Love how Clear & Articulate the Trichur Brothers answers were to the questions, standing up for their convictions 🙏🏽🙏🏽 The FINAL Sentence is the Icing and reflecting their Respect for the Music & Humanity 🙏🏽😇🫶🏽
Rajaji in his introduction address of bhajagovindham sung by MSS amma music said that songs without bhakthi it is empty tinsel. He adds Sankaracharya has packed in bhajagovindam the concepts of life with bhakthi. For musicians as well as listeners it needs no mention music will be complete only when it is conglomerated or embedded with bhakthi. Bhakthi and gyana is beyond religion or caste and creed. Thigaraja, tulsidasa, purandaradasa, and Narayana bhattadri some among many composers have by their path of music have seen God or secured bliss of God. It is great that many musicians of public praise protested against the decision of music academy.
The sankracharya spoke in support of caste system if you watch his videos. Why do we need to take authenticity of rajaji he might be wrong na. TMK gives some new perspective to carnatic music taking it to several places, and I think he's right on that.
N murali is TMK relative and closely related to n ram. TMK bought this award and unworthy of this award and institution which he has been criticizing. How can TMK sing Tyagaraja Kritis which are an outpouring of devotion to lord Ram and use filthy language for lord rama and lord sita. TMK is a musical hemorrhoid.
Someone on Twitter mentioned he is a Terrorist who can sing well! That may be harsh but shows the feelings he evokes with his wicked writings and actions which reflect his hate filled thought process, looks like it is a family culture. We need our new warriors to fight back and protect our culture.
Such eloquence and clarity of thought. Keep the good work going Trichur Brothers I only hope all musicians invited will abstain from this horrible situation The present family members have destroyed The Hindu and now they are destroying the Classical music Sabhas.
While you are at it please ask all your millions of fans to boycott The Hindu as well. That wretched newspaper should probably be more aptly renamed “Indian Dawn” or “Indian People’s Daily” for their efforts to split India and the Hindus.
Hahaha, nothing new we know what would follow next..haven't you guys been saying boycott hindu for decades. It continues to be the hallmark of good English daily.
At one point Aroor claims TMK brought out some uncomfortable truths about carnatic music. Now let us ask some uncomfortable truths about TMK - he is on record sympathizing with 26/11 terrorist when he was given the death sentence. He preached that our society is barbaric for taking his life. But around the same time, he praised and encouraged the criminals who killed RSS workers in certain states. Is this not an example of hate against a particular community?? Next example in media- the Radia tapes saga- certainly it was the most shameful chapter of Indian media when media folks influenced policy by forcing PMO to appoint certain people as ministers. Isnt this against democracy?? These same media incited communal violence, justified Kashmiri Hindu genocide and got national awards for it. One of them even called Hon President Dr APJ Kalaam as bomb daddy. Did Aroor protest against any of the above?? Does this mean Aroor approves of these anti-democratic and hateful actions of his colleagues?? Please answer these uncomfortable questions.
A great interview with the Trichur Brothers on a subject that has generated a lot of controversy. The Trichur brothers have articulated their views with conviction, about music transcending religious and social barriers. Besides Yesudas, whom they cited, there are others like the nadaswaram-playing artists Sheik Mehboob Subhani and his wife Begum Kaleeshabi Mehboob, who are Carnatic music instrumentalists and have played at many venues. In fact, they have also performed with TM Krishna at some venues. But TM Krishna has stirred up unnecessary controversy by targeting a particular community with immature, flippant statements with more nuisance value than anything constructive or substantive. If he is truly a refined musician, he ought to cultivate humility and respect for his fellow musicians and for all communities, particularly the one that has provided the basis for his knowledge and skills as a Carnatic music artist .
Indian classical music by virtue is rooted in devotion and hence can not exist without the words, meanings, melody and emotion delivered. Obviously some one who does not carry this in him or her can not be considered to be a musician such as TMK.
@@parthibank2736He's not devoted to music in the right sense...if his belief of bringing this music out of the clutches of a certain sect is true, give back the award, stop signing in sabhas..after all the majority of these sabhas are dominated by them...and above all, stop singing Thyagaraja krithis by replacing the words...he has no right to do that..
@@eduxeducate9422Absolutely, when the mouth is shut, there can be devotion, when it opens and spews venom, there will be repurcussions like this one..belief has nothing to do with carnatic musicians alone but yes, but mouthing your own words in a Thyagaraja's krithis or praising EVR when he was the one who garlanded Lord Rama with footwear, the respect for such a believer reduces drastically....
Pranams to all artists who have returned their titles and boycotted the conference of the academy.... even palghat shri Ramprasad has returned palghat shri Mani Iyer's title back.... it's so heart warming to see uprisings against tmk within the Carnatic circle! Dhanyōsmi🙏🙏
Excellent opinion given by the Trissur brothers. Hats off to them. If one has respect for his or her profession, they need not worry about their progress. Their love and passion for the music will take them to reach the pinnacles in their life.Great!
Yes, because it keeps u away from your cultural values, also u stops analysing any situation from multiple dimensions,..u take decision based on generalising the situation..@@parthibank2736
TTK was one of founders of the Music Academy. TMK is his grand nephew. Nepotism, politics and privilege are being played out here. Nothing new, but they are finally being called out and protested against. Admiration and encouragement to the artists who have the courage to protect their art.
Is Carnatic music dominated by Brahmins? Of course. But does that equate to discrimination? Absolutely not. Opportunity for learning is given to all. However there are just a handful of people who would invest the kind of time and energy required for this art form. Also, the field is not monetarily rewarding in the initial phases. Not everyone accepts these predicaments. And coincidentally a majority of these handful turn out to be Brahmins. So TMK's argument is devoid of fact. Also, in an art form which is closely associated with Bhakti, the deity and composer are supreme and revered. There is no need to verbally abuse them to prove a point. Filthy language should not and will not be tolerated.
Carnatic Music evolved from something called "Tamizh-Isai" in the Cauvery delta region, not from Purandaradasa ( with due respects to Purundaradasa )...It is inherited legacy from a pre-existing culture, not from a person...
@@VinodKumar-oh9du Tamil songs are good. But it is fact that Karnatak music started from Madhwa Acharya and Purandara Dasa. That is why it is called Karnatak Music and Not Tamil Music. Don't be a fanatic and deny or destort facts.
@@VinodKumar-oh9du one must learn karnaric music to know the importance of Purandara dasa. He created the structure of learning process which every teacher uses now.
TM KRISHNA is undoubtedly an accomplished and erudite vocalist about whom none of his detractors have any thing adverse to say about his music credentials. His singing is devotional, soulful and mesmerising and he praises the Lord and his avatars with all reverence like any other musician. Awards are given on the basis of the merit of a Person's excellence in his field and not based on his personal views which may be anti traditional . Many of the music stalwarts had a nasty , tarnished and sullied personal morality in their lifetime and their personal integrity is debatable . Yet they were honoured ! The opposition is only to Krishna's modern views against conventional Carnatic heritage and customs, and its Brahminical mode of adherence to age old tradition.. Unlike the other musicians who have become famous because of their talents only , TMK stands as an intellectual colossus with an analytical mind to study the dynamics of Carnatics music. Hence he has been awarded the prestigious Magsaysay Award. His rational view about the Mridhangam having cow skin with leather straps, and his views about the legendary MS having been born in a Dasi family of non Brahmins are true and factual. These are irritating data to the Gomatha and Hindutva fanatics. However a large section of music lovers are behind TM KRISHNA . If Carnatic Music is so sacrosanct why are they bothered about criticism against it ?
Great to see such outstanding musicians come together and express their opinion which is also the opinion of thousands and thousands of other music lovers who abhor the divisive mindset of TMK which is a replica of dravidian parties. Singling out a perticular community because they remain silent.
Excellent interview. So articulate both brothers are and have expressed their views so well which really opens one’s mind to the kind of harm this TMKrishna chap has been doing!!
I am extremely happy you brothers for your honest and frankness. Though TMK a great musician he lacks the humility to respect other Artists. I applaud your decision. I am great fan of Carnatic Music and specially your fan. Every alternate day I hear your concerts. My pranams to both of you.
Great, the brothers are quite clear and to the point. This chap TM is a public disorder and he is roaming freely for some time. First clap goes to these girls who penned down what was burning inside for many...
Y is the Academy giving an award to a person like TMK who is avoiding them for a decade? What is this unnecessary appeasement?! He says Carnatic music is Brahmin dominated. The roots of our traditional dance and music can be traced to Devdasi community. Many legends come from that community. Bharat Ratna MSS is not a Brahmin but revered by all. When you point it out to this fool he says she brahminised herself. In today's world anyone can practise any art. Even so, so what if something is dominated by Brahmins? Shilpa shastra is dominated by Vishwakarmas, business is dominated by marwaris and baniyaas, nadaswaram and folk arts are dominated by other communities, these things are passed down the families but dsnt mean others can't practise. I wish more artists will boycott TMK. U can't give an award based on 'artistic merit' alone when the so called artist is spouting venom against the very system which nurtures the art? Will u appreciate the artistic talent of someone coming to destroy ur house or draw boundaries?
Though TM Krishna is a talented musician,his views hurt others. His views are mostly pseudo secular and left oriented. That is why he is presiding over concerts sponsored by communists in kerala and karnataka
Having ideology is different but talking about the Gurus and the stalwarts in Carnatic music only a low lying person can say . classical art is not only about of skill but also the principle and character
What is wrong with Communist ? Are they not human beings? The Indian constitution gives the right to you and me and Krishna to speak about various issues. What's wrong? That is his ideology. மாற்றான் தோட்டத்து மல்லிகைக்கும் மணம் உண்டு
@@parthibank2736 communists never respect Bharatheya culture ,tradition arts .They rubbish everything related to Bharath as Brahminical ,anti secular, even though they are they themselves are pseudos as we see in Kerala
@@parthibank2736 Communists are anti Bharatheyas. They never respect the constitution where they rule.Also they are against the Bharatheeya culture, tradition ,art etc and they rubbish such things as Brahminical
Without Bhakti there is no Carnatic music. Unless the singer feels the devotion he or she is not a singer who can move listeners, just technical singing.
Bravo brothers. Salute you. Yes. One can not put up with distortions, prejudices and oneupmanship eternally. Besides glad that you have also exposed certain media who claim to be paragons of “ freedom of expression” Emperor is naked dude.
I don't understand why people can't accept Carnatic music in it's own way. Why they want to change it's style, system? These kind of finger pointing was not that much done towards Hindustani music. I remember a Bengali co worker from Kolkata blaming the whole Carnatic system and the practitioners that it is very difficult, it is after all music, why it needs so many rules and restrictions. See even if we change the rules will he come and sing? The point what Raga sisters made is very correct. Brahmins as well as Hindus are soft targets. We dont create violence, we are prone to forgiving and forgetting others mistakes as we follow Sanatana dharma, where we see god in every being. If TMK had commented anything about Other religion Gods, the entire scenario would have changed. Anybody can blame hindu beliefs, gods and culture. As a Sanatana dharmi we should always try to protect our culture. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Thank you Srikrishna and Ramkumar the way you expressed yourselves about thecore of the problem with TM K and I am having thesamethe same idea. Thank you ones again
Krishna has played into the hands of Politicians. He can have an ideology / belief but that does not bean degrading others. I dont think any one stops people from learning Carnatic Music. Agree there are challenges to break into the top ranks where some level of protectionism is there like any other profession. But if you have talent no one can stop your progression. At the same time does not mean you can throw slanderous comments against the icons of the Carnatic art and expect people to agree such kind of recognition. Hope one positive thing that can come out of this is the top Carnatic singers, the majority of whom currently from a single community take all efforts to take Carnatic music to masses through their programs. Like how Ilayaraj did with his music in films.
Carnatic music transcends beyond religion etc etc. We have had Nadaswaram maestro Shaikh Chinna Moulana Sahib, was highly respected and honoured with Sangita Kalanidhi. Several other awardees like Rajaratnam Pillai, are even today remembered for their contribution to the world of music . The art form is highly revered and every artist is into a worship mode when they present a concert.
Chinmayi Sripada should abandon her last name. She is a grand daughter of the greatest musician Sripada Pinakapani. She is belittling Carnatic musicians by saying they are less than Flim industry. In every industry there are moles. That doesn't make the whole industry abusive.
@@VinodKumar-oh9du when she said Carnatic music world is lower than film industry, thats what it means. In such cases you need to the attack the perpetrators not the whole Carnatic world. Carnatic music world is majority is good. You wil awlays see bad apples everywhere. I know they should not get away, as woman I agree with that. But that doesn't make it ok to blame everyone in that field
Music be in any form Carnatic classical or Hindustani or Western even film music it is Music. It doesn’t have caste ,creed or Religion.T.M Krishna’s claim and comments on Carnatic that as though it belongs to one community is HIGHLY CONDEMNAblEI come from a music family background from Chennai lived in Delhi after marriage settled down in Bangalore practicing law. I am 82 years presently on a visit to my daughter’s house in Chicago listening to this controversial talk about conferring Sangria Kalanadhi.on TH-cam I have listened to the legendary musicians Semmangudi Chembai KVN Madurai Mani Aiyar GNB and on. Alathur brothers Hyderabad brothers MSSubbalskmi Ml Vanthakumari I still go to live live programmes .
I never understood one thing ever since I started tuning to Carnatic music. Why is music academy considered that big and that award is considered the ‘highest’ award? They are a bunch of humans and they have made several mistakes. I hear the list of musicians who got that award as the proof of their greatness. But, there are several great musicians who were never awarded. Why is music academy that great?
Great question. I think it’s just a matter of emphasis that Carnatic musicians have placed on that particular institution over the years, in terms of standards and rigor. It’s like scientists being awarded Nobel prize for groundbreaking work or people being awarded civilian awards like Padma agree/Padmabhushan - while it’s not that these award winners are the only people who have done important work and have contributed to science and society, it’s just a form of recognition coming from an organization that upholds values such as high technical prowess, ability to contribute original work, social work and many other factors. Music Academy or for that matter any organization/system is ultimately created by humans and people’s contributions are then evaluated based on those accepted standards. Music Academy values certain standards of music as quality music and people consider it important when such an organization is recognizing one’s work. Imagine you working with a boss who values quality work of high standard and sets the bar super high - would you not feel happy when you receive a word of appreciation of them? Similarly, music academy’s recognition might mean a lot for people in the field of Carnatic music. Now, why certain artists were/are not awarded and is the selection process transparent, devoid of political intentions etc., are a whole set of different questions which I have no clue of. This is just my speculative answer for your question - I could be wrong 😊
We admire Trichur Brothers for their Divine Music Values they have, now stand up for Carnatic World . They are very modest and diplomatic at the sane time strongly registered all our Views.
My favorites Malladi Bros,Trichur Bros violin late Dwaram Venkatasami Naidu Lalgudi . Flute Mali TN Krishnan. In the Hindustani TN Rajam is my favorite. For MS Amma Kandadevi Alaagirisamy was the accompanying violin artist.
The Sangeet Kalanidhi Award has lost its shine with this incident. THIS award conferred is political Mr. N Ram, if you are listening. And not what the sisters did.
I salute both brothers for their contributions to the carnatic world. T M Krishna should also dedicate himself where he came from..must be someone insuianated in his mind to go in different directions
Namaskaram The devils always take different forms, different routes different colours different subjects anywhere, anytime, any place by anyone. So we have to be very careful and away from these evils. God please save us from all these Rakshasas Asurars Devils Demons Saithaans Hooligans Saathaans Rowdies Goons Dadaas Goondas and all these negative evil forces.
Being a Brahmin, we have grown up listening to MS Subbulakshmi Amma, Yesudas ji songs never were we informed not to listen or discriminate them with other singers..we wake up with suprabhta and I play Harivarasanam for my kids while sleeping ..we see them just like a person next to God..i myself had non Brahmin carnatic music teachers..this kind of castism barely exists in today's Brahmin families it is just the hidden agenda of the leftist to ignite a fire that never exist..
N.Murali of Music academy spoil Hindu paper previously, now doing Music & Music academy Now. Kudo's the brothers & Sisters (Ranjini & Gayathri. Royal Salute.
Anyone has their own opinion. If bhakti is the basis, then one could have it done as a poetry recital. A musician when trying to imitate Thyagaraja's bhakti is doing a disservice as that cannot and should not be imitated. Afterall, imitations are always imitations. The private opinions of artists should not be the basis of judging them. They have to be judged solely by the standard of their art and nothing else. Compartmentalisation is the quality of lesser beings.
If you take a step ahead, there might be an invisible hand dividing Hindus. Let us coolly handle this and ensure solidarity against wrong forces. TMK is as dear to us as other musicians with a different opinion temporarily ❤
These boycotting artists are blocking/deleting all comments on their social media that express even mild disagreement. They are an intolerant bunch. I'm only going to TM K's concerts from now on. These musicians are repulsive, and doing Carnatic much more harm than good.
If someone who has no idea about South Indian carnatic music, if they listen, watch and appreciate MS Amma’s music, if they are not surprised with an element of confusion that she is not a Brahmin by birth, it will show the underlying subtext of this particular craft and artistry, would it not ? Is this disrespectful of MS Amma ? No. We should apologize to her for indirectly forcing her to shed her identity for making her mark, and attain her level of celebrity. May her soul rest in peace.
Excellent interview. KARNATIC MUSIC and Indian classical music UNITES, TRANSCENDS caste, creed, religion. TM Krishna types only SEE DIFFERENCES. TYPICAL DIVISIVE, LEFTIST
Hello All. If we were to accept Mr. Murali's stance that the award is solely on the basis of musical prowess then it does injustice to the the other awardees because the award itself draws it's reputation from the people who have accepted it in the past. What a person embodies is much more than the ability to flex the vocal cords and recite ragas, as challenging as that might be.
Why is the music academy sending such a threatening letter to just women? Are they sending replies to other men who have refused to sing. How dare they talk to women like that. Can you ask?
what shield are you talking about? Did you not hear them give so many examples? Also, as someone from the field myself, I have NEVER seen anyone discriminate when it comes to teaching others carnatic music based on their caste or religion. We've have folks age 4 to 70s learn from us from practically all sections of the society
It's because most non-brahmins don't want to learn carnatic music since there is no money in it but will simply keep blaming the brahmins of discrimination. Just like how they blame the priests and practicing vedic brahmins of discrimination. Truth is nobody really wants to have those jobs because there is no money in it. Their priorities are different. The mentality of pursuing something with no tangible benefits lies in different fields for different people. This is just brought up as an argument for debates only. For most Tamil Brahmins learning carnatic music is akin to practicing their religion and hence will pursue/listen/promote it at all costs. There are so many such art forms from our past that are dominated by certain communities; why isn't that perceived as discrimination against others?
ALL DMK functionaries' cadre-workers and the entire tamil film freternity will be ordered to attend and perform at madras music academy concerts to fill the auditorium in the last week of Dec 2024 to show how popular T.M.Krishna is followed by Rajya sabha seat.
TMK is the DMK of Indian musical society which has millions of songs in praise of Gods of Sanatana Dharma. Hope people understand why true musicians are against TMK.
Excellent discussion, pranams to Trichur brothers for keeping it honest, taking a sensible and an assertive stand.
Love how Clear & Articulate the Trichur Brothers answers were to the questions, standing up for their convictions 🙏🏽🙏🏽
The FINAL Sentence is the Icing and reflecting their Respect for the Music & Humanity 🙏🏽😇🫶🏽
Wow! How articulate !!! Just fantastic to see how well they justify their stance in a matter of minutes. Clear minds! Gained my respect!
Standing for Dharma is very, very important. Thank you, Tiruchur Brothers.
Rajaji in his introduction address of bhajagovindham sung by MSS amma music said that songs without bhakthi it is empty tinsel. He adds Sankaracharya has packed in bhajagovindam the concepts of life with bhakthi. For musicians as well as listeners it needs no mention music will be complete only when it is conglomerated or embedded with bhakthi. Bhakthi and gyana is beyond religion or caste and creed. Thigaraja, tulsidasa, purandaradasa, and Narayana bhattadri some among many composers have by their path of music have seen God or secured bliss of God. It is great that many musicians of public praise protested against the decision of music academy.
The sankracharya spoke in support of caste system if you watch his videos.
Why do we need to take authenticity of rajaji he might be wrong na.
TMK gives some new perspective to carnatic music taking it to several places, and I think he's right on that.
Thankyou Trichur brothers for boldy voicing your thoughts.May you both always receive the blessings of Lord Ram.Jai Shree Ram
N murali is TMK relative and closely related to n ram. TMK bought this award and unworthy of this award and institution which he has been criticizing. How can TMK sing Tyagaraja Kritis which are an outpouring of devotion to lord Ram and use filthy language for lord rama and lord sita. TMK is a musical hemorrhoid.
Well said. TM Krishna is a daiva drohi and Dharma drohi.
TM Krishna singing Thyagayya's krithis is like devil quoting the scriptures. It will be insult to the sacred memory of the saint
But these gentlemen were mentioning About indian express
@@subramaniyamshankaran770 That shameless Hinduphobic Brahminophobic Crypto, Christianised Carnatic music. That's why he is backed by DMK
TMK is like the Udayanidhi of Carnatic music 😂😂
Exactly! The disciple of N Ram.
Yeah 😂😂 idiot like sangiee cow dung minds
People who get name and fame the easy way generally give birth to pappus. That's how and why pappus proliferate. And pappus support one another.
Someone on Twitter mentioned he is a Terrorist who can sing well! That may be harsh but shows the feelings he evokes with his wicked writings and actions which reflect his hate filled thought process, looks like it is a family culture. We need our new warriors to fight back and protect our culture.
@@MP-ux5xlCow piss culture?
Such eloquence and clarity of thought. Keep the good work going Trichur Brothers
I only hope all musicians invited will abstain from this horrible situation
The present family members have destroyed The Hindu and now they are destroying the Classical music Sabhas.
Being on the right side of history is very important... very touching words.
Trichur Brothers are wonderful. God bless them.
Extremely proud of this brave music fraternity that has taken bold stand against another talented, yet divisive musician like TM Krishna.
Trichur brothers.. very well articulated about music uniting society rather than dividing
Thank you Tiruchur Brothers for your stand❤
While you are at it please ask all your millions of fans to boycott The Hindu as well. That wretched newspaper should probably be more aptly renamed “Indian Dawn” or “Indian People’s Daily” for their efforts to split India and the Hindus.
Hahaha, nothing new we know what would follow next..haven't you guys been saying boycott hindu for decades. It continues to be the hallmark of good English daily.
Yes. "The Hindu" should rename itself as "The Anti Hindu".
The Hindu newspaper is 'the Maoists' of Mount Road' aptly called by Sai Deepak!
At one point Aroor claims TMK brought out some uncomfortable truths about carnatic music.
Now let us ask some uncomfortable truths about TMK - he is on record sympathizing with 26/11 terrorist when he was given the death sentence. He preached that our society is barbaric for taking his life.
But around the same time, he praised and encouraged the criminals who killed RSS workers in certain states. Is this not an example of hate against a particular community??
Next example in media- the Radia tapes saga- certainly it was the most shameful chapter of Indian media when media folks influenced policy by forcing PMO to appoint certain people as ministers. Isnt this against democracy?? These same media incited communal violence, justified Kashmiri Hindu genocide and got national awards for it.
One of them even called Hon President Dr APJ Kalaam as bomb daddy. Did Aroor protest against any of the above?? Does this mean Aroor approves of these anti-democratic and hateful actions of his colleagues?? Please answer these uncomfortable questions.
Excellent! Anchor is pretty much dumb and arrogant. TMK brought vikaara sangeetam.
A great interview with the Trichur Brothers on a subject that has generated a lot of controversy. The Trichur brothers have articulated their views with conviction, about music transcending religious and social barriers. Besides Yesudas, whom they cited, there are others like the nadaswaram-playing artists Sheik Mehboob Subhani and his wife Begum Kaleeshabi Mehboob, who are Carnatic music instrumentalists and have played at many venues. In fact, they have also performed with TM Krishna at some venues. But TM Krishna has stirred up unnecessary controversy by targeting a particular community with immature, flippant statements with more nuisance value than anything constructive or substantive. If he is truly a refined musician, he ought to cultivate humility and respect for his fellow musicians and for all communities, particularly the one that has provided the basis for his knowledge and skills as a Carnatic music artist .
Indian classical music by virtue is rooted in devotion and hence can not exist without the words, meanings, melody and emotion delivered. Obviously some one who does not carry this in him or her can not be considered to be a musician such as TMK.
Is Krishna not devoted? Is he not devoted to music?
If he does not respect the lyrics of music it implies that he does not respect what it attempts to impart@@parthibank2736
Can devotion exist without music/art???are only the "carnatic singers " true believers??
@@parthibank2736He's not devoted to music in the right sense...if his belief of bringing this music out of the clutches of a certain sect is true, give back the award, stop signing in sabhas..after all the majority of these sabhas are dominated by them...and above all, stop singing Thyagaraja krithis by replacing the words...he has no right to do that..
@@eduxeducate9422Absolutely, when the mouth is shut, there can be devotion, when it opens and spews venom, there will be repurcussions like this one..belief has nothing to do with carnatic musicians alone but yes, but mouthing your own words in a Thyagaraja's krithis or praising EVR when he was the one who garlanded Lord Rama with footwear, the respect for such a believer reduces drastically....
Well said you both. I think TM has just been mischievous and especially the Music Academy committee.
Kudos to the Trichur Brothers for standing up for what is right!🙏
Pranams to all artists who have returned their titles and boycotted the conference of the academy.... even palghat shri Ramprasad has returned palghat shri Mani Iyer's title back.... it's so heart warming to see uprisings against tmk within the Carnatic circle! Dhanyōsmi🙏🙏
TM Krishna has attacked devotion, which is the very foundation of Karnatak Music.🙏🏽
Excellent opinion given by the Trissur brothers. Hats off to them.
If one has respect for his or her profession, they need not worry about their progress. Their love and passion for the music will take them to reach the pinnacles in their life.Great!
My namaskrams and high respect to trichur brothers 🙏🙏🙏
yes, to get a column on Hindu, you need to be a leftist, anti brahmin and of course , come from the upper echelons of Chennai culture ...
Is it wrong to be leftist ?
Well put. You should add “woke” to your list of deplorables.
Music is universal and it may not exist without human beings "" brahmin or non brahmin"" doesn't matter
Yes, because it keeps u away from your cultural values, also u stops analysing any situation from multiple dimensions,..u take decision based on generalising the situation..@@parthibank2736
@@parthibank2736 Not at all, if one has the morals, ethics and BALLS to be leftist towards all religions and not be selective!!!!
TTK was one of founders of the Music Academy. TMK is his grand nephew. Nepotism, politics and privilege are being played out here. Nothing new, but they are finally being called out and protested against. Admiration and encouragement to the artists who have the courage to protect their art.
Great stand taken by Trichur brothers!!! Huge respect.
Is Carnatic music dominated by Brahmins? Of course. But does that equate to discrimination? Absolutely not. Opportunity for learning is given to all. However there are just a handful of people who would invest the kind of time and energy required for this art form. Also, the field is not monetarily rewarding in the initial phases. Not everyone accepts these predicaments. And coincidentally a majority of these handful turn out to be Brahmins. So TMK's argument is devoid of fact. Also, in an art form which is closely associated with Bhakti, the deity and composer are supreme and revered. There is no need to verbally abuse them to prove a point. Filthy language should not and will not be tolerated.
Purandara Dasa is considered as the father of Karnatak Music. Purandara Dasa was not a Brahmin. Devotion is the backbone of Karnataka Music.
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Carnatic Music evolved from something called "Tamizh-Isai" in the Cauvery delta region, not from Purandaradasa ( with due respects to Purundaradasa )...It is inherited legacy from a pre-existing culture, not from a person...
@@VinodKumar-oh9du Tamil songs are good. But it is fact that Karnatak music started from Madhwa Acharya and Purandara Dasa. That is why it is called Karnatak Music and Not Tamil Music. Don't be a fanatic and deny or destort facts.
@@whocareswhoami7278well said
@@VinodKumar-oh9du one must learn karnaric music to know the importance of Purandara dasa. He created the structure of learning process which every teacher uses now.
Is this debate required at this moment? We should not lose focus of the main issue here
TM KRISHNA is undoubtedly an accomplished and erudite vocalist about whom none of his detractors have any thing adverse to say about his music credentials. His singing is devotional, soulful and mesmerising and he praises the Lord and his avatars with all reverence like any other musician.
Awards are given on the basis of the merit of a Person's excellence in his field and not based on his personal views which may be anti traditional . Many of the music stalwarts had a nasty , tarnished and sullied personal morality in their lifetime and their personal integrity is debatable . Yet they were honoured !
The opposition is only to Krishna's modern views against conventional Carnatic heritage and customs, and its Brahminical mode of adherence to age old tradition.. Unlike the other musicians who have become famous because of their talents only , TMK stands as an intellectual colossus with an analytical mind to study the dynamics of Carnatics music. Hence he has been awarded the prestigious Magsaysay Award.
His rational view about the Mridhangam having cow skin with leather straps, and his views about the legendary MS having been born in a Dasi family of non Brahmins are true and factual. These are irritating data to the Gomatha and Hindutva fanatics. However a large section of music lovers are behind TM KRISHNA .
If Carnatic Music is so sacrosanct why are they bothered about criticism against it ?
My respect for the Trichur Brothers has gone up immensely. We need to stand for our values.
Great to see such outstanding musicians come together and express their opinion which is also the opinion of thousands and thousands of other music lovers who abhor the divisive mindset of TMK which is a replica of dravidian parties. Singling out a perticular community because they remain silent.
TMK can now sing in DMK rallys. Look how TMK and DMK rhyme 😅
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Excellent interview. So articulate both brothers are and have expressed their views so well which really opens one’s mind to the kind of harm this TMKrishna chap has been doing!!
Very articulate, authentic and logical perspective of Trichur brothers! Real artists!
I have always liked your music. But this is perhaps the best! More strength to you
I am extremely happy you brothers for your honest and frankness. Though TMK a great musician he lacks the humility to respect other Artists. I applaud your decision. I am great fan of Carnatic Music and specially your fan. Every alternate day I hear your concerts. My pranams to both of you.
Great, the brothers are quite clear and to the point. This chap TM is a public disorder and he is roaming freely for some time. First clap goes to these girls who penned down what was burning inside for many...
Y is the Academy giving an award to a person like TMK who is avoiding them for a decade? What is this unnecessary appeasement?!
He says Carnatic music is Brahmin dominated. The roots of our traditional dance and music can be traced to Devdasi community. Many legends come from that community. Bharat Ratna MSS is not a Brahmin but revered by all. When you point it out to this fool he says she brahminised herself. In today's world anyone can practise any art. Even so, so what if something is dominated by Brahmins? Shilpa shastra is dominated by Vishwakarmas, business is dominated by marwaris and baniyaas, nadaswaram and folk arts are dominated by other communities, these things are passed down the families but dsnt mean others can't practise. I wish more artists will boycott TMK. U can't give an award based on 'artistic merit' alone when the so called artist is spouting venom against the very system which nurtures the art? Will u appreciate the artistic talent of someone coming to destroy ur house or draw boundaries?
When truth is spoken, you are hurt because you are brainwashed.
well said
Though TM Krishna is a talented musician,his views hurt others. His views are mostly pseudo secular and left oriented. That is why he is presiding over concerts sponsored by communists in kerala and karnataka
Having ideology is different but talking about the Gurus and the stalwarts in Carnatic music only a low lying person can say . classical art is not only about of skill but also the principle and character
What is wrong with Communist ? Are they not human beings?
The Indian constitution gives the right to you and me and Krishna to speak about various issues.
What's wrong? That is his ideology.
மாற்றான் தோட்டத்து மல்லிகைக்கும் மணம் உண்டு
@@parthibank2736which communist is human? So far Bengal, Kerala and Tamilnadu have shown how communist are. Not something to gloat about.
@@parthibank2736 communists never respect Bharatheya culture ,tradition arts .They rubbish everything related to Bharath as Brahminical ,anti secular, even though they are they themselves are pseudos as we see in Kerala
@@parthibank2736 Communists are anti Bharatheyas. They never respect the constitution where they rule.Also they are against the Bharatheeya culture, tradition ,art etc and they rubbish such things as Brahminical
well articulated Tiruchur brothers and more power to you
🎉🎉 Dev.. Desh ..Dharma ..above all
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Well said Trishur brothers. let’s unite with art and not let divisive thought processes be encouraged
Without Bhakti there is no Carnatic music. Unless the singer feels the devotion he or she is not a singer who can move listeners, just technical singing.
Bravo brothers. Salute you. Yes. One can not put up with distortions, prejudices and oneupmanship eternally. Besides glad that you have also exposed certain media who claim to be paragons of “ freedom of expression” Emperor is naked dude.
Very aptly put out by Trichur brothers .
I don't understand why people can't accept Carnatic music in it's own way. Why they want to change it's style, system? These kind of finger pointing was not that much done towards Hindustani music. I remember a Bengali co worker from Kolkata blaming the whole Carnatic system and the practitioners that it is very difficult, it is after all music, why it needs so many rules and restrictions. See even if we change the rules will he come and sing? The point what Raga sisters made is very correct. Brahmins as well as Hindus are soft targets. We dont create violence, we are prone to forgiving and forgetting others mistakes as we follow Sanatana dharma, where we see god in every being. If TMK had commented anything about Other religion Gods, the entire scenario would have changed. Anybody can blame hindu beliefs, gods and culture. As a Sanatana dharmi we should always try to protect our culture. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Guys you are on right track. You are standing up for corrrect and right reasons.
Great blessed brothers,keep your values God bless you
Thank you Srikrishna and Ramkumar the way you expressed yourselves about thecore of the problem with TM K and I am having thesamethe same idea. Thank you ones again
Krishna has played into the hands of Politicians. He can have an ideology / belief but that does not bean degrading others. I dont think any one stops people from learning Carnatic Music. Agree there are challenges to break into the top ranks where some level of protectionism is there like any other profession. But if you have talent no one can stop your progression. At the same time does not mean you can throw slanderous comments against the icons of the Carnatic art and expect people to agree such kind of recognition. Hope one positive thing that can come out of this is the top Carnatic singers, the majority of whom currently from a single community take all efforts to take Carnatic music to masses through their programs. Like how Ilayaraj did with his music in films.
Carnatic music transcends beyond religion etc etc. We have had Nadaswaram maestro Shaikh Chinna Moulana Sahib, was highly respected and honoured with Sangita Kalanidhi. Several other awardees like Rajaratnam Pillai, are even today remembered for their contribution to the world of music . The art form is highly revered and every artist is into a worship mode when they present a concert.
Well said .All the best wishes Trichur brothers
This is a great interview and the brothers spoke very eloquently and explained several points.
Kudos. High time that an action like this was taken
Chinmayi Sripada should abandon her last name. She is a grand daughter of the greatest musician Sripada Pinakapani. She is belittling Carnatic musicians by saying they are less than Flim industry. In every industry there are moles. That doesn't make the whole industry abusive.
She may have grievances, but oflate she is toeing the urban naxal thought.
All she is saying is take action action certain sex predators masquerading as sageetha vidwans, not the entire set-up
@@VinodKumar-oh9du when she said Carnatic music world is lower than film industry, thats what it means. In such cases you need to the attack the perpetrators not the whole Carnatic world. Carnatic music world is majority is good. You wil awlays see bad apples everywhere. I know they should not get away, as woman I agree with that. But that doesn't make it ok to blame everyone in that field
It takes another life time for her to be on par with carnatic musicians.
Kinks are always there in a graph
Very clear, straight forward clarification. Sad development for music!!!
Music be in any form Carnatic classical or Hindustani or Western even film music it is Music. It doesn’t have caste ,creed or Religion.T.M Krishna’s claim and comments on Carnatic that as though it belongs to one community is HIGHLY CONDEMNAblEI come from a music family background from Chennai lived in Delhi after marriage settled down in Bangalore practicing law. I am 82 years presently on a visit to my daughter’s house in Chicago listening to this controversial talk about conferring Sangria Kalanadhi.on TH-cam I have listened to the legendary musicians Semmangudi Chembai KVN Madurai Mani Aiyar GNB and on. Alathur brothers Hyderabad brothers MSSubbalskmi Ml Vanthakumari I still go to live live programmes .
I never understood one thing ever since I started tuning to Carnatic music. Why is music academy considered that big and that award is considered the ‘highest’ award? They are a bunch of humans and they have made several mistakes. I hear the list of musicians who got that award as the proof of their greatness. But, there are several great musicians who were never awarded. Why is music academy that great?
Great question. I think it’s just a matter of emphasis that Carnatic musicians have placed on that particular institution over the years, in terms of standards and rigor. It’s like scientists being awarded Nobel prize for groundbreaking work or people being awarded civilian awards like Padma agree/Padmabhushan - while it’s not that these award winners are the only people who have done important work and have contributed to science and society, it’s just a form of recognition coming from an organization that upholds values such as high technical prowess, ability to contribute original work, social work and many other factors. Music Academy or for that matter any organization/system is ultimately created by humans and people’s contributions are then evaluated based on those accepted standards. Music Academy values certain standards of music as quality music and people consider it important when such an organization is recognizing one’s work. Imagine you working with a boss who values quality work of high standard and sets the bar super high - would you not feel happy when you receive a word of appreciation of them? Similarly, music academy’s recognition might mean a lot for people in the field of Carnatic music. Now, why certain artists were/are not awarded and is the selection process transparent, devoid of political intentions etc., are a whole set of different questions which I have no clue of. This is just my speculative answer for your question - I could be wrong 😊
We admire Trichur Brothers for their Divine Music Values they have, now stand up for Carnatic World . They are very modest and diplomatic at the sane time strongly registered all our Views.
Dear Trichur Brothers. I love your music. You both are gods of music. Absolutely Divine. Your words in this discussion is divine music to my ears.
Congrats..well explained
21:10 People say TMK=DMK..and hence newspaper is backing. Is freedom of expression is one way road? This interview of Thiruchur brothers is just great
Congradulations trichur brothers.
Calling a stick a stick has now become public thank insta, whatsapp yt and fb.❤ Support Trichur bros as truth is with them.
My favorites Malladi Bros,Trichur Bros violin late Dwaram Venkatasami Naidu Lalgudi . Flute Mali TN Krishnan. In the Hindustani TN Rajam is my favorite. For MS Amma Kandadevi Alaagirisamy was the accompanying violin artist.
Excellent interview
Thank Trichur brothers .. you guys are my heroes!! 😍
Kudos to trichur brothers for this stand
The Sangeet Kalanidhi Award has lost its shine with this incident. THIS award conferred is political Mr. N Ram, if you are listening. And not what the sisters did.
I salute both brothers for their contributions to the carnatic world. T M Krishna should also dedicate himself where he came from..must be someone insuianated in his mind to go in different directions
Bycott music conference presided by TMK.
Great respect you sir 🙏
Namaskaram
The devils always take different forms, different routes different colours different subjects anywhere, anytime, any place by anyone.
So we have to be very careful and away from these evils.
God please save us from all these Rakshasas Asurars Devils Demons Saithaans Hooligans Saathaans Rowdies Goons Dadaas Goondas and all these negative evil forces.
Awesome awesome Trichur Brothers!!!
TMK is above all,this jokers. Be it music sisters or brothers. He’s is like Ramanujam of Carnatic music. Transforming and taking it to the masses.
Being a Brahmin, we have grown up listening to MS Subbulakshmi Amma, Yesudas ji songs never were we informed not to listen or discriminate them with other singers..we wake up with suprabhta and I play Harivarasanam for my kids while sleeping ..we see them just like a person next to God..i myself had non Brahmin carnatic music teachers..this kind of castism barely exists in today's Brahmin families it is just the hidden agenda of the leftist to ignite a fire that never exist..
N.Murali of Music academy spoil Hindu paper previously, now doing Music & Music academy Now. Kudo's the brothers & Sisters (Ranjini & Gayathri. Royal Salute.
Anyone has their own opinion. If bhakti is the basis, then one could have it done as a poetry recital. A musician when trying to imitate Thyagaraja's bhakti is doing a disservice as that cannot and should not be imitated. Afterall, imitations are always imitations.
The private opinions of artists should not be the basis of judging them. They have to be judged solely by the standard of their art and nothing else.
Compartmentalisation is the quality of lesser beings.
If you take a step ahead, there might be an invisible hand dividing Hindus. Let us coolly handle this and ensure solidarity against wrong forces. TMK is as dear to us as other musicians with a different opinion temporarily ❤
These boycotting artists are blocking/deleting all comments on their social media that express even mild disagreement. They are an intolerant bunch. I'm only going to TM K's concerts from now on. These musicians are repulsive, and doing Carnatic much more harm than good.
I now started hearing T M Krishna.Amazing artist
Namaskarams to u both🙏
Long live Trissur Brothers.
Murali joseph is the head of music academy N Ram The Hindu paper is a christian and periyar follower so is murali n and t m krishna
If someone who has no idea about South Indian carnatic music, if they listen, watch and appreciate MS Amma’s music, if they are not surprised with an element of confusion that she is not a Brahmin by birth, it will show the underlying subtext of this particular craft and artistry, would it not ? Is this disrespectful of MS Amma ? No. We should apologize to her for indirectly forcing her to shed her identity for making her mark, and attain her level of celebrity. May her soul rest in peace.
Excellent interview.
KARNATIC MUSIC and Indian classical music UNITES, TRANSCENDS caste, creed, religion.
TM Krishna types only SEE DIFFERENCES.
TYPICAL DIVISIVE, LEFTIST
Thank you brothers
Bold stand !!! 👏👏
When cursing and criticising sanatan dharm is considered as progressive, it shows the sickness of that mind.
Absolutely true
OMG THESE ANCHORS on this channel SEEM SO AMBIGUOUS & provoking too
Hello All.
If we were to accept Mr. Murali's stance that the award is solely on the basis of musical prowess then it does injustice to the the other awardees because the award itself draws it's reputation from the people who have accepted it in the past. What a person embodies is much more than the ability to flex the vocal cords and recite ragas, as challenging as that might be.
These brothers speak so well
Thank you for your strong words...
Why is the music academy sending such a threatening letter to just women? Are they sending replies to other men who have refused to sing. How dare they talk to women like that. Can you ask?
Well said. Shiv Aroor seems to have forgotten how denigrating Murali's letter is.
Its doubtful if that letter even came from him..they all are after all puppets now ..
In Tamilnadu, Carnatic music is not inclusive guys thats true! Mostly Brahmins dominate the art, and there is a unprecedented sheild😢
what shield are you talking about? Did you not hear them give so many examples? Also, as someone from the field myself, I have NEVER seen anyone discriminate when it comes to teaching others carnatic music based on their caste or religion. We've have folks age 4 to 70s learn from us from practically all sections of the society
It's because most non-brahmins don't want to learn carnatic music since there is no money in it but will simply keep blaming the brahmins of discrimination. Just like how they blame the priests and practicing vedic brahmins of discrimination. Truth is nobody really wants to have those jobs because there is no money in it. Their priorities are different. The mentality of pursuing something with no tangible benefits lies in different fields for different people. This is just brought up as an argument for debates only. For most Tamil Brahmins learning carnatic music is akin to practicing their religion and hence will pursue/listen/promote it at all costs. There are so many such art forms from our past that are dominated by certain communities; why isn't that perceived as discrimination against others?
@@shaliniramji Money gives a different perspective to this totally! I agree 😲
ALL DMK functionaries' cadre-workers and the entire tamil film freternity will be ordered to attend and perform at madras music academy concerts to fill the auditorium in the last week of Dec 2024 to show how popular T.M.Krishna is followed by Rajya sabha seat.
TM Krishan in Ravana path in some aspects
Ravana has vidvath but don’t accept/love Rama
So in way TMK is ravana
TMK is the DMK of Indian musical society which has millions of songs in praise of Gods of Sanatana Dharma. Hope people understand why true musicians are against TMK.
No, if artists are recognized on their merits, not bowing down to mma, does Didly to these revered musicians! Hurray to all these brave musicians
T m krishna can teach music to all.good. joining the dmk/Dk bandwagon to denigrate a particular community because periyar said so in those days.