually a good sign, when it’s a Lois episode you’re preparing to zone out.
Also Francine is hotter 🏄♂️
And she actually cares about her kids, even too much with Steve lol
I totally agree with you on this. Lois (and the entire Family Guy cast, really) were better when they were more grounded. They were a dysfunctional family who still loved each other at the end of the day. The humour came from watching Peter do something stupid while Lois had to deal with him. At the end of the episode, it would all come together and was occasionally even heartwarming.
Now we get a bunch of non-sequiturs about Peter/Lois/etc. just being terrible. The writers forgot that being mean isn't funny in and of itself. When Sterling Archer is a jerk, I don't laugh because he's being a jerk; I laugh because either A) He's going to succeed and make everyone mad that he was right while he gloats like a kid, or B) he's going to have it backfire terribly and face the consequences of his actions hilariously. Lois and Peter don't get that; they just get to be jerks with no real punchline.
Great stuff as usual, Mark. Thanks for the video.
After finally finishing Archer yesterday, I kept thinking about it a lot during the points of the video. Mallory is my prime example of an complete asshole who is genuinely funny and also loves her son to death
I love how LS Mark uses the same intro for everytime he reviews a Family Guy character 😂😂
Im pretty sure it was just a gag for this video
I mean after all, he was a young kid, around 10 he wants to say, one of his favorite shows was the popular adult sitcom known as family guy. I think we all know that at this point, but it's nice seeing him make that clear in every Family Guy video.
I was kinda sad when he didn’t mention him “laughing, crying alongside them, rooting for them to succeed in whatever came their way”
@@bekfstman9841 but then… something changed…
Let’s not forget the Springtrap episode lol
all aspects of Lois Griffin are just made 4 times better by Francine with the twist that she actually cares for her family (she's also funny enough to have chemistry with all the family members, but that can be said by everyone in the Smith family)
Was going to say Francine Smith is better and what you said there about American Dad sums up why I'm still able to tolerate the Smith family and the show American Dad itself.
Somehow American Dad is just better after all this time. It does weird wacky humor better
@@somethingsuperbland8829 Precisely.
Its very obvious that Seth enjoys American Dad much more than Family Guy
@AnimeLover4Life3395 That's what I figure. I don't think American Dad is better and nor do I like it more than the other. Just that AD is the only one of the two shows I can still tolerate watching, so to speak.
Family Guy has no "straight guy" any more. It used to be Lois, then it became Meg, and now they are both just like everyone else.
Brian was the straight guy early. Lois wasn't really a character at all smh
good. time to make someone else the "straight guy", stop it with linda marge louis etc.
@@TheMightofDabBrian used to be an actual character subverting expectations by being a pretty grounded character whilst also being a dog. But after a while Seth McFarland kept inserting himself into him where now he’s just a snobby alcoholic who just sees woman as objects. Just like Seth does internally.
No matter how bad Lois became; Peter had the worst fate out of any character. He went from being a doofus with a heart of gold to the arguably the worst character of his own show.
Kinda like how they did Goku in dragon ball, he used to be ignorant but had a lot of common sense, now he’s an utter dingus obsessed with fighting to the point he puts his *world* on the line
@@Peaches_Juice couldn’t have put it better myself
Eh. Which are you referring to?
Which Dragon Ball Z Goku are you talking about?@@Peaches_Juice
@@blazer6127 probably Super but he was sort of like that in Z anyway
Francine Smith pulls off the whole “quirky weird mom” thing a lot better imo
Y’all remember when Lois didn’t sound like a broken printer?
No
You remember when marge didn’t sound like she was getting her throat scratched constantly?
Still sounds better than Marge
for what? one season? the first?
@@Wizofmincraftoh now marge always sounded like that lmao
You can completely understand why Lois and Marge barely had any scenes together in the crossover
Lois is just the writers forgetting Bonnie existed and wrote her with the same personality and vices
Worse thing about Lois as mother is how she allows Peter to abuse Meg. Dude farts on her and #ShutUpMeg is a catchphrase now.
pretty realistic though, just saying lol. don't ever expect a parent in a disfunctional household to hold their partner accountable when they can just blame the kids and have them shut up. i don't know, i guess none of this stirs me up so much since it's pretty grounded in my opinion lol. this is exactly how this type of family would go downhill over time. Not to say the show is doing it on purpose or trying tio be realistic lol
@@magical571 How do you *NOT* hold a parent accountable for hurting their own children. Fuck you mean *lol* like this crappy show is a joke? Exactly why it's not funny anymore. Only commentary section edgelords like you sit up trying to 🧢 for child abuse. Goofy.
@@magical571Got a point. I've seen the dynamic between mothers and daughters when I dated and it's... It can get bad dude. Some moms seem like the hate their daughters or rather jealous of them. Like the arguments I've seen are horrific.
@@magical571 The problem is that you need something to explain it.
It doesn't have any reasoning to it in general, that's why it gets so grating.
I’m convinced that Mark took one look at his poll, saw that Lois had the most votes at first, and told his editor to work on it, even though a majority of us voted for Stewie.
Personally I prefer “Quirky” Lois to “Mid-Life Crisis” Lois, just because I find her episodes during this era far more intriguing and less mean-spirited as a whole, but I can totally see where you’re coming from.
Yeah, the Lois episodes are actually good now, episodes like customer of the week are amazing
my favorite lois joke is the one where peter says something about diarrhea and lois starts laughing at it too. idk why but it's really funny in my eyes
One of my least favorite aspects of family guy is how completely unbearable the characters can be at times. Lois was one of the worst examples but I think Quagmire, Brian, or Peter may be a little worse in my opinion. She became an awful person toward the family and would lose her temper constantly, taking it out on them. Also the show has this bizarre mindset later on where they think sexualizing her, because she's a woman I guess, is meant to be like a joke or something but its never funny. That Simpsons jab is in my opinion, one of the most uncomfortable things I ever sat through.
Again though, her being awful to the family is just so infurating to watch. I get its the norm to have every character in an adult animated comedy to be an asshole, but seriously, all it does is ruin my investment cause every single character can just get away with anything. Those kind of jokes can be funny, but having each of the cast be a prick to accommodate for it all the time, just makes thing miserable.
Sorry for the tangent but I guess the subject of cartoon characters being irredeemable dickheads is a subject I'm very passionate about.
Dang, a lot of GoAnimate videos suffer a similar problem but worse...
I always thought that meanness is not automatically funny. People who make shows like this think they can just say or do something mean and then expect the viewer to laugh.
@@roberttreacy8271It feels like funny=mean when the fun part is either when they're actually making a joke or when they get their just desserts in the end. Very few people watch Eric Cartman be an asshole because that in of itself is funny. They watch him because of the way he goes about it or when he suffers the consequences of his actions.
Yeah Quagmire was made into a hyper-rapist and has this weird feud with Brian, who himself is obnoxious and taking lots of screentime. It's said that Family Guy devolved into the Stewie & Brian show and Brian is clearly inferior to Stewie in every way.
@roberttreacy8271 Yup Peter is a jerk. Brian is a jerk. Lois is a jerk. Quagmire is a jerk. Stewie I guess you could also put in the category although funnily enough he became less of a jerk over time despite originally being intended to stand out as the "bad" one.
Season 1-3 Lois Griffin was Prime Lois that EVERYONE loved!
Watching this video again after Marks community post saying that a sponsor backed out after seeing the "hottest mom" intro
They just couldn't handle the tomfoolery
Girls have Depressed Lois Griffin, Men have Depressed Lo-Fi Bart Simpson, we are not the same.
I found it weird seeing a lot of teen girls relating to depressed Lois of all things. Why not Meg that seems so obvious.
@@doomdimensiondweller5627nobody likes meg
@@doomdimensiondweller5627fr like why choose the fully grown woman with two kids
over an insecure teenage girl (literally the target audience for this stuff)
I thought women had depressed lofi Bart.
@heavensgate2245 *Nobody likes meg*
One of my favorite early season episodes was the episode where Lois takes meg on spring break, it showed that she legitimately wanted to make meg happy but was flawed in the sense that she went way overboard with partying. It was a genuinely nice episodes in my opinion
@AquaBounce1010 Thanks sometimes when I'm quickly using auto fill or try to fix my grammar to quickly reply. I miss things like that & don't even realize it
@austin_bennett Your Welcome.
family guy is the definition on why any cartoon shouldn't run forever
Same with The Simpsons and SpongeBob
@@sonicandmylittleponyfan2002nah, Modern Simpsons has some really good episodes like pixelated and afraid or a serious flanders, and while spongebob isnt anywhere close to as good, it's still not bad. Family guy good at all
@darkmatter1721 Nah, it's bad. However in the entertaining aspect.
And I agree.
@@sonicandmylittleponyfan2002Likewise.
“You’re never going to get a Simpsons episode where Homer decks Marge in the jaw”
When the creator of Simpsons played the Simpsons hit and run video game,the first thing he did was find the kick button and then -playing as Homer- kicked Marge across the town while laughing hysterically so it’s not out of the cards
0:22 fish
Its not Just Peter and Lois that I hate I just hate parents in animation in general I'm so sick and tired of animation especially adult animation protraying families as dysfunctional it has honestly made me appreciate shows like Bob's Burgers, Amphibia, and The Owl House that protray loving, happy, and healthy family dynamics.
I can agree. I wish these shows would give us a reason to love these characters, but they don't. Dysfunctional can be done right, but frankly its a little overdone in adult animation shows. That being said, I don't think a lot of writers for these shows realize how funny loving families can be. I always loved how down bad Hal was for Lois, even tho it's not animation
king of the hill is a good example of a more realistic family, similarly with s1-s9 or s10 simpsons
@SporianSummit both King of the Hill and Bob's Burgers are some of the best representions of a traditional loving, happy, and healthy families and ten times better than Modern Simpson, Family Guy, and American Dad.
@@tylerbertram7065 I think modern Simpsons has gotten back to being a nicer family portrayal, but it was slipping off the rails for a while. Still, it never got anywhere NEAR what Family Guy has become.
@Marbles471 I will admit I haven't been keeping up with the Simpsons occasionally they make a good episode but more often than not modern Simpsons makes a really bad episode.
He's going to review every family character isn't he?
"Neptune: King of the Sea-An icon in ruins"
A Stewie Griffin video will be interesting though
Yes
cant wait for the jasper video
@@roobyrne3075he's the only family guy character that I actually like
Seasons 4-7 was peak Family Guy if you ask me, the characters struck a perfect balance of selfish and caring.
Oh, absolutely they were and I used to like Family Guy, believe it or not.
I think Seasons 4 and 5 are pretty good post-cancellation seasons but that's when it's characters began it's decline.
@@luckylol Indeed, yes.
@@luckylolI don’t know, season 6 and 7 had a decline but they still were funny, like the whole Brian interviewing Stewie on the roof bit was classic
@@SexandtheCityGirl what about 6 and 7? They were good
Lois has turned into a character that you wouldn't mind if Stewie killed because she's become that awful.
I guess Stewie really _was_ right!
I miss when it felt like she genuinely cared about her kids’ well-being, especially Meg’s. Now she just treats all of them like trash. It’s sad.
Can’t wait for mark to have a playlist that is nothing but character breakdowns of every family guy character.
I actually kinda admire quirky Lois. At least they’re not having Lois be nice and fake on the outside, but secretly awful, she’s just outwardly bitchy. It’s like they’re fully aware that she’s a bad person and they just embrace it and gave her some pretty fun episodes
The thing is though that’s not how she was portrayed in earlier seasons
In fact all the family members have had drastic changes in how they started to how they are now and I think it’s been for the worst.
Look at Peter,Brian,Stewie,Meg from earlier seasons and compare them to current
@@Jay3up at least they changed slowly, unlike American Dad where it just became a very different show once it moved to TBS.
it's alright but it's just like she's became female peter griffin
I am convinced the "writers" or manatees or whomever is in charge of the scripts of family guy, hate their mothers so much they pour all their anger into Lois and that's why she's become such a shrill, heartless, cruel, insufferable **** who abuses her family and terrorizes everyone else.
i enjoy her lol
You Should of titled this Video as:
Lois Griffin: A Mother Without Morals
Because Lois nowadays lacks restraint and discipline, along with her repeateded Emotional and Sometimes Physical Abuse of her family, Meg especially.
i remember i saw someone say the difference between lois and peter and stan and francine is that lois and peter pretend they're good people and are worse off for it which makes them hard to watch and the humor fall flat but stan and francine know they're terrible selfish ppl which makes them (for the most part) fun to watch and fits the unhinged writing style. honestly most apt reading on the differences in the way the families in family guy and american dad are written.
when "i forgor mom name" joke is so funny you do it twice in the first 60 seconds
“It’s even funnier the second time!”
7:28 What he said about the Simpsons having clear guidelines and restrictions I feel could have been applied to Family Guy if the show didn't get cancelled twice and had more constancy with staff when it was being developed.
Lois rivals Brian and Peter when it comes to the most flanderized Family Guy characters.
2:10 I hate that I know what that sound is
holy fu-
I'm cu-
4:07 Peter hit her back. Peter Did Nothing Wrong
I think both Lois and Brian were the voice of reason for the show being able to pull the reigns when things got too far. Now, however, they too have become engrossed within the off the walls wacky shenanigans of the show so now there’s no one there to say no.
Probably my favorite one is the mom from The Oblongs. She is genuinely such a great and funny character
My favourite thing about her is that she's genuinely a dysfunctional trainwreck, but at the same time a super warm and loving parent 💀
I miss that show,.wish that they would have continued it 😭
Francine has slowly become my favorite character in American dad. Lois has become one of my least favorite characters in Family Guy
I liked her breakdown in that Christmas episode. I think it's what a lot of moms feel like doing during the holidays. Source: my mom. She said the episode captured the frustrations really well.
0:34 Her name is Donna.
source?
@@Kropolisprobably the fucking show?
@@TherealKeop sounds like a made up source
I don't watch Family Guy, but these videos are super informative for someone who doesn't watch. Good Video!
9:38 - The reason why you probably find this new episode premise most original and interesting is because the core of that idea is stolen.
The premise is almost completely ripped from King of Queens (S1, EP18 I think, not sure) where one of the characters (Arthur) goes through the exact same thing with becoming obsessed with becoming the employee of the month at a Coffee Shop he doesn't work at.
Holy shit, that's so shameless 💀
The intro was worth it.
It’s weird that she went from sweet and caring, to becoming a sociopath, mean spirited and cruel to everyone. Including her own family. She could’ve been the voice of reasons to her family’s dilemma, but nope.
They’re afraid that she’ll be too much like Marge Simpson, so decided to turn into this cruel and abusive person. This is the reason why this series is going down hill.
well, i like that. honestly i love the simpsons, but marge infuriates me since she resembles what a wife in an abusive relationship looks like.Having to rely in old memories of infatuation, out right saying "as long as you fill up the fuel tank i'm good with you homer", pretty clearly being there because of three accidents called children, and of course she loves them (i mean, that's what expected of her and very few media will go to the place of, what if she doesn't though? what if she is doing what she can and coping?) Being expected to always be grounded, sweet and collected, forgive his husband's several affairs, fix everything for everyone, and not even the episodes were she is suppossed to either get a vacation or just break under pressure give her real space or gratitude from others. Just a, "oh, but marge, we can't have you like this, the family doesn0t work without you" great awesome now go back to your miserable life as a mid class housewife. "haha nobody here can wipe their own ass, you gotta be an overworked housewife so funny and endearing". Let the wife beat the shit out their relatives for once, honestly.
One cartoon mom I really like other than Marge Simpson is Linda from Bob’s Burgers, she’s hilarious and relatable and loves her family!
marge infuriates me. she embodies so much of what's wrong with stay at home moms in mid income households, yet the show expects you to find it endearing, when really she is just coping and doing what she can. and i say this as someone whoi loves the simpsons, but luckily they don't focus too much on her (would get really depressing and frustrating really fast. there's a reason the episodes focused on her tend to do worse than the rest)
Lois isn’t as bad as Brian, but I did really like her in older seasons. It was funny to watch her barely contain her wholesome mom facade under layers of (justified) frustration and rage. Lois going on a rampage because Meg couldn’t find paper towels will ALWAYS be better than Lois verbally and physically abusing her family
Same thing happened to Peter in the beginning of the show Peter was portrayed as a dumb guy who made mistakes but you could see just how much he cared for his family (Meg included) and always wanted to do right by them. Nowadays? They have dumbed him down and made him unbearable
I think modern Family guy fell into this new theme, "everyone is just a different flavour of horrible person, point and laugh"
One of the main reasons I started loving family guy again was when I saw the Lois coffee shop episode, it felt like family guy finally found a new thing to try out with character centric episodes and I LOVED it
0:08 WE LOSING OUR SPONSORSHIP WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🔊🔊🔊
That whole bed scene with them summarizes Peter and Lois’s whole relationship. Once married becaused they genuinely loved each other, but now are still married out of necessity for the kids so who cares about the infedelity because nothing matters in the show anymore. I legit need to see how these writings sessions go for each episode because there clearly a lot going on with the writers occasionally venting about the state of things in the show yet there still feels like there is a lot of missing context why it’s happening most of the time.
3:43 i don't think ive ever seen this clip in my life and i can not for the love of me find it
My most hater moment for lois is when she becomes an anti vaxxer even though in another episode before she was trying to help a religous family that didnt believe in modern medicine.
KILLED MEEEE 3:49
2:57 ANIMAL ABUSE-
*Ls mark:* **Makes video on Brian**
*Ls mark:* **Makes video on Joe**
*Ls mark:* **Makes video on Quagmire**
*Ls mark:* **Makes video on Lois**
*Stewie:* “Oh god, is he gonna do me next!?”
Cleveland
4:13- "You're never gonna get a Simpsons episode where Homer decks Marge in the jaw."
Dark Simpsons would like a word with you!
Lois went from a loving mom that was a voice of reason to a sex crazed maniac that doesn't love her family anymore
I honestly would be down to see them redo some modern episodes just to see how different things would be if the cast had their personalities in the classic episodes.
0:11 I can immediately tell which one is #1.
Who?
@@Ilyaisaweeb Merge
Fish
The episode where Lois becomes a loubge singer in the basement and Peter grows to slowly resent her is top tier. To see what they've done with her..
Out of all of those Family Guy characters in this series of videos , I think Springtrap is my personal favourite
LS MARK is the best user I have ever watched on this platform!
@@carlS523beep boop
@@FolfahFNF be like
Mark didn’t had to be this harsh Lewis Griffin from the Simpson is my favourite character 😡
Meg told no lies in the hurricane episode, she's actually gotten so much worse since then
2:16 Thank you for referencing me in your video Mark. Truly an honor 😊
1:36 i have this exact lois plush in my room
its amazing how current Lois has absorbed all of Classic Stewie's dark traits
You know after season four it seems that Meg is the one who took her mother’s place for being the most grounded one in the family. And thus is part of the reason why she’s treated so poorly. And in a sad way without Lois’s logical and heartfelt ways the abuse that Meg often suffers replaces Lois’s old caring ways as the family’s current day glue. If you really watch the show closely through-out the first six to seven seasons that unfortunately shows.
The reason for this was because the writers admitted they had issues with Meg's character as they didn't know how to write a teenage girl and would use her as a punching bag for jokes and abuse as a way to get back at her until it got old and annoying when fans wanted Meg to have her own voice and redemption which inevitably she did later on in the future seasons
The scene where Meg was punishing Stewie, THAT IS A REAL MOTHER!!!
You mean where she threatened to smack in the head if he moved? 😂 Maybe you mean a different scene
@@davidfairweather3301 okay so that smacking wasn’t necessary, but the other was
@@travisrose3147 I liked how she actually said “I take abuse from everyone in those house but I’m not gonna take it from you” - actually called it out as abuse
@@davidfairweather3301 yeah, she is hated for no reason whatsoever.
I love that you use the same intro for each family guy character analysis. “When I was a young kid, when I was about ten I wanna say” gets me everytime.
Hearing “Work Harder” in the mom montage was like seeing your teacher at a supermarket
TOWER OF POWER
Lois gives off the vibe of the type of mom who advertises MLMs on her Facebook page with the tags "#bossbabe #momtreprenuer 😂❤"
Mother Lois from the House of Griffin, giving us Worst Mom Realness.
8:19 Bi Peter
What's funny is here in Los Angeles, the local news channel had ran a pole for mother's Day asking who the best cartoon TV mom was. Needless to say I was in complete SHOCK what Lois Won.
twitter be like: 9:03
Internet loves cartoon moms more than you know LSmark.
1:36 DID HE JUST SAY MUM?!
Yea he said mum
BRITISH
MUM :D
You need to make an hour long video on the real cartoon mom Linda.
“I’m Lois, Lois Griffin from the hit tv sitcom FamilyGuy” - Lois Griffin probably
Peter and Louis cheat on each other so much I can’t even tell you if they’re still married or not
Literally almost every character acts exactly the same now, the only difference being they have a new coat of paint
It's so tiring
i dont understand how the characters in modern day family guy think lois is hot, they always talk about how peter doesn't deserve lois meanwhile shes just...average looking and has the worst voice 💀
And Meg is always treated like she's hideous when she's a just a slightly chubbier clone of Lois!
Lois is a tragic character. Someone who was a grounded voice of reason and balance turned into an overbearing and destructive parent. It's sad when the deliberately written, toxic, and controlling Alana is a stronger parent and wife than Lois.
Who is Alana?
She was a new girl who tried to replace Lois before she was thrown in jail in one episode
"No Paper Towels?!" has to be one of the best early seasons Lois moments
That LISA The Painful OST in the fake intro got me, I wasn't expecting that at ALL.