@@VCGConstruction Well i must be a fool ,cuz i bought this last night ' its light ,compact and for kitchen and baths , i see the use , plus i need the write off win -win .
10:25 this is why I love this channel out of all the videos I’ve seen on this tool you’re the only one that demonstrates this feature. Today my team had to drill a hole through a metal beam that rested inside of a wall to fish wire. The angle was so weird and we had such limited space. No ones drill could fit through the hole so took this out my bag and transformed it with the right angle and chuck attachments and blew their minds. This was my first tool ever I highly recommend
For those that compare this to the Festool; I don’t own any Festool tools, but I own a bunch of M12 and M18 tools. This allows me to use my existing batteries and fits into my existing system perfectly. Also, this unit is more flexible. Great job, Milwaukee, for recognizing a great tool design - and improving on it.
I've had mine for about a year and use it all the time, but I combined it with the hydraulic impact driver in one bag, and all my bits in another bag. This is the best I've used for camper woodworking (38 years). Tight space access is great. I bought this knowing I'd be solving a lot of issues other attempted designs did not quite solve... this did not disappoint.
Milwaukee should include their multi volt charger so that when you buy a 12 volt system, all you need is a bare 18v tool with a free battery promotional and you're ready to rock and roll.
I have M12 and 20V Max and Flexvolt so it wouldn't do me any good ;-) But I understand your desire. Understand their price point competitiveness and wastage factors and that the multivolt charger is more expensive to produce.
Im a deck builder Vince , im going to tell you , this is a game changer when it comes to building Rails , the first time a saw it i have been waiting for it to come out, and the main reason is the offset drive! I saw you could not think of a situation when to use it , but when we are building composite rails , so meny times the body or your impact or drill wont allow you to align the tool to drive straight or even worse , a chuck would hit a spindle or top rail leaving a mark , this tool is a problem solver 👍🏻
I just bought one (my first cordless tool ever actually) and I love it! My favorite thing about it is the ability to swap quickly between driving and drilling. It makes a two tool job a one tool job. My home workshop is tiny so having something so compact is great.
All big name companies make this tool I seen a dewalt, bosch, ryob, and makita but I use my impact driver for everything I got specially bits for multi material drilling.
I went from m18 to m12 because I already had the multivolt charger. I bought a bare tool which came with a free battery. Next thing I knew I was hooked on m12 and now own a dozen or so m12 tools. (Some of which I bought as kits and now have several unused 12v chargers) unused = useless. No one likes paying for useless stuff.
I have only been buying M12 tools. I have a pair of 4.0 mAh batteries, a 2.0 mAh, and a ton of 1.5's to go with my assortment of tools...inflator, ratchet, hammer drill, hackzall, impact driver, light, cutoff saw, circular saw, and more. I have a ton of M12 2401 chargers. I wish they'd start including the multi because it would give me a reason to buy into the M18 line. There are tools in the line I would like. Then I'd get rid of my 12/20V DeWalt stuff in favor of Milwaukee everything.
I work in a cabinet shop, and this is my main driver for both fabrication and installation. Love it. The offset head and 90 degree can be real on-site life savers when other dudes don't have the capabilities!
I am just weekend DIYer who loves tools and who has recently caught the Milwaukee bug. Since I started my Milwaukee collection, I have been slowly adding tools. I finally got around to buying this one. OMFG....best tool I ever owned! If you only own one cordless tool, it has to be this one. The uses for it are endless. Also, I am a big guy, this fits my hand perfectly and does not feel too small or under-powered. But it is also small enough and light enough for my wife to use without being cumbersome. Milwaukee hit it out of the park with this one and so did your video Vince!
Can’t wait for this. Getting it day 1. As an electrician, this tool with that offset head is a dream come true for assembling and hanging ceiling fans. Will pay for itself the first day.
M12 chargers only feed the wastelands because they pretty much all go into the trash. If Milwaukee starts putting the multi-volt charger into the M12 tool kits they would be helping save the environment. They would open the door to M18 tools when selling M12 tools.
I agree and now that you bring it to my attention I'm going to go home and get the 5 I have laying around and through them away, they haven't been touched Since the day I open box. I'm with you brotha.. WE WANT MULTI CHARGERS!!! WHEN DO WE WANT THEM...NOW!
KB BUILDERS - that’s all I can do. I can’t even give the M12 battery chargers away. I’ve sold spare batteries and offered them a free m12 charger and they don’t want it .. it takes up as much room as a multi volt charger and they don’t see a need for the M12 sólo charger. So they clutters or go in the trash.
Yes it should be included. Many people are using both m12 and m18 tools on the same job. Having the chargers combined saves space and equipment to carry. However on chargers I do not carry individual chargers on the job, I have the multi fast charger that charges 3 batteries at once and it covers m12 and m18 anyway. It has a top handle and I modified it so the cord is detachable if it gets damaged. Some tools only come in m12 others come in both, others come in only m18.
What really sold me on this one was the handle being set to the back of the tool with the wider angle like drywall guns. Little more ergonomic and helps keep the screw straight
Looks like a winner for installing mini-blinds, fixing cabinet drawers and getting into tight spaces. I have been using the 12v screwdriver for small spaces. The installation driver adds offset flexibility to the mix. Great video thank's Vince. : )
I just bought one. This product is awesome. May not be used all the time. But when the situation hits say a tight corner the offset becomes a life saver.
The direction switch got me at first. But if you hold it up higher on the gun with your thumb on the left of the body and your index finger to the right. Then pull the trigger with your middle finger. The direction switch makes a lot more sense and is super easy to just move your thumb to adjust. I find holding it this way gives you more control for fine work. I’m guessing that’s how it was designed?
Same here. I would like a multi-volt charger. I would just toss the 12 charger. Useless. Also, for people new to the Milwaukee line, the inclusion of a multi-charger (might) insentivise them into an 18 volt tool if they have a multi-volt charger. OWG Old White Guy
I got my first combo drill set with Milwaukee I don’t think I’m ever gonna find another 12 v set the same as this one I’m digging these reviews because they introduce the best content no doubt
I agree running a ridgid 18 volt platform and the Milwaukee m12 platform is great but if they offered a multi volt charger for the m12 id own the m18 tools instead
I'm an electrician with 23 yrs exp. I've seen other electricians with this drill, and I wouldn't buy it for myself. I only use m12 tools, so there's no need for me to have the dual charger. Milwaukee should make ALL their m12 tools FUEL.
I bought this over a year ago, I'm a plumber and I've loved every second of the drill, almost havnt touched my 18 volt impact and hammer drill, I'm from Australia and this drill still hasn't come out! I'm so glad I got it from America lol
Yes I think it’s a great idea to include the double charger 12/18, it’ll be something like the entry level for a new guy, next time he buys a new tool he’ll be thinking that already have an 18v charger, and that my friend promotes sales and brand loyalty 👍🏼
This is an excellent tool for a plumber or residential electrical repair man who doesn't want to carry a bunch of tools in to a spot and doesn't need anything big and powerful.
There is a magnet for bit retention in the base tool. So I don't believe you "need" to use the hex adaptor unless you want the additional retention that the lock ring provides. I use mine without a head on it, and it holds the bits just fine. Same goes for the right angle adaptor, it has a magnet for bit retention.
I install office cubicles, so we do the whole set up. Walls, desk tops, shelves, computer systems, networking, the whole nine yards. And I’m gonna tell you this drill has been my best investment. I bought the m18 fuel hammer drill and impact combo a year ago and just recently picked this drill up. Having that offset angle makes it soooooooo much easier to install the shelves and the 90 makes it a whole lot easier to work over your head!
It encourages people to get on their 18-volt platform, if they're looking for something that requires that much power, and it's just an extra nice feature to have so that you don't go somewhere needing to charge an 18 volt battery when you only brought the 12 volt charge
I really like the gun style feel of this drill. Its different and feels more stable when holding. It be great if this was a hammerdrill option.....that would have been truly amazing
You said at the end of the video if u are impressed.... You know what I bought the very next day that u posted the video one of that I call it Milwaukee miracle... And of of the guy that I work with said.. Boss that is my new tool... And before we or I can try it.. I just bought another one... Two years later.. We still love that Milwaukee miracle and all that electronic system... U just don't know it not a mechanical one..and now I wait for series two... New generation
This tool is a triple-take kind of thing. At first glance, it seems genius. It’s one driver that’s a drill, driver, right angle, and an offset which those of us that use tools know how handy that is. Then when you’re standing there thinking about buying it, you question yourself and realize you’d be better served by getting a drill, an impact, and the stuff you need because these Swiss-army tools never do anything as good as their traditional, conventional counterpart, and then it seems kind of silly. But then you are in a place where you don’t need the “best” tool, you need “a” tool, and you don’t have much space so that’s a premium. Then this thing makes sense again. This is the perfect apartment/home tool because it’s effectively half a shelf’s worth of drills/drivers/accoutrements all in a bag. You can toss it in a backpack or keep it in the car and it’s out of the way everywhere. It’s not the best version of any of the things it does, but the best tool is the one you have right then.
Got one for $140 on clearance at HD... full kit with the two batteries, it appeared to never even be opened. Not exactly a lucky guy but I felt like it that day and I love this tool and it’s case!! Take out the charger and plenty of room for all your bits! (HVAC Tech)
Of course, I got one - and probably didn't need it. I really don't know what else you would want for a drill/driver set. Everything is in the bag. Every attachment/adapter, whatever, is here. My favorite M12 tool, by far. Use it constantly. Just replaced boards on my deck with heavy deck screws that I drilled out first, and the tool went on forever with an M12 6.0 battery. I always come to your channel before I get a new Milwaukee toy. Thanks, Vince - as always.
Another positive for the flexiclick is not needing to remove and reposition the attachments to change the locking angle. It gets locked on, and then you can pull on it to reposition the direction. Would love if you could compare this to the new Bosch 12v brushless flexiclick. It's not "technically" available in the US, but you can order it from Germany.
This kit ROCKS! It has virtually replaced my Makita drill/driver combo kit (which I really do love and have used hard for close to 10 years). I still carry do carry both kits with me cuz sometimes it’s nice to not have to change bits or attachments. The Milwaukee kit is just super light weight and versatile. It has enough guts to run 3” deck screws, not all day like my makita, but it’s a great little tool. Oh, and the case is big enough to carry extra bits and a multi bit screwdriver all in one nice, compact kit. I’m pretty much a makita guy, but Milwaukee knocked this out of the park, except for the reverse switch being on top, but it’s not that bad. Thx VCG. AWESOME CHANNEL.... Scott, Curtis Custom Carpentry
I use the bag minus the charger. Throw in the bit case with miscellaneous drill bits. Install blinds and almost 95% of all situations this got me covered. 1 battery last a week of installation.
I have the Installation drill, the M12 Fuel 1/2" drill, the 3/8" (non-Fuel) drill and the M12 Fuel impact driver. IMHO, the Installation drill is not quite as powerful as either the Fuel 1/2" drill or the Fuel impact driver. Not far off, but is is slightly noticeable. For the homeowner that does occasional work, the Installation drill should suffice so long as you don't need a chuck that goes over 3/8". The Installation drill basically does it all and is very nice to use. There are some downsides to only having one tool though. If you had two, you can keep a drill bit in one and a driving bit in the other and not have to switch back and forth is probably the biggest reason, but most homeowners aren't going to often see this be an issue. If you're not a tool connoisseur, the Installation drill is probably great for most homeowners that don't use these tools a lot, and that offset piece is going to be jandy for some things around a house that a regular drill just can't do. If you do a fair amount of projects, you might want to start out with the drill/driver combo, and then maybe add ther installation drill if you see the angle and offset capabilities being something you find useful. As for the electronic reversing / lockout switch, sometimes you just want to twist a fastener in that last bit by hand, and the lockout lets you use the tool to do that (the drill does that too).
There were multiple times this week where I thought this tool would come in handy. Will be picking one up sometime soon for sure! Thanks for the video!
I work on boats and have used Milwaukee cordless tools since the 90s. The first thing I did was modify a hard case to fit this multi-tool. I really like it!
I think the mechanical reverse is deal breaker for me. I use my impact driver primarily one handed so having to look for and press a control pad on top of the tool is no good. Great video Vince! Very thorough
@@csantana9 Yeah, exactly. It's not meant to be an Impact driver. That much is obvious, had he read anything about it. Also, once you get used to the location of the reverse/forward buttons, which looks pretty simple, you could still use it one handed.
OMG Vince I feel the same way. I've been looking for a way to break into the M18 line and if I was given a multi charger with my M12 combo I would have already been an M18 user with the "buy this tool get a free battery" deals.
Same. I own almost a dozen different M12 tools and have a ton of 2401 M12 chargers that come with all of them...trying to sell the extras for a few bucks. If I had a multi charger I'd own M18 stuff too. My DeWalt stuff is 12/20 charger and that's why I have a few of each of those.
Bosch has had this for years and it’s a great tool. And yes Milwaukee should have the dual charger. More people would be able to cross shop m12 and m18.
Sad I am a year late, but I finally found a good use for this... no I wouldn’t use the bag it comes with. But I would get a small black top pack out, so I can keep the drill in there with the accessories in the smaller compartments. Basically making a small m12 handy man kit. Setting it up with also the m12 multi tools + a couple extra tools for light duty work. So instead of taking all my pack out all I have to do is grab my m12 pack out kit an it has everything I would need to do the bare minimum throughout a day of everything.
I know personally that having a multi-volt charger on the job means that no matter what size battery youre running you wont have to setup an additional charger. We all know that some job sites have a limited amount of receptacles to plug in to.
this drill/drive is a great tool when putting together some furniturer. my sister and brother in law are expecting their second kid and ive been using this tool to put together everything they got, crib, bed, nooks, and dressers.
May be a bit too late. but can you test how sensetive the clutch is on smallest fasteners ? like for installing kitchen cabinets and other furniture you need some precice work.
I want you to test fast left-right-left-.. switching with drilling in-between. Sometimes my drill bit gets stuck in a wall. My strategy is: drill left around and pull to get it unstuck, turn drilling direction to right/try again (gets sometimes stuck again), rinse and repeat ... Thanks! I use a 12V Metabo battery drill and it is easy to do the left right left ... switching WITH ONE HAND! With my other hand I hold e.g. a vac hose.
Hi Vince great video and good ideas!! Can we get a comparison, impact driver and drill. How good can the installation drill drive self drilling screws? Can you control forward and backward with only using one hand?, thanks a lot!!
So... First i wanna start off by saying I appreciate the videos you make. I usially watch them when i am looking for new milwaukee tools.... You should use torx screws in your demonstrations.... They are way better and the bit doesnt jump of the screw. Just a though. I agree they should give you the multi volt charger for sure.
@@Mizzle420420 yeah i wore the hell outta that shirt as well when i got it. hope yours is still in useable condition as i had to throw mine in the rag pile
i put my driver in the hardcase 48-22-8425. and i'm currently use that bag as a lunch bag and drinks carrying bag to help bring by food and drink from the lunch truck.
From a marketing standpoint it would make more sense to sell the multi volt battery charger and it may convince people to buy more expensive tools. I personally throw the 12v chargers in the storage cabinet. Thanks for the great video
It would be great for cabinets. Especially 9” narrow cabinets so you can easily screw the face to the next inline cabinet. I know this is older video, but I’ve been switching over battery tools from DeWalt. I will never trade my DeWalt dws780 miter box or table saw to any other brand, but I’m digging everything Milwaukee is doing with battery tools
I actually just got done installing a set of cabinets and needed a right angle drive. Picked this up today. I know it's not a main or daily driver but I have nothing else that can fit in the spaces it can.
I use power tools, mainly a drill, to tune marching drums. The m12 not only helps with balance that reduced fatigue from m18 for me, but the right angle adapter on this seems very tempting so i dont have to keep holding my wrist up for the flat heads on snare & tenor drums. The regular chuck is no problem on vertical drums such as bass drums, but this seems to be super helpful
I love the bag. I leave the charger out and put a small assorted screw pack, extra battery and bit sets. Soft bag means i can cram it in spaces a hard side wont flex to fit. For what it is a small compact flexible workhorse of a tool the case fits...
Home Depot just had a sale on this with a 5.0 high output battery, 2 2.0's and th charger/bag all for $179! I had to buy it. I am going to keep the bag and rearrange it to put something else in where the charger usually goes.. maybe a drill bit box?
All looks good except there is no impact option , it's a just a drill with 4 attachments , wish there was a an option to gear into impact gun , other than that I am still buying it
@@imacrazyguy5831 you know what's interesting.....back in 2006 through 2014 the impact wasn't popular, the drill was. I use to buy DeWalt back in the day, I use to buy the combo hammer drill/impact because it was the better deal. I never used the impact back then. The drill did the trick especially in low gear like 1....I could drive lag bolts 3" long 5/16" dia with ease. I use to work for all of the cable providers and I went through some hammer drills....at one point I had 3 DeWalt combo sets with 3 impacts still brand new in the carrying bag. Needless to say I switched to the impact in late 2014. I don't know why something just told me to start using it and I haven't looked back. Impacts are super popular nowadays but I will say this, a drill in low a torque setting is way more powerful that a 1/4" impact bar none.
@Jason Babila I carry the Bosch PS22 because of the huge weight difference of over half a pound between the Flexi click with the quarter inch hex and that tool. The advantage of this installation driver is that it weighs 2 pounds with a battery, and the M12 fuel 2402 screwdriver weighs 2 pounds without a battery. I would think that if you had the installation driver and the surge and a few batteries you be straight. I carry my three tools with two additional batteries and a menagerie of bits and no charger. My volt charger is in my Sortimo/Bosch 3D Boxx next to my 18v OMT. If it’s a long call or job.
I will keep this particular tool on the bag ot comes in. I pretty much do that with ALL new tools I buy because I already have everything I use day in and day out in my tech bag. Since I'll only need this bad boy every so often, there is no need to add it to an already semi heavy bag. I'll just grab it as I need it.
I have a pile of “only“ M12 chargers, they are all brand new as I don’t use them. Most of us use both platforms therefore we need a charger to charge both batteries. No brainer.
Richard : Want to make a deal?l i could use a couple of extra's ? , him me up on facebook John Wallace Spokane youll see 4 Aces Construction in the upper left of my page .
I’ve been looking everywhere for a decent screwdriver for work because I don’t always need my massive Makita in my bag. I couldn’t find the regular m12 fuel screwdriver anywhere. Now I see why. This thing is nuts and I’m getting one. Who said Makita and Milwaukee couldn’t live together?
The forward reverse selector seems dumb and looks like a pain in the ass to operate, everything else seems like a win. I use the regular m12 screwdriver heavily every day, this seems like it could be a good replacement and the right angle attachment could have come in handy too many times to count. You're spot on about the dual charger, I expanded from the m18 into some m12 tools in part because I already had the dual voltage chargers that came with my m18 kits. I would definitely like to see some comparisons to other tools, I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a jack of all trades multi tool or if its a solution in search of a problem.
Selector location is idiotic. The multiple heads are very handy for "installers". Lotsof times a fastener needs to be put close to an inside corner or a bolt undone in a narrow space. Or leveling mechanism adjusted next to an edge. The offset and right angle heads are perfect for these situations without having to carry multiple tools. In a shop setting its value is diminished.
I have been using mine every day for around 1 and a half to 2 years, and have abused the hell out of it with up to 1&5/8" hole saws into stainless electrical panels, and the driver is every bit as good as the day I bought it. The only thing that is showing some wear is the drill chuck from some pretty ridiculous abuse. This thing isn't the most powerful tool in the world, but as a controls tech/Industrial electrician, this is by far my favorite tool I have ever bought. The only cordless tool with a pocket clip that I can stand climbing a ladder with.
I think they do already. I've been told that milwaukees parent TTi makes a lot of Bosch's 12v lineup already. Every noticed the similarity between the same tools of both brands? Even the battery is more than a kissin cousin.
yeah multi volt chargers need to come with m12 tools. I have a box tucked away with m12 chargers because I just don't need them... Idk how I feel about not being able to go from forward to reverse one handed in the air..
Because we all own M18 tools, too, or it will encourage those that only have M12 tools to look at and purchase those in the M18 line as well. Right, Vince! I cannot WAIT to get this, and the 1/4” and 3/8” extended-reach Fuel ratchets!
Do I really need one of these? Nope.. am I gonna get one? Yup...
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It is in my must-have list
hardly use my tools already since its just for stuff around the house, but i have to have this lol
Same thing I said when I bought it today and my wife asked do you really need that I SAID NOPE BUT I’M STILL GOING TO GET IT LOL
@@VCGConstruction Well i must be a fool ,cuz i bought this last night ' its light ,compact and for kitchen and baths , i see the use , plus i need the write off win -win .
10:25 this is why I love this channel out of all the videos I’ve seen on this tool you’re the only one that demonstrates this feature. Today my team had to drill a hole through a metal beam that rested inside of a wall to fish wire. The angle was so weird and we had such limited space. No ones drill could fit through the hole so took this out my bag and transformed it with the right angle and chuck attachments and blew their minds. This was my first tool ever I highly recommend
For those that compare this to the Festool; I don’t own any Festool tools, but I own a bunch of M12 and M18 tools. This allows me to use my existing batteries and fits into my existing system perfectly. Also, this unit is more flexible.
Great job, Milwaukee, for recognizing a great tool design - and improving on it.
I've had mine for about a year and use it all the time, but I combined it with the hydraulic impact driver in one bag, and all my bits in another bag. This is the best I've used for camper woodworking (38 years).
Tight space access is great.
I bought this knowing I'd be solving a lot of issues other attempted designs did not quite solve... this did not disappoint.
Milwaukee should include their multi volt charger so that when you buy a 12 volt system, all you need is a bare 18v tool with a free battery promotional and you're ready to rock and roll.
I have M12 and 20V Max and Flexvolt so it wouldn't do me any good ;-) But I understand your desire. Understand their price point competitiveness and wastage factors and that the multivolt charger is more expensive to produce.
Im a deck builder Vince , im going to tell you , this is a game changer when it comes to building Rails , the first time a saw it i have been waiting for it to come out, and the main reason is the offset drive! I saw you could not think of a situation when to use it , but when we are building composite rails , so meny times the body or your impact or drill wont allow you to align the tool to drive straight or even worse , a chuck would hit a spindle or top rail leaving a mark , this tool is a problem solver 👍🏻
Nice Ozo!!
@@Zozo806 because bosch is mediocre at best these days and switching platforms from Milwaukee would be an overall bad decision
I just bought one (my first cordless tool ever actually) and I love it! My favorite thing about it is the ability to swap quickly between driving and drilling. It makes a two tool job a one tool job. My home workshop is tiny so having something so compact is great.
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All big name companies make this tool I seen a dewalt, bosch, ryob, and makita but I use my impact driver for everything I got specially bits for multi material drilling.
Milwaukee should include the multi-volt because majority of their customers rock both platforms
So true & new customers would step up to M18 quicker with a multi-volt charger included with M12 tools.
I went from m18 to m12 because I already had the multivolt charger. I bought a bare tool which came with a free battery. Next thing I knew I was hooked on m12 and now own a dozen or so m12 tools. (Some of which I bought as kits and now have several unused 12v chargers) unused = useless. No one likes paying for useless stuff.
Paul Auten and even if they don’t it opens them up to the opportunity 👍🏽
I have only been buying M12 tools. I have a pair of 4.0 mAh batteries, a 2.0 mAh, and a ton of 1.5's to go with my assortment of tools...inflator, ratchet, hammer drill, hackzall, impact driver, light, cutoff saw, circular saw, and more. I have a ton of M12 2401 chargers. I wish they'd start including the multi because it would give me a reason to buy into the M18 line. There are tools in the line I would like.
Then I'd get rid of my 12/20V DeWalt stuff in favor of Milwaukee everything.
I feel like everyone has extra m12 (only) chargers... including me
I work in a cabinet shop, and this is my main driver for both fabrication and installation. Love it. The offset head and 90 degree can be real on-site life savers when other dudes don't have the capabilities!
Only thing I hate is the electronic switch on top!
I am just weekend DIYer who loves tools and who has recently caught the Milwaukee bug. Since I started my Milwaukee collection, I have been slowly adding tools. I finally got around to buying this one. OMFG....best tool I ever owned! If you only own one cordless tool, it has to be this one. The uses for it are endless. Also, I am a big guy, this fits my hand perfectly and does not feel too small or under-powered. But it is also small enough and light enough for my wife to use without being cumbersome. Milwaukee hit it out of the park with this one and so did your video Vince!
I've just gotten one of these things and the greatest thing about it is, I can hold it and watch re-runs of Space 1999.
Can’t wait for this. Getting it day 1. As an electrician, this tool with that offset head is a dream come true for assembling and hanging ceiling fans. Will pay for itself the first day.
Awesome!
M12 chargers only feed the wastelands because they pretty much all go into the trash. If Milwaukee starts putting the multi-volt charger into the M12 tool kits they would be helping save the environment.
They would open the door to M18 tools when selling M12 tools.
I agree and now that you bring it to my attention I'm going to go home and get the 5 I have laying around and through them away, they haven't been touched Since the day I open box. I'm with you brotha..
WE WANT MULTI CHARGERS!!! WHEN DO WE WANT THEM...NOW!
KB BUILDERS - that’s all I can do. I can’t even give the M12 battery chargers away. I’ve sold spare batteries and offered them a free m12 charger and they don’t want it .. it takes up as much room as a multi volt charger and they don’t see a need for the M12 sólo charger. So they clutters or go in the trash.
@@r0me063 Ill take youre spares hit me up on facebook John Wallace Spokane
I agree, they do go to the recycling bin. I think I have thrown like 10.
@@kbguy9654 RRRRrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Yes.
All my M12 chargers go in the garbhage! we got a charging station that uses 3 m18 and 3 m12 and it charges the M12 it 15 minutes LOVE IT!
Yes it should be included. Many people are using both m12 and m18 tools on the same job. Having the chargers combined saves space and equipment to carry. However on chargers I do not carry individual chargers on the job, I have the multi fast charger that charges 3 batteries at once and it covers m12 and m18 anyway. It has a top handle and I modified it so the cord is detachable if it gets damaged. Some tools only come in m12 others come in both, others come in only m18.
What really sold me on this one was the handle being set to the back of the tool with the wider angle like drywall guns. Little more ergonomic and helps keep the screw straight
Looks like a winner for installing mini-blinds, fixing cabinet drawers and getting into tight spaces. I have been using the 12v screwdriver for small spaces. The installation driver adds offset flexibility to the mix. Great video thank's Vince. : )
Yes, as a custom cabinet maker, I am very excited to try this
I just bought one. This product is awesome. May not be used all the time. But when the situation hits say a tight corner the offset becomes a life saver.
The direction switch got me at first. But if you hold it up higher on the gun with your thumb on the left of the body and your index finger to the right. Then pull the trigger with your middle finger. The direction switch makes a lot more sense and is super easy to just move your thumb to adjust. I find holding it this way gives you more control for fine work. I’m guessing that’s how it was designed?
Yeah. Still don’t know how I feel, but that’s a good point.
I have one of these sets and it's been a godsend for what I do for work in the construction field.
I’d definitely get more higher volt tools if they did send the multi volt charger for sure the quality is insane with these tools
Yeah. Even if it would make tool like 5-10€ more expensive.
Same here. I would like a multi-volt charger. I would just toss the 12 charger. Useless. Also, for people new to the Milwaukee line, the inclusion of a multi-charger (might) insentivise them into an 18 volt tool if they have a multi-volt charger. OWG Old White Guy
I got my first combo drill set with Milwaukee I don’t think I’m ever gonna find another 12 v set the same as this one I’m digging these reviews because they introduce the best content no doubt
I agree running a ridgid 18 volt platform and the Milwaukee m12 platform is great but if they offered a multi volt charger for the m12 id own the m18 tools instead
@@generaltbone17 they do. Buy an m18 tool kit and the charger has a m12 port
I'm an electrician with 23 yrs exp. I've seen other electricians with this drill, and I wouldn't buy it for myself. I only use m12 tools, so there's no need for me to have the dual charger. Milwaukee should make ALL their m12 tools FUEL.
"Try everything once" part was hilarious. Lol
I bought this over a year ago, I'm a plumber and I've loved every second of the drill, almost havnt touched my 18 volt impact and hammer drill, I'm from Australia and this drill still hasn't come out! I'm so glad I got it from America lol
Yes I think it’s a great idea to include the double charger 12/18, it’ll be something like the entry level for a new guy, next time he buys a new tool he’ll be thinking that already have an 18v charger, and that my friend promotes sales and brand loyalty 👍🏼
This is an excellent tool for a plumber or residential electrical repair man who doesn't want to carry a bunch of tools in to a spot and doesn't need anything big and powerful.
There is a magnet for bit retention in the base tool. So I don't believe you "need" to use the hex adaptor unless you want the additional retention that the lock ring provides. I use mine without a head on it, and it holds the bits just fine. Same goes for the right angle adaptor, it has a magnet for bit retention.
I install office cubicles, so we do the whole set up. Walls, desk tops, shelves, computer systems, networking, the whole nine yards. And I’m gonna tell you this drill has been my best investment. I bought the m18 fuel hammer drill and impact combo a year ago and just recently picked this drill up. Having that offset angle makes it soooooooo much easier to install the shelves and the 90 makes it a whole lot easier to work over your head!
It encourages people to get on their 18-volt platform, if they're looking for something that requires that much power, and it's just an extra nice feature to have so that you don't go somewhere needing to charge an 18 volt battery when you only brought the 12 volt charge
I have it....and its definitely lightweight and heavy duty feel....very worth it.....you can feel the craftsmanship
I really like the gun style feel of this drill. Its different and feels more stable when holding. It be great if this was a hammerdrill option.....that would have been truly amazing
The European and Australian version has that. It also doesn't have the handguard too and its more compact.
@@michaellim4165 not a powerhouse of a tool and especially with M12. I wouldn't use it has an hammer drill tbh.
You said at the end of the video if u are impressed.... You know what I bought the very next day that u posted the video one of that I call it Milwaukee miracle... And of of the guy that I work with said.. Boss that is my new tool... And before we or I can try it.. I just bought another one... Two years later.. We still love that Milwaukee miracle and all that electronic system... U just don't know it not a mechanical one..and now I wait for series two... New generation
This tool is a triple-take kind of thing. At first glance, it seems genius. It’s one driver that’s a drill, driver, right angle, and an offset which those of us that use tools know how handy that is. Then when you’re standing there thinking about buying it, you question yourself and realize you’d be better served by getting a drill, an impact, and the stuff you need because these Swiss-army tools never do anything as good as their traditional, conventional counterpart, and then it seems kind of silly. But then you are in a place where you don’t need the “best” tool, you need “a” tool, and you don’t have much space so that’s a premium. Then this thing makes sense again. This is the perfect apartment/home tool because it’s effectively half a shelf’s worth of drills/drivers/accoutrements all in a bag. You can toss it in a backpack or keep it in the car and it’s out of the way everywhere.
It’s not the best version of any of the things it does, but the best tool is the one you have right then.
This may replace all the ryobi stuff I have sitting at home from when I was broke
Got one for $140 on clearance at HD... full kit with the two batteries, it appeared to never even be opened. Not exactly a lucky guy but I felt like it that day and I love this tool and it’s case!! Take out the charger and plenty of room for all your bits! (HVAC Tech)
Milwaukee out here making tools that look like a gun out of Borderlands
🤣🤣
Of course, I got one - and probably didn't need it. I really don't know what else you would want for a drill/driver set. Everything is in the bag. Every attachment/adapter, whatever, is here. My favorite M12 tool, by far. Use it constantly. Just replaced boards on my deck with heavy deck screws that I drilled out first, and the tool went on forever with an M12 6.0 battery. I always come to your channel before I get a new Milwaukee toy. Thanks, Vince - as always.
Another positive for the flexiclick is not needing to remove and reposition the attachments to change the locking angle. It gets locked on, and then you can pull on it to reposition the direction. Would love if you could compare this to the new Bosch 12v brushless flexiclick. It's not "technically" available in the US, but you can order it from Germany.
This kit ROCKS! It has virtually replaced my Makita drill/driver combo kit (which I really do love and have used hard for close to 10 years). I still carry do carry both kits with me cuz sometimes it’s nice to not have to change bits or attachments. The Milwaukee kit is just super light weight and versatile. It has enough guts to run 3” deck screws, not all day like my makita, but it’s a great little tool. Oh, and the case is big enough to carry extra bits and a multi bit screwdriver all in one nice, compact kit. I’m pretty much a makita guy, but Milwaukee knocked this out of the park, except for the reverse switch being on top, but it’s not that bad. Thx VCG. AWESOME CHANNEL.... Scott, Curtis Custom Carpentry
Nice to see a magnetic plate on a Milwaukee. Much like it's cousin, Ryobi. Thanks guys and God bless!😁
I use the bag minus the charger. Throw in the bit case with miscellaneous drill bits. Install blinds and almost 95% of all situations this got me covered. 1 battery last a week of installation.
Yes please do a comparison with an M12 drill and impact. Would this be a better option for a homeowner vs the M12 drill and impact combo?
I have the Installation drill, the M12 Fuel 1/2" drill, the 3/8" (non-Fuel) drill and the M12 Fuel impact driver. IMHO, the Installation drill is not quite as powerful as either the Fuel 1/2" drill or the Fuel impact driver. Not far off, but is is slightly noticeable. For the homeowner that does occasional work, the Installation drill should suffice so long as you don't need a chuck that goes over 3/8". The Installation drill basically does it all and is very nice to use.
There are some downsides to only having one tool though. If you had two, you can keep a drill bit in one and a driving bit in the other and not have to switch back and forth is probably the biggest reason, but most homeowners aren't going to often see this be an issue.
If you're not a tool connoisseur, the Installation drill is probably great for most homeowners that don't use these tools a lot, and that offset piece is going to be jandy for some things around a house that a regular drill just can't do. If you do a fair amount of projects, you might want to start out with the drill/driver combo, and then maybe add ther installation drill if you see the angle and offset capabilities being something you find useful.
As for the electronic reversing / lockout switch, sometimes you just want to twist a fastener in that last bit by hand, and the lockout lets you use the tool to do that (the drill does that too).
I bought mine, & it became a favorite, very quickly! Keep it in the top drawer, with the accessories!
There were multiple times this week where I thought this tool would come in handy. Will be picking one up sometime soon for sure! Thanks for the video!
I’m so glad I bought this. It’s my
Favorite drill from Milwaukee and I use it all day every day.
@@Painfulwhale360 dam 2 years later
@@masternobody3567 damn right, man
I work on boats and have used Milwaukee cordless tools since the 90s. The first thing I did was modify a hard case to fit this multi-tool. I really like it!
I think the mechanical reverse is deal breaker for me. I use my impact driver primarily one handed so having to look for and press a control pad on top of the tool is no good. Great video Vince! Very thorough
It's meant for jobs Ike furniture making or electrical. Maybe you don't want to bring four separate drills, just bring this one.
@@csantana9 Yeah, exactly. It's not meant to be an Impact driver. That much is obvious, had he read anything about it. Also, once you get used to the location of the reverse/forward buttons, which looks pretty simple, you could still use it one handed.
Ok boomer
It’s annoying that it’s not tactile. You have to actually look at it. It’s also in a weird spot that’s not intuitive.
It's supposed to be held like a drywall gun. Duh.
@vcgconstruction I work commercial and all the cabinet guys had these and I fell in love with it
That off-set attachment would be great for getting around doorknobs when repairing or installing locksets.
Great review.
Nice call
Second that. Good call dude. I’m doing locksets tomorrow
I just picked one up myself and I love it. This is a good unit and right now they are giving away a 6.0 battery with it.
OMG Vince I feel the same way. I've been looking for a way to break into the M18 line and if I was given a multi charger with my M12 combo I would have already been an M18 user with the "buy this tool get a free battery" deals.
That’s what’s up D Shizz!!
Same. I own almost a dozen different M12 tools and have a ton of 2401 M12 chargers that come with all of them...trying to sell the extras for a few bucks. If I had a multi charger I'd own M18 stuff too. My DeWalt stuff is 12/20 charger and that's why I have a few of each of those.
Bosch has had this for years and it’s a great tool. And yes Milwaukee should have the dual charger. More people would be able to cross shop m12 and m18.
Please test hole saw and Self-tapping screw on metal between this drill impact and drilling gun. Thank you
Seems good for cabinets, under sinks, assembly work ceiling fans, a/c units ect...
Looking forward to seeing one in person can't wait for it to hit my Home Depot.
Sad I am a year late, but I finally found a good use for this... no I wouldn’t use the bag it comes with.
But I would get a small black top pack out, so I can keep the drill in there with the accessories in the smaller compartments.
Basically making a small m12 handy man kit. Setting it up with also the m12 multi tools + a couple extra tools for light duty work.
So instead of taking all my pack out all I have to do is grab my m12 pack out kit an it has everything I would need to do the bare minimum throughout a day of everything.
I know personally that having a multi-volt charger on the job means that no matter what size battery youre running you wont have to setup an additional charger. We all know that some job sites have a limited amount of receptacles to plug in to.
this drill/drive is a great tool when putting together some furniturer. my sister and brother in law are expecting their second kid and ive been using this tool to put together everything they got, crib, bed, nooks, and dressers.
Finally a video about this tool. Been looking forward for this
May be a bit too late. but can you test how sensetive the clutch is on smallest fasteners ? like for installing kitchen cabinets and other furniture you need some precice work.
YES compare to 1/4" m12 fuel impact
I want you to test fast left-right-left-.. switching with drilling in-between.
Sometimes my drill bit gets stuck in a wall.
My strategy is: drill left around and pull to get it unstuck, turn drilling direction to right/try again (gets sometimes stuck again), rinse and repeat ... Thanks!
I use a 12V Metabo battery drill and it is easy to do the left right left ... switching WITH ONE HAND!
With my other hand I hold e.g. a vac hose.
Hi Vince great video and good ideas!!
Can we get a comparison, impact driver and drill.
How good can the installation drill drive self drilling screws?
Can you control
forward and backward with only using one hand?, thanks a lot!!
Finally got one , now my Bosch FlexiClic will be retired , and will reside on my work bench !
This is pretty cool. I feel like this would be a great DIY, fix the house tool
this really is an awesome tool vince. 90% of people will never need the full sized tools.
99% of people don’t need 18volt tools
“👀Ok, maybe not everything once”. 😂 hahaha that was gold
Hanging shelves and cabinets is what I've found it to be most useful for. Very handy tool.
All of my m12 chargers are sitting in my cabinets unused. I agree, multi charger should be included instead of the m12 charger.
If you're handy, I bet you could turn it into a dc converter
So... First i wanna start off by saying I appreciate the videos you make. I usially watch them when i am looking for new milwaukee tools.... You should use torx screws in your demonstrations.... They are way better and the bit doesnt jump of the screw. Just a though.
I agree they should give you the multi volt charger for sure.
Thanks Andrew, we appreciate the feedback!
I've actually won a shirt from the Milwaukee thing...Not a bad deal for just sending some info in
Awesome Nalu!!
I won one recently too! Love that shirt, it’s badass
Yeah me too lol. Came in unexpectedly and pretty decent quality too.
@@Mizzle420420 yeah i wore the hell outta that shirt as well when i got it. hope yours is still in useable condition as i had to throw mine in the rag pile
Multi-charger makes much more convenient if you let's say, bought a bare m18 tool with no m18 charger. There answered! 😎👍
Agreed
i put my driver in the hardcase 48-22-8425. and i'm currently use that bag as a lunch bag and drinks carrying bag to help bring by food and drink from the lunch truck.
yes this vs the flexiclick please ! That would be very helpful.
Great video amazing how fast two years came and went
Try it against the boche and the festool installation driver on a head-to-head test great video by the way as always
From a marketing standpoint it would make more sense to sell the multi volt battery charger and it may convince people to buy more expensive tools. I personally throw the 12v chargers in the storage cabinet. Thanks for the great video
Absolutely agree
I know a couple of people who won Milwaukee shirts from those registration cards. I’ve never won but it seems to work for other people.
I wish in came in a hard case, with the adjustable dividers inside.. perfect.
It would be great for cabinets. Especially 9” narrow cabinets so you can easily screw the face to the next inline cabinet. I know this is older video, but I’ve been switching over battery tools from DeWalt. I will never trade my DeWalt dws780 miter box or table saw to any other brand, but I’m digging everything Milwaukee is doing with battery tools
Same on the miter and table 🤙
I actually just got done installing a set of cabinets and needed a right angle drive. Picked this up today. I know it's not a main or daily driver but I have nothing else that can fit in the spaces it can.
That’s crazy, I too own the DWS780 and Dewault table saw but literally everything else I own is Milwaukee 🤣
I use power tools, mainly a drill, to tune marching drums. The m12 not only helps with balance that reduced fatigue from m18 for me, but the right angle adapter on this seems very tempting so i dont have to keep holding my wrist up for the flat heads on snare & tenor drums. The regular chuck is no problem on vertical drums such as bass drums, but this seems to be super helpful
I was hoping the 1/4 inch was gonna actually impact. Great video Vince! like being able to see what the tools about before I decide to buy.
I just got one of these and it is going in a pack out box. I would destroy the bag in no time.
Awesome video Vince, l love your enthusiasm. Thanks for the info too.
I love the bag. I leave the charger out and put a small assorted screw pack, extra battery and bit sets. Soft bag means i can cram it in spaces a hard side wont flex to fit. For what it is a small compact flexible workhorse of a tool the case fits...
The switch location is kind of a bummer. I'll still get one. Just a little dissapointed.
Home Depot just had a sale on this with a 5.0 high output battery, 2 2.0's and th charger/bag all for $179! I had to buy it. I am going to keep the bag and rearrange it to put something else in where the charger usually goes.. maybe a drill bit box?
All looks good except there is no impact option , it's a just a drill with 4 attachments , wish there was a an option to gear into impact gun , other than that I am still buying it
Big difference between a drill and an impact. You can't turn a drill into an impact, mechanism is 100% different.
@@imacrazyguy5831 you know what's interesting.....back in 2006 through 2014 the impact wasn't popular, the drill was. I use to buy DeWalt back in the day, I use to buy the combo hammer drill/impact because it was the better deal. I never used the impact back then. The drill did the trick especially in low gear like 1....I could drive lag bolts 3" long 5/16" dia with ease. I use to work for all of the cable providers and I went through some hammer drills....at one point I had 3 DeWalt combo sets with 3 impacts still brand new in the carrying bag. Needless to say I switched to the impact in late 2014. I don't know why something just told me to start using it and I haven't looked back. Impacts are super popular nowadays but I will say this, a drill in low a torque setting is way more powerful that a 1/4" impact bar none.
now, i have to get it... thru Cornwell !Milwaukee catalog... same price but with two. free bigger batteries .... thanks. for the. video....
That digital selector switch may be a deal killer for me.
No reason it should be on top. Needs to be mechanical
Me too, it's stoopid.
Electrical is ok, it the positioning that makes this nearly unusable.
It is THE reason I've held off buying one. I know for sure I'm going to be annoyed.
I have this kit works great
When I get one, I’m definitely customizing a PACKOUT with the Kaizen foam for it.
@Jason Babila 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My Sortimo/Bosch L-Boxx 1 has my Bosch Flexiclick, PS22 & PS42 in Kaizen foam. That and my Veto MC first thing off the van. 👍🏻
Having the installation drill driver organized in Kaizen foam, I can include a charger, and multiple bits.
@Jason Babila
I carry the Bosch PS22 because of the huge weight difference of over half a pound between the Flexi click with the quarter inch hex and that tool. The advantage of this installation driver is that it weighs 2 pounds with a battery, and the M12 fuel 2402 screwdriver weighs 2 pounds without a battery. I would think that if you had the installation driver and the surge and a few batteries you be straight. I carry my three tools with two additional batteries and a menagerie of bits and no charger. My volt charger is in my Sortimo/Bosch 3D Boxx next to my 18v OMT. If it’s a long call or job.
I’m definitely putting together a M12 kit with this, my hammer drill and surge!!
Vince, try it with a 4.0 or a 6.0 battery and feel how much heavier it would be, will it have an awkward feel?
I will keep this particular tool on the bag ot comes in. I pretty much do that with ALL new tools I buy because I already have everything I use day in and day out in my tech bag.
Since I'll only need this bad boy every so often, there is no need to add it to an already semi heavy bag. I'll just grab it as I need it.
I have a pile of “only“ M12 chargers, they are all brand new as I don’t use them. Most of us use both platforms therefore we need a charger to charge both batteries. No brainer.
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I’ve been looking everywhere for a decent screwdriver for work because I don’t always need my massive Makita in my bag. I couldn’t find the regular m12 fuel screwdriver anywhere. Now I see why. This thing is nuts and I’m getting one. Who said Makita and Milwaukee couldn’t live together?
The forward reverse selector seems dumb and looks like a pain in the ass to operate, everything else seems like a win. I use the regular m12 screwdriver heavily every day, this seems like it could be a good replacement and the right angle attachment could have come in handy too many times to count. You're spot on about the dual charger, I expanded from the m18 into some m12 tools in part because I already had the dual voltage chargers that came with my m18 kits. I would definitely like to see some comparisons to other tools, I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a jack of all trades multi tool or if its a solution in search of a problem.
Selector location is idiotic.
The multiple heads are very handy for "installers". Lotsof times a fastener needs to be put close to an inside corner or a bolt undone in a narrow space. Or leveling mechanism adjusted next to an edge. The offset and right angle heads are perfect for these situations without having to carry multiple tools.
In a shop setting its value is diminished.
I have been using mine every day for around 1 and a half to 2 years, and have abused the hell out of it with up to 1&5/8" hole saws into stainless electrical panels, and the driver is every bit as good as the day I bought it. The only thing that is showing some wear is the drill chuck from some pretty ridiculous abuse. This thing isn't the most powerful tool in the world, but as a controls tech/Industrial electrician, this is by far my favorite tool I have ever bought. The only cordless tool with a pocket clip that I can stand climbing a ladder with.
I would love to see the Milwaukee and Bosch go head to head. Bosch also do a 18volt of that tool
I think they do already. I've been told that milwaukees parent TTi makes a lot of Bosch's 12v lineup already. Every noticed the similarity between the same tools of both brands? Even the battery is more than a kissin cousin.
A multivolt charger would be great to motivate me to consider the m18 lineup
yeah multi volt chargers need to come with m12 tools. I have a box tucked away with m12 chargers because I just don't need them...
Idk how I feel about not being able to go from forward to reverse one handed in the air..
I agree tyler
Because we all own M18 tools, too, or it will encourage those that only have M12 tools to look at and purchase those in the M18 line as well.
Right, Vince! I cannot WAIT to get this, and the 1/4” and 3/8” extended-reach Fuel ratchets!
Exactly my friend
This is likely my favorite day to day tool. “Dad tool”