Dan Schneider and the Downfall of Nickelodeon
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With the recent release of the documentary "Quiet on Set" revealing a lot of the messed up stuff going on in the world of Children's Entertainment, highlight Dan Schneider and Nickelodeon as a whole, I wanted to take some time to talk about the sad reality that is Nick's current state.
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Dan Schneider and the Downfall of Nickelodeon;
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4:10 Nickelodeon's Irrelevancy
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Can’t wait for more leaked government documents
I feel so dirty watching Nickelodeon. The way they treat their properties and actors, hiring creeps and knowingly letting them hurt people, it's awful
Same and I grew up on Nick in the 90s due to not getting Disney until 99 and CN in 01. Plus they owned my home state theme/amusement park Kings Dominion from 1992/93 to 2006 with Paramount Parks... I mean yeah last time I watched Nick was when Korra was airing and mainly kept to the old 90s shows since but still.
Yeah they always gave me the icks when I was a little kid now I understand why and now I can shove this in my sisters face
To tell you the truth... I always loved its sister network, Nicktoons, tbh.
Even if it stinks now, it still had a impact with me. Unlike the main network. Heck, even most of the old bumpers were unique looking than the main network's ones.
I always had a sense that something was wrong in those live actions shows. Like especially in Victorious things just felt wrong at times and as a kid I didn't know why I felt that way. But now I get it
Even stuff like SpongeBob?
It's so messed up that Dan Schneider was able to get away with so much abuse for so long. Drake Bell and so many others were brave to speak out about the harassment and abuse that they'd experienced while on the set.
wait timmy turner worked with dan?
@@yololthepikminenjoyeryes
@@yololthepikminenjoyer timmy turner? try drake and josh
Literally. Its demented that they did an internal investigation into gender discrimination on one of the FIRST shows he was running, found it to be in violation, and still he was allowed to continue working there. Its just insane.
He had the iCarly actors go topless on set once
“The world could’ve survived without the Amanda show if it meant these kids didn’t have to be emotionally abused on set.”
That is the perfect take. No project that makes any amount of money should come at the expense of decency. The crew members AND parents need to seriously be looked at.
Butch Hartman is no longer the most hated man in Nickelodeon.
He never was
With John K and Dan Schneider around, Butch seems like a saint in comparison.
He has a big ego and scammed people out of money, and has bad view points; but Butch is not a terrible person 100%, like 50-50. He's still friends with all the cast of voice actors he's worked with, so they still have respect for him enough to still do things with him.
@@FanSeitzexcept for tara strong
@@MickeyMouse-lw9hgShe’s not really any better.
Yea....seeing all the reactions all over the internet is like....kinda insane considering I thought we all knew about his allegations?
To be fair there wasn’t much, or atleast compared to beforehand
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario There was so so so many, but millions if not billions are spent on coverups.
The vibe i got was that it was kind of one of those things where it was an unspoken truth. You kinda got the sense that something was off with all the innuendo in the shows, but speaking it makes it real. I remember when Jennette's book came out, people were more focused on the title than the content.
yeah like i’m confuse why people is just learning about it since I thought everyone knew about it
Yeah, it's so weird seeing Dan Schneider and his old shows gaining mainstream attention, but only because of the misconduct stories that have come out in recent years.
“what makes you think you can be dirty dan?”
“I’m dirty”
That one liner makes more sense now.
SpongeBob SquarePants their was a Episode that SpongeBob Say " Dirty Dan" is SpongeBob Applying to Dan Schneider? 🤔
I would argue that SpongeBob's Dirty Dan bit had nothing to do with Dan Schinder, given SpongeBob and Patrick *want* to be Dirty Dan- not the kind of message you want if you're criticizing someone. Plus, that episode was released in 2001, likely started in 2000, and I don't think many people knew of the awful things Dan was doing yet, especially not the animators who weren't even in proximity to the live action people.
Aged like fine wine
yeah lol
@@charliemacsartyeah, spongebob seems to be the only untouched region of nickelodeon by schneider, but even they have their share of adult jokes. i think in spongebobs case it’s nothing more, but with schneider’s content it was clearly conditioning in retrospect…
To make matters even worse, there’s an actress named Amber Frank who played in the sitcom “The Haunted Hathaways” who’s gone out and said that during her time at Nickelodeon, they would bring out these computers for production and in those computers, there was literally “cp” in those computers.
Bro I literally came across her video on my TikTok fyp last night and I was floored about that. Horrifying.
Not the haunted hathaways now 😭
"cp"?
@@elijahbruno2814 Shorthand for "Child Pr0n"
@@elijahbruno2814any photographed or filmed evidence of children being "exploited" basically
14:55 "and cartoon Network is a story for another day" Honestly I'm really interested to see a video on that story
same
If Nick is irrelevant & slowly dying, then CN is becoming a complete stranger to society & is having a *REAL QUICK* death.
Adult swim is still around tho
At least cartoon network had a better run throughout the 2000 to early 2010's ( loved the cartoon city era).
It's crazy that it's been many years now and that the topics of Dan Schneider of being a creep are brought up again, I'm surprised Dan Schneider lasted so long against the allegations.
I agree. I've known about a lot of this stuff earlier, he should've been called out years ago.
The power of generating profit
He should have been called out a decade ago or even two decades ago.
Can we call out the other people too?? I hate that most of you guys are using him as the only face for this
We want the ren and stimpy creator jailed but that doesnt seem very likely s@@ironicvlogstv8769
wishing healing for drake, alexa, jennette, all the kids on these shows including the kids who probably got hurt and didn’t even make it in the industry. the fact that they essentially gave up their own childhood for ours at the cost of their protection, self esteem and mental health makes me incredibly devastated. i REALLY hope this finally makes some change
The scary part is these are only the ones we know of who were hurt or taken advantage of. I’m sure we’ll see more actors and actresses come out as time goes on that worked under Schneider open up about their experiences.
Also don’t forget Ariana Grande and Amanda Bines.
@@jzzisk “all the kids” was for everyone on every show
@@lunarblake my bad missed that part
@@jzziskBynes*
Me as a kid: Finally, shows that treat children like adults!
Me as an adult: Oh god, he treated those children like adults!
Monkey's paw...crude humor edited for kids but the child actors are actually uncomfortable with it.
Nickelodeon doesn't treat children like adults (with exceptions like ATLAB), they are just for gross out and quick gags. Have you seen Behind Closed Doors for SpongeBob?
I’ll always be pissed about Nick cancelling Rise of the TMNT. That show NEVER got the fair shot it deserved with its nonexistent marketing, and the animation community did it no favors.
I love how Mark always refers The Loud House as “The Lincoln Loud Show”.
I mean...yeah
😭😭😭😭😭
I mean hey I'd do the same if I didn't keep forgetting the show existed
It pretty much is now, just Lincoln and his stupid friends, and none of the family (which actually made the damn show fun to watch)
@@Stupimations I think the biggest tell-tale sign that a show has completely fallen off is when its show runners abandon its original premise/concept and turn it into just another generic sitcom.
It's depressing that Nickelodeon knew about this for years and only throw him under when those accusations started gaining traction.
They only stepped in when they could benefit from it.
Nope, they only stepped in when Schneider's shows stopped making money. I'm convinced if Schneider had another behemoth like iCarly on the network, he'd still be right where he was and this doc would have been buried.
@@Soulful_Sorrow Yeah that's a huge part of it. Getting rid of him killed two birds with one stone. He wasn't making them money anymore and if they got rid of him they could score good PR
That's showbiz for you.
sadly this is the dark side of Hollywood, long as you're making millions, people can get away with murder, up until they stop making millions, only then are those people facing anything.
@@Soulful_SorrowHenry Danger was making iCarly/Victorious money, so that wasn’t the reason why lol
I watched the documentary, I really like the ending where Drake Bell and his father are walking off set:
Drake's Dad: "Better days are ahead of us"
Drake: "I hear that alot"
Drake's Dad: "Keep listening to it"
And then he sexted a 13 year old girl
If anything’s to go by QuietOnSet then Nickelodeon’s either losing a lot of money or just going to quit live-action all together.
I doubt they’ll shut down because that’s pretty unfair to the animation department who had nothing to do with Danny-boy’s scandals.
Nickelodeon with their studios too big to be shutdown. Least they can do is just recover, make money and move on from Dan Schneider being their punching bag even though he made them Billions of 💵with hit after hits, however Henry danger was….Something
If Paramount Global gets sold to one of the big private equity firms, I would go ahead and place bets on the whole thing being shitcanned.
They hired creep animators too, like the ren and stimpy creator. The animation portion is NOT innocent either.
@@jakdekayen Was there anything systemic there or just his two shows?
Both millennials and gen z seeing their childhoods collapse and having collective grief over it has been interesting to say the least
I feel guilty for having enjoyed all those shows now knowing what was going on backstage. And even more guilty for thinking wistfully on Drake and Josh since it was such a staple of my childhood...and now knowing what happened and who made it. I feel like my childhood was a giant lie.
@@Andromeda14161I mean, why feel guilty for enjoyinng something as a kid. thats dumb
@@NotaCatGirll I know it's dumb. Just something I can't help.
@@Andromeda14161 it is definitely hard for me to watch some of those shows again knowing what happened
@@NotaCatGirll because, empathy. Knowing we were smiling and laughing while people who entertained us were being used and abused, and being blackmailed. We feel bad because, what happened WAS bad. It's normal. It's part of being human. To feel guilt, when you didn't notice someone who made you happy was secretly paying with the loss of their innocence and happiness.
Hypothetically speaking Imagine if all of this drama with Schneider and "Quiet On Set" were to lead to Nickelodean permanently closing it's doors and or shutting down, Which of course would mean all of their current running shows would be cancelled never to be aired again. And that would honestly be a small price to pay for everything that they let Schneider get away with.
And in case anyone ask's, The reason I say "Hypothetically speaking" is because while it is true that Nickelodean has been facing hard times because of everything with "Quiet On Set" I doubt that it would actually cause the network to go bankrupt and permanently shut down.
Yep when you own SpongeBob (current SpongeBob which is actually not too bad) you ain’t going bankrupt for a while
I don’t think the whole Nickelodeon won’t be shut down since their animation division are way better to keep because of SpongeBob
That’s why they hooked up with Paramount Plus. They serve as the chemotherapy now that Nick is dying of cancer.
If Nick does go under, their properties are far to beloved to just disappear
You can bet everyone is gonna scramble for the rights to SpongeBob
@@baxatakbaxatak2014it’s because Paramount bought Nickelodeon in the 90s
Don't diss Boomerang, their old bumpers were bangers
Gotta a guerrilla for sale 🔥🔥🔥
@@jayjaybulldog9180 LOL
Dan Schneider is so horrible the old adage "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself as the villain" doesn't even apply to him because that apology he gave was faker than Hulk Hogan's leg drop.
I hope Nickelodeon bounces back from Quiet on Set but I don't think they ever will.
But do they really deserve to?
@@titangirl161 Just because people are terrible doesn't mean Nickelodeon is terrible. At the end of the day it's just a company, one that has been bringing people joy for over 4 decades and people have given Disney 1000+ chances, this will only be Nickelodeon's second.
He apologized? When?
I’m genuinely curious.
@@RomaroBrandon it is a company, and as such, it is run by people- people who were more than willing to turn a blind eye to what was taking place so long as money was coming in.
Quite honestly, I don't think Disney deserves it either, but everyone is more than willing to keep giving more chances, and by proxy allowing it to happen, and I'm clearly in the minority here, so...
Carry on, everyone
Hulkster: "tell that to all the spinal reinforcement in my back, brother!"
Whenever that Spongebob episode that has the line "Dirty Dan" from now on, I'll immediately think of the scandals and abuse
Maybe he knew what was going on
That was Hillenberg taking a dump on Dirty Dan.
Hillenburg's ghost scares Dan Schneider
The fact that Dan Scneider isn't in jail is insane
At least he's fired though
i agree, dude's practically a pedo and he's walking still.
@@user-rw4ti9hr9cthey paid him when they fired him tho so it doesn't really mean anything.
I Totally Agree with you I Don't Know Why he is Not on Jail?
he need to be publicly shunned. that disgusting man
Me knowing Schneider is a Monster is One Thing, the Company Neglecting this Situation is Another, what does surprise me the most from all of this is that this Rabbit Hole goes way beyond deeper, disturbing, disgusting, maddening, and Deranged than I originally thought having these Creeps and Monsters taking something just as valuable as Life Itself, they Ruined Children’s Hopes, Dreams, Innocence, and Future, this Type of Crap should never Happen Again.
Sad part is Rock Paper Scissors is probably the best thing that's happened to Nick in the last few years and that's saying something
It’s the same guys who did Bizaardvark that Disney sitcom with Olivia Rodrigo and Jake Paul
That is so true. It's very funny. Glitch Techs and Rise of the TMNT also deserved better.
@@Brewart2012From what I heard, Bizaardvark wasn’t even a good show, so I’m surprised that Olivia rose to stardom as fast as someone like Ariana when one of them didn’t even have as good of a show to build fans from.
@@prettierjesus3119 She was on High School Musical the series after it ended, that’s where she really became before.
The Object Show Community always give attention to cartoons that have objects in them
Look at this Pattern: Pickle and Peanut -> Apple and Onion -> Cupcake and Dino -> Rock, Paper, Scissors
All shows are greenlit and aired because of the OSC
I know creeps like these exist everywhere, but it’s scary and surprising the staggering amount in the entertainment industry as a whole. You wouldn’t think they’d have this much power over others.
Especially when it's a industry for kids and has children actors
Hollywood baby
None of this should be surprising
@bobtheball5384 It's not just Hollywood. It's everywhere in the United States. You think these guys don't exist everywhere else? The problem is the power dynamic that exists within the corporate business structure and taking advantage of those that don't know/have the ability to give consent. These freaks prey on whatever is the weakest target.
The people who want power are almost always the people we shouldn't give power to, and yet we have a system specifically built so those who want power are the ones who get it.
Even without Dan "El Inspector De Patas" Schneider around, Nick has done no shit lately but being the punching bag of the big three of cartoon media. It's quite sad but at the same time they did this to themselves.
That's so flipping true
Disney is doing pretty well for themselves still releasing quality
Cartoon network tries but keeps getting beaten to death by its own boss. And to add cartoon network even has adult swim which has been doing pretty well these few years
And then Nick is just... Nick
The inspector of feets ?
@@kkinthewheelchair3049 feet is already a plural word.
@@miserirken ah sorry I don't understand Spanish that much
@@partylrd8699 honestly, i feel like nick has lost its spot in the big 3 for cartoon media to PBS kids, not just because of the Quiet On Set release and the current controversies, but also because nick as a channel has completely fallen off through the mistreatment of its IPs, failing the live action series actors in not just keeping them safe but also from what can be consider exploitation by the directors of the series, and so much more. on the other hand, while PBS Kids has experienced the loss of IPs in the last, it’s mainly due to contract expiration rather than through IP mistreatment as far as i know.
i know it’s weird that i’m comparing the status of a former cartoon powerhouse like nick to an edutainment channel, but that’s just my opinion so please feel free to take my opinion with a grain (or 50) of salt. ^^
For anyone who wants even more insight I highly recommend reading Jennette McCurdys book "I'm glad my mom died" which delves into her time on nickelodeon which was of course awful
What I find baffling is how as time passes more and more comes out about him which really makes you question how he got away with this for so long
Fr, still unbelievable hes not in prison when he got a 13yr old pregnant.
@@tomshroombecause hes rich
Money and connections, that's how he got away with it.
I literally got an ad for Quiet on the Set.
same here
Watched an episode about 2 days ago
Me too.
As did I.
Same
I think my biggest gripe with this so far, is all the people going "omg thank God I was a Cartoon Network or Disney girlie!"
Mf please. Don't act like you didn't watch Nickelodeon with the rest of us. Also don't act like those other networks are clean cause no tf they aren't. No one is clean in Hollywood. Literally no one. Nada. You're lying to yourself if you think ANYONE'S trustworthy over there.
...MAYBE Jerry Trainor is okay. That's a big maybe. We all thought Drake Bell or Shane Dawson were cool too look what happened.
People are saying that? Jfc, there have been creeps working at CN / Disney too wtf. There are creeps EVERYWHERE in the industry.
drake bell is a mad different story. the girl was claiming they’d met and fucked multiple times and her own friends were like “we were at the concert with her that didnt happen” She baited him. Not like in the “the underage kid somehow tempted the adult into sex way” i mean the she got in enough contact with him were it became he said she said and sued him
Not even keanu reeves or weird al?
I think cartoon network is the one that's ikely to not have a shit ton of skeletons in there closet. since they never made live action stuff (for the most part) so there's less of a chance of abuse story's happening.
@@NancerOne Those guys are alright
It’s really sad to see Nickelodeon in a depressing. Not only because of the horrible treatment of Dan Schneider and the streaming services, but also they’re downsizing some of their brands. They just layoff their Noggin, meaning that the brand will no longer be around, it just made me really sad.
The fact I knew about the allegations and abuse that Dan Schneider had put the child star actors through behind the scenes and the jokes that went over my head in years before the quiet on set documentary came out is just wild.
I was a pure cartoon kid, so I didn't watch most of Nickelodeon's live-action shows all that much. When the Dan Schneider allegations became public around 2018, while I was disturbed and disgusted, I can't say my childhood was ruined in any way. I've since gone back and watched Drake and Josh and iCarly and enjoyed them a lot, but there's still a sense of dread with certain scenes now knowing all this.
Still, It's strange to see people acting as if this is a brand new revelation, when we've known about this for like half a decade now. Where the heck have you all been?
They were probably too busy demonizing gays.
i was mostly the same, Cartoons or Game Shows, with All That and Kenan & Kel being the exceptions.
I was also a cartoon kid, even If i do watch one of the sitcoms I wouldn't mind to watch at all
Normies forget an issue completely once their novelty temporary Facebook profile filters expire.
Yeah, honestly, I think this is just the first time they’ve gotten evidence for it.
It is just very sad that even after Dan was finally fired from Nick, there are still some nasty dark secrets from his time working there we are still learning about, & Nick deserves the Irrelevency for cover this up for so long
Even as a kid, I hated most of the live action shows on Nick besides Ned's Declassified or maybe Drake and Josh. And unfortunately growing up in the 2000s, I couldn't get away from them. It wasn't until I stumbled on the then called NickToons Network around 2007/2008 and it was WAY more appealing because in the 2000s, it was trying to stand out from the other networks with it's bumpers, ads and shows. Many of which had older shows I discovered for the first time like Ren and Stimpy, My Life As A Teenage Robot, Mr Meaty and especially Invader Zim, and original shows like The Secret Show, Kappa Mikey, El Tigre, Edgar & Ellen, Making Friends. That era of NickToons is extremely underrated when it comes to animation.
Facts. I started watching it and Noggin at Night/TeenNick at this time
In 2006 I stumbled upon Nicktoons as well as a kid, sucks it’s where unsuccessful Nicktoons goes to die while SpongeBob is ruling the network😔. Plus speaking of Ned’s declassified, people saw Ned’s declassified Devon werkheiser’s TikTok live stream and he was actually making fun of drake bell being an abused victim from the hands of Dan and Brian peck for no reason. Then drake bell responded on twitter making fun of him calling him Ned’s declassless and all of sudden a day later Devon opened a “ heart felt apology “
I remember watching Nicktoons
I watched the entire documentary series Quiet on Set, and it honestly hit really hard, especially with me growing up in the 90s. So much of it made me laugh, and now It hurts watching them now. I knew Dan Schneider was bad, but seeing Drake Bell talk about Brian Peck hurt so much. The fact Brian got away with so much and nothing was done is disgusting.
Honestly I feel like the only 3 Things that Nickelodeon care about nowadays are cringy Nickelodeon sitcoms,SpongeBob & loud house with the occasional original show that barely gets promoted
And I can’t help but feel bad for the poor child actors That stared in Dans shows
Which is unfortunate because the loud house is definitely a contender for the worst show ever made.
Hey Rock, Paper, Scissors(The occasional Original show) is promoted on both The Loud House and SpongeBob TH-cam Channels, You guys just don't care just because of other better Projects
@@Airaqxe all right calm down I was just proving a point on Modern Nickelodeon plus I wouldn’t be surprised if that show only lasted one or two seasons
@@Top10Dylan i mean it was fun and alright at first but now it's just getting the spongebob and fairly oddparents treatment, getting milked to death
@@bluefeather9969 No, it's always been godawful. There's no show that's more annoying.
12:14 “he had lost his touch”
Yeah, he better have lost his TOUCH if you know what I mean.
dan "no lube required" schneider had already lost his touch the moment he became the showrunner
Nickelodeon did nothing to help. The only true reason Nickelodeon finally intervened because they were losing money in Dan's shows.
I hope Nickelodeon finally improved
Back when kids were getting slimed and so many people stood by and watched. How many feet need to get sniffed before we put these weirdos behind bars? Maybe that's a little too extreme though, it would be punishment enough to send them to prison instead, slavery in the food service industry is a torture no one deserves
@@Pepesmall agreed
Ever since I saw Quiet on Set, I've had mixed feelings over these old shows. I can't completely shake my nostalgia filter and STOP laughing at the shows and enjoying them... and at the same time, my heart goes out to all those people who suffered, and I hope they get the closure and healing they deserve.
I just... don't know how to feel anymore
honestly you know your network isn’t well-loved in the public eye anymore when the world eyes your old animation studio sign and treats it as a conspiracy
Yeah, it’s insane.
Especially since Dan doesn't even like animation, yet everyone always compares it to him just because feet. Yet none of Dan's shows (except The Adventures of Kid Danger) were never animated shows.
The fact that my parents can remember and enjoyed parts of Dan Schneider shows speaks to how effective and creative they were. Disney shows always felt more childish to me after a certain point and looking back it’s because they were so sanitized. Nickelodeon made me feel much more happy and grown up, as weird as that is to say now. R.I.P. to my fellow Gen-z’ers growing up and coming to realize everything they once loved and trusted was incredibly dark behind the scenes
@emptyglass7867 How do you know that they aren't Gen Z? And that doesn't make them a pick-me for saying so. They're literally just existing while you're inserting yourself in the comments unwarranted.
@emptyglass7867how are you trying to gatekeep generations as if you magically know the age of every person online?
I wonder if this will be the end of Nickelodeon’s live action sitcoms, I mean i heard a rumor of the actor playing Lincoln Loud in Really Loud House having lost his hair due to the white dye.
Pretty sure the same thing happened to Ariana Grande when she was playing Cat on Victorious and later Sam and Cat.
They couldn’t be bothered with a wig.
@@GANONdork123As an ex fan of hers, yes, this is what happened. She had to wear a wig for the last season of Victorious and all of Sam and Cat, I think.
It’s also the main reason she started wearing her hair in ponytails all the time, and why she uses hair extensions so often. (Or used to)
i thinks its best for actors of all ages to stay as far away from nick as possible
I think the reason networks wanna make musical kids shows is so they can sell albums, upload music videos, sell those little microphones with the actors faces plastered onto it and if those actors get famous its just more publicity for nick
Nickelodeon just became Mr Krabs milking only aring SpongeBob dry every day just to be a cash grab
Oh no
Nickelodeon has become such a shell of their former selves that the most this Quiet on Set Documentary managed to do was only drag their reputation further below. All their current programming ranges from bland to mid and the Paramount+ service has been lackluster.
It's sad that Nickelodeon throughout the 2010's never had an actual renaissance like Disney and Cartoon Network did, with a bunch of their shows getting canned way too soon for arbitrary reasons while putting out subpar or low quality shows, with exception of The Loud House (which that show is already getting stale by the first couple of episodes). Nickelodeon barely innovates and push the animation medium during that time and plays it way too safe while multiple bad actors in that studio doing all the heavy lifting .
And the fact that Nick could’ve had a decent renaissance
Imagine a lineup with loud house, Harvey beaks, tmnt, robot & monster, penguins of Madagascar, & SpongeBob sure it wouldn’t be great but it’s better than now
I just thought of a better lineup with loud house, welcome to the Wayne, glitch techs, rise of the tmnt, & it’s pony but noo nick likes to cancel everything
It’s all Cyma Zarghami’s fault. She made Nickelodeon a terrible channel and corrupted Dan Schneider and Brian Robbin’s has 2 inherited the drama.
Hey have you ever watch Evan Rosman's Nickelodeon schedule
My mom was watching the Quiet On Set documentary earlier today and she said it was really sad
Also Drake Bell’s Timmy Turner being an adult in 5th grade has agreed absolutely HORRIBLY
Agreed. That whole special with Drake Bell wasn’t really good in general.
Fairly odd parents should have ended with Channel chasers. Timmy accepted he had to grow up.
How can I watch it for free???
@@andrewgarfield9898 There might be commentary channels on TH-cam that posted reactions to it.
That’s how I saw Game of Thrones back in high school. Just an idea.
@@andrewgarfield9898easy, pirercy
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Thing is, even as a kid, some parts of shows were just- creepy to me, like the things he’d have some characters do. But I always figured, you know “if something weird and creepy was going on then surely Nickelodeon would put a stop to it”.
…
APPARENTLY NOT.
Nick’s Biggest Mistake:
Cancelling Invader Zim or not giving it to MTV
Cartoon Network would’ve been a better home for it but I feel like if Nick tried harder it could’ve been a biggest hit then
That was their mistake for sure. Invader Zim was one of the best Nicktoons.
@@JustEpic_YtYeah, cartoon network allowed a lot of crude and dark humor back then, like cow and the chicken or courage.
MTV would have fucked it up.
Honestly it's better to let something that good end on a high note rather than give it the FOP treatment.
Dan Schneider was poised to be the Norman Lear of Nickelodeon, but ended up being the Harvey Weinstein.
I wish Scott Fellows was the Norman Lear of Nickelodeon. After all, he did gave us Ned’s Declassified School Survival Guide, Big Time Rush, and 100 Things To Do Before High School. Not to mention, he was one of the best writers of The Fairly OddParents.
@@MrTimshellscherber also created johnny test as well
@@MrTimshellscherber what did Scott fellows do to not be that?
@@Space_Cowboy.22. I don’t know.
Being a 90s child, i grew up with classic Nickelodeon.
Rugrats, Doug, are you afraid of the dark.
I was againg out of nick around the time as told by ginger started.
A couple years later i was staying with a family who had children and they were often watching Nickelodeon.
I remembered being grossed out a lot and feeling uncomfortable, but I kinda thought thats just how childrens entertainment looks to an adult, the way dirty jokes got put into cartoons that we shouldn't catch till adulthood.
To find out it actually was uncomfortable and gross makes my heart hurt
Literally this. I "aged out" of being a Nick kid around the late 90's. Hey Arnold was probably the last Nick show that I was a major fan of and that came out in 1996 and ran a few years. I remember seeing some of the shows from the late 2000's and early 2010's on in the backround of family's houses with kids when visting and thinking the same as you. I didn't get the humor but I figured it wasnt for my age group anymore. Sad.
Nothing wrong with kids family shows with adult humor
My tinfoil hat theory is that Schneider sabotaged the animation department so he could push his sitcoms. The rise and fall of each department is oddly perpendicular and the dictate that all new cartoons needed to have Spongebob levels of success is "incompetent" to the point of malice. I noticed that there are more animated shows on Nick now than live-action... so what this guy sees as a problem-- all their cartoons are in their first season-- I see as a sign that the world is beginning to heal.
As a 2000s kid, I grew up watching Nickelodeon shows
10:48 Because agencies that deal with child actors have deep ties to the record label industry. Remember that Miley Cyrus and Arianna Grande both got a start to their careers with Hannah Montana and VicTORIous respectively, and that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Why do you think FRED had a music album after the first movie came out? Why do you think they attempted to make Miranda Cosgrove into a popstar at one point? Why do you think Kidz Bop exists? It’s the music industry with all of these connections, and they put these kids into sitcoms as a marketing avenue for their music careers.
Really sad what happened to a once beloved network, real damn shame. At least their NFL broadcast's are pretty fire.
Now it’s just a SpongeBob channel which it’s about to have a 25th anniversary coming soon to which they are gonna celebrate with the kids choice awards. Why couldn’t they do the same for fairly odd parents, Rugrats, avatar or Danny Phantom for their anniversary?😔
@@jayjaybulldog9180 as a kid I’d be the dumbass to defend Nick as better than CN just cause I was a Spingaling Bop fanboy. It kinda feels after Avatar ended or the first SpongeBob movie the network as a whole completely jumped the shark. As I said, true tragedy, watch CN or Disney Channel instead.
It also sucks cause I’m incredibly nostalgic for their Jr shows, I’d argue some are more iconic than their main ones, Blue Clues, Wonder Pets, THE BACKYARDIGANS MY GUY!
13:32 Finally, someone who actually remembers Austin and Ally!
I like Austin and ally but dropped off towards the end (and after rewatching the series I see why lol)
@JustEpic1ForLife last year I rewatched the show and it's pretty solid. I also remember watching the show as a kid back in 2013-2016/17 and liking it. Not to mention that the theme song slaps so hard! 🔥
@@BlueBFDillCipher Same I still think it’s solid but it got a tiny bit boring when they switched locations
@@JustEpic_Yt yeah season 4 wasn't too good
@@JustEpic_Yt Me too. I didn't watch the series finale until much later.
With Drake Bell I hope people are mature enough to understand that you can be a victim and a still an abuser as well. I'm fact most abusers started off as victims, it's a dreadful cycle that I hope he'll be able to leave now that he has spoken out.
Yeah…about that, people saw Ned’s declassified Devon werkheiser’s TikTok live stream and he was actually making fun of drake bell being an abused victim from the hands of Dan and Brian peck for no reason. Then drake bell responded on twitter making fun of him calling him Ned’s declassless and all of sudden a day later Devon opened a “ heart felt apology “
@@jayjaybulldog9180 once again I'm reminded that child actors never actually grow up.
@@gottesurteil3201 everyone has an age of stagnation. A point in their life where they dont need to grow as a person anymore because the world no longer challenges them in ways where they need to grow. Celebrities almost always get to this point when they first become famous because for them the world fills up with clout chasing yes men once they are successful. So unfortunately most child stars are in a state of arrested development where they constantly have child like attitudes to adult situations. they literally cant be more mature because they have never needed to be.
Drake bell was not an abuser. It was proven in court
@@jayjaybulldog9180
The Ned’s Declass cast are basically just tacky gossip farmers now. Kinda corny and obnoxious
6:04 You are the only content creator I’ve seen address the fact that Nickelodeon treats new nicktoons terribly
Thank you for that
Nicktoons golden age for shows 1991-2007
@@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx Personally, I'd move the date back to the very end of the 80s since it was (again IMO) 1989-1991 that saw the birth of so many shows that wee icons and helped launch Nickelodeon further and further.
Nicktoons deserve better :(
My dude, everyone and their grandma has been saying this for years now, where have you been?
@@boydixonentertainment
I’ll admit that the other TH-camrs I watch make videos dedicated to one specific nicktoon that got shafted, like Harvey beaks or rise of the tmnt
But This is the first time I’ve seen a more popular TH-camr actually talk about the pattern of them generally just sabotaging new nicktoons in favor of the same 4 older nicktoons over and over again. And how there’s only a few currently running nicktoons besides SpongeBob
MediaMementos made not one but two great videos on how Nickelodeon has screwed themselves over the years with their shows. Basically, if the new show isn’t a hit, then it gets canned immediately. If it is a big hit, then it overstays its welcome and loses what made it special. The only thing keeping them alive right now is SpongeBob and the Loud House, with those they will die, and they have no one to blame but themselves. So if you got a show and you really what to put on the screen, go ANYWHERE but Nickelodeon.
THIS So many shows live action and animated nick isn’t giving a chance to
There are new original Nicktoons and Nickelodeon sitcoms
Fanboy & Chum Chum looks better than Megamind Rules.
EDIT: 186 LIKES!? 😧😮
FB&CC might not be good in its writing and pacing direction, but you can't deny its stylized cartoonish 3D animation is actually good. It actually looks like a 2D cartoon should look in 3D.
@@miserirken Undoubtably. Fanboy and Chum Chum is anything but a ugly, unpolished-looking show. What's more, the quality of the show's visuals carried over really well when the creator went on to co-create Glitch Techs, a wonderful show that unfortunately did not get mentioned at all in this video despite its troublesome existence.
You know Megamind vs. the Doom Syndicate is bad when it makes Fanboy & Chum Chum look like gold in comparison.
@@andykishoreso true
@@StormyRaptor2.0 It's ugly, but it feels like it's only ugly in the ways they wanted it to be.
One thing i have to say now after watching this documentary and going back watching some episodes of iCarly in particular, is how much i have got to give Jerry Trainor massive respect for basically shielding the kids while also telling Dan (through "jokingly" emphasis) off and really going far as to show he was a genuine good guy for the kids, he would even show up for the kids even on days when he didn't have any lines and was just there behind the camera watching and seeing if they were alright, when Jenette brought out her biography he congratulated her and told her he was proud of her speaking up, plus when this documentary came out he straight up unfollowed Nickelodeon off all platforms and said he was done with them entirely.
Like the dude really showed that he was genuinely caring and a brotherly figure to them
Is it wrong to watch Drake and Josh & iCarly now? I mean I have no problem boycotting The Amanda Show, Zoey 101 and Victorious, but with those two shows in particular, I love both of them, so this has been a really tough decision to make, as I always use them as a form of escapism. This is the question I have been asking myself over and over again this week.
@@skentertainment7794honestly at this point, if youre going to watch any of those shows at least pirate them. dont give any more money to the corporation that made them suffer.
@@skentertainment7794 I think as long as your able to separate to the art from the artist, then it's okay to enjoy the shows
@@skentertainment7794
Personally I don’t think it’s wrong for you to love those shows as they were shows that as a child you wouldn’t have ever thought would have these dark implications, like I still love Drake and Josh but I’m not gonna let all this make me look back and hate it because of what’s happened as this would demerit how good the series was
A reason why Jerry Trainor was one of my favourite actors of Nickelodeon. He was so funny as Spencer but I didn’t really notice that until now. But he also is such a kind soul, and I’m surprised he also complimented on Jeanette’s book. I wonder if we will see Miranda and the guy who plays Freddie do something about it too.
In my restless dreams I hear that name
Nickelodeon
You promised me we'd have good times again....but you never did.
Nick....you made me....happy 😢
I've long held reservations about Dan Schneider's work, save for a few exceptions like The Amanda Show and Good Burger. Recent revelations have only confirmed my unease, prompting me to disengage from his productions.
Nickelodeon urgently needs to overhaul its management practices, implementing stringent protocols to prevent individuals like Schneider from exerting unchecked influence.
Regarding Rugrats 2021, it's release amid the SpongeBob spinoff discourse was ill-timed, even though that wasn't the intent. Being CGI (even if executive mandated) and the overblown controversy of Betty being a lesbian (Which mainly started because of that AV Club article) didn't help. Despite this, the reboot manages to honor the original while incorporating modern elements. While it doesn't surpass its predecessor, it offers some solid episodes, sometimes coming close to reaching the highs of the original Rugrats, though you would be willing to have to overlook the CGI and certain changes.
I hope Nickelodeon heeds these concerns and redirects its focus accordingly.
people nowadays get so tired of all the negativity on the net. For this guy Dan is the exception and he deserves all the karma for his actions.
I feel Disney Channel is in that same spot and nick in terms of relevance. Their cartoons are really all they have now and most people aren't going to Disney Channel itself to watch them. This is evident if you look at the Chibi anniversary short that they released last year to celebrate the channel "Happy Birthday, Disney Channel", and no joke, they didn't even reference any of their live action series made after Wizards of Waverly Place...from 2007. The only exception were any of their movies that got popular enough to franchise (Descendants & Zombies) and KC Undercover so they could include Zendaya in it because she herself is popular. But it really illustrates how much things have shifted from how things were 15 years ago.
And already, Disney has already shut down multiple international versions of Disney Channel such as in Australia, Italy, United Kingdom, Singapore, etc. because of the rise of Disney+ as the service is available in many different parts of the world.
Some of the "SJW Calart shows" at least have an audience and no it isn't just bold nosed dykes or leftest stereotypes. Many people have watched the Owl House even though I didn't care for it personally since I stopped watching cartoons years ago.
I agree but I also think that we should point out that all this shit has been known FOR YEARS! It's good that it's being talked about now but it honestly should've been way more known several years earlier.
I've been aware of how bad Nickelodeon is for years now, but this week really rubbed salt in the wound. Makes me feel horrible that I actively supported these programs, that the actors suffered for my entertainment. I wish nothing but the best for Alexis, Jennette, Drake, Amanda and anyone else who has suffered under Brian and Dan. I applaud the coworkers also taking action to show their distain against the network too.
Zoey101 hurts the most for me. It was the one I grew up with, and that I have the most nostalgia for. It's quite known now that most of the cast are genuine scum, or enablers at the very least. Watching the show fills me with dread now. Hearing Alexis' story the first time was so heartbreaking. It's one thing that Jamie, Sean, Matthew, Erin, Christopher, Kristin, Victoria and much more bullied and isolated the poor girl (and whom haven't apologized for it as adults 🤨), but even more that Dan himself participated in this too.
Fuck this industry. There's a special place in hell for people who hurt children.
9:44 I think that's true to everything now, not just Nick, it's like every show needs to be an immediate hit to get more than one season, like companies can't let a show moderately successful build a fanbase nowadays ong
Harvey Beaks should’ve been treated better including glitch techs
Fr. Even The Owl House needed time before it exploded in popularity. I guess I'm glad they at least got two full seasons and the 3 specials, since I'm positive it would've been buried if it were a Nicktoon. Rise of the TMNT and even Glitch Techs looked like they were well on their way to taking off when they both got cancelled too.
It's a problem with all the networks, but I think it's a lot worse with Nickelodeon. Molly McGee and Moon Girl aren't getting hidden away, at least.
One could even say Dan Schneider went on a…… downward, spiral downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral!!!
EmpLemon Reference.
The only way to watch Nickelodeon shows without cable at the time in the 2000’s is to get the shows on video & DVD 📀
If/when I ever watch the "Quiet on Set" doc, I will likely feel guilty and in need of a shower because...Nickelodeon was practically my childhood. It was probably in large part to my cable company not having Cartoon Network and I not quite being a Disney kid beyond some of the movies, but I loved Nickelodeon.
Unfortunately, like other cable networks...it seems to have lost what made it special and is going through the motions simply for ad revenue. I think if not for live sports, my family would've completely dropped live TV for streaming.
Yeah, same here. We've known Dan was a major creep for a long long time, but knowing all the scuzzy details is just going to make me feel ick. I'm glad it's bringing what happened to peoples attention, but I'm going to stay away from it for the same reason I don't watch true crime documentary stuff.
I love how Nickelodeon has basically speedrun through every checkbox on the "everything wrong with both the animation industry and the entertainment industry in general" a hundred times over
oh sorry, did I say "love" my mistake, I meant "want to do what The Gang did to Frank in that once Christmas Stop Motion sequence to the guys in charge for"
they have exposed themselves as devils and iam glad to see them in ruins now
Dan Schneider is so creepy he’d fit in a horror movie (with a death metal soundtrack!)
He's such a dork that slow paced Polka music would be more fitting
13:27 Jessie has to be up there. Bertram is a peak character
I love Jessie lol
@@JustEpic_Yt🎶 It feels like a party everyday!
@@cloudlion1610
HEY JESSIE!!!!🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
What intrigues me the most is if the rumored buyout of Paramount/Viacom by Warner Bros./Discovery ends up going through. While I doubt they'd get rid of Nickelodeon outright, I imagine it'll end up undergoing a massive overhaul so as not to end up with too much overlap with Cartoon Network. I can't help but wonder if Cartoon Network ends up being completely absorbed by Adult Swim (seeing how AS has been taking over more and more of CN's time with every passing year), with the more GA animation migrating over to Nickelodeon. Imagine a world where Spongebob and Teen Titans Go share a network - just _yeesh._
I like how Warner Bros. was slagging Disney for being monopolists for 10+ years before selling themselves to the fucking Discovery channel and getting involved with this. Hollywood continues to circle the drain.
*John K,Dan Schneider and Chris Savino.*
The most evil trio in the world of animation.💀
You forgot Doug TenNepel.
@@kootunesscrewyOh yeah,I had also forgotten about this homophobic monster.💀
(I miss Catscratch it was an underrated classic.😊)
@@Mr.Giegue Yeah. I also liked that one Random Cartoon short, Squirly Town.
If beliefs are what is your basis on whats a bad person then I'm sure plenty of people in the industry would be just as bad ⚰️@@kootunesscrewy
Based @@Mr.Giegue
For how much Nick was a part of many of our childhoods, it's impossible to fathom bothering to even turn on the channel now. And it's more than the rise of streaming services or anything else. It's telling that the abuse from back then is way more resonant than anything they're doing now.
And it's not like their competitors didn't have their own failures along the way - but somehow Nick has managed to outdo them through sheer shittiness.
Did we all simultaneously forget that Drake Bell went to jail for interacting with minors?
"Apparently" is all forgotten when people discovered what influenced Drake on doing that...
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732”influenced” is still doing it dude.
Victims become abusers, it's a cycle
Neither of these things are an excuse. There are thousands of victims who never become like their abusers.
@@slurpwis No one said ALL victims. But most abusers have been victims beforehand
I'm grateful I was more of a Cartoon Network guy growing up. Ned's Declassified was the best Nick live action show, and it isn't even close.
🎵 Oh Danny boy, the cops, the cops are coming 🎵
Lol
😂😂
Danny boy Danny boy, whatcha gonna do
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you
_Forget it, Jake. It's Hollywood._
The Pink Guy song, Nickelodeon Girls came to mind. Pretty screwed up that Dan got away with a lot of it.
I actually watched Nicktoons more than the main channel.
Pink guy song?
@@jskywalker58yeah, it was Joji’s first music career
I used to watch both Nicktoons and the main channel. Nicktoons was so awesome.
same, nicktoons had both the old and newer cartoons at the time while nick was mostly just sitcoms, spongebob and fairly odd parents
I feel awkward watching anything Dan Schneider created. Not Nickelodeon entirely, I can watch "Thundermans" perfectly fine, but something like "Drake & Josh", "Zoey 101", "iCarly", "Sam & Cat", "Henry Danger", "Game Shakers", and even my fav show ever "Victorious", I get this bad feeling that I shouldn't watch them, which sucks bc all of those shows meant something to my childhood.
Same
What about the non-Schneider shows on Nickelodeon?
@@GameLover-pz5zc Yeah
I'm sure this is going to be one of our childhood channels getting canceled for the dark history.
It's sad but the truth
Dan “Get in the Van” Schneider
Ha! 😂
14:50 AMPHIBIA GOD STILL BEING RELEVANT, they're releasing an artbook in November, after how good Marcy's Journal sold (and keep selling). Matt deidad te amo.
I find it sad because Nickelodeon was a HUGE part of my childhood. SpongeBob Squarepants was my favorite show growing up, until around the time I was 12 or 13 where I started to lose interest in it, but even then Sponge continued to be one of my favorites until I turned 17.
At the same time as SpongeBob I also loved Jimmy Nuetron, Fairly Odd Parents, Back at the Barnyard, Paw Patrol, the 2012 TMNT. Granted I did watch a fair share of Cartoon Network shows, as well as Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls on Disney, but Nick was my go-to.
I never really watched the sitcoms on any of the channels with the only Nick one I cared about being iCarly and Disney being Suite Life on Deck (never watched the original), so it's sad hearing about all of this now. What makes it worse is that my favorite show when I was 13 was replaced by another Nick show, The Loud House, which was then replaced by My Little Pony not soon after.
Now, I don't really care about Nickelodeon much and prefer some of the cooler, lore filled shows on Cartoon Network, but there are still 3 shows I like from Nick: Avatar, iCarly, and I want to check out Invader Zim. Never seen it. Oh and maybe Jimmy Neutron and Robot and Monster.
It hurts that Nick had all of this shady stuff behind the scenes, especially with one of my favorite shows right now being created by Dan. I like to separate the art from the artist but I really don't know how my veiwpoint on iCarly will be, since... Hello! Live action! Watching and seeing Dan's victims while they are there! And my brain will most likely see all the creepy things that I never saw before, and that scares me. Screw Dan Schneider.
Yeah me too
spongebob warned us about dirty dan
LS Mark Dan Schideder basically made Nickelodeon into a hot spot for traumatic experiences and memories. Hopefully Nickelodeon well learn from their mistakes and make their environment much more friendly, safe and positive.
Watching the documentary, it’s hard to look at Schneider’s shows now.
10:45 Nickelodeon just silently canceled that show alongside That Girl Lay Lay after the Quiet on Set Documentary
You don’t wanna know how much I wanted that girl lay lay to survive (I didn’t finish the latest season so I don’t know if it’s had a proper finale)
@@JustEpic_Yt I don't think it did
I really hope this leads to actual Legal action against Dan Schneider
It feels so weird that Disney Channel is honestly doing the best of the big 3 kids networks.
Their sitcoms aren't relevant much either but their cartoon output has been better; they have huge devoted fanbases, they get promotion and reruns, and even shows that got cancelled like The Owl House and The Ghost and Molly McGee didn't get screwed as badly as Nickleodeon would screw over shows (they weren't shoved onto Disney XD, they still got promotion, and, more importantly, their creators got plenty of time to give their shows a proper finale).
Which is ironic because Disney itself is in a shit show right now
However, despite Disney Channel doing the best; they closed most of the Disney Channels around the world. It's a shame that Kiff or Molly McGee wouldn't become popular as Phineas and Ferb or Gravity Falls due to that situation.
@@Trist233 Kiff is awesome. You should watch it.
Healthiest horse in the glue factory.
Healthiest horse in the glue factory.
But Mark he had a totally real interview where he apologized
Yeah…while he was fake crying mentioning drakes mom. Where he learned that from? Oh that’s right 😂😂
You know, as much as I agree about your rant on the state of Nickelodeon nowadays, I don't think it really matters in the long run. Kids still watch Nickelodeon in their masses (including my 11 year old brother), and probably ten years from now youtubers will say how great Nick was during their childhood with Loud House and Patrick Star's show or whatever and will complain on how bad it is in current time. It's a neverending cycle.
It’s sad that behind so many of our favorite shows, there was so much abuse going on onset for young child actors. Praying that they get healing 🙏🏼
I hope the young child stars are healing
@@scarletweb2106 yep
Ya know because most of the shows I consume nowadays are through streaming I kind of forget that the big three like Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney still have TV channels… I can’t remember the last time I legitimately watch TV on a channel
Dan "uhhh something bad" Schneider.
Every kids show is about music so that you can double launch them as actors and musicians
Something I find strange is that a show on Netflix right now called School Spirits used to be a paramount + original. It even says so at the beginning of the episodes. So if not even paramount + originals have to remain on paramount + I can see it going under very soon and moving everything back to Netflix